2 Introvert vs 1 Ekstrovert

Today we're talking with Michelle Judit and Taskia Namia. Thank you for coming here. It's quite a long time.

Yeah.

It's perfect. I was watching this show. I was watching... Rudy Sujarwa once made a workshop on acting. You were there, right?

I was.

It turns out, right?

It turns out.

That was before you started your career in this movie industry.

Before I started. It turns out that before starting a career in this movie industry.

Before starting, I was on FTV with Michelle for the first time. The first time I was on FTV was with Michelle. And then I joined Rudy's class. That was 12 years ago. 12 years ago. Then I met again in this new movie.

You met again with Michelle in this movie, Alas Roban. The one you wore the shirt. Why is it so cool?

You wore it yesterday. We should change it.

We should wear jeans. That's right. So, you were on FTV first? FTV. Oh, you met Michelle there. Now, what is it?

Full Circle. Full Circle, you met again in the movie. How was it when you first played on FTV?

Still like,

Brother, teach me, brother.

No, no, no.

I just knew, I was on the same FTV with Boy William.

How was he? Do you remember?

I still remember. I was sick, I was sick. I greeted, Kia, yes, Micheal, I'm sick, Kia, please. Do you remember? I was in Tenggara, and I greeted him. Kya, yeah, Micheal, I'm sick, kya, please. Do you remember? I was sick. My voice was gone. I was so small.

Like a small jenglot.

So you were a jenglot too?

No.

So you were sucking blood?

Yes.

Is he taller now?

He's taller and more mature.

He was skinny, not taking care of himself?

He wasn't like that. He was like, I still want to play.

Now I still feel like a kid who is forced to work.

But I swear, I took care of him. Sometimes, he was like, Michelle, play. He was like a introvert Radit. Oh, you don't like to be crowded.

No.

So sometimes I have to be like, play this, play that. Yesterday, check the tension. Whatever is annoying so he won't be upset. But from the introvert side, when he's told to play,

we're like, can we not play?

I said I'm not confident I said, I'm not confident

See, she's not confident She's not confident because you've tried so hard

She was so crowded yesterday And then I was like, whatever

See, it's true

She's not confident

And then I saw that there were so many people So she had to focus on me

I was so confused Everyone was like, everyone was going to take a shower

And then we were like, we waited for so long Bro, why is everyone like that? Hehehe. Hehehe. That's it. Just try it. It's a horror movie.

It's a horror movie. That's right. So, she's an extrovert, and he's an introvert.

Yes, that's right.

It's the same when you're on the TV.

It's the same. He's been like that since before. He's quiet.

So, we have to one who's laughing. He's laughing because of him, not me. What Tamiya do you play? What Tamiya do you play?

Oh yeah, I play ST50.

I play ST12.

Oh.

I don't know anymore, I don't understand.

I just want to jump because I was poisoned by Jod. Oh, keep going gas, bro.

Do you have a match?

I don't dare, all the guys. I'll be seen.

You'll be seen? They sleep at night, but no one will pick them up. There's a girl playing Tamiya.

But no one will pick them up because the father is against him. So how do you play? How do you test your speed?

At home, sometimes I go to Jordan, sometimes my brother or my friend ask me to go to Jordan

So he can check if I'm jumping or not, if I have to wear a band or not

Wow, that's cool

You just found out about her hobby? Yes Is it at the location where she plays Tamiya?

No

That's cool, Michelle I don't think many people know about it So you're a Dynamo player?

Yes, Dynamo player? Yes, I'm a Dynamo player. I weigh, I kick, I last. Really? Yes, I'm a Gundam player. I chat and I last.

You're also a Gundam player? Yes.

Sorry, we're not in the same team.

I don't understand my girlfriend.

Because when I was a kid, I didn't have money to buy things like that. Now, I'm like a kid who has money. I buy everything. But how did you build your Gundam, Michelle Judit?

I saw Kakai Parkwaja building her Gundam, I was like, it's so small. Before it was colored, some of it was re-colored.

Sprayed. And then it was put in a glass to make it look better. Right, and then you'll have to spray it on your face every Sunday. So it won't get dirty.

I don't think that's a good idea. I think that's too extreme.

Do you paint by yourself?

Yes, I do.

What's your favorite Gundam? Do you watch it too? I like freedom and barbatos. Freedom and Gundam? Yes.

I'm so freedom.

I have this much at home.

Barbatos?

No, freedom. Freedom and Gundam.

Yes. But that Karin Blood orphan. That's so sad.

Crying? Crazy, crying until she's sick. She's a friend of an introvert kid. She can be an extrovert when they click. What are they talking about?

You have to know that the Iron Blood Orphan... ...the kids were forced to go to war. It's fun. They found a robot...

...to be a rebel. It's so fun, right? And they found a robot in Gundam.

To be a rebel.

I was forced to watch anime like this. Anime, anime. My boyfriend and my friend Givina. Givina. Her husband too, Mario. Mario, right? I was like, I'm not going to get it.

I said, I can do a normal cartoon. So you have to start from Free Ran.

Oh, wow. We...

That's soft.

That's soft and calm. Or Your Name, Kimi no Na Wa. I also watched Your Name. The ending was so sad.

Your Name is not... Your Name is not the Korean one. Gebe-gebe. That's called My Name.

Who's that? Han Songhee?

That's called My Name.

I've seen that.

Yorlin is crazy. But they both have names.

Oh yeah, they both have names. For Vriren, the story is like... Slice of Life. Like an adventure.

But it's about the end. But he's actually really strong He can hide his mana If he turns out he's the strongest

Yes, he hides his mana

Where's my mana?

But that's enough, let's talk about our hobbies Okay

What's your hobby? Just listen to you guys

But the introvert people are because they are mostly at home,

rarely go out, so we go inside.

It's the same.

For example, my boyfriend, if he watches, he really watches anime until he falls asleep. That's one. Second, if he watches something, it's the same, like a game. It's the same as you guys. And if he... He plays PS too? He plays PS. If I'm picking something up, it's just like a toy. It's the same as you guys. That's why sometimes I'm like... And he's like...

He's a player. If he meets a lot of people, he can drink medicine. Because he feels his energy is taken. So sometimes when I meet him, I'm like this. I want to meet this guy. Do you want to join or not?

If you want to join, you have to... You can't be stubborn. Oh, you have to let them know first. Then the introvert person can be like, okay, I have prepared myself. That's why when the anime,

he has tried... I have tried this anime, I swear I was asked I watched it many times.

You didn't like it?

Maybe, I think. I haven't got the right one. What's your taste? What do you like?

I like the love story with...

Your name.

Scary.

Scary, scary.

Not scary, but like... What is it? Like the expert. I don't know.

There are so many.

I just like Sailor Moon. It's from the past. Okay, just Spy X Family.

That's funny.

I'll try it later. I'll try it.

Berserk is also cool.

But it's so dark. Very, very dark.

I'll try it.

So I got the character in the movie. The shape is like... I don't know what Givina is talking about. Because I... You play a movie and get a character that is similar to the anime. We are like villains, right? The shape is similar to this anime. But I don't know which anime. Okay, okay.

Do you like to invite your boyfriend to events like that? No. I used to have an ex like that. To Toys... What was it?

Comic Con.

Comic Con. And I was once followed. Okay, it's so expensive. I don't have that kind of money. But now, I can be more... My girlfriend is more into games. Like yesterday, I played Switch.

You played Switch together? I did. Overcooked. Oh, Overcooked. It's funny.

It's funny. We fought. It's a. It's funny. We always fight. It's a mess. Overcooked, Mario, Mario Kart, Mario Bros, Jambore. And I'm playing Hogwarts.

Hogwarts Legacy.

But you're alone? Alone.

You mean not with your girlfriend?

If I'm alone, I'll play Mario Bros. If you're alone, you'll play Overcooked.

Because we always to fight. It's a good idea. I can actually make it. I can.

Because I make my own name. I'm looking for a chat GPT that means this. What's the proximity of the 6th? And then he has to...

Oh yeah, it's the same.

His name is in Aceh. If I use a girl's name, it's...

Eh, who's my name?

Raditya Dika.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, my name. But in Aceh, it's... Who?

Oh, Dita... Dita who?

Dita Arkar who?

I'll try it later. And I made my face into a girl. Me too, because I have a pony. So, I have a pony.

But a boy?

A girl.

What do you mean?

But if it's a boy, I'm happy.

I prefer it. I still have the girl side. So, I still have it.

That's so fun. The funniest thing is, there's a Pokemon exhibition this Sunday.

It's so fun to meet a guy there. My girlfriend asked for a Tamagotchi Pokemon.

Tamagotchi Pokemon?

I bought a Tamagotchi. I'm trying to manage it. Then she said, Why didn't you buy it? I also want a Pokemon. I said, that's crazy. It's worth a million.

You're throwing up.

I don't think so. She's dead. He was dead yesterday. I reset it again.

Same with Anissa, my wife. She's also taking care of Pokemon. No, no. We met again in the movie.

Do you remember the first conversation? Was it during the reading? What was it? But he was so loud. Like, what? What did you call him? I was just talking about theario. But at first... You're really working.

You're working right away.

I mean, it's not like being rigid. I mean, sometimes there are people who don't meet for 12 years.

12 years.

That's rigid, right? He's not rigid at all. And we can talk right away. I think we can manage hard to manage the chemistry.

Okay. So, this is a horror movie based on a robbery. Can you tell us a little bit about it?

I've watched the trailer. Let's start with Michelle.

The story is based on a robbery. In the movie, it's actually a compilation of real stories that are told by many people. About their journey after passing a robbery, the obstacles that they encountered. We compiled it, organized it into a movie...

...starting from the story of a small family... ...between a teacher and her son, Gendis, who is blind. Then they had to go through the Alas Roban at night... ...so that tragedies happened... ...that were also experienced by the people around them.

Then we filmed it. These stories are compilations? Correct. Are the compilations written by the author?

No, it's written by the author.

So, for example, in Alas Roban, there's a saying that you can't look back. There's a white monkey, a secret shop, and a cat. The compilations are visualized in this movie. So, all of the stories are about the catfish.

But the story is not a compilation, right?

No, it's a compilation.

It's an album.

It's a story.

No, we made it more... There's a drama in there. This is actually why Sita went to Semarang. Because what Michelle did, she really wanted to work... At the same time, her child recovered. Her eyes can be operated. Maybe because she was in a hurry, he was afraid of the ambulance.

So he even crossed the road, which is actually not allowed. Because there was a distance in the dialogue, if I'm not mistaken, he was sure he wanted to be this late. He said, like, let's go, sir. We have to get out. Okay, so it means in the real world, the alasroban is closed at night? Not closed, you can pass, but please, if you want to bear the risk, please.

Sometimes there are people who feel like it's normal.

So, at night, if someone passes by, just let them pass?

Just let them pass.

If there is a risk, it's your business. If there is a mystical, if there is an accident. That's right. That's why people say that there are a lot of people who scream, and they are asked for help. Or there are a lot of car and motorcycle brakes that are impossible to take. Okay, that's Michelle's character.

What's your character?

My character is Michelle's cousin who was left by her husband to go out of town. So, her life is not quiet. Finally, they came. to go out of town. So, their life is not quiet. Finally, they came. Tika always accompanied Michelle's life, Tika's life,

finally always accompanied Tika and Gendis' life who were accompanied by Farah while in Semarang. The bridge between her belief and not about the unseen.

Okay.

So, he still tries to think logically first. But actually he knows, in his heart, he knows that there is something with Alas Roban too. So, you both are influenced by Alas Roban? More, but Michelle.

Okay.

But when you first received the script, were you familiar with Alas Roban? right? More than that, but Michelle. Okay. But when you first received the script, were you familiar with Alas Roban?

Have you heard of it?

I've heard of it for a long time, because back in 2014, I started to do roadshow films, on the road, crossing the city, riding a car,

but there was a traffic jam. But we were told, the traffic was bad, there was another road, Alas Roban. But don't do it, don't do it.

Oh, they said that?

Yes, they said that. It was a long time ago. So now we got the title,

why is it Alas Roban?

And then, oh, no shooting in Alas Roban? Because it's impossible, right? And then, is it dangerous? It's still very dangerous because the magics are very strong. Suddenly, it turned out that I was still shooting there.

Wow, you were shooting in Al-Saroban, right?

Yes, that's right. So before we started shooting, I couldn't stand seeing there were sages. Big disclaimer, I'm not a person who is too into the magic. I just pray and read the Quran

She's a national terrorist Even though she's a terrorist If I'm in the city, she's a national terrorist

But I don't believe it Because I've never seen a person who's hiding things

I'll show you later I've seen it a few times I've seen it a few times

And?

Anyway, I don't believe it.

So I was surprised, how serious it was before the shooting. It's like a sage, and we have a lot of keys. The one who guards the shooting process in Alas Roban is the player. The crew is even watched to not break the barriers during Alas Roban. I think, oh, this is my first horror. I just found out that horror movies are so detailed and careful.

It turns out that hiding is dangerous.

That's right.

I just found out.

It's dangerous. If you're going up the stairs, it's pretty dangerous.

You can be like, aah!

You can be like, aah!

You can be like, aah!

You can't hold it.

She always does this when she's talking to a stranger. Because I saw Kia acting, action!

She was like, is that real? I'm scared.

She's really scary.

Where did you get that reference from?

I don't know. Because I've always liked YouTube like Diari Misteri Sarah, Jurnal Risa, and so on. Sometimes I research about that.

Okay.

And sometimes I talk with my family friends... ...who are just like Diari Misteri Sara... ...but they don't use YouTube.

Oh, you've been to the toilet too?

I have.

You've been to the toilet too?

Of course.

What's the worst? The worst is... I've been there. You've been there? Yes.

What was the worst? The worst was... I've never been to the worst. But it was standard. Crying, screaming, and the one with the hand like...

Like that.

If it's like that, it's the Kayang's Surupan.

I haven't reached that point yet. I'll try to find it. If it's like that, there was a mass recruitment. Really? But is that true?

It's true.

In high school. Smart, no way you're lying. No way. I'm not lying. Who knows, maybe it will be viral.

It's not like that. It was the era of Rumusha.

Right.

It was the era of Japan.

2003-2002.

I was a junior-2002.

I was a junior high school student. So, if there was a leak, I was taken to the post-junior high school. Because for us, all diseases are treated with warm tea. And the leak was brought...

With white wood oil. White wood oil. I was given a leak, I was still crying. Another leak, I was in the crowd. So, it was fun,rowded room. So it was like, fun, crowded, right? Yes, of course.

I was dizzy, I went straight to my room.

Usually people are quick to leave.

That's right.

So it turned out that the room in the PMR room was the portal to another world.

I believe that. Is that still now. Oh, no. But they said, well, this is also called a high school kid, right? That portal has been around since 2003. Many people know.

Portal?

Yes, the portal of the real nature. Oh, this door. But that's the noise of a high school kid, right? Yes. It turns out that we bring the hidden child, all the hidden children,

even to the place where the portal is. So it's getting worse, more crowded. Actually, there is also a portal in this movie. There is a story about the portal. The way, the ritual. Because the reason for the hidden child is really from another dimension.

That's why in the real story, there are many trucks that suddenly got lost in the forest. They were driving and suddenly they got lost in the middle of the forest. So, they moved a lot of news. They moved places. Yes, so they drove all night and suddenly they got lost in the middle of the forest. And there was no road, nothing. Suddenly they got lost in the middle of the forest.

So, the portal can take them to another place where the portal is open.

Yes. It's expensive to rent.

You don't have to use a visa.

Bismillahirrahmanirrahim.

Portal.

It's a time tunnel. But sometimes, people's secret is depending on what kind of secret they have. There's a lion, my friend, he suddenly stopped and went like this. A knife? No, it was like a Fajar Set Boy.

Like that.

Oh my God.

The jokes of an introvert kid.

What's the joke of an introvert kid? It's already in the category. Okay, so that was from Michelle. It turns out that she was surprised too. Okay, so that was from Michelle. I was surprised that the shooting was in Alas Roban. Did you know when you were shooting that the shooting was in Alas Roban?

Or was it just a guess?

I heard that it's not just Alas Roban. There's also Alas Purwo.

Oh, there's a difference?

Yes, Alas Purwo is between Banyuwangi, if I'm not mistaken. And what I caught was the same shape. It must be dark, no lights. And if we stand here at night, there are people there, but there is no light at all. We can't see people at all. It can only be the sound of monkeys.

Okay.

And then I found out that this movie is more detailed. Like, if I'm not mistaken, there's a place to throw the bodies. Yes, a place to throw the bodies. A place to throw the bodies. And it's like in the Dutch era. In the past, there was a job for Roddy.

Mr. Dendels was making a road there. Mr. Dendels was the one who made the road.

Mr. Dendels was quite a tough guy.

So, he was the one who threw the body. That's why there were so many tragedies. And there were so many accidents. The road was also bumpy. I thought it was normal if there were so many accidents. It was so dark.

Okay. When you knew that you were going were shooting there, and you knew it when you were about to produce? I just knew it. You weren't afraid? Like, we were shooting in real Alas Roban. To be honest, no one in my part was in Alas Roban. Except for Michelle. Because she was the one who crossed the road.

True.

I was in Semarang. After that, she had some weird things after crossing Alas Roban. That's why she met my character. So you didn't experience the shooting on the road. Wow, he's really good. Right, Alhamdulillah.

You're afraid of...

Oh my God.

Because in my opinion, sometimes, wherever there is... So not only in Alhazroban, but Alhazroban is in my opinion... ...the urban legend. That's why, thank God. Where is it? Especially in Alas Roban. I really believe in that. I once thought, can I get it in Alas Roban?

It turns out it's Michelle. Michelle, before reading, she had a research. The research is the sound of a baby goat, the sound of an animal doing something.

What do you mean?

Yes, this is a baby. So, if there's a baby goat is the animal's voice. What do you mean? Yes, this is the child. So if there is a Kuntilanak, the voice is identical to... ...he's looking for it. He's really like, no, that's the voice of a tupa or what? The voice of a married musang. Looking for a logical explanation.

So that he's not afraid.

So that he's not afraid.

Smart.

While I'm the type of person who really believes in it. What is the explanation? Kuntilanak is a wedding ceremony.

So, Musang Birahi is Kuntilanak? Yes, so I had a camp before we shot Alas Roban.

With what purpose?

The purpose is so I don't get used to the forest. Because I've never slept in the forest, especially when I entered the forest. This is a professional. A professional actress, You're preparing yourself. Yes, so I don't get sick again. And I don't easily fall ill or anything.

Or I get itchy, or my face is itchy. So I know what to do when I'm shooting.

That's why you're on a camping trip?

Camping trip. Where? In Bulukumba. Bulukumba? Yes, it's far away. It's crazy. Because in Bogor, there are a lot of animals. There are not many animals.

You are a zookeeper.

Are you looking for a mongoose? No, I'm looking for a similar one to Alas Roban. The forest that is not touched.

Alas Roban has a lot of forests?

Alas Roban is a forest.

Oh, it's a forest.

Full of forests on the left and right. And a ravine. And the tree is so high. From the tree to the top is still very high. Okay, you were in the Bulu Kumbha. Then I learned that the voice of a baby goat, close to the baby goat, far from the baby goat, if the voice is close, it means it is far.

If the voice is far, it means it is close to us. Conan said that. Suddenly, there was a crackling sound. It was like, hmmm. I was like, oh my God. I immediately read the prayer, why is it a morning prayer? Because everything that comes out, reflects.

Like, oh my God, what is this? Eh, wait a minute, wait a minute. That voice, fortunately one of our friends, that voice, no, no, that's a mongoose. Let's go out. The tent was also big. Oh, yeah, mongoose. Okay, Google.

Search on TikTok. Oh, yeah, that's right. It's a mongoose. And then we know someone is running. Oh, that's a mongoose. And then at night, there was a sound of a rooster.

Sleeping butterfly.

No.

Sleeping butterfly.

Rooster. It's like sleeping. No. Sleeping? It's like a sound. Oh, there's no sound. It's like a snoring. Yes.

It's like a sound.

They're nocturnal, so their sound is like a gondola. It's like a very scary sound.

It's like a sound.

How do you know it's a sound?

I'm nervous.

Because there's... How do you know it's a kangaroo? No, no, it's true. Oh... Because he was looking for his son. Oh... The deer was looking for his son. Correct. And the animals there were deer, male deer, big deer. The one with the wings, the antlers were the same. Like a boar and a wild boar.

So I knew, oh, this is the voice... Oh, it's not Gundoro, maybe all this time people have been thinking, ha ha ha.

So when I first read it, I was confident.

Okay, because after that, there's no sound of a pig?

A pig?

I will be loyal, I will. Oh no, that's not the sound.

Is that a dog?

So, you, the result of the audition, besides you know about the voice, what did you get about the preparation for the audition? Because of the audition, what else did you learn about the camp? What did you learn about the camp? I'm more confident about it. I know where I am in the forest. I brought my assistant to the camp. She wrote down what we're going to do.

Where's the assistant?

There.

So she's the one who's stuck.

To be honest, don't you think it's a hassle?

Yes, it is.

But we're in the middle of the night.

If that's the case, you should just go to work.

Because we're in the middle of the night, we've been working since the evening, we've been making tents.

So you saw the rusa?

No.

Yes!

She was forced to believe.

So the rusa is close to you, right? No, she's far away.

Oh, she's far away. Are you afraid of following her? No.

Oh, cool. She always brings salt, mineral water, salt, and sprays it on the car tires,

so the devil won't follow her.

She's more clandestine. She's more like a clinic.

He's more like a car wash.

Yeah, he's a car wash.

So there's no stains.

Salt water is pouring into the tires. Is it just the two of you? No, there's another friend. There's another friend, two more people.

Is it fun to be a car wash there?

It's okay, but I can't do it without a light.

Okay.

If it's still dark, I can't do it. It's really dark, right? Yes, it's really dark.

Thank you. And it's really cold. Thank you.

It's fun.

I'm not interested. This is a camping. No, thank you. Thank you.

I was thinking... Where's the PVC and the pipe?

There is.

Oh, there is a place? No, it's a small tent. Yeah, like that. We are very prepared. Glamping, not like that. Oh, glamping.

We are very prepared.

I mean, not glamping. Glamping is nowadays, there is a bathroom inside. I think this is what I used to do in Bandung. There is a camping, it's a camping, but there's a bathroom.

Not a cabin?

Not a cabin. So we still build the tent, but there's a bathroom. Is there a bathroom?

Yes. Oh, a bathroom, a real bathroom, not on the ground? Like, yes, as it is.

I didn't think of that. On the ground.

Is the ground drilled?

No, no, it's just been prepared. What do you mean? The toilet. There's a squat toilet and a sitting toilet. I think so.

I think so?

What is this?

I think it's this.

I think it can be the one that's been prepared.

Yeah, it's been prepared.

It's already a public toilet.

Oh, that means it's true. Not half dead. Like if it's at the location of the shooting, it's already forced, it's just made round. Sometimes I like to think, this can only be a toilet, if suddenly we want to go to the toilet, we're confused.

Yes, yes, yes.

I really want to go to the toilet. That's it, I was okay. What's the toilet in Alas Roban? Bus. There's a bus with a toilet?

Like a caravan. So there's 4 toilets. The female lead in the trailer, I saw her sticking her head out. Farah Bociel. Our Bociel Kematian. I saw her stab her head with something. Oh, the syphara, the syphara. The syphara of our death. But actually, this movie is not too gory, right?

Horror that is not gory. But it turns out, we never know how it will be.

Was it gory when you were shooting?

Our nurse couldn't hold it, like, cut.

When we were shooting, I don't know.

As far as I remember,'t remember it as gory as that. Gory? I was watching it. It was just morning, right? I was watching it, and suddenly the little girl... She was like, oh my God, she's got her own head.

Eyes, if I'm not mistaken.

Oh, I'm explaining it again.

Eyes. Because she's blind, and she was angry with her mom.

Mom doesn't like me because I'm blind. It's so sad.

But it's actually sad.

It's so sad.

But the trot, you made it...

What can I do?

Yeah, I mean...

That's our life. I mean, it's been a long time but...

I haven't cried yet. How was the shooting with the little boy? Was it hard? There were a lot of scenes at night, is he sleepy? He's not sleepy, he's happy. He's really happy. We already know how to make him happy.

How? How do you make him happy?

I think he's dancing in all of my phone. So it's funny, we put on a wig. Because we like to see him dancing in a wig. Does he like to dance? No, because's like... Because of a bottle, you know. Oh, yes.

We like to see him like... That's the song, Gara Gara Se Botol? Yes, Gara Gara Se Botol. That drink, right? Before, we were in a relationship with K-pop. It was okay.

When we... Eh, because of a bottle of that drink that bottle. He didn't say anything, but he looked at me. He was afraid of his mom. He didn't want to drink. He didn't want to drink. We said, auntie, just once. So that the kids will be happy, and we'll be happy. Because we were sleepy at night.

He was so excited. He likes to dance.

He likes to do that. Maybe because of TikTok. We asked him to to TikTok. And I think this girl is not a rowel. She is really fun to be invited to work with. Especially with her character, which I think is not easy. She wears soft lenses.

Oh yeah, I saw that too. White soft lenses. White, right?

The funny thing is, you don't want to sleep first. Because this is the queen of sleep, right?

Oh, the queen of sleep.

You don't want to sleep first. Because you're the queen of sleeping, right? Oh, I sleep first. You don't want to sleep like your mom, right? No, I don't want to turn on the soft lens again. It's okay, just use it when you sleep. I'm afraid the soft lens will go back. Oh, it's a paranoia.

But you can know that. Yes, I can. You can see it.

But she can't see it. But he's pity. He knows that there's a process to open and close it. So, like, I want to sleep. But it seems like since the last day, he's already...

He's already stupid.

He's already sleeping on his arm. There's a photo of him like this.

His eyes are open.

Like a naughty kid. If he's sleeping, you know, he's... With soft lens, no? With soft lens? Yeah, I feel bad for him. But it's okay.

But fortunately, it went well. How long did it take?

About a month.

Wow, that's a long time. How long did you stay in Alas Roban?

Alas Roban was a week. Oh my god, a week in Alas Roban, bro. Where did you stay? I stayed in Semarang? Yes, it was 45 minutes trip. Oh, because it was at the end of the city. It was too deep.

So, we usually started the shooting in the front, and then we went to the middle, and then we went back to the beginning. That's why we had a shooting in Jakarta. Because there were some golden scenes that can't be done on the set. Because it can be a second mass shooting.

Oh yeah.

Amit, Amit, Asif, Razim.

Because it's like an invitation.

Because we have a shooting moment where the ritual is done... ...when we're in a group. They say that in a group, we can't We can't drive, we can't go anywhere.

But...

But we have a shooting schedule. I didn't know that we were shooting in Satusuro. But I was confused. Some crews were wearing a fabric. Why are they wearing a fabric? They said, this is a Satu Suro, sis. I remembered why I remembered that Satu Suro is not allowed to work,

not allowed to travel far. Because my late grandfather died when Satu Suro was on the road, in the toll road. In the toll road again. In the toll road. So, we were shooting the ritual for two days. We were shooting the ritual for two days.

The first day was the one-day ritual. But I don't know why, it felt more sacred and magical.

On the second day?

On the first day. On the first day, okay. That was the one-day ritual.

Oh, the one-day ritual. What was the ritual?

The ritual was a gamelan, there was... Oh my God, really? You really did that in one take? There's a gamelan, there's a skin painting, there's a dance, there's some mantras, and there's like, the scene is also very intense between everything. When we shoot the next day, it's not as good as yesterday. The situation, the feeling that we...

If we shoot on the second day, it's still continuity. The feeling is still there. But the magic that we felt on the first day is different. The aura, the vibe from the area. Okay. If you experience a horror moment, until you get sick or something, and you said you experienced a horror moment too.

You got sick or something.

Oh yes, I did. Why? I don't know what I got sick.

What do you mean?

I almost got to Penang. Because I was in the hospital for 5 days,

and Taskiya came.

After the shooting?

After the shooting.

Oh, after the shooting. After the shooting, Oh, after the shooting. Yes, after the shooting. Before we went to Al-Sorban.

Okay. Huh? How?

So, I was sick. We took a break. Then, after I recovered,

not long after that, we went to Al-Sorban.

Oh, so you haven't wrapped it yet, right?

Not yet.

Okay. I was hospitalized for a while. I was told that if I don't have a fever, I'll have a stroke. But I've never been hospitalized. I was in the intensive care unit for 5 days. I checked my blood and I was told that I was fine. Really?

I didn't know what was wrong. You didn't have any infection?

No, I didn't. I called the doctor and told him that I was fine. I tried to check my blood and it, but it didn't show any symptoms. I just got a fever. It's not clear in Jakarta, because they told me to check again, but I did.

Because in the case of TBD, there's a sign that the virus is being checked. Because yesterday, one of our family members got sick. So, we checked everyone. If there's a mark on the DBD, if it's a typhoid, I got typhoid yesterday. The white blood cell or something has a bacterial mark.

You don't have it.

No, it's okay. Even though it's said that you have a typhoid or a type BDD. Yes, if it's a type BDD. Because since Maghrib, Issa has been sneezing. Sneezing after that is like a step that the body is so hot. The nurse always checked me every night. My assistant was sleeping. She said...

She was more horny than you. She was rude.

Wow, what an assistant.

She even noticed.

She even contacted my mom. I woke up every 2 AM.

You woke up every 2 AM?

Because when she was sick, her face was a bit different. I also saw the BTS photos. The photos when we were shooting.

Is it true?

Yes. It's almost like when I first came here, Luna told me about her face. It's not as bad as that. But we can see that the child is sick. But the aura is weird.

So, the pain is only in the evening?

The tingling is only in the evening?

No, I'm excited in the morning. Like, what should I eat today? I want this, I want this. But when it's time for Maghrib prayer, Isa is like, I'll just, I want this. But when it's time for Maghrib prayer, Isa started to think, I should just die. What am I doing with my life?

What else? My goal is suddenly...

Oh, it's affected by your mental health.

Yes, suddenly I felt like a quarter life crisis.

Oh, really?

Yes, what else?

For five days?

Yes, at the hospital that it was enough. For five days, I was like dead. People might think that I was still playing Instagram. But no, I didn't know what I wanted to do. You never thought about your it before you started shooting? No, I have so many dreams.

I want to live in Japan, buy a house like Nobita. I want to do so many things. Now, I feel like I'm done. When you were sick? Yes, when I was sick, I felt like I've achieved everything I wanted.

I'm done.

So, what are you doing in the world?

I really asked the doctor, Doc, I can't sleep, please. So, the injection of the infusion is definitely injected with sleeping pills. Like, please, I'm tired. So, why am I in this world? Because everything I have is already achieved.

Yes, why? Yes, why is it still there? If we're still in this world, it means there's still a use for others. Or there's still a use for nature. But like, what else is the use?

There's everything.

Yes, suddenly it's like questioning. During the hospital stay, the happiness is only when you wake up. Because the food is delicious. Like the Dharma tourism, being noticed, being loved. That's it. When it was night, I was like, I don't want to hold my phone, I don't want anything. Is there any response? Is there anyone sending me a message?

I was like that. I felt...

What time did you sneeze?

I sneezed at 12 o'clock, I had a high fever again. And was it safe to take blood? I was checked again the next morning, it was safe. I was healthy again in the morning.

I was healthy again. I'm healthy again. I'm happy. Thank God. We came to his place when he was still happy. When he was sick? Yes, when he was sick.

It was already noon.

It wasn't his weakness. It was already noon. We came to help him. He was also prayed.

After that, I just... Lost your friend? They came, it was good. It was good, because the next day, I didn't bite again. The next day, I didn't bite again, I went home. That's when they came.

Miss your friend.

Miss the extrovert.

This is my friend.

Be careful. I are my friends. Yeah.

Be careful.

You need to be more careful.

But that's confusing. I mean, it's hard to believe. Because you're still preparing.

Have you been shooting?

I've been shooting.

I've been shooting but there's still some left.

There's still some left for the alas-roban. So, have you ever been to alas-roban before? No, never. So, it turns out that the areas that we think are safer than the war...

...actually don't lose their immunity. Because, again, if it's like that... ...maybe Michelle's body is not really fit, right? She just came in like...

Assalamualaikum.

Like that.

All quiet in Gundam. He just came in and played around. Like, Assalamualaikum. Like that. All the gundams are quiet.

Yes. It's great. I can leave one. Like that. But the gundam is like that.

Gundam is not like that.

Oh, it's not like that. Gundam is a doll. I'm not a doll.

But you've been in a lot of horror movies. What's the difference between Alas Roban and the previous projects?

For me, I've never taken the Alas Roban. We usually shoot in a place that is anchored, but we don't discuss the place. But this time, we really discuss it. So, for the audience who will pass by that place, they will be more careful. And secondly, my goal is one of them is because...

I am very curious to be directed by a female director.

Oh, you haven't?

Not yet. If I get a chance, it will be a tandem. There are two people, there are two girls and two boys. The girl will hold the drama, and the boy is in charge of the action. But this is really pure, right? Directed by Buhadra.

And I think Buhadra is really good at horror, and also good at drama. I think this is a combination of the two.

Okay, what about you, Michelle? What's the difference between the previous projects?

Besides being sick.

This is my first horror movie.

Oh, your first horror movie.

I've never been this determined before. But I thought, I was confused, why? I regretted it when I already... I mean, when I already knew that the world of Indonesian horror shooting... ...is where we can find the horror places. Where the most horror things are, we do the reenactment. For example, the secret shop in Alas Roban is very famous.

We reenact the secret shop. And the white monkey that is said to be in the cage... ...if you see it, it's a tragedy, and so on. We have to see it.

I was like, why did you pick up the ball? Why did you torture it?

YOLO.

Yes, why? Why? But because I pitched it at the beginning, they said it was a mother and child movie. I immediately said, yes, this is a mother and child movie. Yes, Michelle, this is a film about a mother and her child. Yes, Michelle, the struggle of a mother is really hard for her child. Seriously?

Yes, in the 90s, the struggle of a mother was really hard. Not like the mothers now, right? A lot of help, a lot of what? Then I thought, I really want to. All my friends have become mothers, right?

I haven't.

Yes, you're the only one. I'm not married yet. You too. I'm not a mother yet. You're a father. But I feel like I can't meet them anymore. It's hard to meet them.

So I want to feel like they are busy. And suddenly there's a child who's going to be our world. It depends. Shifting. We have the world of Gundam, now the world of my child.

How is that possible? I want to feel that.

But can you still play Gundam with your child?

Yes, I can.

I met my husband in a game, the two of them.

You can?

Yes. As for my kid, we like to play Lego together.

We can still go to the coffee shop together.

Really? But I thought you were her husband.

No, my brother and... We were talking about random things. But when we got here, it was fun. So, my brother and his husband met in a game. I forgot, Dota or something. So, they met there.

They dated. I met him in a game. I forgot which game. So, we met there. They were dating. It turned out that my mom and my brother's mom were colleagues. Okay. And her husband and my brother, who was the first, not his wife, were in the same school.

Oh, I see.

They were meant to be.

I woke up and went downstairs. I was about to go to bed. I was like, what is my nephew doing? Yes, laptop. Laptop. His son too. Laptop.

With different games. I was like, wow, this family is crazy.

It's so nice to play together.

But I think it's so funny. Because we can be together. Until now, it'm still like... But I like playing on my phone. Not as interesting as on PC. What do you play? ML, Mobile Legends?

They don't play Mobile Legends. They play Dota, right? I don't know. I don't understand. I was asked to play Ayo Dance. Because I thought... I have a pretty face. So people know that I'm a girl.

Ki, try to be accompanied by Warnet. I opened it differently. Friendster.

That was a long time ago.

Like, you can do it. Your title is... ...Tamia and her friends. Like in the days of Rive TV, when we were holding hands, we were like... God, please help me. Holding Tamiya's hand together. Sorry, sorry.

Tamiya, you want to jump?

I want to jump. But it's possible to meet someone who is not as hobby. Like Anissa, she's the same as her.

She doesn't know Gundam, doesn't play games.

She's a girl.

Yeah.

It's okay. The important thing is my dad supports me.

Yeah.

What do you want to buy? New Nipper? It's already piled up. I have to change it. He cares. Oh, he cares about supporting accessories for Gundam. Yeah, like what is to support the accessories for Gundam. Yes, like what else to play, what are you playing, the canvas is empty, paint is oil. Don't buy the cheap one, buy the best one.

To be honest, we are really opposite.

Between you two?

Between me and him. In my opinion, when I was listening, I was like, I should be playing that. You're the one playing me. Why? Because I really like the cute feathers.

What for example?

For example, I really like Crybaby. Crybaby? Crybaby.

The song.

The song.

Oh, yes.

Fugles, Fugles.

Fugles, I like it too. Fugles, I have it, it's so cute.

It's like a little one.

Fugles is so cute.

Yes, it's weird, I've never been given bubbles. That's funny. No, but I like the Crybaby, Powerpuff Girls, they have similar shape. I like bubbles too. I don't like Buttercup. Okay.

And Mojojojo.

Mojojojo.

I like them. I've been listening to them and I was like, maybe that's what people see from me.

Oh, yes. We're the same.

No. No.

We're the same. She's like...

I'm like...

What's that? I don't touch her.

I touch her like... I'm really similar to her wife, Karadid. She likes makeup more. I'm all about it. My impulsive is buying makeup. But it's not visible.

It's like you're more... I'm like one who's impulsive to buy make up. But it's not visible. I'm like on the radio. I'm the one who's like, Kakia, do you want to put a song that's like Kakia? What's my song? What's the genre? They said rock, blues, indie.

I'm more into K-pop.

Oh, you like K-pop.

I'm Blackpink, I'm a big fan of YG.

Babymonster.

Who's your bias? I like Blackpink, I like Lisa, and now I'm a big fan of Jennie. Rose. When I was in a concert, I fell in love with her. And for Babymonster, I like Chiquita and A$AP. And for Bigbang, I like G-Dragon, T.O.P, all of them. G-Dragon, yeah.

And Taehyung.

I even commented on Rose's IG.

What did you do with that, sis?

Why did you suddenly change your mind?

Yeah, I know you comment on girls' IG.

So, where did she post the photo? Nice.

Oh, really? Yeah.

You're so sweet, sis.

No, not here. Maybe you should come to the podcast. Sure, Rose. Okay, this movie is on air on January 15, 2026 at the cinema. So, please watch it. You can watch the trailer anywhere. I saw that when you came in, you brought a paper.

What is that?

I think it's a mantra paper. I don't know. We found it on the left-hand side I think it's a mantra paper. I don't know. We're going to put it in the left hand.

But this is a bit sacred. I'm afraid it will become a portal.

What kind of mantra is this?

Mantra for...

The one that's read in the movie? Yes. Oh, this is a film paper.

This is like a kid who's doing a tattoo.

And then you do this.

And then you just do this, and then you write it. Can you say it's not that?

Right?

Yeah, okay. But the point is... I don't know if people will think we're just being funny. It looks like a print.

Right?

You can just give it to them.

They have this thing. They have a business. How? They buy that, that kind of glue.

Oh, so it can be used as a business. How? They buy that kind of glue. Oh, so it can age.

But it turns out it's not used. So they print it.

Print it.

Why don't they print it in one sheet? Oh, I know.

They print it and can't turn it over. Can't.

So this one ages.

The left one ages and then they stick it.

Yes.

This one must be used for rice. Then you stick it on. This is definitely using rice, right? This is the mantra in the movie. The mantra in the movie.

If we read it, maybe something will happen.

I think it can. Because the words are to allow me to enter another dimension of the alasraban. Or another dimension of this place.

No, no.

The thumb is pressed.

Oh, the thumb is pressed.

Oh.

Yes, yes.

What, like this?

Oh yeah, you don't know?

Yes.

Wow.

Wow.

And the content is so heavy. You see, it's like that.

Like this.

We thought it was like that We thought it was the one We were like, I love it

We'll let you know later

We'll let you know later I don't know, it's just a bunch of stuff

How many times is this?

Okay, let's read it. The point is, you can open the portal. Yes. Is it in the movie? Yes.

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