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BOBON PILIH MUNDUR‼️ YA SAYA KECEWA.. Terimakasih Semuanya..

BOBON PILIH MUNDUR‼️ YA SAYA KECEWA.. Terimakasih Semuanya... - Bobon Santoso

Deddy Corbuzier

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0:00

You're not alone. I'm here for you. I'm here for you. I'm here for you.

0:24

I'm here for you. I'm here for you. And close the door. I'm serious. If it can be sold, it will be sold. So, from the beginning, I was confused, sad, stressed, but I supported.

1:13

So, my YouTube account has 18 million, almost 20 million. 18, almost 18 million.

1:20

Almost 18 million subscribers. The total number of videos is 917 videos. The content was in the beginning in 2018. The number of views is already in the billions. The number of views is in the billions. And you want to sell YouTube for 20 billion.

1:36

Is that price suitable?

1:40

Actually, if you count the price of 20 billion internationally, it's not enough.

1:48

It's cheap.

1:50

But if you count it by purchasing power, it's two different things. I'm shocked. Why? Is this serious or gimmick?

2:02

Serious.

2:03

So, it's a promise?

2:04

A promise from YouTube. gimmick? Serious. So, it's a warning? Warning. Warning from YouTube.

2:06

YouTube only?

2:07

YouTube only. YouTube only. And I think I'm not... Actually, YouTube has been a burden for me. A burden? Yes, YouTube has been a burden for me. Because it's not easy to make a YouTube content

2:21

that has a long duration, 15 minutes or more, or maybe an hour, with the content that I cook. I created a pattern that I think is wrong and can't grow well in Indonesia.

2:36

Define wrong and can't grow well. Is the view okay?

2:39

The view is okay. Millions of views. The view is okay. What makes me feel wrong is that I have to create content that is too expensive. Too expensive for a video. Even though the impact is wider and bigger.

2:57

Are you talking about your content in Papua, Aceh, or where? Or the content you make every time has to be big? Because I'm already identical with cooking. As you know, Om Dad, my content was a mess. I fixed it all. I hope that my better and more positive activities

3:16

are my rituals to cleanse my sins. I used to teach people to get drunk. Throw away their food. Then I got the content that I thought was suitable and liked. But after I kept developing it, the pattern became more and more messy for me.

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3:37

Emotionally, creatively, and time-wise.

3:41

Wait, that's why I have a question. Which content is this? The cooking one. Yes, yes's why I'm asking, which content is this? The cooking content. Yes, yes. In terms of emotion, which one? When you went to Papua, when you went to Aceh, when you went where?

3:51

Or all the content you make now, it's not worth it to be made? Actually, it's not not worth it to be made. But we're back again, we're pulling back again. Every activity that definitely need a budget. It must need a fee. Well, it turns out that I have given up on myself

4:12

to pay too much.

4:14

And there is no sponsor, help, etc.

4:16

Sponsor all this time because I'm a conventional YouTuber. I only hope of course from endorsement, from the brand. From the brand that supports if in one month you get 3 or 4, I can close it. So, we have a subsidy on the day off, I can cook up to 5 times, 10 times. In the past, I cooked very often. In one week, I cooked 3 times.

4:37

And now there are no brands? Or are they all down? I think it's not that there's none, but it's going down.

4:44

It's going down. I think it's not that there's none, but it's going down. It's going down.

4:45

Before, it was already told to Farida, that now there are a lot of brands that are struggling too. And they have also, maybe in a different way, to promote their brands too. Because now it's already a brand.

5:01

It has to sell, the yellow line.

5:03

Yes, and YouTube already has that feature. But I don't think we are not the only one.

5:09

Live.

5:10

I think we are not the only one. But, sorry, my question is this. But, does the local government help?

5:19

No. No? No. We are purely looking for it ourselves. We are purely collaborating with brands. Actually, I am very open to it. For example, I can only give you food for 1 ton. I accept it. Because my goal is to bring the end result to the people.

5:42

So, my question is, does the local government help you? No, they don't. For the activities, they don't. But, several times, the local government invited us to cook. For certain contents, for certain activities, they do. There's a collaboration.

5:58

So, you're hired to make the content or cook for them. Maybe they invite musicians, a musician, singing. Same thing. So, it's also entertaining for the people. But, it's not like in Papua, the Ministry of Defense, the army, the TNI, etc. They help. Not in terms of budget.

6:22

They help in terms of access and so on. Access and also our Access and our soldiers also helped us a lot. So, we want to thank you too. Before we end our activities, like the cooking of Kuala Limerah Putih that we brought from Papua, almost all provinces, Aceh, NTT, Kalimantan, and the border.

6:45

We have cleared all the three borders of Indonesia and three countries. We have cleared all of them. We hoped that this episode would be long-term. But it's very difficult because the production cost is very high.

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7:01

I have a few questions. First, if the government, for example, our friends in TNI, and the Ministry of Defense, we had a chat at the Ministry of Defense, it might help in the process, in everything. Right?

7:17

Yes.

7:17

Okay.

7:18

Does it mean that the content is not worth it and it's a burden are suffering economically and mentally? Mental is number one. Mental is number one. Number one is mental. If it's economy, it's a little bit.

7:33

Maybe every month is 20-30%. Because I still cover it. I can still cover it with other activities. But it's more to mental, in my opinion. But in the end, you have to take the cost from others to cover it up. Yes, that's one of the impacts.

7:50

Because it's not worth it to do it because there's no plus value for us.

7:55

Mentally?

7:55

Mentally, I feel like I'm stuck. When I started to be a YouTuber, I started as a content creator from YouTube. So, I had a scenario that I was a machine that made videos on YouTube. I made videos on YouTube and kept on developing it.

8:17

From experiments to cooking. I cooked around. After that, I felt the pressure was too high. So, we came to the area, not just to watch Bobon cooking. But it was a chance to meet Bobon.

8:39

It was a chance to hear what delivered from them to the central government. And this has been done many times. Even in Papua, all their aspirations are poured into us. And we can't...

8:57

Suddenly talk.

8:59

Yes, we are right. We are humble. We feel guilty even if we are humble. Because we are trying to be an honest content creator.

9:06

So, you want to talk to the government or to anyone,

9:09

but you're being humble. Minimally, I'm exposing myself on social media. If Om Dead sees my social media, there must be a lot of people's aspirations and demands. Whether it's good or bad for the government, we show it. That my job is done as a content creator.

9:28

But we also deliver their aspirations and it's successful.

9:33

So, it's successful. So, it means that there is no more Kuala Merah Putih for Papua and so on. There is no more.

9:42

For the long format, maybe it's not there anymore. For the long format, it's not there anymore. Maybe I will find another way. Because I still have social media like Instagram. Also on TikTok. Even if I just want to post it on Facebook, it's also possible.

9:59

No, no, no. What I mean is, will you still do the same thing you did yesterday for your friends in a certain area? Or the whole content will change? A bobon will change the content? If it's to change the content, no.

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10:16

So, if it's still cooking, yes, Om Ded. And in the kitchen, I also try to keep my promise. I cook from Merauke to Sabang. I try to do it every day. I still don't understand. What's the difference between when you're still doing it,

10:30

and the cost will be the same?

10:32

I think, first, in terms of time range. If I go to Papua, I've been like this. If I go to Papua, I've been like this. If I go to Papua, my first thought is, how can we make a cool episode?

10:51

A long episode, a long duration, Kuala Merah Putih. But if I close my YouTube account, I have sold my YouTube account, I don't have any burden to make an episode that lasts 40-50 minutes. The duration of the duration is so long.

11:08

The editing process is so long. It can even be up to a month. I think it's an incredible burden for me. Because we are tired of our energy, our mind, our coordination, and our time. But when we go home,

11:23

we have to finish the unfinished tasks.

11:26

It's not done yet. We have additional tasks.

11:28

Additional tasks.

11:29

But for other things like social media, you can do it roughly with your phone.

11:34

Right.

11:35

Roughly. Yes. And I've done that too. Like what I posted recently, I clarified about the meat that I brought 300 kg, it was weather-related and I couldn't. That's enough with just a mobile phone.

11:47

The delivery is enough. Because people who see it as a quick content. Clippers now that are out and so on, people who take your content and so on, does it affect you? That's positive and negative, right? In my opinion.

12:03

It affects, one, maybe the promotion or what you do. But second, it attracts viewers, right?

12:08

It attracts viewers too. Promoting is also good, in my opinion, Clipper. But behind that, Clipper is actually useful to get more value. For example, sometimes we also like Clipper, but there is an advertisement that is not. For example, what advertis. For example, what kind of ads.

12:26

Not to mention the ads. We also know that they produce from our videos. That's what we feel is very unfortunate.

12:35

Okay, Bro.

12:37

When you are in a certain area, wherever it is, which is maybe a little less noticed or more exposed. Do the people expect help?

12:50

Of course, Om Det. All this time, there are many people who have watched my program, Bobon's visit with Kuala Limerah Putih. And what Bobon usually does at the location we come from. Usually we cook, share the food, and also provide assistance. Of course, the people will come and tell us.

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13:10

We have a church that can be helped. Like Bobon helped in this church before. There is a school that can be renovated. Like Bobon has helped schools before.

13:19

Wow, that's crazy. You're so responsible.

13:22

So, you're not like that. Yes, and we are sometimes confused.

13:26

Where does the money come from?

13:27

Yes, because the production of Kuala Limerang Putih 1 episode is 100-150 million. And the video is not closed. Even though it's watched 2 million times, it's not closed.

13:39

Now, everything is down. The ads are down, right?

13:41

Down. Down by about 50%.

13:45

50%?

13:46

Yes, 50%. So, it doesn't cover the bug. With that kind of cost, even though Adsense is still stable, Omdet doesn't cover it. At least in 2 million views, it's stable, maybe 20-30 million.

13:58

Now it's maybe 10.

13:59

10 million. It doesn't cover it. So, we worked with several brands. Even though the payment was not maximal, at least it was covered 50%, 30%.

14:10

Okay.

14:16

What was the ending that made you... What was the tipping point? I was tired. Because of the mental energy, money, and cover. Actually, money is also a mental thing. We have to cover this, and that.

14:34

No one has asked for help. If you don't help, you're wrong. If you're thinking, you're not helping. If you're helping a homeless person, you have to look for help. So, everything is actually about money. It's all about mental.

14:46

And then, the complaints of the people there. Maybe the food is running out. Suddenly, there's a kid who's not happy. It's all about mental, basically. But what makes you... I'll stop here.

15:00

Because I feel like I'm carrying too much burden.

15:03

I feel like I was close to you.

15:05

But I didn't know there was a story like that.

15:08

I mean, I felt like I was carrying a heavy burden. I've given all my creativity, my time. I made it difficult to go to those areas. Even...

15:19

You were alive.

15:20

Yes, I was alive. Like the helicopter that was shot. That's right. We went to Papua Pegunungan, Pegunungan Bintang, where the helicopter was shot twice. With 19 bullet holes in the heli. We were hoping...

15:35

We just got home a week or two weeks ago. We were hoping we wouldn't get shot. Because that area was still a black zone. And at the end of last year, there was a victim. The victim of... It was viral when Ombred found out that there was a nurse.

15:52

A nurse or a teacher who wanted to be f***ed by the KKB.

15:56

In that area.

15:57

That was a long time ago.

15:58

It was a long time ago. The one who jumped into the ravine.

16:00

Yes, yes. It was a long time ago.

16:02

In that area. Andi, that area. And you went there? And I went there. I went there, yeah, like that. What else?

16:06

I haven't gotten an answer yet.

16:07

What's the tipping point?

16:08

I'm tired.

16:09

I'll just post it.

16:10

I'm tired. I'm tired. I'm tired of posting. Actually, a lot of friends have asked.

16:14

From friends from Kemhan, like, is it true, Bon? We want to answer it simply. We are tired of answering it. But since we are on this podcast, this is the only thing we can say here. That we are very tired.

16:40

It doesn't mean we are not grateful, we can help. Because it's a blessing, Om Dad. We can come to the community, and the community really likes our visit. This is a blessing. It's not that I don't want to, actually. I just feel like I'm limited.

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16:55

I'm limited. This Bobon is limited. With limited resources. I might be able to invite my friends, brands, entrepreneurs, and limited. I might be able to invite Om Det. I can invite my friends, brands, entrepreneurs, and it's limited. I can invite my uncle, Uncle, please help me. Do you want to donate for our brothers who can't eat?

17:08

100 million. Maybe my uncle will give it. But, the scope is limited too. And I can't do it continuously. And it's tiring too, maybe. If you want to do something, you have to look for it here first, look for it here first, ask for it here first, ask for it there first. It's okay for 1-2 content, but if you keep asking for more, people will keep asking for more.

17:25

It's wrong. It's wrong, so it's all wrong. Okay, Ben. But the content will still be the same, or will you go back to being more pure, thinking about how creativity becomes a content creator with a new version?

17:41

Which one is it, actually?

17:43

Actually, for the new version of content creator, no. Just the pattern to post it, in my opinion, maybe I have to change it. If I used to go to Papua, the platform is of course one video, the focus is only one video, one episode, one video.

17:58

Break it.

17:59

Okay, on YouTube it's done. On YouTube it's done in a duration of 40 minutes, 50 minutes. One post is done. It's done on YouTube with a duration of 40-50 minutes. One post is done. In the future, I want to come to a certain area and cook. But I can do a lot of things. I can do a lot of things.

18:12

I can make 10 posts with one of my activities there. In the real version or TikTok. So, you made a long video first. A long video first.

18:20

Then you did a lot of things.

18:21

Then I did a. Now I don't want to be burdened with my long videos. Because I need a team that is quite hardworking. Not to mention, if we go home, we have to edit it for a long time. So, the real execution is with a recorded phone.

18:37

It's uploaded right away.

18:38

It's uploaded right away. Posting, it's uploaded right away. I cook, it's uploaded right away. The views are the same. The views are the same. 2 million, 3 million, 10 million. I even just brought a kuali to Heli. Yesterday, the views were 10 million.

18:50

That's just a phone recording. On YouTube, it's almost 1 million. It's so hard. Not yet, our creativity must be poured out. When I go home, I didn't rest at home. I was physically tired. Maybe my team was sick.

19:09

Then we had to be asked to fill in the voiceover. VO. Voiceover for that activity. We had to choose extra. Sometimes we need a few days to think about a voiceover that is suitable for our time there. I see that your voiceover is not just a normal voiceover.

19:29

It's a voiceover that has to be written first, thought about first, there can't be any mistakes. The details. Well, all of that... Sorry, I'm asking you, is all of that creativity in your brain or from the team? In me. 90% in me.

19:44

That's why I feel like I lost a lot of things. Especially from my family. I rarely accompanied my son. In a month, I can only do half of it outside of the city.

19:57

There is a question from my team. How about your team? I think that question represents them. I have question from my team. How is your team's luck? I think that's a question for them.

20:06

I've talked to my team too. I said, yeah, yeah. This is Omnidot's team too. So actually, I've talked to my team. So when I posted, they were a bit shocked when I saw it in the morning.

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20:23

So you didn't talk to your team?

20:25

No, I didn't. It was in the middle of the night.

20:27

You're crazy.

20:28

You were in the middle of the night, you haven't answered me since earlier. What made you post? Because we like to be sudden, Om. Actually, in my opinion, this is a burden that I have borne for a long time. Okay, posting, it's It's time to release it. And it was released. So, I took the burden.

20:47

I was actually inspired by the creativity to cook this dish since last year. Om Dede, you told me that you were confused. You cooked this dish but it was this big. I think I was too good at it. I was too good at it. It was too high. A level that is too high.

21:06

It's hard to step back. I've told my team that I can still pay you in the next 3 years. I can still do it. But you're over... Over team, yes. You're over the top?

21:23

Not over the top. If there are 20 people, you can just take it with your phone. You can just edit it with your phone. If it's too much, I still don't think so. Because we still cook with our program. Oh, because your team is down on the spot.

21:46

I also brought 7-8 people to cook. And the assistant chef too. So, we still come with cooking.

21:55

Okay.

21:57

And we hope that even though we have an Instagram platform, TikTok, we can still grow. Because we are sure, Om Red, we are sure that there is no content like this that we want to do. Content like this, the cost is too high. We hope that we are still an option.

22:14

My question is, what if the brand is going down? With the content you make, with the same capital and so on, the brand too. Is it possible that by stopping YouTube, in terms of economy,

22:29

everything will be closed?

22:32

If, for example, so far, if you get 3-5 brands in a month, it's still closed. Well, if for the time being, 3-5 brands for YouTube are not closed? For YouTube too, it's still closed, actually, Om Ded.

22:46

What's the difference?

22:47

The tiredness? The tiredness. When I have to make YouTube content, I can't do anything.

22:56

What did you lose?

22:58

Time, of course. Time with my children, family. And also... And also, also from a mental perspective. Because those were the things that people asked me to do. After that, they also asked us to come here. We became a challenge for them.

23:20

After we finished in Aceh Tamiang, there was a natural disaster in another place. For example, we were looking for was Bobon. And then, from here, there was... And if you didn't go, it was wrong. It was wrong.

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23:33

Why did you go there?

23:34

At that time, you didn't go there. Public demand for us was high. So, it's not content creator anymore, Om Dad. The aura has changed. It's our community service. But, Bon, this is a question for you.

23:54

There's something funny. I know you as Bobon. Outside of having NKRI without a turning point, outside of working with friends in the field, you're a really good friend. I'm really proud of you.

24:00

I'm really proud of you. I'm really proud of you. I have NKRI without any turning point. Outside, I work with my friends in TNI, in Papua, and so on. Yesterday, there was...

24:17

Well, Omay Farid and Nurhan,

24:21

stopped YouTube.

24:23

You know, right? I know. I saw YouTube. You know that, right? I know. I watched it. The content is different, but there is still a relationship with food. But maybe it's not about food. I quit YouTube. And the reason is... I'm tired. It's not worth it.

24:38

So... What is this?

24:44

You're tired, right?

24:45

Yes. So, I'm curious. Are there any other YouTubers or friends that you know that complained to you, like,

24:54

-"Oh, I'm tired."? -"Tired." Yes, a lot. A lot. It's easier to make unclear content on platforms like TikTok and others.

25:01

It's watched by 10 million.

25:02

Yes. And the interaction is more developed. For example, Om Dad, you comment on my video, I know you comment. But if you comment on YouTube, we don't have interaction. We don't have interaction.

25:11

There's no syraturami.

25:12

Oh, I see.

25:14

But if we post on Instagram, for example, maybe Mr. President or Mr. Gibran, our president, comment, thumbs up, the interaction is built. The interaction is built. Like yesterday, if I want to repost your video, it's easy. Easy.

25:28

I just need to press it, and it's reposted.

25:30

Yes. Whereas in YouTube, the specific content has to be more mature. And it's not about interaction anymore. So, I don't make videos about interaction anymore. But I make videos as a work.

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25:43

But YouTube wasn't like that before? YouTube wasn't like that before. But it's gone.

25:48

Because they also play short content, short content. With the existence of shorts, with the existence of what?

25:53

Yes, with the existence of shorts, we also feel...

25:55

Do they kill each other?

25:55

Kill each other. Kill each other, huh? We as a YouTuber who has been in a long format from the beginning, we feel, frankly, it was not appreciated suddenly appeared talking about Youtuber

26:09

subscribers 20 million or 30 million when we see all the content is short videos how do we mean we don't ... like ... like heartache, while we have a long career

26:23

the work is also tiring, not easy, easy. We have to build a big team. And they suddenly appear with 20-30 million subscribers. They record with their phone. Maybe they share the money. Share the iPhone. We lost, Om Bret.

26:38

That's why when we think about it, it's not worth it.

26:41

And YouTube doesn't appreciate us.

26:43

YouTube doesn't appreciate. YouTube doesn't appreciate. YouTube doesn't appreciate. I don't know if Indonesian YouTube doesn't have the ability to appreciate. Because maybe to appreciate it, you need the center, right? But then how to appreciate it?

26:57

What can they do?

26:58

Yeah. Maybe...

27:01

Because for me, I mean, they are also business oriented. At the end of the day, they are business oriented. When this is going, that is going. I think it's like this. If you look at TikTok, for example, it's going. This is going. This is going.

27:12

If I don't go there, I'll lose momentum. And they end up going there. The point is, it's not like a peanut on the skin. They have to be sacrificed. What appreciation? If you want to make appreciation, you need to be a creator knight.

27:29

That's one of the things.

27:32

Yes, that's right.

27:37

The morality is gone, in my opinion. So, it's not just a platform for us to interact with each other. But it's a platform that is divided into short formats. A platform where you only have a work, just put it there. Some people watch, some people don't, it doesn't matter. The trending is also gone.

27:58

And the content, for free stuff, it's going up again, right?

28:02

Oh yes, faster, easier. It's good to be a content creator like that. One video, maybe 1 million, 200 thousand.

28:09

We remember back then,

28:11

Aptak, Baim Wong, content sharing.

28:15

Yeah.

28:16

But that's just an effort, right?

28:18

Yeah. Effort.

28:20

Effort, right? Pretending to be crazy, pranking from everywhere.

28:25

That's what makes it effort. Right.

28:27

If now, just meet at the mall and give a mic.

28:29

It's not healthy now. It's not healthy. Just give a mic, a little debriefing. You get this much, can you? And we used to do that too, Om Dad. Once or twice.

28:42

Because we follow the trend. At that time, Om Dad. Once or twice. Because I followed the trend. It was crowded. Why so fast? We were a bit jealous. As a content creator, a YouTuber, why is there someone who is fast in this way? There's nothing wrong with that.

28:51

When Om Dad did a podcast, many people saw the podcast was growing.

28:55

Everyone followed.

28:56

I cooked, and everyone followed. It turns out that true self. So, I thought, if I keep doing this, I better find a new way. I'll cook in a different way. And it worked. And it worked.

29:18

I don't want to cook anymore. I don't want to serve the people anymore. I try to be present. But it's better if I can come there 100%. I'm not burdened with... My white collar is like a semi-documentary.

29:34

What do we do after this? We shoot in the morning. We shoot the sunrise, sunset, and maybe what will be the transition. How do we do the briefing? And what kind of drone do we need? It's tiring.

29:49

Yes, using a drone.

29:52

That's why I want to go there. Maybe I can be more maximal. Without having to think about how to make a documentary content that has...

30:06

preferable content. Maybe it's also for Netflix if you want.

30:08

It should be.

30:09

Yes, it should.

30:09

I think the effort is almost the same. Yes, it's also for Netflix.

30:13

Documentary, the effort is the same.

30:15

That's right.

30:16

Yes, if we want to talk about it in terms of value and so on, maybe it's for Netflix. And the demand of my audience is getting higher. If I make a cooking show like usual, people will watch it as usual. People will watch it as usual.

30:32

But the demand is getting higher.

30:34

I want to show you something.

30:36

Is this good or bad news?

30:38

This is...

30:40

This is a direct offer from Om Dad.

30:42

No, no. Oh, Okay, read it.

31:11

Crazy!

31:20

I'm dead. Let him be, no one needs to know.

31:28

It's getting messy. It's getting messy.

31:31

How about Ricky?

31:33

Ricky is my younger brother, too. He's been doing content for a long time.

31:36

He's better at doing business.

31:39

Isn't he a traveler?

31:41

He makes travel content.

31:42

That's not his first object anymore. But it's still there, right? It's still there. That's not his first object. But it's still there, right?

31:46

It's still there.

31:47

It's not like... Back then, it was full-time, right? Well, it's a business now. Maybe in the future, I'll try to do business. My business with others. I also try to make my own business.

32:00

Because I feel like our cooking is still needed. And we can be present. Because we're close to our friends from TNI. If we invite them to do positive activities, they will be very open. We have access to that.

32:15

Wherever we are, if we need it, if we are expected, we are there. And I can't do it alone. I formed a foundation, Om Dad. And the foundation is basically people who want to help, can go there.

32:30

So, sometimes they don't have time, they don't have the energy, but they have the fortune to help their friends there. So, they can be compared. If you are confused now, how to help.

32:42

If there is a foundation, it's better. That's my dedication. My dedication for Indonesia.

32:50

My question is, have you contacted YouTube?

32:54

No. I only contacted them to ask why they want to sell it. Why they want to sell it. That's it. I was tired. I said, okay. Good luck. That's it. And there was no, like, come on, tell me. No. I have said this many times.

33:22

If I don't make this kind of content, and if I don't make this effort, Indonesia will lose one of the content creators who can help the country. That's my opinion.

33:37

I agree with that. Because you know I agree with that. You know I agree with that. I'm not taking credit, but I'm not taking credit at all. There's nothing I do that's as big as what you do. But in the background, I tried to help you. I helped you to access to this and that.

34:09

If we're lost, it's a pity. I really love you. But everything is back and forth. There must be a way back. YouTube is also a way to get rid of it. YouTube is the stupidest.

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34:31

Yeah. There is no such thing. Actually, it's hard for me to release my program like Kuala Merah Putih Om Dad. Because I still watch my videos. Especially the teachers who teach their students. Many teachers reported to me, Bang Bobon, if there is a new episode, I usually let my students watch it.

34:58

The purpose is to maintain the unity. That Indonesia is a big country, the culture is big. It's easy to see that. Bahwa Indonesia ini luas, budayanya besar. Paling gampang ga sih liat itu? Udah, nih teman-teman di Aceh, teman-teman di Papua, teman-teman di pelosok sini. But, is this sentimental action atau ga sih?

35:15

Lu, apakah lu semudah itu tiba-tiba nge-post Instagram, atau gua ga tau apa, ada perendungan dulu, Instagram or I don't know, you had a concern or maybe you cried first, I don't know. Or you thought about it first. Or you're just crazy. You don't have any feelings about all of this. Actually, if I have a concern for a long time,

35:36

I'll just break up with him. It's too short. Maybe a few minutes. I'll just break up with him, sell it. Because I felt like I had to let go of a burden. My brain was stuck on one thing. One thing that made me think hard.

35:56

To spend time with my friends was hard too. So, I had a lot of potential that I feel like I haven't developed enough. Because one of the factors is that I have to make content. How to make content on YouTube that is as good as possible. Give our platform to upload, to eat. And I feel that's my burden.

36:20

Benefit and cost are not included. Not included. Maybe it will be a different story if one video can still be plus tens of millions, hundreds of millions. Maybe.

36:30

That's still a benefit and cost.

36:31

That will be different. But when you put it, after you finish posting, what do you feel? Well, what happened, happened.

36:40

Relieved or sad?

36:42

The first thing I tried to convince my wife. I told her that it was my burden. I said, with the burden that I had, I believe I can be more maximal. I can put more effort. I can be more creative to put it on another platform. With a shorter duration.

37:05

You once did a live on TikTok at that time, right?

37:08

I was live on TikTok.

37:10

You were banned?

37:11

I was banned. That's why I didn't join Farida for the live TikTok sales. I was banned. I'm still banned. You're still banned?

37:20

I'm still banned. I've been tried to go to TikTok China too. I've been helped by my Indonesian TikTok friends, but I can't.

37:25

Why did you join a band?

37:27

A few years ago, I had a cooking show in Bali. I had a live show. I challenged the audience. If the likes were up to a certain point, I would take off my shirt. I said that.

37:43

But I joined the banned because of that. I said, if the likes reach 1 million, I'll take off my shirt. Well, I was detected by that. Because at that time, I forgot. But I was detected because I said I wanted to take off my shirt. Okay. But that's it.

37:59

There's no meaning. You can't do it at all. I mean, I can't report it. Oh, you can't?

38:05

It's gone.

38:06

Yes. It's been tried. But who knows, the policy has changed, the management has changed, the people have changed. Who knows, maybe we can help. But until that moment, after I tried it and I felt like, maybe I don't need to do it live anymore.

38:21

I never asked again. Last year, I tried to do it live.

38:27

I think it's a bit tiring to watch social media. That's why I made a funny video. It's tiring to watch social media. The context of social media, when I look at it now, it's crazy. Everyday, given every day is a brain rotting problem. Right?

38:48

From all sides, sir. From all sides. Suddenly, the gold price goes up and down. Wow, there are people who cry, there are people who suddenly... Crypto class yesterday, right? Timothy Ronald, wow, there are people like this, there are people like this.

39:00

It's like the context is like, who is the enemy? The context is like that. Without knowing the core context. And if it's already passed, then, it's like, wow, politics. Politics, talking about this and that. This and that.

39:17

Right? It's a debate. Mr. Jokowi's justice. I think this is not a debate anymore. This is like a comedy stage. If you watch it, it's like, what is this?

39:27

I mean, the reboot is so funny. And then, whatever it is. And then, the crowd and so on. Basically, it's either entertainment, either people suddenly make a mess, or make unclear content,

39:42

and the content is free.

39:45

That's the content. So, how can you get education and real stuff? In the long run, people like us, we might just watch it on the cinema.

39:57

Yes, that's right. Because the education is not facilitated anymore. Because most of the content is based on education. Yes, and according to the platform that they said, because our audience likes it, it's because humans are basically dopamine.

40:18

If you give them content, they'll be like playing roulette in a casino. They'll be more excited. It's faster.

40:38

Is there a possibility that it won't happen?

40:41

The possibility of not being able to buy people... I don't know. As Om Dad said, the price is not too high. But for Indonesia, maybe.

40:51

There are many winners. Winners. If... But I've fixed it. I've fixed it. I don't want to make YouTube content anymore. It's impossible not to happen.

41:06

So, it's a sure thing. It's a sure thing. I don't know who asked me to do it. I don't know who asked me to continue or what. But if I'm alone with all my resources, I can't do it anymore.

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41:22

For example, I don't need to talk about the government. For example, if a brand sees this, I will close 10 episodes.

41:32

I will add the cost. Okay. And it will be covered in 10 episodes. We talk about this continuously. There is no end. If it's 10 episodes, I will quit. The cooking will no end. If it's 10, we have to quit. The cooking is endless.

41:47

We feel that the cooking is endless. What impact can we have? I can only come to the community, feed them, I can summarize the pluses and minuses, as a documentation.

42:03

And I show it to all of you wherever you are. The purpose is to strengthen the unity, to maintain the dignity. But there are also many points of view from the society to us. Like that. If there is a brand that only covers 10 episodes, it's better not to do it. Because it will only delay our death.

42:33

10 episodes is a short time.

42:35

I decided not to upload anything. I tried to make something that I like. For example, I made some silly content. I tried to make some videos. But when I posted it, it was not relevant anymore. It was not relevant for Bobon Santoso to upload videos like this.

43:01

What videos are relevant for us to post? Like Masak-Masak and Kuali Merah Putih. But it's back to the past.

43:08

But it's back to the past.

43:09

The victims are bigger. Bigger, right. We won't post it anymore. If there are no buyers, we don't have to do anything. We don't have to post anything.

43:22

Maybe it can be useful. My account is for the country. Or for the foundation. Before, it was Reza Arap. For the foundation of Canker. But I'll see what it's for.

43:37

No, no. Here's the thing. When Reza Arap gave his YouTube channel to Yasan Kangkar, again, I don't want to take credit. I was the one who helped him. So, at that time, he just wanted to turn it off.

43:55

We talked about it. If I just turn it off, it would be a waste. So, we thought about it together. And we came up with this idea. Me and Arap. Then I searched for it, and found out that it's good.

44:11

Arap's research went there, and so on. And it was given to one of the Sunkunkers.

44:14

Okay.

44:15

The problem is, I want to tell you this. 18 million subscribers doesn't mean anything.

44:24

Yeah. It doesn't mean anything. 18 million subscribers is meaningless.

44:25

Yes. Meaningless.

44:29

Meaningless. Because, first, 18 million subscribers doesn't mean 18 million viewers. That's one. Second, 18 million subscribers is a stupid number. So, if you is given to anyone...

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44:45

It's not optimal.

44:47

It will definitely not work.

44:49

It won't work. It won't work. Is the Yesan Kangkrei that was in the Arabian Peninsula working?

44:53

No.

44:54

No. Because I don't blame Yesan Kangkrei. Because Yesan Kangkrei can't make content that is as interesting as the existing content. So, when you give this content to something, for example, I'm just talking nonsense, we give it to the government, for example, certain instances. Instances with their own limitations,

45:19

can they make the content as good as a bobo? It's just left to them.

45:24

We only give them provide platform and numbers.

45:26

Platform and numbers. And in the end, there's no content. So, I don't know if the best way is to provide... But, rather than not.

45:41

But I think it will cause a new problem for people who accept that they will be responsible for it. That's right. When they are filled with something, the fans are still there. Yes.

45:56

What is this? Why is it like this? Where is Bobon? Return Bobon.

46:00

That's it. That will add a new problem.

46:03

In my opinion, yes.

46:05

Why don't you...

46:07

I'm asking for advice from Om Dev.

46:09

Why don't you just change it? Just make it short. You make it for real, right? For short content, right? Just put it there. Just turn off the long video.

46:20

Okay.

46:21

One of them might be like that. We don't do long video anymore. We play it short. One of them could be like, we don't do long video anymore, we'll just do short videos. It doesn't matter if it's a short video or not.

46:32

It's the best way.

46:33

It's the best way.

46:36

That's why I also talked about my posting. In this year, it could be the end of the year, mid-year. And if it doesn't work, I'll think about it again. I'll think about it again. I'll think about it again. One of them is to give it to the foundation, the institution, or maybe...

46:52

I'll just let it be.

46:54

Just let it be. Maybe try to put in a short shot. Because you also make a short shot using a phone. You can just put it in there and throwing everything away. Maybe. I don't know. Maybe. Because giving to people is their responsibility. Do you want 20 billion? Maybe netizens or entrepreneurs who become...

47:18

Instead of buying NFT. NFT. You used to buy NFT? NFT? It's better... Including the videos, right? Including the videos. That's an amazing asset. Yes, it's an amazing asset. An amazing asset doesn't mean that the asset is appreciated. Those are two different things. But, Bon, as your friend, I love you.

48:01

If I see you like I... If I see... Okay, yesterday was like that.

48:06

Oh no.

48:07

But thank you, Om Det. Om Det, you are the one who brought me everywhere. You tried to make me work with the other institutions.

48:19

But I don't think it's maximal.

48:20

It's maximal.

48:22

For me, it's not maximal. And it's not maximal. Maximal? For me, it's not maximal. And it's not maximal just because of me. From the places I've been to, it's not maximal either. But I'm always trying. I always try. I told him, if I can help, I'll help.

48:40

But I'm sad.

48:42

But... I'm sad.

48:50

This is a question after Bobon, who's next?

48:57

How much do we sell? He has 20 billion. How many followers do we have? 25 million.

49:03

There are still many lot of closed doors.

49:11

It's true. It's really dark. Indonesian content creators are all dark.

49:17

Indonesian content creators are all dark.

49:19

All dark. All destroyed. That's the risk if you become a content creator that's too... Idealistic. Idealistic and honest. Maybe if we're not a content creator that's honest, the calculation will be more...

49:35

The calculation will be more positive. You once talked about the content of the gift in TDS. Yes. Do you think that kind of content is also damaging? Very damaging. Very damaging.

49:47

Even though it's true, for example. Even though it's true, it's also very damaging. Very damaging. Very damaging. The truth is, even though it's true, it's still damaging. Because it causes mental issues that our society...

49:57

Asks for.

49:57

Asks for. I've read it. Maybe from 100 DMs, 90% of them are apologizing. Because it's so unusual. And many people said, Wow, Bobon is frustrated and wants to back down. There are many. Yes.

50:14

It's really bad.

50:17

Because the mentality is built from things like that.

50:19

Our government has to take quick and firm steps. Because it's already at the end. Because the one who got hit is not a generation, but a generation. From the cradle. If I meet a kid, I already follow Bang Bobon. Then I asked Om Dad,

50:37

what do you expect from my follow? Where's the 100,000? Where's the money? I already follow Bang Bobon. I already follow Bang Bobon's mothers. Yes, ma'am. Thank you. I've followed Bang Bobon.

50:47

Where is the prize? Wow. It's true. It's like that. And I've told you many times. Our content creator's top 1, 2, up to 10. There's no content.

51:04

There's no content. We're in the top 10, right? We're in the top 10, right? But the 1st, 3rd, 5th, almost all of them are the same.

51:15

And then, you follow and give away the gifts.

51:19

For those who are lucky, I'll give you this. I'm not a foodie. I'm just a foodie I'm not talking about the iPhone, I'm talking about food You brought a laptop

51:29

I'm sorry to say that to my friends You gave me a Chinese phone My phone is a Chinese phone You're using an iPhone, my phone is a Chinese phone The price is not even half of your iPhone. I make content using this, edit using this, video using this.

51:49

Yeah.

51:51

The one who usually gets angry, this one, take off your shirt.

51:53

I make content using this.

51:54

I use this for editing my videos.

51:56

The front camera.

51:57

The front camera is really annoying.

51:58

Sometimes, the face is like a bar. I make it using this. It's about creativity, it's about who handles the gun. If I want to use a phone that costs 8 million, it works for me.

52:12

Do you know why I'm using this?

52:15

Why?

52:17

The battery lasts for 3 days.

52:20

I thought it was because of the battery.

52:24

In Emochina, it's a silicon battery that charges 100W I charged it for 15-20 minutes and it's 100W It lasted 3 days

52:32

That's what I need That's what I need

52:36

Camera, okay

52:38

What's that? Vivo I'm not promoting this I'm not promoting, if there's another Chinese who wants to, please I'm not promoting it if there are other Chinese who want to, please promote it the context is like this, are you sure giving an iPhone 17 Pro Max 1TB to the wrong person is sure to make that person get something?

53:02

do you understand what I mean? yes, dollar if you give it to me, it might be something I mean, you get something. Do you understand? Yeah. Dollar. If you give it to me, it might be something. If I give it to you, it might be something. Sometimes we don't need something that sophisticated. If we give it to someone else, it might not be sold.

53:18

Because they might need money.

53:21

They need money, yeah. And if you get it, what's next?

53:24

You're in that kind of environment. The point is money. And if you get it, what's next?

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53:25

You are in that kind of situation, with your friends, and you make them feel bad, your family feel bad,

53:31

you ask for more, you can't get it anymore.

53:34

We don't know if this is a trend, or the pain of content creators. Back then, they were always going back and forth.

53:43

Who's Indra Kainz. New iPhone, new cellphone.

53:47

Throw it away. In the end, it's also a class sale. Book sales.

53:56

That's right.

53:58

That's right. But, I mean, Bobon didn't stop. Bobon just changing the platform. Yes, that's right. Changing the platform. But the works will always be there.

54:11

So, friends, the works will always be there. And we are actually old YouTubers. Actually, the first generation of YouTubers have stopped, right?

54:22

They have stopped. Like Chandra Liow, Agung Hapsa.

54:28

They have all stopped.

54:29

Ria SW has also... Ria SW has never been around. I met her here.

54:37

She's not around anymore.

54:40

They have all become legends. The question is, will we follow them to become legends too?

54:49

And stop when it's the right time.

54:52

Okay.

54:53

But Bobon, for me, in my mind, in my heart, you're already a legend.

54:57

So, thank you very much for everything. So, thank you very much for everything.

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