EXCLUSIVA: "Le pido DISCULPAS a la MADRE de mi hija": Nodal | Un día una voz

I'm not a problem. It's my greatest virtue and greatest flaw.

What was your first love?

My first love?

Did you have a crush on her?

She's the only person who has.

What would you say has changed your life the most? Being a father, marriage?

The most? I've never been afraid of dying. Do you regret not being able to spend more time with your daughter? Lamentas no poder compartir con tu hija más tiempo. Para poder dejar claro todo, siento que lo correcto es retomar lo que dice mi ex en un podcast. Este podcast, y para serte bien sincero, ya hemos terminado seis veces antes.

Angela no le rompió el corazón a mi hija. Angela no existía en todo lo que duró mi relación. Las rupturas previas, era como, yo no tengo ganas de ser la mujer que tú necesitas. I was like, I don't want to be the woman you need. And my heart broke when he said that. Like, look for someone else, just don't find out.

That's how it was? How do you contain that?

There's something that really, really weighs on me.

What did Kazoo say to him? I mean, you can't go out after this interview and say, No, Dale is lying. You're destined to have a relationship with Kazoo for the rest of your life. Estas destinado a tener una relación con casu por el resto de tu vida que paso cuando casu te dijo esto embarazada El que tu hables conmigo es parte de una estrategia de corazón

Even por aquí si muy circuito

ese su casa familia es nuestro garcio ya y tienen otras casas supongo en la ciudad de mexico Yes, we do. And do you have other houses in Mexico City?

Angela, you have other houses, and so do I.

But where do you live? Where do you anchor? Here is where we anchor the most.

Sometimes we go to Zacatecas, but here is where we anchor. And do you like it? It's very quiet. I don't change Mexico for anything. The food, everything. The warmth and everything. But here it's very quiet.

You can tell.

And in the house I don't have neighbors, I don't have anyone to bother me.

You have the forest, right?

Yes, yes, yes. There are many acres so I don't get bored.

Exactly. And is your studio there?

I'm doing my studio there.

Ok. And where are you now? I'm planning on not going out. But you travel a lot, right Dal?

I travel a lot. I travel a lot. This month has been the most relaxed and it's the month I focused on making music. Really? It's been the most relaxed month and it's the month I focused on making music. Oh yeah? Yeah. I set a goal.

Let's see.

I talked about it with my work team, which is still very bad.

Why? What was the goal?

I'm bad at using social media. I don't understand TikTok or anything like that, and now it's the most important platform for music, after Spotify.

After Spotify.

Let's say that's where all the engagement comes from, so that they listen to your song, to promote a song. So I told them a story, I told them I'm going to release two songs a month. And apart from that, I'm going to make a trend for each song.

The point is that I'm still working on the song, thanks to you coming all the way to Texas.

Thank you for coming all the way to Texas. Thank you. I'll be able to finish the song before you. Great, great.

Is it going to be simple?

Yes, it's going to be simple. It's going to be simple for two months. That's my... from here to October.

Okay.

So, I've been sharing it with the fans and they've been feeling bad. I haven't been able to... it's not good, I can't do it. It's complicated. What do you feel? I have something with social media. It's not so much that I feel something with social media. It's more like... Normally, artists don't go to the studio and choose the songs. They have a label that tells them what to do and what not to do.

Or producers that have a bunch of songs ready.

And that's not your case. That's not my case. I have to know, no. Or producers who already have a bunch of songs ready. And it's not your case.

It's not my case. I have to start from scratch. If I compose the song or choose the song, I'm there with my musicians, I put them together, I put together a proposal of 10 songs, to see which one they feel more.

It's a whole process. Then I'm producing everything, the musicalization, then I'm mixing with the engineer.

So you get into everything.

I get into everything. So that takes a lot of time, and my focus is on the musical, and not on dancing.

Social media also demands a lot of time. Yes, right? They do demand a lot of time.

To understand it. I think that once you understand it, it flows more,'s the truth. To understand it. I think that once you understand it,

it flows more. To understand it, to be in contact with your audience.

They demand time.

Yes, they do.

I left the wave, or the generation where sharing was in the show and in social media you told them what you were doing.

Even though you're Generation Z, you should dominate that.

Yes, right.

I have an old soul.

You have an old soul. Hey, Nodal, I was wondering when you came here, when do you think this change happened from the guy who sings beautifully to the phenomenon in which you became?

Well, it's that it happened since my first song, Adela. I could say that since the first video I uploaded to social media, I never thought I would dedicate myself completely to being a singer. I thought I would be a trumpeter. Everything pointed that way. When I uploaded my first video singing,

it was in Ensenada. I was living in Ensenada. I went with my cell phone and my guitar. And from there, because I would like to say that it was a gradual growth.

No, it wasn't exponential.

I went to sleep and the next day I had 80,000 shares, which on Facebook was not something usual at that time. And the numbers, but the comments. I think that's where the phenomenon started.

What was this first song?

Te Falle.

Te Falle.

Composed by you. Composed by me. In fact, it's funny because Te Falle I already had the chorus ready, which was what I uploaded, but I didn't have the intro, or the pre-chorus.

I didn't have the structure. I hadn't finished composing it. It was just the chorus.

Yes, yes.

And that was... Yes, it was...

Suddenly.

I fell asleep and woke up. And thank God, everything went well.

Why did you think you were going to be a trumpeter? You come from a family... Your father is a musician, right?

My father is a musician, my mother... All my family is musicians.

Who else?

My uncle sings, my aunt... My mom's brothers sing. My mom's dad understands the guitar well. My grandma doesn't sing, but she cooks deliciously. That's my grandma's strength. On my dad's side,

my grandpa's whole grandma's strength. My dad's strength is that my whole family is musicians, not singers. I had an uncle, I have an uncle, a singer, he was in Los Picayentes del Rancho, he was the vocalist.

That's your uncle?

That's my uncle, yes.

And your father, who also worked in a group?

He also had his bands and was a trumpeter.

So you were born listening to music?

I was born listening to music.

And the art of music, because you sang and played instruments.

You lived and breathed music from the moment you woke up until you went to sleep.

It was music. You are the oldest of your siblings.

The oldest of my siblings, yes.

You have another brother and a sister. Yes. el mayor de tus hermanos. Tienes otro hermano y tienes una hermana. OK. Y entonces tú componías. Para componer, tú eres un hombre, me parece que vives la vida, o por lo menos es lo que parecen tus canciones, de manera muy intensa.

Parece que la intensidad es tu zona de conforto.

Sí.

¿No? Y eso pasa también desde chiquito, desde joven, adolescente. It's a very comfortable zone. And that happens since you were a kid, since you were a teenager. How do you remember your teenage years? Because when you feel things so much, you don't get over it so easily.

I enjoyed all my stages.

I don't want to lie to you.

But it hurts.

Yes, of course.

When you feel things so. But it hurts. Yes, of course. When you feel things a lot, it hurts.

Look, people say I'm a womanizer.

And you're not?

I was born with a bigger problem than being a womanizer. What is it? I was born with a soul that was in love.

How beautiful. That's beautiful. I don't think that's a problem.

It's my biggest virtue and my biggest flaw. Okay. Que bonito, eso es bonito. Yo no creo que eso sea un problema. Es mi mayor virtud y mi mayor defecto. Yo soy como, o es blanco o es negro. No me gusta el gris. Okay. Me gusta eso. Entonces desde chico, siempre que entregaba mi corazón,

hasta cuando había un desamor, lo disfrutaba. ¿Por qué? Porque creo que el aprendizaje que te deja cada persona, I didn't like it. Why? Because I think the learning that each person leaves you, each situation, turning it into art, I don't know. It's like doing a work of art from the gut or from the love.

What do you do better? Where do you do better?

The heartbreak. Yes. Yes, I don't do romantic songs. No? I've composed very few romantic songs.

You were born with a heart like this and a soul like this, but also, well, a little broken, right? The heart is breaking.

I don't know, I feel the heart is healthy, everything is healthy.

You see, there is a certain addiction, to falling in love, because it is something that is enjoyed a lot. The truth is that falling in love and being in love is something that is enjoyed. It is so beautiful.

I feel that the most beautiful thing that can happen to you in this life is to be able to share with someone. Because life is beautiful when you're alone. I've enjoyed a lot of solitude.

When you're chosen.

When you're chosen, it's very beautiful. But I like to share. I feel that sharing with someone feelings, emotions, the beautiful little things in life, I think that's the most beautiful thing that can happen to you, to fall in love and share. Sentimientos, emociones, las cositas bonitas de la vida. Creo que es lo más bello que te puede pasar enamorarte y compartir. Compartir.

¿Cuál fue tu primer amor? Así que digas, híjoles.

Mi primer amor, yo creo que a los, ¿qué será? ¿14 años?

No, si tienes el alma vieja. Así de amor a amor, de me quiero cortar las venas por esta morrita. I'm going to cry. I'm going to cry. I'm going to cry. I'm going to cry.

I'm going to cry. I'm going to cry. I'm going to cry. I'm going one that's been broken up. You've broken up with the others? It's not pleasant to say it, but yes.

No, no, no. Because you know what? I think the one who ends the relationship suffers as much as the one who ends it. It's equally painful. Maybe there's a little bit of ego there.

And also, I think it's born from love, to separate. It comes from love. It comes from love.

Why?

Because it's for a mutual good. When something isn't working, when something doesn't go well, I think the bravest thing you can do is to show it, put the cards under the table, talk without breaking anything, before everything breaks.

When you tell me, I was born with a soul in heart and a soul in love, do you fall in love easily?

No.

No?

Does it cost you?

I don't fall in love easily. I've always been proud of every couple I've shared. Even before I've been in a started dating any public figure, you could always see my pictures of my girlfriends, ex-girlfriends, and the couple I was sharing with. I've always felt proud to be with someone.

And if I feel that pride, it's because I see a lot of beautiful things in the person and I think it's worth it. When someone is worth it. Being in love is complicated's beautiful about a person. And I think it's worth it. When someone is worth it. Being in love is complicated.

It's a job.

You can't even breathe. Yes. But it's really cool. It's really cool to be in love. It's really cool to be in love. Love is beautiful.

And the heartbreak.

You can make a lot of money with it.

I think it's a good job.

Does it help you with therapy, catharsis?

Totally, being honest with the role you're playing is something that connects with anyone. When you speak from your most vulnerable side, and you show it, if you realize, in my shows, there are super macho men, with a cowboy hat,

Crying.

And crying with my songs, and singing, Te fallé, me dejé llevar. It's like, they show their most vulnerable side, because it's honesty, right?

One thing is what you show, and another thing is what is felt. So, I think I work in a pretty nice business, right? Where you transform in art, feelings, either of love or pain.

Yes, what you do is very nice, and you have a privileged voice. That's why I don't know why you wanted to be a trumpeter, or you thought you were going to be a trumpeter. I mean, didn't your mom and dad tell you, you have a spectacular voice?

Yes, I mean, as a father they always pushed me, they always gave me a hard time. My mom more than my dad. My dad was like...

More demanding?

No, my dad was the mega-regional fanatic of the Mexican regional music. When I started singing, I sang bachata, rock, pop songs. He didn't like those genres. For him, they were other idols. So he demanded a little more. He said, you lack balls to sing.

And that, for me, as a teenager, was like, what are you trying to tell me?

Exactly.

So my dad was a little tougher, but I've seen his pride. He was much more closed before, now he's more open. I've seen his pride in his eyes and now with her words.

And your mother did tell you to sing.

Yes, my mom would tell me, you inherited the best of my voice. And the truth is, all my voice color, all the different shades, melismas, many things are hers. I took singing classes, solfeggio classes, music classes. melismas, muchas cosas son de ella. Yo tuve clases de canto, clases de solfeo, clases de música, entonces sí fue trabajado. ¿Desde chiquito? Sí, porque pues como en mi casa daban clases para otras personas, yo íbame a sentarme,

era lo más entretenido que tenía que poder hacer en el día.

¿Tu mamá daba clases?

Mi mamá, mis tíos, mi papá también est was also a teacher at a university.

So you actually took lessons all day?

Yes, all day.

The ones that were for you.

But it was also a lot of work because it was every day, without exception. It was the bread of every day. And really, music was always that bond. I really liked being able to transmit the lyrics, the emotions. I don't know, I fell in love. I fell in love with that part of the music.

And now it's a big business for you too, right? You're a big company.

Thank God, yes. Thank God, yes.

And doesn't the floor suddenly get lost? We talked a little about this last time, that I was telling you, The repent a poco a blabamos de esto la verdad que yo te decía tan joven tan exitoso tan exitoso en muchos sentido no este artisticamente professionalmente pero también económicamente

desde el lado económico Nessie necesita nacer en caborca son Sonora to understand the soul of Bravia.

Explain it to us.

I left Caborca, Sonora, but Caborca, Sonora never left me with the mentality of growing up. I mean, when I hit my first song, I wasn't like, ready. The song is already number one and I'm playing everywhere.

It was a challenge.

It was a challenge. And then the second and the third, I was always working, I still work since I started. There is not a year where I don't do less than 80 dates, for example.

In the pandemic, but it was not for that. Every year, if I wasn't on the radio, on television, in the studio, in concerts, I think there's a constant. And the mentality, because the mentality was never, ah, I want to be an artist, that's it, I want to be famous,

no, that's it, no, it's... Or I want to make a lot of money to buy everything I want. I'm going to retire once I buy this. It was never like that. It was never like that because of the economy. The economy makes it even tastier. But for me, it's connecting with my fans.

When you step on the stage, you have so many looks, so many stories. And they didn't come to your show because the door is open. They're there to feel you.

They can leave at any moment, but they paid a ticket to go see you.

They saved. I know how much a ticket costs. I had to go see a couple of my idols and I know how much a ticket costs. I know how much it is to jump a fence to go to a concert, and instead of paying the ticket, buy a michelada, for example. So, I don't know, I feel very privileged that I've had the chance, but I think it doesn't go from the economic point of view.

I think it's more about an emotional change. Life, if life is changing, let's say that all of this if all of this suddenly, the tension and all this part that is never asked for and is given, that is what is complex.

I think I have had to modify my life a lot, I have had to work on my personality, my mentality and everything, so that just as my music came out, I can also come out as a human being.

Hey, it also matures faster, right? Because you see the world and...

Little surprises you.

Like that?

Yes, I think...

What surprises you still?

The smallest things. When I meet someone genuine like you, for example, that surprises me. Of all the interviews I've done, the one I enjoyed the most, with all due respect to everyone.

If you want, I'll delete that.

I love the genuine, organic, what you feel from the heart. I like the everyday things. Going out to the patio, make a coffee, paint. For example, my friend Mark, I was on the phone with him and he said, I'm making a wallet here. I'm like, it helps me, you'll see, you'll see.

Then you try it, I'm making a wallet, working with leather, etc. I like that. I feel like they's part of the daily life.

And that you also feel settled.

Yes, meeting a good person impresses me.

Really.

Have you been touched by a lot of whores?

Enough. Enough.

It's hard, right? It's hard. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie. I'm not going to lie.

I'm not going to lie. It has to. It has to. You have to. Yes, let's say you put on an armor for life. It still hits you, but you have armor.

It costs them more work.

It costs them more work.

It costs them more work to hit, but yes.

What would you say has changed your life the most? Being a father, marriage?

I think what landed me the most, put my feet on the ground, was when I became a father, marriage. I think the moment I landed on the ground was when I became a father. I lived a rockstar life. Rock and roll.

We know what a rocker does.

Never enough to be affected by a show.

So you couldn't perform.

Yes, yes.

Always from the most healthy point. I wouldn't say I was partying. I was never seen partying after the awards. I was always working. I had my breaks and everything. I mean that when I say enjoying life.

And rockstar.

More in private, you mean.

More in private, yes.

In private and without so much danger, so to speak.

I know.

When my daughter was born, I had never been afraid of dying, because I have always lived what I want to live. When my daughter was born, I said, okay, there's a responsibility I can't take until my health is really... I mean, when I'm done with the story.

It was the first real responsibility for me.

You stop being the most important person, right?

Yes.

There's someone else who's more important to you than you.

Yes.

I understood that I can't be without her. I understood that I want to leave the path... ...cemented. So that she can make the best decisions. I've... I've been through a lot and I have experience in different aspects that I think will help her when she grows up.

But yeah.

And you were still with your mom? Yes. You were still with her?

I was still with her. And do you regret not being able to spend more time with your daughter? Su mamá. juntos no sé cómo fue cuando estuvieron juntos viajaban juntos donde viajamos juntos sobre todo cuando no está embarazada después duró los primeros meses de embarazo todavía podía viajar ella tenía un poco de shows hizo como una gira aquí en méxico me tocó acompañarla y bueno fue muy difícil porque yo I had to train her. And well, it was very difficult because I worked sometimes Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

And the fixed hours were Friday, Saturday, Sunday. So, just take a look. It's 12 hours on the lowest. To get to Argentina. I think there's a 6-8 hour difference, depending on where you are.

Yes, of course.

So you lose a day of going and another day of going. What I could see was two days, maximum three days.

Even being with your mom.

Even being with my daughter's mom. So it was very complex. People think, ah, Nodal must be like us, that we finish at the office, we go and attend at home. No, it was super complex. It's a job that you do. It's a job, it's a profession.

It's an art, no doubt. But it's extraordinary. It's different. It's a different routine. It's a different routine.

And there's no private...

There's no privilege that makes you teleport and be here.

More private plane you have. You already have a private plane, right? No, no. I don't have a private plane. And there's no private jet that... There's no privilege that makes you teleport and I'm already here.

The most private jet you have... You already have a private jet, right?

No, no, no. Of course not.

Of course not. I also do my research. But, well, you should be very proud, man. And not just anyone can... They are... They are things. Some people say they are toys, but in your case, it's a tool for work.

You go, you come, you travel a lot.

Yes, I travel a lot, but I don't have a private plane.

Well, you rent it.

I rent it, exactly.

Good idea.

I think it's a good idea. I think it's a good idea. But of course, it's a bit like that. But then, how did you... You didn't live together for a long time, the three of you. You didn't spend a lot of time together.

No, we didn't spend a lot of time together. As I told you, it was very complex. I had to make those trips. The same year I was... The first year of dating my daughter's mother.

It's not unnamable. We can say her name, but... She's your daughter's mother, actually. Because she's not yours anymore. Yeah. I say that about my children's father.

He's the father of my children. I was 92 days pregnant that year. It was crazy.

Crazy.

92 days and being in the studio and all that. And the way we worked was, we're going to try to be with each other as long as you can. I'll be with you as long as I can. I'll go to you, or together, or whatever. The dynamic was to make our bubble.

Because it wasn't easy, really. When I started my relationship with my ex-partner, she... Did you see the podcast my ex-partner did?

No.

It would have been good. I did some research, but not so much. No. Okay. ¿Te refieres a un podcast reciente? No, no, no. Ah. Fue la aclaración que ella dio de cómo para ella pasaron las cosas y cómo fueron las cosas, ¿no?

Okay.

Bueno. ¿Tienes prisa, no? Aquí es una conversación sin límite de tiempo y sin límite de tequila. No te preocupes.

Sí.

¡Ja, ja, ja! We brought enough. Very good. And then?

Okay. The thing is that... To be able to make everything clear, I feel that the right thing to do is to take back what my ex says in a podcast. Because everything has strength. It's not a lie that it's been like a mega-media thing

and everything.

But it comes from art.

The three parts that have the power of the word and the power to talk about the relationship is my ex-partner and me.

Nothing else.

Nothing else.

Of course.

So in mid-October, she did a podcast. I felt really lost because our relationship was fine. That's what I understood from our conversations.

That was in October 2023.

Yes.

No?

We're in 2024, right?

No, we're in 2025.

Oh, the devil.

Okay.

Yes, in October 2024.

Okay.

In October 2024, she does a podcast where she feels free and I think it's valid to express your feelings. She says she did it for our daughter, for her family and for her. I felt lost because in the conversations, everything was calm.

Between you and her?

Between her and me. There was no specific topic. I didn't talk about the breakup or anything like that. Because in what I talked about with my mother and daughter, we never agreed on a topic. Like, yes, you do an interview, I do an interview, or we do an interview together. No.

For us, it was always...

It was something between you two? Yes. You didn't have to communicate it.

Of course. And for us, an image was stronger together. An image says more than a thousand words. Because you're inventing a lot of things and so on. So, what we had agreed on was, I'm going to get closer to a show of yours, at the Auditorio Nacional,

then it was at thesing, in Madrid. So up until then, everything was fine, which was relatively soon before October. I didn't know when I got lost, because I was never told. I was never asked, like, hey, is it true what's being said here? Nothing.

The link or the communication together was always transparent. So this podcast is supposed to be a reaction to an interview with my wife. And I don't know if you've seen my wife's interview, which is in English. She was nominated for the Grammy American, and the interview was to talk about that, the Grammy American.

And they ask her. But they ask her, it's like, hey, what do you have to tell about all this that's happening? I'm going to go back to what she said. There are a lot of people talking about how things happened. I'm enjoying my life. I turn off my cell phone. My problems are over. We're all adults here.

No heart was broken.

Because she was in that understanding. That no heart had been broken.

And I was also in that understanding. I was also in that understanding. No se había roto ningún corazón. Y yo también estaba en ese entendido. Estaba también en ese entendido. Nosotros terminamos la relación el 8 de mayo. Y hubo mucha confusión. Porque iba a ser el día del padre para los gringos. ¿En qué? ¿Junio o Julio?

Junio.

Para los americanos.

Ajá, ajá.

En Junio o Julio. ¿En cuándo es? Junio. for the Americans. In June, July. When was it? In June. So, I finish on May 8th. I still do interviews even when I was already finished. And to be honest,

we have already finished six times before. The 8th was the definitive for me.

But none of the two did it in public. Just between you, El 8 fue la definitiva para mí. Pero ninguno de los dos lo hicieron público. Simplemente entre ustedes esto ya se acabó.

El 8 de mayo se acabó. Para ella, para mí, se acabó. No hay más. En enero, febrero, marzo, abril. En abril hubo una previa. Yo estaba viendo el podcast y re and I reacted to Adela.

I went out to do a live broadcast, all pissed off, because it made me very unfair. I feel like there was a lot of silence and nothing was clear, and there was contradiction in many parts. And if it was because of my daughter, I think there's a big distortion with what my daughter is going to see.

No.

So, yes, I had a problem. Yes, in truth, because if there was all this media...

Over it.

Over it and so on, what came out, the weight of each word sheima, y demás pasando. Lo que salía el peso de cada palabra de ella era el absoluto. Y si todo estaba bien en ese momento, como no entendí la razón, el motivo. Supuestamente surgió de la entrevista

de que dio mi esposa. En ningún momento se habló sobre los sentimientos de ella. Yo no, si es que hay una an interview, I don't find it.

Okay.

Please look for an interview where we talk about my ex-girlfriend's feelings. We never talked about it. The message when we broke up in June was this story is new to us, we meet again, we continue this with a lot of love, to love each other, to value each other more. Period.

When Angela was doing an interview for the Grammys, all she said was, there are a lot of people talking, I don't feel like I have to say anything about it right now, I'm fine, the three of us are working,

which is a reality. We're working for a common good, which is my daughter's, in that sense, on a specific day. And here we're all adults, and it's true, Angela no le rompió el corazón a mi hija.

Solamente hay dos responsables y es mi expareja y yo. En la historia con mi expareja nunca entró Angela en el radar. Nunca estuvo presente. Nunca hubo un mensaje o hablarnos. Nada. No existía.

Angela no existía en todo lo que duró mi relación.

¿Que duró cuánto?

Casi dos años.

Y fue, supongo, una linda relación mientras duró.

Mmm.

Fue una muy linda relación.

Yo te lo digo.

Complicada a lo mejor, pero...

Yo nací muy, muy enamorado. Muy enamorado. Y entrego todo y doy todo. I was born very, very in love. Very in love. And I give everything. Really, really. I would love to, because I know I'm the one who loves the most. I would love to be the one who loves the most too.

They are two different things. I would like to have those two parts. When the breakup happened, and everything else... Let me go back to one part. She mentions that... She insinuated that we made her part of our plan.

A monstrous plan. That we insinuated in an interview or that we said or did that she was part of a monstrous plan. There is no interview that is worth it in our private conversations, never, neither. I did not understand where all that came from.

But besides, what a monstrous plan plan, anyway. Yes, which one?

So, for me, the plan... The previous ruptures, what came out of our mouths, they weren't screams, they weren't bad words, it was always all very eloquent.

And one of the suggestions was if I don't want to be the woman you need, find another woman. And as long as I don't find out, everything will be fine. That's how it was?

That's how it was. In one of the previous ones. To finish.

But did he find out? Did he find out there was another woman?

Oh no, no, no, sorry, that was prior to May 8th. We were in the last five months breaking up, it didn't happen. On and off, on and off, they would come back, they would come back. It didn't take more than two days, one day, and everything would be fixed. Because we have a daughter, we have a daughter. Especially because of the bond that you had with your daughter

or because there was still something between you two?

I honestly didn't want to let the relationship die and I wanted to be present every day for my daughter.

I really wanted it to work. You wanted to make a family.

And I'm aware that the other part of me wanted that too. We both fought a lot for that. The chemistry was over.

It couldn't be done.

It couldn't be done. The chemistry was over. We were like roomies. We were friends. Very, very good friends. But we were no longer a couple. That spark didn't exist anymore. That passion didn't exist anymore. Nothing came out of our mouths But I know where I'm a spare. I don't exist is a cheese pan insisting a separation. Yeah, no, it's not the nostril. Oh, can I?

know that for a demo

It's my daughter. It's do or conuna relacion. I see no sorry talk

You mean the stage you know you know story person in Feliz and I didn't can I am a Feliz amy Is you know care to me? He had Chris cap pensando que esto es el amor I'm very happy. I don't want my daughter to grow up thinking that this is love.

That's not love.

That's not love. And it broke my heart when she told me that. She said, look for someone else, as long as I don't find out. I was like, what is this? This is not what I was looking for. By May 8th, it was all over.

They made the decision, they agreement, and it was over.

Yes.

We had been together for months. Our relationship was hard because... Also in the interview, he says that we put her in the middle of the majority, the morbid, and that... No, since I started dating the first public person, everything that has to do with relationships is public.

It's like...

The first public person, sorry, was Belinda?

It was Belinda, yes.

Very public too.

From that relationship, all relationships are mega-hyper-public. And she knew that part, right? That we were just getting out, in Guatemala, we were flirting. And photos and videos came out, and they had already made a story about us and so on. That was what really hurt the relationship. I don't know if people forget, but there were some really bad comments.

Negative comments and comparisons constantly happening. That affected the relationship a lot. In fact, when my daughter was born, the media talked about horrible things. But the media and all kinds of things. Comparing her to your relationship, which was even before. but in the media and all kinds of media. So...

Comparing her to your previous relationship.

Exactly, yes. So it was very hard for her as a woman, for that part.

And for you too.

To see her suffer and not be able to do anything. Because it's like... What can you do? We are singers, we are composers, artists, we make music. There is no instruction that tells you as an artist what to do. There is no manual.

You don't come with a manual that tells you, look, this is it. Fulfilling the needs seems to be the right thing to do. So, yes, I think that... When she mentioned that she wanted to leave the media world, I don't know if it's because she doesn't live in Mexico, but she's always been there, in social media. She was there, in social media, she was there, very present.

On May 8th we finished, I and Angela started dating. On May 14th I saw Angela for the first time.

For the first time, not in her life, but for the first time,

because you already knew each other for many years, right? We had never shared a context where we weren't...

Professionals.

Interviews, yes, or professionals. In the pandemic, we had something very beautiful, something beautiful, we connected. It was talking on the phone all the time, and she would cook, and someone would come, and blah, blah, blah someone was coming, and...

And that relationship didn't work. I was very afraid... of everything, of handling everything. It was my first time that I was getting involved with a public person. And I was looking at her, and she was a girl,

she was also my age. I was already 20 years old,

and she... How old was she? She's a girl, she's the same age. I was 20 years old.

And she?

She was 16 years old, so I was... 26, 27, 28, 29... I was 22 years old and she was 16.

So how old is she now?

21.

She's very young.

She's very young.

She's very small. It's very small. It's very small.

Yes.

It's the chain.

And, um...

That... That has to affect a relationship, right, Christian? I mean, how do you keep a relationship of love solid?

Right?

With all this that happens around you, it's very difficult. solida una relación de amor no Con todo esto que pasa a tu alrededor es muy difícil es muy difícil porque lo de pronto también hay reproches este cosas que pasan a tu alrededor que afectan la relación

Si yo siento que es bien complejo bien complejo y en su momento No, she just into case is being complete. Oh being complete. Oh, yeah in some mental In the toast are Concorazón Alma mente cuerpo para para me esposa

We still have a soul muy mal a mi me lo conto y de verdad yo Pues tengo una hija casi no es una de toda I have a daughter, almost, no, one your age. But still, I imagine my daughter suffering for that and going through those moments. There's a lot of noise, a lot of noise all around you, a lot of noise, very know that last team. You may look on top. I mean, I know that last team. You may look on top. I mean, I know that last team.

You may look on top. I mean, I know that last team.

You may look on top.

I mean, I know that last team. You may look on top. I mean, I know that last team. You may look on top. I mean, I know that last team. How does it affect the relationship, Cristian? It's difficult.

I don't see the part of the hate as something personal. I see it more as a projection of each person, that identifies or not.

Right?

But now it's very easy with 15 minutes, 15 seconds of TikTok. People don't go't watch full interviews. People just see, ah, ta-ta-ta-ta-ta, that's it, information, ta-ta-ta-ta. For people, it's 15 seconds. For us, it's our life.

Right?

I think the hardest part of carrying is if everything you say was real. Look. I think if she had done everything that she's said she did, that she made fun of my ex or did things...

Well, if she made fun of him, I guess you would be the first to protest.

I wouldn't be with her to begin with. I wouldn't be with someone who doesn't respect my daughter or my relationship.

Of course.

But she... I really take off my hat.

It's...

for her age. She has a big heart, but also a lot of head. And she has never made me feel bad, not even for my past. She has never reproached me. Never, nothing, nothing, nothing.

She's there. She's been patient. I haven't spoken because...

I haven't spoken because... No, no. and that speaks more than a thousand words, that the bond is good. And after that, I didn't speak because I was very angry. You were angry.

Yes.

And you could say things that you didn't want to come out of your mouth.

Of course. And I want this more to close a cycle than to keep going around it. That's why I want to clarify the times, how things happened, how the situation was and so on, to cut everything off, because the doors are open. I'm talking about one of the involved parts. And if he did it for my daughter, he did it for his family and for her,

it's fine, but the perception was quite blurred. And it's not spoken clearly, and it's not spoken with the truth.

But he also hurt, right? It hurt emotionally, psychologically, all kinds of things. I'm not saying anything that she didn't tell me. And she did it publicly, too. And I'll share something I've always thought about.

I've never thought that a third person would break up with a relationship.

Never.

I think that when a third person comes, it's because the relationship was broken. It was over. And many times, because I've been there too, and I think we've all been there, you fight to continue a relationship that matters to you. You know? It matters to you for different reasons. It can be your daughter, it can be whoever, your daughter's mother,

you care about the relationship. But sometimes you can't continue. You can't continue. And that's why I think there's never a third person in a discord, No se puede seguir. No se puede seguir. Yo por eso pienso que nunca hay un tercero en discordia. Nunca hay un tercero que rompa un matrimonio. Nunca hay un tercero que rompa una relación. Para que hubiera un tercero,

la relación tuvo que estar necesariamente rota. ¿Me explico?

Si, te explicas.

Porque si tú tienes una buena relación, es muy poco probable que ten amor is the alien mass

Clara no

See lo entiendo lo comparto. Yo si creo que es muy importante Terminar una relacion antes enamorado por al cualquier pijisquito como alguien me está Alguien me está enamorando Creo que a partir de ella ya abre puerta a la sinceridad I think that from that moment on, you open the door to sincerity, out of respect for love, out of respect for the other person, out of respect for everything. There is something that really, really weighs on me. And I also apologize to my daughter's mother.

I did want to protect my relationship with Angela.

To keep it private. is to keep my relationship with Angela. Keeping it in the private sphere.

In the private sphere. That was always the intention. But she knows the context. Where there are always photos or videos, and it also seems unfair to me that I have to not be can't live a life.

I'm going to eat pizza. I always wanted to take care of his pain and sadness. Let the months pass and so on. There was something that was...

Determining.

Determining. And it was that I married Angela in Rome on May 29th. I wanted... I saw the storm that was coming. I had already spoken to my father-in-law.

I told him,

Father-in-law, I want to formalize a relationship. Oh, because I'll tell you. Let's see. Since the first time we met, outside of the professional world and everything, we connected in such a beautiful way that I...

When I finished my shows in Guadalajara, I went there.

How did you connect with her? How was it?

Well, I found a more mature Angela.

She wasn't the girl.

And really, before the pandemic, I always saw her as super beautiful, talented, with a lot of respect, and she was mute. There was no flirting, there was nothing likeuto. No existía un coqueteo, no existía algo así. No, no, no, no. Todo pasó en la pandemia. Cuando le mandé la canción a mi suegro para que la aprobara, la de Dime Cómo Quieres,

ahí fue donde surgió el romance con ella. ¿No? Ahí fue donde dije, wow, está bien bonito esto, por miedos, por, for love, for everything. For dog.

For dog, exactly.

For dog.

We couldn't make that work. I'm sure she would have waited for me, we would have found a way. I couldn't wait any longer. We ended that relationship. We never spoke again.

In the whole time until May 14th, 2024.

Four years have passed.

Four years have passed. We didn't speak.

Nothing.

She sang with me in the forozo.

Did she send you messages? No, nothing.

Pictures or something?

No, no, no. Ah, she said it because lo de fan de su relación. No, ella, eso fue falso, Adela, el fan de su relación. Son detalles que...

Ella me lo dijo, eh.

Se hizo mega viral el fan de su relación. Que fue falso. Hicieron una telenovela, todo, que se llamaba fan de su relación. Este... And they liked those characters. I think they liked that father-in-law, that Christian, that Angela, right? They liked that ex of mine, the character, how they were painted. And from there, it comes.

All the characters are very badly accommodated. Really. All the characters are distorted. So, on May 29th, my heart felt it, finishing an event on Ensenada, I said, you know what, let's get out of here, I want to walk with you,

I don't want to be photographed, I want to be private, everything, keep this, and... We arrived in Rome. That whole experience was beautiful, it was an adventure,

you could breathe love, you could feel love everywhere. I felt alive, alive and happier than ever.

You hadn't felt that in a long time.

Not even a long time. Like I had never loved, or found love for the right reasons.

I understand.

I gave everything. I called a jewelry store, a friend... So it was all like that? Nothing was planned.

How do you think?

Really, really. Really. When I went to talk to my brother-in-law on the 22nd, I mean, it was to talk and go out and I was going to ask him to be my girlfriend. I never told my brother-in-law that I was going to take her. That didn't exist.

There was taking her. That didn't exist. No, you're not going to have a baby. Rome was literally the end of the concert, a stage. Let's go to Rome. And the next day in the afternoon we were flying to Rome. It wasn't planned, it wasn't anything. So, on the plane, everything, I said, she is, she is, she is my true love, she is the love of my life, with her I want to die.

I got there and...

I'm going to cry.

I'm going to cry.

She is giving her all for everything.

And then? Tell us

So I organized a spiritual wedding Because it couldn't be legal I haven't taken this ring off since Rome That's why people speculate So the interview that comes out Where they tell me

Felicia del Padre And everything else that was recorded That was in... In the week of May. So people are all confused, because they finished on the 20th.

They don't know the numbers.

They don't know the numbers.

They don't know the numbers.

Because nothing was planned. Because I was flowing with life and I was trying to do the best I could.

Without being dishonest. Without being dishonest.

Without being dishonest, without being bad. So, he... I even... My ex mentioned that... She found out with the public. My ex knew about the wedding. I mean, she knew I was married. I told her, I think on May 20th, I was telling her, hey, I'm going to start dating someone.

It's a public figure.

You're going to find out.

You're going to find out. I'd rather tell you here. I mean, I'm going to start dating someone. I'm dating someone. Out of respect, or whatever. I also wanted to avoid that. I was afraid that a picture of me and Angela would be on the cover of the HB magazine. So, I didn't want that to happen.

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We do it without any cost for you and of course with a lot of passion. And it is that independent and uncensored media like us had never been so critical and definitely, believe me, we could not do it without you. What did Casu answer to that? sin ustedes. She told you she was okay? Yes. So you can't go out after this interview and say, No, Dale is lying.

Yes, no.

Exactly.

If she says it, the one who would be lying, the one who would be missing the truth, is she?

It's her.

No, on May 20, she was told, I'm going to start dating someone. Then, when the picture came out and all that, I said, oh yes her it was Angela. After that, in a conversation, when she asked me to tell her family that I hadn't come in to steal the house, that's when things started to change. I told her, she's my wife and she respects you, you have to respect her.

Let's calm down.

Yes, let's calm down because you're also destined to have a relationship with Kazoo for the rest of your life.

For the rest of my life.

For the rest of your life.

Yes, yes, yes.

That's right.

You have a daughter and that's forever.

Of course. So I saw her daughter, and that's forever. Of course.

So I saw her.

So we better calm down.

Let's calm down.

And she was really respectful, that's what I'm telling you, if we talk about multiverses, I never imagined what would happen.

That she would react like that.

In that podcast, Adela, you would understand the context a lot, because a lot of things were happening, like with the maintenance, like I sued my ex-partner, it was a lot of things,

it went so viral, and it was never like, oh, it's a lie, it was never, it was just like a truth. And when she went out to talk, that was to protect your daughter? verdad y cuando ella salió a hablar que fue para proteger a a tu hija y que su

familia que ella y demás este no sé qué pasó acabó con el cuadro sí y sí porque nunca se insinuó que nosotros teníamos una que yo con mi esposa que tuviéramos una relación Because it was never taught that we had a... that me and my wife had a previous relationship. I got goosebumps because it's mentioned like, ah, it was probably when I was in labor or... or before, when I was pregnant.

And I was flying, crying my ass off to be with you and my daughter. I was the one who received my daughter in my arms. My family was there. I feel that discrediting those things I don't think it's a way to protect.

Yes, because at some point your daughter will see it.

Of course. At some point she will see it.

So her dad left her.

He cheated on her with his mom. Then he didn't give her any money. It's a shitty story. It's a shitty story. She cheated on her mom. She didn't give her money back. It's a shitty story.

It's a shitty story. Something that was never true.

Never.

You've always looked for your daughter.

From the day I knew I was going to be a dad, there's my responsibility to her and my love for her. She's never missed and she'll never miss. I've been there a podcast and I'll never miss it. I've been there to answer for her. That podcast hurt me a lot.

Did you talk to her?

I literally talked to her as soon as I saw what was happening. I said, hey, but what's up? I didn't even call her, I think it was a message. Chat. I don't remember if I called him. It was a message. I said, what's going on?

You understand that this agreement we have is breaking, right? What is the agreement? To do the best for our daughter. You were fine. Everything was fine on this side. You never lacked respect.. You never lacked respect.

My wife never lacked respect. Where does all this come from?

What did she say?

You'll have to defend her. At the time, when she asked me to say that her her family wasn't the one who stole from Argentina. Before the statement, where I confirmed my relationship with Angela, I asked her, I said, anything that comes out of context, I ask you please, it's very easy to clarify this, right? I don't want speculations, it's going to be a big problem, for you to come out and say, as easy as that. Yes, we broke going to have a big problem if you go out so easily.

We finished on May 8th, and it didn't happen for...

For X, Y, or Z.

It didn't happen.

We don't care about that, to be honest.

Exactly. And she told me that she wasn't going to mention my wife, and that she wouldn't count on her for that either. So I was like, okay, it's okay, she'll be talking from her healing or whatever, and it's valid too, she doesn't have to defend me.

Why? Right?

Not me, not my wife, not anything. But yes, leaving those gaps, and I think they are very malicious, because as I say, it opens the door and says, yes, it could have been during the pregnancy, it could have been during... No, Adela, no. And I don't want my daughter to believe that.

I don't want her to see that.

Besides, there's a very... very macho burden. Right? Because... all the hate has fallen on Angela.

Yeah.

No? But you also know that these are campaigns that have been paid for by Angela. It's not normal the hate that she's received.

And it affects her, it has affected her.

Of course, but it's been proven.

Ah, it's been proven.

It's been proven. These are campaigns that have been paid for by Angela.

Paid for by who?

I don't know. But they're campaigns.

How did you help your wife? Now you're telling me you fell in love with Angela. I mean, I see her as a charming, talented girl with a huge gift. Now you tell me that you fell in love with her so much that you said, let's get married. But how did you help her go through all this process,

which was especially painful for her? I'm not saying it was for you, I suppose it's not painful for you either, because there's a girl, a baby, in the middle. Sure. But for her, I mean, the rain of criticism, of horrible things, right?

They don't forgive her for anything. I mean, if she puts on, if she takes off, if she cuts her hair, if she puts extensions on. I mean, it's a thing on, if you take it off, if you cut your hair, if you put extensions on it, I mean, it's a thing.

It's a collective hatred.

It's a thing.

It's like I'm telling you, you can't hate, if you know Angela, you can't hate her. She's not a hateful being.

Really.

But who is one, right?

I mean, you can fall in love with someone. If you know Angela, because she goes out in the middle of the world talking, saying what she does and what she does, of course, it's easy. In 15 seconds, you get someone who's doing something bad, or who's being said to be doing something bad.

But who is one to judge, you know?

I mean, that's...

Yes, I understand, you understand.

I mean, I'm a woman who is made and right, and I know what life is about. Well, less and less, but one thinks

one knows what life is about.

One thinks one knows what life is about. And what I do believe is that who is one to judge the actions of others? And what is not worth is to hurt

someone so much. Because in the end, they hurt her. I don't know how she is now. I spoke to her a couple of months ago. But how did you help her go through this process, which was undoubtedly painful for her. I mean, she was medicated, depressed. and a young 21-year-old girl with a beautiful family. Her family is beautiful.

I mean, they might fall in love, but who cares? Yeah. Well, I think that from love,

literally, what the interviewer said about turning off your cell phone

and living life, I taught her that. Yes, but she didn't do it that much. I mean, she didn't do it that much. I think that what she said in the interview about turning off your phone and living life, I taught her that.

Yes, but she didn't do it to the extent that it affected her. It's hard to abstract yourself from everything that's happening around you.

It's a reality that's constant.

It's very hard.

Yes, I've done a lot more for me than I have done for her. Because she has been patient. Because she talks to me and says, Hey, this guy made me fall in love. He told me he was free. I didn't get in anyone's way.

I know, that's a fan. But she didn't want to... She doesn't feel that she belongs in that part.

Because you didn't cheat on her either.

Who?

Angela. I mean, there was no cheating. No, there was no cheating. I mean, I just finished my relationship.

Yeah, I mean, when I started dating her, I told her the truth. I said, I have very bad months, I just finished a relationship, I never specified the month, or anything.

The date. The date date or anything like that. I specified that I was into that, into enjoying life, into new projects, into working, but no, I never fell in love with lies. All of that was always clear. I want to clarify things because it's important. My daughter will see this when she grows up. And also so people can understand the context

and so she doesn stop speculating. My relationship with my ex-girlfriend is through lawyers. From October on, I don't know. Like I said, I give everything when I'm in love. And well, she wasn't in love, but she had a daughter, so yes, there it goes. Everything for the mother and everything for the well-being of both.

If my daughter's mother is okay, my daughter will be okay. So, I want to clarify that my daughter will always have everything from me. She will never miss her dad, she'll never miss that economic part that she's talked about so much.

Well, you have a lot. You wouldn't do it wrong if you didn't.

She's your daughter.

She's your flesh and blood.

Of course. She's mentioned, or she's insin hinted that I give her problems so she can work. That was her last statement. What she asks for are her daughter's rights and to let her work. I have the fortune and the joy of having shared my love for music. I met her because of her music. I liked her music. Sharing with her made me realize how great an artist he is.

So, I never put anything in his career to make it a hit, much less, on the contrary, I always supported him, before and after the relationship. After the relationship, I kept paying his team so that he had a... I don't know what it's called, an IR or something like that. Which was his favorite. I produced one of the songs on his new album,

which people were like, Hey, you're doing great with this song.

I did it.

No, I didn't do it. I produced it. I produced it. There are no credits, right? But I produced it. They produced it. There are no credits, right? But I produced it. They paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for a documentary that God knows if it comes out or not.

And I'm not charging. But his career, when I was going to do the listening with my album, with the important people that I know from the industry, he was leading his project. The part was always to make her grow. My perspective of everything that is happening to her right now,

I am very happy with the success.

Yes, it has gone very well.

It has gone very well.

And she deserves it. She is a good artist. She deserves it.

She is a good artist. She's a good artist.

She's a good artist.

And there's never been an intention, nothing has been done, there's never been a lawsuit. They also say I sued. Until today, there's not a judge that has a case for me or for her.

Only lawyers are spoken to.

Right now, the lawyers are agreeing because we couldn't agree on that. And this is for my daughter's sake.

But agreeing in economic terms or are you asking her to live with you? In general. What do you want?

No, in general. In general terms. Right now, just... Yes, in general terms.

But you're never asking her to stop working or... Never. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't know. No, yo estoy consciente que en algún momento mi hija tendrá la suficiente edad para poder compartir con los dos.

Más adelante, quizás.

Más adelante.

Más adelante. Tú siempre quisiste tener hijos y formar una familia.

Yo siempre quise ser papá.

¿Qué pasó cuando Kazú te dijo, estoy embarazada? Se me revolvió todo. ¿Te acuerdas de ese momento?

Sí, era en Japón. Todo se me revolvió. Le llamé a mi familia.

¿Estabas feliz?

Estaba súper feliz.

¿Estaba pasando por un buen momento la relación?

No.

Ah, no.

Pero no importa.

Eso le dio el motor, sí.

¿Qué dijiste?

¿Esto nos va a juntar más? ¿Qué pensaste? Sí, qué sé yo. That gave him the motivation. What did you think? That this is going to bring us together more?

I was like, he's going to be a dad.

Have you always wanted to be a young dad?

I've always wanted to be a dad. My parents are very young and I like the dynamic that exists with them.

I was just thinking that your parents must be very young. Very young. And they were young. Jóvenes, muy jóvenes. Y los tuvieron jóvenes. Sí.

A mí me gustó mucho eso, la dinámica de papás jóvenes. Siempre quise ser papá joven. Y aunque no se planeó, estoy muy feliz por ser el padre de Inti.

Oye, ¿y qué te enamoró tanto de Ángela? Yo sé que la conociste desde que ella era una adolescente. Es una joven muy talentosa y muy linda. I know you've known her since she was a teenager. She's a very talented and beautiful young woman. But what made you fall in love? What made you think, this is the one? Because you had had very intense, very passionate relationships, right?

Yes.

I fell in love with the way she sees life. I fell in love with her independence. She is very free. And she doesn't need anything from me. She doesn't need anything from me. In fact, I still ask her. Why are you with me?

Can't you see I'm all tattooed?

Tattooed, scratched, full of problems here and there. They crucified you because of me. It's like...

Oh...

Like, why are you with me?

And I really don't doubt that it's pure love. Pure love.

Angela, it's pure love.

And I think...

She had to live up close these parts of her life. Angel is pure love and I think that

she had to live up close these parts of her grandmother and her grandmother, the dynamics she had.

And her parents too, who have been together for a long time.

Yes, I think she has seen something very beautiful in love. And it is what she gives me, she gives me everything. It's like... Love is so innocent and pure.

It's pure.

I fell in love with her cooking.

She cooks well.

She makes you the eggs in the morning.

Not right now because I'm on a diet. Ahorita no porque estoy a dieta, pero cocina, y ella decoró la casa. Hay detalles como, por ejemplo, cuando...

La casa de aquí, de Houston.

De Houston. Ella remodeló todo. Y fue como esos detallitos bonitos, como ella me decía, no quiero entrar a la casa todavía a room, and a room. We closed it. It was my daughter's room.

Oh, how nice.

And something that is so far away for me, like I see it, I assimilated it like, OK, when she's four years old, I don't know.

She can come.

She can come.

The holidays.

Yes. And she had it in her mind. And it was like, no, let your daughter know that you always had her in mind. She has supported my bond with my daughter a lot. When I'm... since I have a bad patience or I'm annoying or whatever, she always reminds me, your daughter, your daughter, your daughter, your daughter, your daughter. That part, because I come with a package, you know?

Yes, yes.

I come with a package.

Well, we all bring a package in life. We are all a package.

So yes, I think that she loves me without judging me. She understands my past very well. She understands my past very well.

Not just in terms of women and love. I guess your whole personal story.

My whole personal story, yes. And besides, I don't know, there's something that's genuine. Like we're all in this together. Like a perfect puzzle.

Ok, a man who was born with a soul in love. Like you said. That's very beautiful. I think it was born with a soul in love. Like you said. That's very beautiful. I told you, being in love is something beautiful. It generates a kind of addiction,

this feeling of being in love and passionate. When you decided to get married, did you think that was it for life?

Yes.

I mean, you can't imagine yourself loving another woman at this point in your life.

Not at this point in my life.

No, no, not at this point, but maybe you could say, I mean, how am I going to be, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no. No, no, no.

No, no ya no No existe compromiso con nadie ya no hay amor para nadie

Eso cree uno cuando está muy enamorado y luego te vuelves a enamorar supongo que estuviste muy enamorado de De tu novia en sonora y luego de Belinda y luego de casu y luego te volviste a enamorar pero algo tuviste que ver en Angela que te quisiste, o sea, dar ese paso, ¿no? El matrimonio es un mal negocio. La verdad, el matrimonio es un muy mal negocio.

Preguntale a Isabel.

Es mal negocio.

El mal negocio.

Isabel, te's a bad deal. Oh! Isabel, you're really on fire.

Can I have a cigarette, please?

You know, it's a bad deal, wherever you look at it. It's a, I mean, I, I, I admire these couples a lot, right, who have managed to stay together through the years and through life.

Thank you.

It's just that, look...

Together. It's difficult.

It's very difficult.

It's very difficult.

It's really very difficult. I'm just about to turn... Well, we've been married for a year now. Okay. This 24th, we're going to celebrate a year of legal wedding.

Okay.

And the next year we'll have a wedding.

Civil, you say? Yes.

Okay.

The wedding for the church.

The year that comes. Invite us now, yes?

Yes, I will invite you. Because you have treated us very nicely.

Thank you.

I admire you. The truth is that, let's see, I think one has to see the artist for what he does, for what he gives as an artist. That's what I think. And we have to learn to separate what an artist gives as an artist from his personal life. And I don't judge, because life has taught me not to judge. You know?

Life has taught me that we all make mistakes, we all make mistakes. That's life. That's life.

And you know what I think, Adela? That the most difficult thing, and that only the brave can do, is to keep building, even though the eyes are set on everything that is wrong. Yes, yes.

And keep building. That's the hard part.

No?

Yes, it's very complicated.

I'm not alive because of my music, because of my art. I don't like the yellowing, I don't like to be called by my name everywhere, and saying horrible things, and doing... I don't like the yellowishness, I don't like to be called out for saying horrible things. I don't like it.

It's the worst part, I think.

It's the worst part, yes. But what can you do about it? You can't do anything about it. I would love to get promoted and be like, here's my album, let me tell you, with the violin I took six hours to make it look good. People don't care, right? So, I think it's important because it's already at an extreme point.

I took a while to talk about it. But I didn't want to do it out of anger. And if I'm being honest, I still have feelings for the whole situation. I don't think it's fair.

Well, you've seen Angela suffer a lot. Yes, but if things were true, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. or I would have run away before. But in truth, nothing that has been said is true. The feelings of my ex, of his pain, of his sadness,

are respected.

And surely they are true too. You have to be empathetic. And surely he spoke from the pain and from... Yes, yes.

Of course.

And we have different... Yes, yes. Of course. And we have different...

Yes, yes.

So, and going back to the topic, I don't think that discrediting things is the way to solve something or protect something. It was said that she hurt her family a lot she was hurt by her family. I never hurt her family.

I always supported her. I even ended up having a wedding for her sister. I always supported her. I don't know what hurt she was talking about when she told me that she wanted me to get a statement

to say that my family had nothing to do with it, that it was the wedding's follower, and that he took our home, our house, and everything. I said, okay, I'll send it to you and you approve it. And she uploaded it. Okay. I felt that we had that bond.

I felt... I thought that we had...

That you could agree on things.

Yes.

In the last... When we broke agree on things. Yes, yes.

In the last few years, when we broke up, there was no love.

And I think she also communicated it to you.

Yes, yes.

I mean, to communicate, hey, you can have a relationship out there, but I don't want to know, and everything will be fine. There is no love there. Or there is no desire.

To fix it?

There's no love, Adela. There was no love. I didn't think I was breaking her heart falling in love with someone else. Why? Because I felt like I had let myself go

for a long time so that these words would come out of your mouth. You know? It's like, it's over.

When he said them, did it hurt?

It broke my heart. That's when I fell out of love. That's when hope or illusion, I fell out of love. We were already sleeping apart, we were all roomies.

There was no love anymore.

So it was very difficult for me to see the interview and find out about all the pain that there was, and I don't doubt it, okay? It's like you said, everyone has a heart and everyone knows their truth.

Of course.

But if I did... If I dared to fall in love, it was because that door was already closed.

I mean, I already... I already to fall in love because that door was already closed. I mean, I already...

I lived the mourning in the relationship.

Yes, yes, it happens. It happens.

It happens.

I didn't know I was going to fall in love the same month I broke up.

I didn't see it coming.

Well, the boy fell in love. Yes. But you didn't carry that. The boy fell in love.

Yes.

And you didn't carry that same pain.

No.

You lived it.

I gave everything I had. And I think she gave everything she had too. Our relationship was good. I said, I'm not going to lose this friend. We're going to be very cool parents. Maybe not right now.

But later. But later. But later. Everything was going to be fine. And yes, we took pictures, our communication through the cell phone and everything was fine.

She sent you pictures of the girl.

Of the girl, yes.

And she already knew you were with Angela.

Yes, she already knew.

So she knew before the people that you were with Angela? Yes, I mean, I suppose and test kill a gentleman

Can double con Angela this Elvita my oh yes, I'll be a candle on

Sabaque, I started with alien. What do you think about?

15 Kiyos a vehicle, okay

Miami, Melo, confirm

He can he hopes to be a

Stabbing kiss you as a guest of our hotel. You know, I don't exist. You do? I was already broken. There was no longer us. How much did you fall in love with Angela? You knew her since she was a little girl, right?

Yes, I knew her. I mean, I knew her on time. I was turning 18. It was literally in January. I met her at the press conference for Jaripeos Sin Fronteras with Pepe. Angela would be about 13 years old.

I don't know.

And she always made me super talented. She's always been a doll. But I love to listen to her sing and everything. But there was no bond there. There was nothing.

You were in your bad.

I was in another one, yes. In Pandemia. I couldn't go, there was nothing. You were in your bad days. Yes, there were others. In the pandemic, and I fell in love with Sangrona.

What did she say?

She said, hey, I have a song for you, ta-ta-ta-ta. Hola, ¿cómo estás? first, right? Excuse me. Give me your number. What do you mean, give it to you? CanMe puedes pedir por favor que te dé mi número?

Okay.

Ahora sí.

Okay.

Ahora sí.

Y ya empezamos a hablar y era como que bien, así. Muy bien.

Ajá, ajá.

Pues como hice la canción de Dime Cómo Quieres.

Ajá, ajá, ajá. So, do you remember the day you gave her a kiss for the first time? Yes. Really?

Uh-huh.

It was the 14th, May 14th. That was our first kiss. I couldn't see her.

Why?

I was very nervous. We've never shared a kiss together.

Alone? No, always with the family.

With the team, with prizes and everything.

And after that kiss?

Goodbye, Christian.

I lost you.

But you say goodbye, Christian,. What's wrong with you? Do you lose yourself? I don't know what's wrong with me.

Come here, love.

When you see her mouth, I say,

Oh, her mouth!

What did you say?

Take my life, I give it to you.

Oh, how beautiful.

Yes, it's true. Ay, que bonito. Si, de verdad que... Es que es un...

Y luego, todas las historias de amor empiezan bonito. La nuestra empezó al revés.

Jodida. Jodida.

Y encima los dos éramos como el meme ese que se ve todo explotando atrás y la carita de Belén. Y porque somos así... Es como... The happy face. And because we are like that. It's like... The eloquent thing would be, well, disappear, right? Now that everything is burning, it's like... Well, yes, I'm hiding.

This photo is very beautiful, we have to upload it.

It came out great, right?

Yeah, yeah. The world is burning and there we go. Here's the firewood. Yeah, yeah. and it went viral, the I won, which is where the love came from.

Yes, exactly.

Well, there was Jomaris behind the camera and he asked for a video for the awards, and Angela said, well, friends, and then Jomaris says, win, win, win, and he says, I won. Well, they took that second and then this guy comes out.

Like she beat Kazoo.

Yes, yes, yes. Everyone took it like, I won.

It was taken over.

And that has affected your careers?

Of course.

Yes? The career, not the relationship.

Of course.

Adela, I'm blocked from Spotify, there's a lot of people. Even so, I'm still top global, right?

Well, yes, you are very successful.

But, there are still a lot of people who followed me because of that, and blocked my accounts, and stopped following me.

Is the fact that you talk to me part of a strategy?

It's part of telling the truth.

Ok.

So that when my daughter sees the interview, she understands that her dad has always been there for her, and that he will always be there for her. And that he never betrayed her mom, that he never stopped giving her so she could live well. I never left her unprotected in life. And well, to clarify to people that my wife never got involved in a relationship. She never got involved in a relationship.

But the strategy doesn't have to do with... What you're talking about, let's say, doesn't have to do with a strategy to unlock you, to earn more, to make more money, to go to your concerts.

No, I think the people who let me follow are the people I'm not interested in. Okay. I don't know if it makes sense to you, but if you stop following me for gossip, you're not my fan. You're not going to pay a show to see me. No, it's purely for the truth, to protect my daughter.

And because I suppose you felt this need to say your part.

I feel this need to say your part. Or me nivel de enojo se sobrepasar la que está luchando que me ayuda a centrar me es mi esposa O sea si has estado a punto de mandar todo al carajo y decir y todos somos malos todos somos malos todos somos malos todos Tenemos nuestra parte lo hice después de que de que vi el podcast hice un en vivo Pensaba y demás está encabronadísimo I saw the podcast and I did a live stream. I said what I thought and everything. I was so pissed off. I'm telling you, I don't like what happened. I don't agree with that story.

But there's the evidence.

And you've never talked to her again?

Who? Kazoo. Yes, of course.

Do you still talk to her? Of course. Just to see her?

Things about my daughter and bebé, sí.

¿Y nada más?

Claro. ¿Todo lo demás lo ven tus abogados?

Todo lo que es tema legal es de mi abogado.

¿Cómo te llevas con la familia Aguilar?

Híjole, esa fue difícil.

Es que Pepe puede ser difícil, ¿no?

El diablo. That was a difficult one. Pepe can be difficult, right? The devil.

Yes, it was very difficult. Really? There were a lot of clashes at the beginning.

Like what?

You have to think that it's not Pepe Aguilar. It's my wife's father. He's talking like a father.

And you have a reputation of being unfaithful and a womanizer.

Yes.

And a dog.

And a dog, and everything. Yes. He was very worried. He was very scared. I think this whole situation was new to him too.

Did she have someone else? Excuse me? Did she have someone else before you? Perdon? Ella andaba con alguien antes de ti? No sé. Yo supe que ella tenía relación con...

Estuvo en una relación con un amigo mío, con un compositor.

Pero también con un deportista, ¿no?

Con un deportista... Ah, con un futbolista.

Un futbolista.

Ya. Casi, casi antes de ti.

Ah, no me sé los tiempos de ella. No le pregunt there's a de de t. I know me say los tiempo de ya No, they're pretty not know. Let's go around

Creo que un poco antes de tienda con un deportista. Creo creo

Que ando haciendo conmigo pues ya tenía un deportista para que pa que no este has puesto bien

Le estás trabajando duro de la De la sentado bien Bueno, cuéntame de Pepe no es fácil You're working hard. You've settled in well. Tell me about Pepe. He's not easy.

Pepe is not easy, and as Angela's father, he shouldn't be easy. The Lord... There's always a lot of respect between us, and we look at each other like we were partners. So, that switch, where we're not just partners anymore, but...

The devil.

It was complicated. He was very scared. And it wasn't easy. The approaches with him. My respect as a father. And my respect as a father-in-law too. And my mother-in-law. My mother-in-law too, but my mother-in-law really...

Helped.

Helped.

Softened. It was a key part. Helped. Helped. Soothed.

She was a key part.

She helped to soothe.

But what did Pepe tell you?

He was afraid. He thought this wasn't going to last. No one had faith. We're going to have a sign now that we're turning one year old.

For all those who didn't have faith.

And what did you tell him? Did you tell him to go for it? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. to go out with Angela? And what did he say? That's not used much anymore, right?

It's not used anymore.

It's not used anymore.

But I felt it was the most correct. Besides, I wanted him to travel with me to Monterrey. We wanted to be together all the time. So, I couldn't leave his house without something serious, without something formal. It's not what you get used to in that family.

So I said, he's a man of custom, let's go that way. And I talked to him, I said, Pepe, I love your daughter, we're very in love. Really, I've been going through this. I told him my situation too. I broke up, everything is fine with my daughter's mother that I broke up with my mom, that everything was fine with my daughter's mom, that everything was fine with my daughter,

that I wanted to be able to share with her. It was hard, but in the end she accepted.

But I want to know, at that moment, what did she say? What did she say?

No, that's not going to count.

No?

That's not going to count.

I can imagine how he got.

Yeah.

Yeah, he got mad.

And today you're a big family, right? Yes, yes, yes. You live together a lot.

Yes, I, yes. You live a lot and... Yes, I think time has helped. It's just that there were also a lot of lines of respect, both from me to him and...

Like from him to you, of course.

Yes, because in the end, all of this goes for love, it's for love. And I think in the end, he was able to see my intentions, also when I asked him, now I want to get married.

The... The formal one. Because when we got married in Rome, I didn't tell her anything.

And her parents?

Neither. What did they say? Are we married? Excuse me? What did she say? Did she say, I'm married?

It was kind of mandatory. I'm not saying that they extorted us. A magazine had 560 photos of us. We had a formal relationship because of the magazine. Because of the magazine. That had 560 photos of our spiritual wedding.

So, I think we were in the Dominican Republic when we told my father-in-law.

And what did he say?

Because he didn't understand how all of this was happening. They were on a trip to Japan.

It's good that they were going that way.

Yes, right?

Yes, it's good that they were going far.

So, at that moment my ex-publicist was taking all that relationship, they were in the photos and they asked us, hey, videos of Roma are coming out, we have to clarify because someone else is going to clarify, and you know how, at least that's what they told me. We have to go out with the relationships on the 10th, on time, this day We had to go out on the 10th.

We had to go out on that day. Angela chose one of the photos of the cart.

Yeah, it was better than the cell.

But it was really bad. It was really sad. That's why on June 11th, when Angela sang with me at the National Auditorium, I took it out because I thought, this is not going to take away any magazine. This is mine.

This is ours.

Of course.

That's where it was. And it was a very magical moment, because there was no hate, nor the idealization that I had of my wife. It was the real thing, the pure thing. She was a great artist from the Mexican region. They were a great artist from the Mexican region, singing together. I mean, I sing, people say, why do you sing that song?

Because it's the second most successful song in my entire career. Wow. And that's saying a lot.

No?

So...

And if it's saying a lot, of course.

So, of course, whenever I go to my shows, we're always together. We love being together.

Do you go with her?

We go with her. We're always together. I love it. I enjoy going to her shows. I'm dancing behind her. She knows my choreographies. She knows what song I'm doing. She knows that when I get drunk, I'll sing other songs. We have our own dynamic.

But well, we wanted to make our moment. And that's where it came out,

Why are you my boyfriend, Cristian?

And well, that's how it was.

The light came out that way. So you're in a good moment in your life. In a great moment in your life.

Yes. Not as I would like, Adela.

What do you miss?

Well, I would like that part with my daughter, to be able to have a better communication with her mom. I would like it to not have been like that. I would have liked it to't been erased so much.

The narrative of the story was distorted.

The narrative of the story was distorted a lot. And yes, it was super fast. And I apologize. I apologize from the bottom of my apologize to my mother and daughter. I fell in love. I thought being honest was enough.

I would have liked to give her more time to process the sadness, the pain, the despair. But it wasn't for pleasure. There was a magazine in the middle, there were photos, there were videos, that you can't control, and also to stop living,

well, it's kind of a shit, right?

Well, yes.

We spent all day in Angel's apartment here, I still didn't have a house in Houston yet. So we were in the apartment, ordering food, watching movies, but there came a moment when we were like, hey, we're going to get in trouble.

We were like, let's get in trouble.

It's inevitable. And it was going to be inevitable.

I mean, it was going to happen eventually. Eventually. I was talking about two of the regional artists that wake up that part of the media. It was inevitable. And also, when I told him, I told him, you already know how this is.

Because it was the same with my ex-partner. We were just...

With Kazoo?

Yes. With my ex-partner we were just... With Kazoo? Yes.

We were just... Composing. And I was trying to...

And you had already released...

I had already released videos, photos, everything. It's very easy.

The greatest love of your life, would you say it's Angela?

Yes.

As a couple. Angela pareja.

Ángela sí.

O sea, pensar... Sí, sí, de pareja.

Sentimental, digamos, sí.

De pareja. Ella es el más grande amor de mi vida.

Probablemente porque, como dices, es por las razones correctas.

Por las razones correctas, sí.

Porque también te enamoraste love with Belinda and...

If it doesn't deserve it, what I've felt for other people, but if I got married, it was because I really found everything I needed in her.

Everything I need. But I saw the pedrusco she has. The pedrusco she has is a pedrusco.

Yes, right? It's a pedrusco que trae, el Pedrusco que trae es un Pedrusco, eh? Si, verdad.

Es un Pedrusco.

Es un rocón, es un rocón. Y te gusta dar esos regalos?

Yo todo lo que hago, lo hago con el corazón. Me gusta hacer sentir especial a la otra persona.

Tú has sentido, dime la verdad.

¿Qué?

Porque también de eso se habla mucho. ¿Qué cosa? What? Because that's also talked about a lot. What? That someone is with you more because of how much you charge than because of you.

There have been cases. I don't know. I want to believe that it's because I'm beautiful.

Or because you're beautiful.

Or because of my feelings. I don't know. I wouldn't know. I think there is a community being with me. My dad taught me that with my mom. I've always treated her like a queen.

I like to make women feel like queens when they're with me. In general, I like to make women feel like queens. Um...

It would be pretty sad if I did, right? I like to feel like a queen to women.

It would be pretty sad, wouldn't it? I don't know, but...

Not for me, I think for someone else,

being with someone for money...

Yes, because you have money for that, but... It happens, right?

It happens.

There have been cases.

There have been cases.

Oh my God.

Do you regret anything in life? In your short 26 years?

I regret... I regret not being able to do things better with my wife and daughter.

But it was in you to do things better, do you think? You could have done it better.

I could have waited longer. But we wouldn't be talking about the Christian I am. I would love to have waited longer. I couldn't. And to be honest, I repeat, we wouldn't be talking about Christian Odal. That's right. We would be talking about someone else. And that's your primary subject to sing and compose and for life.

For life. I like to live well. I like to live happy. I like... With what you feel.

I like to live well. I like to live happy. I like it.

With what you feel.

With what I feel, yes.

For better or for worse.

Life is very complicated.

Life or us, we make it complicated.

We make life complicated.

Life is not easy either.

Yes, but I still feel like I flow with everything.

Yes?

I don't plan anything and I flow. I go surfing alone. And I think that in the long run has it has given me many beautiful things. More beautiful than not. Of course, more beautiful than not. I have always been able to do things better. You can always do it.

But it was also not in my knowledge, nor in my heart, nor in many parts. And do you compose a lot?

Because your most recent album is not your compositions, right?

Not at all. Okay. It's not an album like, I don't know, like Ayayay, for example. I've always collaborated a lot with Edgar Barrera, I've collaborated with other composers, but I did compose a lot. Lately, no. I'm not composing much.

Why?

It's a lot of time, Adela. I have a lot of music saved, I have a lot of songs saved. But I don't know, I feel like I'm taking a break from that part. And I'm also giving myself the opportunity to record other artists.

Okay, but you do support new talents.

Of course, for example, Ramoncito Vega.

Yes, and you like it, of course.

I like it and I would love to do it even more.

Who do you listen to when you're not working? Right now, you go home...

I recommend a record by Senzenra, the new album by Senzenra. Great. I recommend you a record by Senzenra, the new album by Senzenra.

Great.

It's beautiful, it's a work of art. Carlos Ares is also an incredible artist. I love artists who are not looking for commercial things, they are looking to go through you. commercial um foreign

foreign foreign foreign

foreign foreign It's about your instinct, your vision. You have to have a taste for music. That's what happens to me. I don't listen to a song and say, this is a hit.

It's going to be a hit.

It's going to be the world's hit. That never happened to me. I've always had insecurity. And more as a composer, more insecurity. I listened to Dios Amor and Te Fallé, and I said, no, I'm going to drop everything. But it's what there is.

It's the honest, it's the sincere, it's what I'm born with. It's what Cristiano represents. So with my songs, with other artists' songs, I find the lyrics, bits of my life, of my soul, of my feelings, of what I share. That's what I do.

But really, Adela, I'm not a pro. I don't support that, looking for the commercial, what's the trend at the moment and so on. I don't feel good like that. I feel that when you make music...

When you're genuine, it's when you feel good.

When you make fake music, it's fake, you can have more numbers, but it's not going to be seen on your shows. I like that the songs that are sung on shows look good on Spotify, but I can assure you that a lot of people who have millions on Spotify don't sing half of it on this side.

Would you say that your element and your best place is on stage or in a recording studio? I understand that it's different, but where do you feel in your element?

In the studio, the energy is absorbed between my musicians, the engineers and the producers. And on stage, it's all the audience. In the studio, I'm the captain. And on stage, I'm a mirror of everything they give me. I'm a mirror. The way the audience responds, I'm giving it my all. The more they scream, the more they sing, the more I get inspired.

I feel like the stage is my transformation, my facet. I'm not extroverted, but on stage I feel like here I am. Here I am. Enveloped by my lyrics, by my musicians, by my music. And that's the moment I enjoy the most in life, being on stage.

Would you say you're an introvert?

Yes.

I like it a lot.

Does it cost you? Does this interview cost you?

No, not with you.

Ok, but...

But did you think, like, I'm going to give an interview and...

For how important it is.

Ok.

Yes, of course it makes me nervous.

For the content, let's say. Okay

Portola

But a lot of it may be here on can't get one to the stem which I said to be stars

and When you gave a lot of interviews in the square, you were doing a casting to see who you were going to interview. I said, damn, at this point in my life I'm doing a casting? I said, really?

Really?

They said that later.

Did you feel used to it?

No, I found out later. No, I didn't feel used to her. They told me, no, come on. And I said, no, come on, she's hot. Because I had said wrong. I thought I had interviewed Belinda

and you had entered the interview. Like you crossed paths and greeted. It was the other way around. I interviewed you and Belinda was with you, and then she came in and greeted us, and we all hugged and stuff.

Yeah.

And when they told me, hey, Nodal is going to be giving interviews, they usually come, right? I mean, and I said, well, fuck, Nodal. and they usually come. And I said, I'm going, it's not bad. And I had seen you with Bocelli,

and I said, this guy has an impressive voice. Which I admire a lot, you know? There are people who are very media-oriented, and then the conversation is that my father in my father but when the Madness and Mira's El Talento the albion

We say so it's the most part of it. Oh, yeah, no, you know, I don't get to tennis. Una gran boss. No I know say come up and saw us give us a certain pet

Is a cunt

No, no, no,. I don't doubt it. When I get drunk at shows, you know I get really drunk when I start playing the trumpet. I'm already making up my frustrated dreams. We already lost it. I've never been to a casting like this. At that moment I wasn't even like,

I'm going to talk about the song. I didn't think that it would die with time, that it would end at and it never did. But I did decide to share all this information with you because I liked the conversation we had, I liked how I felt about you. I think you understand, you're an open person, you listen, and when you talk, you talk about things that have weight, that have value, a lot of value.

So that's why I decided to do it with you. There wasn't a casting, but...

I was missing it, right?

From the first interview, I felt very comfortable with you.

No, thank you very much. I really appreciate it, and I appreciate that you thought of me. Well, actually it's...

I appreciate that you... But your fans will appreciate it more because you don't get a cowgirl all the time, right?

No, and I love it. And you look very pretty. I love it. I was missing the hat but they told me, here we are going to give you one. So I didn't worry. I really like cowboys. I was going to tell you that your belt is really cool.

Thank you. Thank you very much.

You're welcome. Where is the buckle from?

The brand is called Chrome Hearts.

Oh, yeah. It has incredible glasses. But they're very expensive.

And not everyone can afford them.

But you're a good connoisseur of fashion.

I love it. I really love the work.

I also like the brands. You know when you know.

Exactly, and you can't see them, you can't notice them. It's beautiful. And I also had an interview con Pepe y con Ángela.

Ya.

Con los dos, muy linda. Nunca habían dado una entrevista juntos. Fue la primera que dieron juntos.

¿A poco?

Ajá. Ajá.

Oye, pues estás llena tú de primicias.

Es que tengo muchos años en esto, no? Tengo muchos años en esto y en la vida. I've been in this for years. I've been in this for years, and in life. And it was a very nice conversation. I met Angela there. I didn't know her. She had a reputation for being very sissy and heavy. I think she had said that she had Argentine blood.

Yeah.

And I think she didn't like it very much. I'm not much into gossip, to be honest. Of course. It's not my thing. My thing is to talk to people and not judge. I mean, listen and ask.

I think that's why people always want to be with you.

To share.

I think that one... No matter how experienced you are, how old you are, how mature you are, you don't have authority to judge, you know?

Yes.

And life places you in that, because we've all gone through moments and processes.

Totally.

So that interview was very nice, the one with them both. And there I met Angela, and she was criticized a lot, and I said, but she's a lovely girl, with a lot of talent, a girl, right? For me she's an adult, but very young.

So, Angela was born with a privilege and a weight too, that they say, she's Pepe's daughter, but granddaughter of...

Well, she has her weight.

...Josie Veste, Antonio Aguilar, and others, of course. But I think that, of the privilege, we are all clear. But the responsibility...

It's also very big. It's also very big.

I mean, I give it to you. I give it to you. Having a lineage of... I mean, they are part of the Mexican culture. You go to Colombia, that's part of it. Colombians grow up smelling Mexico or feeling Mexico through their grandparents' movies.

Of course, of course.

Their father made his own name. It's a very hard path. I feel that being a son or grandson of a Mexican is very complicated. But he has singing classes, acting classes, dancing classes, everything. He lives in love with Mexican culture. I remember when the 30% Argentinean article came out. And I was like, I don't want to be the last game of Leo Messi.

The last World Cup of Leo Messi.

I want Mexico to win.

Of course. But poor Leo Messi. But she still has her Argentinian blood from her grandmother, her mother.

It's also inexperience. They say that you can't talk did football the religion and political. I can't laugh See no I can't laugh see the verdad pero Son, luego de claraciones que uno hace a y a vote pronto y que no piensas que tendría una repercusión así CCC

Este y luego pues nada I didn't know there were so many people offended. Yes, yes, yes. And then, well, nothing. And then I interviewed her. No, I interviewed you first in the square, and then I interviewed her. And I admire the talent. I, like you, am very surprised by talent.

That still surprises me to this day.

And that you will sing with Bocelli, that I have chosen you to sing with Bocelli, I'm a big fan of talent. That still surprises me to this day.

And that you would sing with Bocelli, that he chose you to sing with Bocelli, I think it was an incredible experience.

It was a... I think that's the show that has made me the most nervous in my life. I felt like stones in my hands. I believe you. It's very complex because Bocelli, well, he doesn't see, but he's a soul that feels, I feel he's a very sensitive person to energy.

And his wife is there, who feels and sees everything for him.

And his wife, his wife on the microphone, she's saying everything, everything, everything. So it was complex because it's weird for me to sing something so intimate. Every time I share with artists, it's like living the moment together. And since the rehearsal, it was hard for me not to feel that part. Why? Because I felt like he didn't know I was going to sing. I felt like he didn't know.

I don't know, I felt something. I didn't feel his gaze or his connection. So I was much more nervous. I was thinking, what if I mess up? What if something happens? How am I going to look bad here?

How am I going to leave Mexico bad? But nothing, thank God everything turned out well.

Everything turned out well. and on that stage. Yes, beautiful. It was majestic. Majestic. Yes. Incredible, incredible.

Hey, don't you want to have children already? Are you trying?

No, not trying.

I mean, are you working on it? Or do you want to wait? We're practicing. Or do you want to wait?

No, we want to wait. It's just that Angela is very young.

She is young.

People seem to forget, but Angela is very, very young.

And I already have a daughter.

I already have a daughter.

And you're very young too.

Yes, I think that in 5 or 6 years old. That's when I started talking about having a daughter or a son.

But you want a lot of kids and a big family.

I would like 4 or 5 kids, counting you.

You're missing 4.

Yes. Or 3. I'm counting on you. You have four left.

Yes.

Or three.

You're working. But you're in a happy moment in your life.

I'm in a very happy moment. Very happy. And I always feel that when you're really bad, it's when you miss the moments you thought you were feeling bad.

Yes.

Yes.

So I try to enjoy every drop of happiness that I have in life.

Do you break up? Do you feel broken and sad?

These eyes have cried a lot, Adela.

Yes? In private? Nothing else?

In private, in public too. It has happened. Have you seen each other? In concert, yes. In concert. In concert, yes else? In private, in public too, it has happened, if you have seen it. In concerts, yes, in concerts. In concerts, yes, I have exploded. Normally it is in private, with my partner too,

there is that bond where I can vent, that confidence where I can cry, I can let go of the confidence that I have to cry. I can let them feel my negative feelings. And life is like that. Not everything is beautiful, not everything is ugly and horrible. It is what it is.

It is what it is. Yes, because one thinks that the artist is only the glamour, right?

Well, a little bit.

But no, there is life. There is daily life, problems, difficult moments, and so on. I thank you very much for choosing me. How is it? The survey? do you say it? The casting. The casting.

Thank you for participating in the casting.

You were the winner.

Cheers. I don't have any more.

I invite you. Cheers. Thank you.

I don't know why, but yours tasted stronger. Me too. Gracias a todos. Gracias. No sé por qué el tuyo me supo más fuerte.

A mí también, wey. Yo creo que le echaron más.

Me está saliendo la tinta ya.

Hijo de... ¿tinta o sangre? Creo que es tinta. ¿O entre tinta y sangre?

No, por los pantalones. Es que literalmente me acabo de tatuar. Sí, qué dolor, wey. Toca, mira. No, because of the pants. I literally just got a tattoo.

What a pain.

Touch it, look.

Is it hot?

It's burning.

Fuck, it's burning.

Yes. Yes.

They're pretty, at least I've seen them.