ABANDONÉ A MI FAMILIA POR ESTA RAZÓN | Los Talegones & Kimberly Loaiza

Since when do you feel that relationship with your sister was broken?

Since she got together with Mario.

What did you feel at that moment?

I didn't do many things so that relationship wouldn't happen because there were already rumors. If she... decided one day, really.

What did you feel when you saw your dad giving those statements?

I broke his heart.

You just went to Mazatlán and the video of Steph's famous video had already passed. How was the reaction when you saw your family after that?

It was quite tense when I arrived because I didn't tell anyone. There was a strong fight, screams and that. It hurt me a lot that they did this because I know, I know the weight this has.

When that person started dating Mario.

Well, for me it was difficult, like what they said in the video. It's real that they say no, that Juan ... I'm gonna say I'm gonna say I'm gonna say

I'm gonna say I'm gonna say I'm gonna say I'm gonna say I'm gonna say No, no, yo también le dije pues que onda vamos a hablar o no porque cree que tu hermano no quiso salir en el video

El carlitos pues yo creo que después del video te mandaron mensaje a tus familiares la última vez que yo fui me habían dicho que el neurólogo les había dicho como que

ya no hay lucha tiene está en estado vegetativo ustedes saben como que si la quieren desconectar connect our like in my city tomas to be a despierta que le diría me quiere hacer llorar to me and kill a diría Carlitos y este que van a ver este hoy aquí me quisiera preguntar te sube tu relación con Juan ya es que muy comentada en las redes sociales de manipula la verdad La verdad. So far, I know I see Nadia gente, okay, JD Pantoja se moleste Se noje nos deje de hablar o nunca nos perdone por lo que vamos a hacer lo que la gente ya quiere lo que la gente pide lo que la

gente a clama hoy te vamos a liberar fuerza aquí hoy libertad a Kimberly Loaiza porque ustedes lo pidieron gente no se hagan Isa, because you guys asked for it and you don't do it. We're tired of people saying that Kim is a rock, that she doesn't talk, that she doesn't have a tongue. That she's a statue, that she doesn't have a tongue.

Let's see if you do have a tongue, right?

Of course I have a tongue.

And of course you know how to talk.

Show me your tongue.

Of course you talk. I know you have a tongue. But what are you going to do? They scared me What? We are ready We are here for the good ones Today is Kimberly's space Oh no!

Don't resist because we can't go worse We are a team They are the talegones, how are they going to turn to their talegon?

Kimberly, Kimberly People say that they don't let you talk And when Juan is with you he doesn't let you talk. And it's because when Juan is with you,

he doesn't let you talk. It's time to strike.

He's giving people the reason, but well.

Because he likes to talk. He likes to talk to Juan. I'm not saying that it's bad, but it's time.

We're just opposites.

I like to feel calm. We're tired of him being quiet. You're not being quiet either. It's ok, because the man is not speaking.

It's real. I'm not going to be able to deal with this.

Shut up.

Shut up and don't answer me. No, I don't want to.

You have to let Kimberly speak. I'm going to let her speak. Oh Okay, one more long one. It's time. Wait, wait, wait, sorry, sorry. Something you want to tell Juan, Akin?

I love you, my love.

I love you too.

Kiss, kiss, kiss!

Woo!

For me, you're the best.

Enough, enough, enough, enough, enough.

It's going to start.

Hey, it's going, no, no.

I think he understood it very well. He's not gonna want to talk, I don't think so.

I just want to make it clear that you're not a statue. You also have the right to speak. I want you to please un-splash yourself, to take out everything you have.

It's your time, it's your moment. Un-splash yourself. I Know Parla china me gusta No, no

También I Have a nice aciente feels very agust. What agusticity, man. Imagine that Juan gets mad and the talegones end. Because of what we did.

No, no, I don't think he'll get mad.

Don't get mad. He'll get mad, man. It doesn't matter. And if he gets mad, what? It's time for the mayor to speak. That's right, it doesn't matter. I'm gonna say, Kim Hablo. Kim Hablo. Finally, the statue will say,

Ana.

Oh no, man. Rucha. No, no, no.

The statue is talking. Oh no, you guys are done. You want to finish me, right?

You want to finish me.

The guests are going to say that we treat them like that. No, what do you think?

Yes, yes, yes.

That's how they treat them. No, no, pero hoy, hoy. Hoy es un día especial.

J.D. Pantoja al fin la va a dejar hablar.

Hoy es un día especial. Con esa cinta ya se va a callar. Juki Love.

Estamos hartos de que Kim no hable.

Juki Love. Ya deja de manipularla.

Juki Love. Es Juan de Dios y Kimberly Loaiza la estatua aquí looor In this podcast, you know we read what people say, we laugh at the haters themselves. So, since we're talking about this topic here in Berlin, I would like to know what you think of the comments that Segundo lets you speak.

Well, nothing. I mean, I just don't know, I don't understand. People, after so long, have really not realized, and they don't realize it yet. He is more extroverted. I'm more introverted, so we complement each other. We can't both be there talking in Chinese. I mean, really. It would be impossible.

It's not very difficult. So, of course, he talks a lot. I don't like to talk that much. I like to listen more. And that's it.

He looks like he's overwhelmed. He's sad because he can't talk. He wants to talk a lot, I like to listen more and that's it I see him like, agitated He's sad because he can't talk

He wants to talk, he wants to die He wants to complement what I say He wants to add flavor Well, starting with that question the most important thing is how are you?

How do you feel?

You, Duki, how do you feel?

I have a lot of mixed feelings a lot of things I've never felt in my life It's the first time, I don't know, it's all very strange It's very weird But within what I have, what matters the most is my mom That she recovers well, that she is well, that she can get out of this

And then I'll have to explain everything that happened Sure, it won't be easy Yes, it won't be easy Yes, because the internet footprint is something that can't be erased It can't be erased, and we know it We've had controversies for years and people keep bringing them up

and keep bringing them up It hurt me a lot that they did this because I know I know the weight this has. I know that... well... I don't know, because I don't want to... Oh, honey, you look very sad.

He looks very sad, man.

Come on, come on, so they don't say he doesn't talk.

Yes, yes, no.

Well, I feel that the most difficult thing is also that

they have been accumulating, you know? Even though years have passed, they drag on the other one, and the new one. Yes, no, they accumulate them. They take out the past, they take out this one, and people take out things that have never even happened in their lives.

Even the couple already took you out, Kim.

Oh no, no, how horrible, really.

I saw it as if I was going to fall.

That couple. I'm not going to talk about it! Even with your eyes open? No, no, you can't

Oh, that's it

No, yes, it's too much

There are many things Kimberly, changing the subject a little bit I know you have a lot of time on social media You're retired, people know Kimberly from social media what a redundancy

but I would like you to talk a little bit about your past, your life how it was, mainly I would like you to tell us a little bit about your past, about your life, how it was, mainly I would like to start from childhood. How was your childhood?

Tell me about your childhood.

My childhood. It wasn't that easy. I grew up with my two parents together, but I don't know, I don't want to talk about this topic because it bothers me because my parents don't want to talk about this topic because it bothers my parents. I know they don't like me talking about this, but I had a difficult childhood, to be honest. I don't want to explain too much, but I had a difficult childhood. My parents were together, but they were always, you know, fighting, fighting.

I was a very insecure girl. I don't know, I think that so many things between them generated many insecurities in me. Since I was a kid, I sabotaged myself. I mean, I knew how to do, I don't know, some things. There were things that went well for me. I don't know, I had some... Some achievements in my childhood, like when, I don't know, you get a 10 in an exam. Or you have a career and you're the fastest, or something like that.

So I always sabotaged myself, like... I knew what was coming, I prepared for that, and in the end... I made it go wrong. I don't know if I explained myself. Sabía lo que venía, me preparaba para eso y al final... Hacía que me saliera mal. No sé si me explico.

Sí, sí, sí, claro.

Entonces sí, fui una niña...

Insegura.

Con mucha inseguridad. Y una adolescente también con mucha inseguridad. Las personas siempre estaban acostumbradas como a pasarme por encima, ¿sabes? I was used to being overshadowed, you know? So, this is what happened to my family, as you can see. They were used to me following what they said. So, I did it. To please them.

To please them. I was very pleasing. So, they know me like this my whole life. Obviously, I didn't live so happy doing that. I didn't know until I started to investigate about it. Until I started to put my limits. So, that's when people think that I changed for another person, without knowing that I changed because I wanted to do it, for my well-being, for my happiness,

and for being better, to be a better mom, a better wife, also to be a better daughter. estar por mi felicidad y por estar mejor para ser una mejor mamá una mejor esposa también para ser una mejor hija porque al final no no puedes o sea no sé como que no siento que daba tanto amor real desde hace cuánto tiempo hace cuántos años tú decidiste sabes que hasta aquí o qué fue lo que te marcó What was it that made you change? When Kima was born, I felt like there was a before and after of me. A drastic change. A radical change. Super radical. Being a mom really helped me a lot to open my eyes, to wake up.

Not only with my family, but also with my marriage. And as a person. So yes, many personas pueden decir, ay, es que has cambiado, cambiaste conmigo, cambiaste con la familia, cambiaste con mi mamá, pero es que ellos nos han dado la tarea de venir a mi casa

y ver cómo es ahora mi matrimonio, ver cómo ahora también soy con Juan, soy diferente, pero en el buen sentido.

También yo creo que el darse cuenta I think that realizing that you were not the same girl that... Yes, no... Oh yes, tell me what you want...

Yes, no, it's like yes, tell me what you want, tell me... Even what I'm going to... And I'm going to endure it. No, I just know how to set a limit with respect. With respect. And they haven't understood it and they want me to be the same girl I was before Also related to your childhood, I'd like to know how you get along with your siblings

with Carlitos, with Estep

I always had a good relationship, well you know, we were siblings we would fight but most of the time we were fine and in our teenage years, I got along better with my sister I would bring her everywhere, She was with me all the time.

I would take her everywhere.

You even helped her on social media when you were on TikTok, right? I remember.

Yes, a couple of times. Not a lot because I feel like she didn't give more space for me to do more things with her. What do you mean by that? no dio más pie a que pudiera hacer más cosas con ella.

¿A qué te refieres con eso?

Pues se juntó muy rápido, ¿no? Para empezar. Sí, porque yo al principio ella sí me decía mucho, ella sí me decía que quería, que quería, que quería. Y yo, porque veía tantas cosas en internet, tanto hate, tanto odio, yo la traté de cuidar en ese aspecto. Yo le decía, espérate, espérate que cumplas 18 años. I told him to wait, wait until you turn 18. You have to have a different mentality, because this is not easy, this is hard.

People are going to attack you, people don't care what you feel. Sometimes they don't care what you feel. It's just very easy to comment, it's very easy. It's very easy to say everything you feel at that moment and attack. Because, I don't know, it's easy. And you let yourself be carried away by the other comments,

and the other comments also put ideas in your head, and then you say, well, I'm going to say my comment. And then she also, at first, you see, I made that video of blanqueamiento, and I don't know what, she had also received hate for that So I was like, no, I really felt that she had to wait

So, to what you're telling me, to see if I'm wrong with what I'm saying You wanted her to be mentally prepared for this world, because it's not easy to let yourself...

Yes, I wanted to protect her I wanted to protect her because I knew she was a girl. Before you turn 18, what do you face in this world? You go, you make social media...

And I think that grabbing followers, fame, money at an early age... I think we talked about it, that it was something that maybe I failed there because you are not prepared and you fly and you get people who want to be with you, around you to get you benefit in a certain way and since when do you feel that relationship was broken? that relationship for example with your sister in this case, because with Carlitos everything is fine, right?

Yes, with Carlos everything is fine, I have also tried to help him I always tell him to come and do something with me I just feel that he's not in his moment I feel that he still doesn't know what he wants to do because I always tell him, what do you want to do? So he still doesn't know and I would like him to know

I don't want to implement something that he doesn't want to do It's like, you know what? Come here yo que él no quiera hacer. Es como que, ya sabes que, vente, vas a ponerte a grabar esto, y vas a hacer esto, y vas a hacer esto, porque si al final él no quiere hacerlo, no le va a echar las ganas que él quiere, o sea, que él tiene y que se necesita para esto. Y no quiero estar yo, hey, ta, ta, ta, ta, ta. Quiero que él tenga ganas, quiero que él busque, y que él lo haga porque él quiere hacerlo. he wants to do it. Have the initiative. That he likes it. That's right. I don't want to force him to do anything. So I always tell him, whenever you want, you have the doors of my house open for whenever

you want to come here. And I feel that with the Stephanie thing, it literally broke since she got together with Mario, because she left the house. Since then we haven't have much communication. I saw her, I don't know, I saw her for an hour, two hours, in all that time of, I don't know, is that four years?

No, no, yes, four years. She's four years old and I've seen her very few times. We've talked very few times, like before.

Sure, you felt the distance.

Yes, I felt the distance.

Under these circumstances, how would you like the relationship with Estefania to be? That you say, this is how I want it. Well, I would love to

see her more, be more with her, with my brother too. I would like that, obviously, this situation to be fixed because it's not easy. It's not easy to be like this, we're brothers, you know? When I see her...

Yeah, well, in the end, they're brothers. No, and that's never going to end, she's her sister.

Yeah.

Yeah, no, sometimes I see pictures of when she was little and it makes me feel a lot.

Sure.

You miss the moments together.

Yeah, of course.

Yeah, I would like it to were always together. Yes, I liked that it was very different. Kim and Stephanie were always together. In fact, when they were both starting out, I remember that Stephanie had to go to her dates, to the movies, and Stephanie was there. So it was always Kim and Stephanie together.

Yes, well, she didn't like that either. I understand that she was angry, but I had to beg her for that. Kim y Estefani juntos. Por favor, por favor, ven conmigo. Y ella dice, no, no tengo ganas, hoy no quiero. No, por favor, tienes que ir, vamos, vamos. Y ya, hasta que la convencía. A veces no la convencía, eh. A veces si ella no quería, no íbamos. Y no.

Era un no.

Y eso era una rogadera, ok.

Una rogadera. for my dad, for my mom, and also for her. There were three people there who had to be there.

What did you feel when that person you loved so much I mean, you loved so much, you didn't love her, you still love her, obviously. Yes, of course. She started dating Mario. What did you feel at that moment? What was it that you asked yourself? What came to your mind?

Well, for me it was difficult because... to start with, the age. Well, for me it was difficult because... I mean, at that age, I feel like he had a lot of fangs for her. I feel it. I'm going to say it with all due respect. It was what I felt at that moment. So, yes, I feel like she was very immature.

I feel like she let herself be carried away by this forbidden relationship. Of course. That sometimes makes you want to live it more. Yes, yes, yes, like it was fixed. I was also stuck, like no, no, no, how can it be? And I didn't do many things so that this relationship wouldn't happen,

because there were already rumors.

Well, sometimes your sister and everything.

Yes. He said no, Estefania, she said no. I said no, please many men in the world, he, no, he, no I don't know him, I don't know how he really is it could be that they have changed because that can happen, I'm sure people change, I don't know how he is now but at that moment, for me, he wasn't a good man for my sister

so I felt like, I don't know, like I could... how do you say it? Like I could manipulate her. Yes, manipulate her because she was very young. For me, she was very innocent. So, it happened. It happened that she left.

And I said, you know what? It's fine. I'm going to accept it. Because I can't meddle. That's how I feel. If she accepted it and they became boyfriend and girlfriend, that's the end of my word. I can't say more than accept it.

I just said, you know what? At some point, yes, it's going to happen. We're going to meet. And the relationship can be built little by little. And that's it. But it hasn't happened. a dar, nos vamos a conocer y pues la relación se puede ir dando poco a poco y listo pero pues no ha pasado y pues quién sabe si vaya a pasar.

Quisiera también preguntarte sobre la relación que tenías con tu mamá, o sea todos sabemos o sea la situación que te dieron ahorita pero cómo era antes de que sucediera lo que

pasó.

Pues mi relación con mi mamá siempre fue buena, siento. What happened? Well, my relationship with my mom was always good. I feel. She didn't agree with what they said in the video. It's real that they say that Juan... I can't say it like that because it's going to be misinterpreted. But it's like... What they feel, what they said in the video,

I mean, it's real, their feeling, their feeling. What they say, what they said in this video, I mean, if it's real, their feelings, their feeling. What they say is not real, but the feeling is real because all the time they were remarking it a lot, a lot, a lot. And they were saying, manipulates you, manipulates you, does this to you. And they stayed with that. And they stayed a lot. What you were talking about right now, well, aboutno? Exactamente, entonces ellos todavía piensan...

Obviamente ellos lo vivieron conmigo, ¿no? Ellos saben que, ¿sabes? Ella es una niña que es manipulable

Ya entiendo

Ellos claro que piensan que me manipula porque ellos lo pudieron hacer conmigo

Claro, exacto

Entonces es difícil pensar que yo también cambié because they could do it with me Of course, exactly So it's hard to think that I also changed and I'm not the same girl that used to date

Of course

And also here, I'm not the same girl that used to date

Of course

Yes, I also dated for a long time, obviously I mean, our first years of relationship, I was super immature He was my first boyfriend, I did allow a lot of things but that doesn't mean I'll keep allowing them I've changed a lot, you can't even imagine And of course they haven't given themselves the task of coming to my house and check it well

And give themselves the time to...

Like you say, the other side, the other side changed but here too, people change. Nobody is the same trucha from 10 years ago, nor me from 10 years ago, nor Juan from 10 years ago. And there are people who have a different evolution. I understand that point. A point that, because we manipulated you, you are still being manipulated, but now for him. What changes is just who.

It's for whom, it's who you do it for That's right And they think it's still like that I've tried many times in my relationship with my mom to change that I always explained to her Mom, that's over

It's been a long time, please Stop it My dad would send me messages at 3 in the morning remember that you have family and I, what happened?

if they really knew how many times I have invited them to my house so that they can come to be here, to spend time with us, with the kids I really want them to spend more time with me I want them to spend more time with Juan, with my children because I like to spend time time with me. I want them to spend more time with Juan, with my children, because I like spending time with them.

But without that barrier of seeing if they are manipulating me, if I do this because Juan doesn't want to, I wanted to make it clear to them that if something happens or if I set my limits, it's because of me. And that's what they hadn't understood before. So they kept that and that's why I feel like my dad dared to make that video and starts saying a lot of things that have nothing to do with it, really. I don't want to speak ill of them.

It did hurt me a lot. No, it broke my heart. But I also said, why? Why that need to expose my family? To say things they don't know anymore Not even to come and confirm it

Because that...

I don't know

Yes, because I understand that even if it's not a direct attack to you It's actually trying to attack your family

Just like you don't talk bad about them because you respect your sister's partner I respect her partner, I respect my dad and I respect the relationship my parents have I can't go any further And it's the same thing I asked them Just a limit

A limit, exactly

Enough, no more speculation, I always told them Enough of speculation I just want a limit. A limit, exactly. No more speculations, as they always said. Enough speculations. Because they were always there. I don't know if I'm talking to you or to him. And you're talking to me. And if you don't believe me, call me.

Or make a video call. Or come and let's talk face to face.

Just like that. A screenshot was circulated. Yeah, there was a screenshot, I don't know if Juan saw it, that you were talking to her and she was like, okay Juan, and I was like, hey, I'm calling you, why not? Let's see who, I mean, yeah, I get it.

Yeah, that's why I called her, because those speculations they have have been going on for years. And I'm also like, very tired of that, I was very tired. Yeah, of course. Sí, yo fui la que publiqué ese screenshot. Ah, sí, no me acuerdo a quién de los dos había sido. Sí, yo, porque como lo dicen tanto en el video, es como... Yo misma te he llamado, porque crees que ha sido él el que te está diciendo cosas.

Yo te he llamado para que veas que soy yo la que te está escribiendo y no contestas.

Claro.

Y con tu papá, o sea, la relación antes del video. You're talking about before the video because I think, we're going to talk about that later, that it's a before and after, because exposing yourself in that way, publicly, is going to mark a before and after for you.

Yes, and I feel like it was too easy for them. I feel like... they had no idea what it was going to cause.

Why do you think they did it? That they all left?

I don't know. I don't understand it either. I start thinking, why didn't they talk to me? I'm there. I talked to them every day to ask about my mom. Every day. Twice a day. Because they left twice. días para preguntar por mi mamá todos los días dos veces al día porque todos me salía van hacia alguna otra vez tal vez se me pasaba una vez porque estaba ocupada con los niños trabajando lo que tú quieras todos los días estaba ahí

preguntando por ellos preguntando por mi mamá

porque había salido el vídeo antes y tú no haces lado puras cosas buenas de su familia y todo ya cuando se ve este vídeo quien se quedó como que qué pedo I think the video came out before and you had only talked about good things about your family and everything When this video came out, Kim was like, what the hell, what did I do? She was referring to your video about Juan, because I think it was nothing offensive or anything

No, we didn't say anything bad, but what I understand is that you were upset that we were giving 50% As if we had said that we had already given it all

That was the topic

That's what I understood As if you had already given it all 50% como si hubiéramos dicho que ya lo habíamos dado todo ese fue el tema es lo que yo entendí como si ya hubiera dado de alta pues como si ya hubiera dado yo mi 50 y ya cuando no fue así dijimos que como era Es que no me acuerdo no quiero decir algo que no dijiste como era la frase que dijiste

Andale, tu solita to solita lo que te acuerdes y no te acuerdas no pasa nada

dijimos como que estamos apoyando con el 50 pero no dijimos que ya lo habíamos dado totalmente claro y es que a ellos les molesto bueno a ella le molesto que no haya dado yo mi 50% de una ok

porque yo tuve conversaciones con ella yo le decía como que oye como pues ya he dado yo because I had conversations with her and I told her like hey like, I've already given... I'm afraid to say something I don't know I'm afraid. I've already given, I had already given to the hospital so I wanted to know when she was going to be able to give to the hospital

that no one else had put directly to the hospital, to the hospital debt or to the doctors, she explained to me. So I asked her when she told me, when are you going to be able to give the 50%? And I told her, I'm trying to get more because I had already given, but when are you going to be able to? Because I was also like, okay, you press me, because I I want to know when you're going to be able to give too. And she got mad, so she didn't even answer me, she just attacked me, saying,

no, you, if I had what you have, if I did this, I mean, yes, you just don't know, I mean, because of what I'm going through. They got very stressed, I honestly don't understand why I still would like to understand

But they were very stressed because of the hospital debt I was also very stressed, but at the same time Not so much because we had already agreed with the hospital That it was going to be Monthly payments

Of course, yes, a lot, in fact even the hospitals finance you They accept you properties, cars, whatever.

And I was calm because I said, well, we're going to be able to give little by little. You know, so as not to put everything at once, because it's difficult. Imagine how much I had to put, five million at once.

Yes, well, you have it invested in land, whatever, it's a process. And forgive me for this question, but it just came to me, and they had already put their share, I mean, how much did they demand of you? Your 50%, okay, but you?

That's what bothered them, because I also demanded from them because they hadn't put it. They did put, it's not that they hadn't put it, they put other external debts from the hospital, like blood, I think it was just blood. Blood, yes, a lot of blood. Yes, a lot of blood. I also put blood, but it wasn't the only thing, you know? I was in the hospital and the doctors were pressing. I was calm in the hospital, what worried me the most were the doctors, because there was that part, I don't know why.

Well, no, they're supposed to be there. It's weird. Very weird, but well. What worried me the most were the doctors. Like, giving them more... But that's why I asked, when... help me, I mean, I need help. When are you going to be able to... Because I need time to get more and give it.

Ok, so they hadn't given their part, but they did demand it from you.

Yes.

Ok, going back to the topic of the video, what did you feel when you saw it? In this case, I'm going to ask you about your family, your dad. In this case, when you saw him giving those statements.

No, my heart broke. Horrible. Look, I couldn't even watch the full video. And I haven't seen it. I can't. I can't. I couldn't believe it, you know?

It was like... I felt like a betrayal. At that moment. It was really bad for me because I can't imagine myself doing that to my kids. I can't imagine. I don't know. It's really hard for me to talk badly about my kids.

It's the most sacred thing for parents.

But maybe yes. My explanation, so it doesn't hurt so much, is that I let myself be carried away by stress. los papás no pero pues a lo mejor si os a mí mi explicación para que no de la tanto es bueno se dejó llevar por el estrés estamos pasando por un momento muy difícil y ellos solo están viendo como que por ellos tampoco están viendo tanto por mí que no estoy ahí cerca y no me ven sufriendo porque es lo que quieren como que esté allá y esté sufriendo con ellos no no pude estar ahí presente para ellos entonces fue lo que les dolió I couldn't be there for them. So that's what hurt them.

And apart from my mom's situation, which is very difficult, they were too burdened and they just didn't think. And they just did it.

And your grandmother, for example, when you saw her too?

Well, my grandmother gave me a lot of sadness, but... I don't know, like he didn't say anything bad either. I feel like he just said that he needed me, I understand him. But they didn't go to the task of asking me why I wasn't there. It was just like, he's not here and it's because he doesn't want to. I had already told them that I couldn't go because I was in the process of migration,

even since December, I'm going through that. My mom knew, my family knew. No, since December, no, since November.

Yes.

Since November I've been in the process of migration. So, some things crossed paths. In the end, in December I had to leave for the same reason. My mom passed away. I left, even though I had already resumed the immigration process. I left in January and in February I went to see my mom. In March I couldn't go. Now I can because they told me,

you can't go out anymore.

Yes, of course.

You have to stay. Wait. Let's hope it's fast. I was there every day praying, like, God, please, please, let this happen to me Imagine And in April I had it approved And they approved it and that's when I just left a week ago

Yeah, I feel like people said you weren't going because you don't upload anything It's not like I'm here with my mom, here, that's what I'm saying

Well, I don't really upload anything, almost nothing lately I'm very focused on being a mom and it's my process at this moment and since my mom went through this, I don't feel like uploading anything I mean, with what desire? I didn't feel like doing it

If I uploaded something, it was because I felt like it was necessary, but... I didn't feel like uploading anything to my stories or talking about the subject, really.

People don't understand how Kim feels, they just talk about it.

Yeah, no, it's just that... They want to see you sad.

It sounds bad, but... The subject is Kimberly Bison You just mentioned that you just went to Mazatlán, we know that you just arrived literally a couple of days ago And the video of the famous video of Steph had already passed We would like to know how was the reaction when you saw your family after that I mean, when you arrived and you arrived Kimberly, what's up?

Because I imagine that the atmosphere got tense, I don't know I'm gonna do family. I suppose this is a quando you gaste y gaste Kimberly con dos porque me imagino que hubo una se puso tenso el ambiente no sé si se replante caras un poquito

de esto muy tenso.

I got a.

It's to a bastante tenso cuando llegue porque no le dije a nadie no no le dije a nadie yo se enteraron porque pues obviamente también un montón en redes sociales estuvo no pues que estuvo aquí que estuvo acá que la vida aquí en ese In social media, he was like, no, he was here, he was here, he was here at the airport, he's going to Mazatlán.

He doesn't respect the pain of others. That's another part that I don't want to...

He's already in Mazatlán, and he's going to be there in five.

And it was a journey that day that I really left. I don't know why so much had never happened to me. I got up at 4am to get ready to leave I left at 5am, I got to the airport, I took my first flight to Phoenix From Phoenix, I missed the flight

And it was late or why did you miss it?

No, I arrived early, but at that moment I was waiting for the other people to pass I was just sitting and waiting other people to pass I was just sitting there waiting But the flight was oversold So when all the people passed

There were no seats left

There were no seats left And I swear I started crying I was like, please, I can't, I have to go But the guy was like, what? There are no seats left And there was no other flight for that day

There was another flight for the next day But no, I was just going to go for a few days I wanted to take advantage of the time, I wanted to be there with my mom so I started looking for another flight, I found one that was from Phoenix to San Diego and from San Diego I had to cross to Tijuana and from Tijuana to Mazatlán I left at 4 in the morning and arrived at 9 at went to Mazatlán I left at 4 in the morning and I arrived at 9 at night in Mazatlán It was crazy, really

I was super tired, stressed, sad, no, there were too many things and I was like, why so many?

And what I admire about you, because I saw that a lot of people asked for pictures, obviously and it's like, you with a good face, that's what I always say, I mean...

Well, I don't feel like people have to pay for it, you know?

No, of course, but...

I mean, people don't have to pay for what I'm going through. Because they know the situation.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes, no, my respects in that aspect. My respects, yes, really. I respect you for that Well, you said the journey, but how was it? If you want to talk about when you arrived and you saw them

It was very hard, the truth is I arrived and I was already with my mom I arrived at 9 at night and I went to see my mom I asked permission to be able to arrive because they have visiting schedules there

Yes, yes, and twice a day, I think only one hour, something like that, intensive care

It's twice a day And I had already passed the schedule So I asked for permission to come and see her, I stayed like an hour with her And the next day I left early

But there was no one that day?

No, there was no one

Completely alone

Yes, I was alone But the next day I was. The next day I went, they were there. I arrived first. I went in and they arrived. It was really hard, really. I almost overflowed. I don't know how I held it.

But my dad arrived, my sister arrived, my aunt, my grandmother, a cousin. Some pastors also arrived to pray for my mom first. So we were there, we aunt, my grandmother, a cousin some pastors came to pray for my mom first so we were there, we prayed for my mom and then my dad came in and... it was weird

because for him it was like nothing had happened so it hurt me

of course, because they didn't even touch the subject

they didn't touch the subject, they didn't touch anything and it hurt me

And I felt, I don't know, I felt a lot of resentment

So he greets me as if nothing happened I greeted him and he asks me a few questions later, since we left I had asked for something to have breakfast because I went with Cecia And we had asked for something to have breakfast, we were in the waiting room, and we were having breakfast, but I felt like I was having a bad breakfast. I couldn't.

So you wanted to touch the subject.

I touched the subject.

You touched the subject?

Yes. And when you saw Steph, did she greet you normally? No, we didn't greet each other. She didn't greet you?

Oh, no.

And your grandmother?

We didn't talk. No, I did talk to my grandmother, I did say hi to her But yeah, there was resentment I was still feeling it a lot So I touched the subject And she spoke

What did you say? I can't, I'm going to touch it No, I said I can't anymore Because it was like nothing was happening Maybe for them, but for me it was. For me it was very difficult. So we started talking about it.

There is a rumor that there was a big fight, screaming and all that.

Yes.

Everyone knows more than one another.

Yes, we let ourselves go. We said a lot of things, we talked.

Maybe they were waiting for you to play the song.

I don't know if they were waiting for us to play the song, but that's how we grew up. We grew up like...

With screams.

Yes, but it was like... I tell you everything, and I don't fix it. And you don't what? I don't fix it and you don't what? I don't fix it I let it go as if nothing happened

I understand that part because that's how we grow up

it's the family way of solving things

ok

and what happened? what did you do? how did it end? What did you do? What happened? How did it all end?

Well, we apologized. Everything they said was speculation, things from the past. So I hadn't touched the subject. I hadn't told them anything. So I explained it to them and I told them my point. And they also followed their point, but I... I set my limits, I told them what I didn't like, they understood it, and we apologized, they apologized, and that's it.

I don't want to talk about that too much, because...

Yeah, of course, it's hard. Do you think there's another video later or something?

I really don't know. I can't say no because we've already talked about this, but in the end I don't know. I don't know. Because I had already talked to my sister before and I had told her what I liked and what I didn't like. The first time I went because we were fighting Well, we didn't talk

But when I went with you I saw that you guys did talk I don't remember, was it in January?

It was in January, but I told you I talked to her too I got there and the same thing, since we didn't talk It was weird to find her

How long did you have without seeing her when you saw her that day?

Yes, algo Kim

Sí

¿Y por qué no se habían visto?

Fíjate que...

pasó algo muy similar a esto

Ah, ok, pero no se hizo público No se hizo público

Pero esto fue con mi papá Habíamos pasado algo muy similar Había pasado con mi papá Él también estuvo hospitalizado But this was with my dad. We had gone through something very similar. I had gone through it with my dad. He was also hospitalized. And... He was also going through a difficult time, not as difficult as this.

He had an accident. But... I felt a lot of emotions. Because the way things happened to him I felt at that moment and I still feel it that it was an irresponsibility

I wanted my dad to learn something from this I wanted my dad to open his eyes and start thinking beyond and something similar happened, she got angry with me, we talked, she told me many things, almost the same. This happens, three years later I see her in January, I also talk about this with her because there was no opportunity I had tried it in the course of those three years I would send her a message, one or two times if I could

and she would complain, like, I don't know, you're not here I mean, I'm not going

But there are a lot of media out there, right?

Yes, there are a lot of media, but I preferred to do it physically Facially I wanted it in a specific way So I told him, you can also do something to see us and talk You can also say, I'm going to go, or I'm here, or when you have time So you never told him, don't come to the house

No, neverás. Jamás. Jamás cerró la puerta.

Pero bueno, hablé con ella, le dije todo lo que me había molestado, también tenía muchas cosas en la cabeza de... Pues que ella pensaba y cosas que le habían contado, chismes familiares. Cosas que yo también la aclaré en ese momento. Y ella pues lo entendió, también nos pedimos perdón. Y fue como que, ok, volvimos a hablar. Pero pues ya pasó esto.

Ok. Y cuando tú llegaste, o sea, ya yéndome un poquito más directo, ella no te dijo, hey, qué onda, nada, pues, o sea,

directamente de frente, como es pues no yo también le dije pues que onda vamos a hablar o no y me dijo no pues tú pues es que pues tú eres la que quieres hablar también no no pues si ah bueno pues vamos vamos para afuera y hablamos estuvimos como una hora platicando nos abrazamos lloramos o sea siento que sí si hubo algo real Pero pues I think there was something real

But I understand that I am stressed because of what is happening with my mom But it's not the way to do things Everything has to be fixed in private Family problems in private Because this is going to be public for life People don't forget it people don't forget it People don't forget it and they make it much more difficult

Because sometimes you think you've overcome it and everything is fine But then you see something that bothers you because, I don't know, someone spoke And said something that makes sense to you Then you have something with that person again And it doesn't let you be...

Can I explain?

Yes. I got another question. What do you think your mom feels about all this that happened? Or what do you think she thinks?

I feel like she doesn't like this. Because as a mom, I can't imagine my kids fighting. And not at that level I feel like she wouldn't like to see this at all because just before she went into her first surgery I said it in my stories, she talked to us she held our hands, the three of us

she held our hands and said please be united leave all that behind stay united, talk to each other I don't like to see them like that imagine, and that was between us

I think you told me because I was with you, you told me that it's the only thing I ask of them, that they stay together

it's the only thing I ask of us, that we stay together, that we don't let Carlos and that the two of us talk and fix our problems Carlos, y que nosotras dos nos habláramos y arreglaramos nuestros problemas.

Regresando al tema del video, perdón, pero ¿por qué crees que tu hermano no quiso salir en el video, el Carlitos?

Pues yo creo que él lo vio más por ambas partes. I think he saw it more from both sides He also saw it from my side, like... I'm not going to do this to her And he doesn't want to be bad with either of them

More maturely, considering the consequences

Yes, because he knows that publishing it doesn't make sense It doesn't make sense with whom you're getting along

Exactly With whom do you want to get along? It doesn't make sense. It doesn't make any sense who you're getting along with. Exactly.

Who do you want to get along with? Who do you want to change your opinion with?

Especially if we know they're waiting for a little bit of you to...

If you really want to be okay with that person, talk to that person. Don't try to hurt her. Don't do something that you know can hurt her.

After the video, did your family send you a message? No. No one? Carlitos, Stef? No, no one. No one? They uploaded the video and... But you did try to talk to them, right?

I sent a message to Stef Estefan after he uploaded his video of him showing his bank account that he doesn't have a lot of money, blah blah blah I texted him after that because I told him I didn't know you were in that economic situation because we didn't have a good communication

I mean, I don't know how he invests his money or how he doesn't invest it or how he spends it I mean, like everyone else teníamos una buena comunicación o sea yo no sé en qué invierte su dinero o en qué no lo invierte o en qué se lo gasta yo al igual que todas las personas yo veo una vida que ella lleva bien yo no sé si ella tiene uno dinero porque ella no es como que me lo cuenta y el mensaje es anterior y yo le dije necesitamos estar unidas en esto necesitamos tener más comunicación ya que me refería a eso como que yo quería que ella me dijera sabes que yo puedo tanto estos días tú I wanted her to tell me, you know what? I can do so much these days. What can you do?

That's what I wanted to have communication with her because I had told her in a message. But she didn't take it in a good way. She didn't like it.

And well...

It was because of the message, right? Yes, it was because of the message. I always feel like it's misprets or she can get to...

Yes, because you don't know in what tone she is really saying it. And well, I sent her that and I told her that I didn't know how her situation was either. I mean, I was surprised.

Of course.

Wow. Now, knowing this, that you came back from Mazatlán, everything you told us, I imagine the doctors told you how your mom is doing. I would like to ask you how she is doing right now, because you've never told us.

My mom is in a serious condition right now. She had a heart attack 10 minutes ago, about 3 or 4 weeks ago. She hasn't woken up since then. They did a tomography. She doesn't have a brain death, but apparently,

according to what they told her last time, she's in a vegetative state.

Yes, because I see that Stephanie says, my mom is getting better, and she's happy.

No, no, no. Obviously, from the age of...'s happy. Day by day she shows signs that she's getting better.

Because the vegetative state, being very honest, very direct, medically, she's physically there, but mentally she is not. If I don't explain, it's not that she gets better overnight. Her vegetative state is for life. That's why it seems weird to me that she got better, but in reality, I think they removed a kidney or something like that.

So all of that is a life-long sequela. If she is intubated, a heart attack of 10 minutes. is pecho porque de cuenta que en ese tiempo de 10 minutos no hay flujo de sangre con el paro cardíaco entonces a la CRCP reanimación cardiopulmonar pues suples suples la el trabajo el corazón pero no el suplirlo no es de que al 100% o sea no suples al 100% el trabajo el corazón a de cuenta que con la reanimación cardiopulmonar se dice que no más said that only the blood reaches the most vital organs, such as the brain, heart, kidney, the vital organs, but it does not reach other parts, although cardiopulmonary resuscitation is done properly by doctors. I mean, if there's going to be a strong sequelae, that's for sure.

I don't know how long she's going to be hospitalized, but the little I know, without seeing studies or anything, and what you've told me in detail, she's going to be in the long run.

Yes, they did tell us that. She's going to be in the long run. The last time I went, they had told me that the neurologist had told them that

there is no struggle anymore.

It is in a vegetative state, you know if you want to disconnect it or you want to keep it. It's your decision. Yes, it hurt us a lot, but we also wanted to have another option and right now we are looking for another neurologist. The doctors at that hospital told us that for us, by how it looks, it's not in a vegetative state, but in a state of minimal consciousness. Look, you explain it to me because I don't know if that...

Well, I don't understand the minimal consciousness, it's weird because the neurologist said it's in a vegetative state, he's the expert. In medicine, there are specialties of everything. There's the cardiologist, the neurologist, the nephrologist, even the telano. There's a specialist called proctologist. There's a specialist of everything. A general doctor knows a little bit of everything, but in reality, the one who knows the good, the good, is the specialist.

In that case, it's the neurologist. He said that, I mean, it's okay to look for other alternatives, but as long as it's like that, then...

But I have faith. I feel that my mom can wake up. I really believe in God and I believe that he can do a miracle. Because I feel that if... I don't know, but I feel that if she already woke up, that if she was able to live after a heart attack like that, it's for a reason. And yes, I really have a lot of faith. I feel that my mom will be with us. And she will be able to talk about many things that happened to her. I think this is more like a test for us, for her, for her husband, for my dad.

And I feel that it will be something. nosotros para ella para su esposo para mi papá siento que si va a ser algo para

la familia aprendizaje para bien o para mal o sea pero un aprendizaje de unirse o sea no no se ve unido no peleado exactamente la familia cuenta lo que queda no es mi pensamiento no pero ese engo quiera ser pipi volvimos del baño porque Kimberly le está reventando la vejiga literal y a I have to go pee To el tema que dice uno no decide como termina pero tus hábitos deciden el destino Okay, yeah, and say gente Seguro gastos mayores a bit. I make your experience. Yeah, you can see a barrel a lot of positive. Oh, no

Kim te tengo una pregunta que que yo pienso que todos quisieran saberla Si tu mamá estuviera despierta Si te estuviera escuchando mejor dicho que le dirías Wow. What is happening? It's not easy. And if God wants, and we think positive, and he recovers, I would like to hear this, because I know he will.

Yes.

Now that I left, I told him how I felt, but well, if my mom was awake, I would tell her that I love her. I love her with all my heart.

That I will always be there for her, no matter what. She is my mother and for me, how she raised me was perfect. Because she made me the woman I am now, my mom and dad. I know they did what they could with what they had to raise me, my siblings, and I love them with all my heart. I'm so grateful for everything they did for me. My mom. She was always there for me.

I'm so grateful for her.

What would you tell Charlita?

I would tell her to be strong.

I would tell grateful to her.

What would you say to Carlitos and Steph? I know they're going to watch this video.

I love you too. I love you too. For the love with which you love me. For the love. If they one day, well if she, decides one day to be with her. I'll always have my house open to her. My arms open. I don't judge her, you know, because I know it's not easy what we're going through. And sometimes we don't know how we're going through. And sometimes we don't know...

how to... how to carry that energy. We don't know who to train it with, or how to train it.

And we let ourselves be carried.

Feelings, impulses?

In this case, they decided it was like that. Yes, for me it was very difficult. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. What I want to do one day, I will always be there to support you. For my dad too. Always. I will always be there for you.

Wow.

I really admire you, Kim, because forgiving after everything is very difficult. I really admire you and you're a great woman, I'm serious. We love you a lot, you know we always have DG and we show it to you. And we obviously worry about you. Why did you take off your tape? I'm not going to talk, I just took it off because it's a very emotional moment. I don't want it to seem like a game or a joke.

Yes, of course.

Kimberly, that was hard. I don't think it's a game or a ball Yeah, sure Yeah Sure

Oh Kimberly, so hard A little kiss

So cute

For air I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. in this difficult moment. I really... I wouldn't have wanted to be there, but forgive me. I would have wanted to be there for you at any moment. Really, I don't doubt that.

I always want to be there with you. Also for my mom, I'm sorry. If at any time you felt that I abandoned you or I did something that you didn't like or that hurt your feelings, forgive me, mom, I love you. momento sentiste que te abandoné o te hice algo que no te gustó que te o que

te irió tus sentimientos perdóname madre yo te amo y esa nunca va a ser mi intención tampoco te amo demasiado y mi papá también perdóname te amo de verdad te amo mucho yo quiero estar bien con ustedes y como ya les dije siempre voy a estar siempre

Oye Kimberly se me olvidó preguntarte y tus primas que onda? And like I said, I'll always be there for them. Always. Kimberly, I wanted to ask you, what about your cousins? What would you like to tell them? Why did they get involved?

For the same reason. Like Stephanie said, it was a local gossip. So, they talked a lot with each other. They got involved more and more. a local gossip. So, yes, they talked a lot among themselves, among everyone, they got more and more involved. So, obviously, if I come and say, you know what, this person is doing this to me, this, this and this, and the other one adds more things to it,

and instead of saying, you know what, don't do that, talk to her. It was simply like an anger among everyone, they got together to talk about me And I feel like they all let themselves go Because it was a local gossip and they continued the thing

Ok

Hey Kimmy, I would like to ask you about your relationship with Juan You know that he is very commented on social media He manipulates you, etc. I would like you to tell me a little bit about this process since you practically retired from the networks. How are you living it? How is it?

The truth? Well, before this, my mom was living one of the best stages of my life as a mom, as a wife. I feel like I've never been happier and with so much peace, you know? I was really very calm, living my life here with my family. Juan is, for me, I mean, it's not because he's here, I just see him like that.

He's like the perfect husband for me. He's the perfect man. He's always looking for ways to please me, to make me laugh, to make me happy. Every day, every day he's looking for ways to make me happy. And I really don't understand people. I don't know what they need. Or what they really want. Why do they always want to leave it in the bad? I don't understand. What did he do?

Yes, it's fine. The past is gone. It's gone. They haven't realized how we are living life in the present. He's an excellent dad. I really don't know a better dad than him. All the time with his kids, all the time seeing how to be a better dad, investigating, reading, really, it surprises me, I swear. It surprises me because I don't know anyone like that.

And not only that, because he's also looking for how to be a better man for me, all the time. All the time, sometimes, I don't know, I'm so calm and suddenly he comes and says Forgive me. And I'm like, why? What happened? Forgive me for what I've done to you if I've made you feel bad, I want to be good to you and he grabs me and treats me, I feel like I'm a queen next to him

I feel like I'm his queen, really because that's how he treats me and that's how he makes me feel at home I feel like I'm his queen, really. Because that's how he treats me and that's how he makes me feel at home. I feel loved. And people don't understand that.

How many relationships we don't know on social media? How many relationships? It's all good and everything is fine. I feel like Juan has always been very protective of you. Yes, all the time. He doesn't care if you throw me out, but not here

All the time Not because this guy is here, but yes

All the time

And he's not talking

Yes, all the time And the relationship with your kids, I see a child's beauty

No, man, I mean, no, no, no He is, without a doubt, the best. My children love him, obviously. And they're always saying, Dad, you're the best dad, you're the best dad.

Yes, Juanito throws one and you're like, wow, how grateful he is. And Kima, hey, you're so good.

I know without a doubt that I made an excellent choice and no one is going to make me change my mind really, no one

it was part of your process, you know? the process of both well, I see your relationship, it's really admirable the work you're doing is incredible, outside of the luxuries and etc. How they complement each other and how they complement the kids,

that's surprising. I'm really prepared to be a dad watching you guys, because there are a lot of codes, you know? And we have friends who copy a lot of ideas, you know? And we have a lot of friends who give you a lot of ideas on how to treat kids and I see that you love to talk about that

it shows how your life is them and well, Kimberly, right? How well you express yourself about her

And people sometimes, well I've seen now like they grab and, oh Juan being a good dad only in videos but that's such a small fraction.

Yes, of course.

It's such a small fraction that they have no idea. What he records is little, being a dad. Real. Because off camera, I feel that it's still much better than what he says or shows in the videos. He really does the homework. Maybe you guys, parents, don't know, like you don't, you don't think about what he could do, because maybe they don't.

They haven't seen it, they haven't seen it. I think having a common job, let's say, what we are talking about and dedicate the time to a surgeon, very good, right? And go to operate, that background that you leave only to your son, with the babysitter, with the mother, if the work of the bathroom, the engineer, whoever you want, it's time you dedicate to that, well, and you, well, I do see that your profession... All the time, since they get up, you're with the kids.

Until they fall asleep. They have everything.

Yes, all the time we're with them.

And my respect, because when we haven't been with them, it's tiring to play with them all the time.

Because they're used to something. They are used to being there all day. And I've told Juan, my respect. My respect for Juan.

Because I've said, hey, from the moment they wake up until they go to sleep. Until they go to sleep. Because it's night and the kids are always, and now what do we play? And now what do we do?

No, yes, they, pure game.

And I understand now that you have retired to be with them because before they had babysannies yes, before they had nannies one for each and there are many artists that going back to the topic of professions this one is also very absorbing but I understand the point that you retired

because you wanted to be there not nannies, not nothing

I wanted to be the one who raised my children that was your success and I love it because he supported me from the moment I told him, now, now my dream is this And he said, we do it If it's what you want to do, I support you and I will always support you

Yes, if it was manipulated, as they say, you would still be there for money, if it was Avaro

Yes, I would still be there with money, right? If it was Avaro, if it was... I'd still be there with me, look...

Manipulating, recording by force

Yes, yes, yes, yes, I still can't believe it How can you still think that? Don't cover what I say, people How can you still think it's for money when I'm leaving so many things for this, for my core, for my family, for my children

I don't understand. And your career is on the rise, because you go with everything.

Yes.

Well Kim, it's a pleasure to have you here in this space of ours, in this podcast. We thank you for the time, also because of the difficult times you are going through. And well, you know we love you very much.

I love you too.

And we hope that another time you come here with other happier news. mucho y pues esperemos en otra oportunidad vengas por aquí ya con otras noticias más

más felices. Así será, así será, creo, tengo fe de que así será de verdad. ¿Y cómo te sentiste Kim? Me sentí bien, me desahogué, siento que... Terapia. Sí, sí, sí, me sentí como con amigas platicando. Do you have any comments, Trisha?

Any questions for me?

Any questions, Trisha?

I felt calm because the man here

didn't speak anymore.

Ahhhhhh!

And he's still not speaking.

This is a challenge. Thank you very much. You're a great woman.

I admire you a lot. I'm a little bit hard. I wish they put questions No, muchas gracias, que tienes una gran mujer, la verdad. Yo también te admiro mucho. Soy lindurita.

Ah.

Quisiera que pusieran preguntas ahí que faltaron, así, para ver si hacemos otro capítulo, puede ser, y ya puedes aclarar todas sus dudas. Y, pues, Juan, te concedemos la palabra ahora sí, ya para que termines el podcast. Honestamente, si yo puedo decir una última cosa para despedir esto, I have one last thing to say goodbye to this because I don't think we can talk more. This is over.

I feel that the hatred they have for Kimberly is because they kept the story and the version of a damaged person, of a person who wanted to hurt her and not for the truth because they don't know her. Not even what she said can convey what she is as a woman. que dijo puede transmitir lo que ella es como mujer. Ella es mucho más, pero algún día lo sabrán quizá, o mínimo la gente que la conoce y sus familiares les consta

la calidad de mujer que es.

Ay, muchas gracias, mi amorcito.

Te amo.

Te amo más.

Dame un beso, Juan. Nos vemos en un próximo episodio. Talebolivers.

Bye.

Talebones.

Gracias, Kim. Gracias, Kim.

Bye.