
ESPECIAL I El Secreto Oculto de Jesús y el Caballo de Troya: J J Benítez
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The world is not as they have told you. There are stories that burn you to the bone. And then your life changes forever. I'm here to get really wet. I'm here to tell you what I have discovered in my travels and in my research. My name is Lourdes Gómez and this is what I would tell you on a rainy night. One day, in my childhood, I discovered the sea. And now I have come to it with my heavy load of sadness. It has been my confidant, in it I have emptied my anguish. This is how one of the books of Juan José Benítez, JJ Benítez, the Maestro Benítez, aunque no le guste nada que le llamen Maestro,
uno de los más de 70 libros que tiene publicados. En su obra, A solas con la mar, confiesa ese vínculo que tiene con las olas, esa amistad con el mar que le ha acompañado a lo largo de su vida, with the sea that has accompanied him throughout his life, in good and bad, in moments of light and darkness. The sea has always been his refuge, and to the sea I have come today, to meet the journalist who changed my life. I am in El Rompido, in a river in Huelva, in one of the most authentic and maritime towns in southern Spain. Here there are no forests of umbrellas or massification of tourists, only old boats, crabs and the bay of small waves. This is the landscape that JJ Benítez observes every day.
Here, in the break, in the sea, as always, he found light and love again after a period of great darkness. He is about to turn 80 years old, he has been saying for decades that he is going to retire, that he is going to retire, that he is going to retire. But how can someone withdraw from his essence, flee from his vital mission? That is impossible. He continues to write while observing the sea of the broken, he continues to travel in search of the mysteries of our world. He continues
to be the example for all those who, as in my case, one day decided to put on the boots of a reporter and travel the continents, stepping on the heels of the unknown. As I walk through the broken, several people me hablan de JJ. Todos conocen al hombre sencillo, cercano y amable, a pesar de haber tocado la gloria. El aparcacoches del puerto, el camarero del bar de al lado. No hay persona que no se deshaga en palabras de orgullo hacia el escr the heterodox writer who always knew
to have one foot in his roots and the other in pursuing his dreams. JJ Benítez was born in Pamplona, in northern Spain, in 1946. His father was a civil guard and until the age of 18 he lived in a barracks house of the Civil Guard. He graduated in Information Sciences, in Journalism, and worked in the general press, in media such as La Verdad de Murcia or La Gaceta del Norteette for several years. He was even a correspondent of the Royal House and participated in official trips of the kings of Spain, cultivating a friendship with Queen Sophia,
a mystery lover like us. One day in 1972, a newspaper newspaper televised a story about a UFO landing in Burgos. From that moment on, JJ Benítez became obsessed with this enigma, he was going to cover this information and cover all the news related to this topic,
with UFOs, for his newspaper La Gaceta del Norte. But his interest was even greater. Those ufological investigations made him someone different, something more than a journalist of general information. They made him the intrepid researcher who wanted to discover the truth behind the enigma of the unidentified. And everything intensified even more in 1974, when JJ Benítez heard that in Peru, in the Chilca desert, a group of researchers from the IPRI, the Peruvian Institute of Interplanetary Relations, founded by Carlos Paz García, have contact with supposed extraterrestrial beings.
JJ Benítez crossed the Atlantic, moved to Chilca and he himself had the opportunity to observe those lights in the Peruvian desert. As a result of those walks, his first books were born. There was Another Humanity, about the stones of Ica, and UFOs SOS to Humanity, about his experiences with the IP and Mision Rama. These titles became extremely famous. But despite that great fame, he began to receive pressure, to have serious problems to continue spreading the UFO theme. That is why he decided, in 1977, to abandon conventional journalism to travel the world in search of mystery,
with works on the UFO phenomenon as decisive and important as 100,000 km after UFOs, official documents of the Spanish government, or the fifth column, among many others. Through books, through television, series like Enchanted Planet, through all the media he had access to, since the 1970s, JJ Benítez has not stopped seriously investigating the UFO phenomenon, because what he does, applying journalistic rigour to the mystery, was not known before him.
Juan José Benítez is the journalist of the mystery that we have all drunk later, Javier Sierra, Iker Jiménez, Lorenzo Fernández Bueno and so many teachers and colleagues who have become what they are today, dreaming of being compared to something, to Juan José Benítez, like a waitress. Those who tell me today that what I do is not new, that JJ Benítez did it before, and they tell me it as an attack, cannot imagine the great honor it means to me. Because that is what I do, trying to look like something,
to that vital example that is, for me, Juan José Benítez. And not only the subject of UFOs has had and has the honor of being investigated by this great human being. In 1977, JJ Benítez fell in love with the figure of Jesus of Nazareth. He discovered that a team of scientists linked to NASA were investigating the Holy Saban, and J.J. Benitez began to pull the thread. Not the thread of the greatest relic in the world, of course, but the research of the historical Jesus, of Jesus beyond the Gospels. And so his first book on this topic was born,
The Envoy, and titles as important as the UFO of Bethlehem, the Testament of St. John, the astronauts of Yahweh and, of course, the Trojan horse. Many years ago, JJ Benitez was informed of a certain secret operation in the United States in which they had supposedly been able to travel to the past and meet Jesus of Nazareth. And so far I can read. Everything that happened is written in the different books of the Trojan Horse saga. Millions and millions of copies have been sold worldwide,
and there are millions of people who have fallen in love with that Jesus and it is different that these books offer us. I could be talking about Juan José Benítez for hours and I would not run out of conversation material. Maybe one day I will tell you how I started making pacts with my family in the afterlife, thanks to the famous paranormal pacts and investigations that Juanjo reflects
in his works such as Estoy Bien or Pactos y Señales. Or maybe I'll tell you the same, because he has told me that maybe in one of his next books he will tell the experience that I lived with my grandfather Antonio, once my grandfather had already left. And it is that the life to which Juanjo calls the contract is not very long. That contract that Juanjo assures that we sign before incarnate and being born, with all the experiences that we will have here on Earth,
is full of mysteries, but above all of lights and shadows. Juanjo has had moments of great light, like the birth of his children with his first wife Raquel, his children Iván, Sacha, Lara and Tirma. Moments of great light, like traveling around the world, living in the sea with his beloved Barbate,
with his second wife Blanca, with whom he shared many years of his life, and whom I had the blessing of meeting, and darkness when Blanca left in the middle of the pandemic. Now, thanks to God, as Juanjo says to Providence, which is nothing more than a synonym of God,
he has found his current wife immaculate, and his anchor in this existence and in his home of the broken, where he has once again discovered light and peace. That is why I am in El Rompido, in search of my Master's footprints, where I had the impertinence to steal a few minutes for you,
where he and his wife were kind enough to grant me them so that you can enjoy them in this first special of Rainy Night, where I did not record it with the best quality, but I put my soul and my heart to talk with Juanjo, with JJ Benítez, about religious mysteries. This is the first interview of Noche de Lluvia. Go ahead. adelante Hola queridos amigos de noche de lluvia bienvenidos al primer especial que hago en el canal de youtube y merece la pena porque estoy con mi gran maestro con
JJ Benitez. No me llames maestro. Juanjo es la verdad lo eres. Muchísimas gracias de corazón por estos minutos por concederme esta entrevista You are the truth. Thank you very much from the bottom of my heart for these few minutes, for granting me this interview to talk about a topic that many people have asked me about. You are a journalist, you are a writer, you have been for a long time, and you have written almost 70 books, illustrating us, enlightening us about the mysteries of this world, but if for some reason they know you mainly in Latin America,
it is because of Trojan Horse. Did you expect when you wrote Trojan Horse that it would have the power it has shown to have over the years?
No, not at all. In the year 83, when I brought the book, the editor of El Planeta in Barcelona, the editor, José Manuel Aragós, read it, he found it a very interesting book, and he told me, but you have to take 400 out. And I had an intuition, I don't know, something special, that told me, not a comma, nothing. And the editor told me, well, then we're going to die.
I said, well, to die. And look, millions of copies have been sold.
Trojan horse is important for the story, but also for a great enigma that has overflown the saga and that remains to this day. Is it a journalistic investigation, is it a rehearsal or is it fiction?
None of those things, no. I have told this many times, many times, and it is in the book. In the Trojan Horse, which appears in 1984, I tell how I have a contact in the Mexican Federal District with a person who claims to be a former officer of the US Air Force. In short, I interviewed him in Tabasco, Mexico, I thought he was dealing with the UFO issue.
When this man called me on the phone to the Federal District, after a program with Paco Bozabrodowski on Televisa, I thought it was about the UFO phenomenon. And that's why I went to see him. So I talked to him, it had nothing to do with the UFO issue,
we didn't talk about that at all. And then I interviewed him several times, and in the last interview in Yucatan, he gave me an envelope and told me, open it on the plane. And I, as I don't know, I'm a little idiot,
I opened it on the plane. It was a small key and a piece of paper with a riddle.
Well, from there everything started. I started to investigate, I managed to decipher the riddle and I arrived at a post office where there was a first part of the information that today constitutes a Knight of the Prophets. If this is true, if Hasson and all the characters in the saga are real, will you ever meet the real names or that information that you have not yet wanted to give?
No, no, no. I will never reveal the sources. It is a sacred thing.
This person asked me, begged me No, no, no. I will never reveal the sources. It is a sacred thing.
This person asked me, begged me, that I never reveal his identity and I will never do it. Besides, it doesn't matter. I always say that in the Trojan Horse, the most important thing is the story that is told. It is the message. It is the version that is given of the life and thought of Jesus of Nazareth. It has nothing to do with what the canonical Gospels have told us.
Therefore, revealing the identity of the person who provides me with the information has no greater relevance for me. If there is a secret American program of any other power that allows you to travel to the past, whether it is the time of Jesus or to any other point in history, do you think that these types of programs, Juanjo, have an influence on current geopolitical events, international events, how does it affect our reality?
I think it doesn't affect it too much. Why? Because a trip to the past, for example, like the one in Trojan Horse, has no greater transcendence in the current everyday life of the human being. It can be relevant in the sense of changing the thought and the mental compass of people,
which is very important, but not at the collective level.
I don't know if you know that on the Internet, because of the importance of Trojan Horse, there have been people who have related Trojan Horse with an enigma that is supposed to be born in the Vatican or in Italy, which is the chronometer. A supposed machine to photograph the past,
invented by the pilgrim father Ernetti, and a series of false photographs that came out in the press. Does the chronometer have anything to do with Caballo de Colla?
No. I remember that I read that news at the time. I was working then in the North Gazette in Bilbao, Spain, And I remember very well the news, it spread a lot, but I don't think that has anything to do with it. In fact, that machine that that priest invented or that he said he had invented,
was probably false.
There is a lot of talk about the Trojan horse, about the story, but little is said about the notes at the foot of the Trojan Horse, about the story, but little is said about the footnotes of the Trojan Horse. They are huge, they have amazing technical information. Juanjo, why is there such importance in the footnotes, that perhaps no other author gives it as much character as you do?
Let's see, that information that I received at different times, what I have done has been to respect it 100%. I have not changed anything, I have not added or removed absolutely anything. Then, those notes appear in the information. It was very difficult for me at difficult to understand the information at first. Why? Because they are notes about physics, mathematics,
about stellar travel, about medicine... I know absolutely nothing about it. But I swore to myself that if that information was going to be published, it had to be integral, without summarizing or removing anything. And look where, over the years, those notes even discoveries, that have not yet been discovered.
It is incredible, as it is also some phrases that you have said over time, such as, For example, the Jesus of the Gospels is unsmokable. The Bible is a shipwreck. Which Jesus do you follow?
Well, let's see. The life of Jesus of Nazareth in the canonical Gospels of the Catholic Church is a contradictory, negative, and evil character. I don't understand, I mean, I understand that Jesus of Nazareth was not like that. And in the story of the Trojan Horse, he is a different version. He is a very close, very human Jesus of Nazareth.
A Jesus of Nazareth, God, with capital letters, capable of doing some amazing miracles. So I stay with the Jesus of Nazareth and the Trojan Horse. I think it's much more logical, more beautiful, more hopeful.
Will there ever be a series or a movie about the Trojan Horse? I hope so. I hope so. I hope so. Returning to the Bible, you have dedicated several works and several investigations to that link between UFOs and religion.
And one of the most surprising investigations is in one of your latest books, The Wars of Yahweh, where you not only talk about those UFOs of the Old Testament and that vengeful Yahweh, but you even confess that Juanjo, beyond the journalist who investigates in situ, also even through the Silva method, deals with other methods of
investigation, not so much, let's say, to the order of the day. How were those experiences with the Silva method, Juan?
Well, look, I practiced the Silva method of remote vision, I did it in the 70s, I did the course and whenever I could, on some occasions, sometimes I used it to see in that remote vision, that is, a vision that is unique and exclusively with the mind, to see certain scenes or characters. In the Key Wars, I practiced it.
Why? Because I wanted to know what happened in the Sinai. How was Moses? What happened in the descent of those unknown objects in the Sinai massif? I did a series of experiments of mental projections of that time, and that's what I show in the book.
In that case, you even include portraits, since you are a great artist. Your field notebooks are a work of art, at least the little we have been able to see and enjoy your readers. In those robot portraits of biblical patriarchs, symbols appear in the key chains, umbrellas.
Yes, I remember that there is a vision that I have of Moses and I remember that it caught my attention because a pendant appears
in which the symbol of smoke is seen, with the famous H. I remember that it caught my attention because a pendant appears in which you can see the smoke symbol with the famous H.
Look, I can't tell you anything else because I don't know more. Only that you saw it.
Yes, yes. And I also wrote a book once called The Man Who Whispered the Ummites, where I do a study, a very deep investigation of the famous Ummites, which are a supposed non-human civilization that comes from a place, from a planet that they call or call Ummo, U-M-M-O. And when I develop this research, I realize that it is a very old civilization,
very old, that appears in many places could also have a relationship with these people from Exodus, from Moses?
There is another phrase of yours that catches my attention. You said at the time, Jesus was the first alien in history. The great alien. How is that? Well, it's very easy. When I say the great alien, I mean his authentic identity. Jesus was born on earth, in Bethlehem, probably in the year minus 7 of our era, but as his true identity, his true origin was outside the clear.
That is, that is what I mean by the great extraterrestrial.
I knew the Apocryphal Gospels thanks to you, thanks to your books. I knew, for example, the Javed astronauts and other books that revolve around that topic, that there were some old documents not included in the Bible that tell us another different story.
What opinion do the Apocryphal Gospels deserve you and that the Church condemns them so much or the believers in general. Well, the Apocryphal Gospels tell a part of the sacred history that was not accepted by the Catholic Church, as in the same way that the Catholic Church did not accept many other things, but probably the Catholic Church has stolen information from us. It has mutilated information. It has stolen many of the reports about the life of Jesus because it was not of interest to them.
In the 4th century, the Catholic Church decided that the Virgin, Mary, was a virgin before, during and after the birth. Which is absurd, isn't it? Jesus of Nazareth was born as any human being, exactly the same as any human being. But that didn't interest the Catholic Church. And it was decided by Article 33 that Jesus was born of a virgin, which is ridiculous, absurd and unnecessary.
How did the break-up of Juan José Benítez with the Church come about? I was educated, I lived in a society that lived in the Catholic religion, because that's how I was raised. But when I started to grow up, I realized that there were things that didn't fit. It didn't make sense. What the Church preached to you was absurd. And at a certain point, after I had started all the investigations, etc.,
I realized that all that was ridiculous, that it was a lie. And I simply went to the bishopric, in this case of Cádiz, and I requested the resignation of the Catholic Church. It took me a little, it took more than a year, but in the end they gave the Catholic Church. It took me a little while, it took me more than a year, but in the end they gave it to me. They gave me the apostasy.
But that doesn't mean, many people think that maybe a person who does apostasy or something like that is because they don't believe in God.
On the contrary, your spirituality has nothing to do with your membership in the Church? Of course. I am a deeply believing person. I believe in the Father Blue above all. I believe much more in God than the Pope. And what happens is that I am not interested, I am not satisfied with what religion is. Religion seems to me to be a delay, a shame, and a moral slavery of the human being.
I believe in a higher entity, in the Father Blue, and of course, I repeat, with more strength, than the most holy of the Catholic Church.
How does it make you feel that your books are in something called Index Opus Index, which is the list of forbidden books of our time, with the highest level of prohibition and danger for the believer?
Well, man, I feel very happy. I feel very happy. Not all writers can say the same. It is logical, because I have directly attacked the line of floatation of the Catholic Church, which is a multinational. The Catholic Church, like all churches, goes to money, to business, to power. So, for me to write books putting in question the legitimacy of those churches, of those religions,
it bothers them a lot. In El Papa Rojo, in La Gloria del Olivo, you raise issues. Juanjo, I love that book because it has to do with those intrigues, those Vatican secrets, and you raise the renunciation of a Pope, the attempt to renounce a Pope, something that we could not imagine or understand when you published that book and that was prophetic. What happened? Yes, because Ratzinger came later and resigned.
What did you think? Did you remember what you wrote? Did you expect it? I remember when I wrote that book, I didn't think at all that this could happen. But years later, when Ratzinger was elected, I remember reading the newspaper El País, and two pages were published about the election of the new Pope, Ratzinger. And I don't know why, but I had an intuition, I don't know how strong it was, that led me to make some calculations
of the hours in which the fumates had been produced. It was two different hours, I don't remember the hours now. But what I did was add those numbers and take it to the cabal and a word appeared. That word was abdication. Of course, when suddenly, when they had chosen Ratzinger Pope,
at that very moment, it had been a few hours since he had been chosen Pope, that the word abdication appeared to me. I thought I had made a mistake or that it was crazy of me, but Ratzinger abdicated.
So, in a way, you didn't expect it, but you had clues through your research.
Yes, I left everything written, with all the details. And Ratzinger abdicated. I was amazed. How could I know, at the moment when he was chosen, hours later, that this man was going to abdicate? It was impossible. Nobody knew.
It is a code that you have obtained through the Kabbalah. It is something that in several of your books you have confessed that you often practice. But what do you think of the whole thing about the secret code practice the Bible, but what do you think of the Bible's secret code? For you, the Bible is a shipwreck, but do you think it's true that it's a secret code?
Yes, I studied the Bible's secret codes in depth. There are very beautiful and interesting texts. I understand that the Bible is a narration that was made not by Moses or his descendants, but by the civilization or civilizations that adopted the name of Yahweh. And those civilizations or civilizations were the ones who built the Old Testament and who gave it to Moses.
In that text built by these non-human civilizations is where the secret codes. And going back to the topic of the papacy, what do you think of what we have experienced this 2025? Is the conclave fashionable? Are there movies? Has a Pope died? Has he been the first Jesuit Pope? A revolutionary in the Vatican?
The first American Pope arrives. How do you value, current situation in the Vatican?
I consider the Catholic Church a shipwreck. I think it's a big lie. It's a human institution that has good things, for example, the missionaries or Caritas, It is a human institution that has good things, for example, the missionaries or Caritas, but it is a human invention.
It has nothing to do with the foundation by Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus of Nazareth never founded the Catholic Church, nor did he think about it. What happens is that the human being is as it is, and when that became big and demanded a structure and hierarchy and dogmas, communities appeared and the Church was automatically created, as we understand it by the Catholic Church. But I believe that the Catholic Church is an invention of the
fourth century when Constantine made the Catholic Church official. But it has nothing to do with Jesus of Nazareth. His message was buried and is still buried.
Jesus stars in the New Testament and the Old Testament is guided by Yahweh, a God who is very similar to the Jesus that the New Testament tells us about.
Many people ask me, is Yahweh is not God, not even remotely. I took the trouble to count the dead who appear in the Old Testament, as a direct or indirect consequence of Yahweh. And a million dead come out. No one can compare me to Yahweh, to the Blue Father, because it has nothing to do with it. Yahweh was a repugnant sexist, he was a slave-owner, he was a man who murdered children, women, animals, and he was also a thief, because he kept the lands, what they call the promised land,
which had more than 30 legitimate owners from centuries and centuries before and he came with the group of Moisés and said, well, I give you this city for you, but that city has owners. It doesn't matter, they were stabbed. And in Jericho, 50,000 people were murdered. So Yahweh has nothing to do with God. Nothing.
And a somewhat controversial question, with the events that are currently taking place in Israel, in Gaza. Does Yahweh have anything to do with that?
Yes, unfortunately, yes. And it is also the cause of the conflict between the Palestinians and the Jews never being resolved, because it is a religious issue. When one reads the wars of Yahweh, one realizes how the problem has been entrenched from the beginning. When Moses takes those people out of Egypt to take them through the desert, first of all they were not Jews, which is what they
have tried to sell us. They were individuals that archaeologists and historians call Chasu. They were a mix of shepherds, nomads, bandoliers, who ended up settling in the east of the Nile Delta.
And they dedicated themselves to building cities for the Egyptians. in the east of the Nile Delta. They dedicated themselves to building cities for the Egyptians.
But first, they were not Jews. Second, they were not slaves. When Moses takes those people out of Egypt and takes them through the desert, it is when those civilizations or civilizations that take on the name of Yahweh and are the ones that guide the Chasu people in the form of chariots, columns of smoke, columns of light, etc.
Over time, they are given first the national identity, second the religion and third the land. But everything is biased from the beginning. Consequently, if this is so, the Palestinians are the legitimate heirs of those people who were the owners of the Promised Land. As a consequence, the state of Israel is a fraud.
The Jews are a fraud.
And something very important to point out is that there are many people within Israel who do not agree with this type of movement, that is, with what is happening.
Of course, nothing justifies you killing 60,000 people on the Gaza Strip. It makes no sense, unless you try to cling to your status and of course you try to kill all possible Palestinians.
Why? Because they know perfectly and better than me that they are wrong. We are talking about current affairs and there is a current affair that I would like to comment with you. The rise of satanic cults, of diabolical themes, the order of the day is on the Internet. In Mexico, more and more talk is being made about the subject. You have a book called The Rebellion of Lucifer.
Have you explored this type of subject? What do you think about these issues, Juan? Well, I think that the human being twists everything. The human being, because of his nature, his way of being, makes everything wrong, he puts barriers to everything. And in the case of Luzbel, they didn't understand what happened. They don't know who Luzbel was, or why she didn't reveal herself. History has told us everything so wrongly, that it's logical that now the satanic and the others appear.
But it has nothing to do with reality. nothing of what they are telling us, nothing.
Who was Luzbel?
Luzbel was a spirit created in perfection, something that we cannot understand well. There are two creations. One is the visible creation and the other is the invisible creation. Luzbel belonged to the invisible creation, to the creation that is the spirit. And at a certain moment, this creature, it is not that he wanted to be like God, as religion has told us, no. He asked a question. Why does the human being, when he dies, have to go through such a long period to reach paradise?
And that, apparently, he didn't like. He bothered the hierarchy, whatever. And from there, a series of planets, very few, 40, joined the position of Luzbel. And from there, Luzbel and those 40 planets, among which we are on Earth,
were isolated due to lack of judgment.
In the Lucifer Rebellion you talk a lot about that, and another issue that is also talked about a lot in relation to you is that you celebrate Christmas in the month we are in. There are only a few days left for Juan José Benítez to celebrate Christmas. Why do you celebrate Christmas in August?
Well, because all the information I have, starting with the Trojan Horse, points to that Jesus of Nazareth was born at 12 noon on August 21, minus 7. What happens is that, well, history, through a Pope who wanted to reform the Julian calendar,
has led us to the mistake that Jesus was born in the year 0, which does not exist. And from there we have a totally wrong calendar. Jesus was born in the year minus seven. We have a very important fact, which is the death of Herod the Great on March 13, minus four. If he had the children under two years killed, you go to minus six, to the year minus six.
We know that Jesus was born in August of minus seven. In August, why? Because people at that time traveled in dry season. You could not travel from October to November because it started to rain, to snow, and the roads were impassable. So the famous census was carried out in the dry season, which is when the trip is made in August.
And it is the time in which you continue to celebrate Christmas every year. And speaking of the childhood of Jesus, a fundamental figure is the Virgin Mary. The Virgin Mary, despite having a capital importance in Christianity and Catholicism, is almost not mentioned in the Bible, a little more in the Gospel according to St. Luke, but it is not mentioned much. What importance or what would you highlight about the horses of the Proia and some other research I have been able to do. Maria Mirjan, her name was Mirjan, or my point of view, brave, brave, very brave, a great person, very intelligent, but wrong. Because when an angel appears to her before giving birth and announces that she is going to get pregnant, etc. She has the idea that all the Jews of that time had,
that they were waiting for a Messiah. That Messiah was a political Messiah, liberator, military, toothbreaker. So, she had that idea because it was the idea of the Jewish people. When Jesus of Nazareth begins his public life, Mary confronts him and says,
you are the Messiah, an angel told me. And Jesus tries to make her understand, to convince her that he is not the Messiah. He does not have a political character, never, nor will He be a military man. He comes to something else, to another story, much more important. From there, Mary distances herself from her son and part of her family distance themselves from him. And it was a tremendous drama for Jesus of Nazareth,
which is not told in the canonical Gospels, because it didn't interest him. Why would you hurt the image of Mary in the canonical Gospel, saying that he didn't understand his son?
And do you think that it is the Virgin Mary who is behind the current Marian apparitions?
No.
No. Not Mary, not Jesus, not Peter, not anyone. Let's see, the Marian apparitions, what I have been able to study, and I have studied many, I have in my archives 21,000 Marian apparitions from the 9th century. 21,000. All of them, absolutely all of them, are within the pattern of the UFO phenomenon.
All of them.
For one reason or another, the beings that we know through the study of the UFO phenomenon are the ones that appear in each apparition. Transparent beings, from I don't know what, on top of a tree, etc. Another question is why they do it. Well, there are different hypotheses. It may be because they are interested in raising the faith of those people, of that area, at a certain time. Or who knows why.
But it has nothing to do with reality. Mary or Jesus never appear in any Marian apparition, although people interpret it like that. Is the Virgin of Guadalupe in Mexico is a human or non-human mystery? The mystery of the Virgin of Guadalupe corresponds to me, it is within this theme of the Marian apparitions, projected, organized, I don't know what to call it, by the beings that tripulate the non-human ships, the UFOs. When Juan Diego was on his way from Mexico,
he saw a very beautiful girl, he never spoke of the Virgin, a very beautiful girl. Then the Church came and changed the history and not only changed the history but the image that appears in the Indian tilma, in the poncho, is a much more beautiful image than the one that is currently worshipped in the basilica. The church, because it is like that and it was fashionable,
what it did was retouch the image. It put the moon, the little angel on his feet, the lightning, etc. But the original image is much more beautiful.
The first book you published on a religious topics was The Envoy. You investigated in depth everything that was worked on with the Holy Sabath by a team of NASA members. They have been talking about the Holy Sabbath for many years and a few days ago it was said that the model was a statue. They have discovered that the model used to create the Holy Sabbath was a statue. They have discovered that the model used to create the Holy Sabath is a statue. What do you think today, after so many years,
I think it was 1977 when you published the Enviado, what do you think of the Holy Sabbath today?
I still think exactly the same. First, the Holy Sabbath in Turin is authentic. It is from the first century. The image has no scientific explanation. When that group of the STURP met, analyzing the image of the Holy Saba, 200 experiments were carried out.
Pollen of plants appeared that had disappeared, that only existed in the first century, appeared in that area of Israel, where Jesus died. Second, it is a three-dimensional image. Third, it is an image that floats on the fabric. In short, 200 experiments that show that the image of the Holy Sabbath is authentic.
When the carbon-14 tests were done, what was not told to the people is that the carbon-14 was made on strips that are at one end of the canvas, which is four meters long. Those strips were sewn by the nuns in the Middle Ages after a fire. The carbon-14 tests were done on those strips and the 13th and 14th centuries came out.
But the carbon-14 was not done on the image. Thank you, Juanjo, for saying it. To conclude, we live in a society where, instead of admiring people who have spent their whole lives dedicating their time, wisdom and research, we live in a society that condemns the passage of time. That Juan José Benítez of the 70s, 80s and 90s, who invented the journalism of the mystery and who guides us, all of us who have come after him,
for having published things like GOG, for some people he is already a Juan José Benítez who has lost the North. You have never said anything bad about Gog and you keep saying that what happened to Gog has reached you like what has reached you with the Trojan horse, Juan.
Yes, let's see. I always say that I hope that the Gog issue is wrong, because it would be a real catastrophe. But as a journalist, if I get information that I understand can be interesting and useful, I have the obligation to publish it, whether I like it or not. And I will continue to do so.
August 2027.
Yes.
And you continue still receiving scientific information that indicates that in silence the space agencies are fighting against this threat.
Yes, I mean, I have information that NASA, for example, is behind the subject, they are trying to divert it or destroy it.
And I repeat, I hope I'm wrong.
There are many people who are preparing. Are you preparing in any way? Do you have your bunker?
No, I have no idea. I share the idea of Irma, my wife, that if that is true, I prefer to die in the first wave.
You have taken Juanjo many years to talk about your paranormal investigation. I'm fine, signs and signs opened up to us a Juanjo Sebenitez who has also followed those encounters with people on the other side. Do you still make pacts?
Not so much anymore, because I've done enough to realize that it was true, that it was true. What I have continued to do is investigate cases of people who say they have seen or spoken with family and friends who have died. I still do that. And in fact, I finished a few days ago, I finished one or two, the eighth book, the eighth book about life after death, without publishing.
That is, more books are coming, we know that soon we will have, I think, My Cousins, books by Juan José Benítez of the UFO phenomenon will continue to arrive, but we will also have readers to enjoy new information, both paranormal and religious. Are you going to return to these topics?
I have written six books about life after death, six, without publishing.
And about Jesus and religion? about life after death. Six. Without publishing.
And about Jesus and the religion?
There is Rayo Negro, which is a bit like the last horse of Troy, thirteen.
And we don't know for which one.
I have no idea.
Juanjo, after so many years, do you still have that magic faith?
I have more than faith, I have confidence. It is more important than faith. For me, confidence in the Blue Father is more important than faith. Because faith is believing in what you can't see. But that, deep down, is stupid. than faith. Because faith is believing in what you can't see. But that, deep down, is stupid.
I prefer to have confidence, that is,
well,
I agree with that friend, with the blue paddy, I have confidence in him.
What do you have to do?
I have to write what is left to be published in the archives, there is a lot of information, especially the UFO subject, and little else. And then, if I can, I will enjoy it.
What would you say to those young people who are looking for the mystery on social media from the most important teacher of journalism, who is still alien to the internet and technology?
Look, the only thing I can tell you is that if you are interested in the topic of the UFO phenomenon, of life after death or mysteries in general, simply keep studying, keep investigating, keep reading, because that will help you to a very, very, very important thing, which is to open your mind. The worst thing that happens to this humanity, to all humanity that is now involved in two wars is that it has its mind closed. They don't see beyond their nose.
All they care about is money and power. That is a mistake.
Thank you very much, Juanjo, for these minutes,
but above all for your life, for your example, for what you represent for all of us who feel that spark,
just like you when we discovered UFOs,
and you gave us a path to follow. You were the first one to leave. I'm sure it was the questioner who asked this question, and life has given you the answer.
Well, thank you very much.
Thank you from the bottom of my heart, Juanjo. Thank you all. When one loves the sea, and is also a fish swimming against the current, he lives many moments of loneliness. In loneliness, in turn, he lives sadness, but treasures such as the certainty of providence, the afraid of silence, then one begins to see with the eyes of the soul and situations occur to him that have no logical explanation, which make him understand that in
this life logic is not as important as the heart. In one of my first tasteless as a journalist of El Misterio, a teenager named Lourdes Gómez was told by her friend and teacher Javier Sierra that she should always have a copy of the book Mágica Fe by J. J. Benítez. I confess that the book Mágica Fe by J. J. Benítez has accompanied me in many moments of my life. Bright moments, yes, but also in the darkest.
In the worst moments, Magica Fe has been my salvation. And Magica Fe was the one that took me, on this day of August, to the breaking point, to meet again with the Master among Masters,
with the man who invented that authenticity, that dignity, and that certainty that today accompany me as a journalist of the unknown. Noche de lluvia and Lourdes Gómez could never have existed without that teenager who one day devoured libros de Juan José Benítez y supo, como tantos otros, que quería dedicar su vida a lo desconocido.
Feliz y larga vida, JJ Benítez. Haberte encontrado nuevamente en el rompido, haber visto en persona otra vez tu mirada tranquila e ilusionada. Son un regalo de los que hacen que la vida valga la pena. Lo digo aquí porque quiero decirlo en vida. Lo cuento aquí como un testimonio y un testamento antes de que sea tarde. Como tú hiciste en Mágica Fe a few years ago. You didn't wait until the end to create that book,
which is the wisest will I've ever known. You made it part of your contract. Use this video as a tribute and thanks to the journalist I've admired the most in my life. JJ Benitez, thank you, thank you, thank you so much. Remember that I am here to get really wet, that I am here to tell you what I have discovered
in my travels and in my research. My name is Lourdes Gómez, and this is what I would tell you on a rainy night. and this is what I would tell you on a rainy night. See you next time.
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