Anchor PANICS After Exposed Live About “Antisemitic” UK Stabbing
All right, is this Gaza or Great Britain?
Alex, I have to say, those videos are just shocking.You know, brown people speaking, brown people dancing, brown people voting, brown people being involved in their community.Shocking scenes.Not Britain.Not the Britain I know.Look at these monsters.
They're dancing.Can you believe they're dancing?What are we supposed to do?You just want us to die?
Well, you've been making the rounds on media in the UK.You've been doing some pretty phenomenal jobs, pushing back at Hasbara talking points.Before we get into into the news of the day, I just want to ask you about the recent elections and also the current anti -Semitism panic in the UK.How would you describe what is happening and how it's being covered?
Well, look, it's People, I'm sure your viewers and listeners know a little bit about the history, but basically the Labour Party, similar to the US, the Democratic Party in the US, sort of degenerated from the 80s onwards.You had the DLC in America and in here you had people like Blair take over in the 90s, started like Clinton, pro -war, neocon with some social programs, right?domestically kind of liberal, not like kind of anti -racist discursively, but then like pro -war.And then it continues to degenerate.And then in 2015, you have Jeremy Corbyn, lifelong anti -racist, pro -Palestinian from the socialist wing of the Labour Party, and they do have a socialist wing, or historically had a socialist wing, comes to power.you know, lapsed the competition.
Nobody expects, he barely gets on the ballot internally in the Labour Party.And so there's a kind of full frontal attack from not just obviously Zionists, but alsothe power structure, finance capital, I mean the like domestic and international bourgeoisie, like literally it was like everyone was coming at him.And so they thought they could destroy him.There was an internal struggle there.And then in 2017, we almost win.
And everyone's shocked.And then it's a full -on attack.They're throwing everything at him.And then in 2019, he loses 52 of the 54 seats for Brexit voting seats.It wasn't actually anti -Semitism that did it, but that led to his character assassination.That leads to a right -wing leadership in Keir Starmer and the Labour Party completely beholden to imperial and MI5 interests.
I mean, completely cocked, right?And then you get someone like Jack Polanski, who the Green Party has always been quite good here.You know, it's quite similar to the US.I mean, the Green Party in different places are different.
I wanted to ask you if you had any tips, because we actually have two clips that I want to show of you doing very well talking to adversarial media.And I do want to show them because I think it is actually an important skill for the left to have.And so we're going to show those.What overall are your are your tips for how to deal with adversarial media?
OK, yeah.So if I was it depends kind of.Oh, yeah.Adversarial media is very different, obviously, than doing like BBC or Sky or whatever, where they'll just ask you questions.In the adversarial media, I think it's really a question of, it kind of depends on who it is, but Mehdi Hassan, despite being an annoying liberal, is very, very skilled at this, is that you can latch on to a specific thing they do.So for example, this recent interview, I was like, okay, they're going to come out with, oh, there's all these anti -Semitic claims.
And there are some things that people said that it's like, obviously, they shouldn't be a candidate in the party, right?But there are lots of things that people say, which is like critical of the Israeli state or critical of the IDF or saying, or even being conspiratorial.about, oh, was Israel behind the October 7th?I mean, I don't agree with that.I think it strips Palestinians of agency, but I don't think it's anti -Semitic.I mean, there are anti -Semitic conspiracies.
Not all conspiracies that deal with the state of Israel are anti -Semitic.Well, anyways, so I don't think it's correct anyways, but they, so the point is to like, And what this tactic here was to try to focus on that.So when they ask you like an antagonistic question, you go acknowledge for this and then pivot and focus on the things that you want to talk about, you know?And I think a lot of people get bogged down with, oh, I've got to answer the right.The point isn't, it's like when I was a kid, my dad took me around South India and you go to these temples and it's like, you know, all the noses are chopped off the idols of these temples.And I was like, why are they chopped off?
And he's like, look, when a tribe or a or a army from a different religion comes and defeats this they go to the temple and they chop off the noses and that they go look your gods couldn't even save you and then everyone converts right they don't have to forcibly convert anyone because everyone converts here like these are the sort of physical embodiments of a right -wing ideology of zionism or whatever they're the manifestations that if you can humiliate them this isn't like the marketplace of ideas the point here is to like humiliate them with ideas, but like trip them up or whatever to the point where they don't seem confident.Their idols, their gods are like humiliated.And in that way, if there's any benefit to this, it's to then humiliate the ideology and discredit the ideology by humiliating the messenger of that ideology.
Right, exactly.So we have two clips that I wanted to show.One is where you're talking about the rise of sectarian campaigning, alleged rise of sectarian campaigning, and one is where you speak to Julia Hartley Brewer about the Green Party anti -Semitism scandal.We're going to start with the sectarians.clip.What should people know about this?
uh well i it's called gb news and it's like a like i guess it's fox news and it's very popular and um the other people i'm there with are mps from all the other parties so you had right next to me the labor party mp then you had a lib dem and then you had the tory oh then you had the moderator then tory and then reform and it went from left to right the green party has a policy of not sending elected officials to them so that's why it's like these kind of outriders that they send out to Right, I see.
Right, right, right.
Yeah.Is this Gaza or Great Britain?
Right, what about this?
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Get started freeThis is your chance to bring change to your streets and to your roads.So you must come out, vote for...And here is some independents celebrating their victory.Do you not think that sectarianism is going to be an issue for your party, as we were talking about before, the church is so broad of the Greens?
Alex, I have to say those videos are just shocking, you know, brown people speaking, brown people dancing, brown people voting.bomb people being involved in their community.Shocking scenes.Not Britain.Not the Britain I know.You know?
Frankly, I don't know how we put a stop to it.We demanded they integrate for decades.We're like, they're not integrating.And now they're involved in the political process.And we're like, how dare they be part of the political process?What are we going to do about it?
The main party's got to do something about it.One day, someone could be voting for a Labour Party politician or a Tory Party politician.They go into a ballot box.They vote green.And all of a sudden, he's an Islamist.And it's sectarian.
Oh my God, what are we going to do?
I mean, this is just obviously This is obviously silly.What we're seeing today I'm afraid is the politics of Gaza and other causes around the world being imported to the streets of the United States.And most British people don't want it.So I hope that the Green Party will start to respect the vast majority of British people in this country who care about their communities and their country.They don't want to know about Gaza.What they want to know is about where they live and the best interest of the United Kingdom.
You don't get to decide what people care about.We've gotten the second largest vote share in the country with 18 percent.That means people care about the politics that we're putting forward.And it's not that we—we provided the arms to provide—so Israel could—to perpetrate a genocide.We provided the intelligence so they can perpetrate a genocide.Our government is doing that.
This isn't some politics.We're spending resources, money and the moral fiber of our society in order to defend a state that's perpetrating a genocide.That's what people are against.You're going around telling people...Let me finish.What does deporting people have to do with local elections?
You're running on one policy.Let's deport all the brown people.It's not brown people.It's illegal people that come here illegally.You're running that on local.You think local councillors have the power to do that, Richard?
Do you think local councillors have the power to do that?No, but a reformed UK government would do it.Yeah, but a reformed UK would ban on that for local elections.More room for housing, for hospitals.We don't have police.We don't have the school places.
Huge numbers of people coming into our country.You don't have the power to do that locally.
You don't have the power to do that locally.OK, all right.I think the argument back is you wouldn't have the power to stop what's going on in Gaza.
No, but the things that we are running on locally is to say, for example, pension funds at the local level should be divested from companies that are profiting from a number.Waltham Forest, other councils that have voted on this also went green.OK. um very good uh scaremongering uh at the opening i love that montage of different brown people it's also crazy it was just like these red like literally they're like getting elected killing the game and they're like and then also they're just dancing they just want they that's from i think that was that last one was from redbridge it's likesweeped it and there's like dancing they said they're punjabi and they're like and they're like oh look at these monsters they're dancing can you believe they're dancing Like, what are we supposed to do?You just want us to die?Like, what the fuck is this?
Yeah, in one clip, they they dare to speak another language.And then in another one, they're not they're speaking English.They're just what?
Like, he's got he's like he looks like a kind of.He's got like a Pakistani or Bangladeshi thing, right?And they're like, look, a guy, he's wearing those clothes.He's not wearing jeans.
Yeah, it's really, really insane.Yeah.
And the guy, the guy, the guy from the right, like the reform guy.He's like a ghoulishly fascistic person.He used to be a Tory.He's very pro -Israel, has done multiple trips to Israel.He's like very Zionist.He's like, what does this have to do with this?
It's like your entire politics is about being a kind of factotum to the Zionist entity.So it just felt like, and also the only one -on -one policy, there's only one policy, which is we're going to deport everyone.It's no relevance to local politics, but that's why he was kind of like, he was kind of floundering a little bit when pushed on that.
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Get started freeRight.Yeah.But that was insane.Well, that that was pretty great.And then we have this other one where you are talking about anti -Semitism issue.Tell us with Julia Hartley, what is what is the U .
S., the non -U .K.
audience need to know about her?So the one that we just watched was the night after the election.And this one was a few days before.And they basically were running this kind of massive smear.It was that morning that the Labour Party had dropped this dossier of like 30 councillors who are like, it was all like, Jack Polanski's face all mangled.And they're all it's all like, kind of like, scary green font.
And it was like, this is why they're, it's the same tactics.did, the sort of right of the Labour Party did under Jeremy Corbyn, but, and it was like, all these terrible things they were saying.There was also like some accusations of racism, actually, the party central, the Green Party central, had sort of been like, yeah, we'll investigate people.That's it.They were like, just because they, look, the party's expended so much, they don't have necessarily the resources, and there isn't the political cohesion to like have your message disciplined, to be like, no, this is like, these are just, There's a process in which you can file things and blah, blah, blah.So they're like just investigating.
And then they made that a headline like, they're investigating 30 people.To be investigated doesn't mean anything.It just means a complaint is launched and we are now responding to the complaint.
Yeah, it's like damned if you do, damned if you don't.If you respond to it, it's a problem.If you ignore it, it's a problem.
Yeah, if you acknowledge it, you go, yes, this is an issue.Then they're like, do you have a problem with anti -Semitism?Why won't you apologize?Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.It's like feeding blood to wolves.You think, oh, that'll satisfy them.
No, now they want your hand and your face.
Right, exactly.All right, so let's take a look at this.
Is that a trope?Did I just do a trope?No, no, no.All right.Well, I don't know.I'm just like, I've just been in general.
I mean, she's not even she's not even Jewish.Well, she's very coded language for Jews.I'm just kidding.Not at all.I mean, if like that, I don't even know the rise of the wolf as Jew.
Oh, no, I don't know.I'm sorry.We could talk more about issues, but I don't think that this is...
OK, well, let's do that.Let's talk about issues.One thing I think we can all agree is a big story is the fact that we are seeing a massive increase in physical and verbal attacks on Jews in this country.The stabbing of two Jewish men by an alleged suspect, who currently has already been charged, believed to be an Islamist attack, has caused great concern.We've had big summits in Downing Street, and we're going to be...-tracking hate crime prosecutions and the like.
Now, there's no doubt at all there is a problem of anti -Semitism within the Green Party because the Green Party itself is investigating no less than 30 candidates who have been publicly identified as having made, posted or said or written blatantly anti -Semitic things, calling Jews vermin, rats, celebrating the October 7th massacre, suggesting that Hamas are resistance fighters.I mean, you are a Green Party activist.Let's talk about the issues.Is it an issue if you support a party and a party has as much support as the Green Party has garnered in recent months, which is basically siding with Islamist extremists and anti -Semites and is putting up candidates in local elections who are blatantly, outrageously, disgustingly racist against Jews?
Okay, so firstly, we have over 4 ,500 candidates.We've gone from a party six months ago that was 60 ,000 to now having 230 ,000.And so, yeah, of course, there needs to be a more thorough vetting process.But it's not that those 30 candidates are being investigated for anti -Semitism.They're being investigated for a series of comments, some of them racist, some of them sexist, the accusations of that.They haven't been found guilty of that.
And a larger portion of them are guilty of being critical of the state of Israel.Some of them, of course, are anti -Semitic, but a lot of them aren't.
But no one's being investigated for being critical of Israel.
That's not true.The list was released by a labor dossier this morning.I'm sure you've seen it.And they are, for example, retweeting the Bob Dylan lyrics about debt to the IDF.I'm sorry, Julia, but that's not a crime.We're allowed to criticize and even call for the death of a foreign army.
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Get started freeIf I said debt to the IRGC, should that be criminalized?If I said debt to the Russian army, should that be criminalized?Should I be deselected as a labor candidate or a reform candidate?
The vast majority of these candidates
are being investigated.I think there are parties that have platforms and those platforms are the policies upon which we run on.Individuals who may have tweeted things years ago out of a massive list of candidates, I think that is not an accurate representation of the party.And I think I would say the same thing for labor, I'd say the same thing for reform.
When it continues to happen again and again and again, you're saying it's a vetting problem, Again, you could argue, why do those people think that the Green Party is the home for them?
Do you think that reform is a racist and sexist party because of the dossier that was released by Labour last week?
I don't think so.But I think they do have a problem.
Why is it one rule for reform and one rule for...
No, but I didn't say the Green Party was anti -Semitism.I said you've got a problem with anti -Semitism.
It's a different thing, isn't it?No, I don't think there's a problem with anti -Semitism.I think that a small proportion, a small proportion of candidates who've said things in the past, they're being now investigated.
candidates is an indication.There are questions about the likes on posts and the retweeting posts from not only Zak Polanski but also both deputy leaders as well.That would suggest there is an issue.
Tell me specifically.
There are so many pieces of paper in front of me.There's so many.I can't find them.I'll message you afterwards but you will have seen them.
I want to know.Please inform your viewers.I haven't seen them.I'd like to know which leaders have tweeted out.I'm desperately trying to find them right now.I can't wait to hear them.
I'm literally in the edge of my seat, Julia, waiting for you to give us this vital breaking news.The anti -Semites are running the party.
I'm also held back by the fact that I can't actually lead through things with plaster on my fingers, but there we are.Oh, no.Well, you know, these are issues.Green party leader shared a conspiracy theory.Rachel Millwood, deputy leader, co -deputy leader, shared a conspiracy theory about the Golders Green attack in which two men were stabbed.Shared a post which claimed a third victim of the day was Muslim had been raised to suit a weaponised, desperate narrative.
I mean, that's just That's just one example.
Because aimed at Jews is the viewpoint, pretty much.anybody involved.But why not even mention that a Muslim was attacked first and he was hospitalized actually but you know his name is Ishmael Hussein he was hospitalized and we should name that that his life matters too that's not anti -semitic that's not anti -Jewish hatred to simply mention the other person that was also stabbed.
Well no I think it's not the mention of it it's the idea that the reason it's not mentioned is because it looks pretty.
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Get started freeLet's talk about... that you should have mentioned that earlier in your program?
On the day when I was on air, on the Thursday after that event had happened and I went to Golders Green, there was only talk of two victims at the time.But do you think it's a problem that we don't mention?The authorities only spoke about two victims at the time.If you want to take that up with the Metropolitan Police, that's an issue, isn't it?
But then you've just given the story and you've only mentioned two of the victims.Three were stabbed.
The Met Police and the Prime Minister keep talking about two Jewish men being stabbed.Yeah, but you're a journalist.You're a leading journalist in this country.Who was being targeted?A Muslim and two Jewish people.
A Muslim and two Jewish people.
And you think the Muslim was targeted because he was Muslim?
Well, I don't know, but I don't think we should not mention that.I don't know the full story.
Well, you've mentioned him, but there we are.Can I talk to you about...I've got very little time.
Maybe I'm guilty of conspiracy theories because I've mentioned him.
Well, you think there's a conspiracy theory, Brad.I don't think there is.And I think suggesting there's a conspiracy theory...No, there's no conspiracy.I'm saying that I'd like us to mention him.Can I talk about some other policies, for the love of God?
Please, please.We've got very little time.
I love that.She's like, I'm trying my best to be a stenographer.for these institutions who do not mention that there is a Muslim.So can you please stop demanding that I not do that?
The other thing they say, oh, what do you what's your advice on things?It's like when your opponent is on the ropes, don't let them go.Keep hammering, because it's about destroying the object of the ideology.
Right.No, it was great.You didn't insult.It wasn't offensive and it wasn't insulting.So it was above.It was perfect.
If I do say so myself.Yeah.
Thanks, Katie.That's very kind.Yeah.But yeah, I think that the thing is, it's I would just say this.And you have people like, you know, I'm not I won't name specific names of people in the party who've been in it for a long time who look what's happening.And they just they want to they want to placate and they want to say, no, no, no, no.
So there was someone who was on election night doing a mainstream show.And they say, what about these problems?She's like, we're dealing with it.They're not going to have no role in the party.I'm like, you think that that will satisfy people?You think you're doing the right thing?
No.That's why she says, I didn't say you're anti -Semitic.I said you have a problem.So then what happens is they say, you would agree that a little bit that it's a problem.The minute you say, yeah, okay, maybe we have a problem.Then it's like, look at what happened to Corbyn.
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Get started freeHe then finally was forced to say there's a problem.Then he's like, apologize, apologize, apologize.Like he wasn't even apologizing over and over again.It was like, he doesn't apologize.He needs to apologize.Does he condemn this?
Does he condemn that?You're just drowning in the shit.
Yeah, exactly.Even a Green Party activist admits this is an issue.
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