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Where are we talking to you from?

I'm home.

I'm home and I'm in a hallway.

Okay, perfect.

Yeah.

It's really good to see you and I know you're doing press. Today's a very special day because we have really our most requested guest coming on today. Like it's, you know, people have really, really wanted to hear from and hear me and Aubrey talk about a lot of things and I'm just so psyched she's here.

She might be the most like unanimously loved person ever. Like, even like my dad's really not like, you know, he's like barely has a phone. He doesn't have a TV. But like when I, when he found out I was doing a movie with Aubrey, he was like, oh, I love her. Like, man, she's so funny. Like he's so he was so excited.

Like she reached my dad.

She's got the dads.

But she's got everybody.

Yeah.

I just love her. I just think she's the best.

You know, it's so funny you say that too, because I was thinking, she's also, kids really like Aubrey because she acts like a cat, right? So like, dogs come and greet you at the door, but cats just kind of chill and wait for you to come to them. And kids really like that. She never, you know, I remember

my boys on the set of Parks and she would just like walk by and say something to them like on the way past them and they'd be like, who was that?

I'd also imagine that she'd like talk to a kid like an adult. Yes. You know? Like just meet them where they are. Like it's rough out there, right?

Like yeah.

Totally.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She's really, as the people like to say, she appeals to four quadrants. Yeah. And you guys have worked together.

Is this the, is Honey Don't, which is the film that you're, you both are in, that you're the star of. Congratulations coming out very soon. It looks so great and is this the first time you've worked together the two of you?

Yeah, we met on set. I've been such a big fan of hers for such a long time and I think Parks and Rec was probably my intro to her which is just like one of the best shows of all time and you guys together are so special. But I've like felt like I think she has that quality where you feel like you know her even when you don't. So like I already loved her so much even before meeting her and I would have been so bummed if she didn't like me.

I'm projecting on this on you so I don't tell me if I'm getting it wrong, but you both to me seem like, you know, in some ways introverted artists in an extroverted business. Do you relate to that?

Definitely. Yeah. I mean, it's like, you know, the classic case of, uh, look at me, don't look at me.

Yeah, right. Everybody pay attention.

Like, what are you looking at?

I want to show you something.

Stop.

What?

What?

Don't be alone.

So what was it like working together on set for, for, for those that don't know you guys are, what is your dynamic in the film? And then what was it like working together on set? For those that don't know, you guys are, what is your dynamic in the film and then what was it like working together?

Dynamic in the film is I play this like suave detective and she plays this like cool cop and we kind of hit it off right away and it kind of feels like we've like met our match. Like I usually as met our match like I Usually as a character feel like I'm in the power seat and when I come across Aubrey's character

That's really challenged and I think she actually is in the power seat And on set it's a really fun set. It's Ethan Cohn and Trisha cooks movie and they're just great. And like, they're at once, you know, super accomplished and like these like great artists, but really don't take themselves seriously. So it's like a, it's a silly, laid back, goofy, fun vibe there. But you know, Aubrey, I think in order for

somebody to come across, there's a lot to be so effortless, take some effort, you know, and she's like, she cares, like in the best way. She's like, she cares, like in the best way. She's thoughtful and considerate and brought so much depth to her character. And it was, you know, just like kind of consistently surprising everyone with just, you know, her, the thing that she does.

I think you bring up a really good point, which is, you know, she's, she started out anyway especially on Parks and Rec playing like a very disaffected character, but the secret to that character and Aubrey is that she cares very deeply. Yeah. And, um, I think people like project on her that she's Indifferent and she's definitely not no no

I was wondering if you had a question you thought I should ask Aubrey on This day that you'd be curious to know about or like you want any topic you think we should cover I don't know why the first thing that came into my mind was the Salem witch trials. Was she in them? Is that the question? Probably, you know? Well yeah, what was it like being in the Salem witch trials?

Margaret, we love you. I would love to get you in the stewed.

Anytime. I'd be lucky.

Aw, buddy. And I know Plaza will be so happy that you did this and surprised and happy that you did it. And also, I know that you and many people in her life have been real big supports and a real circle of love during very tough times. So on behalf of her, I'm gonna say thank you. And it's so good to talk to you.

The easiest to love.

Indeed. Thank you for having me.

Great to see you, Ketie Pie.

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And I'll take them off if you want.

Well, I do because they know. We'll put them on again. Let me see. I mean, they look very cool.

Frankie, what are you doing? That's so creepy. Plazi's here and her sweet dog Frankie is here too. When you wear the glasses, you do look very Howard Stern. It's because my hair too.

Yeah.

Right now, it's like.

I mean, it makes you look cool,

but as an interviewer, I don't love it.

Oh God.

Sorry.

Your doggie Frankie is here with you too. Yes.

Tell us about Frankie.

Okay, have we started?

Yeah, we started.

Oh.

And just like that. Frankie is my dog. Her name is Frances Fox. She's named after Judy Garland. That's Judy Garland's real name. She's a good dog. She's named after Judy Garland. That's Judy Garland's real name.

She's a good dog.

She's a good dog. She got a little sick this morning. That's why I brought her. I'm not I'm not I'm not like a bring my dog to work kind of person. Yeah.

So much.

But she ever bring her on set for anything.

Do you know.

But she's really like with you a lot. She is now. Yeah. This is a recent this year recent kind of thing. Yeah. She's like she's like she's like a therapy dog. Oh yes. In many ways and has always been for you but it's really been. Yeah. She is. She's always been like that. Well I mean to just to get it out of the way people want to see you I want to see how you are. They love you. I know. They love you and they want to see you.

So you've had this terrible, terrible, tragic year. You lost your husband. You've been dealing with that and you've been looking for all different ways in which to feel and find support. And I think I would, on behalf of all the people who feel like they know you and the people who do know you, how are you feeling today?

I'm I mean right in this very, very present moment I feel happy I'm here and I'm functioning and I feel, you know, like I feel really grateful to be moving through the world. I think like I'm okay. But you know, it's like a daily struggle, obviously. This is like a really dumb analogy, but it was kind of a joke at a certain struggle, obviously. This is like a really dumb analogy, but it was kind of a joke at a certain point,

but I actually mean it. Did you see that movie, The Gorge?

No. Okay.

Horror movie? It's like a alien movie or something with like Miles Teller. But it's like in the movie, there's like a cliff on one side and then there's like a cliff on the other side and then there's like gorge in between and it's like filled with

all these like monster people that are trying to get them. And like I swear when I watched it, I was like, that is like feels like what my grief is like, where it's like, or what grief could be like, where it's like, at all times, there's like a giant like ocean of just awfulness that's like right there and I can like see it. And like sometimes I just want to like just dive into it and just like be in it. And then sometimes I just like look at it.

And then sometimes I'm like, I just try to get away from it, but it's always there.

It's just always there.

And the monster people are trying to get me like Miles Teller.

Yeah.

And Anya Taylor-Joy. Yeah. Who, Anya Taylor-Joy, to me, is the example of like, the more beautiful you are, the more

spaced out your eyes are.

Yes.

And Rihanna, and that's how she says it, guys. What? Rihanna.

Yeah, Rihanna.

No.

Yes, check out the clips.

Not saying it ever. Well, Rihanna is so beautiful, and her eyes are truly on the side of her head. Yeah, just like a horse. And yes, and Ania. That's why horses are so beautiful.

Well, I feel, here's how I feel about horses. I feel like horses are fine.

You hate them.

I don't hate them. I don't hate them.

Let's talk about animals.

I would love to talk about animals.

No.

No, because I feel, I feel like I, I think horses are beautiful and they're a little bit scary to me and I respect them but I don't really wanna be near them. And that's not how you feel about Rihanna? No, I'd love to truly be in a stall with Rihanna and feed her a sugar cube if she let me.

I wanna talk to you about many things today. Okay. Okay, but the first person I want to talk to is Little Baby Plaza. No. Why? Okay. No, I don't need you to act like a baby. Oh, okay. I just mean I want to talk. We're going to do role play. We're going to do real intense role play. No, no, no, no, no. I'm going to have a bunch of hats. No! Okay. No but because I love Little

Young Plaza and I feel like a lot of people don't I think a lot of people are like Little Young Plaza out there and they see themselves in you but can you explain what kind of kid you were? Oh okay. I was, I mean, I think before, I would say like before seven, I think I was like pretty shy like I was kind of like a quiet, like lanky kind of, I don't know, freakish kind of kid maybe. Really thin hair. Like my ponytail was like, looked like this.

Just like one little strand basically. I would try to have ponytails. Your hair looks really good right now. It's got thicker. You don't have any pieces in?

No.

Shit.

It's thicker as I get older.

It's gotten really thick.

Tina Fey, watch out bitch.

Watch out bitch.

Watch out, bitch. Watch out, bitch. Watch out, I'm coming for you. She's gonna brush that hair like a real brush.

Tina Fey.

Nobody's gonna beat Tina's hair. Nobody.

Watch me.

Sorry, babe.

Watch me.

My money's on Tina. I've seen that hair. It's incredible.

Watch me.

I was definitely around a lot of people, like, hectic kind of, you know, childhood, I think. So, like, I was a very, I was like, definitely an observer, but like, definitely living in my imagination. Like, I could just imagine things all day long. Where did you grow up? Grew up in Delaware, Wilmington, Delaware. Yeah.

Ever heard of it?

Nope. Never been.

Never heard of it. Joe Biden, the land of Joe Biden. Joe Biden, Who we met.

Yeah.

Who we met. Oh, you've met many times.

Oh, yeah.

But you know, for people, fast forward to when we were in parks, we got to go when President Biden was in Vice President Biden, we got to go to a scene with him. I'll never forget it. And it was pretty exciting. It was super, super fun. And I've told this story before, but Aubrey stole something from his desk. Yeah, I did.

I stole, there was, we were getting a tour of his office and of the White House, right? And I saw a little like vice president monogrammed notebook piece of paper that said like Aubrey Plaza and then like three facts about me, like Wilmington, Ursuline Academy, we met blah blah blah because that's what the politicians all do they get their little and then you're like oh my god how did he remember you know and I'd swiped it and Mike Schur was like you cannot steal something do you think and I was like oh shut up Mike and he was like we're

literally in the White House and I was like we are

And you didn't get in trouble you know, no one ever know no one knew I am kind of surprised that there's no like

Alarm system. There's nothing in there. It's like a house of it is cars weird How janky the White House actually is it is janky as fuck? I didn't see any cameras and it is like it's like SNL like you go in there. You're like, this is the White House actually is. It's janky as fuck. It is janky as fuck. I didn't see any cameras. And it is like, it's like SNL, like you go in there, you're like, this is the White House? I know. Like, this place sucks. You're like, that pillow's disgusting. It's like a hotel room used for a million years. I know. It is bad. It's weird. But you know, now it's gonna be big and beautiful. It's gonna be gorgeous now. Okay, so then you're in Delaware. What kind of shows did you do as a little kid? Like what were your parts that you got to sink into?

Baby Plaza Theater was the Wilmington Drama League. I went there, my older cousin was doing The Crucible. And I remember just watching and being like, oh my God, this is so cool. And then I auditioned, I think the first thing, oh yeah, the first thing I got was Hansel and Gretel.

You played?

Chorus, tree. Tree number four maybe. No small trees. Yeah, actually, yeah. I was actually, fun fact, I got my period on stage at the Dramalee. You used that, you just used it.

Yeah.

I'm going to use this.

I went, I started bleeding and then my cousin took me in the bathroom. I was like, what's happening? She was like, I'm bleeding. Then I was like, get on out there, the show must go on and then I did. You felt totally different.

You're like, my G is a woman now. Yeah. Yeah. It was awesome. That's exciting. I was mainly in the chorus a lot. I always wanted to be, you know, like Annie or whatever. But the big part that I got that like kind of changed things for me was I got the ugly

stepsister in Cinderella. And I really wanted to be Cinderella like all everybody. And then they were like, ugly stepsister. And I was like, damn it.

Because they know that's the better part.

It was the better part. Yeah. And it taught me, like I brought down the house with my song and it taught me like comedy is where it's at. I was like, I'm getting all the laughs. I was like, Cinderella sucks. memory that I have is like when you get your first laugh that you mean to get like people laugh at you but when you get a laugh that you mean to get it's

like becoming a vampire yeah like you're like yeah I'm fully realized yeah all the power yeah I can do anything it's the best feeling yeah okay then you graduate you go to NYU then I graduated then I went to NYU so do you remember like up like arriving in New York City and what that was like? It was crazy, yeah. I was like, I mean, I was so ready to go to New York, mainly because of UCB.

Which is, people listening, is a sketch, an improv theater that myself and Matt Besser, Ian Roberts, Matt Walsh started in 90, we moved to the city in 96.

96.

And you were arriving when? I came to the city in 2002. But like growing up, I knew about UCB before, you know, I went to New York and like.

How did you know about it?

Just curious. Neil Casey. I mean, we, Neil was one of my best friends growing up is still one of my best friends He was a bit older than me and he was really into comedy. He showed me like mr Show and kids in the hall and like we got really into and obviously Saturday Night Live was like really big for me Growing up too. So like we just yeah

we were like super big comedy nerds and part of the reason I wanted to go to NYU and go to New York is to take classes at UCB. So that was like I was like ready I was like studying in didn't taking classes at the same time you were doing both. Yeah, I started doing it like immediately Where were you majoring in at NYU? I don't think I majored in film Like directing and writing more than almost almost anyone I know love studying, watching, and talking about movies. You love movies. I love movies. All I need is movies.

I don't need anything else or anyone else. But movies, um, what do you do with your phone when you're watching a movie? Are you able to fully... you are. I am. I am. And I'm not just saying that. I think I am. I'm also really not good at technology. I'm like a real boomer-like person when it comes to that. When it comes to technology, I have a memory that you've taught me many lessons. But I remember one time I was texting on the set of Parks

to someone who was bothering me or like asking something from me. I forget what the situation was. And I was like composing this really long text and you grabbed my phone and you just type no. And you sent it to me.

Really?

You don't remember that?

No, I don't remember anything. And it was, it was very illuminating because it was just basically like, it really, underneath it was like, first of all, don't be beholden to your phone. Yeah. Life is happening around you.

And also, you don't owe anybody any long explanation. Wow. I know. Do you remember that? No. I feel like that's something you would do to me.

I feel like you taught me how to say no. Well maybe I taught it and then forgot it. Damn. And then you did it back to me. Wow. Karate Kid style. Okay so then you go to New York. Where do you live when you're in the dorms? I go to New York. My parents dropped me off on 3rd Avenue and 11th

Street. Oh my god I used to live right around there near Webster Hall. Yeah I lived right on I lived in the 3rd North dorms and then I ended up moving I got out of the dorms earlier than you're like technically allowed to because there was like a mice issue. And so. There were too many mice in the and they were like you have to leave like the mice took

over. The mice took over to the point where I will never forget I was on the top bunk. And I was being very quiet because I was like reading a book or something and like nobody

else was in.

You were as quiet as a mouse

I was as quiet as a mouse And I literally was just like reading for like I don't know maybe 20 minutes or something and all of a sudden there was a Thanksgiving Day parade of mice They were like having trumpets they were like And they all just started parading back and forth like selling things and it was like a flea market They came out and they were like it was insane

Like I was like and I was like I couldn't on your floor on the ground like in our clothes Like in our it was like a messy room, too So it was like they were just like like they had like we're wearing my clothes They were like running around dancing Like they were like those Richard Scarry books, remember those things where it was like, they

were building, they were in little cars, they were driving a hotdog car.

Yes, it was insane. And I was screaming, I was like, this is fucking disgusting. And NYU was like, you gotta get out.

Yeah.

They were like, be quiet and get out. So I got out and then I moved right down the block to second and 11th. I got in with these older musical theater girls that took me in. And then I lived there for a couple years.

And then you studied at UCB. And then a lot of people don't know that you, well, I mean, I think some people know because you talked about it on SNL, but then you got an internship at SNL Oh, yes. How did you get that? I

So I faxed my resume Remember that that's amazing. Where are you looking? I'm looking at my facts. I imagined I'm looking I'm checking to see if I got any other faxes.

Hello?

Yeah, I faxed my resume to every department. Because there was just like a number, there was like a paper on some wall at NYU that had like all the department numbers. It was like 212-667-212-664.

Like, or 664, whatever. It wasn't 664. numbers it was like 212-667-212-664.

Or 664 or whatever.

It was 664.

Remember 212? Oh yeah.

I still have a 212 number.

I'm so jealous. I wish I had that.

I still have a landline.

That's nice. But yeah, I faxed my resume to every department and I didn't get anything. And then on a Friday night, on the week of the 2005 season, I got a call from the design department and they were like, we got your resume, like we need someone, like can you come interview? And it was Regina DiCicco, if you remember Regina.

And I was like, yeah, I'm available. It was like Friday at like, I want to say like 4 p.m. or 5 p.m. or something. She's like, how about right now? And I was like, okay. And so then I like went up to 30 Rock,

like immediately saw Ben Affleck.

Sure, just there.

Who was like, I guess he was hosting that episode. I just like, remember how crazy it was just walking in for the first time, because I was just interviewing. So I was like, I didn't know what was going on, but it was a Friday night. So I guess they were rehearsing, blocking or whatever, rehearsing. And they had they had fired.

The design department only ever had one intern. Couldn't cut it. Yeah, mainly because he wanted to be in design. And they were like, you, yeah, you can't. No. He was like, so the blueprints of the, and they were like, get the fuck out of here.

Literally.

They were like, fuck off. And he was like, and then I came in and they were like, do you care about design? And I was like, do you care about design? And I was like, no. And they were like, can you start now? And I was like, yeah. What is the design part of SNL for people they don't know? Like, what does the design do? Because it's a very important part of the show.

There's, you have to imagine the sets have to be built somehow. And very fast. Because basically, as you know, on Tuesday nights, the writing night and then Wednesday night is when all the sketches get chosen. And so there's really only Wednesday to Saturday and then they have to like figure out all the sets in between. I remember what I had to do was like once the I was there all Wednesday night, like until three in the morning or whatever.

And then once the sketches were picked, I would be like, go in the filing cabinet, literally in the filing cabinet, and find restaurant number 72 or something. And then I would sift through and find these blueprints, I guess, for whatever. And then I would just watch them,

and they would draw stuff, and that's it. And then the other job I had was to take continuity photos. And that was cool, because you guys would be rehearsing and I'd be like, and everyone thought I worked there. I had a camera around, whatever, and I just was like very quiet and just kind of like

taking pictures of the sets, of the plants, of the things. I mean, it blows my mind, Plosy, that we were sharing. I mean- You were sharing. I mean, you were there. I stalked you. I think now about the people that are crossing our lives right now that are like in our proximity that we don't know yet. It's really cool that we were in the same physical space.

I know. It's so crazy. It still blows my mind. And then you were giving tours and- I was giving tours, yeah. And a lot of people know that you just gave, you just made stuff up. I did, yeah. I got fired. I didn't get fired, but I got pretty much encouraged to leave.

Pretty quickly. What were some things you would make up? Do you remember? I mean, I don't know like specific thing. I feel like there was one thing. This is when I was a page. Like there was one speech I had to give about like, I guess it was like Conan's studio or something. That studio and it was like very cold.

And it was, there was just like weird facts where they'd be like, does anyone, you know, know why it's so cold in the studio? And people would be like, why is it so cold? Because of the lights. And I'd be like, no, because in 1956,

they had penguins on the show and the penguins needed to be cold so they wouldn't die. And they forgot to turn the heat down after that. So it's been cold since like 1956 and people would be like, well, that's interesting. Okay, then you get your,

like doing comedy doing shows and we meet not on SNL even though we're in the same building but we meet on the set of Parks and Rec and for people that don't know like you had a crazy week when you got hired. You got like three jobs that same week. What happened that week you were hired on Parks? So I basically, I was like trying to get a part

in Funny People, the Judd Apatow movie with Seth Rogen and Adam Sandler. And I went through kind of this whole vetting process in New York and then enough where Alison Jones who cast that movie and Parks and Rec Was called me and was like, all right, like you made it to the chemistry read stage So we have to come out to LA and read with Seth and see if you get the part basically

Um, and so but I didn't really have an agent or anything and I kind of had to like pay my way You know to go out there. So it was like a little bit janky, but I got myself out there to do that. Then while I was out in LA for that week to do the funny people thing, Allison was like, how would I send you on some other things? How do you feel about that? So one of them was, she wanted me to go meet Mike Schur and Greg Daniels,

who at the time were shooting on the office, and they were shooting—they were on the set of The Office. So she sent me to the set of The Office. And I didn't even—I guess at that time I didn't realize, like, I didn't think, like, oh, I could—these meetings will get me a job. I didn't understand. I think it's one of the things about being young that's kind of nice is you're not really aware what you're actually, like what's at stake. No.

And that's good. Definitely not that. I mean if it was an audition obviously I know like, alright I'm gonna get the part or not. But like general meetings I didn't really get the vibe of that. How old were you then? I was 24, 23?

23 maybe? three maybe. But so then I went to the set of The Office and I was so starstruck. I see in my horse eye BJ Novak and Mindy Kaling walk by and I was like, oh my god, I was like they're in the show or whatever. And Mike Schur is like, hello. And he's like at his desk like, and I'm like, what? And then I just met him for like, he describes it, he really embellishes this story, I think.

He loves this story.

He loves it, but he's like, and then I met the weirdest person on earth.

I'm like-

There's no bigger fan of Aubrey Plaza than Mike Schur.

Yeah, right. He loves it though. Because I think like, I mean, it just speaks to, honestly, the fact that you've always been yourself, confidently yourself, and you don't have a vibe of like, you are the opposite of a pick-me,

as the kids would say.

Yeah. Like you do not have that vibe. No. And that draws people in. And I think he was like, who is this person? Yeah.

Who seems mad at me while I try I tried to give her a job. Yeah, literally. And why are you wearing jean shorts in a general meeting? Like ripped jean shorts. And you're like, I didn't know what this was. No.

And then I got a phone call and they were like, you're on a TV

show.

I'm like, what? No. But then... Which one? I know! What, you're like, the office? Yeah! I literally probably said that. I didn't know what was going on. And then they were like, um, actually, you got the part, but actually, you have to audition to play yourself.

You don't have to name names, but I wonder who else was up to play you. I don't think that anyone. Oh, right. It was just one person. I think they just made me do it, like, for the network or something. I think I found out later. I mean, maybe not. I don't know. It's probably like, you know. Yeah. It was you, Sharon Stone, and Gina Gershon.

Yeah. So you get the part. We're on the set. And then, like, I mean, we could do a whole— obviously, we could do a best thing about our relationship, I feel like, is I don't, like, a lot of, I think, long-lasting relationships is you don't always, like, remember how you met.

Like, I just remember, like, just, I just have this vision of you being next to me on the set of that show, And me being like, welcome! Like, you know, Leslie was supposed to be like welcoming April, and April was supposed to be like, what am I doing here? And Amy was welcoming Aubrey, and Aubrey was like, what am I doing here?

Truly, yeah. I mean, I remember when we first met, and I think I told you this story, It was the promos that we shot. That's right. And which was weird because we hadn't shot the show yet. And the rest of the cast hadn't even been cast yet.

I think at that point it was just like Aziz, me, you, maybe another, Rashida. I don't think we had Nick yet. I don't think so. But they had me and I was there, like physically there. So they shot this promo of us on a swing set. And that's when I met you like officially for the first time. And I think I was literally on a swing like a child.

And I was like, hey! And I was like, just don't make any sudden movements. Except swinging. Except swinging. Except swinging. And then you, which is kind of good because swinging is really good somatically for me. But then yeah, you came over and we were both just swinging like little babies.

That's how we met. On a swing. We met on a playground, which is kind of nice. Really nice. And it feels like the show was that. Like it was, it felt like a true like play ground space. It really

was. Like we I mean I loved and love working with you. I love playing with you. I love acting with you. I love you as an actor. I love you as a person. I love your acting Plozzi. You know how good I think you are. I love playing with you. And I feel like our dynamic or like the the arc of, in many ways, like April had the biggest growth in the show. She goes from truly not wanting to be where she is to like, you know, ending the show

like with some kind of purpose and a love in her life and like some, also like a, she kind of stands up for what she doesn't want to do, which is a big part of your 20s. But when you started that character, when you started her, did you have any idea where you thought it would go?

Did you have any, you know, did you see? No. Yeah. No, I just, no, I think I just, once I realized like, oh, what's so fun about this character is that like, it's a game of not showing anyone that I really care.

Yes. And like, once I've locked into that, it was real, like, it felt like there was no limit to like the growth or like what could happen because if you hint that there's something else going on, it's like you can kind of play with that and also in different ways with every different character.

So I feel like maybe on an unconscious level, but I felt like, oh, there's so much to play with even though it feels really subtle and simple.

Yeah, that was her secret, is she cared, but she pretended she didn't.

And so when it would pop out, it was so satisfying.

Yeah.

It was so funny and good. And the ways in which she tried to keep those things hidden were so funny.

Yeah.

And then I think just the Andy April thing was such an organic, like I had no idea that was going to become a thing until that one episode. So let's talk about that. So Andy played by Chris Pratt and you, April and Andy had an episode where a bunch of us were off like doing the like a harvest.

We're at the harvest festival.

We're at some festival.

I don't know where you guys were.

We were doing something together.

Yeah. Or you were like camping or something.

Oh yeah, maybe. Oh yeah.

We were like cabins. It was the camping episode. I don't know. And so they put you guys in the office and just said like, let's see what happens to these two characters when they hang out. Yeah. characters had was the building block for why they eventually became like the real romantic

love story of the show other than Leslie and Anne.

Yeah.

Because Anne doesn't deserve... Don't talk about Anne like that. But what do you remember of that day? I have a bit... Well Greg Daniels directed the episode which I will always remember because he was so delighted. He had such a little kid energy and he was so, he just was very willing to like, let's

just try things. And we had a whole day where we were just playing. It was kind of like what you said, like the office, like the bull room or bullpen, what do we call it? The bullpen. The bullpen.

The bullpen. The bullpen, like, became a playground. And I just remember, I have an image of like us sitting under the table. We were like under that main table for a while. Like, I don't even know what we were doing down there. But we were under there. And I just remember, I don't know, it just felt it was so fun. It just felt like I remember before then there was I think it was like the finale of the maybe the first season.

I don't remember what season but there was a very subtle moment where we're all in a group. We're in a circle and. And he's like saying something about his band or he's like something about like I I think like this band name is cool or whatever. And everyone else was like, no. And April's and I was just like, I like it. And it was like an improvised thing. But I, do you remember that?

Where I remember being like, and then I remember like knocking on Mike Schur's like door and being like, listen, I was like, April loves Andy. And April thinks Andy's cool because he's so not cool that he's cool. Do you understand?" And Mike was like, get out of here! And I was like, you better listen to me. Wow, you did. You knocked on his door. It was more like just a little

conversation. It was like a layer to that character because you become his advocate and that's the part of April that is another interesting layer, is again, she acts like nothing matters, and she's completely disaffected, but she's actually very fiercely loyal, and sticks up for people she believes in,

which I think is a character trait of you too, Plozzy. You're a very loyal friend. You're a really, really protective friend. And you really stick up for people who you love. And that side of it was so great because then we got to see her manage him, care about the band, see potential for him that he didn't see in himself. And he was just like, I can't believe how lucky I am. And I remember when the writers had you guys get

married we were all like, what? I know, that was insane. That was, what do you remember of that day shooting it? We, there was a lot of crying. You cried. I mean, I love a wedding. I remember you like cried in the kitchen and then you were like crying like off camera and I was like stop.

I didn't cry that much.

Yes you did. You like literally cried all day. It was so weird.

I was so happy you were in love.

You were like crying all day. There was like- I was not crying all day. I was like we're not even the camera. I was like we're in my trailer like why are you doing this?" And you were like, how do you feel? I'm like, oh my god, no, I'm ordering a salad for lunch. Like, this is my job. I was crying because you were crying so hard and I was worried that we weren't going to get the shot. I was crying because I was sad at how much you were crying. I don't think so. I think that you thought it was real. And yeah, I assumed it was legally binding. Yeah. But it was so good and the vows were so funny.

Yeah.

And the wedding was so stupid.

It was so stupid.

It was so funny. Okay. I mean, I guess like, when do you watch,

have you rewatched Parks and Rec?

Nope.

What? I'm finding this out. Okay. I wouldn't even know how

Shut up

Okay, okay

You asked me how you've never what? The big giant screen that you watch your movies on how does it work go blue blue blue days? I wouldn't go to go to go to what? Type in where the search is. How? Someone tell me.

Peacock.

No. Yes. Yes. Go there or go to iTunes. I wish I knew how. Or go to, you know... Just pick up your controller and just say...

Which one?

...Works and rec into it.

And it'll come up.

Okay, it's probably not the right one.

Go to your DVDs, you love your DVDs.

I wish I had one right now.

So you've never re-watched it?

No.

I don't know what's wrong with you guys.

If it comes on in a hotel room, I literally throw something, I throw it.

Adam says watching the show makes him sad. In a hotel room, I literally throw something. I throw it. I will literally break the TV.

Adam says watching the show makes him sad.

Nick has told me he has not re-watched it.

Liar, he jerks off to it every night. You know he sits there and like, touches himself.

He's like.

You're so right, he's got it on right now.

He's like, Nick, Nick.

Nick, Nick.

That's right, Nick and Tammy. You're right, he does watch it for Tammy.

His real wife, Megan Mullally. They get off on that, they watch it together.

You're so right, they watch it together.

They're sick.

And then they just slap each other in the face.

They're disgusting.

They're so disgusting.

Nick, I know you're listening. You're not fooling anybody. I remember like that episode with April and Ron, that very first thing when we got to play together. I remember like knocking on his door and being like, I canceled all your meetings today or whatever. And I was just, the silence, the silences between us.

The thing that I love so much about Leslie and April's relationship is that Leslie had a plan for April that… and she kept kind of whispering to April, you know, like 2016, a version of like feminism, like you can do it all, you can do whatever you want. She was like, women belong in the kitchen. That game I love to play, the trad wife thing. She was always like, So good. I mean, maybe April would be a tradwife.

She was like, we must respect our man. And Leslie Knope would be like, no, April, no. She'd be like, you must bend over for your man.

You know?

I feel like you, did you improvise that? It feels like something you would have improvised.

Two more things about Parks. What... we had so many fun guest stars come in and like you connected with some of them in interesting ways.

Yeah.

Who do you remember just like love... like just being like, oh, I just like loving the... Because I feel like my job on set was to be like, welcome, you know? And you got to just come up later and be like, what do you think of this? Yeah. You know, you got to just come up later. Yeah, what do you think of this? Yeah, you definitely like it's kind of crazy around When I see something insane Yeah, yeah, you were the cool I mean one of the ones I'll never forget is Patricia Clarkson

Yes, totally made out with her never made it on on the show We still talk about I made out on set, not in the trailers. Oh, sure. Yeah, sure. Sure. Um, Patty would probably be fine with both. That was incredible. And April really fell for Tammy one. Yeah, yeah. She was Tammy one. Yeah, yeah, sure. I mean, one could argue that Ron's mom was the original Tammy. Oh, right, right, right. Played by Paula Pell. Yeah, oh, yeah, that was a good one. Yeah, Tammy, but she was Tammy one,

and Malali was Tammy two.

Who else did you love?

I loved her, fuck, my brain is so broken. I remember Sam Elliott.

I'll throw some people out.

You love Sam Elliott.

Sam Elliott always pops up. I loved Orin. Played by? Love Orin. He was so funny and so weird.

He was so funny.

He was like a vampire boy. Yeah. That was always like lurking in the shadows.

Eric Eisenhower.

Eric. Played Orin.

And, but Eric wasn't really the vampire boy, I think, in real life, but he was very like method. Yes, and I really appreciated that like even when we weren't shooting He'd be kind of like did you try the hummus or whatever and I'd be like, yes Warren. I You know, yes, whatever Who else you also helped us? You helped us secure the mayor. Oh, yeah, honey. You really helped us get Bill Murray. Oh, Mary How do all you have to say to Bill Murray is, you're playing a cadaver.

And he's like, I'm in. Do you remember when, I don't know if you remember this, but do you remember when Chris Bosch was on the show, the basketball player? Chris Bosch, he was a Miami Heat player. Oh, yes. And he was a, remember we had like different basketball, like Roy, Hibbert.

Yes, yeah, Chris Bosh, yes.

Chris Bosh.

He was with like Aziz and was he like?

John Ralfio.

Yeah, Entertainment 720. Yeah, but like, I don't know if you know this story, it was a fairly quick story, but it was so stupid, but I was a really big Chris Bosh fan. So like, I was like, oh my God, like, I can't believe he's coming. Like, this is insane. I was like, I want to play a prank on him. Do you know this? No. And so he had to go through hair and makeup, but you know, he, I think had very little hair and you know, whatever. Didn't need makeup because he's a guy or whatever. But you know how they always put them through the works anyway. Yeah, so I was like, I'm gonna pretend to be the hair stylist

and I think it was a Terry maybe was sure there and you know how she had those glasses or whatever So I was like Terry give me your glasses or I can't remember whatever and I'm thinking like this is gonna be hilarious Cuz it's gonna be me and he'll be like, haha. It's you so I like, pretend to be Terry, I'm like at her station. And then he goes through like makeup first

and they're like, you look good, you know, a little powder and you're good. And then he like went and he was like, yeah, yeah, thanks a lot. And then he sat down in my chair and I was like, well. And I looked at him and I was like,

what are we gonna do today? And I was like doing like a dumb thing and he didn't make any eye contact with me. He was just looking down and he was so sweet. But he didn't make eye contact. He was just like, yeah, whatever you think.

Oh no, and you were like, oh.

And I was like, well, I think that you're looking pretty good, all right. And I'd be like, well, you're not that good. And then I was like, I just kept it going. And someone videotaped it. And it was so awkward. Didn't recognize me at all. Didn't know who I was.

Don't think he ever knew who I was. Not once.

Chris Bosch isn't gonna be watching the show before he comes in.

He's too busy. I was. He thought I was, uh... He thought you were a hair person. And like the PAs are like, we really need him on set. I'm like, well, he's almost done in my department of hair. And then basically it just died.

And he never, you never... Nope.

Well, Chris is probably listening, so now you know.

Never not once.

Never not once. Did you even work with him on set that day? Nope. Never saw him again. Literally never saw him again. Ever in my life.

Oh my god.

I mean people should know you're a big basketball fan.

Yeah. I mean you're a big WNBA fan. Yeah, I love it.

You're a big Liberty fan and many other teams. What do you like about basketball?

You're good at basketball.

Thank you.

Welcome. I grew up playing basketball. Thank you. Welcome. I grew up playing basketball. I just loved the game. My sister and I, we just were a ballin' kind of family. My dad was like coaching our teams and I went to an all-girls high school in Delaware called Ursuline Academy and we were really known for a basketball team. Like first we would you know be the best in the state. Elena Della Donne went to my

school. She's like one of the best WNBA players ever. So I just kind of grew up loving the sport. And then, yeah, my sister Natalie really introduced me to the W. And it was kind of before the kind of Caitlin Clark effect, as they call it. She, well we, but even before that, before that, we joined a women's basketball league in L.A. And we, and there was a lot of Parks people,

like Allison Becker was, you know, a lot of comedians. Shana Mollway-Tweep. Shana Mollway-Tweep was on, was on one of the teams. And there was a whole movement like around that time, like 10 years ago in LA, where like just women were playing basketball and like really playing. Yeah.

And it was so fun. And then kind of after that, I tore my ACL on the court. That's, I mean, pretty baller. Yeah. It's happened twice.

I did it again last year.

I know.

It's very cool. Thank you. I know it's the twice. I did it again last year. I know. It's very cool.

Thank you. I know it's the biggest pain in the ass. Like it's a nightmare to tear your ACL. But like being iced on the court, it looks cool.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, the first time it wasn't so cool because I was actually playing in—I was wearing a wig and I was playing in disguise. And truly— You were pretending to be the hair department. I was yeah, I was pretending to be Terry. Yeah on the court Okay, so we got to talk about your other stuff. There's so much stuff that you've done like I

You I don't even I don't even know where to start plazzi. You're such a good actor. I You've done for people that perhaps don't know you have done a million gazillion movies. You've been in White Lotus You've done Emily the criminal one of my favorite performances of yours you've done you've worked with um what's his name you know the Michael Caine famous um we work with Michael Caine Robert De Niro Robert De Niro you've worked with Bobby De Niro you've worked with the other guy Coppola

you've worked you've been in his movies yeah you You've worked, you've been in his movies. Yeah. You've been in, you've been in like incredible, you, Incredible Black Bear. You've been in, I mean, I should know your IMDB. It's enough. Is that enough? Yeah. It feels like it's not, it just scratched the surface, Plaws. So I guess my question to you is, and it is a genuine question, hold on. Agatha!

Down, down, down the road, down my witch's road. I mean a lot of people think that you were playing yourself in Parks and Rec, but is it true that you were actually playing yourself in Agatha?

Of course.

Yeah.

That was the closest, the most blurred the lines have ever gotten for me. When I was holding the dagger in the woods.

I mean that was so exciting to watch.

I mean that part was bananas. It was crazy. And the response to that show, talk about your hag heads. Talk about your Paris O'Shaughnessy. I know, my baby hags love that shit.

Baby hags, sorry.

I'm going crazy. They're called baby hags, please. Excuse me, baby hags. People I mean there's something about you that like is just witch adjacent, like you organically have a witch vibe, as you said, you were called that early on. Like what is it about you're fascinated, you've written about the Christmas

witch, you've played a witch, Christmas Witch is your great children's book, and it's a

great book by the way.

Thank you. You and Murph. You know we have a new book coming out that just came out on the shelves right now. Oh, tell us about it. It's called Luna and the Witch. Throw a Halloween party. It's a Halloween party.

Yes.

What do you love about, what is it about that witch, your production company is called Evil Hag.

What is it about witches?

And you?

I, you know, it's like, I can't pinpoint exactly where that seeped in, but I will say I grew, I think where I grew up has a, there's a witchy vibe in the woods of Delaware, first of all. It's an old state, the first state in fact. And so I think I kind of grew up kind of always, I don't know, feeling witchy in the woods. But also I think that there's a bloodline thing happening, you know, in my family, with the women in my family. I think...

Wait, say again. Like, I think I feel like I have ancestral, like, witches in my life.

Like, for sure.

Well, I mean, you really, your family feels like a matriarchy, like you have sisters, you have really strong women in your family. And it feels like that's been, that feeling has been passed on. Definitely, on both sides too.

On both sides, right? Yeah. On your dad's side too. And I have, like, Basque blood. And I found out about this years ago when I went to visit, like, the area where supposedly, like, some of my family's from. And there's this town called Zugarramendi, which is on the border of France and Spain

and northern Spain in the Basque region. And it's apparently where like thousands of witches would like convene in these caves, which I went to visit. And like the, you know, we talk about the Salem witch trials, like that was like 200 witches. What? You love that

shit? Boston?

Well, that was, it's funny that you bring up the Salem Rich witch trials. Why? Because we talked to Margaret Qualley today about you. You did? Yes, who is so nice. I know, I love her.

I know, and she loves you.

I know. We have a really sweet little connection there. And we got to talk about, you know, it's my favorite part of this in many ways is to hear is to talk well behind someone's back. And she was saying, which, you know, I know firsthand because of the love and support I feel from you and our history together,

but she was talking about how, like, you are a real girls' girl. You are, like, you know, you really support women. You love women. You take good care of them. You feel supported and loved by them, and you surround yourself with really strong, interesting women who you learn from and teach

to all the time.

But her question was, what were the Salem witch trials like?

What?

Bitch.

Honestly, they were fun.

Alexis.

They were fun, Alexis. Alexis, they were fun. They. They were fun, Alexis.

Alexis, they were fun.

They were fun. They were hilarious. Like everyone was freaking out and I was just like, you guys are like so stupid. But I definitely can see you back in the day being honest. I would love it. What do you think that was the best part about playing a witch on Agatha?

The best part for me was just like cackling. Yes. about playing a witch on Agatha? The best part for me was just like cackling. Because I had this one scene, like this one part at the end where like, and I don't even know why, but it was, I think cackling,

there's something about cackling, I swear that is like really therapeutic. Well, it's probably somatic, like you've mentioned. It's like screaming. Yeah. But it's like somatic, like you've mentioned. It's somatic. It's like screaming. Yeah. But it's like, you think like, why are witches cackling? Where does that come from? I feel like

it must be some old-timey way that women were like working out their rage. Yes. Because I'm not very tapped into that, my rage and whatever. But like, when I really let loose and am able to like cackle or whatever like it's I don't know It's just it feels good for me And I really took that and ran with it and like the scene in Agatha where i'm like sitting I'm like sitting on top of the house

and like the and i'm on a wire because i'm like flying down there and she's down on the ground going like

you know

I'm, like screaming at me and I was just like and I was cackling like Crazy, but I went really crazy with it and it felt good. Oh good It felt really good to just be like just let loose speaking of Margaret Qualley movie, honey, don't honey don't you're in it with her. Yeah, and Who directed it and how did you and how did you tell us about it? Um, mr. Ethan who directed it and how did you, and how did you, tell us about it.

Mr. Ethan Coen directed it, of the Coen brothers. And Ethan wrote it with his wife Trish, Trisha Cook. And how did I get involved in it? Like how do you pick, why, I mean I find your, the way you choose parts really interesting. How do you choose what you're gonna do next? I mean, I think it's just,

it's a, I mean, a lot of the things that I do, I feel like are somewhat self-generated because I've produced like five movies and I read scripts and I've done, I like that approach. You've developed things from the ground up.

Yeah, like, I mean, I did that really, that's what I've done a couple times. But then, you know, as an actor, you also get offers sometimes, you know? But I think people think a lot of times that like actors just like sit there and wait and are sifting through like 10 offers or whatever. But it's never like that. It's always kind of different than that.

But this one, I don't know how I choose. I think a lot of it's kind of has to do with like, what I feel like kind of diving into energetically, or like character wise, because I tend to really like go there. And so I don't, there are certain things that I just,

even if the script's like really good or if it's like you gotta work with Glenn Powell or whatever, it's like I don't. But you gotta work with him. I know, but I don't want to.

You gotta.

I can't. You can't.

No. He's neighbors with Jack McBrayer.

I don't, alright fine I'll do it laughter I'm definitely interested in like doing the opposite of what I just did or like you know the honey don't um thing to me honestly was like mind blowing that a Coen brother wanted to work with me

you know I was like oh my god like

Honey, everybody wants to work with you honey

Tarantino where the fuck are you? Hello Tarantino, sorry Quentin Do your earmuffs, do your earmuffs Tarantino I'll do anything I'll do anything Tarantino

Absolutely Tarantino, Quentin I am her manager As her manager she will not do anything Ring ring

Tarantino it's Aubrey Guess what, I'll do anything you want babe

It's extra for the feet hun

Naked in heels, Tarantino. You're gonna get an immediate call from Quentin Tarantino. Good.

Can't wait. God, I can't wait for it.

Whatever is the scary ass shit he's gonna make me, put me through again.

Don't care. You think I didn't care before?

How about now?

Definitely don't care about anything.

No. Quentin, no. We're gonna, okay. But so you.

What?

But this brings me. But you, but what are you like, because you have worked with a lot of different directors. You work and you've, and do you want to direct, right? Yeah. I mean, you have directed already,

but you want to do that more?

Yeah, I directed, yes. I directed an episode of a Showtime show called Cinematost that Jeff created. And it was during the pandemic and it was a really, really cool show. And I loved my episode.

Unfortunately, I don't think you can watch it anymore. I don't think it exists. it anymore. I don't think it exists. I think Showtime like literally just erased it. It's kind of weird about some TV. Like we were making jokes about how to find parks but some TV just is like it's gone away. It just goes away. It's weird. I mean I guess when I was

growing up that is what happened with TV. You couldn't watch it again. Yeah, that's true. It just went away, but that's true. But now it feels weird that it goes away

Yeah, but yeah, no, I haven't directed. I want to direct a movie but like I'm I'm scared Girl, I know but you know what it is It's like I I wanna I know but I it's like I want I'm a little bit like I'm being too precious about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I know.

You just gotta just do it. But I wanna have something to say. I have something I wanna. You have something to say.

I wanna, shut up.

I mean.

I wanna say, what?

Sorry.

What?

Sorry, I interrupted.

No, tell me.

I literally don't know.

What do you wanna say?

I don't I say nothing. How about that? It's called Seinfeld the movie

Okay, and so what would be like as we wrap up

Back to movies. What are the movies that like give you what are the movies like? What are your comfort movies?

You know Speaking of comfort just a reminder that Frankie's been asleep under your chair the entire time. Best dog ever. Best dog ever. Dakota Johnson was on and she brought her dog.

She thinks she's better than me.

No, sorry.

No.

It's not a competition. Frankie wins best dog for sure. Yeah, she does. Okay, but comfort movies. Comfort movies. You've Got Mail. Love You've Got Mail. Speaking of Tarantino on his top ten favorite movies of all time. Yeah

but guess what if he made it? What? It'd be like You've Got Mail you open the envelope there's a finger in it. No! He would never. Oh yeah. He would never. Okay. You've Got Mail I love that movie That's like a real comfort movie when Harry man Sally I think like a lot of like 90s like rom-coms are really comfort movies for me. Like I grew up like on all those movies like sleepless in Seattle and

Just I watched you on a plane recently parenthood and moonstruck. Oh my God, Moonstruck is... Parenthood's so good too. Love Moonstruck. Moonstruck. Okay, and then I ask everybody this, like, and this is maybe, you know, this is like, take some more import for you this year probably than other times, but like, what do you, what makes you actually laugh?

What do you do when you really want to like deeply laugh? Where do you go? Do you watch something? Do you read something? Do you go to friends? Do you like? I mean, there's certain, I would say there's just certain people that make me laugh.

I don't laugh a lot when I watch things.

It's like a question I've asked a lot of people

because to me it's like, it it's basically like how do you how do you stay happy above the line? Laughing? How do you stay on the cliff and not in the gorge?

Hmm. Hmm.

May I tell you what I've observed that you've been laughing at? I do feel like, I feel like the way in which your friends know you and you know them, like the way you like create family and the way that you feel like safe around people and the way that you can like laugh at yourself. You have a very good sense of humor about yourself. Yeah. You're able to get teased really hard and you love to tease.

Yeah, I like that. I like teasing. I do too. And I think it's a love language. I don't know if it's East Coast, I don't know if it's whatever,

but like to me, the more comfortable I am with someone, the more I wanna tease them and wanna be teased by them? Yeah. I would say, yeah, like my closest friends, like Bombardo, you know, my all my group of my women friends that we were in an all-girl improv group, but then we turned into a coven, legit. We call ourselves Bombardo. Like we do, we have like a text chain and we do like zooms and we do like trips and

those girls make me laugh really, really hard. Also we all known each other for so long. It's my oldest that's the best thing that makes me laugh it's just funny all my funny friends. Well Plosy we did it. We did. We really did it. Okay. Great job. Thank you for doing this means a lot that you came. I got the part. You got the part. You got the part of yourself. Okay, finally after all these years. I needed you to audition for the part of you in the podcast and

congratulations. Thank you so much. Thank You Aubrey Plaza aka April Ludgate. My daughter, sister, wife, friend, and we all wanted you to be here and we're really glad you are. And that was so fun and funny and always a good hang with you. So thank you for coming. And today's Polar Plunge, I just want to talk and just remind people of the beautiful films that Aubrey Plaza and her late husband, Jeff Baina, made together. They include Little Hours, Life After Beth,

Spin Me Round. They're all really great, beautiful, funny films that you should check out and check out Jeff Bain's work. He's an incredible writer and director and his work is really special. And it leads me to say that, you know, if someone you know or you yourself is struggling emotionally or thinking about suicide, you can call the National Suicide and Crisis Prevention Lifeline at 988. If you're outside of the U.S., visit Spotify.com slash resources for information and resources.

You've been listening to Good Hang. The executive producers for this show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss-Berman, and me, Amy Poehler. The show is produced by The Ringer and Paper Kite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Kat Spillane, Kaya McMullen, and Alea Zanaris. For Paper Kite, production by Sam Green, Joel Lovell,

and Jenna Weiss Berman. Original music by Amy Miles. Original music by Amy Miles.

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