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4HØGÓ a nuestro BEBÉ de 15 meses en Santa Marta por vengarse de mi: Ahora está prófuga

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She is Jenny Higuera, 28 years old, who is a fugitive in the justice system. On December 1, 2025, a judge in Bogotá sentenced her to 36 years and 8 months in prison for killing his baby. Samuel Guerrero, only 15 months old, in strange circumstances, on a beach in Santa Marta, north of Colombia. What happened to her?

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What happened to her mind? Why did she kill her baby? Edwin Guerrero, Samuel's father, is with us. Edwin, thank you. Thank you for being with us and accepting this interview. Why did she do this?

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Hello Rafa, thank you for the invitation. I think Jenny did this to my son as an act of revenge, in an egoistic way. I think the egoism is binding her.

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When was the last time you saw your baby?

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Rafa, look, the last time I saw my son was February 26, 2022. be. I was with my cousin David. I told him to tell Jenny to let me see the child. And Jenny didn't touch me, but he didn't touch her today. So I told him to let her see him for five minutes, just a little while. She gave in, let me see the child. I took him in the car, he lay here on my chest. I remember that time so much because my son was already a year old.

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And to have a child that age still is very difficult. They are very imperative. But that was something very strange because he came and I greeted him. He remembered me. He lay down on my chest and I comforted him. He said, son, I promise we will meet again.

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And I comforted him, I hugged him, we stayed like this, I think about three minutes, and Jenny said we had to say goodbye. That was the last time I saw him. The last time I saw him, I gave him to my cousin David. He took him and gave him to Jenny.

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He tried to cry a little, but when Jenny picked him up, he stopped crying.

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How come you didn't see him constantly?

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It was very difficult for me to see my son. Because Jenny put a lot of barriers for me to see him. And one of those barriers was having been denounced for family violence.

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Family violence.

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You f***** her.

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I never did. And why did she put her in a man's house? Rafael, look, in November 2021, I didn't go to the house that day. I stayed at my house because with Jenny we lived close, very close. I kept the car in my house and moving from my house to Jenny's house, even though it was close, can be a little dangerous. I stayed at home and the next day I called her, but she didn't answer all day.

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Until 6 in the afternoon she sent me a picture of a totally shaved boy with a shaved head. My son was 11 months old at the time.

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And he had a shaved head and you think it was a sign for you?

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I think it's a sign that today I say that I shouldn't have omitted it, because Jenny showed her first warning, in which something happened to my son when I didn't agree or didn't have a reward for not have a good father.

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And now we go back to this. How did you start that relationship between you? Where did you meet? In what year? What started with you?

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Well, me and Yenick lived close, very close in the same neighborhood, you could say. In Kennedy? In Kennedy, in the neighborhood Carvajal, or close in the same neighborhood, you could say. In Kennedy? In Kennedy, in the neighborhood Carvajal, or Villanueva neighborhood. Near the neighborhood of Alqueria de la Fragua, that sector.

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I saw her pass by and I thought she was a very pretty woman. I liked her a lot. And we started chatting on Facebook. We went out, we went out more often. And almost three months later we got together. It was a beautiful relationship.

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I was very in love with Jen. I really loved Jen. We started in 2018, we lasted until 2019, the pandemic came, Jenny got pregnant,

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more or less in the month of... I think April, I think April is a month that I have a lot of respect for her. And... because of the pandemic,

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I couldn't be close to the whole process, we dedicated ourselves to accompany her, to take her to the doctor, because of all the restrictions there were. In fact, even Jen, as an auxiliary nurse, she did the controls in the same EPS where she worked. So, that's how we lived the pregnancy. I remember it very well. I was born in San Jose Hospital. It was a very nice thing when they gave it to me. I remember it very well, with a lot of love.

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The month of August arrived. We had planned a trip to Melgar. Jenny came to my work, picked me up. I was in the car with her. I told her we were going to have dinner somewhere nice. She said we had to get home quickly because my son Samuel,

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his grandmother, was pregnant and she was sad to say we didn't have half an hour or more. I told her, come on, let's go. She stopped and I bought myself an arepa and that's it. She got off, I got really upset, she got off and ate the arepa and brought me a... You got really upset, why? Because I didn't like it, I didn't want to eat on the street, that's the truth.

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I didn't want to have anything special, fish for us. She got in the car and brought me a stuffed arepa. She said, take it, eat it. I said, I don't want it, I really don't want it. She said, you're not going to give it to me? She threw it in my face.

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I got a burn on this part of my face, the car was totally dirty, the roof. Even so, I started the car. When I got to Jenny's house house there is a traffic light very close it's very very close to Jenny's house and the traffic light changed to red I was reducing the speed and she

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pulls the car in motion and? as the car was going a little slowly it didn't fall back or anything, it fell like running so I close the door I leave the diapers

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that I took the diapers and the milk from's diapers and milk, and went to the car. When I had closed the door, she came running and said, Where is my son? What did he do? I said, I just got in, there are the diapers, I'll go up and put them in the car. You lived there with her? I stayed at night with her and my son.

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And then? Mm-hmm. a state in Guasap, that says that my son is sick and that he needs help from a doctor, a respirator. I was worried. We went back to Bogotá and when I got to Bogotá, I visited my son and I saw him and he was normal. He didn't have any mucus, he didn't have anything.

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I thought that maybe it was because Jenny wanted to hurt me. I told Jenny I didn't want anything to do with her. She said, please, please, let's try it with our son. I said, look, you threw a sand in my face, it was hot, how could you do that to me? I said, look, look, our son, he's small, let's not do that, please come back to me. I love you, let's get through this.

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And it's the last time you do that to me, Jenny. Because I love you, but I won't allow it. My dad always told me, Rafa, that when in a relationship there was disrespect, even in words or something, there was nothing. And in that, yes, I am very direct in those things. We went through that.

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In that year, 2021, Ture arrived. Jenny's uncle got married, a paternal uncle. I proposed to her, we were with Jenny's father. And I told him that I would like to marry her daughter. That if I had any problems. And he told me no, that I could marry her.

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We arrived from that trip, which was in Villavicencio. I bought some flights to go to Santa Marta in the month of February of the year 2022. That's when November happened, that November came and I didn't get home. That's when Jenny raped the boy. She kidnapped him, she complained. Why didn't you stay at the house? That day I didn't stay at the house because I had left Bogota and I arrived very late and going on foot to Jenny's house is a

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little dangerous at that time. I decided to stay at my house. Did she assume that you were with another woman? I would believe so, I would believe so. And you weren't with your other mom? No, I was with my cousin that time. We were in La Calera. And then? I called Jenny the other day. I said, how are you?

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She didn't answer me. Not even on WhatsApp or calls. Only until 6 in the afternoon she sent me a picture of the kid totally exhausted. It was something very sad to see. The picture she sent me because in the face, in the image, you can see that my son was very uncomfortable with what they did to him, as if that had bothered him a lot. It hurt me a lot to see my son like that. I complained to him, why did you do that to my son? No, because, so that he wants to escape, I told him, I think you did that to the boy because I didn't get home last night, right?

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The thing was that Jenny gave me food that day. I had dinner, normal. And I had lent money to an uncle, a man named Ricardo Casallas. Some time before, and I told him, come, what happened with the money? They haven't paid me. She said, I'm going to call my uncle and tell him you're saying you're going to steal from him. I said, no, you're not going to do that. You're not going to do that. Because I lent her the money.

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What she did was grab me and put two fists in my left shoulder. Two. But my son was in the middle. She got out of bed and started screaming, get out of my house. And my son was crying. I wanted to left my house. My son was crying. I wanted to force him to leave.

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I told him, if I leave, I'm going with the child. I asked him how he was. I started thinking, I'll take the child out at this time. I'm going to have problems with Jenny's family. I said, I'm not going to do this. I put him to sleep and gave him a nipple.

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I pampered him, I put on my clothes, and I left the house. Jenny opened the door for me. I left the house. Normal. Nothing else happened. It was 8 at night that I left that house. I got home, I went to sleep. The next day, I was late for work.

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And the secretary called me. She said, come Edu, your wife is here. I said, what are you doing here? I said, I'm coming. I arrived, and Jenny was there. She had a big chocolate bar with purple wrapping

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and the house key. She said, love, I love you, please, let's go back. I said, Jenny, remember the last time you hit me? That was the last time, I'm not going to take these things anymore. And she was insisting, she insisted a lot, let's go back, please, I love you, let's do it for our son. I said no, Jenny, it's the last time, and I said no.

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I said, I have to work, look, this is super full. Let me work. What do you do? I'm an automotive inspector. And then? She got up from the chair and turned around and said You'll hear from me soon.

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I didn't listen to what she said because I was really, really busy. I had a lot of work. She just turned around and said You'll hear from me very soon. And I...

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I kept working. I went to call her. I called her that afternoon, she didn't answer. I called her and said, come, how is Samuel? How is our son?

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She said, the boy is fine, but you can't see him because he has an incapacity of 25 days, and I have a protection measure against you and you can't see me anymore. He can't get close to us. I was devastated, I was surprised, but what did he do? What happened? I haven't done anything. They called me to the police station on November 30, 2021. I arrived at the station.

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But, well, before I arrived at the station, 8 days before I arrived at the station, I was at work. And some people from the SIJIN arrived.

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The police.

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Yes. They are men dressed in jackets that say SIJIN. They didn't wear police uniform, just the jacket. I got there and I got really scared. They were looking for me. So I told them, yes, I'm here.

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He said, come on, you are a man who raped your wife. We are going to go play the piano. So he put the fingerprints?

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Exactly.

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I had to take the to the police station in Taranda. I told him, don't do that to me. I'm the boss here. Don't do that to me. I haven't done it, but don't come to my job to do that to me. It's my job, don't hurt my job. I found out that Jenny had done something serious. When I went to the police station, I said, something serious happened.

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I got to the police station, I told the police station that Jenny had sent me to the police, to my job, and that she was copying the police station's and the family's welfare situations in the corporate emails. And Jenny was told, well, that's not done.

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You know where he lives, that's his personal email is his email, you don't have to send it to the corporate email. Up to that point, they were the first to stop Jenny. But when I got to Jenny's police station, I felt that the police station was very cruel to me. I still think that the police station was very, very harsh because with the incapacity that Jenny presented at the police station. I mean, 25 days, they tell you 25 days, that's a guy who hit his wife really hard, I mean, he finished her.

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And I didn't say anything. And I got there, and just as you and I were talking, she and I were here, and I was devastated. And the police station told me, since you hit her, you can't see your son because your son is not a toy. I said, please don't do that to me, let me see my son, I beg you.

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She said, no, no, no. But why are they going to give her 25 days of incapacity?

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What did she show that she had?

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A injured finger, the right finger, this little finger. This little finger. She showed me that finger, that she had an injury, and that's why. And that you had caused that injury? That I had hit her. A fist.

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I mean, there's a version of her found there. At first she said it was a fist. Then she said there was a forcejeo. But in the matter in the police station, the only person who accepted that there was violence or that there was violence against a person was Jenny. Jenny accepted that she had punched me twice.

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I have never accepted that Jenny did it because I didn't. And what happened next? They took us out of the police station. Two hours later, they brought us in. The police station said that what happened was very serious and that this process was going directly to the prosecutor's office. They said they couldn't schedule my visits because Jenny also put the appointment in the Family Welfare Department.

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And the Family Welfare Department appointment was for February 2, 2022. So it was practically Rafael two months without hearing from me. I was afraid because my biggest fear as a father is that my son will forget about it. I was afraid that he would not recognize me. I started fighting, I started filing complaints for arbitrary custody. I called the ICBF, the Family Welfare Office, and they told me that I was going to to file complaints for arbitrary custody.

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I called the ICBF, the Family Welfare Department, and the police station. I sent them many emails, please regulate my son's visits, my son's mother won't let me see him. They told Jenny that I could see my son. I saw my son, my son turned one year every December. I saw him that year, the last time I saw him was on December 16th. I saw him a little bit, I hugged him, and he left.

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The next day, I didn't know anything else about him, and three days later I found out that Jenny had baptized my son. And from there, what kept happening? Jenny was looking for me a lot. She told me to come back. And she told me that Samuel and I

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were the most important thing in her life. That please forgive her. That if I came back with her, that she would withdraw the complaint. So I started to have, to take screenshots,

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to record the calls, and to have the WhatsApp saved. I saw that it took a beating. I said, I have to show that I am innocent in this. After I told Janik that I didn't want anything more with her, it was harder to see my son.

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It was like a punishment. Not coming back with her was a punishment not to see my son. The month of January came. I spent all that December without seeing my son. I didn't see him. It was the first sad December that I really lived because I didn't know anything else about him.

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I thought he was the only one, but there would be many more Decembers without knowing about him.

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And what is still going on?

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After so much persistence that I did in the Family Welfare, the Family Welfare authorized me to... I was given a few days ahead, but I had to notify Jenny. So I called the police to accompany me home. I called them because I didn't want any action I took to approach Jenny to bring me trouble.

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I was always careful. I went with a police officer. Jenny signed the ticket for the appointment. She was authorized to come on January 27th, so about four days. I went to my house. Four hours later, I got a call from the Family Welfare Department. Jenny came to see me and we couldn't do the hearing on the 27th, we couldn't do it until February 2nd. I said, no, more time without knowing about me.

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I filed a complaint, an arbitrary exercise, to the police. The first time was in January. With my lawyer, we started to put a guard on the welfare and the police station so that they would regulate our visits. We got to the welfare, that February 2, I saw my son for the first time, that year.

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From 2022 I saw him until February. He was wearing dark glasses and a hat. He was next to Jenny, but I didn't pick him up because I didn't want to create that conflict that he's my son, he's my son. I didn't want that to happen. So the defender of the town in the family welfare said,

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let him see the boy. He's the father and they look alike. The same black and big eyes. So she started to say, no, he goes out, he drinks a lot, he lets other people know, he is not a good father. And then I said, if I was not a good father, when you went with your friends to rumble and you left me the kid, why did you leave me with the kid?

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21:27

Those were different times, he told me. We had been separated for only three months. Why do you do that to me?

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Did you drink a lot?

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No, I went out with my friends to play every 15 days and we drank a beer. In fact, when I drank, I didn't go home. I stayed at my house, that we could sleep in the same room as my son. I didn't want my son to smell like alcohol that you throw up when you drink.

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That's the truth.

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And what's still happening?

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They took us to the office of the family welfare lawyer. The lady's last name is Jaimes. I remember her so much because the hardest thing I had to go through was that I was going with my lawyer to the Family Welfare Center. The one that was attending us at the Family Welfare Center said, no, I'm a lawyer and you leave your lawyers down there.

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I said, well, yes, the doctor won't let her in. Only Jenny and I are going. Jenny comes into her office and I'm like, well, they're going to regulate my visits. They can't deny my visits anymore. And Jenny comes in and says, he has a protective measure against me and I have a 25-day disability. You have a 25-day disability? I can't schedule your visits. I said, but I've been waiting for so long for you to tell me that you can't let me see my son.

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Please schedule my visits, I beg you. He said, no, I'm not him and you can cry and all that, but no. I want you to notify my lawyer. My lawyer went up, they had an argument with that person, with that lady, Jaime, her last name is Jaime, and Jenny's lawyer felt sorry for me when she saw me like this,

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and she said, come, let's arrange the visits. The visits were arranged in a way between Jenny and me, without the welfare agency saying so, because they couldn't, supposedly, they. We signed a paper. Jenny asked me for a pack, it was 200 monthly diapers and two boxes of milk. It was a comfort milk, it was a expensive milk, but I agreed. I agreed to what she asked me. That I had to see him for hours, I agreed to see him for hours. I wanted to see my son. I agreed to what she asked me. That I had to see him for hours, I agreed to see him for hours.

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I wanted to see my son. I fought to see my son and I agreed to what she told me. I saw him that February. My mom told me, you have to check the child well, because maybe the child is going to have something, and with everything that has happened to him, maybe they say that he is going to fuck his son. The first time I saw him, he had a hat and a big head. I called him and asked what was going to happen to the boy. He said he was just playing. He hit another alert that I missed. Sometimes I blame myself for that.

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We got to the police station again on March 3rd and the police station told us that they were not regulating our visits because the one who had to regulate our visits was the family welfare and that the reconciliation that she had with Jenny was not valid because it was not authenticated. So Jenny took advantage of that because she told me that she needed, I mean, she told her that I could see my son, but when she went to the police station she forgot and said, since there is nothing signed, she did not let her son see him. I was in the police station for a month.

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The economic issue was not what she cared about. The issue was that I was going to see my daughter. I was punished for not returning with her. I traveled to Santa Marta in February. I went with my family to the same beaches where my son was going to go a few days later. Obviously, Jenny's flight was lost. It's because Jenny... I traveled with Jenny.

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In the guardianship she had, they didn't let me... they denied it to me. So I said, by God, I don guard that she had on denied me. So I said, God is there, I don't have to take her with me. With all the insistence I had, at the police station, they said, let's arrange the visits. We saw that there was a conflict. On March 31st, they summoned us at 4 in the afternoon.

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I said, well, this is going to end. In 2022. And Jenny didn't show up. They brought me in at 4 in the afternoon. I said, well, that's it. This is going to end. In 2022. And Jenny didn't show up. But I knew something was going to happen. Something was going to happen to her because

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when they were going to fix my visits to the welfare, she filed a complaint and said she was incapacitated. When they were going to fix my visits to the police station, the same thing, I said, something is going to happen. He didn't show up. He had sent a family member a day before who was incapacitated.

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Jenny was incapacitated that day. But the police station said, let's arrange the visits because the child has the right to be with his father. They arranged the visits. It wasn't the custody, it was the visits.

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It was to see my son every 15 days.

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Jenny's father calls me at 1pm, Mr. Jaime Higuera, and says, Edwin, where is my daughter? You did something to my daughter and there were so many. You are going to pay for them. I said, Mr. Jaime, I didn't done anything, but here I am. You know where I work. Come here. And then the lawyer called me and told me about Jenny. And she told me not to show up.

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That I should give Jenny some time to understand the process. I told her, understand the process? I had been almost four months without seeing my son. Let me see the process. I told her to understand the process. I had not seen my son for almost four months.

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I told her to let me see the child. Please, something happened to the child. Tell me. I called my lawyer and she told me, you have to go. Go to the police and come closer. When they put you, go for your son.

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I went. Jenny's mother came out, Jenny's grandmother, Jenny's stepfather. The three of them left that day. I was recording. My name is Eugenio Herrera, I am a 2022 first grader. I recommend my son Samuel,

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in accordance with the police station that he authorizes to do my rights as a father over my son.

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You can go to the police station, your son is not here. It's that simple.

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The child is not here. The child is not here.

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No, no.

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No, no.

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No, no.

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No, no. No, no. No, no. I was coming to pick up my son with the order I got from the police station. And Jenny's lawyer told me that my son was not there. And that if something happened to my son, to Jenny, it would all be my responsibility. So I told her, my son is in danger. I think I knew something bad was going to happen, but I didn't warn her. I went to the police station, I notified them, they told me I had to go to the URI. I got to the URI at about 9 at night. They didn't accept my complaint that I had to go the next day, on Saturday.

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I called Jenny, her would have paid for it. My lawyer wrote to her via email that everything was settled. She knew the role, she told me she couldn't see it, but she knew the role. We didn't know anything. I got to the border, I was going to file a complaint. After two hours at the border, Kenny del Car Carbajal, the person who was reporting the case said, your case is not important, come back on Monday.

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And I left. I was devastated. Rafael, I left for Villavicencio. I was very sad, very sad that weekend. My niece was in the same garden as my son. And my sister told me that Samuel hadn't left that Monday. I woke up on Tuesday to file the report.

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That day, they accepted it. And the next day, the Santa Marta police called me. They told me that they were interested in helping me find my son. And that if I could send them a photo of him and his mom. I obviously sent them a photo of her and my son, Samuel.

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And...

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30 seconds after that call, they sent me a photo of the news to the viewer, where they had found a body of a boy, about 2 years old, on the beaches of Buritaca. I was totally overwhelmed. I was at work and I didn't know what to do. The only thing I said was, that witch killed him.

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I moved from Bogotá to Santa Marta that same day. I got to legal medicine. They didn't let me see the child because they had to give DNA tests without knowing if I was not allowed to see the child because they had to do the DNA test to know if I was the father. It was very sad for me to know that. They did the test and told me that I had to wait 45 days and that I would return to Bogotá.

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I told them I was not going to go. I'm staying here. 45 days in this city that I don't know, but I'm going to stay here. Every day I spent was in legal medicine. The news came out, the media came out, but Jenny's family also came out saying that she was a woman abuser. So the news was,

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31:33

the father of the missing child is being charged for family violence. So the police told me, where is she? Tell us where Jenny is. If she did something to you, tell us.

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You are looking for the wrong person. Because I was not in Villavicencio. But here are the cameras of the city of Villavicencio. So they called Villavicencio, the hotel where I was, and they were able to confirm that I was there. And you had to stay 45 days in Santa Marta?

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No, after the news came out, I stayed 8 days in Santa Marta and my son was handed over on April 15th at 4pm. The prosecutor told me not to see him. The child was not in a condition to be seen by the necrosis that had been done to him. Because he had been dead for 15 days. I remember that day that I arrived at the Santa Marta police station and they had my son's clothes there. What they had found was his clothes, his blankets. And all I did was hug the clothes and

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I said, this is what Jenny did to my son, to make him disappear forever. I was totally destroyed. I think that the days I spent in Santa Marta I do not wish anyone, it was something very cruel, very cruel what I lived in Santa Marta, it is a very beautiful city, but what happened to me I do not wish anyone, anyone, anyone. I collected the things of's things, the blanket. We brought it to Bogotá.

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We didn't know anything about Jenny. She disappeared. We only had a few images of her entering the beach and then at 7 at night walking totally barefoot, alone, on the Caribbean coast. I never thought that Jenny would be able to do that, but when they told me that they had found my son, I knew that Jenny had done it. I said, she did it. I didn't believe it. I wanted them to tell me that it was an accident, but in the conditions and the way my son was found, I knew that it wasn't. Where was he found? But in the conditions and the way my son was found, I knew he wasn't.

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Where was he found?

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My son was found on April 4th, at 1am, by a settler. He was walking and he found the child, not on the edge of the sea, but on the beach. Because I want that to be very clear, the child was not thrown out of the sea. The child was left there, on the beach. The child was left there on the beach. The sea does not throw away the remains there. That's when they found the child totally...

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totally... He had nothing. He was upside down. What do the authorities say that happened? What I can deduce from what the authorities said is that Jenny could have intentionally let go of the child so that he could have been killed. Or the other thing is that Jenny grabbed the child and put him in her hands.

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I think the second one is easier. I understand the second one better because you go to that beach and ask about that case and all the people say that wasn't an accident. When a person...

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because on that beach, because it's an urgent matter, the bodies don't come out immediately. And the heavier the body is, the faster it will come out. My son was a little boy, a baby. He wasn't going to come out, especially not where they found him. The sea didn't throw him there.

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And what did Jenny do?

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Jenny went out walking. She asked for some socks to be lent at a house, at a townhouse. She gave her the socks and Jenny said that she had fought with her boyfriend and that her boyfriend had pushed her,

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but that she was going to meet a friend. She kept walking. She got to a town but she was going to meet a friend. She kept walking. She reached a village before Buritaca and a taxi driver picked her up. He took her home, took her to her mom. You see, this girl was alone in that...

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The lady told him, no, stay, stay here. He gave her food, Jenny ate, and went to sleep. She asked Jenny where she was from. The mother of the Vox Faxist. Exactly. And Jenny told her that she was from the city of Bogotá,

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that she lived in the neighborhood Carvajal, that she was a nurse. And when she asked her if she had children, Jenny told her that, thank God God she didn't have children.

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How do you know that?

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That is a witness who is also in the process. All those witnesses that I am talking about are there in the process. And from there, what happened with Jenny? She got lost. There, that time, she lost her 15 days. What I understood was that Jenny was in Barranquilla, Valle de Upar, in the mountains, and I ended up in Bucaramanga, which was where he made the call for the family to pick her up on April 15 of that year.

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The family went for her, but they didn't tell anyone. Jenny's family never worried about how they were going to transfer Samuel to Bogota. They didn't even go to the funeral. For this here come on a serial trailer a Samuel a Bogota no fueron nia lente a No, no, no preguntar on por nada. Just so we are on the me Solo de preocuparse a donde estaba Jenny Nunca más volvía saber

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de ellos a pesar de que si su freeway amenazas por parte el padrastro de Jenny y el tío

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Y de ahí que pasa con Jenny en bien un abogado es el lunes and I suffered threats from Jenny's stepfather and uncle. And what happened to Jenny?

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They sent a lawyer on Monday, April 18, to Santa Marta to represent Jenny. Jenny was admitted to a psychiatric clinic and Jenny stayed there for about 20 days. And after that? Jenny left the psychiatric clinic

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and she reports me for family violence again. For psychological violence because I would go out in the media saying that that I was doing psychological pressure

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that it was violence. And what did you say in the media? That I wanted my son to be cleared up and that I asked for justice for my son.

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And what happened next?

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I was denounced for injury and slander as well. I have several open lawsuits in the DA's office for those denunciations she filed against me.

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And?

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We got to the month of May, the police station summoned us. Jenny said she didn't want to be confronted. When a woman is raped, she can decide not to be confronted. She has that right. She said there had been an accident, that something had bitten her and that she had let the child go.

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That something had bitten her when she was walking on the beach with the child and she let go of the child and...

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When she found him, it was too late. And why did she leave? And why didn't she take the child somewhere? And why didn't she go to the authorities? That's something I still ask myself. I don't know why he didn't... Yes, I know. I know why he did it. Because he went to my son.

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He didn't want to leave a trace of where my son was. He didn't want that. Rafa, I... I went to where they found my son was. I didn't want him. Rafa, I went to where they found my son. I went to that place. It was a very hidden place. Let's say, from the beach, which is where people arrive,

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from the place where they found my son. It was about 40 minutes walking. It's's totally desolate and I remember that there's also like that thing that's close to the national park Tayrona there are those animals like the babillas all of that, and when I went there

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I said, probably my son could have found a babilla and I would have never found it and I would say I would still be looking for it and all that. And when I went there, I said, probably my son was taken to a slum and I could never have found him. And I would say, he would still be looking for me.

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So he said it was an accident. And the authorities believed him.

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No.

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They don't believe Jenny because it's not normal for someone to drown and not ask for help. It's not normal. But what happens, Rafa, is that there are many things that condemn Jenny. And it's first that when Jenny left Bogota, she was disabled.

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As usual, she leaves. At the Bogota City Transport Terminal, she would leave. At the city's transportation terminal, she changed her cell number and name, and went to Santa Marta. So when they looked for Jenny, they couldn't find her. So that's when a chain of hiding began, right?

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She started hiding, hiding. And the family would call her, and say that she was going to go to a place where no one was going to find her and that they were not going to take the child away from her. That's what I'm saying.

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That's what the mom said in the DA's office. That's what the mom said when I went to pick up my son. She said, Jenny left and the only thing she left was a towel that said, Mom, I'm sorry. That's what Jenny said. So,

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the place where Jenny arrives, Jenny stayed two days at the beach, El Rodadero. From there, she left at around 11 in the morning to Buritaca. She knew I had been there a few days earlier. The taxi driver charged her 180,000 pesos.

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She was always fed up with that because it was a special service to take her there because a taxi driver doesn't go there. They go there when they are paid well. He told her he was waiting for her because he wanted to bring her back and get the same 180,000. But she said no because she was going to meet some friends. So he didn't wait for her.

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Yes.

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The people that Jenny went to the beach said that she was going to meet some friends and that's it. The only thing was that the next day, which was Sunday, they found a suitcase on the beach with a car. They started looking and said, Hey, but this morning a child woke up

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on that side, on the beach of Guadalchaca, I think that's the name of that beach. And they said, maybe it's related to an accident. There are no more people, no one is looking for children, something happened. Everything leads to Jenny being a friend.

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And she is arrested.

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Jenny was released for two months to be arrested. She was captured on June 6, 2022. In the time that I was released, the process of family violence was moved. She was arrested in early June. And in mid-June, I was charged with family violence.

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The DA told me that if I accepted the charge, I would be sentenced to seven years, but if I didn't, I would be sentenced to 14 years. So I told her I didn't accept the charge, I was innocent, but I was very hurt by what Jenny had done to me, and I didn't want to continue living. but I was very hurt by what Jenny had done to me

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and I didn't want to continue living. I really didn't want to continue living and besides, my mom would see me in jail. I didn't want that and I thought about it many times.

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And she was arrested.

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She was arrested and put in prison of the good shepherd.

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And they accused him of what?

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Of being a drug addict. And how long was he in the prison of the good shepherd? Exactly two years.

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And what happened?

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The process got stuck. There were many delays. Sometimes the prosecutor did't present himself to the audience. But more than anything, the process was stuck at the beginning. Because the defense of Jennings requested psychological and psychiatric tests, which took approximately 4 to 6 months. And all that allowed the process to get slower and slower. What could I do? permitio de que el proceso se fuera poniendo cada vez más lento, cada vez más lento.

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¿Qué podía hacer yo? Tomar fuerzas y con un cartel me ponía en los puentes de Bogotá a pedir justicia por mi, decía, este niño de 15 meses fue alerta y dije, va a salir libre la mamá de mi hijo, va a salir libre. Yo le avisé mucho tiempo antes de que ella quedara en libertad. ¿Y qué pasó? I was on alert, I said, my mom is going to be released. I told her a long time before she was released.

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And what happened?

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Jenni was released on June 18, 2024.

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For?

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Terms of service. A hard blow. It's a blow that I still can't get over. Because... I was beaten hard. It's a blow that I still can't get over, because... It's very painful to know that the guilt of what happened to my son is still free. And on July 3rd of this year, 2025, he was sentenced.

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He was given the sentence of conviction with immediate arrest warrant. condenada. El juez da el sentido de fallo condenatorio con orden de captura inmediata. Y el primero de diciembre fue sentenciada. Así es.

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¿Y ella dónde está?

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Jenny fue sentenciada a 36 años y 8 meses. Y está a profuga de la justicia. No sabemos dónde está Jenny. I don't know if the police are looking for her. I don't know where she is.

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What day did the child die?

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My son died on April 3, 2022. The window of death can be between 4pm and 7pm. And exactly one year later, exactly what happened? A year later, exactly the same day, God returned to me what the enemy took from me, and I became a father again the same day day my son turned one.

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You had?

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A daughter.

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What's her name?

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Emily.

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Emily.

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How old would Samuel be today? He would be five years old. My son would be five years old this year.

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What do you think of all this?

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I think it's a story of terror. ¿Qué piensas de todo esto? Yo pienso que es una historia como de terror, ¿sí? Porque saber de que Samuel no está y que este año tuviera que cumplir añitos de cinco, eso duele mucho. Pero duele mucho más la forma en que él murió. Eso para mí es algo que llevó mucho en mi corazón. Llevó esa herida en el corazón de que no lo pude ver ni en el entierro, ni en el velorio, I was in the sun. I had this wound in my heart that I couldn't see him, not in the funeral, not in the funeral,

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because the prosecutor told me that she didn't know the conditions of seeing my son. So, the only thing I could give him was a hug and a kiss. A white coffin. I think that Jenny's selfishness was very hard.

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What happened to her? What happened to her mind? Just selfishness.

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It's also evil because I know Jenny's beautiful things. Because I have never said that Jenny would have were the worst couple in the world. I wanted to marry Jenny. I loved her. I loved her a lot. But there is something that Jenny, in her selfishness, wanted to give me. And it was a very hard blow. What she did to my son, what she did to me, and what I hear in the recordings,

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because sometimes I hear them, when she told me that Samuel and I were the most important thing in her life. She destroyed what she loved the most. That's how she got to that point. When you have the opportunity to see her, what are you going to tell her? I thought a lot about having her in front of me, but I don't have good things to say. I would tell her how perverse she is, how selfish she has been, the bad things.

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I am very afraid of what he is capable of doing, being in freedom.

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Edwin, thank you.

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Thank you for coming here.

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I am very sorry.

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I am very sorry. I'm very sorry.

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Thank you for the invitation, Rafa. Thank you for the invitation, Rafa.

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Thank you, brother.

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