“A Recipe For DISASTER!” Prince Harry & Meghan Markle Reveal BOMBSHELL Return To The UK

It was announced that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex will move to Great Britain within a few weeks with their children, and the King only found out 48 hours ago.Do you understand what this means?And your long national nightmare is over.And despite the happy beach photos and the lifestyle series, you move out of Montecito, even though you still don't have any state protection here.And Harry's war against the press ended unsuccessfully.Great Britain with your new food.

But will you be welcome there?In the studio, of course, we have our co -moderator and royal butler Grant Harold, as well as some very special guests today, the NBC royal commentator Daisy McAndrew, the entertainment and royal reporter from news2com .au, Bronte Coy, and the royal journalist and author Robert Jobson.Many thanks from all of us to you for being here today.

So what the hell is going on with Harry?... ... ... ... ... ... ... ...

So what is your reaction?

It's unbelievable.I was very shocked about it, especially because the kids go to school here.That has a certain consistency.I think, especially the fact that Megan moves here.After everything that was said to me, she really had no interest in returning to Great Britain.I've said it several times and I think we talked about it when I was here the last time.

That Harry tends to visit more often in Great Britain.He misses it a lot.He said that himself.But that's also what I've been thinking about for some time.

The whole thing with Megan.The whole thing with Megan.It's pretty surprising.Daisy, you were on air when this message came.How was it?

Last night and...We knew, I'm sure we all knew, that something was going on.There was something in the air.You could guess something.And I thought it was the interior ministry that told us the latest about Harry's safety check and so on.So it was quite a moment.

And in retrospect, you are always smarter.And now, if you look back, you can see that there was a charming offensive by Harry in relation to the United Kingdom.You know, the podcasts, the TV shows, the visits and all these things.So it all makes sense.And obviously that's why.The big question.

Is it because of the king's health, as many people say?Is it because of the age of the children?That does make sense.7 and 5 is a reasonable age.Whether you're busy sewing nameplates on the back of your uniforms...

I can't imagine that.

Everyone thinks it would, you know, somehow on my screen, but it's not.I mean, at the end of the day, you know, when news like this is spread, many of us don't know anything about it, you know.And you find out, there are a lot of questions, you know.People ask what's going on and try to get to the bottom of the matter.So a lot will happen behind the scenes.

I think I want to ask Katie, I want to involve you.Do you think that what Robert is saying is true?The commercial views are simply not there?Is it really that simple?A kind of side effect.People have spotted that Meghan has not received so many birthday wishes from her famous friends.

Has the American dream simply died?And that's the end of the story.They were not the huge success they had hoped for.They no longer hang out with all the Hollywood stars we saw at their wedding.If at all.Then I believe that their star has sunk much faster in America than they would have ever assumed.

Their currency was always their title and this closeness to the royal family is crucial to their success.what do you do when your own star sinks?You turn around and try to get closer to the royal family.And that's exactly what they're trying to do.And our own Pierce Morgan says, maybe I have to emigrate to the US.Shared opinion on that.

With us now is Kinsey Schofield, host of Kinsey Schofield unfiltered with the view from America.Kinsey, it's great to see you again after last week.

We didn't expect that, did we?

I mean, that's a pretty big deal.So, credibility.I mean, the problem for Harry and Meghan is that their words are an ever shorter hype.Do you disagree with your own behavior?I mean, sometimes.Do you disagree with your own behavior a few days later?

A. Why should the public believe what they say today if they behave as if they never said it?Well, it's fascinating that you say that, because one of the topics I want to address is the security issue.And Harry's constant wish that we finance his security from tax money.It was only a few weeks ago that he published reports that there were six jihadist terrorist threats against him.So it just came out of thin air?What, what, what is your opinion?

Well, I don't know.I'm really amazed about it.To get back to your point, he was still so angry at the palace and the government a few weeks ago, because they didn't give him the accommodation in Buckingham Palace, where he wanted to sleep, and because no armed guards in Great Britain were waiting for him in... then Bronte reported that they moved in and out of Great Britain very quietly and secretly, and that it was impossible to move in the United Kingdom without being harassed.But what has changed?

What do we believe?Do the Sussexes return to make peace?Or do you cynics claim to make money?If the question is about me, I would emphasize that it is more about professional than personal goals.Where was the sympathy for Thomas Markle when she had to have my body amputated?Months.

When she shot the Netflix documentary and wrote Spare?That's interesting, Daisy.Do you agree with that or not?

I mean, one of the things that are the most incredible money machines for everyone else.That's the biggest irony with them, you know.For everyone.And I mean by that, they are literally clickbait.And the advertisers fall for everything that has to do with Harry and Meghan.But they are the ones who do not earn any money in this extraordinary situation.

Bad.I mean, earlier, now you know.Now that you don't get the Netflix money anymore, You don't have two houses yet, and it could be more if you buy one in Great Britain.No, exactly.I mean, you own huge real estate.You have the house in Montecito.

You have the 6 .3 million house in Portugal.You have a lot of expenses.You have the new house, whatever that will be.We suspect in the Cotswolds or wherever.So you have enormous bills to pay.

I personally don't think that you...I think there are two ways you could earn the money, as you used to.Secretly recording behind the back of the king for six months and recording behind the back of William for six months before you left.That was a betrayal and you have no idea what deal was made to stop you from doing that again.Because you know, what stops you from walking around with your cell phones at Christmas, shooting movies and then bringing it all to the public?Ah, the trust is not there and it was not reproduced?

Do you think that's a strange question?Because that's what people ask me.

Do you think that's the only solution for the King and William?I don't know what it looks like with Meghan, but I think the only solution is, you know, you work in a network system, as you know, and the network system works in coordination with the King.the government.We had Andy Burnham, who had to give an explanation in which it was said, oh, your safety is a private matter.As soon as you are in this country, you will be part of this parliamentary democracy and constitutional monarchy.So you have to...

I'll get to it.I would like to include what you said, Daisy, because we get a lot of criticism for it.People say, oh, you're talking about Harry and Meghan.Is that your thing?The media probably make a lot of money by discussing Harry and Meghan.As far as I know, you briefed the Telegraph, the Times and your organization, Bronte.

I have the feeling that if it was a private matter, a family decision, then you would not tell anyone where you live or which school your children go to.Why do you have to do every single damn thing you do to the big bell?

But as far as the general point is concerned, I agree with you that I think one would have had to learn from it.

I'm not saying you weren't briefed.Of course you were briefed.The Telegraph and the Sun were briefed.Don't be ridiculous.Let's just...Let's not be stupid.

Were briefed.Liam McGuire has briefed certain organizations.But certainly not the M, so let's not be silly.

Silly as far as the People magazine is concerned, they are constantly being briefed.

Of course we know how the world works.

But that's not the point I want to get to.I am of course glad that you have addressed the point that we are all talking about Harry and Meghan.And that's what we put the biggest criticism in.And that's what we put the biggest criticism in.But the truth is exactly as you say.That's what people often read.

We see it in real time.That's what they react to.As far as their arrival in Great Britain is concerned, the Sussex brand has it up here.

Exactly what you just said, the Sussex brand.You are doing exactly what the Queen did not want.The monarchy is not just about brands and commercialization.She is part of our democracy for this country.And that is exactly what you are destroying.That is a classic case of winning over the situation by sharing and ruling.

And just like you put a gun to the king's chest.Will you do the same with William?William must be the pragmatist who looks at the entire system of the monarchy.

And he definitely, you also informed the People Magazine about it.How was the reaction there, do you know?Speakers that Harry and Meghan have the feeling to have proven that this half in, half out, king model can work.And this next step really feels like they would slowly but surely get their will and have the cake and eat it.I know it only took her seven years, Johnny, right?But it really is like that.

God loves a test and it's a marathon.There, where they are now, because who knows if it was all planned or if something was just pure coincidence.But if you look back at the original manifesto, what I did earlier, and look at what they said at the time of the mexit, before the deceased Queen Elisabeth blessed it and before it was implemented in a proper way, their idea was very clear.We want a half -inside, half -outside approach, we want to live in America, but come back, represent the royal family and fulfill our duty.And by the way, we also want to be financially independent.And of course the deceased Queen knew that this would not work.

It has never worked in the past.There is no reason why it should work this time.But if you look at this Meganescence instead of Megxit, as it is called in the social media, I love the puns that come out of it.

Regrets it.Robert would like to bring in Regretsit.

They bend it in a way that works for them.And I have to say, I'm so sorry for William.Just like Catherine, who has to fight her own fight against cancer.Yes, you know, William, who knows what he's thinking right now.right now.Uh, I'm not allowed to think about it, the poor Prince George is about to enter the public eye.

All of this will be overshadowed.And the reason why it went wrong at all was that Harry and Meghan didn't like their position in the ranking.They didn't want to play the second violin behind William and Catherine.And I just think they're slowly but surely using the money that ultimately gives them more currency.That's how easy it is.

Katie, in this context, I mean, you're also worried about royal unrest, because you only have to look at Clive Alderton, who is also going.I mean, the timing is extraordinary.You already talked about it earlier.

The people thought we would interpret too much, but now there seems to be a possible connection.I think Clive was very, very suspicious of Harry's constant attempts, i .e.calls and visits, to agree on Clive.Did he foresee that?Did he know that this would happen?

Who knows.I'm not sure if he knew that this would happen, but there was definitely the feeling that Harry was trying to find a way back.There have been rumors since spring that he is not happy in America.That has been going on for some time now.What I think is amazing, and I would like to hear your opinion on this, is when you met your father a few weeks ago and it was an important meeting.You brought your wife for the first time after so many years and the children to meet their grandfather.

You wouldn't think that this would be an opportunity to look for houses.Just to say, by the way, you'll see us more often now, because we're moving back to Great Britain.

I'm going to take this question.

...said it would have dried up, or the palace would have started to rumble.Is that really what we want?

A part of me is wondering, are we really all sitting here and saying it's bad that they're coming back, that they're coming back?

I know, I'm a bit naive and see the glass rather half full.But I think it's a good thing that he's coming back.I think the last 6 or 7 years have been really sad.And if there is only the slightest chance that the king has to bear it again before his end of life, we don't know.Hopefully this is only in many, many years.Some of us think, great, that gives the case at least a real chance.

As long as they are in Montecito, that would not have happened.And maybe it won't be, maybe it will be a disaster when they come here.But I can't help but think, shouldn't you celebrate a little that they might try to clean up the things?

Why don't we give him the Royal Lodge and just throw the key at him?Best.I think first of all we need an apology, not just to the King and Prince William, but also to the people he has named in this country.You know, we were there when they accused people of the royal family of racism.They say it was people who did bad things to our country because of what he did.He was there.

We saw the flight to freedom.How happy he was on the flight to freedom.He sits there and says how wonderful, do you know how wonderful America was, how terrible.I mean, I think an apology would be appropriate.Isn't there a rumor that there should be an apology?

I think...I mean, at the moment there are too many rumors, too much whispering, too much whatsapp gossip, because the reality knew until Sunday of nothing, and the whispering, what are the other things, that there is no going back with the half in, half out deal.We at Buckingham Palace stand that we do not change the rules.No whispering, because with a whispering and a whatsapp group, you could just claim it never happened.Do you think the king knew about it on Sunday?

I mean, I know how one of you has done it before, but you know, it's pretty difficult to handle it conceptually.

Even if you're privileged, you don't just sit there and say, I'll bring my child, that the teacher...

In your case, you could have registered the children months ago and kept it secret, which is very dissimilar to you.Because obviously it would have been very impolite if you had overshadowed the king.

It's extremely impolite, okay?

At least you could have just kept your options open with a registration.

These vague conversations...

I don't want to sit around like this in Windsor because I don't like England in general.Worries and talks about how dark his skin could be at birth.how dark your baby will be.Possibly in white.

You're not allowed to go.I don't think we've ever shown peace with my family.Absolutely no willingness to reconcile.And I'm not sure how far honesty breaks bridges.You know, silence only allows the perpetrator to continue to abuse.The day she died was just a really terrible reaction from my family members.

They were in the defensive and then the briefings let it sink in and the launched stories.I thought to myself, we're here to celebrate grandma's life and mourn her loss.There's the whole country and then there's you.And you're standing in one direction and they're standing in the other direction.And look at you.Look at you.

The whole world.Yes, the whole world.I compared it to the Truman Show.Have you seen the movie?It's a mix of the Truman Show and the Living Zoo.

Kinsey, how is it for you to hear all of this again?

I mean, there are some evidence.My goodness.

I mean, Harry and Meghan have been talking in absolutes for years.And that's why these contradictions are so harmful.You can't say repeatedly to the public, that's our truth.And then expect everyone to forget this truth when it becomes uncomfortable.And these are also two people who are trying to be thinkers and to market themselves in this way.And how can you climb a podium and people like President Trump?

and Putin?And expect to be taken seriously if you are trapped in such contradictions?I just don't understand the thought process behind it.What is the thought process, Brontë, just to say, hey family, we'll be back.

That's why we're all amazed, because actually it doesn't make any sense.But to your point, and I know it always creates headwind when you look at the human aspect.Yes, I see it just like you, that this family is deeply disputed.We know why.We've seen it.We understand it.

I know the whole context.I don't think it's something terrible.I always think of the king, what Harry Inspare wrote about him, where he says to him and William, please don't make my last years to hell, boys.I always go back to it, because in the core he has, Charles, so much criticism earned to bind Harry back, Hex.But ultimately it is his decision as a father in the aspects that do not specifically concern the monarchy, but to have his son in his life, that's up to him.And I always think of this sentence when we talk about it.

But I think that's the problem, and Kinsey really put it well there with the absolutes.I've said that before, too.They just seem to immerse themselves head over heels in these topics and maneuver in a corner like that.A corner.

But it's not a normal family.It's about Robert's point from earlier, so very much at the heart of the constitution, how the entire British system works and how we all accept this measure of luxury, this measure of privileges and the position they have in our society.I have the feeling that the queen had a good reason to break up the Cronon family.

Royal families seem to protest more than before.And I remember, when we were at the Trooping, we saw for the first time that the BBC even switched off and started reporting on it.I haven't seen that before.

I really believe that a lot of people don't do that.It's pointless to say, oh, they're there for the younger generation.These two people, middle -aged Harry and Meghan, are in no way representative of the great new youth.A lot of people will say,see you as meaningless, demanding and privileged.

And that's, excuse me for the interruption, that's the other point.Of course, you have to find a way to pay your bills, as we said before.You may have to find a way to reconcile with your family, but if you want to build a life here, you also have to increase your popularity, and that is at the absolute low point.

You surround yourself with small communities of people you all like, you know, the charity work.And you're probably thinking, oh, we're doing pretty well.You have to consider the king and the outcast.He was sharply criticized and he probably has a different attitude to it.But one person has this attitude, in my opinion, and that is William.I think William will see the big picture, just like the queen, and ask himself how it will develop.

And the only way he can make it to the advantage of the monarchy as an institution is, in my opinion, to somehow get Harry back on the boat, Hirosa.But I really think he has to ...

You know what I find difficult about watching this clip?And we all kind of giggled almost unbelievably at some of the things they said.What I find really hard to understand is how they can be in the same room with them after all the things they said and believe that it can go on like this.No, looking at it even reminds me of it.No, what do you think?

Well, I remember this scene when they came out after the death of the Queen.Came out.They agreed, they picked up the phone.William picked up the phone.Whatever you have to do, you have to do.I know what was said.

I have the feeling that bridges have to be built at the moment.And that's because the king Harry reached out a finger and he immediately took the whole hand, so that the pressure is now shifted back to William.Dagan.What happens at Christmas, Grant?You know that Christmas could be a farce.

Let's postpone it to another day.

No, but that will be the stressful moment today.

It will be the moment when we see who shows up for Christmas, who will openly experience a split.

If Harry does what people suggested and somehow apologizes to the British public.I mean, it's written in black and white what some of the things you said about us, you have.That's true.And when you see this montage of clips, it's amazing.You're kind of here and there and constantly changing your mind.And you ask yourself, I think it would be a big step to stand up for what they did, or when Harry was interviewed by Tom Bradby after the opera interview.

Let's not forget that.It triggered a racial debate that split Great Britain and America and left a real ditch between the two countries.It was so harmful for the royal family, and actually not only for the royal family, but also for Great Britain.They had the money at the time.Difficult, I'm obviously not in the studio with you and do my best with the bad connection.But this idea of compulsory consciousness, which is the core of everything, forms what the royal family does to connect with what they said at their exit in 2020, namely to want to become financially independent.

I'm just not sure if you can agree with each other and lead to success.And I just have to act like that and shoot a new documentary series.Um, I don't think compulsory feeling is in the focus.I really don't think so.I think that's a recipe for disaster.And I'm not sure if William is that generous.

I just want to mention what I thought as a third person when I heard that you register your children at school.The first thought I had was this interview that Megan gave in 2022.It's a royal photo shoot with 40 press photographers.She says, I have a problem with that.What is your point of view on that?I mean, we've had a lot of school trips with royal children over the years.

this circus.

Well, this is the first time that I think Megan has not googled her husband, because the protocol says that this does not happen anymore today.I mean, I actually remember having to keep my mouth shut during the Where is Kate chaos, because parents told me at school that she was there when they brought her.We see Katherine every single day.You know, we see the princesses of Wales, but I didn't want to hurt your privacy.So people are very keen to protect the children.We don't see any pictures of Prince George and Prince Louis at their sports events and games.

It's just a different world than it was when Prince Harry grew up, and people are very protective of these children today.

Yes, that's absolutely true.Thank you so much, Kinsey, for stopping by.Feel free to drop by anytime.I'm sure there's still a lot to be discussed on this topic as the weeks move towards September and the start of school.Thank you.Thank you.

Let me get to you, Daisy.I just want to know what you think about Katie's statement about this mixture of duty and commerce.I totally agree with K. I think we all agree that they tried something new.And for many reasons, partly self -inflicted, partly because it had never been tried before, it didn't work.Well, I'm not talking about the finances here, but about the fact that they're coming back.Of course, we know that Harry said he was in a lot of pain at home.

And we saw pictures of Archie wearing little England jerseys.There were signs of this, and he talked about his children being English or British, but whether they can find a kind of middle ground here if they didn't succeed in the States.Of course, they will be more under observation here.What they do will be more interesting.I found it interesting to work for an American broadcaster that the Americans were quite quickly disinterested in him, especially in Meghan.Harry actually has even bigger chances than her.

What interested her was the whining of Meghan.And then the job is done, you know, something new.

While here in the good as in the bad, there will be more interest if you mess with anyone.To monetize that, to have the nose shape.But if it makes her more popular, then, well, nice days for her.But if it makes her less popular, that will get worse in bad situations.

I really believe that the king, here and William, have to make a bigger decision.can't do that in this country because the monarchy will start.The people with the yellow umbrellas will ask, what do we actually pay for?Why do we allow this?I think Harry knows that.And another thing is that in the past, royals like Edward and Sophie had their own ways to start commercial companies.

These companies didn't really come to fruition.We obviously had this pre -deceived thing when Sophie's PR flew up.It didn't work.The Queen says it didn't work.Go back to work for the Royals.And you both will do that.

And you both will be seen as hard -working members of the royal family.Rehabilitate Wehet.He believes in it.He doesn't believe in surveys.He doesn't believe in looking at surveys.I am, and he probably has.

But you can't be half inside and half outside.You know, this marmalade thing has to go.I think the problem is, I totally agree with him.I know how the king is in his way.I think the problem is that William is the one who says no.But at the moment we are in the era of King Charles III.

Huh?You know, we are in the Carolingian Age, not in Williams.We have also seen how determined Harry and Meghan are to continue their way and do things their way.So to be honest, maybe one day they will say, we get two million pounds a year.Yes, we'll take that.There is free protection for that.

Look, we're jumping from one topic to another today.There is so much to talk about this topic.I would like to return to the topic of security and the concerns that Harry has.And that's what he said last year at the BBC.

I can't imagine a world in which I could live in peace.and my children back to Great Britain.

Is there a problem with him himself?Second question.What in the world happened to security?

Because only last month, you know how we say, the story came out.I revealed this story.They all wanted to come and then Harry was very angry because the security precautions he thought he would take did not work.That was weeks ago.And then he made enormous efforts to show us what great danger he was in with his report on jihadists who were allegedly behind him.

And that follows, you know, six years in which this was his main topic.He talked about it endlessly, that's why he went to court.And that's an important question.And the truth is, we don't have an answer to that.He brings the family with him, but of course that concerns everyone.

It almost seems as if he would put his safety aside and tell that he is doing all this for his father.Think of his famous comment, how long his father still has.Suddenly he leaves almost everything and lies down to come back.Do we forget the security?Of course we all ask ourselves why that?

One should consider that the examination is still going on through the interior ministry and we have this absurd situation because we have too many living prime ministers.That is one of the reasons why the examination has been delayed, because our politics, what can you do, is so chaotic that we have all these prime ministers who need security all around the clock.As bad as in Australia.You said you thought it would be even worse.She can dive.Would assume that we receive a kind of guideline from the interior ministry.

That's the way it has to be.It certainly has to be that I mean my considerations.And again, I have no internal information about what happened here.It is open.Oh, then everything was fine.

And then, yes, maybe he calculated.

Yes, maybe he calculated his calculations.We know it.Well, you're probably more than the king lives, as you know, with cancer.He organizes all his affairs.He just bought another house next door for Camilla for several million pounds from his private fortune.We talked about the staff taking care of his children.

We talked about how much is changing in the staff, there is a lot going on.

Well, I know there are a few more.

You know, you made a really good point there.I think, according to history, this week nothing is completely excluded.I think it's possible that Harry would do something like that, but there we are again with Meghan.

I don't see that at all.Maybe she's not involved in the deal.

But maybe, maybe, but that's exactly what it's about.I don't know, and that's exactly why the news was so surprising and everyone was wondering whether she would return to the royal family.I just don't think she has any interest in it, but the public would never tolerate that either.I just don't see that.I don't know if that's true.I mean, we said that about Camilla 30 years ago.

I was just about to say when you mentioned the image improvement.

You know, Princess Camilla was considered someone who would never be able to play a royal role.She was seen as insolent and so on.And suddenly the great William gave her a much clearer view of these things than the king.She corrected that with Sophia and Edward.She made it very clear that it doesn't work that way.You have to work full time.

The thing with the king is, he's one of those people who always see the good in everyone.Always sees the good.I think William is 100 % like his grandmother.He sees things in a completely different way.I think the king always wants to see the good.

You saw the relationship.I mean, his relationship with Harry was always a very good relationship.Probably better than his relationship with William.And that will lead to no problem with William.

I have no doubt.If you look at pictures of the two of them together, of the three together, you can see that Harry honored his father.

Was it an emotional blow for you to know that he would return to the country permanently?No, no, not at all.But I think it will be very interesting to see the reaction.I mean, someone from the round, I don't remember who spoke about popularity and how important it is, because they are so incredibly unpopular and I assume the media play a big role in this.It will be interesting to see how this is recorded in the boulevard media.I don't think anyone will necessarily welcome Harry with open arms.

Partly because, as I said before, he put us in the center of a big racism fight, which brought Great Britain into the headlines for the wrong reasons and was incredibly unfair.I think a lot has to be done again.Nevertheless, I do not believe that it is impossible for Harry and Meghan to tear the Rudder around.I mean, who would have thought that we would make a show about them returning to Great Britain?As you said, Joe, who would have thought that Camilla would develop into one of the most successful royals?You should never say that.

No, we didn't see her.And who knows, maybe she'll come back.But I think his popularity could improve if we see Harry doing what he's best at and regaining that popularity.Not just popularity, but the love that people feel for him.We don't want the Wellchild Awards to be held in September.Next year, Invictus dies.

He would love to have his father by his side.If we see him doing that, he could, in my opinion, rip the rudder.Stranger things could happen.Let's be honest.True.But I come back to this whole idea of commercialization and making money, which the brand monarchy devalues.

And if that's ultimately the intention, people will look through it and not like it.And in this crucial moment for the monarchy, apathy is probably the biggest threat.That could be enormously harmful.So you have to hope that their intentions are sincere.I guess we'll have to wait and see.That would be nice.

Now let's take a look at the popularity of Harry and Meghan.As Robert said, King Charles doesn't like polls, but we do here at Royals Uncensored.And we asked our social media.

On our social media we asked, do you want Harry and Meghan back to Great Britain?Look at these numbers.88 % said no. 6 % said yes.7 % said it doesn't matter at all.Things can change.Things can change.

We have to fundamentally change.

And quite a lot.But that will require a lot more from William.Right?It is also interesting that we now have these rivaling farms that take their first steps.

I think William will see this and think, oh, we can't have two farms that act next to each other.I can't go to a planned event like he did in Pakistan as Simon Kays, his private secretary.When did the announcements about the ITVOW interview come out, which completely overshadowed William's and Catherine's trip to Pakistan?

Would that have been 500 or 600 years ago?And that's not it.You know?Can you imagine that?One of you would have landed in the Tower of London.Do you know what would have happened?

One would have drunk a barrel of wine.And there William, I mean, he seems to have involved his father with three visits.He comes back and, one might say, uses the children as chess pieces.You know, they need their education.How could that happen in such a short time?I don't know.

But, William, does he really have to be the smarter one?

According to everything you hear, that's unlikely.He, you know, he's persistent.We hear that.You know, he is.And he has every reason to be persistent.

William, let's be honest, given that the king lives with cancer, he will You know, he won't live until his 90s, at least we don't think so.So the fact is that everything revolves around the next government.This is William C. Child.

What do you think?Well, I think that's a very good point, but I don't believe the people who say Harry is here because he believes his father is dying.

If he gets this role and becomes a working member of the Royals again, it is much more difficult for William to get rid of him, if he is only a king once.

So he has to get back on his feet as soon as his father sits on the throne and he needs time to change the public opinion.

So it really landed right in front of his front door.The problem was, in my opinion, that the Atlantic did a good job for her, because he didn't have to deal with it.Just like you say, if that happens now, and very immediately.

And tomorrow the sum will probably be announced that he has to pay for the cleaning, as he called it, in court.That will probably come out tomorrow.And that's why the timing is, with such strategic indiscretions, under all the news.

To be honest, it's much more fascinating than everything The Crown has shown in the last few days.But Katie, how do you see that?How does William do it?This narrow line between family quarrels and disputes that we all have in our large families and the preservation of the institution, to master...That's a young expert.He's a historian.

Ed, thank you for being on our show.I know we're connected by a line, but it's great to have you with us.I think I'd like to ask you two things.How far have we moved away from the Sandringham summit and what was agreed there?Do you know that compulsory consciousness and financial independence as working royals are compatible with each other?And then I'll ask you something about William.

As an answer to your first question, no, I don't think it is possible to be financially independent and at the same time a committed member of the working royal family.If we look back a hundred years, it is mainly about the fact that the royals fulfill these tasks for us and, on the contrary,receive our support and are allowed to live in great privilege.The idea that you can stand with one foot in the camp of duty and with the other in the camp of commercial opportunities.It was made very clear to them at the beginning of 2020 that this model was not bearable at that time, because if you will, they would not adhere to this historical role, which requires self -sacrifice, especially in the context of on personal ambition and personal fulfillment.The royals put the obligation on everything else.

If personal fulfillment is in the way, like, for example, with Edward VIII, at the time of the thanksgiving crisis, then something is going wrong.

As a future king, William will one day be the head of the Church of England and forgiveness is obviously the focus.We know that William is probably not the most religious person.That's a separate topic, but he will be the head of the Church of England.If so, So that his reign can be successful, and we assume that he will inherit the Harry problem if he ascends the throne, cast a bad light on him if he allows it, that this disaster remains a problem, it is something that he has to overcome, whether he wants to or not, because of his constitutional role and his oath.

I would say two things about that, Katy.First, if you look back at the last 150 years, the monarchy was the most successful in these divisions, And you know, it was the same in the late 30s.Second question, the monarchy was also the strongest and most effective when it embodied the moral values and virtues of the nation and the moral values of modern Great Britain.It is rooted in his Christian heritage.And as the head of the Church of England, as the highest governor of the Church of England, William is expected to embody and live up to these moral Christian values, including forgiveness.Well, I think that explains to a large extent why Charles chose a proactive approach to reconciliation with his son.

And no matter if now or in the future, I think this is something that William has to face, because, as I said, I think it is in the long term interest of the institution that there is reconciliation.And I think he will be a much more convincing and more effective monarch if he can embody these moral values.

Yes, I understand what you mean.And besides, even in Archie, when he was still Prince of Wales, there was a lean monarchy.A lean monarchy.

At times it looked more like a skeletal monarchy than a lean one.

And if Harry is able to fulfill his duties, to support his father and his brother, I mean, they have such limited staff, in your opinion, could he play a useful role if he turns the page?

Yes, I think he can.Harry is basically a miracle despite all his mistakes and weaknesses.True man.You know, he is very proud to have brought Victus Games to life and that has too much to say.He is most likely at home.Ultimately, if he is to return as a working member of the royal family, I think this is a decision in which William will be deeply involved.

Don't believe that Charles Harry will, so to speak, secretly bring back to the royal front.This is William's monarchy, just like Charles' monarchy, as far as the future of the institution is concerned.And we know that William has a very strong right to speak in important decisions.Therefore, I think that first of all,

And maybe a public apology?We will see.Ed, thank you very much for being with us.I know that you were really busy today.That's why I really appreciate that you came by.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.Robert, I actually wanted to ask you about the whole thing about the King and William, because I know that you wrote a lot about it in your books.You talked a lot about it.You know, that was historically seen, um, you know, hand in hand, very, very seamlessly.Does this whole problem now threaten where Harry returns and Charles and William are completely different in this regard?This more loving relationship and the fact that they are so in agreement?

Or do you think that they will overcome this and William, for the benefit of the...

Some of the statements that William made about what he was thinking about doing in Clarence House caused some unrest and were viewed as crossing the line.

I wonder, however, because I hear a lot of rumors, especially in public forums and from people who are really invested in this royal family, that Charles was a little disappointed when he, so to speak, buried William with the olive branch on Harry, when he said a Christmas invitation to Andrew despite all his scandals.

I'm sure Daisy has a lot of American feedback.People thought the king would be seen as very weak.But my point is, it's like this, how the decision of the queen was regarding Andrew and regarding what happened to Harry, This is the reign of Charles.It is his reign.It is by no means a double reign.

I think the emphasis of the reign is really very important, because we know that Charles was the longest apprentice in British history, that he had the most time to think about what kind of reign, what difference he would make.And we also know from historians and people like Robert, these children, when they are born as a king or queen, it is said, it's just about what you're going to do, what now, what, how will the story keep you in memory?They are not normal people like us, who just try to give their best.They will stay in history for hundreds of years in memory, memory.And that is something that Charles is very aware of, because he doesn't have much time.Once apart from cancer, he is an old man, so he has to start right away.

And we know, I fully understand your point when you say he doesn't look at surveys, but the surveys on whether he does good work or not are really interesting, are really interesting.

But he loves America.Look, let's look at what he did in his reign.The Trump visit was a huge success.Visits in Germany and France.Huge successes.And the people noticed it.

But it's not, and they noticed something special.

The Achilles heel is the family.

And the family is not a weakness.And I think that's my conviction, that especially in their speeches, in the congress, he was enthusiastic about it.You could see this joy in his performance and in the way he really pushed through.

And it was appropriate that he was put in this world to do it.

But it's not William's reign yet.And I know it causes problems at the court when William starts talking about what he will do in his reign, because the feeling is that you're not there yet.Why?You can talk about it when I'm dead and buried.

And I know there were comments from the king about this lack of respect personally, like in his narrow circle or in a crowd, basically saying, you know, don't go too far, everyone I have Your Majesty, Queen Aldiara.Respect, but it also brings me a little against.And I think that's true.

He did, but he wrote many letters to politicians.

But actually, it's part of his task area and William probably just doesn't talk about it.He will also write letters.

Does this refer to William's statement that the royal family should not, for example?That didn't sound particularly good.

I thought so too when he said that, because that contradicted everything that King Charles and his grandmother stand for.

I think the statement that fits is, be careful with what you want.

Even if you go back to the coronation, that it was said.It reminded me of it because we heard things about how William wanted to stop his coronation.These stories appeared in the media exactly at the time when the king had his.Yeah, that's a little rude.That really goes too far.You should celebrate his birthday.

Not dead yet would have been the right expression.

I mean, honestly, these things, although they understand each other very well, William, and they certainly got closer.And apparently this Harry thing made everything a lot worse again.

Inevitably, inevitably, you know, they always argue.Just so you know, they always argued.But I think you're right.I think with Harry, because he was the youngest, there was always this, the youngest son thing, and he always struggled a lot, and I experienced that, and Wayne didn't mind, because I think Wayne was aware of that.So there was always that, and I think that's the reason why Harry always got his will to a certain extent.And I think that's it, and the other thing that goes through my head is the fact that Harry is now coming back with Meghan and obviously wants to build a home, and as we already said, the king is not doing well.

It's as if Harry is going to die.

The schools are checking, the schools are checking.They have allegedly, that's what I was told, I don't know how true that is, north of Oxford, lived, when they came here, with a friend.This friend must have a connection to a school.

But the demands have to be high in Frogmore, it was a shithole, they didn't like that.

May I make a suggestion?If we talk about royal residences, what about his uncle, uh, uh, Spencer?That's not it, but it's just the way it is.

If you drive the school route every day, it's probably a bit long, but as far as I know, you have looked around in this area, uh, you had a friend there where you lived.Surely this friend must have school -related children.

You had a house right next to the Soho Farmhouse at Chipping Norton.Well, that's available for a while.You will surely want to be near a place, that's the hotel, I know the area, uh, If they go as far as Katie, you'll walk over their path.

You'll become friends.You'll be neighbors.I'll be waiting in the art room.

That's going to be an interesting encounter, isn't it?

An encounter, whatever.

I think the Codswolds are probably not a bad guess.You're not too far from Highgrove.I mean, let's be honest, they have to be outside of London.This whole security problem has to be solved.It won't be near Windsor.So I think the Codswolds are probably pretty accurate.

In fact, I talked to Charlotte Griffiths, a good friend of our show, and she was already told in June that she was looking for a job.They were already looking for a job at the time, which again underlines my point, how long ... we don't understand, was only recently informed, but ...

But does Highgrove belong to William Andersen?

I'm still overwhelmed by the fact that it even happened that you will be here.So I'm still working on it.But I think, look, we saw how Andrew was invited from the king to Balmoral this summer.I think it's quite possible that Harry and Meghan will be invited to Christmas.If they don't come back, but I think, I think they said that before, I can imagine a world in which William and Catherine reject Leisa and spend it with the middle class and that would be a way to somehow...

I think it will be known that everyone was invited, that the king opened his doors and then we'll see.

I think what they should do is visit Katy and wherever you are, Katy, they should come to you and take a vacation with you.

Come over to Mora.

I was more worried that Katy had the constitutional expert on vacation with her than I did.I thought so too.

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That's it from us for this week.What an exclusive show that was.Many thanks to our studio guests Daisy McAndrew, Bronte Q and Robert Johnson, as well as Kenzie Schofield and Ed Owens.And to Katie, who censored her from her vacation time at Royals.