Andrew Tate Speaks Up After Jail | #ABtalks with Andrew Tate | Chapter 250

How was jail?How do you find a way to escape an active extradition warrant?How the fuck are you traveling the world instead of being in jail?How do you do that?Well...What do you say to people who think you're misogynistic?

Do you think you can empower men without diminishing women?I'm trying to tell people what I know to be true.Why?I'm gonna say something controversial.Fuck it.Back to Jim.

I know your relationship with your brother is very strong.How was your relationship with your sister?But do you think that's an easy blanket statement that all women won't be able to help you?I can't answer the question competently.I'm sorry.I think you're one of the most misunderstood men in the world.

You believe that still?Hey, Andrew.Good to meet you, sir.First time we meet in person.First time.Funnily.

Yeah.I'm assuming there are common people we know.Well, we're both in Dubai, right?And Dubai is one of those cities where people know people.Yeah, I say that, you know, they say there's six degrees of separation in the world.I think in Dubai it's two.

Maybe one.Probably.Probably one degree of separation in Dubai, but that's a good thing.You know, everyone kind of knows each other.I mean, it can make it a little bit of a rumor mill, but I also think that's part of the cohesion that keeps it together, even in this recent catastrophe that Dubai is supposed to have been suffering from.You see how many people actually stay here and love this place and have shown their dedication and loyalty to the city, and that's because of the people they know inside of it.

Of course, it's the relationships they make when they're here.So I kind of like that it's a small -knit community.I kind of like it.Common question.How are you really doing?How am I really doing?

See, what I like to do is talk about the question instead of answer the question.I'm going to tell you my tricks.What I normally do is instead of answering the question, I talk about the question.And of course, that question is implying that people lie when you ask them how they're doing, because most people just say they're fine.You say, how are you really doing?You want the actual truth about how the person is doing.

I think I'm doing very well.I think I am getting everything that needs to be done, done.Which is how I measure my life.I measure my life in brutal competence.If there's X amount of things that must be completed, as long as they're completed, I'm happy.Irregardless of how I feel while I'm completing them or how I feel at the end.

If I'm sad the entire time or depressed or stressed the entire time, as long as they get done, I'm happy.If that makes sense.I can be happy and stressed at the same time.I can be happy and miserable at the same time.In fact, part of me is happy when I'm miserable.I enjoy being miserable, like a grumpy old man.

You know, like the grumpy old man who takes the kid's ball and punctures it because they kicked it over the fence?That's a little bit me.If I have to be in a bad mood to get things done, then I'm happy to do that because I want my things done.So how am I really doing?I guess, A lot of people would answer that with quite a emotional, intangible answer.But for me, my answer is very tangible.

My empire is succeeding and flourishing.My children are fed. I'm alive and breathing.I have enough money to buy most of the things I want.So I think I'm doing very well.And I don't think how I feel actually has anything to do with it at all.And that's why, to go back to what I said earlier about talking about the question instead of answering the question, when people ask me how I'm doing and I say fine, even if I'm in a bad mood, I will still say fine.

And I think I'm telling the truth, because I am doing fine, because I'm alive and I'm breathing.Although when most people ask me how I'm doing, I don't say fine.I say, if I walk into a store, in fact today I walked into Louis Vuitton and they said, how are you Mr. Tate?And I said, rich and stressed, which is the truth.So I'm quite truthful from the beginning.But how I'm really doing, well, everyone's eating and I'm alive.

So I think I'm doing pretty good.And you know, to elaborate on the question, I don't want to necessarily say people intentionally lie I think most humans have realized that nobody gives a shit how they're doing when they ask that question so they automatically say I'm fine because they know if they actually sit down and tell you for 10 minutes how they're feeling you'll be like ah I didn't expect you to actually answer the question so the person asking the question is not authentic and genuine and humans feel that and they don't want but if I say Andrew how are you really doing you actually have to take a moment to be like oh shit he actually wants to hear it.That's right, and we're not used to hearing it because a lot of us are autopiloted, right?How are you doing?Fine.You?

Good.It's all autopilot, all this small talk, this introductory chat.So you're right, most people answer because they know people don't care, and people don't care because they have their own problems, their own stress.And there isn't a single person on the planet who doesn't have stress and problems.I actually have this outlandish, crazy theory that basically everybody is the same level of stress, depressed, and anxious, irregardless of their situation.I would say that the most famous, well -known rich people on the planet, or the people who can barely pay their bills,

everyone is feeling the same level of stress depression and anxiety and How people deal with that is the difference in the personalities as opposed to whether they feel it or not Because there are people out there who sit and believe ah, if only I had this and this I wouldn't feel this way anymore Or this person's life's fantastic.They must not be stressed or anxious and none of that's true Because problems are relative I've caught myself doing this.I'll have a huge gargantuan problem.For example, 25 years in a Romanian jail.And I'll have a huge issue to deal with.And it's all I think about.

And it stresses me out.And the second I fix that problem, the next day the gardener doesn't show up.And I'm just as angry about the gardener not showing up as I was about perhaps losing my entire life to Romanian jail.I'm like, why is the grass not caught?I paid this guy early.He asked for money.

Now he hasn't turned up.He's drunk.Find me a new gardener.Before you know it, I'm just as mad about a small problem as I was about the big problem because I've solved the big problem.So even if you have a fantastic life, you're always going to have small issues.And I feel like You just make the problems bigger if there's no big problem to fill the space.

I think everybody is basically the same level of stressed.Everybody has something they're preoccupied with.Everybody has a degree of anxiety.Everybody has something they're not happy with.Everyone, to a degree, is slightly depressed about X, Y, Z. And the difference in the personalities are simply the people who complain about it, talk about it all the time, or let it get them down, as opposed to the people who say, OK, well, this is the human condition.This is how life is supposed to be.

I'm an adult.And I'm never going to be happy like a child ever again.So this is how I'm going to deal with my life.I'm going to look at all the problems, accept them as serious, and smile anyway.So I don't think anybody is any happier than anyone else, to be honest.And the reason people think there are some people happier than them is simply because they have a better social media editor.

They have a better camera.They can capture the right angle and get a good edit.And then they can convince the entire populationat home that they're happier than everyone else around them, because that's what social media is.It's an envy tool.The primary objective of social media is to try and convince other people to envy you.

And there's some people who are pretty good at it, and there's some fools out there, unfortunately, who believe it.They'll look at somebody, on a holiday, having the time of their life, and they'll sit there and go, man, I wish I could afford that holiday.But if you could really see that holiday outside of the edits, and you could see all the waiting at the airport, all the lines to get to the tourist attraction, how many times they had to try and take that picture with no one in the background, the time they argued with their boyfriend, their credit card got lost, that if you go through it all, you'd be like, that even doesn't even look fun.One thing I noticed about life, and you probably know about this as well, but especially if you have an online life, having fun and filming yourself or recording yourself having fun are completely different things.Like, if I go out in my Bugatti to have fun, and then we try and film it, it looks awful.If we try and record me having fun in the Bugatti, it's like, okay, back, forth, no, do it again, no, turn around, do it again, okay, when you do it this time, window down, okay, you end up doing it, it's like a Hollywood movie, and by the end, you're having no fun at all to try and get this edit where you're having fun.

And that's the lesson for these people you see who are on holiday or doing all these amazing things.If it looks too fun, they've tried too hard to make it look that fun, meaning they've had no fun.And this is the, man, I see this all the time.You see girls sitting there on their phone, bored.They don't even wanna be there, but I guess, you know, their boyfriend's paying their rent, so they have to be.And they're sitting there, and then they get their phone out, they start their Instagram story, and they just do this again.

So the story is imparting, but the reality is, they're miserable.But they'll put the act on for the full six seconds.And this is why people are caught in these spirals, in these traps of believing people are happier than them, and that they're more miserable than others, because everything is comparative.But truthfully, the secret to everyone at home is that everybody is the same.Everybody has the same degree of stress, anxiety.depression, irregardless of their personal circumstances.

That's what I truthfully believe.I don't believe anyone's really any happier than anyone else.It's just about having the mental fortitude to say, I don't care whether all these bad things are happening.I'm going to smile anyway.This is the secret to life.Do you think, Andrew, that, you know, on the social media part, I had a guest in New York who said, you know, social media is you displaying your greatest hits.

And that's what you do, you choose the best moment out of the concert, you choose the best moment in your Bugatti, you choose...And it's nothing really wrong about that because you're trying to share, I guess, your best moments of a week or a trip.But the challenge is people getting fooled thinking that little moment is your life.Of course.And that's very...Inaccurate absolutely true, but there are some people who don't show their greatest moments They cry to camera or they try and show their worst most negative moments Because unfortunately social media is a game of trying to trick the algorithm and to trick the algorithm You have to get people interested and to break people out of apathy They have to see something abnormal if you sit there and say it's an average day and I'm enjoying my cereal No one cares.

If you sit here and go, this is the worst day of my life.I'm going to tell you how everything went wrong for me.Maybe they'll care.They sit and say, this is the best day ever.Do I drive my Kernan Zeg -Yasko, my Pagani Hyura, or my Bugatti Chiron?Hmm, which one do I drive?

Top G. They're going to sit there and say, I hate you so much.But they're still going to comment, which is good for the algo.So it's all about trying to trick these algorithms.And this is the matrix now.This is the matrix we live in, because the algorithms control everybody.The algorithms control everybody's behavior.

The algorithm controls how people reply to certain things.The algorithm controls what you see.It controls what you think.Most people's brains are one shot fried by the algo.You have people who are depressed because they're in a depression spiral of constantly seeing people outperform them.You have women who are depressed because they're not happy with their boyfriend because they've seen girls with boyfriends who get g -wagons full of roses and private jet flights and their boyfriend can't afford it.

And they sit there and go, why does this girl deserve all of these things, when I don't have these things?Well, the truth is, it's because she's a prostitute.That's why, but they don't say that.So you're sitting there being envious of a prostitute, a life you wouldn't even really want if you knew the truth of it.So the algo is the matrix now, and it's got everybody going down these rabbit holes, whether it's highlight reels of people's lives, or there are other people who, you know, they put something up which is negative, they show sadness, they show that they're depressed, they cry, and they get more attention than they've ever had.So what does that do to the human mind?

If I show that my life is terrible, I get more attention, more recognition, more validation than I've ever had at any point in my life.Well, let me do that again.The next day, I'm not gonna say it's fine.You're gonna do that again, and that becomes your entire personality.The algorithms are controlling everybody.And that's the matrix.

This is here we are because, Society by and large, I mean even me now, I go on Twitter, I can't tell what's real and what's fake anymore.It's impossible to even tell what's real and what's fake.You can't tell who's real, you can't tell who's fake.All of this is completely organized to push people in certain directions.And if you want to truly be yourself now, you have to get to the point where you just unplug.Social media used to be about showing your real life.

and trying to be a real person and being able to achieve validation globally for doing that.But I don't think that's the case anymore.I think the only way you can be a real person now is to turn that crap off.Because these algos are so smart at pushing people in certain directions.And nobody who's watching this at home can be honest and say that they're immune to it.Nobody's immune to it.

They decide what we care about.Like, what you're shown on the algo is what you're going to be obsessed with.All the news cycles that we have thought we'd never forget.The Epstein files was the biggest deal in the world.Six days ago.Everyone was talking about it six days ago.

Now it's Dubai is gonna collapse, supposedly.And next week, it'll be something else.Forrest Gump, the movie.If you've ever watched that movie, at the beginning of the movie, it starts with him on a bus stop.But before you see him on a bus stop, you see a feather floating in the wind.And the story is that his life path was just, he's a guy being pushed from place to place.

He didn't really have any control over any of the things that happened to him.And that's how most people live their lives.They're a feather in the wind of algorithms, which is pushing their attention from place to place, deciding what they care about, deciding how they feel.Imagine waking up in your house with your wife or your husband or whoever and your child, and you've got your job, you've got your savings, you've got your hobbies, you play paddle, you do whatever.You've got your entire life.And you wake up and you open your phone.

The first video you see can decide whether you have a good day or a bad day.Think about that.You could be on the bus, or the tram, or in your Mercedes, or in your fucking Pagani, whatever, on your way to work, and you can see a video of someone who had something terrible happen to them that makes you feel grateful for your life.You could see a couple in love that makes you feel grateful for your partner.Or you could see some prostitute on a yacht who's partying and you're sitting in traffic.And now your day is ruined.

The algorithm has controlled how you view your own life.And these people still believe they're sentient.And this is the world we now live in.The algorithm decides who's liked, Who's hated?Who tells the truth?Who lies?

This is the reality of everything.So, you know, going back to your earlier question, how are you really feeling?Well, I think that's not up to people anymore.I don't think people decide how they really feel anymore.I think the Instagram and TikTok algorithm decides how people feel now.And that's what's scary, because who knows how these things work?

Who elected these people?Who's in charge of these things?What money pools are behind these things?So it's a scary world.And I guess, you know, Perhaps part of my detachment from my emotion, part of me saying, I'm going to do X.things.

I have certain objectives I'm gonna complete, irregardless of how I feel.If I'm monumentally depressed and suicidal, or in the best mood I've ever been in, it's gonna change absolutely nothing about my performance.These things are gonna be done, and they're gonna be done to the best of my ability, irregardless.I think the reason I've done that and detached myself from my emotions is to reduce the power algorithms have over me.If you piss me off, I still do the same things as I do if I was happy.If you make me happy, I do the same things I do if I was pissed off.

So you can't beat me.You can't control me.Because all you can do is influence my emotions.And my emotions don't control me.You have to detach from your human side to a degree.You have to pre -decide.

These are what things I'm going to do.Here's how I'm going to conduct myself.These are the way I'm going to act.These are the things that will be done.And when all of those are done, I am fine.How am I really doing?

My things were done.The algorithm tried to upset me.It tried really hard.It tried to piss me off.But even if it succeeded, I did the same things.If I asked you, who are you, Andrew?

I am the son of my father.And I think that the easiest way to look at life, especially as a man, is in that very simple way.paternal regard.You are the son of your father.You carry your father's last name.You are here to represent him into eternity.

It is your job to not only create sons, but be the kind of father to your sons that can create a lasting legacy for your father, their grandfather.So I think my primary objective on Earth is to be the son of my father.I think this is the best thing I can possibly be.I try my very best to be as competent and successful as possible because This is a man's primary objective, his power and resources.This is what we're here for.Our primary objectives are not to be happy.

Our primary objectives are not to be content.You know, I've had to be content.so many times with women I'm dating or whatever.They're like, but what makes you happy?I'm like, I don't need to be happy.I need to be rich and powerful.

Stop talking.I have things to do.They're like, yeah, but you're stressed.Of course I am, because I'm trying to win.How am I going to win without being stressed?How are you going to win without being stressed ever?

How are you going to succeed without going to war ever?Everything you want, everyone else wants.You either want to go take it off them or you're going to let them have it.I can avoid stress if I work in Starbucks and smoke weed and play video games all day, but then I'm a fucking loser.Then I'm not my father's son anymore.So I'm my father's son and I'm here to complete tasks which fulfill his legacy.

That's what I'm here to do.And how I feel about it has nothing at all to do with the simple objective reality of the fact that he birthed me so that he lives forever.And that's what I'm going to do my very best to achieve.Is it true that your first name is Emory?Correct.Oh really?

Yes, Emory Andrew Tate, same as my dad.Emory?Emory Andrew Tate, yes, same as my dad.So you're number three?I'm number three.I love the name Emory, and I wish I used it.

And as stupid as this sounds, because I've been called Andrew basically my whole life, it's a bad habit.What's your name?Andrew.I want to start saying Emory, but now everyone knows me as Andrew Tate.I can't really change my name.I'm globally famous Andrew Tate now.

It's kind of annoying, but...My mom used to shout Emery in the house and we both answer.So she goes, you know what, you're Andrew and you're Emery.So I wish I still had the name, but my son will be Emery Andrew Tate, of course.My sons will all be Emery Andrew Tate.Your childhood in three words.

I think it was regimented.It was disciplinarian, but it was happy.What's the difference between one and two?I think that a regimented life is very good for a child.I think you need to understand and learn from an early age.that there are certain things that must be done because a greater power structure told you that they're going to be done.

Disciplinary, and I understood very well that there was red lines that if you cross them, violence will appear.I understood that.Now, when you say that, people think you had a bad childhood, which is not the case.I think I had a very fair childhood.I think there's nothing more fair in this world than saying, here's the line.This is what's on the other side of the line.

If you want to jump over the line, you've been warned.And that's the childhood I had.And after jumping over the line maybe twice, I never went anywhere near it again, because I understood.But I had a very happy childhood.I was born with amazing parents, and my parents had no money.And perhaps my biggest struggle now is my concern that I think the best childhood you can have is good parents and no money.

Unfortunately, all my children have a rich dad.So that's a bit of a struggle for me. I'm trying to work out, but I don't want to give all my money away.I worked hard, so I'm going to fix it.But I had a fantastic childhood.I had a really great childhood.And when I say I had a great childhood, I'm not saying it was easy, very much like I'm saying I have a great life.

But if you're happy with who you are, then you have to be happy for everything that happened to you to make you who you are, which is the good and the bad.So I have a great life.It's not an easy life, but it's a great life because I'm happy with who I am.I'm happy with the end result.I'm happy with the adult I am, so I have to be happy with the childhood I had.And I try my best to replicate it for my children.

I see children now all over the place telling their parents what to do.I can't believe how kids act nowadays.I'm flabbergasted.And everyone said to me, wait till you have kids, you'll see, it's not so easy.It turns out that they're fucking liars and they're useless and they're idiots.And it is actually that easy.

My five -year -old will, quiet, quiet.Like my kids listen to me. I see five -year -olds running around.the place and making a mess and ignoring their parents and all kinds of insanity.Everyone in the Western world tried to tell me that was normal and that's the way it is when you have kids.Turns out they're just failing as parents.They're just failures.

I was raised in a very strict way and I obeyed my parents and my children obey me because it is my job to make sure my father lives into eternity, which means my child must be the same or at least similar to my father, even though they're never going to meet.My dad died before my son was born, but his grandson must be similar to him.That is my objective.So yeah, I had a great childhood, but I'm not going to pretend it was a typical childhood.I wouldn't say it was typical, not for the Western world at least.Spoiled kids piss me off, and what pisses me off more is knowing how lousy of parenting they're getting at home.

Because kids are a mirror of their house.Absolutely.And when I go to the mall and I see these tantrums, I'm like, first you're annoyed with the kid, but I'm like, Enes, you should direct the annoyance to people who are not even equipped to have kids.Absolutely.And that's where the frustration is. I think I come from the 80s.And it was like my mother would just look at us, I swear, and her stare is a stare.

And my mom had this weird punishment.she would put us in the room with the door open and she says, I dare you to step out.We not do, don't step out.My brother would do this.He's like, look, I'll just put my foot out.Like we were a bit rebellious, but we would never step out.

And there was this, until now we're close friends with my mother.Because there is, my mother always kept telling us till today, mother first, then friend.Father first, then you become the friend.But even when your son, inshallah, 25, Andrew.you're father first.Of course.

Don't forget.Of course.Not, oh, I'm his buddy now.No, you're never going to be his buddy first.Absolutely.Absolutely.

And you're right.And this is partially one of the reasons why, especially the Western world, it's completely cooked.Like it's fried.Because as a parent, You're no longer just fighting the negative influences of your child's social circle.You're now fighting the entire internet.You're fighting the most entertaining product that's ever been created in human history.

You're fighting the algorithms.Like you have to have enough control over your child to override the garbage They're digesting through a screen which is designed by AI is designed by the most sophisticated computers on the planet to hook that child and entertain that child to Influence that child to watch it more so they can make money from your child.Your child is going down a rabbit hole and And you have to try your very best to drag them out of it.If you have no control over your child's psyche, if you can't say, put the iPad down, because I said so.Why?There is no why.

I'm dad.Because I said so is the why.Put it down.If you don't have enough control to do that, you've already lost your kids.You're no longer raising your kids.Your kids are being raised by the internet.

Your kids are being raised by their school.Your kids are being raised by their algos.And you're not gonna, I mean, it's amazing to me that these parents who have no control over their children, you haven't raised your kid for 10 long years.For 10 long years, he's been down rabbit holes you had no idea of.If the algorithms can control a human adult mind, imagine how they're gonna destroy the minds of children.And you see it happening right now.

The primary objective of this computer code is addiction.That's the primary objective of the computer code.So the only thing you have to compete against it is for your child to respect you enough that you can drag them away from the algorithm long enough to keep them here forever.real world, to keep them breathing outside of the matrix.But, yeah, this is why all these kids act this way.This is why they act so insane, because their parents aren't raising them.

They're being raised by garbage television, garbage on YouTube, garbage Internet, garbage TikTok.The kid's not even yours.Why are you having a child that's going to end up nothing like you?My son's going to be like me.Whether he wants to or not, people say, what if he doesn't want to?He will want to, because he's my son.

He's not allowed to say, ah, but this YouTube video convinced me to do X, Y, Z. I don't care.Otherwise, we're going to have a big problem.Would he be a better Andrew?Or you want him to be like you?Well, I want him to be the better version of me, of course.Of course, I want him to be the better version of me.

But I want everybody to one day see someone on the internet and go, that's Andrew Tate's son.What's his name?Before they even know his name.That's Andrew Tate's son.Wait a second.I've seen this before.

That's the primary objective.People are out here having children.In fact, no one's having kids.But the few people who are having kids, Aren't even doing it to replicate themselves or better themselves.I don't know what their motivations are, but I can't think of any motivation Why am I going to produce?Organic biological matter.

Why am I gonna go to work to find money to pay for that matter?Why am I gonna keep it alive for it to have a completely different mental imprint and be somebody else's child?It's my kid and he'll think like me and to do that I have to fight all the other forms of influence which are there trying to control his mind and it's primarily Algorithms.You know, the entire world, and I say this often, and I feel like it's misunderstood.I've said it a few times before, but I'm going to say it again.When you look at motivations for nearly anything on the planet, there's money, there's power, but both of these are actually forms of influence.

The entire world is a battle for influence.That's all the world is.And you as an individual have X amount of influence over your wife, over your children.children, over your co -workers, over your friends, X, Y, Z, whatever.But you are in constant battle at constant war with the other forms of influence that exist out there.And some of those forms of influence are genuinely destructive and want you dead.

And you have to keep that in mind.So people say, Andrew, why do you work so much when you already have enough money?Or why do you need to do podcasts late at night?You could go to sleep.I'm like, no, there are groups, there are shadow cabals of influence which want me in the ground, dead.And it is my job to live for as long as possible.

So to do that, I need to be as influential as possible.Even if you're a man at home and you're watching this, you don't have to be famous, but you need to be influential in your household.You need to be able to come home to your house and have influence over that house.If you have no influence over that house, who's controlling it?If it's not you, it's someone else.Does the other person controlling your house have the same vested interest in the well -being of your family that you do?

Because I would argue they probably don't.They probably want to extract from your family.They probably want to just get them watching adverts so they can take as much money as possible and get them addicted to garbage.They want to make them drug addicts, dopamine addicts, sitting there scrolling all day.So the entire world is an influence battle.It's never ending, it's never gonna go away.

Even the hot wars, even the kinetic wars we're experiencing now are simply a battle for influence.It's a battle for influence in the Middle East.It's a battle for influence anywhere.And if you get large and influential enough, sometimes, and I can talk from personal experience, you get to peek behind the curtain and see these other influential groups that you're fighting against.If you're a fish in a fishbowl and you don't ever really push to the limits of your freedom, You don't feel the fishbowl because it's glass and you can see through it and you think you're living in the ocean and you swim around a little bit.But if you swim far enough, eventually you get to like a glass wall.

And you're like, ah, wait, so I am trapped.There is something here.And I've seen what the glass walls are.Somebody told me, one of my guests, he said, you know that children today are mostly orphans?And I'm like, what do you mean?He's like, if you live in a household with absent parents and you're being brought up by an iPad or a nanny, you're an orphan.

Facts.And I'm like, yeah, I never thought of it, but it's such a convenient thing to, you know, just give your child to something else and then, you know, because it's convenient and easy.You see, they want to shut up a child, go to a restaurant, iPad in front of them.Of course.90 minutes.Yep.

I'm like, what are you doing?Like, don't have a kid then.That's right.You can't give that time.Of course.And the reason they're doing it and the reason they can't even, even the parents who know it's wrong still do it.

It's because they themselves can't put the iPad on.They're no better.Humans are just as, you know, adults, most adults are just as stuck.And I'm not going to sit here and pretend I'm a saint.I'll openly admit I have a phone addiction.And I think anybody, any adult who's telling the truth will say the same thing.

You can't say you don't have a phone addiction.We all have phone addictions.They're addictive things while all the world's information on the planet in my pocket and I'm sitting here on a bus stop or whatever.Of course it's entertaining.And I know I have a phone addiction because when I was in jail for the first week, I kept reaching for a phone I don't even have.I'd be sitting in jail going, oh, I'm in jail.

That's a phone addiction when you're reaching for a physical object You don't even have when you're walking in sweatpants and you feel it in your pocket and it isn't there.That's an addiction, bro So like we've all got phone addictions Of course we have but the best thing you can do at least is to be aware of your addiction at least be conscious of it I often rearrange my apps because I'll catch myself like I'll go to signal orI'll go to whatsapp and I'll go to telegram Yeah, yeah back to signal and then check Twitter and I my thumb moves so automatically I'm like, you know what?Let me just bingo this let me just change it all Let's play Scrabble and I'll move it all over so that I catch myself clicking on the calendar or some random bullshit app But I'm like see I clicked on something I'm just so used to just clicking on that crap, but I'm just clicking on anything now So when I rearrange them once a week, it helps me a little bit but I'm no better than anyone else.We've all got phone addictions.And we need a phone.

And we have important things on our phone.Like, I wake up in the morning, it takes me two hours to clear my phone.By the time I go to sleep, when I wake up at 9 a .m., when I'm in the gym, it takes two hours in between sets to get through all of my WhatsApps, all my Signal, all my Telegram, all my emails.Two hours to get to zero before my day begins.

And I can't sit and pretend I don't need to do those things.So, of course, I'm addicted to my phone because I need to do those things.I'm running a large empire.I need to make my money.And everybody at home is the same.You have your own problems, your own life.

You've got your 10 wives, whatever.You've got stuff to do.I get it.But to be better than the rest, at least you can admit and be cognitive of the fact that you have one.At least be conscious of the fact that you have one.You know, so much of life is not about being the fastest runner.

It's just about being faster than the slowest guy.You know, we're all being chased by a lion.You haven't got to be the fastest.You just got to be faster than the slowest guy.Slowest guy is going to get eaten.The lion's going to get the first guy it can and it's going to eat.

You haven't got to be the fastest at the front.You could be somewhere in the middle, right?So we've all got phone addictions, fine.But you're going to do so much better than everybody else if you sit there and go, you know what?We've all got phone addictions, but I accept I have a phone addiction.I'm now going to be aware of my phone addiction.

I'm going to catch myself doom scrolling.I'm going to catch myself wasting time.I'm going to rearrange my apps.You know what?Actually, how many times has my algorithm decided my mood for me this week?You know what, how many of my opinions come directly from things I've been shown by an algorithm which is designed to control me?

Let me be conscious of these things.I'm not even going to change them.I'm just going to be the guy who knows it's happening.And then you have an advantage over the number of people, because there are a whole big group of people who don't even know this is happening to them.They're being programmed completely unaware.and they're the ones who are gonna get eaten by the lion first.

Because when the next big catastrophe comes, the next COVID, whatever it is, when those people hook, line, and sinker, believe it, even if you still believe it, you'll sit there and go, I believe it, yeah, but I believe it because they've made me believe it.So is it actually true?I mean, I've seen the videos, but why did they all pop up now?Like, why are they showing me all these things?You know, here's a life hack that I give everyone at home.This is a genuine life hack.

If you wanna see, The Matrix is real.Have you ever heard people complain that if you talk around a phone, you start seeing adverts for the thing that you talked about?And people start saying, hey, I was talking about jelly babies or jelly beans, and then I opened my phone, I start seeing adverts for jelly beans, my phone's spying on me.First things first, fucking no shit, Sherlock.Of course it is, idiot.I mean, of course it is.

You press a button, and then it can listen to everything you say and transcribe it perfectly.And you think that it only does that when you press the button?You think it's not listening to you all of the time?Of course it is.You can't even turn it off.You know what happens when you turn it off?

You dim the screen.It's still on, and it's listening to everything you say all the time, whether it's, hey, Siri, or not.Even worse, forget press the button.You press the button, it listens to everything you say.You haven't even got to press the button.You've got to say, hey, Siri, and then it starts listening.

So how does it know you said, hey, Siri, unless it was already listening to everything you've ever said?And now we all know that it's transcribing that and using AI to work out how it can sell youthings or put you in jail, one of the two.So one of my life hacks is like, I'm okay.This is what's happening.Everyone's complaining about it.

I have a fantastic life hack.I just use it really conveniently.So next time I need something, next time I decide I want to buy a new car, I just say to Tristan, I don't even unlock my phone.I just get my phone and go, what's the best car of 2026?I just talk into the mic while it's locked and put it in my pocket.And next time I'm on my phone, it pops up.

2026 car rankings.I'm like, oh, thanks.Very convenient.So you don't even have to unlock your phone anymore, guys.Just start talking to it about shit you want.Just put it on a table and say, you know, I want this and this.

What's the best ways to make money online?You know, what's the smart, what's the best ways to work out?How do I get in shape?How to lose belly fat in six weeks?Just talk out loud to your phone.It'll give you everything you want.

You can't escape these things.This is the matrix.This is where we are.And what's actually scary is the future, when Neuralink and all these things come.That stuff scares me.Because when they start broadcasting adverts directly into your child's brain, I mean, yeah, I can tell my kid to shut up.

And I can tell my kid to be quiet.I can tell my kid to sit down.I can do that.But can I really compete with a Neuralink directly into his mind?You know, then it's over.The simple answer is don't get the Neuralink, but of course, very much like don't get a phone, for a certain amount of time that's possible until you become uncompetitive.

How do you run a business without a mobile phone?You're gonna lose to the guy who does have a mobile phone.How are you gonna run a business without Neuralink when there's some other guy who has all the world's information being broadcast into his brain instantly, and you're gonna sit there like a dumbass while typing it in with your thumbs like a fucking orangutan?So this is the future, this is the matrix.Humanity is over.The human experience as we know it, love, You know, meeting a beautiful girl and falling in love and her not being completely mind warped by TikTok and Instagram and you being from a small town and loving each other and being happy with what you have and being content and having children and having a little family and you being the king of your little castle, all gone.

It's all gone.Now, if you meet a small girl from a small town, she's 17 years old, you're in fucking trouble.it doesn't matter.She's been bought a G -Wagon already.She's got men from all over the world.She's got Maldives, she's got this, she's got that.

You're competing with hedge fund managers.You're some 18 -year -old kid from Nebraska.What chance do you stand?Zero.So, the human experience of love is completely gone.The human experience of emotions will soon be gone.

Everything we know about being human will soon be gone because we'll be half robot.If you understand this world, you understand that once we're half robot, who's going to be in charge of us?Because some people will say, oh, the governments.No, because the governments are currently outside of Dubai, which is probably the only competent government on the planet.Outside of the UAE, the governments aren't in charge of the countries either.The money is.

The banks are.They're going to be in charge of you.And no matter who you vote for, if you still have free will to vote at all, because we know they're going to control that.But even if you have free will, it doesn't matter who you vote for because the big pools of money are going to be in charge of all of this.Who elected them?Nobody.

Who's in charge of the American government now?The money.Who elected them?Nobody.Here's where we're going.Being human is over.

This is the last generation of humanity where you can sit and go, I'm a human being and I feel certain things.I do certain things because I'm human, you know?And perhaps, This is one of the reasons why I can take my emotions at face value and not let them consume me, because if I ever do feel sad or depressed, I sit and go, wow, isn't that beautiful?Because I'm human.You know, the future is a scary place, and we're not that far away.We may even see some of this stuff in our lifetime, sir.

So I guess the white pill of all of this is that if you're watching this, next time you feel sad or you feel depressed, you should enjoy that emotion.You should sit and go, you know what, this is what being human is all about, to feel this way.because there's going to be a whole bunch of people.I often think about the future and I think about how insane they're going to think.we were for living the lives we lived.Do you ever think back to like the 1500s and think, that must've been crazy, what, that just like random knights would turn up marauding and just start attacking your village and killing people, and you get the plague and you die of the Black Death, and if you don't, if your wheat crop fails, you starve to death.

It must've been so crazy back then.But I would argue, although bad things happened, of course, most people probably had a pretty normal, pretty good life.Imagine when everything is full self -driving in a hundred years and they talk about how we used to drive our own cars And they'd say what people drove their own cars You'd say yeah, and they say well, what if they crashed well, then we got mangled in a fireball and died But how did they stop them crashing?Oh, there was a red light and a green light Yeah, but what if they ignored the light then people died or they didn't see the light and people died What if they're mentally ill then people died now to us is so normal But in the future they're gonna see it as completely insane and they're gonna do this with everything and the thing they're gonna do this with Most heavily is emotions that people got angry.They're going to say, humans used to get angry and when they got angry, especially the men, they got violent.And when they got violent, murders happened and people died.

But now no one gets angry anymore.Welcome to the new Utopia, Neuralink 2 .0.No one gets angry ever again.We're all happy here, sponsored by Kellogg's.Are you still human?Okay, so look, this is how we're going to do this interview because I think you have great Catalyst ideas, but I want this to be as an hybrid as possible So I'm gonna always bring you don't be sure don't feel it's weird.

Sure.I'll bring you back to you and we go back Absolutely life.No problem Is how was your relationship with your mom and dad growing up?So you click pause?Why do you click pause?I hear this often that people that watch the show they click pause when I ask a question because they ask it of themselves or their friends or their family and then they have a conversation.

So me and the team we worked for over two years to do over 70 questions here with a die and some QR codes where I pop up but the point was to take the conversation outside the white studio.You know, we're blessed to have these conversations, but what if we want these conversations to go to different homes and different friend groups and colleague groups and really have intimate, deep, strong conversations that maybe you've never had before?So that's why we created this game and it's had very good feedback.People love it and I hope you love it too.Try it out and let us know.The website is there.

The link is in the caption.Enjoy it and let us know.My mother's primary objective was to keep me alive.which was to feed me, bathe me, put me to bed, normal things, run the house.And my dad's objective was to teach me about the world and imprint his mindset upon me.So they had very specific jobs.

And I think I had a fantastic relationship with both of them.I think I had the best parents on the planet, truthfully.My mom was very good at her job, my dad was very good at his job, but the jobs were very distinct.You know what was crazy?I read that your dad was a genius chess player.Yes.

Like some of the top people talked about him.Yes.Like if he went ever just that he would have been Yeah, he was an amazing chess player and it's chess was a different game back then than it is now Because now computers have ruined it but back then it was a far more creative inventive game Because you couldn't just throw a situation into a computer and analyze it and see what the correct answer was back then creativity worked Now it's much harder to be creative chess is no longer about trying to win.It's about trying not to lose So the games changed massively.Similar to football.Yeah, of course, like every game.

But yeah, my father was a brilliant tactician.He was an offensive player.It was blitzkrieg.He was prepared to take massive risks.And perhaps sometimes it didn't play off and he lost, but Sometimes he had some crushing victories because of that.So he was a world -level chess player.

I was raised playing chess I was on track to be a grandmaster myself until my mother and father broke up They divorced and I left America when I was 10 and moved to England.I lost my chess coach But um, I'm kind of glad I didn't pursue chess at that level now because chess isn't what it used to be Anyway, I feel like back then I don't know chess used to be more gangster like I now I see the world's best chess players and I see him like on Chess .com and they're on Twitch or Kick or whatever.You have Carlson and you have Nakamura or whatever.And they're extremely impressive as chess players.It's incredible.

And they seem like such nice guys.And they seem like I'd love to sit down and talk to them.They're great guys.But it's not like scary.I don't know.Maybe I was just a kid.

But when I grew up in chess, it was scary.I'd go with my dad to a chess tournament and there'd be like two ex -KGB agents.One guy with a tinfoil hat on.One autist rocking in the corner.My dad, six foot five black guy.It was scary.

It was like the Cold War was still going on.America versus Russia.The Russians would barely speak.They'd sit there stinking of vodka, looking at you angry, and they still had a 2 ,600 rating.It felt like a mafia world.And now I look at chess, and it's just so sanitized.

I guess, to be fair, that's not just chess.I guess that's most things, to be honest with you, like the idea of going traveling the world in the early 90s would have been a far more daunting task and cultures would have been so much more different.Now everything's so transparent.I don't know.It's hard to explain.I'm hard to get this across correctly, but...

No, I understand because I'm an Arsenal fan.and I remember when there was this huge rivalry in the tunnel before the game between both teams.It was the Vieira, London time, and Thierry Henry, and then you had Roy Keane.And you could see how eerie and intimidating the tunnel was.That's right.And in the game, there's a red card for sure.

Of course.Now they're like, yo...Yeah, best friends.You use the word sanitized.There are pros and cons.Yes, it's better when people maybe empathize or understand each other, but there was something nice with this intimidation.

There was genuine rivalry, there was genuine friction in the air, there was genuine chemistry in the air, and that's lost from chess, and I think it's lost from a lot of things now.Everything has been sanitized, you're right.And it heightened performance.Of course.If we go back to the first human who was running away from a lion, he probably sprinted better than ever because there's a lion.Absolutely.

So if you go into a game and you really don't hate the other team, sure it looks better, but you're not going to go to that dark place where you're like, no way I'm losing.No way.Of course.Because I'm going to die if I lose.Absolutely.The same lion chasing me.

Absolutely.So I think the word sanitize is a very good word.Well, the reason they've sanitized it is because it's the masculine essence to have that deep level of competition.between you and another man.That's the masculine essence in and of itself.And they've tried to sanitize masculinity as a whole.

They don't want deep competition.They don't want deep tribalism.They don't want any of these things.They don't want distrust between men naturally.They don't want competition between men naturally because It's masculinity that protects the society.So masculinity has been under attack for a very long time because they intend on enslaving us all.

So to do that, you have to get rid of the society's warriors.You have to get rid of the people who are prepared to stand up and say, no, we're not going to listen to you.This is what we believe in.Do you think that's why you became very popular?Because you fell into a gap or something that's made you popular?in the world?

Yeah, I spoke three or four years ago, I spoke to the heart of every man, repeating things to him that he innately knew were true, but was told his entire life were false.So his entire life, he was told the sky is green, even though he saw it as blue.And I came along and said, no, it is actually blue, they're lying to you.And that's why I became so immensely popular.I couldn't have become so popular without telling people things that they also believed.The mainstream narrative, the algorithm, the matrix, they would have you convinced that I was this evil, toxic influencer, but it's actually impossible to become one of the most well -known people on the planet through pure hatred.

You can't go out in the world and just be an evil, mean person and become the most well -known person on the planet.That's not how the world works.People have to have an affinity to you.They have to agree with what you're saying to a degree.They have to amplify you.There has to be a conversation around you.

Sure, some people are going to disagree.But if everyone disagrees, there's no tornado.You need the positive and the negative.You need the hot and the cold air.You need the yin and the yang.So a whole bunch of people were agreeing with what I was saying.

And I was just saying the things that every man at home knows innately to be true.And that's why they were like, wow, someone finally said it.I always felt this way, but I was told I was wrong, and then someone's finally said it now, so maybe I'm not wrong.And masculinity is what the system fears most heavily.Think about what we were just talking about.The system, not politics, because the system is not politics.

Politicians are there to take the blame.The system is money.The money is behind the AI.The AI is behind the algos.The algos control your kids.Of all the children that exist in the world, whose children will they struggle to control?

The masculine father's children or the weak father's children?So it's masculinity which is their enemy.What did I say earlier?Everything in the world is a battle for influence.Masculinity in and of itself is influence.If you're a masculine man, you have influence over your domain, you have influence over your company, over your wife, over your children.

That's why all the people who are trying to brainwash us and psyop us see masculinity in and of itself as an opponent.They're like, wait a second, masculinity is influential.If a bunch of men believe a certain thing and they're masculine men, they'll fight for it.Well, that's a problem because we don't want them to believe anything besides the things we tell them to believe.So let's just attack masculinity by and large.We don't have to go through and try and decipher and dismantle every single belief that masculine men have.

We can just disarm all the men.Then it doesn't matter what they believe.Like what is even masculine left anymore?What do we have?We live, one of the reasons I moved to the UAE is because it's not this way, but the Western worlds are a gynocracy.But this is all done on purpose.

None of this is an accident.It's all battles for influence.It always has been, always will be.It's just pools of money and battles for influence.In my household, to go back to the question, because I want to make it easier for you.In my household, my mother was in charge of feeding me and keeping me alive and putting me to bed, yes.

But the influence in the house was dad.Dad said this.It may as well have been God from the clouds spoke when my dad spoke.That's how it ran in my house.That's how it's always run.But that's not the world that children are growing up in anymore.

Is there a trait in your dad that you wish you could have changed?My dad's genius was also his flaws.There's no light without dark.I know that even me as a person, if I self -analyze, I have a whole bunch of negative characteristics which are spun off the back of my massively positive characteristics.There's no such thing as a free lunch.You don't get anything for free.

So my dad's genius, as impressive and asamazing as that was, did come with some huge downsides from a personality perspective.But to change the downsides would have taken away his genius.So there's no such thing as a free lunch, you know?And I think that's also another source of a huge pool of human unhappiness is this belief that you can achieve or have a certain thing without the exact opposite of it being also inflicted upon you.I say this all the time.

You know, my girlfriend will say to me, she'll say, I love you so much.Duh, of course, top G. But you're always so busy and you always have all these girls around you because I'm me.You love me because I'm me and I'm busy because I'm me and the girls are there because I'm me.Yeah, but can't you not be busy and not have the girls around you and still be you?No.I mean, I can, let me tell you a horror story.

This is a horror story.Imagine this.This morning, I woke up, I went downstairs, and my Pagani wouldn't start.Heartbreaking.I had to drive my Bugatti.Horror story.

I know.I hope no one has to suffer with this terrible life that I live.My Pagani wouldn't start.Now, if I want a car that starts every time, I can buy a Toyota, but it's not a Pagani.I can't say, I want a Pagani that starts all the time like a Toyota.If I start saying those things, I'm a retard.

That's not how the world works.You have to choose.You have to make a choice.You have to decide.There are a certain amount of good things that come with this person, but every single one of those good things will have an attached negative that you cannot remove from the equation.So I can't have taken away any of my dad's negatives without removing the positives.

And I think that those positives were so important for shaping me that I'm glad he was exactly the man he was.I wouldn't have changed a thing.I know your relationship with your brother Tristanis very strong.How was your relationship with your sister, or is Janine, right?Yeah.

We still speak.I have a fantastic relationship with my sister.We still talk.I'm going to say something controversial.Fuck it.Back to Joe.

I've never really, I mean, I've never truly completely understood brothers and sisters who are ultra close.I think you should be close because they're your family.But to be ultra close like me and my brother are, I'm not sure how that would work.With a sister, you mean?With a sister, like a full -grown man and his full -grown sister living together.I think that's weird.

I don't know, some people do it, but I think that's strange.I talk to her, she's my sister.Hi, hope you're well, hope you're good.Yeah, she has kids and everything, she's happy, I want her to be happy.If she needs anything, of course I'm there.But she's my sister.

She's not my brother, you know?And I'm not even saying I love them differently, I'm just saying the relationship's completely different, you know?Because your brother is your brother.You can live with your brother, you can go places with your brother, you can do the same things, you've got the same interests.If you have a problem, you can approach it together.Like, there's no problem in my life that my sister can help me with.

Because I don't really need emotional support.That's what women are for.And when I've already talked and larped on for ages about how I don't need emotional support, I need to fix my fucking problem.And if I need to fix my problem, I need men to fix my problem.You know?I don't need someone to say, it's gonna be okay.

I don't need to hear that crap.Because it's only gonna be okay if I fix it.So I don't need to hear the emotional side.So if I have a problem, I don't call women.Not just my sister, my mom, my girlfriend, anyone.I don't call women.

Oh, hi.I've got a problem dear.Hi wife.I've got a problem.It's gonna be okay that what the fuck is this doing T this guy's trying to kill us again to kill him first like Problem -solving, but do you think that's a easy?Blanket statement that all women in your point all women won't be able to help you or there are certain women that would be able to help you It's absolutely a generalization.

Hmm.I'm generalizing.Yeah, but by and largeyou have a very difficult stressful life I think that 99 % of the times if you get to call one friend to help you with 99 % of your problems outside of Emotionality as a man, you'll call a man if your car breaks down halfway to Oman, you're gonna call a man, most likely.If you get kidnapped, you're gonna call a man, most likely.If your business is failing, you'll probably call a man, most likely.

If you wanna borrow money, you're probably gonna call a man.Like, it's all gonna be a man, most of the time.Women are there for emotional support.Now, I'm not saying that that makes them, I'm not saying that's not an important thing.I'm just saying I don't often need that thing.But there are some times you need it.

I say these things and people think I'm hating on women.I'm not saying that.I'm saying they have a superpower and they're very good at specific things.And men are very good at other specific things.You just have to decide, as an adult, if a problem comes your way, do you want to feel better about the problem?If you want to feel better about the problem, call a woman.

If you want to fix the problem, call a man.They're different things.Perhaps call a man, fix it, then call a woman and feel better, and then you get both.I'm not trying to be anti -female.I'm just trying to explain that my relationship with my brother is linked in so many things, like work, problem solving, we went to jail together, court.Me and my sister don't have any of these links.

She can't help me with these things.What do you say to people who think you're misogynistic?And I want to make a little point here before we continue because I feel there are certain terminologies on the internet that are very loosely used.For example, misogyny, if you go to the Greek background, it's hating women as a group.So it's a human who just doesn't like women as a whole.There's very different about chauvinist or sexist or misogynist.

And I think people don't distinguish and they just throw these labels or trauma or trigger.Like we use such terminology so loosely.So I wanted to put a bit of context before.Okay, so firstly, you're absolutely correct.People use it loosely.Why do they use it loosely?

Algorithms.You know, there was a really interesting video once when I was first thrown in jail.People used to walk around America and go up to random girls on the street and say, what do you think of Andrew Tate?I don't like him.Why?He's a misogynist.

What does misogynist mean?And they couldn't answer.They were just repeating what the algorithm told them, and they didn't even know what it meant.Am I a misogynist?Do I hate women?Well, if I hated women, I wouldn't have so many children, so of course not.

Am I chauvinistic?Probably a little bit.I would say I'm realistic.That's what I am.If you're a realist, like if you're truthfully a realist, if you go through the world and say, you know what?I want to be as competent as possible.

We're all playing a game.It's a game that I didn't want to play.It's a game that I was born into, and it's a game I cannot opt out of.It doesn't matter if I move to the deserts of Sudan.I'm going to need money.I'm playing an economic game.

I'm playing an influence game.I'm playing a power game and a status game.I'm forced to play it.And I want to be as good at it as possible.So to do that, I need to learn the rules as well as possible.A grandmaster and an amateur move the pieces in the same way.

The grandmaster just understands the game better.So for me to be a grandmaster of life, I need to understand the game.To do that, you need to be as realistic as possible.when it comes to pattern recognition.If you're as realistic as possible, if you're truthfully a realist, you will hold some views which are chauvinistic and you will hold some views that are racist and you will hold some views that are homophobic.You're going to hold those views if you're a realist.

I will drop my five -year -old daughter off to a daycare filled with women.Would you drop your five -year -old daughter off to a daycare run exclusively by men?Do you hate men?Are you a misandrist?No, you're a realist.Pattern recognition.

You've been through life enough and you're experienced enough to go...know what?I sense something.This isn't right.I don't like this.You don't hate men.

It's not about hating them.It's just about pattern recognition.So now let me use another example, and I'll say this again.In my personal experiences, I've seen women, when something unexpected happens on the road, panic.and crash the car.And I've seen men, when something unexpected happens on the road, stay calm, swerve, remain in control of the car, and not crash.

Therefore, if I'm going to take a perilous journey or drive a car really fast, I trust the man to drive more than I trust the woman to drive.Now, do I hate women?Do I want women in concentration camps?Or am I just realistic?Because I've seen enough to know that when women are driving and they're having fun and something happens and they panic, they crash, and a man, I've seen them do amazing things because they think quicker.I'm not saying that women are bad.

I'm not saying I hate women.I'm saying that, sure, by and large, women can drive, men can drive, sure.But at the extremes, if something extreme, unexpected happens, I trust the man more than the woman.I trust a male pilot more than a female pilot.If I'm in a plane and my pilot's a woman, I'm more nervous.Shoot me.

But this is the truth, because I'm a realist.I'm not saying no women can fly.I'm not saying there aren't some women who are better than all the men.But exceptions don't disprove the rule.If I say men are stronger than women, people go, what about this girl?She's really strong.

Well, yeah, she is.But by and large, men are stronger than women.We don't have time to talk about all the outliers.That's not a conversation.I can't sit here and say to you, men are stronger than women, except for this one, this one, this one, this one.How do we even have a conversation?

That's stupid.By and large, I have certain views, which I've evolved over time from personal experience, which make me all of the bad words.I'm homophobic with certain of my views.It's true.I'm racist with some of my views, it's true.I'm chauvinistic with some of my views, it's true.

But I'm just trying to be as realistic as possible.The number one objective of the Matrix primarily is to destroy your ability to recognize patterns.That's what they want you to do.Humans evolved to recognize patterns.We were in a tribe and we saw our friend go try and pet the tiger and he got his hand bitten off.Then we saw someone else try and go pet the cute little tiger, and he got his hands bitten off.

And we sat there and go, ah, if you try and pet the cute tiger, your hand gets bitten off.I've recognized a pattern here.This is how we've survived.They want you to ignore pattern recognition so they can control you.This is what they want to do.COVID was the perfect example of this.

They want you to ignore your own eyes.I didn't believe in COVID, and I didn't get the vaccine, because I walked around outside, and I was like, everything looks fine, so whatever.Here, right now, if you go on Telegram and you watch the news, you'll be terrified.If you go outside, are you scared?Do you see a drone?Do you see a missile?

You know, it's all about ignoring your own mind.That's what they're constantly trying to get us to do.So, if you're truly free, if you're a sovereign individual, you're not going to be controlled to the point where you're going to ignore pattern recognition.If you sit there and observe something, like, men are better in stressful driving situations than women, and you're afraid to say that, well, then you're controlled.You're controlled because you're scared.You know it's true.

You've seen it.You think it, but you're scared to say it.Well, now you're controlled by the system.I'm not scared to say what I think.I'm not even saying I'm right.It's just what I think.

Perhaps I have lived a completely unique human experience.Perhaps I'm absolutely wrong.Perhaps women are actually better.at driving under stressful situations, but through bad luck or fluke chance, in all of the times I was in a car with a woman and something bad happened, she managed to crash, it was like lightning striking over and over again, perhaps.But it's still my view, and that's what I think, and I'm going to say it.Now, the funniest thing about this is, the funniest thing about this is, when I say these things, there's so many men, white knights, who go, that sounds chauvinistic, that's bad to say about women.

You know what I say when I say this around women, you know what they say?Yeah, I'd rather the man drive, it is stressful.They agree with me.Women, I've never had a negative interaction with any woman in my life.Everyone seems to believe on the internet I'm hated or whatever.I've never had a girl come up to me and say anything negative in life ever.

In fact, they all say, you're so funny.I love that you tell it like it is.Not to one.Never in my life have I ever had a negative interaction with a woman ever.I've had two negative interactions in my life.In the last six years of global infamy, I've had two negative interactions ever, both with men.

And both of them were them standing way over there and shouting something.You mean in person you've never confronted a woman?In person, I've never been confronted.Online is different.Online is, online's not real.Online's algorithms.

Online's bots.Online is a whole ton of crap.But in real life, which is the only thing that matters, because online is pixels on a screen, that doesn't matter.It doesn't exist.It doesn't exist to me. I could read a million hate comments, it doesn't exist.I'd read a million love comments, it doesn't exist.

In real life, I've never had a woman say anything bad to me, ever.I've had two guys, one in Seattle airport, when he was about to get on his plane, goes, I need to change socks, and got on his plane.Tough guy.And me and Tristan just looked at each other like, okay.So I've had that.And we've had one other jackass.

We've had two from men, never from women.So if I'm such a terrible chauvinist, I mean, I clearly do not offend women that hard, clearly.And the thing that's most crazy to me is that most of my ideas aren't even really unique.They're just ideas everyone had 20 years ago.20 years ago, when the whole family got in the car, who drove?I feel, look, I might say also something that can be controversial, but it's an opinion.

I do think it's funny how the internet has programmed so much tippy -toeing and everybody's so scared to say anything or have an opinion, literally, just have an opinion.Of course.That everybody wants a universal opinion.For example, you tell me, Anas, I tell you I like white studios.You're like, no, I like black.I'm like, no, you're stupid, white.

And you're like, no, Anas, I also like the black color studios.Now I'm trying to force you that a white studio is better.Instead of saying black is also cool, white is also cool.That's right.Can we just agree that there are two nice colors that are very different?Absolutely.

When it comes to masculine and feminine, I think something has happened in the last, I would say two years, where a lot of the talk now is about masculine energy and feminine energy.And a lot of women are tired of being extremely hyper -independent and trying to do the paying the bills and trying to be so strong at the household because the man is weak.And they're telling, like I was talking to her, she's like, I actually want to call a friend to fix my tires because I'm tired.Of course.And I think there's this wave of women who are saying, listen, we do understand men and women are not the same, but they're as important.Of course.

Equal importance, absolutely.If it was the same, we'd be in the same Olympics.Exactly.If we were the same, we'd be useless.What's the point in having marriage or men or women at all if we were the same?We're of equal importance with different capabilities.

Men are amazing at certain things.Women are amazing at certain things.That's what makes us an amazing pair.But what you said earlier about opinions is really interesting because the Matrix wants everybody stuck in the middle.It doesn't want anybody opinionated in any particular direction because then it makes it very hard to drag you in the opposite direction.The system hasn't decided what it wants you to think yet.

So it wants you in the middle so it can drag you to the left or drag you to the right, whatever wants to drag you up down.If you're already really far one way and they decide they want you over there, they have a long way to drag you.So they try very hard to keep you in the middle.This is really important.To keep everybody in the middle, They have now built an internet with so many fake profiles, so many bots.Every single person who has died, their account hasn't been deleted.

It has been changed into an AI version.All of these Facebook accounts, all of these YouTube accounts, all of these Instagram accounts, all of these Twitter accounts are all bots.None of it is real.80 % of the traffic you see online, 80 % of the opinions you think are real people are all bots, and it's controlled.And the primary objective of the bots is to keep you in the middle.How do they do that?

They do that by, as soon as you express any direct opinion in any direction, conservative, liberal, right, left, black, white, up, down, left, right, it doesn't matter.Any direction, you're instantly attacked.And most people don't like being berated with negative energy.So they learn to just not say so much.And if you don't say so much, you don't think so much.And if you don't think so much, you're going to stay in the middle.

You're going to be able to pull in any direction.You can't say anything on the internet now, anything, without getting hate.The women who say that all men should die, they get hate.The women who say, I wish I had a strong man to protect and take care of me, they get hate.If you go on the internet and say, I like Cheerios you get hate if a girl uploads a picture of her lipstick.This is my favorite lipstick Some ball underneath is gonna say you're only promoting that lipstick for money.

You're a sellout.You can't say Anything on the internet now without getting hate because all of this is orchestrated by the same peopleAnd the system has hundreds of thousands, even Elon admitted himself, 800 ,000, no, sorry, 800 million, 800 million accounts they've deleted so far of bots, influence campaigns from foreign countries, from national companies.They're influencing all of us all the time to influence the algorithm.And Twitter is still full of them.It's still wrecked.

All these platforms are wrecked.So if you're at home, understand this, when you post something and people start giving you hate, it's not real.It's not real.And the people who you know who are real giving you hate are doing it because the algorithms convinced them to hate you because of what you think.They don't want anyone to have an opinion on anything.And if you do have an opinion on anything, they have a buzzword to attach to it.

He has an opinion that he should pay for his woman's life so she doesn't have to work unless she wants to, and he should protect her by making sure she's home and safe and not out late at night by herself.He's called a misogynist.He believes, like, as soon as you have an opinion on anything, you get a buzzword and you get hate.Even if your opinion is the nicest opinion in the world, I want to rescue stray dogs.What about the people?Why are you giving your money to dogs?

Humans haven't got food either.You're a piece of shit.You can't win.And all of this is orchestrated.All of this is done on purpose to keep you as far from an opinion as possible.So you're just a ball of goo, a ball of goo waiting to be told what to do.

That's what they want.I've seen so many people with such clean internet images getting fucking blasted, bro, with constant hate.And those people believe it's real.And it actually affects them, and they sit there and go, well, maybe I shouldn't say what I think, because look, I barely said what I thought.I said 1 % of what I thought.Look how the internet reacted.

Maybe they don't like me.We're all social animals.No one wants to be hated.I'm lucky because I'm psycho, so I don't give a shit.So I don't care.I'm lucky.

gone.My brain's gone.I don't care.I'll charge it to gunfire.But a lot of this is on purpose.It's something to keep in mind.

It's on purpose.So when you talked about these women who have this opinion about they want a strong man to take care of them and they're rejecting feminism.I have absolute respect for them and kudos to them because I guarantee you it's not easy for them to post these things and say these things because if you read their comments, they're getting a whole bunch of bots trying to put them back in their box.And the box it wants everybody in is a bowl of flavorless porridge without opinion, waiting for the algo to tell them what to think.The point you made about putting people in the middle, that word you told me earlier stuck in my head, it's the sanitizing of life.Sanitize.

And you know when you think of art, and when you think of sports, and when you think of beauty, let's talk about beauty in my generation, whether it's Cindy Crawford, Claudia Sheffer, Naomi Campbell.It was so diverse, and I remember growing up and thinking, look at the beauty of life, and look at the diversity of beautiful beings.But then today, centralized.You have to have this kind of body, this kind of face, this kind of lips, this kind of, and it's making, I always wonder, I don't have a daughter, but I'm so, I was always afraid that if I have a daughter and she's 12 or 14, and she goes online and everybody's airbrushed and everybody is fake and curvy and whatever and she's flat or a big nose or whatever.And one person goes, how ugly, look at your stupid ears.Now I have a daughter that I've been pushing on confidence and self -esteem.

She has 30 people, 20 in her school that said, what an ugly little bitch you are.And I'm expecting my daughter to say, dad, I'm so comfortable in my own skin.Would you say you're obsessed with the Matrix?I wouldn't say I'm obsessed with it.I just find it...I'm trying to tell people what I know to be true.

Why?Because I think that's why anyone talks, isn't it?This is a genuine question.When you speak to people in a social setting, you're talking about things you know, don't you?Or you're asking questions about things you don't perhaps know.And I think those are the only two things to do, is to ask questions or say what you know.

I'm saying what I know, not because I'm a philanthropist, Not because, being honest, not because I'm out here to save the world.I'm not going to pretend I'm a superhero, because I'm not.Not because I care so much about humanity that I want people to...It's really none of those things.I just know it's true.And I find it interesting to talk about.

And I like when other people sit there and go, ah, I agree with that point, or I disagree with that point.I just find it an interesting conversation.I feel like, you know, I could sit and say that I'm trying to at least preserve the last vestiges of humanity.I could say those things.But really, this is just what I've learned on my journey from insignificant and unknown to one of the most well -known people on the planet.I've learned so many things and seen behind so many curtains that I'm just interested in telling people.

What you said earlier about the little girl is so—the daughter—is so interesting.Because even worse than you gave the example of if someone writes she has a big nose, what if a robot writes she has a big nose?What if the robot tells her she has a big nose and then shows her adverts for rhinoplasties?So what if even worse than a human looking and believing it, what if it was never thought by any human on the planet?No one even conceived of her having a big nose, but the machine worked out because of her browsing pattern that she's susceptible to this particular attack.and we can write this comment and she'll buy, she'll click on these adverts and we'll make fractions of a penny off of her.

Let's destroy her psyche for fractions of a penny, because each time she clicks on an advert, we get 0 .1 cents.So let's make her cry herself to sleep at night so we can get a fraction of a penny.And this is already happening.We talk about girls.Let's talk about boys.You think a 14 -year -old boy isn't sitting there concerned about the fact he has no money?

When I was 14, I didn't care that I was broke.Now 14 -year -olds are like, or 15, 16.Let's make that a bit older.When I was 16, I didn't know Dubai existed.I'd never seen Monte Carlo.I'd never seen a Lambo.

I didn't know people had yachts.I didn't know you could fly private.These things were not even in my brain on any level.I'd never seen them.I'd never thought about them.They never entered my psyche ever.

I thought everyone was poor.Maybe some people were rich because they had a slightly nicer car or a slightly bigger house, but we were all basically the same.Now you're 16.You're talking to the girl in school who you like.She's talking to a hedge fund manager.You need a Lambo and disposable income pronto or you can't get chicks anymore.

You're 16 at the height of your hormonal capacity.You're horny all the time and obsessed with chicks.And you're sitting there online going, girls just love money.Girls just love money.I need money.I need muscles.

I need money.So you end up wondering why they're all on steroids.Even worse, you wonder why they're all gambling.Why is everyone gambling on crypto all the time?Because if you're 19, you don't sit and go, you know what?Let me save my money.

And when I'm 19, if I save up, when I'm 28, I can buy a house.You're 19 going, 28.I need a Lamborghini.I need this now.I've got $1 ,000.If I gamble it, maybe I'll get rich.

I'll probably lose it, but 1 ,000 is basically zero anyway, because no girl wants to talk to me anyway.We pretend that this is an asinine, childish thing, girls talk to me.It's actually the base motivator for nearly everything men have ever done, ever, is reproduction.Men built cities, scaled the mountains, sailed the seven seas, scaled the world, built all of society, gone to war.and got blew up in ditches just to come home and be a hero and get a wife.That's why men done everything they've ever done.

And now you got 16 year olds and you're telling them you ain't getting no pussy unless you get some money, unless you get famous, unless girls know exactly who you are, you need a million followers on Instagram.I'm telling you the men are even more messed up than the chicks are.They've lost their minds.So what do the young men do now?Will they just gamble all their money away?Take a bunch of steroids or think, I need to get famous online at any cost.

I need to be viewed online at any cost.You know what?If I go do something stupid, at least people will look at me.At least I'll matter if I go do something dumb.Who's forcing the young men to gamble all their money to go do stupid, risky things that might land them in jail or dead?The algorithm.

The algorithm is destroying us.It's destroying all the young men for a fraction of a penny.Because these young men have been told and shown a life that they can't afford and they believe that's the way to get women.And unfortunately for them, it's true.Because the women are shown the other side of the coin.And the women are like, oh well, I'm a pretty girl.

I'm 19 and I'm pretty.Why should I work?Every hot girl you meet, do you even work?Oh yeah, no.As soon as they're 19 and hot, they're living off some man.Their current man, a future man, their ex -man.

They're just living off dudes.So, of course, if you want those girls, you now need to have money to pay for these girls.Of course, both sides of the coin are being that it's all the algo.It's literally broken society to the point where no one has kids anymore.The algorithms have warped people's minds to the point now where we don't reproduce, which is our base instinct.It's like the most basic thing humans do.

Now there's fertility crisis all across the globe where no one's having children, and it's because of algorithms.You can't convince a woman to have five kids.Because if you tell a woman you need five kids, which is what most women did, my dad was one of nine, my mom was one of nine.How many families in the West are one of nine now?Zero.If you try and tell a woman she needs five kids, she's going to say, well, I need a 10 -bedroom house, and I need three nannies, and I'm going to need all this money so I can go to Gucci and do surgery afterwards, and I'm going to have five kids, and I need two cars.

Most men can't afford that.So you're not going to have families of five kids.I mean, of course, the odd billionaire can, but we're not talking about that.We're talking about the average man, average family.So the algorithms are in charge of so many things.We've already lost our humanity and our sentience.

And the reason I talk about these things so religiously and repeat them so feverishly is because every time you ask me a question about my childhood or my family life or who I am as a person, part of me is instantly not only nostalgic, but sad.When you say, what was it like being a child?I feel like my children will never have that.My children will never have what we had.My children will never experience that.My children won't even love me the way I loved my dad.

I saw my dad as a superhero.And even me, as one of the most well -known people on the planet, my son will not see me to the same degree of superhero as I saw my dad because he's exposed to so much other information all of the time.I only knew my dad.That's all I saw.So I'm talking about these things because I'm answering your questions about the past and who I currently am.and trying to highlight how an individual with a childhood and with unique perspectives and with unique feelings and thoughts and unique philosophies and all these things that we all have as individuals, all of that will be gone in less than a decade.

And I think that's one of the saddest things on the planet.Imagine, I said, in a decade, a meteor would hit and we'd all be extinct.Well, that's sad.But isn't it just as sad that the meteor doesn't hit and we're all neutered and we're eunuchs and our brains are off and we're all just part of an algorithmic machine and we're basically AI bots, we're just numbers and code?Isn't that just as sad that we've become the fucking Borg?Human race is going extinct, sir.

I really believe that.I believe it's the end.I'll tell you something that I observed today because I like to come to these interviews as open of an unprejudiced mind.I think You're a very sensitive man, and I mean it in a very human way.And you give a fuck.Of course it's packaged with a very masculine man, very strong man, very reliable man, very serious man.

Like I could imagine people in your circle coming to you because they rely on you, you're their backbone and all of that.But there's a beauty of sensitivity that goes beyond Andrew.it goes like, because you could be as smart, as experienced, and say, I don't need to tell anybody anything, I'm good, I wanna be safe, I just got out of jail, I'm okay.But there's this calling, or drive in you that pisses you off that people are zombies, or people are losing humanity, or our kids, not only yours, mine too, are gonna lose a lot of this, and it does make you sad.And that fire is what's keeping you, Holding on to your humanity.I think you're absolutely correct.

I think you're right.I think you're right I think perhaps, you know, I can't stop any of what's gonna happen The tsunami is gonna come but I feel like I will sleep better at night knowing I shouted as loud as I could shout while people were still capable of listening perhaps and you're right Perhaps I am more sensitive than a lot of people know because it does bother me It really does bother me and it saddens me.It saddens me on so many levels to what you're sayingEven the sanitization of chess saddens me.The globalization of the world saddens me. I'm sad that I go to Japan and see the same coffee shop as I see in New York.So many things sadden me, you know?

And I guess that's just the future.And the future is not my problem because I'm an old man now, you know?But there are two types of humans.There's a human that sees the sadness and wallows.And they go into this depression or suicidal and they're miserable.And it happens to a lot of people.

And there are people who will use that poison and burn the shit out of that poison and drive it somewhere else.Of course.And you're a human that needs to move.You can't sit down.So you're getting pissed off and sad and you're like, okay, let's burn this fucking fuel.But where?

let me talk, let me go on a podcast, let me talk to my kids.Absolutely.Because you're burning it.Of course.I don't want to be a doomer.I don't want to give up.

But you're right.I take that negative emotion and I try and turn it into the most positive thing I can.And I think that that's, you know, the mascot in essence.I could quit and give up.You're right.But I see these things, I feel these things, and I think you've nailed it, absolutely.

That's perhaps my drive to sit here and go, you know what, this is what's happening to everybody at home.If a million people watch this and even one of them becomes aware of their phone addiction, if even one person watching this sees a negative comment about how they look and stops for a second and goes, you know what, this is pixels on a screen, and this isn't even real, and I'm gonna be happy anyway, then we've achieved our mission, you know?I mean, why were men, This certainly isn't a trench, this is just a conversation, but it's a battle for influence like everything else.Why were men fighting in wars since the dawn of human time if it wasn't to try and preserve what they believed was the light?This is what men have always done.We've got in groups, we found the other people who thought like us, we made some swords, we marched in whatever direction, and we said, this is what I believe is the light and the truth, and I'm prepared to fight to defend it.

So, luckily, we don't have to die in a trench to do this.We can just have a conversation on a podcast, but it's the same drive.It's the same motivation.This is what I believe is the light and the truth.Everything that's amazing about the world, everything that's amazing about the things you named earlier, about art, about music, all the things you said, it's the humanity, it's the human element to it.You know what's been completely wrecked by, for like AI, pet videos and pet pictures?

Because you used to see a cat do something and go, wow, look at that cat playing with that ball that way.That's so funny.Cats don't normally do that.That's unusual for a cat.But now you see a cat do something strange.You're like, did a cat even really do that?

Or do I care about a cat playing with a ball that way?It's not even a real cat.Because the humanity, the human element's gone.You used to look at a painting and it'd be so photorealistic.It'd be like, wow, how did a human use his eyes to see something and replicate it through tiny movements of his fingers so perfectly?Now the machine just doesn't.

Is it really beautiful anymore?Everything's full.What's going to make us human once we lose the ability to influence or imprint ourselves onto our children?Or we lose the ability to feel or think anything outside of a set parameter?What's going to make us human once we can no longer be the fish which taps his head against a fish tank?What are we here for?

Then what are we?Then what do we exist for?Are we an economic model?What we become is chickens on a farm.Who think they're not on a farm.Who think, well the best prison is the one you don't realize you're in.

Ignorance in certain places can be a bliss.I always preached mental health, I always preached therapy, but I took ages to ever even try.And I finally found, I tried three, the first time like, no, didn't work.like hula for me.You know, like, you know, imagine this.I'm like, I need a realistic person.

So I finally found a guy who was in his seven, I think, I don't want to give him the wrong age.I think in his seventies, fucking experience.And I'm like, listen, I don't need somebody to listen to me. I'm going to bounce ideas off you.And I would love, because you're experiencing, you're human beings in psyche.Let's, I want to ping pong.And I'm like, okay, this is therapy, because it's a mix of a life coach, an experienced human, a wise person, a stoic, let's do this.

So I was telling him, listen, is ignorance a bliss?Because once you're aware, you can't undo that shit.Like, let's say you go on a better airplane, you can't go back to that, you're done.You try a better sushi, like, I can't go back to that, you're done.He's like, I'm like, maybe it's a curse, because I read, I observe, and I'm an observer of life, so it talks with me.He's like, and it's knowing you, and now I can apply this to you.

He's like, you would have never rested being ignorant.Your wiring is not made to just sit.Absolutely.You're the person who will try sand and be like, I don't like this.When you're a kid, you know how to operate a drawer.And I guess that's the beauty of the childlike energy that's inside of us.

Maybe me and you, and hopefully a lot of people, I hope more, we preserve this child that used to touch things and taste things and be like, and then you learn because you're curious.Of course.But I think society, and now you said the algorithm and all of this, it does, this every time you're like no no no you don't try this that's right only try this yeah this is your favorite color this is your favorite place and humans can be if you don't build enough self -esteem you do get tamed very quickly of course one big bad viral video yeah and you're never gonna say in your opinion again absolutely so i think preserving that challengeenergy is so important for humanity.Of course, to make you a human being.Absolutely correct.

No, I agree with you.And the thing about ignorance being bliss is that we discussed earlier the yin and the yang, the light and the dark.There is no decision without the exact opposite being a negative.If you know things, then you suffer from knowing them.And if you don't know things, then you suffer from not knowing them.Like, you're either aware of what's happening and angry about it or the victim of what's happening, unaware and being dragged, you know.

The feather.That's right.You're the feather in the wind.So, I'm angry when I see my child on an iPad knowing that the algorithm's trying to poison my kid's mind.If I was ignorant, I wouldn't be angry when I see that, but then my kid's mind would be poisoned.So, like, there's no way out of these things.

So, you're right.you and I have chosen to avoid ignorance and suffer the reality of knowing everything.With our kids, you should never, what they call them in English, I'm translating, like break their oars so much that they lose, like if he says, dad, let's say your son, inshallah, is like 18.And he's like, dad, I'm not too sure about this sport or this tactic and I don't agree with you.And you're like, no, shut up, you're stupid.You're breaking his character.

And a lot of parents want to over discipline and make a copy paste of them.But if you let him reject you, it's okay.Like, okay, tell me why.Why you don't agree?With respect.Tell me, challenge me.

Absolutely.And I think we need to keep that.that rebelliousness in our children.Of course.Rather than they have to, you know, just be accommodating to everything that we like because I just don't want to be challenged.Absolutely.

Absolutely.And I think that if you genuinely know better, it's pretty easy to explain to them why you know better.If you genuinely do, you know.I mean, I'm sure my child at some point is going to say something.If you genuinely do.If you genuinely do, yeah.

I'm sure at some point my child's going to say something.I'm going to say,I disagree, and he's gonna give me his point of view, and I'm gonna go, you know what, you know, all right, I agree, you know, fair enough, you know, I agree.So, yeah, this is the world we're living in.It's an interesting place, but I've always, you know, one of the biggest copes, I think, that we suffer from, you know, in the future, when they look back and talk about us driving, another thing they're gonna do is, in the future, they're gonna look back and talk about us dying.Imagine how scary dying.

Yeah, and they're gonna say people used to die.Yeah So what they just one day randomly on a normal day halfway through an unfinished project just drop dead Yeah, and they couldn't stop it.No Like but why didn't they live with permanent anxiety?about this because it's just life and why but what have happens when they got to like 65 70 and they were close to dying is all they talked about not really people just died once we can live forever and which is coming, right?Once we live forever.I think like, you know, one of the biggest copes is this idea that life is only valuable because we one day die.

I don't think that's true.I think life would be valuable forever.I personally, I say right here, I'd love to live forever.I really would love to live forever.I hate the idea of dying, but eventually we're going to one day run out of time.Would that make you less driven?

I don't know.I don't think so.I don't know.I don't think so because, you know, I always have these battles to fight.There's always battles for influence.If I could live forever, I think I would.

Would I be less driven?Perhaps I would have a few more days off.But that's one of the saddest things about losing even a second or a minute of your day to being upset by something which is manufactured, is that you are living on borrowed time.We all are.So I talk to so many young men.You're 17.

You're not supposed to be a billionaire.You're not supposed to be rich.In fact, if you were rich at 17, you'd be a dipshit.You'd be a bad person if you were rich at 17.You're actually supposed to be poor at that age.You need to grow into money.

The worst thing that could happen to you right now is easy money.That's actually the worst thing.You're not ready for money.You need to go and struggle and suffer and become a man and then get some money, because money will amplify your characteristics.So if you're honorable, money will make you more honorable.But you're a 17 -year -old.

If you make fast money, you're going to be a worse arrogant little brat than you currently are.So there's so many people who are losing themselves when time is already borrowed, and it's such a sad thing.I have, so a lot of men would say they've learned to be more confident, more at ease maybe, and more disciplined when they watch you.And a lot of women would feel, oh, from the statements he makes, it makes me feel offended or disrespected.Do you think you can empower men without diminishing women?I don't think I diminish women, but I understand why some women may feel that way.

And I think the primary objective The reason I talk to men, and I mean this with respect, I don't talk to women because I'm not a woman.So I can sit here and give a whole bunch of opinions on women, and trust me, I have plenty.But I'm not a woman.I'm a man.And I think that I've accepted, very much like my mother accepted her role or my dad accepted his role, it is my job to try and be a guide to the young men because I am an older man.That is what I'm trying to do.

And I do believe that if I make the men better, I am, by default, helping the women also be better, because there's going to be better men out there for the women.I really believe that.I think encouraging men to work hard, dedicate themselves, be confident, make money, go to the gym, whatever it is, is also going to help women as well, because they're going to eventually have boyfriends who think or act a certain way that they find admirable.And I've heard this from women.I've heard them say, oh, my sons, I love that they watch your content.I've heard that quite often from mothers.

I've heard women say, oh, my boyfriend's a big fan.of yours.I've heard these kind of things.So I'm not out here trying to educate women on how to be.I think that the responsibility for the direction of society actually falls on men.I think everything that is wrong in the world is actually men's fault.

Including the women.If the women have a bad opinion or the women are doing certain things which I disagree with, I still blame the men for that because I think men are responsible for everything.I actually think it's all a masculine problem because I believe men can fix it because men have always been in charge of society until very recently.So even now that it's a gynocracy in the West, it's still the men's fault for giving up power.because the men could once again take control, and they could once again be patriarchal, and they could fix certain things.How do you fix the OnlyFans epidemic in America?

How do you fix the fact that 30 % of young women are selling their body for pennies?Well, you need strong fathers.That's how you fix it.It's very simple.You need fathers who can tell their daughters no.So I believe men are the solution to a lot of things, including the women's problems.

So I'm just going to focus on the one thing I know.And I think that if we look at society by and large, is it declining?Yes.People have disagreed with me on that before.They've said, why is it declining?We're more liberal, more open.

Society's better than it's ever been.Well, I'll say it's declining because the primary objective of society has to be reproduction.If we're not producing humans, then we're failing.What did I say earlier about forget how we feel?I forget how I feel, I have certain things I have to get done.Let's forget how society looks and how society feels.

Society needs people.So the primary objective is reproduction.If reproduction rates are off a cliff, society is failing, by and large, by that metric.I don't care if you feel like we're more liberal, we're more nice, we're more female -empowering, we're more LGBT -tolerant.I don't give a shit about any of that.What I care about is the fact that there's no humans anymore, so we're failing.

Society is in massive decline.There's no doubt about that.And men are the ones who can fix it.If you look at society when it was functioning in the way it should be, it was largely patriarchal.And women will sit and say, oh yeah, men just want to be in charge.You know, there's this idea of being in charge by people who aren't in charge, as if it's utopian.

You run your business.Is it easier to be the boss or is it easier to be a member of staff?I was telling a staff member yesterday, leadership is lonely.Oh, bro, it's horrible to be the boss.Everyone's like, I wish I was the boss so I could choose my own hours.I was like, you think you choose your own hours when you're the boss?

You could do a 9 to 5 as an employee, or you could do a 9 to 11 as a boss.You work harder as the boss.People, when I talk about patriarchy and men being in charge, I'm not talking about subjugating women.I'm not talking about being horrible to women.I'm talking about being responsible for women.paying for women, taking care of women, risking our lives for women, women and children first on the lifeboat.

I'm talking about all the bad things that come with leadership.Leadership's not all rose -tinted perfect.Yeah, sure, there's some perks, because there's perks to everything.But like I've said earlier, everything that is positive comes with a massive negative.It's social media also.Of course.

Social media built, made entrepreneurship sexy and trendy.And when I have these young entrepreneurs, when I do a talk at the universities, and I'm like, by the way, It's okay not to be an entrepreneur.It's really not for everyone.Are you ready to do 80 hours per week, minimum?Absolutely.At 3am, 2am, and now if you have a COVID, you have to think of salaries for your 60 employees.

That's right.Are you okay with this?Because it's easy to say, I have my own time, my own hours.It's sexy.It's very attractive.But you have to go through it to know, like, fuck this.

Like, I actually don't want this.I wish I was in a corporate.And there's no shame in that.But it's social media.Social media made this.Much more rosy than what it is.

Of course, of course.How was jail?It was a sobering experience.It's been a while since I've been back now.I thought they would have got me back in there by now.It's been two or three years I've managed to get out.

I thought they would have banged me up again by now.It turns out I'm just too hard to kill.I'm too good for my enemies.They can't get me back there.But the way I currently look at it, after a little bit of time has passed, is that it's a level of the map that I got to explore.And it was a level of the map that I would have always been curious about unless I had explored it.

I'm grateful to the universe for giving me access to the dungeon level of the map for a short period of time.And if the universe decides I need to go back, then I'm hoping there's something else to discover outside of the cockroaches and the cold.You became very popular, one of the most Googled, if not the most Googled name online, and became very influential, quite powerful, and that can be intimidating.And then suddenly you're in all of this trouble.Where did it go wrong?Well, I didn't do anything wrong.

I went wrong because I became too influential.So this is a big security problem.So what weapons does a government have when you become a problem to them?Well, they have law.So, of course, they start flicking through the law book.What law is he broken?

What law is he broken?What can we get him on?What can we get him on?And they find very loose, tedious links.Oh, did he really do this?I mean, no, but look, just put this here, put that there, maybe this, maybe that.

Anyone who believes I became the most Googled man on the planet without any legal trouble, and then a month later had all the world's legal trouble, and that that was an organic accident, is completely brain fried.They tried to shut me up by deleting me from social media, didn't work.They tried to slander me with the BBC, didn't work.So they thought, okay, well, then we had to physically throw him in a jail cell.This is the way the world works.It's the way the world works everywhere.

It's the way the world works in the West.It's the way the world works in Europe.Russia.It's the way the world works in China.It's only in the democracies that we lie about this.And most countries are quite honest and open.

If you say these things, which we believe is bad for the state, you're going to go to jail for it.And I actually respect the honesty of that.That's fine.If you tell me, here's the rules, and if you break the rules, you go to jail, here's the red line.If you go over it, there's violence, because that's what putting someone in jail is.It's violence.

It's police dragging you into a cell you don't want to be in.then I respect it.The most annoying thing about the failing democracies is that they pretend there's no red line.What did I say at the beginning of this meeting?At the beginning of this podcast, I said, the best upbringing, the best childhood is knowing there's a line, being told fairly.Fair, here's the line, cross it, you know what you're doing.

What's annoying is when the line's invisible, which it is in the democracies.Yeah, you can say what you want, free speech.Oh shit, look what he's saying.Oh crap, everyone's listening.Get him.I'd rather they just be honest about it.

And in many countries, they are honest.including this one, and I respect it fully.something along the lines, like, what do you think about freedom?I'm like, what is actually freedom?Do we actually want full freedom?It's like a highway with no lines.

Do we want that?And then there is chaos and accidents and you're like, no, no, no, no, no.I wish there were lines and some dashed lines and a yellow one because I need a bit of order.Otherwise nobody will get home and we'll have deaths.So this silly idea that we connect freedom to no rules and no guidelines and no ethics.Religion is there because it's a guidebook for life.

Absolutely.Government is there for certain guidelines so you can live better.That's right.Red light is red light.No, I don't want, free, I'm free.I go.

And that's, what are we doing?So don't attach, it's a very gray word.We like to say we need freedom of speech, but do you?Of course.So let's not overly hinge and bet on the word freedom.Freedom should be that you can express yourself without hurting others.

That's right.You can be playing the sport you want, you can manage your time, you're not forced to do certain things.Okay, that's more than enough.But this is the problem with the Western world because it's built on this idea of freedom, which we of course know not to be true, because you're right, there can't actually be freedom without chaos.But only the Western democracies promote this idea of freedom, which is false.So only the Western democracies are lying to you, which is what's so annoying.

It's so frustrating to live in a country when you're told you're free and you clearly aren't.I'd much rather you lay out the rules.Because if all the countries lay out the rules, then you just get to decide which country you want to live in based on which rules you want to adhere to.I feel free here because nothing I want to say is prohibited.So I say everything in my mind all the time.100 % of my brain is dumped out into the real world, and I don't get in trouble.

So I feel free here.Whereas in a democracy, the Western democracies, the free countries, if I say 100 % of what's on my mind, I go to jail.So the democracies in the West should actually tell you the rules.But the reason they can't is because if they were to stand up and be transparent and say, you know what, instead of making up bullshit reasons to put people in jail when they say things we don't like, instead, we're going to tell you the things we don't like you to say.Don't say that a man shouldn't be in a woman's changing room while she's getting changed because he says he's a girl because his brain's been fried by pornography.Don't say that.

When they actually told you the rules, there'd be revolution because the rules are insane.That's why they can't tell you the rules so they have to just make the rules invisible because they're fucking crazy and they're crackpaw and justsnipe the biggest people who complain because they've lost their minds.Society in the West, by and large, is in a lot of trouble.People were saying to me, Dubai's over, Dubai's over, all this garbage with the current drone attacks.And I said, listen, in the following days, the drones and the missiles will stop and then life will go back to normal and we'll still be in Elysium.

We'll still be in a utopia where I can wear a nice watch and drive a nice car and have a nice, safe life.Your taxes are never going to stop.And your crime's never gonna stop.In fact, both of them are gonna increase exponentially forever.Where's over again?You think it's over here?

We have one problem to fix, and it can be fixed with a phone call, and eventually it will be.You have a much bigger problem, which is an insidious bureaucracy, which is hell -bent.on stealing as much money as possible from the tax base while it robs its workers blind and everybody's cost of living skyrockets and everybody's human experience gets worse and worse.Your problem is multifaceted.It is far deeper and far more difficult than the problem we have to solve.Drones and missiles, yes, it's an annoyance and it's a difficult problem to solve, but it's not as difficult as a problem to solve as a cannibalistic bureaucracy which is raping every single constituent endlessly.

That's far worse.So I think the West is in a lot more trouble than Dubai and Talking about algorithms.I would think a lot of the online hate which has been targeted at Dubai around these recent events is Actually from scared nation states, but they couldn't scare me away in fact I came in during the missiles on Purpose to prove a point because I think that if a city or a country or leadership is good to you You should show respect and appreciation back.And I'm very disappointed at the people who left, to be honest.I'm very disappointed.I'm here to stay.

I ran.Here I am.Social media blocks, hate speech, death threats, jail.and more, I'm sure.I'm just trying to list a few.What kept you going all this time, truly?

What they did to me was completely unfair.They locked me in a jail cell in Romania, which is the worst jail in Europe.I had PTSD and nightmares for years.After I got out of jail, they locked me in my house for three and a half years.I didn't see my mom when she had a heart attack.I didn't see one of my kids.

They stole all my money.They slandered me across the media.They convinced a whole bunch of people who are completely psy -opt that I'm a human trafficker and a rapist and a money launderer and an arms trafficker and a tax evader.Tax evader maybe, but the rest, that one maybe won't be true.But they convinced all these people of all this garbage, completely slandered my international reputation, destroyed my business.They completely wrecked me.

It's true, because I was too influential.And it was completely unfair what they did.Absolutely.But you know when you play a video game and you're the good guy, you're the hero, and you get to the final boss, he always has a larger life bar than you.You know, the bad guy, it's never been fair for the good guy.When has it ever been fair for the good guy?

The fact that they came at me so viciously, so unfairly, the fact that it was so rigged, the fact it was so unfair, and perhaps it's just the stubbornness or the pettiness in me, I can't say what it is, but the fact it was so unfair made me know I was the good guy.I was like, this setup is the bad guy.Only a hero can be this badly outnumbered.Never in history has a good guy had so much overwhelming firepower against the bad guy.There's never been a time where you had one little bad guy and a million good guys who quickly wiped him out and the world was a great place.No, it was one little good guy against a fucking army of evil.

It always has been.When you watch the James Bond movie, and when you watch the Batman movie, When you watch these movie carefully, and most people don't watch them carefully, but next time you see any action hero movie, watch it carefully.He's getting his ass kicked.kicked for 95 % of the film.For 95 % of the movie, it's going wrong.Everything's going wrong.

For James Bond, for Batman, he's losing.He's getting his ass kicked.He loses his chick.Something blows up.He nearly dies.It's going all wrong till the end.

So for these last four years when everything was going wrong, I was like, yeah, but this is how the movie goes.Please understand.That there was a time I was locked in my house, and this time was only a year ago, 12 months, where I was looking at 21 charges in Romania and 20 charges in England.with an active extradition warrant.So after I solve the 21 issues in Romania, irregardless of whether I beat them and stay free or go to jail and serve a decade, I then get instantly extradited to England where I have to face 20 more charges.I'm put in Belmarsh on remand and I have to fight that again.

I was looking at 20 years of legal garbage.The idea of me in the last month going to Kazakhstan, Miami, Vegas, New York, LA, Romania, Istanbul, then here to see you fly again tomorrow night.The idea of all of this was unfathomable.How?They got the extradition warrant signed, Andrew, and you're locked in your house.You have to go to court, fight these 21 charges, instant extradition to England.

It's over.Because you're supposed to get your ass kicked for 99 % of the movie.And then somehow at the end, You have like a magic weapon, somehow, some twist of luck, some chance.You know, as long as you're that guy.If James Bond or Batman quits at any point during the movie, when he's getting his ass kicked, if he gives up, then it's over.But if he keeps getting up, somehow, against all the odds, somehow, at the end, he finds a way.

And escape an active extradition warrant to live your life free.Even though you've done nothing wrong, but you've been set up by an intelligence agencyHow the fuck are you traveling the world instead of being in jail?How do you do that?Well, these are some secrets to the matrix I cannot yet tell on a podcast.If you could teach every child in the world one lesson only, what would you teach them?

That's a really good question.I don't know because I believe most people who are healthy are already born with an empathy for other humans and I believe that most people are actually born quite good in many ways.So what would you need to teach a child at a young age?I can't answer the question competently.I'm sorry.I need to think about that.

That's a really good one.Next show I'm on, I'm going to have such a fucking flawless answer.It's going to be viral everywhere.Take your time.Let me think about that one.You can mess with me. I like that one.

You can mess with me with answers.Yes, sir.Best advice you've received, or one of.I've had a lot of good advice in life.Which one sticks?You're never tired when you're winning.

You're never tired when you're winning.And I think that that is the easiest way to always self -motivate yourself.If you ever feel tired or exhausted, or you're trying something and it ain't quite working, or you're trying to make money and you can't seem to work it out, or you're trying to get views and the views don't come, and you feel like, oh, this is so tiring, or I wanna quit, or I wanna give up, just know the second you start winning, you're gonna have unlimited energy to just win forever.There's no such thing as lazy.There's just people who feel demotivated as opposed to lazy.You can take any person, you can take the laziest guy, go home right now, find a guy who sits at home all day and plays video games and smokes weed, and say, look, here's how you make a million dollars.

Here's exactly what you do.Here's a puzzle.Every time you complete the puzzle, I give you 100 grand.he'll stop being lazy because he knows exactly what to do.Once he starts winning, he'll be up all night doing puzzles, getting that money, getting that money.But because he hasn't been given a very simple, clear path to the money, he can't work out how to do it, and he's too lazy to work out how to do it, so he doesn't want to do it.

So you're never tired when you're winning.Whenever I feel a little bit demotivated, or a little bit tired, or a little bit under the thumb, or I feel like there's too much going on, or I'm stressed, I just go, you know what, once this pulls off, I know I'm going to have unlimited energy to push it to the end.And I think that's the best way to look at it.And another reason you should keep this in mind, you're never tired when you're winning, is you need to keep in mind that your enemy, if they're beating you, are never going to give up.They're never going to quit.They're never going to get tired.

They're never going to get exhausted.As soon as your enemy feels like they're winning over you, they're never going to stop.This idea that you can show weakness and vulnerability to your enemy and they won't want to kill you, I think is one of the biggest mistakes in the world.If someone says something negative to you and you go, that really hurt my feelings, that really affects me, they're going to keep doing it.Every man knows this is true.You need to make it very clear.

You need to exhaust your enemy and you exhaust your enemy by being a brick wall.a brick wall of just ignorance.I love, I love, sometimes, you know, I just love being just blunt force brick wall.Let's put it on a personal level.Let's forget about the jail and the matrix and all these things, a personal level.A girl will say to me, you're so arrogant.

I'll say, nah, nah, I'm too humble.You're so arrogant.If I say, don't call me arrogant.If I show I care, she'll go forever.Just like, no, I'm the world's most humble man. I'm so fucking humble.I'm so humble.

And I just double down on it to the point where I'm not a brick wall.I let her exhaust herself, knocking her head against the wall before she goes, you know, I give up.Your enemies are never tired when they're winning and you're never tired when you're winning.And that's something to keep in mind.Did fatherhood change you?You know what's funny about fatherhood?

Everything I thought about fatherhood before I was a father turns out to be absolutely fucking true, and I was correct.Before I had a kid, I was like, my kids ain't gonna be brats, they're gonna obey me like souls do.And I'm not gonna have to change a single diaper ever.That's the woman's job.And I gotta tell my kids what to do, and they're gonna worship me, and my house is gonna be quiet and peaceful and serene, because I'm the boss, and they're gonna listen.Wait till you have kids, Andrew.

When you have kids, you're gonna see it's not like that.I bet you end up changing diapers.Never changed a fucking diaper, not my job.It's my job to pay for the house, and the house is paid for.My kids obey me.When I talk, they listen.

I was just totally right.Everyone was trying to psyop me that it was this big, difficult task, and that I was going to completely lose myself, and that these kids were going to run me all over the place, and I'm going to be fucking laying on the floor in a psychotic wreck while the kids make a mess.Turns out, As usual, I flawlessly predicted the future, and I was absolutely correct.So nothing really changed me.It's exactly like I expected it to be, but better.Having kids is easy.

Anyone at home, if you're thinking about having children, have them.The sooner you have kids, the better.Every year you wait to have kids is a year you don't have with them when they're older.You're losing years with your adult children to do what?Go on holidays and buy Birkenhand bags?Wake the fuck up.

Have kids and have them now.It's actually easy.And they're not even that expensive.The moms try and make them expensive by buying them fucking Dolce and bullshit.But if you can tell her to calm down, kids aren't even expensive.Kids are cheap, bro.

Kids are a few dirham.They eat a little bit of food, Primark t -shirt, bam, bam, done.I love having kids.It's the best thing ever.I need to have 20 kids.In the future, when you see me walking around with my 10 -man security team and they're all my sons, That's the future of Andrew Tate.

If they don't kill me, if they don't put a bullet in my head and I last that long, in 20 or 30 years, you're going to see me walking around with 20 full -grown men as my security team, and they're all going to be called Henry Andrew Tate, and they're all going to look like me.That's what's going to happen.Okay.Would you rather lose all your memories or the ability to make new ones?Well, that's really a bet on whether you think you'velived the best years of your life or if the best years of your life are coming up.

That's what that's about.And my problem is that I've lived the hardest years of my life and the best years of my life are coming up, which should make it an easy one.I should be able to sit here and say, well, let me erase all the bad times because now I'm a billionaire whose yacht finishes next summer and he's gonna be on his yacht with his brother having a great time.But do I want a brain full of happy thoughts, or do I want a brain full of grounding thoughts, negative thoughts that remind me of the brutal realities of life?And to be as competent as possible, I would have to choose the bad thoughts.So I would rather lose the ability to make new thoughts than lose all of my previous memories, because I have a very difficult predicament, sir.

This predicament I am in is a really horrible one, whereas I've been through so much shit that my life is pretty much now just coming to the point where the sun is rising and everything's perfect.I've finished all my legal bullshit.I've got my yacht nearly done.I've got my hundreds of millions.I no longer have to struggle to eat.I've got my children.

My life's just turning great.It's a terrible predicament to be in because if I don't have all that negativity to anchor it against, being rich means nothing.Being rich is boring.It is only fun because you remember being poor.Otherwise, it's shit.You don't want a Ferrari.

You want to be able to say, I can't believe I can afford a Ferrari when I used to not be able to afford food.That's the whole point of it.You need the negative.The negative is everything.This is what people don't understand.All the dark times, all the bad times, all the negative things that happen to them, that's the only thing that actually generates happiness for you.

The happiness isn't happy in and of itself.It's a reflection off of the negative.You need the negatives to be happy.If you don't have negative thoughts or negative memories in your mind, you can never be happy ever.This is why kids who are born into rich families with really privileged upbringings end up doing a whole bunch of drugs and being retarded and stupid.Because they don't have enough struggle.

You've seen the movie The Matrix.I talk about The Matrix all the time, but they say it in the movie.We tried to build a utopia for humans at first.We tried to build a human utopia, but the mind rejected it.The human mind needs struggle for some reason.So we had to build this terrible world that you all struggle in.

This is true.I couldn't lose all my bad memories because, perhaps, In my old age, I'm becoming too optimistic, but I can't see a future where I suffer nearly as much as the suffering I've already been through.My life's too fucking fantastic now.My version of suffering is what I described this morning, the horrible predicament when Mariah Pagani wouldn't star, and I had to take my Bugatti instead.That's my version of a bad day now.And I tell my PA, fix the Pagani, and I get my Bugatti.

That's my version of a bad day.I've had worse days, and I think I should remember them.Otherwise, I'll lose all touch with reality.What are you afraid of?There's a lot of things I'm afraid of.I don't like heights.

But when I say afraid, it doesn't mean I won't do them.Like, I don't like heights, but I'll still go.I don't like the ocean, but I'll go in it, but I don't like it.So, I mean, I can give a bunch of boring answers like that.I could say I'm afraid of...I don't think afraid is the right word, but I think the biggest waste of life is to die without being remembered.

I think that it is your job as a man to leave a mark in history.I think that's important.I think the true measure of a man is not only the size of his enemies, but what size or what dent he leaves in history when he's gone.I think that's the most important thing.So I could say I'd be afraid to die without being remembered, but I wouldn't say fear would be the right word.It would just be a monumental waste of talent.

And I've already achieved that.I can stop talking for the rest of my life.I've already made a mark.How would you like to be remembered?I think I'm the man who always made the brave choice.If not that, at least I was entertaining.

Even if you enjoy my self -immolation, even if I end up just burning up and they end up getting me and throwing me in jail for a hundred years, who gives a shit?At least it was an entertaining story.I'm really having a great time.I'm really on a wild ride.I've learned.You know, like, if someone's right -wing enough, they end up saying left -wing things, and if they're left -wing enough, they end up saying right -wing things.

And you know, like, if you have a really rich guy, so he ignores all the taxes, and then you have the people in the middle who pay all the taxes, but if you go homeless, you don't pay any taxes because you're homeless.You know, like, at the extremes, it actually meets in the circle.Happy and sad are the same to me.Like, I'm having a great time.I'm just out here to feel things, you know?To be absolutely devastated emotionally, truly saddened, is such a, to actually feel something, as opposed to just being numb, I think is the best use of a day.

If you can make me completely miserable and heartbroken and depressed for a day, where it consumes me, that's a good day, because it's a day I remember.It's a day I felt something, as opposed to another day in between, in the middle.I'm out here having a great time.So I'm trying to be, I'm trying to live my life for those extremes.I'm not trying to have a perfectly happy, positive life.I'm trying to live my life for those extremes.

And for that reason, I think, that I'm always going to take the brave choice and I'd like to be remembered for always taking the brave choice.When was the last time you cried?I've only cried once in the last eight years or eight and a half years and that's when my father died.When my dad died, I cried.I haven't cried since and I'm going to cry again when Tristan dies.Unless I die first.

I'm saving it for him because he deserves it.Unless I die first.Perhaps.I'm the older one.Maybe.Do you think your dad, Emery, would be proud of you if he saw you today?

100 % he would.Really?100 % he would.There's no doubt about it.And he'd be proud of me because when we'd play chess, sometimes we'd be playing chess and I'd be in a losing position.And he'd say, are you winning or losing?

I'd say, I'm losing.He said, well, how can we win this game?And I'd say, well, I can sacrifice my queen on this square, and I see that it's a check, and he takes with the knight, and then I can pin the knight with the bishop, and I've got the rook putting pressure on it, and he can't really defend it, so I'll get the knight back on the next move, but I can't calculate enough.I can't see the...I'm thinking like six or seven moves ahead, but it's getting complicated now, and there's so many variables.I can't see the end.

I don't know if this move works.And dad would say, yeah, but if you don't try it, you're definitely going to lose.You're going to lose this game.He's just going to keep grinding you down until you guaranteed lose.Or you could take a big risk and perhaps lose, but you were going to lose anyway, but you'll lose faster, but perhaps pull off the most marvelous victory in history.So what move are you going to make, son?

And this is the way I approach my life.My stupid ass just got in the ring with a man a decade younger than me and 45 pounds bigger than me, and he kicked my ass.Why?I have money.I have fame.I didn't need to do it.

Everyone's saying, Andrew, what the fuck are you doing this for?And why are you fighting him?Fight some guy, you'll be easy.Why are you fighting him?He's active, he's fought all these people, he's bigger than you, he's taller than you.And he beat me bad.

It wasn't, I mean, it was close.the first two rounds.I had him the last four rounds beat me Why did I do that Queen sacrifice?I don't know it makes no sense I mean it makes no sense, but I'm I'm happy to lose if I try I'm really not scared of losing at things I don't give a shit But to know I would be to wake up one day and accept that I'm now afraid to do something Because I might lose at it that would bother me but to try something and lose it doesn't bother me And I think that's my superpower to life.I'll try everything.I don't give a shit.

And if I lose, someone goes, ha ha ha, you lost.I'll say, ha ha ha, I'm me and you're you.At least I tried.At least I tried.They say if you don't try, the answer is always no.Absolutely.

And let's compare.Let's compare a lifelong legacy, you know.I'm sure the most famous, I can't tell you, I'm sure Napoleon lost battles.We know about Waterloo, but I'm sure he lost before that.He still managed to conquer all of Europe.You have to roll the dice, feather in the wind sometimes.

Maybe if we fought the day before or I fought him the day after, I would have beat him.Who knows?But this is just the way it worked out.But I'm always the guy who looks at the chessboard and goes, you know what?I know how this ends if I don't try, but who knows how it will end if I do?And that's why my dad is proud of me because that's how I am still living my life.

If we finish this interview, Emre, and we walk out and Your dad is standing.What would you tell him?Wow.Of course I'd have to tell him I love him.I'd have to tell him he was right about everything because when he was alive...course, or when you're younger, you don't appreciate how right your parents are until you get older and you realize.

I know what he'd reply.He'd say, of course I was right, son.I fucking told you.And I'd say, yeah, I know.It's a really good question.I think I'd just have to validate the fact that he was right about everything, tell him I love him very much.

And then probably the pragmatic question would be, how long are you here for?Are you back for good, or is this a temporary meeting?I don't know.But I'm going to be a little bit nervous walking out that door now.I know it's not going to happen, but you got me hopeful.Maybe he's here.

He's around.There is always, for me, I always come back to a point where I say, Anas, you don't know shit in life.You don't know if they can hear you.You don't know their energy.You don't know what is a soul.You don't know if they're gone forever.

Like, you actually don't know.So just shut up and say maybe.I see him in my dreams.He's around.I don't know exactly where.I don't know exactly how.

I'm excited to find out.Perhaps this is how, you know, in the future, When we talk about dying and they talk about how crazy we are for being able to deal with the fact we were going to die, perhaps this is how we cope with the idea but I don't believe he's gone.There's no way he's gone because I feel him and I talk to him and I see him in my dreams like I've never seen or felt or talked to anyone else.I know he's here.I know he's here and I know he's proud of me.Glad.

You have a big soft spot for him.Yeah.I don't want to cry on camera.I'll lose my street cred.Hopefully he doesn't have to be outside the door.Hopefully he has heard me say that he was right about everything, but I've told him this privately.

I've told him this endless times and he already knows it.And a lot of the decisions I make to this day...I make with him in mind.The idea to do certain things that perhaps may seem illogical to others, even to my own detriment, a lot of the decisions I've made, I make with him in mind.And so far, he's managed to lead me here.You know, I'm about to get on my jet tomorrow and continue with my life.

So maybe he knew even more than I knew.Maybe.Last question.I'm good with time, man.Andrew in one word.Indefatigable.

One of my favorite words, because it's from my favorite saying, which is my father's saying, my unmatched perspicacity coupled with sheer indefatigability makes me a feared opponent in any realm of human endeavor.So he's saying my ability to perceive things, perspicacity, my ability to look around and notice things that other people don't notice, coupled with sheer indefatigability, I never get tired.The fact that I notice everything and I never get tired makes me a feared opponent in any realm of human endeavor.And before I go, I'm going to tell you the story of when he said that.We were in Detroit, Michigan, at the end of a chess tournament.I must have been about 10 years old.

And my dad had played a chess tournament for a couple thousand bucks, a small level tournament.And he won.He won a couple thousand bucks.And it's about 3 o 'clock in the morning.And we were driving back to Gary, Indiana, where I lived, which was the murder capital of America at the time.And we were in Detroit, Michigan, which wasn't the nicest place either.

And we stopped in a gas station about 3 o 'clock in the morning.And in the gas station, my dad was at the counter, and I walked around the back to the crisps or the chips to buy some candy or some snacks.My dad had a little bit of money, so he said, go buy some snacks.And I heard an altercation at the front.I heard the Mexicans shouting at my dad, saying, say that, say what, say what, say what.And when I came around the corner, I saw these four Mexicans had jumped my dad, and they were punching him in the face.

my dad was swinging back.I remember he had one of them so close and was biting his face while the other men were hitting him on the head.And he had the guy's, I remember it vividly because there was so much blood.He had the guy's cheek in his teeth, holding him up here while the other men were hitting him.And he was just holding him up close.The guy behind the counters was saying, I'm calling the police.

I'm calling the police.I'm calling the police.Eventually the three men ran out.My dad lost control.The other guy, they all ran out and my dad stumbled and he leant up against the counter and I've never seen so much blood.I don't know if it was just the other guys.

A whole bunch of it was his.It was all pouring down his face where they were hitting him on the top of the head.They'd picked up things from the counter and they'd hit him and he was bleeding.He was leaning against the counter and he looked at me and I looked at him and I was so scared and he just looked me in the eye and then he looked back towards the door and was just staring at the door.I guess he expected them to come back in.The guy behind the counter said, I've called the police.

The police are coming.I called the police.A couple minutes later, we hear the sirens, the police turn up and the sheriff walks in.He's like, what happened?And the guy behind the camera said, it's not his fault.They got in an argument and these four guys tried to mug him and rob him and they attacked him.

My dad's now standing there.My father is a bit more sentient now.He's standing upright, standing upright like this.He's held something on his head for a little while, but there's still blood running down his head.And the police officer said to him, what's your name, sir?And he said, Emery Tate.

He said, what's your job?He said, I'm a chess player.And he said, you just fought these four Mexicans by yourself.Maybe you should have, been something else instead of a chess player.And my dad said, my unmatched perspicacity coupled with sheer indefatigability makes me a feared opponent in any realm of human endeavor.And I remember the sheriff's face because the sheriff just looked at him like, what the fuck did you just say?

Completely confused.And the fact that my dad, with a concussion, ended up having a broken cheekbone, he had 30 stitches all over his head.The fact that my dad, with a concussion after being jumped, when asked a question, that's how he answered it, is probably the easiest way I can describe the true genius of my father, because that's how he spoke.And I've never heard anyone else with a command of the English language like him to this day.I've watched every podcast on the planet.I've seen all these tech billionaires.

I've seen all these geniuses.I've seen everything on the internet.I've never seen anybody speak the way my dad spoke, ever.And I remember that sentence from that day, the age of 10.And I still say it now, all of the time.And if you tell me to sum myself up in one word, it's indefatigable.

But truthfully, if I'm allowed a few more words, I would like to say my unmatched perspicacity coupled with sheer indefatigability makes me a feared opponent in the realm of human endeavor.You're an interesting man, Emery.And it's interesting how your energy changed completely throughout the whole interview, you know?You've said, I think, before that you think you're one of the most misunderstood men in the world.You believe that still?I think it's getting better.

I think so.Thank you, sir.All right, guys.