ANDRÉ LAMOGLIA & MEL MAIA - Podpah #982

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Give it up!

More applause!

How are you?

The house is packed, bro. Did you see?

A lot of people!

They knew it was you, brother. The people were stunned.

I swear to God.

You are like that, right?

Especially you, Andre.

Me?

Yeah.

Never... Bro! They put on perfume, damn it! High heels! I said, what is this, bro?

There he comes! There are a lot of posts to do this. You are in a very cool moment, you are like the little ones, right? Yes, the couple of the moment, Mirna and Profeta. Yeah, man, we open, I don't know if it's our bubble there too, but we open social media, everything. Just Mirna and Profeta. I think it's not in a bubble anymore. It's not. It's more like a little pudding. Even because, mythical young man, speak up and win the underground.

Seriously, top 2 in the world, right bro?

Wow, bro.

So there's no bubble.

Top 1.

Top 1.

Not in English.

Ah, then take it, give him a round of applause.

Fuck, holy shit.

Have you ever seen yourselves speaking in Russian and other languages? you I'm going to use the word bullshit in French Putamer We have seen a lot

But it makes the bullshit cute Very elegant You don't understand what's going on I don't understand

There are some swear words that are only in Portuguese Like, I don't know, you're going to get fucked In Portuguese, it's going to fuck you

How are you going to translate it?

How do you translate the asshole?

There's no way, ass, there's no way.

It's ours, right? How are you guys? We're fine, and happy. I'd like to know, when you guys meet, because, like, watching the show you can see that you have a very professional chemistry.

And I imagine that this is one of the biggest challenges for actors and actresses. Like, I'm going to play this great role, but I don't know, I'm going to play with Mel, who I don't know yet, I'm going to play with André, who I don't know yet. Or have you met each other?

We didn't know each other.

We didn't know each other.

But our preparation was really cool.

Yeah, but it was like... It was a friendship connection. Yeah. I started rehearsing about two months before starting the project. No, no, no, no, so let's go first, then. How was the invitation?

How was everything?

Separated.

If you met each other in this.

Okay, we'll get there, then.

Yeah.

Man, the invitation... I was in Madrid at the time, I was living there.

Recording Elite.

Yeah. I was living there. In Elite. Yes. And it was already finished. And I got a call, a message from my manager, saying that Heitor had contacted me to comment on the series. I said, hey, Heitor, come here, anything that comes, it's fine, my brother. And then he presented the project. In the first read, I already, damn, I thought it was amazing. And then it went on, it was amazing. And then it kept going, and it kept going. And it all worked out. But this is already more than...

The character was already for you?

No, I don't think so. But I heard that they didn't consult more people for this character. But we had a conversation. You always make a video for us to understand you, for them to see you in the character and everything.

Wow, so this must be really, I don't know, I look like this, it's not embarrassing, I know it's your profession, but fuck, one thing you're there, camera, set, now you're...

Yes, I think self-tape is very different. It's horrible, it's horrible. It's very different you record with a team, you do it at home alone.

It must be nerve-wracking. And there's also the self-tape. For those who don't know, they ask the actor to make a scene, and we make the scene, but it's just a scene. When you read the scene, you imagine it in a location, with other actors, objects, etc.

Usually, in self-tape, you're at home, on a wall, alone. And you say, it's very hard for you to watch that and say, wow, how wonderful I did it.

You have to send it to luck.

But you say, what a shit, man, what a shit. And you recording at home. I hope it goes. I hope it goes. And then you record at home alone, you say, and the fact that you record at home, you have the freedom to record as many times as you want, right? So it stays forever. And you stay in an eternal loop, saying, I can improve. It's good when it's in person, you go there...

But for this one, how was it? Do you sit down, do you have to stand up? How is it? It depends. The scene comes, and you try to adapt as much as possible.

What was your scene?

This is good.

It was the... What was your scene from the test? That's a good one. From the kid, right? No, it was the first scene from the series. One of the first ones where I present the plan to Mr. Nelio.

Oh, yes.

And it was that scene. And it's a scene where there's a lot of people. There are three actors. And you do it alone. And you do it alone. It's very weird. And you do a alone. And then you do it alone. It's very weird. And then you make a table there, improvised.

What was yours, Mel?

Mine was a fight we had at your house, in that scene where he has the fridge open full of money. No, actually, he's already broke. And I say, I got into your fucking crooked plan, because I thought we were together.

Then we fight, then he gets sad and cries. There are some special scenes, I like this one a lot, after seeing the result.

Yeah, because there's a little affection there.

And how long does this process take? From the invitation to the moment you're in?

This series was very fast. We started recording in January, it was from January to April, right?

It was from January to April.

And we released it in October.

It was in January and April. Yeah. And we released it in October. Wow, that was really fast.

Really fast.

I've never seen something so fast in my life. It's hard to finish recording and release.

Yeah.

But before, I talked to Entoa like almost a year before starting to record.

Yeah, it was a little while too.

I think it wasn't a year, but it was a little while. In this moment of the self tape, did you know who you were going to work with or not? Nothing, nothing. How are these stages evolving for us to understand? Because people are very curious.

I also don't know how it is.

It's with them, we don't know much.

You keep waiting.

And people don't say anything. They barely send you a script. They don't even say, you did well.

They send a little synopsis of what your character is. Then we can see if we think it fits us or not.

In this case I received an episode and I was able to understand it well.

Man!

But usually it's just a little scene, you talk about the project, the character, and it goes well. But this is also a bad thing about self-tape because you don't have a lot of information to do that thing.

Exactly.

They want to see it, to test it, and say, let's see it this way.

But we're wearing glasses, we don't know where it is, we don't know the personality of the character. It's very difficult, we do it in the dark.

But if it worked out this way, my brother, then you say, if you like it like that, it's because... The first time I saw you with glasses, you were wearing them.

Because I knew you were a Carioca Magician, but I had never heard you in the competition. Me neither, me neither.

I'm a City Topper.

Here you will hear several.

I understood it. It's true. Sorry, we only exchange...

It's crazy.

It's a joke.

It's a joke, it's true.

I was talking about your hair, it looks great.

Really, bro?

It looks great.

Really, bro?

Do you want to make a technical kiss?

I swear.

Calm down, man.

I was just waiting for this opportunity. I have to control him because he wants a technical kiss. Calm down, bro. Calm down.

I'm going to talk here.

Bro, go... It was deleted.

The scene was deleted.

Thank you, brother. Thank you from the heart. You're beautiful too.

Thanks, bro.

Calm down, man.

Calm down.

The guy left me without grace.

I'm good at that, bro.

The guy from Nato asked for a kiss, bro. Kiss, man! First opportunity! He was talking to the piercer, he praised his hair, he said,

Give me a kiss!

It's very easy, man!

Technical kiss!

Ah, man!

Professional, in the cheap way.

But this, for example, talking about chemistry, Kiss, chemistry and such, Then we started, after we started rehearsing, I started rehearsing about two months before, And I started a myself, because Mel was making a movie at the time, and she's one of the people I have the most scenes with. I was rehearsing a lot by myself, which was great.

I rehearsed a lot with other people, like my brothers, Ju, Paz. Mel wasn't there, guys.

She was working.

She was almost starting to record.

She was working.

So you were a bit shocked, like,

you're the person I'm going to harass the most isn't here. Yeah, it's going to be bad, guys. And where's Mel? Then there was a day, I think we rehearsed a little, right?

What do you mean, we rehearsed a little?

Rehearsed... prepared a little.

Yeah, but it was a little that I thought was enough, because in the first week I started preparing with him, we already became friends. So the friendship between the two helps a lot to make the character. Because with the partnership, having intimacy, it's much easier to execute.

It must be very bad when it doesn't work out.

Yeah, because you have to be very technical. Of course. Because you have to be very technical, you have to turn a key player. On the spot. On the spot. If you have a friendship, you can switch. You can say, look, friend, I think we can do it this way. And have the partnership, have his respect.

It's completely different.

And I think it can be something that goes beyond the set. If you become friends, you'll send a message on WhatsApp.

You'll call.

Of course. Exactly. If it's not a friend, he doesn't want to. Exactly. So, one day before the scene, ask him what he thinks. Talk about the scene. Sometimes there are people who rehearse. It's cool. A positive relationship outside the set helps 100%.

And how was the reference for you to set up your character? How was the study? How was the preparation?

I'm done. I'm ready!

I think the study was based on the script. On the circumstances of the script. And I, speaking only about me, I'm using a lot of my new adult phase, because I'm 21 years old, I'm becoming an adult now. So it's a phase of my life that I also took to the character.

Which is my first adult character. And there are many things in the series that are choices of girl that she leaves behind to have choices of woman, which is what's going on with me now in life, that I think it sticks a lot. So I say that we are very similar, that we have a very similar personality.

There are a lot of people on the internet saying,

fuck, this role went to see Mel Maia. And my friends were like,

Oh my God, it's you!

Very similar. That's how the message of the show came to me. You have to see the show that Mel Maia is doing. It's perfect for her.

And I said, let's see it.

And it was awesome.

It was hard. It was hard, man. Was it, bro? No, it wasn't hard, but for me, because he's a character far from who I am, from my reality, all his characteristics... You had to look for him somewhere else. No, so, what Mel said, I relied a lot on the script,

if you read the script, I read that a lot, I think I know where it is.

He studied a lot.

I dedicated myself to it and also to the universe, which is the game of the beast, the Carioca Mafia, seeing references and everything, and then you go deeper. And it's a text with a lot of intertwining, you read and there's? You read it and there's a lot of things that aren't said. That are in the look, that are in the thought.

That the camera reads everything, right?

My character, for example, is what you look at, you look at him and your head is like... Did you have space to put some shit in?

To improvise?

Of course, of course.

It was a thing that, like, guys, you can...

Only say who is not from Rio. Because Rio people really... the curse word is a comma of Rio people. It's in the vocabulary.

Yes, mom. Obviously. I'm not freedom. Cursing is a normal thing.

Because it's reality.

So what shocked me was, wow, they're being real, and saying the real things.

I think that's what caused this word of cursing, you know?

Yeah, because it's the reality of the Cariocas, we say a lot of curse words.

It's really low. So, bro, I'm here with the headphones I think it was the volume, I think I was screaming

What now, my love?

Now he wants a kiss, he's calling me

Go talk on the microphone, Perifer

Can you hear my voice?

Speak here in my ear

Speak to me, Andrezinha

It's gonna be the whole podcast

No, no, no, I promise to behave I promise to behave. I remember when we were in a podcast, and they said, what about your chemistry?

I said, no chemistry. My girlfriend is a professional boxer. You're crazy. No chemistry. He's a boxer too, and he's too brave.

He is.

Lua, big hug, brother.

I'm going to go. I'm a boxer too, and he's too badass.

He is.

Luan, right?

Luan.

Luan, big hug, brother.

Really.

My beautiful life. He's wonderful.

Did you join the boxing club too?

I did.

I was watching you fight Manolo. No, but I've been boxing for a while. I started going to class with him in August of last year. Oh, he was your personal fighter? He was my teacher. Yeah. Then...

But I do a campaign before.

Let me see this hook here, my lady.

Let me see this hook, you're right.

He's going to fight, I think, on the day... Do they have a date there? I think it's the 15th. How do you feel when he's going to get out of your hand? My legs are shaking, it's crazy. And he looks calm, right? He's like a Buddha.

I don't know how he's a boxer, he's not a meditation teacher. He's a Greek god.

But it must be really bad to see

the person you love there getting beaten up.

No, but it's because...

He won't get beaten up. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. is Valine

Mario

Beleza na violência

Estava falando do

Difícilly de a mel também se toque a câmera entrega tudo tem muita coisa subjetiva

Eu queria saber se as coisas que aconteceram na série vocês iam sabendo I mentioned that the camera delivers everything, there's a lot of subjective stuff. I'd like to know if the things that happen in the series, did you know about them while recording, or did you know about them before? For example, you acting with Juliana Paz, we already knew that she was your mother in the series, but there was a little tension, like...

But you only know that in episode 3.

Yes, yes, but there was already a little tension, like... No, but you only know that in episode 3. Yes, yes, but there was already a little tension that you get...

Oh, but...

What's going to happen?

Everyone is a dreck, bro. But how was it for you at that moment? Was it also... Who is this woman? Or did you already know?

No, no, we... This is like a closed work, right? We receive the 8 episodes. Directly. Soap operas, that you receive little by little. We know what's going to happen. This is very good. I like that, for example, in this project,

my character enters the series in a certain way, and it ends completely different. So this is cool for you, as an actor, to build a character arc. is He's a little dog, he's sweet, and he's a clown, just like me. Yeah, yeah.

He's a chill guy.

So that's it, I'm chill, I see myself like that, I'm a chill guy. And he's not, the prophet is always, man, very energetic, agonizing, he's always solving a problem, and he always runs a life risk, right? This was something that we also, in the preparation, we, for example, went to the BAC, which is the Action Battalion with Dogs,

which is from the police in Rio de Janeiro. It has nothing to do with my character as a policeman. But it was an incredible experience, because we spent a day there, and they are people who are always at risk of life, who are always with adrenaline,

up there, people who, anyway, mess with weapons, everything, so... So it brought a experience that I didn't have, so it's cool for this character. There's even a word that's used a lot, which is speed, right, in this medium. And it's not speed, right, speed, it's speed, bro, everything is very fast. Thoughts have to be fast, it seems like blood in the vein runs faster, so... It was cool to look for that in the preparation. And this character is so different from me.

I used physical things too. Sometimes I was in front of the scene pushing a wall. And like that, each one, right?

Looking for a little piece of paper.

No, no, but I'm laughing because it's true.

How so?

Explain there.

It's a physical exercise, just like when you're like...

I don't know, you know? You're in a scene where you're...

I'm here, chilling with you. I had lunch, and after that lunch, I have to shoot a scene where I'm... Carrying a gun. ...throwing a gun at someone's head, with blood in my eyes,

adrenaline up there, choking breathing. How am I going to do that? I'm going to try to bring the most natural thing possible and try to bring that feeling to my body. And I use a lot of physical exercise.

He used to squat, jump, squat, jump.

He jumps, pushes the wall, thinks mentally. We did that a lot in the preparation with Fátima Toledo. Was it with her? It was with her and with Maria Laura's team.

It was great. I loved it.

Because everyone says she's wonderful, but she has a hard method.

No, it's a different method, but she's wonderful. She's amazing. She's amazing.

I've never been so afraid of someone this tall.

She's tiny.

Why? What is she?

She has a very strong presence. She works a lot with what you have inside you.

But you don't use it.

A lot of things you don't use.

She uses provocations.

And sometimes you didn't even know you had that.

Exactly. And she provokes you to use it on stage.

For example, she said... No, you can continue. No, I was going to ask another question. You can continue. For example, she said I had a hard time showing myself vulnerable. Because I laugh at everything. I'm very funny. She said, but that's not cool. I said, oh yeah, it's not cool. We have to do some exercises to change that.

You're going to be leaning against the wall and you're just, you're going to ask me for real. And she wanted to bring vulnerability, so she put a song. She said, tell me a song that makes you feel sad or melancholic. I played the song, cried a lot, and we opened doors. I showed myself vulnerable in front of them and we already opened doors, we already changed

when we did this exercise

I wanted to ask, at the end of the day you interpret for example, something you never did at the end of the day, how is your head? because I imagine that the body sometimes it must be difficult to separate like, bro, calm down, you're acting

then your body is like, man, this is crazy. I'm shooting, I'm arguing. How does your head feel at the end of the day?

It's very important to know how to separate. Because if you don't, imagine mixing life... I'm playing this guy and mixing it with my life. It's kind of crazy, but physically it's tiring. It must be crazy, man. And also the head... I remember my dad said that I was more stressed, the tension increases, I dreamed a lot when I was in the middle of the scene, I woke up and said, Buffalo, son of a bitch!

I can imagine what must sound like. And you? How do you do it? I think I get tired at the end of the day, sometimes it happens, you know? But I think I'm a very technical actress who turns the key, you know? So, if it's cut, I go out and... I turn it off. I turn it off, you know? And I'm like this since I was young. So I think I learned to be like that since I was young. I don't take him home, I don't bother him, I don't have nightmares, dreams, but it's different for each person.

Yeah.

Not to mention that he had a... His character carried a lot more things. He only had one day off, right? No, we had two days off, but...

Of all the recording days, I didn't record one. Yeah, he recorded a lot. It was like 10 or 12 hours.

Yeah, he recorded a lot.

It's physically tiring, but I also separate well. Otherwise, there's no way. Otherwise, the guy gets crazy. Man, 12. How many days were there? You don't even know.

I think it was 3 months, right, Relief?

It was 4, right? 4 months?

4 months.

My God. My God! Not to mention that our set, the backstage was very cool, very funny, light, it became a family. Both the cast and the whole team. So that also helps.

We looked to the side and we were in the same boat, wanting to do it. Everyone also knew the diamond in hand.

The actors deserve an award too, because, well, Chico Dias is a fucking actor, but you see him doing Galego, you say like this...

It seems he was always Gal damn, Chico Dias is a great actor, but when you see him acting Galician, you're like... He's always been Galician, man.

It seems he is Galician.

He is a little bit.

He is a little Galician.

Who are you acting, doing some acting that you were shocked? Or is there any... without being you, do you have any favorite character in the series?

Dude, I like the skeleton a lot I like Skeletor a lot. I like Nelinho a lot. Nelinho too.

Nelinho I like a lot. I like Kemai. I liked a lot an actor that was a very cool character and his acting was very good but he died in the first episode.

It was Gerson.

Gerson, my dear., you're always the Japanese in the movies.

I'm the one who always fucks up with him.

I don't remember Gerson.

He wasn't Japanese.

No, no, I'm saying it's like the Japanese in the movie, who dies first, you know? There's always the Japanese who's going to die, bro. Poor Gerson this time.

Poor Gerson. Poor thing. But I think Galego is top 1, Skeletor, Nelinho...

Nelinho is really good, he barely talks, but he has everything. What he's feeling, that time your dad provoked Nelinho saying he was just your bodyguard. I was really pissed, I was sad.

I was like, he doesn't treat people like that. is I'm Man, that was so real! So good! But here, I have another curiosity. You were recording, in the middle of it, did you already feel that it would be a success?

How was your mind?

Everything was going to be a success. We knew it would be a success.

No, but this here, no, no, no.

You don't even give a week to record this,

this here will be educated.

No, we had a lot of this conversation, but I think, from my side, we went beyond all the limits.

So, you guys wanted to be fucked up.

I thought it would be awesome, but not so much. People only talk about it. People stop me on the street just to talk about it. People are calling me a girl.

I lost my name too.

I lost it, I already accepted it.

I lost my name too.. I've lost too. Now it's just me, right? I've lost. But when we were recording, you put together some facts, right? Like, Netflix, this amazing platform, they're believing in the series a lot. The cast, you look at the side, just a great name. The story is very good. And you have some internal information from the Netinha guys. You say, the guys areizens, they said it was great,

and I thought it was going to be good. But then, as Mel said, we didn't expect it to work out. And one of the things that surprised me the most, which is great, is that you like a show,

and you finish it in two days, one day. When it premiered, people were already sending messages, asking where the second season was. But we didn't even have time to watch it. I've already watched it all. I've been watching it for 8 hours.

I've heard a lot of people saying that it became a night watching it. It was working on the next day, like dead.

I was happy that when it ended, I said, there's going to be a second part. Because my fear was to end it closed, you know?

Like, it's over. I said, no, there will be a second part. So, from the first one, you already knew there would be a second one?

No.

No?

No.

We felt...

Yeah, because you have to make it a hit.

Yeah, we felt...

Yeah, you have to wait, debut...

We felt that with all the success we were already having in the backstage, and reading and everything, there would be a second one. But there was nothing proven. They were already working on the script. When we did the first reading, the one that was recorded, I don't know if you saw it, we already knew it was going to be a hit.

I already knew. Because, first, we read the script and it was impeccable. And the characters, the actors,

it was all right. We got to the reading and it was so structured. We were like, what is this? We got to the reading, the structure was amazing. The reading was amazing, we had the biggest chairs, benches, there was a truck that put the light on, I was like, what is this? The reading, it was really big.

It was crazy, and you know that feeling in football, when you see a team, you're sure, they're going to make a barbecue, they're going to be in a good mood.

And look what we did.

It's the same thing, you look at them and you say, everything is going great, they're together.

And from the first reading, isn't that crazy? It's crazy. I think that's the most important thing. I think that's the most important thing. I think that's the most important thing. I think that's the most important thing. I think that's the most important thing. I think that's the most important thing. I think that's the most important thing. I think that's the most important thing.

I think that's the most important thing. I'd like to know when you, little girl, said you wanted to be an actress or someone who encouraged you. How did this will come to you?

I've always been very spoiled. I've always had this charismatic way of talking to people. My neighbor had a theater, Marcelo Pires, that's his name. I'd talk to him, little girl, gesticulating that I wanted to be on TV, that I wanted to be a cartoonist. He thought it was cute and understood the message. I think this girl is an artist.

So he put me in his theater.

How old were you?

Five years old. And then I went to the theater with five years old, his theater, and I did my first play without knowing how to read. The teacher would tell me the lines, I memorized them and I did a whole play without knowing how to read.

I saw a scene of yours these days, even, little girl, I think it went viral, you talking, the guy asks for I don't know what, then you come full of mass, you end with the impede, you know?

Oh yeah, I don't like that, I hate twilight.

That's it. Any cat turns into a can of two, I don't know if comedy. She was so small, but with such a big text, full of personality.

A voice-over.

I didn't know anything about the city. I don't know, life. Imagine acting.

There's no way, man.

But you've acted in this theater, this first time, and you said,

that's what I want.

At 5 years old. At 5 years old. I did theater, I loved it, and then I continued in theater, then I did my first test for a series called Clock of Adventure, which I think was a special for Parents' Day or Children's Day, something like that, that was aired on Sundays. Then Avenida Brasil, and then...

Wait, wait, wait. You talk about Avenida Brasil as if it was a...

Yeah.

It was Avenida Brasil, so...

No, it's because I did the test for Avenida Brasil, but I passed it way later.

Did you know it was going to be a success?

Of course not! Of course not!

You were recording!

How was the audition? You were a 6-year-old.

It's hard to remember, but the audition was at the station, I went, and I recorded a little bit, and I think I said it, I remember looking remember the camera, if I'm not mistaken. And your family? I don't remember, no, it was the director, at the time I think they didn't record.

Did your family always support you?

My mother was always there with me, always there with me, she was waiting for me, my mother didn't even worry that I would do everything alone. Mourinho Benício, Vera Holtz. I'll only understand that later.

That's what I was going to say.

I think what helps you deliver a great job, for you being a child, is not having a lot of notion. Obviously, when you say notion, it means that you don't have professionalism, it's not good. But it's like, it's a child, the child doesn't understand, oh, you're working with Vera Holtz. She looks at an older person and says, oh, cool, a girl who's going to be my mom. That's very good too, on the one hand, right?

That's a great experience. It doesn't put the weight on anything, it just goes.

For me it was a fun park, but I knew, but I learned a lot from the directors at the time. It was fun, but at the time of the scene, you had to turn the key, focus and go. So that's how it worked, I cut the amusement park. My childhood was all about that.

And at school?

I studied at the same school.

You were the famous girl at school.

I was the famous girl. I studied at the same school until the 8th grade. So it was quiet. People grew up together. They grew up together, they were used to it. When I moved from school to the 9th grade,

that's crazy, right? 9th grade, you there... In high school. In high school, that adolescent thing.

People were more in favor or were like...

People were more like...

I see.

Because it was that phase of being kind of... And rebel, so it was a little harder. But after a year, people got used to it.

But how did it go through your head at that time in Avenida Brasilia, people standing on the street, talking about you I loved it!

Yeah?

I loved it! I was very happy, I was always very nice, kind of political, I talked to everyone And it was great, I loved it! And I remember when I was younger

No, talk to the door!

Imagine she's a little kid, imagine she's a little kid

No, I was a kid, I didn't stop talking to her as a kid. And I remember when I was much younger, I think I was about 4 or 5 years old, I used to tell my dad, I want to take pictures with people on the street. I want people to take pictures.

So you knew.

I was kind of an artist since I was little. That's crazy.

It's crazy. It's like a prodigy. What was a cool memory you had of Avenida Brasil at that time?

Many. I remember when Adriana Stevesen had to mistreat me, she cried. And she would get in trouble with the director. Why are you crying? This is professionalism. And you can't. It was all very...

Hard.

Hard. At that time it was all a little harder. I think it was good football simple Here my cringe super Calcutta, Gia, Nevada, but I can't tell so you can't even get me go. Oh, yes. Oh, no party for the year So come on. Yeah, I did go spin a minute They will show you a bar I care in Towson. I mean I'll say no. No, I really cool, I learned a lot, it was like a school, you know?

We keep imagining a child, and we've been a child, and we know that the child is scared, doesn't want to, cries and wants to leave

wants to leave

wants to, I won't do it, and this didn't happen to you, apparently

And children have no idea of life, the right to separate, right? Like, you asked, how do didn't take it home. I think about it sometimes. You're so young, 7 years old. How do you differentiate what you're doing there, which is a job, from what your real life is?

I didn't have that. I always knew how to differentiate.

It's very lucid.

I didn't take it home. There was a psychologist at the time who accompanied me If I got a low grade they would say Hey, calm down, let's lower the grade here

And you at school? How was it?

Unwind, get a good grade, mess?

Yeah, so I was unwind To a certain point I only got a good grade and then I became that average student, but I was always very unwind

It's because you knew you were going to be an actress, right? No, right? I was always very down. Because you knew you were going to be an actress. No! You didn't say that at school. I'm an actress!

No, no. My mom always said, no, no. You have to study. Imagine if something happens. And also, where I worked my whole life, I was a psychologist to see if the grades were good.

If they were bad at school, it would interfere with work.

Let's change change here. So you were a child who worked as a child but didn't lose your childhood.

No, imagine, I was a child who did everything. I already checked my childhood, everything. Doing all the shit at school, blowing up trash cans,

screwing everyone up.

How crazy, because usually when we talk to a person who has been working since a child,

she didn't have a very crazy childhood, a life like that.

No, I had, I did a lot of shit.

Thank God, you're great. She's 21. And you, man.

How old did you start acting?

I started, now I'm even feeling old when I started acting.

It's not that bad.

Two years she was already... I started when I was 15, 14, 15. My brother, I have a brother who is 4 years older than me

Victor

He's a great guy

He sent you a hug

Victor!

He's pure talent

I've seen a piece of his song, La Mota, by Victor Parafernalha, I've seen a lot

He's so talented The way he is, man, he's so funny And there's no one who doesn't know him and says, No, I've seen a lot of good bad guys, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, he has a very good way of doing things, man. He's chill and funny.

So he pulled this good guy first in your case?

So he started doing, he's four years older, he started acting first, right? Not because he's older, but he started first. He would do his plays, he was always proactive He would always do... He wanted to do a play, he would gather his friends This is the one you must have seen He would gather his friends and do it, make it happen And I would see that movement inside the house

I would ask to accompany him And when I went to see it, I would go to the play with him I would ask to set up a stage I would say, let me do this I would bring water to the actors, I'd line up to go into the theater, 15 years like that.

That's a long time.

And then I started enjoying it and I told my parents to put me in a course, I started studying at Tablado, then I did the play...

I've already done Tablado too.

Yeah, I did it for about 3 years.

What is Tablado?

It's a theater school.

It's a theater school. But is it a specific theater school? No. Not a specific training? Because every time I hear people say, tablada, and then, I also did tablada, and then it seems that there is different.

It's different.

No, because it's a very well-known school in Rio, a lot of people left there. I understand. They use a lot of improvisation too, right, to learn, right? and I start talking about something specific, you are working on a theme and at the end of the day you say, the theme is this and that, you put together a group and you set up a scene, I want 5 minutes of scene, everyone, and we get organized, we talk and do the scene

and you have to organize the scene in 5 minutes

wow, that's crazy

and it's really cool, and there you go out with a good experience and from there I started doing the pieces, I made a professional piece, the first one. Cinderella. Cinderella.

In 15, 16.

And I was Stan Dean, the actor substitute for the Prince. Including this piece.

How is that? You stay in the reserve bench?

I hope he breaks his leg.

You stay in the reserve bench like this, damn it, man, he's not going to do it today, God willing. He's not going to, man. He's not going to. And I think that sometimes what I did was even for the sake of the audience, because...

Leave him alone a little bit.

He, right, he wasn't bad, right? And he said, no, let Andre do a piece. Let him... Then I did it. But it was musical. And in my day, the theater was packed! It was because of you! It was packed! It was awesome!

Theater is something magical! There are few times you'll have something like that in your life! It's an immediate response! It's a cold in your stomach, as soon as you don't feel anything, it's an immediate response,

because you see the audience enjoying it, you get the response, and when you're there, you don't want to leave the stage.

But have you ever been in a theater where you were doing a play and you were like, Oh my God, it's not fitting, and then you get nervous.

You just want the play to end soon. You look at the audience's faces and... Because making a mistake in a play is...

But sometimes the audience doesn't know that you made a mistake.

Yeah, when you... The last play I did, I did with Cauê Campos, he's a wonderful actor, he's also a friend of mine, both of us. So when I made a mistake, he helped me. So when you make a play with someone, the person helps you.

If you do it alone, it was a scene... Damn, the first day I went to do the play, he got nervous, man. There was a scene where I was like this, I was the prince, I was sitting like this in the chair, and I gave an order to the people who worked for the prince, so you go, you have to go get it,

and don't come back here, I don't know, something like that. Then the guy would leave the scene, theoretically. So I said, go, don't come back here. And he stayed. And you don't come back here.

And he stayed.

I said, what's up?

Don't come back here.

Get out!

And what was happening? In the pillow, they had told him, because Cinderella had lost her shirt, and she had to find it, because the next scene she had to be... And he said, I'm nervous. Then he left. Damn, what a relief.

And it took a while. It took a while. But people didn't notice. No, because it was in my head. But then you understand and you relax and improvise. That's the trick.

Before acting, did you have another job? Did you only acting with 15?

No, no. What I did a lot, I studied. I was always very connected to sports. I played everything related to sports in my life. But did you try to be a professional in any of them? At that time I was playing tennis, I was playing championships. I love to play.

But it's very hard, right?

Unfortunately, in our country, the sport is a little harder Even in football, we see that there are few who can do it

Even in Brazil, they play football

I even thought about trying to link sport with education and study There are many times that I look at the sports scholarship. That was the idea. I really liked it.

Do you have a YouTube channel?

No.

No? You didn't have a channel yet? Manu, you're talking too much. We know that you had a channel.

It's easy to act, bro. It's hard to have a channel on YouTube.

It's hard.

It didn't last long.

It didn't go well?

No, it was more like a reserve.

I remember him from a long time ago.

You know my past.

I get it.

But it was cool. It was that time of wanting to do everything, discovering things. I've always been a risk taker, wanting to be in the right place, to do things.

Did you talk a lot with Victor? He had more experience than you and your career started to get more complicated. How was this exchange with him?

Today we talk more than before. I learned a lot by observing him, seeing these things, and it's part of his proactivity, so that too, wanting to set up a show, I don't know, it came from that inspiration. And today we talk a lot more, I talk to him because I know that there will be a sincere answer, than me asking his opinion, it will be very direct.

He gives the talk.

Yeah, I say like this, it's no use lying, he says, obviously not, do I trust the world. My sister is very different from me, but at the same time we are very similar. That's good, right?

My sister is very shy, she pees, she doesn't like to take pictures, she doesn't like to video. My sister is a dentist.

When you said sister, I said, do you have a sister?

Yeah.

I didn't know.

Yeah, because she's very closed, she pees. And she's graduating as a dentist this year.

Congratulations. And, Mel, even though you're new, you've done a lot of work. You have a great notion, but how many soap operas, movies have you done?

Do you know?

I don't know.

If I stop to count now...

Some soap operas, right? Avenida Brasil, Jarrar, Além do Tempo, Liberdade e Liberdade,

Vai na Fé, Dona do Pedaço, I won't remember all of them. Go with faith. Go with faith.

Lady of the Piece.

I won't remember all the names. What was the best time you recorded a soap opera?

Joya Rara. Joya Rara has an M. Did you know? I have an M for Table. Not for Table.

Table is at work.

It's at work.

But we traveled to Nepal for a month to record this soap opera. It was really cool because the soap opera told the story of the Buddhas and I was the reincarnation of a Buddhist monk. So it was really cool. So we had to learn everything about the culture. I learned mantras, how I should dress, how I should talk, I learned words.

An actress or an actor has to be free of everything and prejudices.

Totally.

The actor is very open and free. I'm not going to say it's a bad thing, but I'm not going to say it's a bad thing.

I'm not going to say it's a bad thing. I'm not going to say it's a bad thing. I'm not going to say it's a bad thing. I'm not going to say it's a bad thing. I'm not going to say it's a bad thing. more than other people. You have contact with, I don't know, if you have to do a homosexual scene, you'll do it. If you have to have sex with someone, you'll have sex. If you have to do a monk, you'll do a monk. If you have to do a drug dealer, you'll do a drug dealer. So you live in several nuances at all times.

Does this, for your personal life, help you to be better people, to grow more? I believe so, because we have many different experiences. I think our profession is the coolest profession in the world. That's what I tell everyone. It can be anyone. In one life, everyone has one life, I choose a profession for the rest of my life. We can be many things.

I was a swimmer. I was...

What was the most random thing you've ever been?

Living in the trash.

Living in a dump. I've lived in a dump, I've lived in a luxury house, I've been prejudiced, I've been super deconstructed, I've been a swimmer, I've been a swimmer, I've been a football player, I've been an influencer, a lot of things in one life.

But it's because we also dive a lot when you get a character, you dive a lot into that universe, right? So you end up knowing a lot, right? You have to a lot, right? So you end up knowing a lot of things.

You have to be inside, right?

Yeah, and you say, for example, make a homosexual character. You also understand, right? Even though I think a lot of things come from creation, and it's very good for the person to always be understanding what's going on in the world, and adapting, but you go on respecting. When I made Ivan as Elite, I got a lot of love.

You see that your work is helping a lot of people. I say that the idea was never to teach anyone anything in that area, but you see someone being represented and feeling proud of it, happy, you helped them in some way. Even more in such a delicate subject that unfortunately a unfortunately many people still have their heads too far behind. Then you see it and say, wow, cool, that somehow I empowered someone,

made someone feel like a better person in this life.

It's very cool when we talk to actresses and actors, that we sometimes touch on some subjects that you don't even see the person's mustache shaking. She talks about it in a natural way and I think it's so cool, you know? Because sometimes we put a lot of prejudice in things and I think it's very evolved. And what Mai said, I think it's...

It has a more open mind, right? More evolved.

For sure, man. And I think it's very, very cool. So, it's really cool, because it's fucking hard, man, It's hard to let go of our prejudices and everything.

I think that to be an artist you have to be more open-minded and deconstructed. I think we learn a lot by working.

One of the things we do in the preparation is to understand that we are not... We are there giving our feelings to a character. So deconstruct any prejudice, deconstruct anything. And there are things, you take what's positive and you take it to your life. That's why you were talking about evolving. I think it's a bit of that too.

You learn a lot, because we dive a lot into diverse subjects, right? So you take that and you bring what's good for you. You talked about Elite, let's talk about Elite, it was a huge success, how was it to record and participate in this success? And leaving one success and entering another, what a phase, bro! It was awesome!

Did you speak Spanish?

Yeah, I did. I spoke because I did a Disney series, and a Brazilian one, and I was invited to do a series of Disney Argentina, and that my character was even Brazilian, but I needed to speak Spanish, it was just the scene in Spanish. And then, man, even on my own, I gave a guy, for example, another thing that the acting gave me, I went after, right? But, I speak Spanish today, I'm sure it's because of my job.

Did you learn how to do this character?

I learned how to do it. I took a course and was studying Spanish every day.

You have to dive in your head.

I didn't speak anything. I went to Argentina before to record and study more and more. The protagonist of the series was Spanish and then after we finished the pandemic and then everyone at home without working and he sent a message later for us this Spanish protagonist when my manager here is looking for actors to do a test for a series here in Spain I put my manager in contact with them, anyway. And then the test came. And I saw it was Elite. I said, fuck.

I discovered it.

Fuck no, because there was still a lot missing. I had only received the self-tape. Damn. And then I did this self-tape at home, I sent it.

Man, in Spanish, self-tape, crazy.

In Spanish, man, but no, I'm a spirit! I wasn't Spanish yet, because I spoke, but then I spent 5 years in Spain, now I'm a Califian. But at that time, I did it, in the middle of the pandemic, I sent it, the director came back, he said, let's try to do it like this, now, this would be personally, but also because of the pandemic and the distance I did about 3 self tapes and sent them to him until one day he called me and said, we are seeing if you come, it's like October if you are already coming to do a costume show in January

I said, wait a minute, I don't understand he said, you are, you are, you are coming here in January I said, man, I kept my posture there wonderful, wonderful to work with you super happy, thank you very much thank you so much. Thank you.

And the little hand has to come. I closed the computer and said, Holy shit, man!

That's awesome, man.

It was awesome as hell. Elite was a show that changed my life, too. I can't deny it.

And the success that was among the young people, my sister went crazy with this show, you know?

She went crazy. It's something that surprises me to this day, because it was a worldwide success. And it's worldwide. I went to Bosnia once, and I got an award. I imagined that I would go to Bosnia, that I would go to Bosnia, get an award, and that I would go to Bosnia, get an award, and have a fan there, you know? And the people there, who followed my work, turn and move around the airport and someone comes to me speaking English. I ask where he's from. He says he's from the Philippines, Russia, Thailand. I say, wow, that's cool. How was it to interpret this role?

Studying is to make it.

How was it that we talked about the first one and how was this one?

Man, this one had the fact of the language, right? That I was already much more controlled. And it was a very cool character too, because he was a Brazilian, right? He also had a construction in the series that was... He said he was straight, he was discovering himself, and, anyway, fighting against his own prejudices.

Awesome.

And it was really cool, it was a really cool building. And my scene partners were all amazing people, which is also very important. We were talking about topics that... A lot of people... Anyway, delicate topics. It was amazing, I felt very happy. Very happy for the fact that I commented that many people felt identified and could help in a way. Representing, I don't feel like a representative, but the fact of being able to help and represent the character.

And it's very cool, I was happy. And it was a project that I know also put me in another place, in this global scope, it had a very cool reach.

Mel, I wanted to know how it was in your head, because small actresses and small actors, who are very successful, who play great roles, I see that sometimes they carry a stigma of the character Did you have this fear of, will I always be Rita? Will I always be Nina? Because you even said, right? I made my first adult character

and it was a mess I don't think it even links with what you did in Avenida Brasil but I wanted to know if you personally had this thought, Wow, when an adult comes, I'm going to have a heart attack.

That wasn't a thought I had every day, it wasn't a neurosis, it wasn't a neurosis. And I knew this moment was coming, because I'm becoming an adult now. I even thought that this character, which for me is very important in my career, now in this turn of key, came very early. So I was very happy, I wasn't worried about it, I knew it would come at the right time.

It's scary when people say, and you said 21, I said, damn, I've been used to seeing her for a long time, it gives the impression that you are not 21 years old, it seems that you are older than me, like 29, 30 years old, you know?

Oh yeah, I thought you were going to say the opposite, because sometimes people say,

but now, my God, I'm getting old. You put yourself on top, right?

I remember you, much younger.

No, for me to see you, obviously, you were very successful, small, and then you were a phenomenon on social media. Your work on social media is very well done and you became very well known for that too And seeing you so much, it gives the impression that you are older than me

I understand, I also listen to that, people say, you seem to be a little more mature for your age

I think that's it

I listen to that too, I think it's because I started very early, because of my personal experiences, but I think that the work also gives a lot of experiences and people think that I'm older.

I have another question for you. You did the Go In Faith, and I think this soap opera was very important for Globo, because I think it gives back a certain protagonism to the soap opera of the 70s, and a lot of people watched it again, because it was a huge hit, Cabelinho, you and such, how was this soap opera for you? Because it was awesome, I remember that at the time people said that the Globo soap operas were a bit too much, then Vine Affair came and it was a hit.

All the soap operas that I participate in, my dear...

No, no, you can give this one a break.

No, I'm kidding, but this soap opera was really top.

Did you know it was going to be a hit in the reading? When you read it.

That's his question.

You all know now.

Did you know it was going to be a hit?

Mel, you were there.

No, but it was a really cool character, because my last character in Globo was, I think, I may be wrong, in The Lady of the Piece, because I was much younger. So it was my first young and adult character, so for me it was also important in my career. So I was very happy, and it was a character different from everything I had done before, it was a kind of rough influencer, who lived in a bubble, kind of stupid, like that.

But you gave a bubble, a bit stupid.

But you gave a lot.

And it was really cool, it was different from everything I did, so it was also very important in my career.

When you're going to make a character like that, a bit rough or unempathetic, don't you get like, it's not possible that people will... because people... Bro, there are people who believe that... I don't know if people really believe it, but people call you Mirna, so I'm like...

I think with people like that, bro...

There are people who get confused, man.

I think they get confused.

There are a lot of people.

There are people who get confused. It never happened to me, but I know there are people who get confused.

There are people who must be telling you, you're fucked, man, man little bit of a mess No, I mean, I'm gonna go look it up a new cafe maneuver. It's all my skin My thank you to my agent a gentry as well as a sketchy pool Good to me. I'm gonna go prophetic But a book a guy that I'm gonna get I'm gonna get I'm gonna get to do deal even my car I'm gonna put a fetal and I first impression. It's ready in your mouth. Are you done?

No.

You two, are you done?

No, we're never gonna finish. Seriously, we're here together.

No, I'm not.

But it's really awesome.

Which episode did you watch? I watched only two. It... Fuck, everything I said...

It's a show you watch every day.

No, no, no, because...

Life is crazy.

I'm getting what you're getting, but just by seeing everyone at the table,

delirious, with their eyes this big, talking about the show...

No, we understand. And we know everything too, because we watched it before the release.

Do you watch it excited too?

A lot. We send you messages. It's a mixture of excitement, ass in hand, it's all... And you keep seeing yourselves acting and saying,

Wow, this one I was awesome, I should have caused more.

Of course!

It's a thing like that.

Of course! The actor has a lot of self-confidence. We say, let's watch it normally. Let's watch it without judging.

Without judging.

And you say, fuck!

It could have been better.

It was cool. The amount of scenes that when you record, you say, fuck, you leave the recording saying, fuck, what a shit, but okay, let's go. It was better than we thought. It was amazing. What's your favorite scene? My favorite scene? I really like the scene from the last episode. The character has been through a lot, he's different. The one with Susana, he even sent her away.

I really like this one with Mel, who was commenting on the test. I'm playing a male. I'm a male. I'm a male. I'm a male. I'm a male.

I'm a male.

I'm a male. I'm going to give you a spoiler, if you don't want to hear it, just cover your ears. He kills the shadow, the prophet kills the shadow, because that's also the change of the character. You didn't cover your ears.

He doesn't even know what a shadow is. I think there's a scene of you guys that I found very funny. She gives you a hug, she goes to your house, you're with a girl...

Wow, what a hateful face I have in this scene!

I feel hate for Mirna!

But it's very funny when he goes to your house and you say the same thing to him. Like, the guy who's with her is very rude, you know? He's a snitch, he gets a snitch. He gets bitten. It's a very funny scene.

But I convinced her. The prophet convinced her.

You're a good liar, the prophet.

Oh, yeah.

It's one of those.

Oh, yeah, the prophet.

The prophet...

And yours, Mel? Your favorite scene?

It's hard, right?

It's too hard, right? It's too hard. But I like the scene with the I love you. I say I love you to him because she tries to be cute and say she loves him but she's a little... tough.

Remember that smile didn't come out?

Yeah, he didn't want to smile to me.

No, no, that's not it. No, one of the things that, in the character's construction, there were scenes where I was smiling. And our director, Heitor, would say, no, man, let's cut that smile.

It'll be more serious, more contained. And I was working on that, putting it in my head. And then, in this scene, she says, I love you, and he smiles, he had to smile and say I love you too. And sometimes the smile was like, where is he now, he had to come and he's not coming.

You know, it kind of dried up, but it's a characteristic of the character. But he smiled, he put it here, and left for him.

He smiled, but I said smile for me, no, it wasn't in that scene. Not in this scene either, but it was in that deleted scene.

Which one? The one from...

Anyway, yeah, the carnival scene. You didn't smile. I said smile to me. I don't know if you have to smile or not.

You can't tell if the scene was deleted to be successful on social media.

Because, like, everything that comes out of you is really good. social And it's a cool scene for the episode, right? We conquered it at the carnival, we're together at the samba club.

We don't really understand why they delete the scenes, but... It's an editing thing, right? Because it doesn't fit, it's too big. We just accept it.

Did you guys go to the carnival to record?

At the samba club.

No, we went to the samba club.

And there was actually a samba school there, right? It was during Carnival. No, I think during Carnival they took aerial images, but without sponsorship, without those things, and used them. And from afar, because we couldn't identify anything, the samba school, we couldn't identify anything. And during Carnival, during our Carnival, we went to the Sambódromo, but there was a green background.

How is it to star, to play bad, nefarious characters, and to deliver a charisma. And to know that this is real life.

How is this game in your heads?

It was something I asked the director a lot, it's very difficult, and even this thing about the smile, I said, it's going to be a little expensive, and he said, trust me. And I trusted him.'s going to be a little expensive. And he said, I trust myself. And I trusted him, I trusted the director.

And he knows exactly what he wants, what he builds. And he was a guy, a director who goes putting everything together, he sees the scene, he already goes putting it together in his head, what he said, he said, I already know what's going to come in, what's not going to come in, If I ask you for something, you've already done it, and everything is fine." So it was based on trust.

I knew that if it wasn't going well, and he was looking for it a lot, he'd say, man, you're charismatic. So I trusted him and went. But that's it, building the character, trying to find it. It was hard, right? He's a serious guy. It was a lot of work.

The Prophet is a dreamer.

Yeah, but he's getting beaten up more because he doesn't know what he's going to face.

If I were the screenwriter and my will was granted, for me, the one who had to become the owner of everything was Mirna.

Of course!

Of course!

The possibility... But now, for the fans... Of course! Of course! Of course! Of course! Of course!

You said it, my dear!

There's a possibility, there's a second... But, now, for the fans...

Actually, sorry...

Let me just answer my first question.

No, but actually there's no possibility of a Beastmall game. No woman can sit on a throne, unless the director wants to, against reality.

Because it's a macho medium, right?

So, is that it? So there's no possibility, unfortunately. In the preparation we had workshops with people who understand a lot about this universe. And then I think some girl asked, but if my character wants to advance, he went like this, at the time he won't. He can't. But it's something that builds... That's it.

That's it. That's it and that's what it is. So it's cool, they go to the city and...

Of course, of course. It's because it's telling something that really exists in Rio de Janeiro. The mafia is from Rio.

I've played with the animal, for my grandma, I swear. But I've played with the little animal.

What an animal, do you remember? She went to buy bread for her grandma.

She said, you throw the bread in the monkey, or whatever animal, and it goes and throws it. In the eagle.

We have, each character has animals that are representative.

Yeah, did you know that? Mirna is the tiger, Suzana is the cat, so much so that they use rings.

So, when I read the rings, I said, this is a feline ring. But then I thought that everyone had a ring.

Everyone has a pet. I'm a tiger, Suzana is a cat, he's an eagle, Buffalo is a dog, Juliana is a butterfly, Chico is a lion.

It's more than an animal, you see the personality of the animal, that's why you don't notice eagle, the eagle's personality is that animal that is always looking up when you hit the ball, it's a direct hit, right? It's the one that gives confidence, the lion, which is Chico's, the king of the jungle.

Yeah, the myrna, the tiger, the myrna.

And what's the cat? Susana.

Susana?

So you're more picky than her.

I agree, myrna is more hot than her. I agree. Mirna is hotter than Suzana. Buffalo is the dog.

He's a bit of a boss.

He's that dog that goes...

But really, Chamã interpreted Buffalo in a very cool way.

He's very funny.

He's the buffalo. That's awesome. But, for the fans, do you have a date for the second season?

I know it's a new season.

No way.

What can you tell us? Because it's what people are talking about the most. There's going to be a second season. What can you tell us about the second season?

There's going to be a second season because we really don't know anything.

Are you going to keep a secret for us? I don't know anything, I swear. We don't know anything. We only know that there will be a second season. But it was confirmed last week. People are intimidating us. They send us messages saying stop doing what you're doing, go record the second season.

And you have other projects planned to start. How does your life work at this moment? Like, there will be a second season, so I'll work to the projects here. Or I'm going to go crazy, I'm going to work on other things. How is this phase?

No, we don't stop working, right? But we don't know the exact date, but we know more or less the period we're going to shoot.

And you have exclusivity, too. So, if it's not, you decide. So if you do it, if there are seasons, we're the ones who decide.

I try to schedule other projects, but away from the period we think will be filmed.

But there's always that... People get along, it's great, depending on the production. Everything is discussed.

You are very young, but you've already done several roles. Is there something you dream of doing? Like a superhero?

This question...

Wagner Moro wants to be a werewolf, for example. I want to be a friend of Wagner Moro's werewolf! I I'm going to give you a message of 1 minute and 12 seconds today. Wagner Moura. Vladimir Brichta.

He's talking about Wagner Moura.

You fucked him up.

I'm kidding.

I'm talking about Wagner.

Vladimir sent me an Instagram video.

I was in shock.

He's going to make the movie with us.

Will he make the werewolf I wanted to make with Wagner? And then it fell to me.

The thing Wagner Moura talked about this werewolf was... It was in the interior of Bahia and it was a movie of him with Vladimir and with Lázaro, right?

They want to make a movie of her.

And now you.

The daughter of the werewolf. Wagner, good people, I already call him Vaguin. Vaguin! Has it happened to you before? No, who gave it to you?

But do you want to do a role... He blurted out, we laughed, but he was like, bro, seriously, fuck it, I want to be a werewolf.

I...

Do you have one?

Go ahead.

Go.

No, I... I have a strong desire to do a lot of things I want to make a biography of someone awesome

Wow, that must be crazy

I want to make a story, a big drama, a comedy That's what's awesome, I want to do everything I like to do a lot of different things But isn't there an idealized one? There are projects, including one that I'm doing now, that I'm developing, are my own projects that I want to develop and do, and be part of, not only there,

and be behind, also, in the creation. Writer, director of the thing. So there are certain things that I'm there.

Hey, but isn't it different for you to start writing something for you, because in this you told me it is a project and you're putting not only you as a screenwriter, you want to act too.

How is that?

There are people who do it not only to act, but you do something there, sometimes you even think about you or not, or something you feel like doing, but obviously I'm not the only one.

I never needed to project that thing. But obviously I'm not the only one. I don't need to be in the project.

But there's a team, a scriptwriter, everything.

And you, Mirna? Do you want to do a crazy role or whatever comes to your mind?

This Mirna character is already really cool for me because she's very carioca. I've always wanted to do a carioca character, but I still want to do it from another niche, from the carioca and I've always wanted to make a character that's a root of carioca but I still want to make it from another niche, from carioca you know, a carioca root, show the difficulties with carioca, I don't know, favela, past, realities, you know? I think that's it.

You want to explore more in carioca

Carioca, yeah. I think I'll do more... Play at home, right? Because Rio de Janeiro has a lot to say. A lot. We're doing this series about the game of the animal. Man, a lot of people didn't know the game of the animal in Brazil, you know?

If they had asked me, I would have said that the Prophet is a character that I would like...

If I hadn't done it, I would have said, please, let me do this character. Amina is a dream for me.

Yeah, the way you said Amina.

She's very carioca, roots, she told an important carioca story.

How carioca is Mel Maia?

I think she's...

I don't know, she's already passed, right? Transborda.

Transborda. I'm from Rio too, right? I'm from Rio too. But from Gema? Gema, Gema, Gema.

Where are you from?

I was raised in the center of Rio de Janeiro. In Gamboa, Morro da Saúde.

You don't see yourself leaving Rio.

To live here in São Paulo?

Nothing. To live in São Paulo?

Calm down, man.

You threw yourself back. Guys, I'm not going to live in São Paulo. Nothing. I'm going to live in São Paulo. You threw yourself back. Sorry guys. I love Janeiro.

São Paulo is not even inside.

Would you come here?

Don't say that.

I'm not a São Paulo guy.

We are very carioca. We love Rio. We love the quality of life in Rio. Our city doesn't like it. But São Paulo, I love it, I came here. It's good to moments in your life.

Rio de Janeiro is... which moment? For example, Madrid. Rio de Janeiro is every moment. You already kicked it, right? No, bro, you got mad.

The first one is Madrid, I think.

You know, one that was amazing... No, talk about Madrid. Okay, but let me talk about another one later.

Me too.

Man, Madrid is an incredible city that for me, at the moment I was in my life, was awesome. Because I was in a professional moment, in construction, cool. Man, fuck, everyone, man. Everyone, like, I became a good friend of Vini.

Wow.

And then he invited me to come and watch. I said, of course I'm going to watch. I saw Real and Manchester City. Real and PSG, those semi-finals. You lived there, man! It was awesome, man.

How cool!

It was every Tuesday and Wednesday.

How long did you live there?

Almost 5 years, man. You became a Madrilenian. Yeah, man. What's a cool place to do it in Madrid, without being a soccer club. Without being a soccer club? There are the classic ones, the cool parks to go to, but Madrid you eat really well. And I like the little corners, you look and say, here you eat really well.

Madrid is a vibe, but what else did There are cities that are... So, Madrid is a city that is happening a lot of things, everything happens. There is a lot of work, a lot of social life, a lot of young people, a lot of networking, a lot of things that happen. So, depending on the moment you are in your life, if you are involved in this, it is a very cool city to be. And it was a moment in my life that I was, that vibe. It was awesome, I love it there. And there are many connections with the whole world.

Which was the other one you wanted to talk about?

The other one, when I was 18, I went to live in Itacaré. I stayed six months in Itacaré, recording the Disney series. And I had just finished school, I was studying acting for a long time. It was that moment when things weren't... Getting into gear. Getting into gear. I was in the show for a while, and it was that moment when things weren't going well. And then I saw this amazing project by Disney, when I was 18.

I was the main character of the show, it was a surfing show.

Don't you start to think a little bit? With all due respect, 18 years old, main character of the Disney show, my God, I was going to walk without a shirt.

I understand you.

It's from each one You want to give a little slap? No, I'm a humble guy He's coming back now No, fuck Now I have to give a little slap

I'm going to lose the credibility of the prophet Yeah, but you can't be like that

People see you on the street

You can't be nice, you have to slap in the face The thing is that people see me on the scene and believe what I to people on the street, you have to slap them in the face The thing is that they see me on stage and believe what I'm saying On the street, fuck it

On the street you're cute

But it was awesome, a city that I stayed there, man Imagine, I'd stay all day in shorts, on the beach, recording I was recording, working with people my age, really good people

A dream

A dream, six months there I So, nowadays I don't get jealous.

Do you have cities like that?

Not to mention Rio de Janeiro.

That you like, too.

Yeah, I like Rio. It's because I'm very attached to Rio. But, for example, half of my childhood was in Cabo Frio. For example, he says, Madrid. I say, Cabo Frio. He's like that.

Madrid, like Madrid. I said Cabo Frio! He's like this! My moment is in Rio, I don't want to leave either.

But Cabo Frio, I had a really cool childhood in Cabo Frio. My uncle had a nice house there, so I used to go to Praia do Peró, Praia das Conchas, I remember doing a tattoo, picolé, tererê, so I have a nice memory of Cabo Frio.

But do you travel a lot?

Now I travel a lot? Now I travel a lot Do you travel for work or for fun?

Fun is when you rest Now I travel to rest I went to Thailand recently, it was wonderful

Tell us about Thailand, I'm crazy to go

It's a dream Did you bathe the elephant? I did, and the elephants are very well cared

I'm crazy to bathe an elephant

They have a very strict diet They have a very strict diet very strict diet, a very tasty food, you make food, you take a shower, and then you take off all the mud, and they are very well taken care of, very cool, and everything you see looks like a painting.

A country you've never been to and you want to go?

That's it, interviewer.

Good, good. And did you already know it was going to be a success? In reading. is You said a country, I'm going to say it. I want to go to Greece. Greece is awesome.

Have you ever been? No. I want to go.

I want to go to those white hotels.

All of them are from Jessinho.

Jessinho is bad.

There's a pichador there.

There's a pichador. He would make a crime there.

Mel, since you're so carioca, and Rio de Janeiro is one of the most visited tourist places in the world, crime He actually put or you generally do those lugares turisticos my visitado do mundo mas a galera que acaba con vai por rio fazendo o

comundo turista

Cristo seja foi no Cristo

É muito engraçado isso os carioca não vão no Cristo cara que nem quem mora na praia todo mundo já foi para foi quando um parente de não sei da onde foi I live in the beach. No, everyone has been there. It was when a relative from I don't know where went to visit.

I've never been to Cristo.

But what's cool about doing it in Rio de Janeiro, imagine that I've never been to Rio de Janeiro

and I want to have. But Cristo is beautiful, the view from up there is bizarre.

Cristo is beautiful. Beautiful, beautiful.

We are Christians. But we don't go every weekend, right? I live here, he's there. We look at him all day and go, wow! Give him a hug like that.

He's always like that, right?

He's a nostalgic kid.

Remember Didi in the head of Chris The Dentist?

I remember.

I remember Didi coming out of the house.

He walked, he walked in the arm. I remember looking at you and thinking, into the Christ of the Apostles There's a bunch of people who go around zeroing the games, right? They say, like, damn, I got into the head of Christ

What a good one, Didi!

In the head of Jesus Christ, stone, read it and leave it there

What a roll!

But it was the time

Say a random roll that you say you want to do too Like, get out of Christ's head. Holy shit, what a day. Getting out of Christ's head is pretty cool, man. I wanted to score the Libertadores final goal for my team, but it's not possible.

What's your team's name? Corinthians? I'm pretty cool, man. I'm going to be in the final. My team, right?

What's this, bro? What's this? Why this aggressiveness?

Let's go.

You're welcome, bro. Respect. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no For a tourist, I'd say Copacabana Beach, but closer to Fort.

There are waves, so the tourist doesn't drown, but you can have a mate, eat a biscoito globo, eat on the beach.

The leme is nice.

The leme is nice too. There's the stone, you can jump off the stone.

Oh my gosh, do you know leme?

Oh my gosh.

I think it's an experience, you eat the cheese, the corn. Wow, the cheese. Oh my gosh! When they get to 1,000, I say, stop it, you don't have to. They come and say, what's up, Gaon?

Are you going to leave 1,000 with us? Veigas left 2,000.

2,000?

2,000.

It's hard at the beach. Boxing, model, cello, caravan.

When they come, I say...

He's a salesman.

You have a great talent.

They can graduate. They're so naughty, they're so naughty. Let's go, let's go. It's the Carioca's Lab. Beach.

No, Carioca is out.

Beach. I think it's cool too. Eat. No, eat, I'll stop talking about it, but eat, of course. It's good in a bar, a corner bar.

Iced beer with a portion.

Top. But to do the tour, for example, in Rocinha, Vidigal, I think it's worth it.

I've been to Rocinha.

You see something completely different.

There's a trail in Vidigal, awesome.

Yeah, there is. Beautiful. You see something completely different than the one on the track, which is different on the hill. You go up and see, not to mention that the view is wonderful up there. I think it's worth the ride. I think it's a bar, eat, there are a lot of good restaurants in Rio.

Man, Rio is good for you to go, like, you go floating.

Walk through the south zone, you know? Leblon, Ipanema, you see a lot of good restaurants, there are a lot of tasty restaurants.

It's a city that flows a lot. You go to the beach in the morning, then you meet some friends, you say like that, let's go have a drink at that bar there, then you're at the bar drinking, there will be a reservation, a payment, I don't know where, I don't know what, I go home, I take a shower and let's go.

It's very lively, right?

There's samba, samba on the rock of the salt, samba on the rock of the salt.

I've never been, I always talk about it.

Samba wheel on the rock of the salt is also very good. There's a lot of samba circles. They're revitalizing it now. I get indignant. I've been there once, like, 1am,

in the yard, 600 people playing soccer.

I say, what is this, bro?

What a lively city! And the coolest thing is the people that go to the beach, leave the beach and go to work. Like, no, I just came to walk,

I got some sun trained, played soccer, I can't do this when...

There was a day, I don't know if you remember, I think we were getting married to Suzana, and there was a very long break, I think I was on the first scene and on the last one of the day.

Suzana's wedding was at Fluminense.

No, we were getting married to Suzana on the way. Jockey? Jockey, we were at the jockey and recording something I was at the first scene

Oh, I remember, you went out to have a beer

And at the last one, my boyfriend went to get me on the motorcycle I stopped, I recorded what I had to record, took off my clothes I was characterized, I got on I knew he was going to say that. I took a sip, I still got there, I had to wait a long time to record it.

Damn, that's awesome, to give a little experience.

A little roll, you know?

We recorded in a paradise place, bizarre, what Rio offers. Rio, anywhere you look, it's a wonder. Yeah, but Caraca also got mad at this recording. I think it's a great movie. Macaraca was also great. We had a scene at Prainha, have you been there? No. It's beautiful, it's a worth it. It's one of the last ones.

Grumari, Prainha, it's worth it.

Moscow Ballet too.

And everyone with a suitcase.

Fuck, Moscow Ballet.

That day I saw, my God, everything I saw,

that is recorded here and here.

That can not be overlooked. A greeting, Rocinha, we are together. What a sensational.

Unique experience, brother.

Unique.

Speak up, let it go. It's cool. We were welcomed, it was really cool. It was very crazy, I saw things I had never seen before.

The people were really nice to us.

Bro, I saw a macaque nailed to a guy's shoulder.

I said, what is this?

He said, it's a macaque.

I said, what is this?

I swear to God, bro, I swear to God.

That's what we saw.

Yeah, there's this people. But it was really cool. Thank you, Rocinha. We're in this together.

Rio is a whole different case.

Yeah, man.

I love Rio, man.

I like it a lot. You're surprised at every corner, man.

That place is...

F***.

You know that bad, but it's not bad. It's the inevitable bad.

You know that inevitable thing? I don't know if you agree, but welcome to Rio. It's a piece of shit, you'll love it. Welcome to Rio. It's a piece of shit, you'll love it.

Rio has life. I like Rio. I miss Rio de Janeiro.

I was so jealous of her saying, I had a little break, I went down, had an açaí, put on a bikini, and went to bed. In your little break here in the studio, where are you going? I'm going to put a little break, if I say, I'm going to leave, and they say, you're not coming back, because it's traffic.

So you can't leave, you stay here looking at the wall, counting the fork, counting the floor, the light of the bed, it's crazy.

But we love it, right?

Thank God we're working for this.

Congratulations, we got here and saw your structures.

It's really bizarre.

You came from Rio and came here to Podpah?

No, I came here really early.

But you got here today.

No, I'm not even leaving.

She came straight here, just to see you. Get out of here, I'm already getting in the car and we're leaving for Rio de Janeiro.

No, but let me explain to you, because I came early, because I was seeing the outfits, the hair, the makeup, to be here, wonderful, with you.

Thank you.

But once I asked Pedro for sure, which is the best part of São Paulo,

and he said, the way back to Rio.

That's true.

The curve that the plane makes.

When you see the sign, Rio de Janeiro,

to here, São Paulo, you go here.

But we understand. But if São Paulo's producers are slandering São Paulo...

No, they're not slandering. We say what we hear, right, brother?

We love our city.

Say good things about São Paulo. You want, Paulo? Say three good things about São Paulo. Without working...

And that's it.

Brother, the national rap, you know?

Then you said something good. Oh, yeah. I'm not being treated here. I don't speak for the people of São Paulo. One thing you guys teach us, and this is service. São Paulo people give a bath in the... Give a hot bath, sorry. In the Carioca.

In the service.

I think we also...

Andre, I was thinking about it.

The competition is very high. If the guy doesn't serve me well, I'm screwed. I'll go to the restaurant next door. But in Rio you almost say, Bro, please, bro, bring me that service I asked you for. If you can, don't bother me.

But in São Paulo I think that we...

I...

Fuck, it's an exceptional service. But I think we're the ones who are too fast. I think that's it. Fuck, man. I also... Already delivers, already wants to leave the table for another person to enter. Sometimes we go to another...

Everyone is fast, right, bro?

I was deceived.

Sometimes we go to other...

I thought she was really from the heart.

The service is fast, it's because you leave the table, it's for you to leave. That's it.

Let's go to come back, so you'll spend more. Sometimes we're in other states, and we feel the difference in the service, but we look and say, bro, we're the ones who are in a hurry. Let's enjoy this vibe, bro, really. Let him take a while to bring a beer, it's all right.

It's all right, bro. is I'm not a trampoline in São Paulo. It's bad people. They don't have time for you, man.

I understand.

So it's like that. Each one is full of...

Not even you have time for yourself.

Yeah, each one is full of B.O. So, man, you have B.O., ok, but I do too. hospital, you want a hot dog, 3am you'll have it, you want everything You want a chicken salad now, you'll have a chicken

You want a beach, you have an artificial beach, that's not mine

This is a shit

This is a beautiful shit

Shit

This is a beautiful shit

I went, but it was cool, because it's a cool wave, like that, to the couch

Here there's an artificial beach

There's waves

There are waves There are waves It's not a beach, it's an artificial wave

Don't criticize me

No, no, don't criticize me, but I didn't know

Don't judge us, don't judge the spoilers It's crazy, you're in a wave, you look at the building Under the collapsed bridge

That's right I feel like going there

It's cool

Why are you like this? I'm gonna get a lot of money, man. I'm gonna get a lot of money, man. I'm gonna get a lot of money, man. I'm gonna get a lot of money, man. I'm gonna get a lot of money, man.

I'm gonna get a lot of money, man.

I'm gonna get a lot of money, man.

I'm gonna get a lot of money, man. I'm gonna get a in my face, right? You see, when Spavo has a break, it's this subject.

It's not a technical kiss, it's a hot chocolate kiss.

It's Aga with Aga, man.

Do you have any hobbies that people don't imagine you have? Good, good.

We imagine beach, but we imagine chess, bocce.

I saw her doing boxing.

Yeah, I like boxing.

Mel loves cars too. I love cars.

I love it because my car is fast.

I told her I wanted to change cars and she said, take this one because we'll race together.

One week I'll be with you and the other with you. My car is fast.

You like cars?

I like it.

I haven't seen it. But do you like it since forever?

No, I haven't liked it. Naya likes it too. You didn't see it? No. But do you like it since forever, Mel?

No, not since forever. I started liking it out of nowhere. I just don't remember when.

Did you see a movie? Did you see someone get in a car and say, hey, that's cool, huh? I don't remember when I started, but I know I have friends who like it a lot. So I think it could have been that. friends who live, I don't know if you know, Petropolis. I know, I live there. There is the cool car place.

That they go down to those hills with those cars sliding.

There is a crazy crowd.

I want to meet there.

I think that even when we met at Rock in Rio, these girls were there, I said, bro, when my mom is with this little group of hers, you can see that you are like, very comfortable.

Very comfortable, here think you know I'm talking about the girls there.

There are some that are very similar.

It's just that my friends are anonymous. My friends are anonymous.

That's the best thing in the world.

It's the best thing in the world. I'm super comfortable, of course. But I have these friends who live there and they have tuned cars and the door cracks, these things. And they lower the car, I think it's really cool too.

Wow, it's key, it's key.

It's really cool.

And you, Andresinho?

Mine is cars.

Man, I...

You surprised me, right?

No, man.

Fuck.

I love sports, any. I doubt it.

Even I don't know boxing.

My boyfriend is an athlete.

I'm not going to say anything.

She has an episode.

But it's logical.

Are you going to mess with me?

Guys, something completely random. I'm going to cut, but I'll come back. The Buffalo gym in the series is my boyfriend's.

It's all...

It's all in the house, bro.

It's a murder film.

That's why we took the academy, bro. We brought it back home.

Damn, that's cool, bro. When I go to Rio, I'll go train with him.

You can go.

But I'm afraid he'll speed me up.

No, no, he's a dear, no.

But he's going to take a car.

I told you I wanted to train with him for a long time, nothing, bro. It's just rolling, Mel is rolling too. I said, let's train. She makes a barbecue at her house. I said, we do boxing class and a barbecue later at your house. Then I say, agreed, I don't call. It's a joke. It's going to happen. It's hard to happen, you see? You're from Vama and it's not going to happen. It's Carioca, right?

Carioca, yes.

But I'm the same. Carioca is the face of Carioca. Let's go, man. Let's go to the barbecue at home. You don't even know the name of the guy. There's already set. I'm going.

Man, I just won't want to go to Rio.

I'll have to be here.

But I'm talking about how many cariocas, how many people say, let's go?

Let's go!

With everyone, I'll set the barbecue.

The party, the final party of to give at a honey party? Good music, just being with the guys is already cool, but good music, I always put barbecue, drinks, food, a place to sit.

Dude, good music, you need a lot of people And what's up, bro? A positive trip. I'm listening to a cool song, I'm drawing my brother. If you want to learn the column, you can do it. I really like to be dirty, bro. That's why I said somewhere to sit, to be good.

What's your hobby?

To be dirty.

I'm a dirty guy.

I'm really dirty.

I'm 10 out of 10.

I'm sure I was that kid when I looked at my mom and dad, I looked at the hospital and I was like,

what a shit, I'm going to be poor.

You know? Because I love to be embarrassed, Mirth. You like to be in peace, in God's peace. I like the shadow and the fresh water. If there's one thing I like, it's that. We've been there a lot. If it was two years ago, you'd be facing two other guys. It's true.

It's just a moment.

It's just a moment, and these guys change. Now what? Work, São Paulo. Work, health.

Health, no.

Health, you're waiting.

A lot of therapy.

Me, right? A lot of therapy. The doctor too. Therapy, boxing, gym and work.

This is my life. Boxing? Really? He said he was a boxer. I didn't know that. You're going to get me in trouble if you challenge me.

You have to decide. Do you want to hit him or kiss him?

Hit them both.

Both. It's a nice thing.

It's a complete thing.

But what is it? You didn't say your hobby.

Sport. Football, tennis, football. But tennis is what I practiced the most So I can give it a go I like football too I'm afraid of the shoulders I was afraid of tennis It's really cool

I was like, let me do some rackets I said, this is simple The ball came, I sent it to the house

I sent the ball You confused it with baseball.

No, it was horrible.

It's hard, but it's cool. And you, where do you want to challenge? Let's go.

I do swimming. I'm good at it. I like it. Swimming is easy as hell. I'm also in the gym, but swimming... Jump in the pool next to me to see what happens.

It took a while. And we're not going to do any apnea, because I can't stand it.

This is what I train a lot.

We're not going to do apnea, we're going to do something else. We're going to do something else, but forget it.

He's good at apnea.

But you go to the pool, I go to the tennis court. I just admire tennis, but I don't know. It took a long time. The challenge is launched.

And you? What did you say you're good at?

I said boxing. I like boxing. I'm also good at Totó.

Totó is really cool. Did you learn to play at school?

Yes.

Do you know those tricks to hit each other? Yes, in a wheelchair. You know how to do it? I know how to do everything, guys.

Do you have a toto there, guys? No.

You should have.

You know how to do the elastic, right?

There's no ping pong?

Yeah, I do it like this.

I throw it to one, to the other, to the other, I cheat and bam!

You throw that elastic like this?

I'm bad at school. If we had a Totó here, we'd take this one to Viva today, but we'll have to leave it for another day.

Do you play video games?

I do, but I play story games. My favorite game is called The Little Nighmars. What? What game is that?

You don't know it?

The Little Nighmars?

Does anyone know it?

Oh my gosh, does anyone know The Little Marians? No, but people know... No, I don't know.

Let her talk.

No, but it's a horror game, like, a little girl with yellow clothes.

Hey, man, a thing for you to make a movie about The Little Riders.

The Little Nightmares.

And you'll be this little girl.

The Little...

Riders. Delirious. Delirious. I don't know if it's Delirious or just Delirious. Nightmares.

I'm sure.

I've played 1, 2 and 3.

I think I'm connected to Claire.

There's 1, 2 and 3, right?

Let me see.

It's a horror game. It's a story game.

It looks like a co-op game, like two people playing.

No, no, no. It's just one You can play 3 with two people, but 1 and 2 play just one

And you, do you play games, Ana?

Man, I'm not really into video games I like the real life more, but sometimes I play a little

He's like that, sometimes he gets mad

He criticized us, he criticized the gamers is I live life. I told you, I told you. Calm down, bro.

There's only gamers here. I was bad, I missed. But I like FIFA with my friends. I like FIFA. But I'm not good at video games. That's why I'm not...

Dude, it's a history game. It's a race. I'm trying to redeem myself. I'm going to play with the off-duty.

GTA, I didn't get much.

But it's very difficult with the off-duty. I can't aim right in the thing. When I go to see, I'll play online with friends. That's why I don't get involved there. First I die, I'm here, where am I? I'm going to look, I've already been shot, I died, it takes time to come back.

Bro, I played Fortnite, I was humiliated by a kid who turned on the microphone and started to say hello to me. I swear I hung up, like, embarrassed, bro. I said, fuck, I've been good at this thing, a kid.

And then, son of a bitch, bad, bad, Bye, hang up. There's a lot of people addicted to it.

I was already this kid to guarantee myself.

I used to play a lot of Free Fire when I was younger. At the time that...

Cellphones, right?

It was the hype.

Wow, remember? You could only play Free Fire.

You were good at it? No, I'm not. I could only play Free Fire. I used to play a lot of FIFA, I used to play well, but now, if I get it, I won't play anything.

Well, my brother is a bit of a gambler, I play a lot with him.

What, RPG?

No, like a life-long game, I don't know if you've seen it.

No, we're more into real life. You don't play, I don't know.

I like that.

I'm not a life-long gamer, I'm into the street, I'm on the street, I'm on the street, I'm on the street, I'm on the street, I'm on the street, I'm on the street, I'm on the street, I'm on the street, I'm on the street, I'm on the street, I'm on the street, I'm on the street, I'm on the street, I'm on the street, I'm on the street, I'm on the street, I'm on the street, I'm on the street, I'm of laughter. But there's always a fight, right?

My Uno is a giant Uno, so it's funnier.

But Uno is a way to steal, right?

So there's always someone who steals, someone who gets up and says,

son of a bitch, stealing.

Papi-Pow.

I remember you told us about that. That's right, I like to play Papi-Pow.

What the fuck is that? Pop'n'Pole?

I love to play Pop'n'Pole.

André knows how to play.

For 1 million reais. He knows I'm the queen of this game. Do it.

But she comes with the heavy ones.

I'm out of the cameras.

But I'll try to do it. For 1 million reais. You'll get home... You guys are too good, right? 5 million reais. You'll get home, and on the table at your house there's 5 million reais.

Wow, ma'am.

You'd spend a day, you being who you are,

you guys,

the famous ones, a normal day of your life, you having to work, go to the gym, normal da sua vida você tem que trabalhar e pra academia I'm not going to do that. I'm going to do a sparring. You do a sparring?

You do squats every day?

I'm an adult.

It's jabbing, straight jabbing, and whipping.

We are thinking about something... That was good. In this world, you can go to the gym naked. Because today is a crime.

No, no, no. Subjective. You would be immune. I'm not going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it. I'm going to be able to do it.

I'm going to be able to do it.

I'm going to be need to be real. It would be even more bizarre.

What a sad scene, with hard rock and training. Working here, on my side, naked.

You have to be really shy and say,

I'm real, I'm from the streets.

Brother, I'm earning 5 million, you're right.

You're right.

I had to warn everyone.

But even you explain to everyone who is recording you, it will be a shock, imagine. Can I sit with a sign that I'm earning 5 million to do this? Imagine, no one knows, no one can know the truth.

So this is difficult, a whole day. Okay, but I think... Fuck, Mítico, I balanced myself, brother.

But everyone will have the image of you, like, fuck, look at the big nipple training naked.

But I have 5 million and the people don't. And then the ideas. But you would be marked in history as being ugly and... The people at home...

There are people who did worse and it's over.

But you didn't win 5 million.

Everything is over.

Everything is over.

And you? Would you be ugly for 5 million?

No, man.

I wouldn't.

No, wait, with him it has to be like 30 million.

No, man.

With him it has to be like that. You've spent a lot of money on Netflix, brother. Roberta was telling me, -"This boy is worth my coffees." -"No, you're kidding."

-"I don't know how much." -"It's because being naked is awesome."

It was two series.

No, but that one was good.

It was good.

You like to generate this cool debate.

Yeah, I like to make some heavy ones, right, Andre?

Man, I like to do that too. It's what makes you doubt, it's what makes you think, -"Is it? I don't know." -"I don't know, Mythic." Five miles away from your table,

you just have to go naked, and you'll be able to do it.

I don't know if I would, bro.

No.

I'd be jealous of my mom.

One million for each. Now, one million for each.

Okay.

You kiss each other on the tongue.

Now!

Now! Now!

But like a beautiful soap opera kiss.

Oh my God!

A million...

If you say, give me a kiss, a kiss here, I kiss you and I get up.

No, it has to be a beautiful tongue kiss.

I get on his ass and I get up.

But it's my turn too.

Naked.

I'm going to suck your tongue.

You know that kiss that sucks the tongue? You're going to fuck yourself in my hand.

The best in me is naked. Did you see the difference?

You said you'd walk naked, and the guys are like, now they're going to kiss each other.

But I doubt that in practice you would do it.

Wow, like that?

I think because it's a heavy tongue, but I would think, because I was going to say, nothing is going to change, what is going to change is my bank account.

Everyone would know.

People would laugh the next day.

It would be like on a show, me kissing him on the show. But no one would know. We agreed backstage, we said, if you don't hear me today, give me a tongue kiss. If no one says anything, a kiss.

Set up a mood there, six kisses, no one will know, but...

Only we know, you know? What comment, they won't know, they didn't even kiss. Like, we'll set up, we'll say, bro, everyone was talking about your chemistry,

about the kiss, but now I'm going to show that the chemistry is real.

And boom, that's it! That's it, damn it!

He liked it! For me, it's even better. It's even better, because people believe something that's not true and they're going to have fun with it.

And we could become real actors. We're tattooing, guys. With a million in our pockets. Look at what you're doing, look at the debates you're creating. I've already won six million.

I've already won six million.

The thing is, it's just the cuts that will come out later.

But I hope... I got the money, right, bro? I've already got 6 million here. I didn't get anything.

I just kissed your mouth and got naked.

Do you have more?

No, I have a lot, but I really can't do it.

It's because it's hard to talk, right?

No, but when I cut it, I'll do something cool for you.

I'll do the shot.

What shot?

Those things, right?

What? Let's talk about it later. We'll talk about it later. It's almost over, and we'll start to joke about it. But this joke is really good.

It's really good.

Because everyone has their price. There are a lot of things you prefer.

Cutting your hand or your foot.

That's crazy.

But it's better to shave.

It's better to shave. It depends on the money. You'll see how far it goes. I think that each one has their own price. But sometimes you throw a value that the person... She'll say no, no, no.

You throw a value that she says...

Maybe...

Naked is not... We were born naked, right? And the person starts to move a little bit. Is there anything that you wouldn't do for any money? Me? Everyone. From this table. Gamers and people who live on the streets.

Real life, bro. Nothing that... No, crime, these things. Yeah, crime, right?

You can't do crime.

Walking naked? Walking naked is not allowed. Kissing your friend's mouth? The guys who don't live the real life. You have to live, right? I didn't see them in real life, but... It's awesome. Fuck, you guys ruined it for me. No, you ruined it for us.

The gaming community.

The gaming community, we're together.

I really love it. Call me to play a game, we play together. But then we go to real life.

Have you ever been in a gamer's room?

No, but what I really want is to drive those... Formula 1 game cars. Yeah, man.

Very good.

Vigão has that.

You have?

Do you have it at home?

I don't have it, man.

You go there, you get the car, you get the car.

If you say hello, it's over.

You got it in your hand, you pressed it.

Let's go!

Man, I'm Lewis Hamilton in the video game. Oh, my. I'm freaking out. I ran Suzuka yesterday. I told Alex, I even sent it to Alex. I dropped third, I won.

I even sent it to Alex.

I was so happy, Alex, I won!

What, bro? It's a simulation of my life.

Do you like Formula 1?

I started to like it more because of the podcast. We talked to Verstappen and since we talked to Verstappen...

Look at the guys in the interview.

I took a dive... Oh, bro... These guys are so cynical. I gave a dive in the world like that, and I said, I'm going to buy a game, and Will Roberts sent a cock pitch.

What?

I was...

I have good friends.

You know who he is? Max Verstappen who encourages you to buy, Will Roberts who sends everything you want, I don't know what.

You know, man.

Fuck, man. It's a different kind of friendship. It's hard, right? What's hard? It's hard. It's fucking hard.

Did you meet anyone who shook you up at the base? Or did you fight back?

Oh my God.

I saw... I saw... And I was like... Looking... I saw Leonardo DiCaprio.

He always goes... He rocks!

No, man! Where did you see this guy? Tell us.

I'm not even going to say.

No, say it, I'm curious.

He's from Ibiza.

Ibiza? He was wearing a shirt and was in the bar? No, it was at a party and he was there, he was a guest. He's handsome handsome. He's so handsome, and I'm a big fan of him. You see him and you think, that movie he made, and the guy next to me, so chill.

He's DiCaprio.

He's cool, but he's also a fast-paced guy. Then you grab a beer and move on.

And you?

I shook the base.

Yeah, and you're like, no, fuck. Or to meet someone you met that was really cool. Are you a fan of people?

That's funny, right? A fan of people?

No, I'm also kind of like that. Once they asked me that and I said...

Are you a big fan of someone?

I'm a big fan of Racionais Manobral, so... And also a big fan of soccer, so when I saw Ronaldo...

I was in shock.

I was talking about soccer, and when I saw Ronaldo I was in shock He came here too

We talked to him at the World Cup So it's all more... Talking to him like that I was in shock It's awesome

He's a great guy, right?

He has no idea he's him

He's a great guy, that's really cool

There are some people you say

You don't know you're you He's good and you're awesome. There are people you say, you don't know who you are.

He's one of those.

But there's no one you say,

I'm going to act with this person,

I'm nervous. It's worse. I think having this thought doesn't help you. To get nervous?

I don't have anyone I remember.

Otherwise I would say it. It's good. Since you were a girl. was I don't see you wearing a cover of I'm this and that.

I always see you very...

Humble?

No, no.

It's what I am. If I lose this, I think I lose everything I am.

It's your essence, right?

Yes.

If your family touches you, you can't do anything.

My dad is like that. He saw my dad once. People see my dad once.

They fall in love. I think I pulled a lot of that from my dad. Talking to the people. My dad says,

I'm going to go to the beach, I'm going to go to the beach, I'm going to go to the beach,

I'm going to go to the beach, But when it's not Sunday, on Monday he makes barbecue, when no one wants he makes it himself. He's chill. So I think I got a lot of that from my dad. Talking to the crowd, my dad talks to the crowd like this, Hey! Then I say, Hey! I'm a princess, I talk to my dad.

You're the people's girl.

Yeah, I think I'm a lot of that from my dad. He's really nice. He's a nice guy. He's a nice guy. Who said he's a nice guy? He's a nice guy.

He's a nice guy?

He's really short.

Really short.

He's really short, funny, makes jokes.

He's the dad you should see. You should see him or eat him. He makes a lot of jokes. Come here. This is the role of the father. My father is very fatherly. Fatherly, right? Yes, my father is very fatherly.

Does he envy you?

No.

Really?

Really.

Envy of what I say, right?

Totally.

Envy of his daughter here in São Paulo doing this stuff.

Really?

He saw the scene and said,

Hey, man!

This director doesn't have a daughter. That's what a review. He met Andre, he loved Andre.

Oh boy! Oh boy! Oh boy!

Calm down!

Calm down!

My daughter, man!

Wow, this is going to be hard.

It must be complicated.

No, my dad was calm. He just had this reaction.

Oh boy!

Oh boy!

This director doesn't have a daughter, right? And laughs.

But he's not jealous, he's a cool guy. That's good. I guess being a jealous father of a daughter and an actress must be complicated.

No, my parents are cool.

People are starting to understand. And you started when you were 7, right?

Yeah, I'm used to it. I've already seen everything.

Man, this is crazy. You acting, since you were very young. You're still young, right? I black is inspiration. If you see yourself older, more experienced, continuing to act, how old are you?

I think I'm up to...

where it goes.

That's what's cool about acting, you adapt. These days I was thinking I was doing an interview with an athlete. The life of an athlete is a lot of

profession, professional life. It's very limited. professional. Not very professional, but very limited. You go to 40, depending on the sport, and that's it. There are people in our career who are starting at 40. 40 is a high number. And you see Fernanda nowadays, too.

I'm sure that you, at 40, will still be cold in your stomach, feeling, oh my God, what role am I going to play? And at 40, you will still be with that cold in your stomach and feeling My God, this role that I'm going to do and with 60 I'm going to come in

And we will come here to promote

For sure

And we will be here

How old are you guys?

29

I'm 35

No, with Podpah

5 years

5 years, man Cool

It seems to be longer

Do you have that feeling too, that it seems like it's been longer Yes, everyone says that 5 years? It's a lot of things, right? 3 videos per week

It was 7 Tuesday and Thursday were 2 Monday, Tuesday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Thursday, Friday And now it's?

3 per week Mom, there's a few days that you say What's going on? I was going to ask that in the beginning Is there someone really annoying?

Man, stop it

Tell the truth, for God's sake, promise I promise, I promise But is there someone that you've... You must have asked that a lot, but someone really annoying

It's happened

It's happened to someone...

That you had the biggest expectation

No, it's the person being ignorant, like it seemed like she didn't want to be here I'm I said, my God, I want to kill you. How is it that you want to kill me in an interview? It was 20 minutes of talk, I was already in the question about the present. And then today, how is it? I had already asked all the questions. Then I said, wow, I'm going to ... I made up a question, it took about 4 minutes to build it, I delivered, I played. The guy ...

It was complicated.

I did not understand. Yeah, it was complicated. I couldn't take it. But did you feel like it was a person's ignorance?

No, no, it's her way.

It's her way.

And, man, I date you guys.

But if your way is this, it's not good.

But I think that nowadays this doesn't happen anymore. I think it happened a lot in the beginning. And you guys also have a finger for who chooses, right? No, bro. Because I was thinking here, 7 interviews a day. One day you interview Verstappen, the other day you interview Wagner, the other day you interview... I was like, wow, you're getting to know a lot of things, right?

About life. We're getting to know a lot of history, a lot of people,

what she did to be successful.

So it's very cool.

And you guys exploded too, right? We got this information and now you're in São Paulo São Paulo really sends you It's work It's work, bro It's real life, bro

It's real life, bro

I remember you for a long time You have a channel for many years, right?

I have, since 2015

I remember besterol videos, you and me

Yes, yes, yes

Drinking, doing a lot of things, graffiting

Wow, I've been making videos for the internet since 2011.

This guy was the Magneta Fortão, right?

Yeah, it's him.

I would die laughing at you, Cocelo. I used to follow Luba too.

Wow, Luba is wonderful.

Wonderful.

Hi, guys. Hi, guys. Wow, he's so nice. I used to go to LubaTV channel and LubaTV Games. Ted too, I never...

Wonderful.

I never... I remembered him now, never again.

He's living in...

I was going to say, never again, I was going to say.

In Los Angeles, I don't know.

But when I was younger, I was crazy about Ted, Luba, so I watched... How cool! I watched him playing all the games, I play. I think he's gay. I'm so happy for him. Hi guys, I'm at the concert. I have a bandage, it's colorful.

That's so cool, thank you Mel. Really, that's so cool.

Do you have a gift for the people behind?

No, I have a gift.

But it's not just a gift.

Where is it? no You bring a gift. If there's a next time, right? Because we didn't bring a gift. I'll bring a cool board game. No, a video game. A real life game. I'm going to enter this life now, bro.

Please, become a gamer.

I wanted to know if you liked to chat with us.