Baseer Exposes BiggBoss | Baseer Ali x Paras Chhabra Podcast | Abraa Kaa Dabra Show

I was like, what's this? I'm not going to play. I'm not going to play.

I'm not going to play. I'm not going to play. I go, yeah, winner personality. But in my season, I was like, what do I talk to him about? Yeah. The elimination happened and Salman sir said, you're going out because of lack of votes. Sadly, I came out, came out of the tunnel, sat in the car, and sent straight to Vanity.

Okay.

Straight to home from Vanity.

Yeah.

Nobody from the team, Gio, Colors, Viacom,

nobody met me.

What? Not even a call. So that's a bit heartbreaking. I think someone has revealed their inner self. I made an interest in Tanya because of Mithal. I want to hear her talks. Larger than life.

The meme audience that only wants to see funny and humorous things got connected to Tanya. And they came to watch the show because of Tanya.

And that became a boom. Nowadays, you see that song playing, Mei Ree Saason Mein Tu.

What a braggart he is, bro!

I wish I could do that here.

What about Farhana? You were having an affair with Farhana. That was completely non-thought, I mean, completely...

It was real.

I looked at her and she was right here. I said, you're beautiful. Is he your boyfriend? And I didn't realize that I had a broom in my hand. Someone from your team was saying that someone was flirting with you.

Tania Mittal.

Oh!

Okay?

I did something like this.

Then I went close to the picture. She touched my photo like this.

Yes.

And like this.

Oh!

I saw it. I told you.

Huh?

And the worst thing about Malti's... I was at home when he asked Amal a question. Do you think Baseer is straight?

Huh?

It is mind-blowing to see that the person who came and questioned my sexuality, his sexuality was question hui hai by so many contestants.

Yeah.

She has produced films, I guess?

Oh yes!

Where she is the heroine also?

She is confessing that she is a lesbian on that show as well. Tanya! Tanya tops the charts. Ek din bete bete kehati hai, Watch the charts. One day she says, My garden area is as big as Bigg Boss' house. Our golden fountains are as big as K. GK gets up from the middle.

GK says,

Forget all this.

Tell me, where do you eat Baklava in Dubai? Tell me the name of the place.

Tell me the name of the shop. He is a historical witness.

He has never mentioned the name.

Okay. Tanya didn't tell me that. She's a fool.

Welcome to the show, Aabra Ke Dabra. Our guest for today is a Spitzvilla winner. And in Bigg Boss, which is currently going on,

he is the most favourite contestant of all.

How are you, brother? Amazing, brother. I'm blessed.

He is not feeling well. He is having a viral infection. He has a sore throat. He is having antibiotics. But he still came here on time. Thank you very much, brother.

I love you, bro.

I have always been an admirer of your work. You, your personality, the way you carry yourself.

Thank you, brother.

Since the first time I saw you, I was like, dude, something about this guy. I have also learnt from you, Prince. You are the figures who will help us enter the reality space.

So, it's a pleasure being here and thank you so much for having me. Thank you, brother. I just did Bigg Boss.

Oh, yes.

How was the journey of Bigg Boss?

Very exciting.

Exciting.

To be honest. One of the very most important things in my bucket list of reality shows... ...was that Bigg Boss was like the destination. Okay. So, I had to do it. Because until you do that, you don't get the tag that you've done reality. So, I did it and finally got in.

In the first week, I was like, okay, that's it.

That's Bigg Boss.

That's it. I was like, I'm getting a lot of time in between. There are a lot of pauses, blinds are put on. So, for somebody like me who does back to back things he was getting a lot of pauses. I felt that my energy was going down and up. But even the contestants, I was expecting very different.

Okay.

Which I expressed there.

Like? Like, not like people, people. But I was like, whenever we used to watch Bigg Boss. For example, you watch your season. Look here, yes, by winner's personality. Look there, yes, by winner's personality.

It felt like there are chances for both. But in my season, whenever I was around the people in the beginning weeks, like the first two weeks, I was like, what should I talk to them about? I wasn't feeling very relatable. I wasn't feeling like... Most people I didn't know also. So, somewhere or the other, that didn't work for me. The contestants weren't my type.

I was even bashed for that because I had said

that the contestants are like this and that.

So, maybe that didn't work for me either, Paras. When I said that in the second week only, the way they bashed me, I think that narrative was set and the eyes of the contestants in the house started looking at me like, he talks big, he has a superiority complex. I meant something else,

but it was done in a different way. But on the whole, I was ready for everything. Before going to the Big Boss, you know where you are going. Absolutely. So, whatever happened, I am very happy, satisfied, content. I played a good game.

I liked the experience.

But that's it. That's it.

Now you don't want to do reality shows? We will do, but this time, this captive reality zone, I need a break. So, how did you feel? Does Bigg Boss make a name or spoil it? It's in our hands. It's in our hands?

It's in our hands what you do. But the sole control is in the hands of the makers. Because it's their show. They know what to do, what to show, how to show, how much to show, which part to show.

What do you think, that Bigg Boss showed Basi Raleigh the way he is? They caught an element of mine. That bad boy, aggressive, loud, outspoken. A person doesn't stay in that element for 24 hours. In a difficult situation, in a competitive zone, when you are having a fight with someone,

when you are trying to win, you do this in that angle. Now, I personally felt after finishing the show and coming back that I think they were trying to bring that one characteristic

of each contestant out in that one hour episode.

Yes.

That when a person comes in that element in 24 hours that part qualifies in that episode. And that storyline runs. Where you will feed that thing again and again that will be made till the episode. But unless you are doing that thing, it will keep getting made up to the episode. But unless you are doing that, then you are good.

Otherwise, you will start getting cut, you will start looking less. Like what happened to me. Okay. So, Bigg Boss was in the bucket list.

Yes.

What was the feeling when you entered on the first day? Seeing the logo of Bigg Boss, seeing such a big house, seeing 150 cameras. What was the feeling?

I was overwhelmed. Very much overwhelmed. As soon as I entered, I saw Avez Nagma... ...Zeeshan Qadri... ...and some other people. I was like, wow, people have already come in.

Then I saw the bedrooms... ...and the garden area. I was like, this is what's going to happen. This is the battlefield where the battle will take place. And all that was in my mind. And then I think within the first hour, I started getting the feeling that,

okay, we have to play the game as well. Everyone is observing each other. This is happening, that is happening. So, the house has its own energy. I am sure you know.

Of course.

And as soon as you go, you get into that mindset and some lock is put in your mind and then you just continue the game. It was good.

It was a little boring for me. It was boring? The whole experience. The whole time. Because like I said, you get long breaks in between.

You don't get tasks. We come from shows like Roadies and Splitsville. Which ends in 25 days. Exactly. It ends in 25-30 days. But what do we do there? Cut-throat performances in the morning and evening. Yes.

If we are talking big, like, I'll show you what I can do. Then we get a chance to show it. And we see it man-to-man. And the message reaches the world. We are talking big here, but we are not getting the task.

Yes.

Bajaj and I are fighting. So, I was feeling a bit lost. How do I prove that I am the guy that I am talking to?

If I have my words, I can back it up with my performance.

So, what did you feel? The people you were threatening to come to the show... Were you having a bias against them? Or were you not trying to save them? So that their reputation doesn't get ruined?

No, it was in the early phase.

Because these tasks were for the first month. 30-40 days of the show. The first few days.

Be it Bajaj, Aways or GK...

What we see here is based on that.

she gets to go in the app room.

She gets access to the app room.

And she is given a protective shield.

I didn't get any help or support. So, I used to get biased and controlled.

So, there was a lot of noise outside.

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What do you feel?

What did you feel when they said, Baseer, you're eliminated? For a second, I'll tell you, I was a few point percent believing that it's going to happen. I had a feeling since that morning. You get a feeling.

I was in the same house for 63 days. I was feeling different.

I was feeling different.

I had a feeling. And I was like, what will happen now? When the elimination happened and Salman sir said, you are going out because of lack of votes. Till that point, 63 days, one feedback, one guidance, one weekend's attack, I didn't get any appreciation.

I got fun on my clothes, I had a lot of talks on my relationships inside the house. I was called wrong in my fights where I said something wrong to someone. I apologized, I fought with A someone and I was called out for it. I apologized and fought with him. These were the issues. I didn't tell him that Basit is liking me.

Your audience is liking you. No, XYZ, nothing. I directly threw him out. The moment that card slid, I looked at him and said, didn't people like me this time?

I worked so hard for so many years and finally lost everything after coming to Big Boss. Because there is no idea about the outside world. Social media numbers, followers, likes, trends, nothing. Sadly, I came out of the tunnel, got in the car and sent straight to Vanity.

Straight to home. Nobody from the team, Geo, Colors, Viacom, nobody met me.

What?

After that, when I came out, came home, met my mom, took my phone, I was happy. I got my phone. But coming back to this, a couple of days later I met one of my friends, Zeeshan Qadri.

He was on the show.

He came out a week or two before me. So, I met him and he told me that he was taken to his room. And then we sat with names that I know. Everyone said that I went wrong. You did this and that. So, I got butt hurt after listening to their conversation.

I was like, why didn't I get to meet him? Why didn't I talk to him? Then I met Natalia. She also told me that they met me also. Then I found out others also got to meet. Then why not me, buddy? I am not saying I have given you the best season in the world.

But I have contributed to your season. I have done something that people are going to remember when they say Bigg Boss 19.

For sure.

Baseer will get at least 2%. No, he will get the full amount.

Right, my dear?

I am expecting you 63 days. You have taken me out of the show

as if I was not there.

That is hurtful.

You didn't even get any creatives?

Nobody. Not even a call.

Not even a call. So that's a bit heartbreaking. I think someone has taken out his inner self.

Right?

Because Baseer shouldn't have been eliminated from the show. Baseer was in the top five.

Lack of votes.

Everyone was saying, even we were saying that Baseer is going to the top five. That means he is one of the contestants who is content.

Exactly.

He is content. Abhishek Bajaj, you, Amal Malik because of the biasness.

Yeah.

And GK. GK is Colors Face.

Yes.

So, definitely those they will support him. What can I say about GK?

This guy.. Respect for all the career that he's had. 20 years in the industry. He's been killing it in his field and everything. But what.. Where was the contribution? Till I was on the show, I was seeing zero contribution coming in.

He was just running his group and friends. All that happening. After coming out, I understood how much favour he's getting from the show. How.. I think he's their favourite. This is my own perspective. I've observed a lot of things and all that. And I say, let anyone win this season. Because even if someone wins without any contribution

it's going to be the same thing. People will remember the season with somebody else's name.

Yes.

And this is not happening for the first time in my personal story.

Absolutely. I'm good with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I had to do four reality shows before Bigg Boss. I won only one, Splits. I went to Roadies twice. Both were finalists, but I didn't win. I went to Ace of Space. Finalist. I didn't win.

I always had a passion to complete the journey. I never thought I would be in. I got a lot of calls. A lot of people told me that Baseer is out. Ask him to come on the podcast. I said, Baseer was going to come anyway. He was going to come before Bigg Boss.

And he will come now. I will talk to him. And you also talked to my friend. Yes, we have a lot of mutuals. She is a big fan of you. And she became childhood best friend. He didn't watch my season. He watched yours. And you've seen how he spoke.

Big love, Felza. Yeah. So, people love you. People think that Baseer was a great guy. He wasn't going to leave. And after you left, the show's TRP has gone down.

Yes.

Right?

We all saw the numbers.

It's in the news and everywhere. Big Boss's TRP has gone down. You won't believe it because I came out and obviously we are going cut to cut with the season on TV. So, the live is just a few days back and forth. Everywhere I am going, first they will show love, meet me, take photos. Before they leave, they make sure to tell me,

Bro, app delete, after you left, I didn't see the show since you left. I have not seen the episode. I don't want to watch it. I don't want to know. The show is over for us. The day I heard it, I left. I didn't even turn on Big Boss. I didn't even turn it on. Whereas, my friend Ashnoor… Ashnoor stays here.

Ashnoor is a friend. So, it's a'm not enjoying it. The taunts and lies that she used to say, maybe she's not doing that now.

I'm so happy.

But I'll tell you what, we have to give it to her. You're a reality show player. We've done shows too.

Two hands ahead of everyone.

Yes.

From day one.

Yes.

The public image she's making and walking with. Yes. She is the best player in the hub. Yes, yes, yes. Because of Tanya Mittal, I got interested in her. I wanted to hear her talks.

Larger than life.

Because of Tanya Mittal, a lot of people started watching Bigg Boss. But the way people troll her, the way they open up the polls...

I think that's why she is so popular.

I think that's why she is so popular. I think that's why she is so popular. So, many people have started watching Bigg Boss because of Tanya Mittal. But the way people troll her, the way they are exposing her... Did you see any reals?

In every season, we do this. When we go fishing, we put a small nibble in the pond. To feed the fish. So, in my opinion, Tanya is that thing that we put in the water to attract the fishes.

Yes.

So, whether it's negative or positive PR, it's PR. Tanya's talks have taken this season to a very different audience.

Yeah.

The meme audience, who only wants to see funny, humorous things. They connected with Tanya.

And they came to watch the show because of Tanya.

And that became a boom.

Nowadays, you see that song playing. My breath...

So, what a I could do that.

I'll tell you my first acting experience.

I gave a full look. And then my director calls me. He's like, what did you do? I said, sir, I had to give the same shot. He said, son, you do it in real time. We will make the heroics. You can't create what you've seen cinematically. You do it in real time. We will make it. So I have to give this advice to Tania. You do it in real time. We'll make the cinematic.

Because the audience is sitting on social media.

Yes. Yes.

So I think she's doing that and working for her. She was your friend in the show?

For a good time. Actually, very sweet and sour. I spoke to her on the first day. Because she was sitting alone on the table. And I gave her a genuine advice. I had one…

What do you call it? and I gave her a genuine advice. I had a principle for this season. I had made a rule before I left. I would give everyone a chance to be friends. I would make everyone my friend without getting into a rough patch. The one who I got into a bad patch with, I would move forward in the game.

So, I had to go and say hi to everyone. I didn't want anyone to say that I didn't come to talk to them. Or whatever. I used to tell everyone not to say that he didn't come to talk to me. This and that.

So, I made my friendship with her.

She says while washing the dishes...

What? She says, I even take advantage of my enemies. Today I'm saying it. End of friendship. where she's saying at home I like him. But he has also done a lot for me.

Okay. Okay. What about Farhana? Did you have anything going on with Farhana? Being brutally honest, bro. We are Splitsvilla boys.

We don't need to do anything.

Firstly.

With Farhana, I didn't even have a last resort that we will flirt or something like that. She was so hell-bent that I will make her do anything. Since she came back from the secret room. I had to find a way out of that, bro.

Hold on. Who are you talking about?

Farhana.

I remember Farhana. First week, first day, there were 16 beds in the house but there were 17 contestants. One was sleeping outside, something happened. The next day, it was decided that one had to be out right now. And that was Farhana.

Yes.

It became a secret room. And then she threw me out of the first captaincy. I didn't know that. I didn't go around. Then I later found out that she was sitting in this room and taking decisions. Because of which I didn't go.

We had a fight.

I remember Nehal went there. Second person. She was the second person. Right. So Farhana came and started fighting with me.

And then I become normal.

I have to find a way to deal with this.

It's all over social media.

Very real.

I didn't think he would go anywhere.

when Nihal had come back,

That's the understanding.

So, I was very... These people start...

I don't want to flirt with him, I want to flirt with you.

Next day, Farhana calls me. Listen, I think Nehal has feelings for you. You're not saying it, but you're trying to make it evident.

Then I said, I don't want to be that asshole guy

who's pushing away somebody who's into you. I can't give her anything back, that's secondary. But I have a lot of respect, time and friendship on the show. What are we doing? We are not waving flags. Big Boss is also sitting inside. So I was being a good friend to her. She fell sick. She had fever of 102-103. Feeding her, sitting with her, spending time with her. That was going on.

Those things went viral in your city.

Yes, people made a love angle. Someone's sick. It's okay. I don't regret doing anything. She and I had a very rough road. Okay? On the show.

Okay.

We fought a lot. My fights were the most brutal.

Farhana and Nehal. Farhana and Nehal fought a lot.

Okay.

I called her a workaholic. She called me a traitor. She called me a thief. I don't know what I said to him. That's very true. You said so many things in our season. Would you like to highlight something?

In my season? It's been six years. You keep saying it. We're talking about 2019.

But, you know, the show's atmosphere one of the main reasons I was feeling locked up and restricted is that we should see the big boss that you guys have. Yes. In this one, it's about culture. Culture. Manners. Okay. Yes, don't say good things, don't say negative things, don't bring in external things, don't do this, don't do that. And these contestants are...

Avis, Praneet, Bajaj. Be good, be good, be good, be good. Now, let's say I have a debate here. I respect you so much that I'm I am arguing with you and I am walking out and going to your main door and saying, I am going crazy. This is also not allowed. If you walk out and go to that door and abuse, then you are wrong.

So who made this rule? Not these boys, not the contestants. That you are going there and abusing, abuse on the face. Why do you have the courage to abuse? Look, Salman sir abuses. I felt like I was in a boarding school.

So, it was really a light 19. The atmosphere has changed a bit. It has changed. I don't feel like it was like before. In our time, we didn't care about our mother or sister. Big Boss people had to do so much cutting and chopping. Even after that, there was a lot of noise.

I was like, there was nothing like that here. I just told a guy, then, I would still get a lot of money.

I was like, nothing like this was happening here. I just told a guy, You think I'm fake? You think I'm a wannabe?

Go back to your village.

You villagers! You farmers! I was like, You're dragging me to the village of farmers. Very different. Who was this village guy?

Praneet. Praneet. Praneet is from Maharashtra, right? I thought he must have come from a village in Maharashtra. I didn't know if he lives in Bombay, Pune or where. I asked him after the fight.

I asked him where he lives.

He said he lives in Bombay.

I was like, shit, bro.

So I thought, because he doesn't get it. That I am like this. You met me here and you know me for 30 days. It's not necessary that you can accept me like this.

And because I am Basir and I have spent my life as Basir,

I know it's difficult for people to accept me for who I am. I am larger than life. You relate to this somewhere. Different people have to go through that different pattern. So, I understood what I was in.

The kind of problem. So I said, if you don't understand this, please go back to your village. Very respectfully. What is it? I made him like that. You made him a fool.

I was given a lot of things just like that. Because I am a loud personality. And I am very unfiltered. I speak bitterly. I speak the truth.

It's not bitter. It's the truth.

The truth is bitter.

And on top of that, He is saying something that if we say it in normal days outside of Bigg Boss, then maybe no one would have felt it.

There wouldn't be any difference.

Because he is on TV, Bigg Boss has to make him a fool. So, maybe on Friday, Salman sir will come and say that you called him a villager. He is from the village. That means, they make that contestant even more hot.

Yes.

They make the family and friends outside him hot. and they get excited. The fans get excited. As if the show gets a boost. It's a high point that the promo will be cut.

Yes.

People will come back to watch the episode with the promo.

Absolutely.

That's the point. That's true. How does Praneet feel? I don't have a lot of issues with him. He used to say that he is very logical, very fair, always solution-driven. Partially, was partially right. There were many chances where he used to talk sensibly.

But he didn't do anything remarkable in the season. I don't remember a single issue where he was leading the issue. Without having anybody... He didn't have leadership quality.

He was missing leadership quality. He is a good friend. He was having his own friendships. He played all those equations with Bajaj. That part, neither I am Bajaj's friend nor his friend. I know him. We are acquaintances. Nor I am Praneet's friend. We are acquaintances. I would like to say this in a neutral way.

Praneet had to choose between Ashnur and Bajaj. Who will stay and who will leave. You can see who has contributed more in Bajaj and Ashnur in the season 19. Obviously, the leader was Bajaj. The follower was Ashnur. I told him in the show that he looked like a follower.

You follow him 24x7. You can't see anyone. So, he came out and sent Bajaj first. Then he was asked a question. Amal was the manager in a task. And Amal asked him to explain his decision.

Why did you send Bajaj and why did you keep Ashnur? He said, my values match more with Ashnur. You're not thinking about the game? You're not thinking about your competition? Are you telling me that you're not interested in beating this person going ahead in the game? And you think it's easier to beat an Ashnur over a Bajaj.

And your first priority was Bajaj. And the first chance you got, you dumped him.

The first move of the season

Every weekend.

Very playfully. And I don't even understand it secretly. I understand it a little bit. Because you didn't see that footage. You don't know what he was talking about. You don't know what was happening.

Ranit More didn't know.

Oh, yes. By the way, no one knew when he came in the show. But later on when Salman sir started bashing him. we got to know that he was scolding for this. Harsh Gujral and Abhishek Malhan had come.

For a Sunday episode to roast.

Everyone was roasting.

In Praneet's roasting, some lines were said like, don't you remember you were beaten up? So, I ignored that. But boys picked it up. Amal, Shehbaz, Ishan and everybody.

Then they started teasing him.

Then it was confirmed that he had a fight with one of the Bollywood guys. He said something like that to him.

Okay. But I've heard that it has happened 95%. Okay.

Because we haven't done a fact check. We can't announce this.

Okay.

But it has happened.

And maybe someone has taken confirmation about it. I wasn't there. So, I got to know that it has happened. Even then, I never used all this against anyone.

I was like, why should why ruin everyone's image? Everyone has come to become a big boss.

You said that Baseer is very good.

We missed Baseer.

which can take you to the next level.

I have talked about this in my podcast.

So, how does Nehal look?

Because Nehal has said something good for Baseer.

I respect that. I appreciate Nehal saying good things about me. At least...

She was just saying that he used to flirt with everyone. That's an open out. That's real. That's on me. I am like that. And that's open out. That's real. That's on. I am like that. And that's healthy flirting. It's not like I have to take that thing somewhere. Absolutely.

I walk around and say, you have beautiful hair. I like your eyes. Wow, lovely dress. What will I lose?

You should keep complimenting girls. It feels good. And I have done this much flirting in Bigg Boss. While walking with Nihal. She was doing gym. I said, look at her posture. I'm like this only, bro. So, there, those things started to escalate with friendship. So, I understand all that. And, Nihal, the reason why I was friends with her in the beginning

and then once we broke up, then she came from the secret room and then we broke up, then we got back together. Our first breakup was in friendship. The main thing was, the issues she had raised in the house. The trauma people. I found it unreasonable there. Because you could express it... ...and it could be addressed... ...and everyone could stand with you.

But the way you chose... ...was very loud. And the explosion didn't happen. It didn't land well. So I thought people will take it the wrong way. Before the audience could come out of that,

the second task happened where she did it again.

Yeah.

The board broke and she went into another traumatic situation. All that, all that. And then my bashing happened. I realized that I didn't come to Big Boss to do this. Now, she is a very good friend of mine. It is my duty to stand with her.

Because I align with my friends and all that. But we can discuss how it can be done. Now you are doing it in your zone. You are saying that I should also join. I don't know. I feel it's going too far. So, there was a distance. And then eventually..

Because there was a little friendship in the beginning. Which is why we always could come back to it.

But again, the show runs in so many dimensions that it couldn't happen. That's right. It was difficult. Even better circumstances, I think, Nehal's friendship could have been better. But not between Bigg Boss. Not... After Bigg Boss? Now I'm a little disappointed. I've seen some clips, I've seen some things. My fans have made a compilation.

Okay. A whole clip of 9 and a half minute clip.

Okay.

In which only Nehal has done something about me. That's all. 9 and a half minutes.

Okay.

So, I was in a very good state that day too. But after seeing that clip, I was like, damn! Because all those clips are from the days when our friendship was going on. There were no fights. Being in friendship, how they have changed someone's mind about me,

how they have manipulated me, that's disappointing. Backstabbing.

Yes, backstabbing could be the word. It's playing with me. It's my image, my reputation, my friendship, my emotions. You played with all those things. But again, my reputation, my friendship, my emotions. You played with all those things. But again, I still don't hate you. I don't think you're a bad person. People do things to stay in the game, to move forward in the game, to stay connected in the game.

But I think we should not hold them accountable for just that. They are much more than that.

Nice, nice. So, I think it will get better. Now, there is scope for friendship. Life is too long. If you are getting songs, some songs are offered or some work is offered, so you would love to do it with her.

If we both are getting benefit from it, then definitely.

Why not? Why not? Why not? It should be something career altering. Yes. That it is beneficial. There is no benefit in doing something small. that should bring something back to your life. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Who was the best in the whole Bigg Boss?

Who was the best?

Shaibaz.

Shaibaz?

Amal, Shaibaz, Zeeshan bhai.

Okay.

And Neelam.

Neelam also. Neelam is very sweet. Guys, you guys have seen that side. When we used to make me laugh so much without saying a word. Really? Shaibaz used to make me laugh so much without stopping. Amal bhai's juggles. Zeeshan bhai's elder brother in the group.

But we used to tease him a lot.

Yes.

I've made amazing friends. You won't believe it. One of the most important reasons for me to do Big Boss I used to tell people this. Because I was doing Daily Soap. I used to get disconnected from everyone. Your friends, your social life, your girlfriend, family. Everything was upside down. I had no friends left.

And I said, I just don't need Big Boss to come back on social media. You know, be everything. Your engine starts kicking off all of a sudden. Everyone is driving at a normal slow pace. Gear change, Big Boss, you come to the top gear. I needed that for my career.

But I needed that for my career. But I needed friends. I needed people with whom I could align. With whom I could leave the house, pick up the car and feel like going somewhere.

Right.

There are a lot of people who invite me. Right. I don't feel like going. So now I've found Amal, Shahbaz, Zeeshan bhai, Neelam. I really enjoy these people.

Good friends, good people.

Who is the most special?

Most special? The most special...

Man...

If you have to think, then it's not him.

I haven't found anyone as effective as him. I haven't found anyone as effective as him. Because, like I had Ishan Bhai with me. He didn't save me once. Amal didn't save me either. He cried later. Shahbaz never got that chance.

So, I haven't seen such extraordinary. Everyone is nice. I have a strong friendship with everyone.

Absolutely.

Now, I am remembering one episode where

Farhana was eating when she didn't give the letter to Neelam.

Yes. I think Amaal personally, he's dealing with changes in his life, lifestyle, personal life.

especially first show like Bigg Boss. I came to Bigg Boss directly. At least we have brought other experiences. So, we are prepared mentally. This was the first blow to Amal.

As much as I could read. Right.

So, for him, it was too much. He has said such things like, let Bigg Boss come, we will see Sarman sir. So, you understand where his psyche is. When the switch goes off, he just explodes. Explodes. So, that was an explosion again.

That Farhana incident. Couple of seconds before he did that, I was in the bedroom. We were all upset. I also took out my anger on Farhana. I was in the room that we won't get the letter.

A couple of people were sitting with me. Amal walks into the bedroom with aggression. And he's like, he's not that shy or something like that. He's not that guilty that she's eating food. I said, she's eating food. Let her eat. Let her do whatever she wants. Let her go out. Don't look at her.

I said this and he went out. And he snatched it and whatever happened. So, absolutely wrong.

We also opposed him and made him realise.

I made him realise his words and he apologized.

But that was...

He will make a mistake. 100 percent.

Some people become weak.

That happened and apologising like the more mature thing.

is that everybody thinks that the show is biased towards Amal.

And you guys stuck was in your minds. In the same way, the audience is thinking the same way

I know what happens inside and outside.

So, what I saw, I see that better than Amaal,

you and Abhishek were better than Amaal.

Then he gets scared and stops talking. We are sitting together. I feel that I didn't do this. But this season, I saw that whoever is fighting

Then why should we keep them?

Okay.

Now tell me, when you went to Bigg Boss,

did you feel anything paranormal there?

Bro...

What a question you asked! You won't believe it, I stopped dreaming.

I don't remember dreaming. Okay. I don't remember dreaming. Okay. Here, every single day...

I won't say scary.

But, I had horrible dreams. Horrible dreams. I mean, different.

And every day I'm waking up restless.

...Kunika's bed was in front of me. Triple bed. Then Farhana's bed and Neha Loka's bed.

Why are there three Pazuzus there?

For what? They are literal goblins. Yes.

I am like, bro.

They are not goblins. I think they are called something else. I am forgetting the name. They are goth characters. And it's just crazy to see that. It was a lot of danger energy.

First of all, the one eye that you see.

They have branded it. ...that you see with one eye. That has been branded. I'll tell you something.

Garden area. Now you are in front of the BB sign. There is a triangle behind the BB sign. Okay. Wooden log. There is a wallpaper behind that triangle...

...which has an arc. And there are two focus red lights below it.

It's the center of the house. So, it was believed that this is an Illuminati show.

Because the concept is such. There are no faces. There's nothing. There's a voice that controls you. Tell me a thing. Which person's talent is used to put you in that show?

No, no.

Talent is there.

By watching fights. That show is run by fights. Yes. And it gives you false information. It sets a false narrative. When you sleep watching that show at night.

Then fights are going fight in your dreams. If I was there, I would have said this, this, this. Like how Filza told you that if I was there, I would have said this, that. So same way, when you sleep at night, it happens that suppose my favorite is Basir.

If Nehal is fighting with Basir, then suppose Nehal said something very bad to Basir and Basir couldn't answer properly. So I'll be like, if I were him, I would have said this. So I'll keep thinking about it.

You'll keep thinking about it?

And I'll sleep like that. And I'll sleep like that. And the next day when I wake up, I'll be like... So what is it giving you? That this show is giving you stress? Psyche. Yes. In a way. Now people are liking you in Bigg Boss because of your fights. Are the audience liking you because of your fights?

I liked him for the first month and a half. I didn't like him as much as I liked him in the beginning. But it's not my core personality. I can't fight for 24 hours. Plus, if it is that Illuminati thing and everything. I have worshipped more outside than I do in real life.

That's why you got out of there early.

Exactly, brother. Exactly. Even if the world changes sides, before the lights off, I used to have a 30 minute section of worship. I have led the prayer with Amal. I and Avesh have led the prayer together.

Nagma was there. God stopped the energy to do something else with me. I was saved. I'm glad I got out early then. What if life changed? Did any of your team members tell you that you might be getting a slap? Not a slap, it was a very funny incident. I didn't find it funny.

Now I'll tell you what happened.

Yes, tell me.

And you tell me what happened. So, there was a captaincy task going on. I didn't find it funny. Now I'll tell you what happened. Yes, tell me. And you tell me what was it. So, there was a captaincy task going on. BB Dino Park. So, they have made such a big dinosaur at the main door. There is an area in front of it where everyone's eggs are lying.

There is a figure of a dinosaur on each egg. And everyone's name is written on it.

So, there are two cages and people have to come out of it.

Cut to...

Break is going on. The task is not on. There are six contestants' photos on the wall. Six contestants' photos are here. So, there is a contestant in front of me. And she is standing and admiring the photos. Tanya Mittal.

Oh!

Okay?

So, she is looking at the photo. I was walking from behind and I was like, what is she doing? I saw her looking at the photo. I said, I haven't noticed my photos.

I'll see them too.

Yes.

We are getting to see our own faces. I went. I stopped. I thought, if she moves, I'll go. She did this and that. Then she goes close to the picture. She touched my photo like this.

Yes.

And like this.

Oh!

I saw it. I said, is this what I am seeing?

Yes.

And then I said, what was this?

Yes.

She looks at me and says, nothing, you are looking very beautiful. She was looking at me. I went to the washroom.

Wasn't this before the elimination? I was just looking at you. I just went to the washroom. Was this before the elimination? It was a long time ago. A long time ago. But I was screwed that day.

Oh!

I was screwed that day.

Oh, my God!

Big Boss got angry with me that day. He took off the mic. I had a very bad experience that week.

Yes.

The one with Sursuri.

Yes. So, somewhere... Because, look... I can't question what she did or didn't do. Because I saw what I saw. Anything can happen in reality.

But she was very fond of reading.

Really?

She used to read something or the other every time. Okay.

Yes.

Like Ram Ram Ram Ram Ram. Officially, Everyone knows that officially. But otherwise also, she constantly chants. Okay. Like, Elaichi Pani, Juice. She used to read it sometimes so that if someone needs help, they can get some relief.

By the way, we don't read it and spit it out. Oh my God. We don't do that. I guess, it's the same in Muslims. Not like... They read it and this. They just accept it, but it's not official.

Okay. Like, you read the dua and you did it. But I'm reading it and spitting on you. I'm feeding you something.

This is weird.

She's a little out of this world. She's also very well-versed with all these things. So, God knows what she was trying. Whatever it was. Damn funny.

I'll have to ask her after coming out. I think I want to address it actually.

I was scared. I was like, she'll say anything. I'll look stupid on TV. She'll say anything. I wasn't doing this. How will I bring out that miming?

So that's why about Malati. How do you find Malati?

Not a very interesting character in my eyes.

Because according to me, the aura of a wild card...

The entry into a show like Bigg Boss...

clips, what is trending, what is not, which hashtag is flourishing, who is getting hate, who is bashing, who is fake, after doing all the homework, she looked like the black sheep. She didn't fit in. Then whenever she was made to sit on the hot seat, on the weekend bar, within the house,

within the housemates, on any quarrel,

she would have the most vague answers.

she is answering in 1, 2, 3, 4.

I didn't understand that. And the worst thing about Malti's

I was at home when she asked a question to Hamaal,

that do you think Baseer is straight? Yeah. Yes. She kept quiet. But there was something on her face. Yes.

Can you imagine that, bro?

So, there was this.

But I had a conversation with her. And this lady comes and sits next to me. She's like, you've lived a lot of life.

Why is she asking?

...that life is lived in many ways. And this girl is like... I've worked with them on shows and stuff. Yes. I said, what is this?

I said, is it about girls?

Because everything is outside. It's about your life. Okay. What is it about? Excuse me. She never said it. She said, I won't say it on the show. I'll say it after I go out. If I try to link this conversation to that. So maybe she has some information. Which she has believed to be true. And that's about me.

So she thought that she could bring it up on the show. If you are so courageous, Malati Chahar. You should have asked me. That's true.

Why were you trying to go to Kamal and question Baseer's sexuality?

Right.

You should have asked me. And the cameras are already recording. Your story has already reached the world. This is Malati's fault. Cut to. It was on the mic, on the camera.

Bigg Boss saw it. Salman sir knows it. Why didn't I get the call? I was on the show. I came out after two weeks of that. Why was I not told that somebody sitting in the house is questioning this? Address it. It's my game and my reputation. Someone is coming to your show and playing me on your media.

Why should I be a fool? And you deserve it. You should say that you are being called behind your back. Because no one else is saying it. Basically, the designers, choreographers, photographers... ...who we have worked with before.

So, their job is to gossip. You are finding out that this guy has gone in... ...and you are also going to go. This guy is this, this, this, this. You say it. The guy who does the modeling...

...the guy who has gone to the guy who got split. Some people say that he is definitely… He slept and came. He slept and came. He is gay.

Yes.

And my link was also…

I was also told. And we are those boys who have been tagged with girls

and our reputation has been tarnished.

Yes.

Womenizer, Casanova, Playboy, all of them. Where did the men come in this?

Nowadays, it's getting viral about Malti. That she is not straight.

Exactly. So ironic, bro. It is mind-blowing to see that the person who was questioning my sexuality, today her sexuality has been questioned on the show by so many contestants.

Yeah.

And I don't know why, but...

The way she looks at Farhana.

Farhana... There is some tension.

Yeah.

And I think even Farhana got it.

Yeah.

Other women are getting it.

Yeah.

We as audience are getting it.

Yeah.

And I'll be honest with you. Before all this, as soon as I came out, someone had already told me about this. Oh! That there is a scene of Malti. I can't believe that person either. I have not checked facts. I am not somebody to say it out loud.

Still I am not announcing it.

But someone has told me. I saw a reel yesterday. I saw a reel yesterday. I guess she has produced films there.

Oh yes!

Where she is the heroine also. She's confessing that she's a lesbian on that show as well.

I don't know. What kind of paradox is this? Abhimanyu, you are trapped in a wheel.

But it's okay. If she's not straight, we don't mind. Yeah, but be open about it. And if you wanted to reveal your sexuality, why are you dragging someone else? Yeah, that's what I think. Bro, do your thing. Okay, so who used to irritate you the most? I'll tell you now.

I haven't had so much hate from anyone. But I used to get irritated sometimes. So it was GK. Because I was expecting more. From the experience of life that he's coming. From the field of experience.

From so many reasons. Like he is the senior most actor there. You've done work for 20 years. You've done so many channels, shows. You've done multiple things. You're a celebrity, a MasterChef winner. I expect bloody good from you.

And when I used to fight with him... ...with all due respect to GK as well... ...I used to feel like... ...I'm fighting with a 7th or 8th grade kid. What? Very fragile ego. He would say, let me show you.

Come, let's see. Not clearly the same thing, but I could feel it from inside that he is getting so beat up with these little things. So, I could see it. And he would go into the washroom,

get upset, come back out. Obviously, I don't know how upset he would get in the washroom. But I could see that he is going and venting it out. Abhishek Bajaj came out and said that he used to cry in the washroom. I have seen it. I am not sure if he used to cry or not.

But he used to get upset and leave.

Okay.

So, speaking of GK, then don't act like a hero in front of us. Because you are either this or that. So, GK, Bajaj... I like some things about Bajaj.

But it was a little annoying. Tell us.

Like there was a task of captaincy. He had to put two legs in one shoe and make a puzzle. Bajaj was the controller in that one round. Yes. And this guy started doing live commentary. And only Bajaj's voice was heard. It was hot outside. There was no AC. It was evening time in the garden area.

It was sunny and Bajaj was talking nonstop. And everyone was like, shut him up. So, Bajaj was like a loudspeaker. Sometimes you are low on energy and then Bajaj gets up and starts talking and you are like, bro, just shut this guy. Because he was also a little childish,

a little lame, fake. He wasn't fake.

He is not a fake person. I said this in the last podcast.

You can say this to the people of Delhi. That he is really like this.

I know this guy. We did a-vote. We have been talking on the phone. We keep meeting. I am talking about 2012. When I started, then he also started. I went to do a Gillette ad.

Oh, he also did Gillette ad. He was with me in the ad. So, we are friends since then. We are not that close. But yes, I know him.

Was he like this?

He is a a special friend. But yes, I know him. Was he like this? He is a chilled person. The way he is talking. Free flow. He is not a thud. Now, for comparison, I have his pre-personality.

The feeling.

I bought it for face value. And then I kept a soft side with him. To a point, one week…

I don't even remember which day it was. I was sitting in the kitchen area doing shopping.

And I told him in my own way,

you do that.

He said, you are so weird.

Naturally I want to be like this.

If you are a finger player, then you fight and fight.

Bajaj, GK, Tanya.

Tanya tops the charts.

While talking, in the middle of eye contact... ...she looks at me like this. My garden area is as big as Bigg Boss' house. Do you know the size of the hut? It's as big as our golden fountains. We have golden fountains in the garden.

So, you don't have a phone. You don't have a way to check facts.

You can't go online.

How do you know?

We don't have a phone. We can't see the facts either. Surprisingly, we didn't get that house. We got that golden fountain. This happens only in Dubai. The kings and queens have it.

I'll tell you another funny story.

Yes.

Baklava story is very funny.

Yes.

We go to Dubai.

Baklava is a big thing. If a person has gone to eat baklava so many times, then only he will flex. Yes. Malati came home. She asked me how many times I've gone to eat Baklava. Yes. I said, twice or thrice. She asked me if I flex so much that I go twice or thrice.

I said no. GK gets up from the middle. GK says, forget all this.

Tell me the name of the place where you eat Baklava in Dubai. Tell me the name of the shop.

He is a history witness.

He has never mentioned the name. Okay. Taniya has never told me that she is a fool. Because she doesn't know herself.

You can watch it.

You are right.

Very funny. Very cute.

This is.

Okay. Very interesting. What else does she say? Hypothetical situations. Taniya has done a lot of such things. We used to catch her.

That's the thing about her. We used to catch her, but we didn't know if she was going to the world or not. That's when I told Salman sir on my last eviction day. Sir, with all due respect, what you are saying is fine, but we stay with her for 24 hours. We can see what's going on. And we are able to see that or not. So, I worked against that. That Baseer is affecting the narrative too much.

He is talking too much. How did you feel about Salman sir?

It was a good experience.

Do you want to speak the truth? I felt that boys like me, they don't like him. I really feel that. Because I have seen in the previous seasons that there are some types of personalities that don't resonate with them.

I used to see that when he was like that with Asim.

Yes.

He used to take names with a smile, he used to comment on clothes.

He was fun. I enjoyed it. Genuinely, having seen all that and coming into Bigg Boss and being in front of him and being called out like that, I used to find it playful. If we are talking to each other, he is talking to me in a fun way. He comments on my clothes.

So, when he used to call me Basseer, I used to like it. He even abused me in a few places which weren't on TV. I once said in a joke, what body should I show in front of Tiger Bhai? The real Tiger is standing here. He is standing behind me.

I was like, you were there. Everyone was laughing.

That...

...you are addressing the other Tiger in front of Tiger. Not the main Tiger. So, that was something. So, I had a good equation. But I didn't feel the importance. We have done reality shows.

When we move ahead in a show, we know if the show is about us or not. In Splitsvilla, you knew when you were sitting on the throne of the king that the show is about you.

Yes.

I am here, so this is here.

Yes.

And all these people want to sit here because I am sitting here. Otherwise, the value of this throne would have been down. Correct. We take motivation from our experience. That is our fuel to the drive. Right. Right, bro?

Yes.

Coming from that, being in Bigg Boss, I'm not getting that. I'm feeling that people are talking to me with applause. They are asking me about my deeds. They are praising me. What am I doing here? So, I started getting demotivated by not getting that feeling.

And I didn't get that push from Salman sir. I didn't get that push from Big Boss team. Big Boss is the host of our house. They deserve to boost people. Any job, whether we are a driver, a cook, a boy, a chef. How will anyone work without appreciation? So many people come to me and leave.

Just because I am not able to give it back to them. But you don't want your image to be good. If he will appreciate you, he will come on camera. Everyone will see you and say that Salman sir praised you. He is a good person. Because the narrative is made only when Salman sir speaks well about someone.

If he is saying something bad, the narrative is made. So tell me, this has been sabotaged with our life, fame and popularity. Yes, of course.

Even in the biggest way.

Of course.

Because we are doing something that deserves praise, but we don't get the praise.

Yes, we won't get it.

Then why did you take us there?

You are born. On a reality show. One quality of Bigg Boss that I have seen and understood. Yeah. There are two groups. Every time. Two groups.

Majority or minority.

One group has a king and queen. The other group has a king and queen. So this king and queen is a game of four people. Yes. They are fighting each other. The groups behind them are fighting for them.

Okay.

Now, these people have made you a pawn. Whereas the pawns, the soldiers, they are presenting them as the king and queen. And mostly, they do this.

Every time.

Every time.

Mostly, this happens.

And somewhere, I feel like... We have been used till the point where we felt that their journey doesn't align with our journey.

Remove it.

Salman sir used to like me a lot.

Good equation.

From the very first day. I had said something bad about Salman sir in the third week. He used to say that Salman is a very bad person. Because we are not getting importance. Others are getting importance. Others are getting importance.

Because they are doing wrong. And they are supp their importance. They are doing wrong things. And we are being suppressed. So I was like, I am not able to speak. I was like, chik-chik-chik. Thank God, he had a sore throat that day. Because it was Diwali.

So he couldn't scream or fight. But he showed me the footage. That you said it. I said, I am not able to concentrate. But still he was okay with me. He was very fine with me. So one day he came inside the house when Shahnaz was crying. So he came inside and he said to me,

Paras, there are three sims in one phone. I like it. I like it. Now what was that? Three sims means one is inside. Sorry, two are inside. Inside Big Boss, the two that were running.

One is outside. So he said, three Sim. He was very happy. And the next week we had another fight. I told you that he speaks in his ears. The iconic one. The one that he says, we had a fight. After the fight, Salman sir is like,

once you have a fight, don't talk to him.

That's the equation.

He says, I spoke to you. You can speak only when you are asked to. Yes, they silence you. But I must have been making love to them. Because they knew that I was speaking.

The best thing is that they say that to us in the end. I am just here to do my job. It's not personal.

Because he is a host. He charges a lot for that. And he doesn't watch Bigg Boss at all. Exactly. What is said in the ears, what is shown, that is what happens.

I also felt that how much involvement is there, how much is not there, it is a little bit visible. Because you are so involved in the game, 24 hours, you know the details.

Right.

And when you don't talk about the details, then you know that all this is being done from above. And from above, that situation is being sorted. ...sorting out the situation. If you are not a favourite of the channel... ...or the makers or something... ...you are going to feel like us.

I will tell you a small thing. If you have watched the entire season 13... ...think about one thing. I never say this. But today I will say it in a way. When I injured my finger... ... I went out for the operation.

It was a trauma operation. I had put a rod in my finger. It was a trauma operation because the injury I had got a month ago was not healing. So, as soon as the doctor saw it, he said that it was a trauma operation. It needs to it right now. Otherwise, the strength here... The nerve that is causing the nerve here...

It has gone to here. It can go to here as well. So you have to cut your hand completely from here. It was a big operation. It was a 2.5-inch operation. I was lying there in the hospital. No TV, no nothing.

I was just counting the drops. I was counting the drops. When I came back after Bigg Boss was over, what did I see? The Bigg Boss people showed Shukla's typhoid very well. They showed it very well that he has typhoid.

They took him to the hospital. He is talking with Salman He has typhoid. He was taken to the hospital. He is talking with Salman sir on the bed of the hospital. On the weekend. Why didn't he show me? The whole set up.

Why didn't he show me? Why didn't he bring a camera for me?

Because the show wasn't for you.

Because I wouldn't get the sympathy. The show wasn't for you. The show wasn't for me. And the biggest thing, I say, ever since I came back after the finger operation, Salman sir never asked me how is my finger.

He put a rod in my hand. I had a huge bandage on my hand. I used to move my hand like this. That bandage was there for a month. He didn't even ask once, how is your injury?

Why? Why?

Because he had ordered from behind. He didn't want to ask. He didn't want sympathy. He didn't want sympathy.

I get it. But it's true that if they don't want to address something, they don't want people to highlight it, they will not show it. I am Avicua. My Farhana, Amal, Shaibaz, Neelam, Farhana, GK Bajaj, Praneet Roya is with me.

At my exit. He didn't show up for a second. He didn't show a single tear. He didn't show up for the last time I spoke to anyone. Why? Because I was out. Baseer was already out on social media.

Everyone knew about it. They didn't show it in the episode because then the sympathy card was out. They didn't want to show it. They know what control they have.

Right.

They know what they have to allow and what not. Because of which the show will get and the contestants will get. And they are always going to control that.

Yeah. That control they will never let go. Just see, there was a huge audience like Mridul. They couldn't get rid of him. So, how did they get rid of him? Home votes.

Yeah.

The same thing was done in our season. Khaisari. No one could defeat Khaisari in Big Boss. He was on his side. They got rid of him like that. The same trick. Obviously. What do you think? Does votes matter?

Bro, it would be better if you don't ask me. I have heard stories like this. The day our nomination was shot... ...on Monday or Tuesday... ...it was decided that me and Nihal will be out. I heard this from outside.

I thought, votes were not even casted that day. Because the episode was not't even on TV. Votes don't matter. If votes really mattered, we wouldn't have fired Mridul. We would have fired all the people. Then I think that votes are only for hits on websites. That is the number.

That makes money.

You will sell it and get sponsors. Obviously. So that is the business. That we get it.

But where is the reality in reality? There is no reality. Where is it? And the people who are doing great fake shows are made. It's a rigged show. Winners are already decided. Already controlled. It's not scripted. It's rigged.

Rigged means that the makers are doing it from behind. To understand that better, I can say that when crores of rupees are being spent on a show worth 100 crores. It's a show on Hazar Road. It's worth hundreds of crores. 15 contestants who are new to the show...

...won't be able to give a show.

That's true. They will have to control it.

Hundreds of crores are flowing in and out.

Absolutely.

So, a lot of decisions are taken in that control... ...which are not in the favour of contestants or artists like us.

So, their products are somebody else. Their selling points are somebody else. You and I are brother, drivers of the show. Yeah. We take the car ahead. If it wasn't for us,

there would have been a parking brake. The car would have been sitting on the stall.

And the blame would have been on us.

Exactly. Because we can only take the risk. To stand up in front of so many people and say, I don't think you guys are right. And then after that... But I think, all in all, we made it happen. I think to be able to do so many reality shows is also a courageous thing in itself.

Because one should have the courage to make

a football of his own again and again.

Absolutely.

When we came for the first time, not everybody knew us. We didn't have a lot to lose, Paras bhai. But every time we went back after the first time... We made a football of all our work, decisions, experiences and kept it in the ground. And we were told to play.

And then new newcomers come in. Who do not have a lot to lose. But they are ready to throw a lot of dirt on you. You have been through a lot of splits and all. I have been through a lot. So, we are fighters for life. We won't stop.

Absolutely.

New things will come. And that's one thing I wanted to round up. Big Boss does what they do for their show. Who will think about us? The audience we have. The social media era, the followers,

the era we are in this era. Where our voice is our army. We have our own. After all this sacrifice, what are you coming back to? A little bit of money?

It's going to go away in two, three months.

Yes.

But what we have accumulated is the audience.

Yes. And they have seen what we are discussing right now. The things that people have ignored. Things that we didn't think in our favor. Things that we didn't think in our interest. They all love us after seeing our audience.

So, our victory is bigger than that.

True.

And I am glad that we are coming here with the right decisions. Without such big channels. Without such big reality or OTT platforms. Without their support, we are still here. Thank God. We are enjoying. Without her support, I am still happy. The world loves me.

My people and my family are proud of me. All my 300 friends, it doesn't matter, are proud of me. I think we are winning in life.

Yes.

I am getting my share.

I don't care about the rest.

Very good. This is a very good thought. And keep this thought in mind. This is a very good thought. We are like this and we are good like this.

Yeah.

Now, one thing. I'll ask the last question. I remembered it from Alam Dholila. How spiritual are you? How much do you practice? What is spirituality?

First of all. What is spirituality? I think it's finding the true meaning of life via nature, meditating, prayer, things larger than human bodies. The world we live in, the universe around us, to relate to something like this and then reach a higher self is what I think is spirituality.

Whatever the medium is, but to be able to connect with your higher self. So, I feel like it's your thoughts.

Everything is your thoughts. Right. Whatever is going on in your mind will show you the way. Absolutely.

So, I might not be the most practicing Muslim guy out there. But I'm extremely God-loving.

Okay.

People say that you should fear God. Yes.

I do fear God, but I love God a lot.

Yes.

When I tell my mom what's in my heart, like, Mom, what are you saying? I've spoken to God, He will do this to me. My mom laughs and says, you think of God as a child. God is a big thing. So, you can't treat him. I said, it's my relationship with God. In my head, I treat him like a best friend.

I say, God, do this for me. I don't know.

I need this. You take care of it. Absolutely.

So, that's my relationship. I am very God-loving. I may not be practicing as much as I said. It was very difficult to shake me off my faith. Very good. When did you go to Mecca? I had my first visit in 2014. I was very young. I went with a half heart.

Because I was told that if you go, you have to wash all your sins. So you have to be clean from there. I was like, is this the age to be clean? I was not even 18 years old. And you guys are asking me to clean?

Okay. Okay. But I enjoyed the experience. The stone that we were talking about,

the stone that we have to kiss the Holy Prophet.

Yes.

So many times, everyone in my family has gone there. No one has been allowed to touch it. In my first and only visit, I kept my face in the middle of the Holy Prophet, prayed for him and took his blessing I have kept my mouth shut, prayed and got out of there without a push.

Right.

So, that was a call. And it was important for me to see that in that age because I didn't know I was going to see all this. For me to be strong with my faith in this part of my life,

I had to be there then.

Okay.

I understood that. I have come from that path. That's when I know.

So, when do you have to go to to thank her? Right now, God willing. I'm planning to do it with my mom in February. In Ramadan, her benefits multiply by 70.

Yes.

One reward is 70 times more.

I went to Ajmer right after the show.

Isn't there Umrah there?

There is Umrah.

No, right now.

There is Umrah.

There is only Hajj in Bakrid. Okay. In Ramadan, there is Umrah. Will you do it today or in your next life? I have to do it once in my life. I have to do it before I die. But how do we know when we are going to die?

I thought I would do it with my wife. I am not getting married. I am waiting for it.

You just said that you will get so many offers. As in I should find the right person. I should get the right environment. Because it can't be done by putting in effort. It should click. It should happen. Definitely. Every project of my life, every good thing that has happened to me, never thought, never planned, never expected,

never saw it coming. It comes, we deal with it, make a plan,

and we go.

We are going somewhere else. First tell me, if you do Hajj, you will have to become bald.

I will.

You will? Will you? Will you? Will your wife have to do it? No. For ladies. Ladies don't have to do it? For men. Okay, she just wears clothes.

She has to tie her hair.

If she cuts a few hairs, it's fine.

Okay. But Hajj is a very difficult journey. It's going to be very challenging. No matter how rich you are, you're going to be treated as a normal Hajji. You can buy a package worth crores. You won't get any treatment. You'll just get an AC and a bed. But I want to experience those difficulties with my wife. I want to see how that tuning comes out. And in front of Allah, in the most difficult times,

how we move forward while balancing those things. That has been in my mind since childhood. So, if I get a chance before that, I'll go with my mom.

But I've thought about it with my wife. Very good. Very good. Yes, brother. May God bless you.

Amen.

And may your prayers be answered.

Amen.

And may you be blessed.

Amen.

You are also very spiritual. And may you keep moving forward.

Amen, brother. Both of us.

Yes.

And may you keep moving forward.

We.

And may you keep sharing positivity with his friends and family. He has been sharing positivity with his fans and audience. By the way, he is also opening his YouTube channel.

Oh, yes.

Because it is very important to do YouTube. In TVBV, I don't think anyone...

It's the biggest platform in the world. The number one platform on social media is YouTube. Which is also giving you the full authority, freedom to do whatever you want. Make whatever you want under the circumstance.

Yes.

I mean guidelines. But, yeah, there is nothing greater than this for us. So, we will do this in free flow, God willing.

Yes.

We have already reached 120k. So, I am really happy about it. We received a parcel just before you came.

And we got our golden button yesterday. Wow! I'll show you. Bump, show me the golden button.

Wow!

I got it yesterday.

Golden button.

Bump, give me the button from yesterday.

Here it is.

Ta-da!

I got the golden button.

Abracadabra!

Abracadabra!

Thank you. You look so pretty. I wasn't feeling happy. I thought I should have got a diamond.

You will get it.

You know, there is a big box, you open it and get a diamond. So how did I get this? It came in a normal box. I saw it, I have silver. I thought it will be the same packing.

We will open it and make a video. But this is also good. Thank you. Congratulations. Thank you, brother. Thank you. Thank you, guys.

Achievements.

See, YouTube, you make people like us so happy. With these little things.

These milestones make us so happy. So, thank you, YouTube India. YouTube out there. I keep thinking that where were we going 5 years ago? Until Digital India came, we used to say... Let's sign a channel. Until Digital India came, we used to say that some channel should sign it.

Sony should sign it. Or some colour should sign it. Or Star Plus should sign it. Today it's our own channel.

People are so interested, bro.

10 lakh people are with you. People are so much interested. Channel people should understand that we have an audience. We are doing some fraud that people are leaving. But no problem. No problem. We should take them. We are doing something that people are leaving. Yeah. Yeah.

But it's okay.

It's okay. We will do it ourselves.

This is the new wave. This is what I was saying. For example, after doing Bigg Boss, I realized that

there was a time for this too.

Yes.

There are so many new reality shows now.

Yes.

Traitors. Like a new concept out there. Rise and fall. New concept out there. So many shows are coming up. So, it's not like the industry is dead. This was going to be my final journey, Big Boss. But now I'm coming out and seeing that there are more shows.

These are social media shows, right?

Yes.

It's doing well. Why not? People like us who like being on reality shows are getting more.

Should we go on Traitors? Let's go. But let me tell you something about traitors. We'll be the first ones to remove them. We'll be the first ones to remove them. People who look smart, they have to be removed first. Look at Raj Kundra, Mukesh Jhavra,

and Raksha Bandhan, Karan Kundra. All of these people.

Yeah.

Just because they look like a player, a high player, a player, they are removed. So that show won't be for us. Just to go and have fun. But we will go. Yes, yes. We will go. Guys, if you guys are looking out for this casting stuff, you know who to call. Both the boys are ready. Last time they called me.

But I said, I don't want to do any reality show. If you want, make me a host. Then I can come. They said, there year you will be saying that I have to do it.

I said, let's make a reality show on YouTube.

That's all planned.

Let's discuss.

That's why I am saying, increase your YouTube channel.

Yes.

So guys, we need your support. Support Bhai. And give us a lot of views by subscribing. Like we make our own show.

Thank you, Bh brother. Thank you.

Yes, it's just the beginning and we are going to… This is the first time we are sitting together and having such beautiful conversations. We have less time for our conversation.

But it's okay. We will do another podcast.

Anytime, brother. It's a family thing. I stay away from you for 15 minutes. Whenever you call me.

You are coming here, right? Yes. So, it was a lot of fun in today's podcast. Thank you for coming. Anytime, brother.

Lovely.

Okay.

Thank you for having me.

Thank you for watching, guys. Thank you for watching, guys. Stay tuned for great content.