返程飞机上特朗普答记者：习近平问如果他打台湾美国会不会出兵，特朗普说……｜新闻特写20260515

Hello everybody.So we had a great stay.It was an amazing period of time.President Xi's an incredible guy.Got a long, made a lot of great trade deals, including over 200 planes from Boeing with a promise of 750 planes, which will be by far the largest order ever if they do a good job with the 200, which I'm sure they will.And that's General Electric, also the engines.

So they're buying General Electric.So it's approximately 400, 450 engines, 200 planes, and a promise of up to 750 if they do a good job.We had an amazing time.This is a very historic.Oh, look who we have!Hello, David.

It was a very historic couple of days, I think.

Oh, yeah, man.Sir, I know there'll be a lot of questions around the China trip, but just first on Iran: Have you rejected the latest proposal from Iran, or where does that stand?

I looked at it, and if I don't like the first sentence, I just throw it away.What was the first sentence?An unacceptable sentence.They have fully no nuclear, and if they have any nuclear of any form, I don't read the rest of it.Twenty years is not enough for you.It's got to be a.

No, 20 years is enough, but the level of guarantee from them is.In other words, it's got to be a real 20 years, not a.They mean they've got to get all the fuel out and no more production.You have to get everything, but we're not even talking about the nuclear dust.I came up with a term which seems to have gone on.We're not talking about it because they would not remove the.

And they said that they can't remove it because they don't have the technology to remove it.They don't have the type of tractors.They say the only one.They told me directly.They said the only one that can remove it is China or the U.S.We're the only ones with the equipment.

They say. say.you were right.It is a complete obliteration.With that being said, I want to get it.And they agreed to it, but then they took it back.But they'll agree to it eventually.

Did you talk about Taiwan?What did President Xi say to you about Taiwan?What did President Xi say to you about Taiwan?And are you still going to approve the the arms sale?

So President Xi and I talked a lot about Taiwan.He thinks he cannot have anything to do with what they're doing.I mean, he's against very much what they're doing.We talked about Taiwan.We talked about Iran a lot.And I think we have a very good understanding on both.

On Taiwan, he does not want to see a fight for independence because that would be a very strong confrontation.And I I heard him out.Are you going to say you're worried?No, I didn't make I didn't make a comment on it.I heard him out.I have a lot of respect for him.

On Iran, it's very interesting.He feels strongly they can't have a nuclear weapon.He said that very strongly.They cannot have a nuclear weapon, and he wants them to open up the Strait.But as he said, they closed it, and then you closed them with a smile.That's true.

We we control the Strait, and they've done no business.Literally, they've done no business in the last two and a half weeks, which is approximately five hundred million dollars a day.So we have we're doing very well on all fronts.

Before we leave Taiwan, Mr. President, President Xi said that there was a risk of conflict with the U S. Over Taiwan.What's your response to that?I don't think there's a conflict.Other than we don't need their their Strait, we don't need the arms.On Taiwan, Mr. Mr. President Xi said there was a risk of conflict with the U S.No, no, I don't think so.

I don't think so.I think we're going to be, I think we'll be fine.He doesn't want to see, he doesn't want to see a war.And you have two things.You have the Iranian situation with that.I think we agree almost entirely, other than he's a buyer and we're not.

We don't need it.And on Taiwan, he doesn't want to see a movement for independence.He says, look, you know, we've had it for thousands of years, and then at a certain period of time, it left.Then we were going to get it back.They had the Korean War.A lot of things happened.

That's all.But no, on Taiwan, he feels very strongly.I made no commitment either way.See what?What about the arms sales to Taiwan?I'll make a determination over the next fairly short period.

You're not necessarily going to go ahead.It was your proposal.Make a determination.I'm going to see.I have to speak to the person that right now is, you know, you know who he is that's running Taiwan.

Did President Xi make any firm commitment to put pressure on the Iranians to reopen the Strait of Hormuz?

I'm not asking for any favors because when you ask for favors, you have to do favors in return.We don't need favors.We've wiped out their armed forces essentially.We may have to do a little clean-up work because we had a little month-long cease-fire, I guess you'd call it, but we have a blockade that's so effective that's why we did the cease-fire.We really did the cease-fire at the request of other nations.I wouldn't have really been in favor of it, but we did it as a favor to Pakistan, terrific people, the field marshal, the prime minister.

But no, I mean President Xi and I agree on many things, and we agree very much on trade.We're going to be doing a lot of trading.Our farmers are going to be taken in. going to be taken in.I mean, our farmers are gonna be very happy with the deal we made.Do you think that he will put pressure?That he will try and get them to do more?

He's going to put pressure because, you know, I don't, I don't need favors.I think he will.I think automatically he'd like to see it opened up.He gets about forty percent of his energy or his oil from that, you know, from the trade.We get none.

We get none.We don't need it.Mr. President, I'm pro-social.You said that President Xi had made a reference to the decline of the U.S.We didn't hear him say that.

Maybe it was something he said in private to you.

So, what was it?First of all, that he said the problem.

He made a statement.It might not have been from him.It was somebody, but they talked about the decline.But he said today, and he said it very publicly.He said the U.S.was declining for the last four years.

And he said what President Trump has done in the last fifteen, sixteen months has been virtually a miracle.He said we have the hottest.He said we have the hottest country anywhere in the world.But he said it was a declining country under Joe Biden.He said we had a declining, a seriously declining country, which we did, with people pouring in from all over the world from prisons and everything else.He said what President Trump has done has been a virtual miracle.

It's the hottest country anywhere in the world, and it is, yeah.

Mr. President, on a different subject, on Cuba, there's reporting that Raúl Castro could be indicted by the DOJ, I believe.What does that mean?

I don't want to comment on that.I'll let DOJ comment on it.But they need help, as you know.And you talk about a declining country.They are really a nation or a country in decline.So we're gonna see.

We have a lot to talk about on Cuba, but not maybe for today. today.

Tariffs, Mr. President.Did you agree with President Xi to extend that year-long truce on tariffs?We didn't discuss tariffs.I mean, they're paying tariffs.

They're paying substantial tariffs, but we didn't discuss.You know, before I came along, it was the opposite.We didn't discuss tariffs.How come?

Wasn't brought up, Mr. President.You said in January to us that you were going to bring up the expansion of their nuclear program.Obviously, they've got 600 weapons now, by the Pentagon estimate, going to 1, 500.Did that come up?Did you succeed in getting them into any form of arms control or the remember we discussed?You're talking about China.

China.We we brought it up.The denuclearization.

I talk about it all the time with Russia and with China, and it did come up.We did discuss.And what did you conclude?I got a very positive response.It's the beginning.You know, we're going to be together four times potentially this year.

We have the G20, which he wants to come to, which I'd like him to come to.It's going to be in Miami.It's going to be in Doral, and it's going to be, I think, very good.Much more important if he's there.And so you have the G20.We have one that he has, as you know, in November, right, in China.

He's asked me to be there.I'm going to try to be there.And then we have another one on September, I guess, 26 or 24, where he's coming into the White House.I'm trying to understand what it is he committed to.If he committed anything.Well, I don't want to say anybody committed, but we have a very good understanding.

Are you?You know, the concept of denuclearization.Denuclearization or just a new an extension?No, a denuclearization.In other words, building down.And you bring Russia into it also, but the concept of that is something would be very good.

I asked about the the political prisoners in China.Did you bring up with President? President?President Xi any the political prisoners in China?Are any going to be released?Any progress?

I think he's giving very serious consideration to the past.The pastor said he's giving very serious consideration to that.What about Jimmy?I discussed it.What about Jimmy Lai?It's a tougher one.

I did bring it up.It's a tougher one for him.It's a tougher one.What did he say about Jimmy?He said for him it's a very.He told me. I don't want to mislead anybody.

He said Jimmy Lai is a tough one for him to do.You know, they went through a lot.And right or wrong, they went through a lot.So he told me that would be a tough one.He said he's going to strongly consider the past.

Sir, I ask you two on technology.First, computer chips, advanced computer chips like the H200s that Jensen has.Did that come up at all?With it didn't come up, but as you know, Jensen was there.

He's an amazing individual, and he would be in front.You know, they have much higher level than the H200, but the H200 is good.China needs it, and so yeah, it came up.They haven't bought it.We haven't bought it, you know, because they chose not to.They want to try and develop their own, but it did come up, and I think something could happen on that.

Okay.

And then on artificial intelligence, have quite a bit higher level, but the H200 is a good, it's a great chip.And then on artificial intelligence, what is it that you want to get done?Did you bring up?We did.We talked.

You know, we're leading by a lot, but they're second and they're very strong.And we talked about possibly working together for guardrails.And what kind of guardrails?The standard guardrails that we talk about all the time.AI is fantastic.So many things can happen in terms of health, medicine, operations, everything, military.

So many things can.many things can happen but it's also got some drawbacks and we're talking about we probably will we're going to work together we had a very good conversation about a lot of things so biological nuclear cyber did you specifically discuss those risks we discussed I would say almost everything you can discuss except for a reduction of tariffs on on Iran Mr President just to be clear I mean what what's next are you is is the threat of the bombing starting again how realistic is that I don't want to say that I mean I'd like to tell you I'd like to say on a certain hour a certain day the bombing is going to start I don't want to say that I can only say that Iran I can say this with very very strong conviction Iran will never have a nuclear weapon not going to happen what would the use be no chance what would the use be of repeating the bombing you you did it for 38 days we did and you did not get the political changes in Iran oh I got I had a total military victory but the fake news guys like you write incorrectly you're a fake guy guys like you write about incorrectly we had a total military victory we knocked out their entire navy we knocked out their entire air force we knocked out all of their anti aircraft weaponry we knocked out all of their radar we knocked out all of their leaders number one and then we knocked out all of their leaders in the second division and we knocked out numerous of their leaders in the third division and they're very confused we've had a total victory except by people like you that don't write the truth you know you should write I actually think it's sort of treasonous what you write but you and the New York Times and CNN I would say are the worst on another on another wall you should know betterYou're editors tell you what to write, and you write it.You should be ashamed of yourself.This is another war.Many actually think it's treason when you write like they're doing well militarily and they have no navy, no air force, no anti anything.

By the way, we knocked out 85 of their manufacturing for missiles.We knocked out everything.We haven't knocked out other than one bridge, and we did because they misbehaved.But we have bridges we could knock out.We could knock out their bridges and their electrical capacity within two days.We can knock out the whole thing.

And then I read the New York Times, and they act like they're doing well.Everybody knows that.That's why your subscribers are way down.You know, the Times subscribers are way down because it's fake.

Did you discuss Ukraine at all with President Xi?And is there any movement on that?I did.

We discussed.Well, it's one that we'd like to see settled.Until last night, it was looking good, but they took a big hit last night.So it's going to happen, but it's a shame.Twenty-five thousand people died last month.

Admiral Cooper of Semcon was asked yesterday about the strike on the girls' school on the first day of the war.

Oh, it's under investigation.You're talking about the original attack.Yeah.

The only case of investigation at the moment is civilian casualties.

I think we have a couple of things under investigation, but that is that is under investigation.Are you able to confirm yet?It was a U.S.missile.Who you with?BBC for the radio.

BBC, you mean the ones that put AI in my mouth, the ones that gave me that had me saying a statement that they now admit was not true, that the ones that put terrible words in my mouth and then had to admit that it was fake, the ones that are being sued now for five billion dollars and don't know what to do.You with BBC?There are another fake outfit.Yeah.

About the deals in China. in China.嗯

And by the way, and more than that, you saw the reporting on the missile capability, missile launchers that have remained.

Yeah, yes.No, it's New York Times fake news.The missile launches are probably eighty percent gone.The New York Times said it's like we were hitting them like like pinatas.The missile launches are largely gone.The manufacturing of missiles is about eighty percent, eighty to eighty-five percent gone, and we know where the rest of it is.

So if we go in, we'll take that out very early.Intelligence reports seem to indicate though there were no intelligence reports.Not not for that.They weren't intelligence reports.

They were New York Times fake news.Sir, would you consider lifting the sanctions on Chinese oil companies that buy Iranian oil?

Well, we talked about that, and I'm going to make a decision over the next few days.

We did talk about.Do you think she feels felt stronger in his dealings with you than he did the last time that you were in relationship last time until COVID came along?

You know, I blame them for that.I said it was Wuhan, and it was I was right.And you know, look, that was a strain on everybody.COVID, and so I, you know, it affected our relationship at the time.But we always had a great relationship before that and after that.Now it's as strong as ever.

I mean, I went over to where he lives, which is something that rarely happens for you there.Yeah, it was beautiful.It was amazing.People have never seen it before.It's amazing, actually.We had lunch.

We have a great understanding.

You don't think he feels it's a very positive thing to have these two nations getting along?Mr. President, on Taiwan, and you said you were going to check with the president of Taiwan, but the 1982 assurances the President Reagan gave that you would not, that the United States would not consult with China on arms sales to Taiwan.So it sounds to me like you have consulted.I think 1982 is a long way.It was. was.

That's a that's a big farce.Did you just spend with them?No, I didn't say anything about it.But certainly, you know, brought that up.You talked about that to me, obviously.So what am I going to do?

Is I don't want to talk to you about it because I have an agreement that was signed in 1982.No, we discussed arm sales too.Now, what's his request?We discussed the Taiwan, you know, the whole thing with the arm sales was in great detail, actually.And I'll be making decisions.What's my deal?

But you know, I think the last thing we need right now is a war.That's 9,500 miles away.I think that's the last thing we need.We're doing very well.Would the U.S.defend Taiwan if it came to it?

I don't want to say it.I'm not going to say that.There's only one person that knows that.You know who it is?Me. I'm the only person.That question was asked to me today by President Xi.

I said, I don't talk about that.He asked you today.He asked you if you would send troops.

If you would ask me if I defend them, I said I don't talk about that.She tells him now.I don't talk.Did you talk to him about the cyber attacks that he's done in the United States or the MSS has done?

I did, and he talked about attacks that we did in China.You know what they do, we do too.Like the spying, they're talking about.Oh, the spying.I said, well, the spying.We do it too.

Infrastructure.Look, no, I'm talking about spying.I think the question was asked to me yesterday, I guess.What about the fact that China is spying in the United States?I said, well, it's one of those things because we spy like hell in them too.

So, what about the fact that China is putting in the U.S.infrastructure code that they could use if we, if you ever decided to come to the, well, you don't know that.

I mean, I'd like to see it, but it's very possible that they do.And we're doing things to them.I told them we do a lot of stuff to you that you don't know about, and you're doing things to us that we probably do know about. about.But we do plenty.

It's a double.It's a double-edged sword.Again, on President Xi, a couple of years ago when President Biden met him in San Francisco, he was asked if he thought President Xi was a dictator.Do you think President Xi is a dictator?No, but I think that President Biden was an incompetent president.

He gave us the Iran nuclear deal, which allowed Iran to have a nuclear weapon within a matter of years from the time they said I terminated it.If I didn't terminate that, Iran would have a nuclear weapon, and they would have used it within probably two years ago, three years ago.If I didn't go in with the B-2 bombers nine months ago, Iran would have a nuclear weapon, and nobody would be able to talk to them.By the way, they would have used it already.Do you think President Xi is a dictator or not?I don't think about it.

He's the ruler.He's the he's the president of China.I don't think about it.You simply would have.You deal with what you have.I respect him.

He's very smart.He loves his country.I respect him.Whether he's a dictator, that's for you to figure out.

Sir President, you said you didn't talk about tariffs, but did you talk about fentanyl at all?

Yeah, and I talked about fentanyl.As you know, I put a tariff on because of fentanyl, and they discussed that.But I I put a penalty.A penalty, very a lot of money we take in because of that.I'd prefer not taking it, and I prefer that we don't.But we didn't talk about fentanyl.

Well, I don't agree with you.We always, well, you know, the fentanyl is down, way down from where it was, and it could be because of the tariff penalty.

So, as far as what you were saying before about the enriched uranium at Isfahan, so what would your logic be in having just a 20-year deal?I mean, the deal that you pulled back was 15 years.Whether they would have gotten it faster or not is up to you.But what would the difference be here in 20 years?

Well, Obama had virtually no deal.Obama had a road to a nuclear weapon. a nuclear weapon.and I terminated that deal.And if I didn't terminate Barack Hussein Obama, if I didn't terminate that deal, Iran would have had a nuclear weapon two years ago.As you know, that deal long expired.So taking the most gears doing it, and after you're bombing, they're not.

You know what?I tell you what.I know you backed Obama, which shows what a fraud you are, because it was a worse deal.They would have had a nuclear weapon within a period of a year and a half after I terminated it.If I didn't terminate that, and if I didn't send the B-2 bombers in nine months ago to obliterate, you know, one thing that did happen, which was very nice, the top person in Iran representing them was the top person.He said, "I'm the only one.

" Meaning, the United States is the only one, along with possibly China, that would be able to get the nuclear dust out of that disaster that we created with the B-2 bomber.Are you willing to do that?And why do you?Yeah, no.At the right time, at the right time, we'll either go in or we'll get it.I think we'll probably get it.

But if we don't get it, we'll go in.But you're willing to mount the operation?No, I think they'll be totally defeated, and we won't have any risk.Yeah.We have the equipment to take it out.Nobody else does.

China might have the equipment.They said you're the only one.They said you and China, but they weren't.We have we have the equipment to take it.

Sir, did you discuss North Korea with Xi?I did.What came out of that?

You know, I have a very good relationship with Kim Jong Un.Pretty quiet.Have you had any communications with him?Yes.What kind?Does it matter?

I mean, I don't tell you about that.But I have a good relationship with him.He's been respectful of our country.I want him to be respectful.He's been respectful of our country.Hey, thank you very much.

Enjoy the flight, everybody.Thank you.Come ask yourself.I heard you didn't have cameras back here.In fact, I loved it.I heard. I heard.

they got a camera.I heard that you were shut out for two hours until we leave the airspace.But he's got a camera.He's got never misses a trick.You better make me look good with that camera.All right.

Thank you very much, everyone.