‘Ann Widdecombe WASN’T The ONLY Name In Killer’s Mind' | Nigel Farage’s SHOCKING Claim

Good morning to the man in the news, Nigel Farage.

Good morning, sir.How are you?Good morning.Well, I'm well, but of course, I'm just reflecting that this time a week ago, this time a week ago, Atwood was on your show just one week ago, and what a desperately, desperately tragic and upsetting event it is.And I can tell you, I've been here for the last few days meeting lots and lots of members of the public, and her murder has really shocked many, many millions of people.

I mean, I get that feeling from doing the show, Nigel, and it is something that goes beyond politics, to be perfectly honest.But there's lots of things that I want to ask you.I don't want to talk about the by -election because that's a separate issue.I want to talk about a woman who By all accounts, to me, was your formidable politician of yesteryear who believed in what she believed.And I thought that one of the greatest things about Ann Widdicombe was when I heard Ian Dale from LBC and from some other... and Andrew Pearse saying, we're in civil partnership.She disagreed, she refused to come to the ceremonies, but she was one of our very best friends.

She was old school, wasn't she?

Oh, totally.I mean, the truth is, she was like a frightening old headmistress at times.You know, when she had an opinion or she disagreed with you, my goodness gracious me, she let you know.And, you know, sometimes I'd answer the phone and I'd get Anne Whittacombe here and I'd sort of have to hold the phone away, you know, because I'd said something she disagreed with.But the fun thing with her was whenever you sat down with her and had a heated debate, you always made sure that the meeting ended cordially.That free speech was about the right to disagree vehemently with each other, but ultimately to respect the right of the other person to have a different point of view.

Which if you think about it, is fundamental to the very principle of democracy.She was formidable in many, many ways.

You know me, I have to ask and want to ask questions.because it's important to me.Overnight, counter -terror police have taken over this investigation.Lawrence Smith, the assistant commissioner, I thought was so erudite in his approach.If only Devon and Somerset police had been the same.He admitted yesterday that the police now know this is a targeted assassination murder, and he implied that there is investigation, Nigel Farrar starting, into whether other reform UK politicians may have been or could be targeted in the same way.

How does that, genuinely as a man, as a father, as a politician, make you feel?

Well, first thing to say is I spoke to the Chief Constable of Devon and Cornwall Police three times.I spoke to the Prime Minister as well.And those calls took place over Friday and Saturday.And they both told me, it's a burglary that's gone wrong.I said, no, it is not a burglar.does not park his car on your drive and walk into the house.

A burglar parks in a lay -by down the road or has a getaway driver.And I went to Dartmoor on Saturday and I said, I have no doubt this is a premeditated murder.I received tons of abuse for saying it, but sadly, it's proved that I'm right.It was obvious.What do we know and what are we allowed to say about the man that is being held under arrest?Well, I have it on very good source.

very good source, that not only was he obsessed with extreme left -wing literature, but that he made regular pronouncements about the people that he hated, and Ham Widdicombe wasn't the only name.So the idea that there are people out there that want to kill us and see reform in particular as the enemy doesn't surprise me at all.But you know, the truth of it is, when you have the Prime Minister in his main conference speechtelling the country over and over that Nigel Farage is racist, a bigot and a bad person, when you have Ed Davey who leads the Lib Dems saying that Nigel Farage and reform are a bigger threat to our nation than Putin or the Chinese, I mean can you see what goes on here?There is a narrative, an establishment narrative, that is trying to demonise reform and its major players.And I'm afraid what that does, it feeds to people who spend their lives online, who perhaps have sad little lives, and they start to believe that all of this is true.

So I have to say, I do point the finger at political leaders I do point the finger at much of mainstream media.They are building up a narrative of total hatred against us.Why?Because we want to bring change to this country and the status quo is doing everything to protect itself.So look, I'm not in the least surprised about these news stories that the threats are much wider than I would have come.Clearly, they are.

I will say one thing that, you know, since 2013, I've had to live with constant security.That's now broadened out to a number of people and I will be in London tomorrow to meet the Home Office Committee that deal with VIP and Royal Protection and really helping them to understand what the threats are.

Read that meeting, Ravik.Again, much written.You'd said, I was offered and I didn't consider it adequate.A journalist, many journalists have said, well, it would be on the same par as Cammy Begnot.We read in the paper this morning, Nigel, it's everywhere.597 death threats in 12 months, 30 this term.

Is it going to be enough or do you find yourself thinking that even the government, I mean, I guess you don't know what they're going to say tomorrow, Are you gonna have...spend the rest of your life because of what you believe with security around you?

So what happened was, I was provided with a big security thing, much bigger security than they can be back home.Do you know why?Because I go out around the country and walk down high streets.I go and mix in public events.I'm surrounded by hundreds of people.I can't do that with a driver and one officer.

I have to have people that go ahead, start out the environment.So I need more people because of my constant interaction with huge numbers of the public.And what happened last year was, they cut that by 75 % to the level that I simply could not have continued to operate the way that I was.And that really is part of the thinking.behind the big gift that I got from Christopher Harbour.Look, here's the money.

It's unconditional.But I understand that you're going to need this for the rest of your life, because you can never trust the state to look after you.And, you know, I know that people criticize me and I'm sort of demonized over the money.But I would just say this to you.I've broken no law.I've broken no tax law.

I haven't misused a penny of public money.I've claimed zero personal expenses as an MP.first two years.And if Ann Widdicombe's death doesn't convince my critics that I need to look after myself the rest of my life, then frankly nothing will.

In terms of that, and I get that, in terms of that, do you ever, I started it with this question, I want to ask it again, Despite the Christopher Harbourn gift and the ferrari over that and the pylon and the fact that you've got to face the Standards Committee if you're re -elected and then, you know, I've had arguments on this show, it's made up of six people, four Labour, one Tory, one Liberal Democrat, they're going to wait 12 months.I've heard all the arguments, I've heard that you should have declared it.That's, to me, a separate issue.Is there no point at whichNigel Farage, father, mate, man, whatever, goes, I don't need this.I don't want to be looking over my shoulder.

I asked this of Richard Tice, and he said to me, it beats so strongly in my heart, Jez, and the more barriers I get put in front makes me realise that I am actually knocking on the right door here.

Oh, yes.I would agree with that sentiment from Richard entirely.All I would say, all I would say, is when the Times of London newspaper chose to publish where my daughter lives then this took on a very different turn and I have to say I think my family have been more split over this in the last week than anything I've gone through in three decades of politics and mainstream media now trying to hound your families and I think the whole thing has gone way way too far.Do your family want you to walk away Nigel?I think I've given you a hint of what's happened over the course of the last week and things are very difficult indeed.

Reform MPs we hear are now being given 24 -hour security round the clock.Presumably Reform as a party has to pay for that.Is there an argument that says that central government should be sustaining that expenditure going forward?

Yes, we as a party have covered the cost looking after many of our senior people but I think there is an argument that members of Parliament who have a high profile, members of Parliament that stand up on certain issues that attract hatred.I think the state needs to help with this and play a role too, and that's exactly the argument I'll make to the RABEC committee in the Home Office tomorrow.

I try and put all sides.Some journalists, quite a few, are saying that reform in its entirety, certain members of reform haveused this tragedy to shut down the debate about the donation you touched upon from Christopher Harbourn.They repeat texts and tweets and stuff like that.How would you answer that to your critics in the media who say, no, no, this has fallen, I mean, I have my opinion, I'll keep quiet, this has fallen perfectly and absolutely Reform are going to use this to deflect.

Anne Widdicombe was murdered.Murdered.The most high -profile murder in Britain for many, many decades.And we'll find out as time goes on she was murdered because she supported the reform agenda.And if you wish to continue to argue against me, well, I'm sorry, that's the end of the debate.Her murder proves the great danger that I'm in and other senior reform politicians.

And it's about time.They put aside their prejudices and realised that if we go on like this, we're going to finish up with nobody of any talent, any ability or any different thinking.coming into politics and that would be a disaster for our country and a disaster for democracy.

And that's why you talked about the establishment, the anti -change rhetoric, the left -wing words.What you're saying is, whether I'm elected as Prime Minister or a reform doesn't win any seats, the fact that we're talking differently to the established parties, to the established rhetoric, has stirred up so many people.

Yeah, absolutely.You know, I mean, we have literally had, I didn't used to like this word, but we've had a uniparty in government for many, many years.They've all done the same thing.They've cut our defences.They've opened our borders.They've emptied our prisons.

They've seen law and order decline on the streets.They've gone all crazy, net zero agendas.You know, whether we've had Conservative or Labour government, the results have been the same.The point about reform is we'rearguing Britain is broken and needs fundamental and radical change.And we should be allowed to make that argument and let your viewers and listeners make their minds up whether they want it or not.

And we should be able to do that without fearing for our lives.

You know the number of texts that I've received during this interview, and so many of them are saying the same thing, which is, you know, I don't have a question for Nigel.I'll always support him.I wanted an opportunity to express my heartfelt condolences for your family.But I have to repeat a question because I've had 25 in the last five minutes.How much pressure have your family put on you to walk away, Nigel?

It's not been the easiest time.OK, listen.And that's a very diplomatic answer from somebody who normally answers questions straight.

I was going to say, what happened there?

But I do that because At no point in 30 years have I ever involved my family, any members of my family, in anything that I do.I've never had pictures of my kids or grandkids on election literature.I've always thought they deserve to be kept separate from all of this.And you know, back in 2012, when we had the Leveson inquiry into the relationship between the media and public figures, the one part of it that I really agreed with is that families should be kept out of it and I'm afraid the Times and Sky News and others have broken that and that has made me very, very angry indeed.

We as ever appreciate the honesty.Just before we go, that's obviously all about Anne Widdicombe's horrific murder and we will Follow that story and follow the ups and downs and I said at the beginning and I'll say it again Nigel, I think anybody who enters public life should be able to do so.I think we should be in a society where you can stand full in the face of somebody who disagreed for the rest of your life and then go away and have a glass of beer or a glass of wine or whatever but we haven't got to that because it's become hateful.And I have to say, actually, we hear a lot about, you know, the far right and how bad...The activists on the left are frightening in many, many ways.However, to make you smile to finish, World Cup tonight, Nigel Farage.

Have you got the Union Jack socks on?

No, but I do have a Cross of St George waistcoat that I should be wearing tonight in one of the local pubs here.Don't worry about that, I've no doubt.that it'll get covered in beer by the end of it, but I should be sporting it and wearing it.I don't know, Jeremy.I put our chances of winning at about 40%.I'm just underplaying.

I'm underplaying expectations.I think that's not a bad thing to do.A lot will depend tonight on refereeing decisions, and it would appear thus far in this World Cup Many referees have been much on the side of Argentina.Let's hope tonight's game is fair and square.I would love us to win.I'm not getting overexcited.

And look, we've got two world -class players, haven't we?I mean, you know, Bellingham is clearly one of the great players of this tournament.Kane, a phenomenon.But the one that I'm going to be watching tonight is Morgan.I think Morgan in the last two games has just somehow had more time with the ball on the wing and he's positioned the ball beautifully for some of the goals we've scored.I think Morgan will be a key, key, key player tonight.

I have to say one thing.I mean, we've beaten the Argies before.Have you seen that meme?It's got Harry Kane shaking Lionel Messi's hand and the referee is Margaret Thatcher.Have you seen it?I have.

I love it.I love it.I love the sense of humour.And tonight it's about football, not the Falkland Islands.

Yeah.And remember, if your television cuts out, there's only one place to listen and that's Talk Sport.Nigel Farage We thank you for coming on.