Bollywood truths, Failed IVF and Insecurities in Marriage ft. Farah Khan

I didn't know that this was the kitchen.

Philip!

Sania, you think I'm 25 years old. I know Sania from 18 years and I don't know this. I think we're working harder now than we worked in our primary careers.

Yeah, in different ways. But do you think that today the judgement of coming from that rags to riches

is way less than before? Till now, I am insecure about money. And I understood why my dad took to alcohol. I would be married and probably divorce. And not many people know I've frozen my eggs. And I recommend it to everybody. He said it's fine even if we don't have children,

what will happen? And my parents were like, why are you crying? And I'm like, I actually don't know. We know we are secure in our marriage. We don't need to hold hands on the red carpet. Maybe actors will get angry with me now. So all the times you've made me cook, dance, everything that I don't do ever, I'm gonna make you play a sport.

You told me that I'm coming to the kitchen. I didn't know that this is the kitchen of pickle ball.

This is not a kitchen of a house. This is not allowed in the kitchen. Now I wanna see how you're gonna play this sport. I have never played a sport before you know that. I know that is why I'm taking a revenge.

I only play games. Only play games. Did you play sport in school? I played dog and the bone. Dog and the bone is not a sport. Of course it is. And you hit that ball and you run.

So no, you have not played.

It's a national sport of Lokhandwala.

Ok, let's see now.

See!

See! Oh my God! Dilip! I cannot play this alone. Dilip! You've got a Dilip here also?

I've got a partner. Come here.

Yes ma'am.

What have you brought?

Ma'am, pickles.

Why have you brought pickles?

You said you wanted to play pickleball.

This is not the same kitchen as the pickleball. This is not a pickleball. This is not a pickle. Go and get a pickle. Keep it and bring the bat. You need a partner? I think I will be two against one because you are the great Sanya Mirza.

Go there.

Now when the ball comes, hit it like a wet stick. Okay. Yay! I scored a point. Sania couldn't hit the ball.

But you have to hit in the line.

Oh, you have to hit it in the line.

Little.

Agaya, agaya.

Dilip.

Leh, mar.

Kya kar raha hai?

Meri naag kata raha hai tu.

Mar Dilip. Arey, do.

I give up on this game. I give up.

I give up on this game. He's worse than me. I found someone worse than me. No, actually you're very good. You're very good. Your hand-eye coordination surprisingly. I think it's the Wimbledon you watched 10 years ago.

I still it's... It's embedded in my brain.

The Wimbledon I had to force you to come and watch.

On that note, we have to stop.

I'm telling you one week of this I can play Wimbledon pickleball. There is nothing like that but...

That's why I can play it.

Please.

My god, I'm so good at pickleball. Are you tired? Not at all, I can play for next 4-5 hours. And you were so nervous saying that, Sania you're making me play a sport, you're making me play pick the ball.

Sania, I haven't played any sport in the last 40 years.

It didn't seem like that but now. Because my eye on hand coordination is too good. Eye on hand no, hand eye coordination. Okay now tell me, I had to host a podcast for you to actually play a sport in your... And I want to tell you only for you would I do this. I know, because you love me and I love you very much for this.

Because you have also come cooked. Exactly, but listen how do you like our name now? You tell me, Serving It Up with Sanya. I love it. Serving It Up. I love it. And there's a kitchen partner also. There is a kitchen partner. But a different type of kitchen. Correct. But tell me why do they call it a kitchen in Pickleball? I don't understand why they call it Pickleball. Pickleball, kitchen, it's all to do with food

actually. It's all to do with food. It's a game that was started many years ago for actually in America with older women who wanted to have like cardio and activity. I'm the brand ambassador of older women who want to do cardio and activity. Okay, you didn't bring food today. That's what I was thinking. Did you get my... Dilip! Tell me you got my favourite thing.

Dilip! Yes ma'am. You order and here it is.

My roast chicken. Thanks Dilip. Dilip, did you make this? Didi made it? I made it, ma'am taught me. First he has lied and said ma'am made it. Did I ever lie to you?

You just taught me, I made it.

It's so tasty, so much of love.

This will be my lunch. Eat it after the shoot and I also want to tell you that he has two more brand shoots.

So please let Dilip go

but I have to give him something

wow you are getting a gift

we are only gifting him what do you mean? this is something from Digitech the viral video you make, you are the main character in that

no ma'am

so this will be useful for shooting open it and show me what's inside. Wow! This is amazing. Thank you Dilip. I know this show will go viral because of Dilip's on it.

Thank you.

So, Farah, what we've done is basically we found some pictures that I don't know if you remember when we've taken but you're gonna have to try to remember some special things. I remember every photo we've taken. Yeah, all of them here.

Oh!

So just see.

My God!

Okay, wow!

This one. This is easy. This is the first time you and me went on coffee with Karan. Yeah. Or I don't think we gave Karan a chance to speak. Because we were on fire.

You were on fire.

No you also.

I was diplomatically correct as always but you were definitely on fire.

We have roasted Karan a lot on this. In this picture.

How nice we both looked. Oh my god. Here's my fat face. I'm allowed to say that word. No you're not. This is when you retired and you had that big party in Hyderabad. The big function event.

And all 10 of us flew from Bombay to Hyderabad.

And this was the welcome in our room.

But this was after. After the function. And we were just sitting. When we just wanted to wear our nightie and lie down.

When is this one?

This is one of those nights where I have not wanted to go out and we have sat in the hotel room and eaten food and you have brought this same roast chicken. This is a while ago also.

This is some hotel room. We have thousands of photos like this. So it's difficult to say but I love these the best. Where I just come to a hotel room, get food from home and then we just lie down on the couch and either watch Bigg Boss.

Everybody should know this right about us that our favourite activity is to actually sit in bed or on the couch and watch Bigg Boss.

Oh my god.

Is that your house? First I asked him to do a Uditji on me but now I am doing a Udijji on him.

This is when Hizan was so two. How old is he? Two?

One and a half. Maybe the first time he came to your house.

First time he came to my house. Cutie pie. Now he doesn't give me a kiss anymore.

He doesn't even give me a kiss. What do you mean? I wonder who is kissing now. Please he is 6 years old.

But it's his and so... Hey, I remember this. He was at Shah Rukh Khan's house. Shah Rukh had a party for Apple. Tim Cook was there. And Mr. Bachchan was there.

Aishwarya was there. And Mr. Bachchan was taking a selfie.

And he was saying, that why do you make a face by pouting? Do you remember? That's why you were making that face and he was like, I don't know why.

I was just trying to look thin. Oh, I remember this photo. This photo, Sania had just given birth. Izan was just born.

When you came to see me in Hyderabad. Yeah. When you gave him that gift.

Yes.

When I got his little hands as a gift. So first time you came to see me after I had his hand. I swear I am looking more pregnant here than you. No, no I was looking very pregnant. This I came to your house and then I saw the baby and oh my god time is flying. But you have lost so much weight Sara since then. Time is flying, I have to ya.

And this I remember, this was I was Sanya's plus one. This was a sports award. I don't know what I was doing there because I knew you were a sports... But you showed your talent. Why you were at the sports award with your pickleball skills? You think I'll ever win for pickleball award? No, you'll be my plus one but... So we were the plus one where? We were a couple. The it couple.

My date. Where did you find this photo? I go to Sania's house every time.

This couch is my favourite spot in Dubai.

Can you tell them the story of when you have come on my birthday at a nightclub? And you have slept exactly in this position in the nightclub.

But without, there was no nice...

There was no blanket, unfortunately. But in the nightclub, she has slept... But Sania, it seems like I'm 25 years old and whenever I go there, I don't know about nightclubs. Whenever? One time on my birthday we have gone. I also don't go anywhere. Nightclub, we are going after 12 at night, full blast music and I have passed out.

And the club people thought that I'm drunk and I have passed out. She was asleep, she was sound asleep.

This is my favourite activity. Oh my god.

I also don't know what photo. Oh my god. This was my FAT phase. FAT, this was Anam's wedding. This is Anam's wedding. We had a blast.

One of the few times when I had a few shots. And we were dancing to all my songs.

And Ram Charan was there, we were teaching him dance steps.

You choreographed a song where three of us danced.

Yes.

Do you remember? No, I don't remember that.

No, you don't remember a lot from that night? I don't but I remember I was extremely effety. You're not allowed to keep saying this. But how? You can't fat look like this anymore. Can I keep these?

Yeah, of course.

You should frame them and put them up. So when I was a kid, I don't know if you know this about me that you know we were in the US right? We were living in the US and at that point it was hand to mouth. Everything was financially. Yeah, you don't know this about me. See I had to do a podcast.

Dad was a builder over here. When we came back.

Yeah.

But when I was four we tried to live there for two years and at that point my dad had a small printing press. I know Sanya from 18 years and I don't know this about her. At that time what had happened was obviously like we all have financial struggles we were just trying to make ends meet so I couldn't even go to school at that point you know they couldn't send me to nursery because they couldn't afford it and then we ended up coming back so I know that you have spoken about you know the financial situations that happened in your life how do you think that shaped you into who you are today did it make a difference was it? I think 100% it makes a difference.

Till now, I am insecure about money. So for me, I have to be financially secure to feel relaxed. And that's the only insecurity I have. Because we have seen my dad very rich and then suddenly very poor.

And then for many years, we were hand to mouth. I think that the drive to keep working at all times and not like same with you also now you have given up you've retired from tennis but you're doing hundred other things. So I may not be choreographing or actively directing but I think we are working harder now than we worked in our primary careers. Yeah in different ways but do you think that today the judgement of coming from that rags to riches

is way less than before? Before people used to try to hide that story a lot more, right? Like today people are more open about it. I think today everyone wants a struggle story. Even people who don't have a struggle, they are making a story, a struggle story of some very weird thing. So I think today everything is about having a struggle. And I am fine, my kids don't have one.

Your child will not have one. But financial struggle is the most obvious struggle that is there. Obvious and the most difficult one. Because then you are not free to pursue what you want. It's only about getting through that day or getting through that month. That's why I say, I can understand when people come from outside to Bombay want it's only about getting through that day or getting through that month.

That's why I say I can understand when people come from outside to Bombay and they have a anger about Nepo children or whatever. I can understand where that anger comes from because for them they are only struggling to pay the rent of that month or to have some food. So for them their struggle seems to be very frivolous. You've spoken about when your dad's films flopped.

Yeah.

Do you think that that had any kind of... Were you old enough obviously to understand, you know, the repercussions that happen with something like that or the way you saw career and the way you saw money? I was only some five or six years old and I was a very, very spoiled, pampered child till then.

But I saw the repercussions over the years and I don't blame the industry for it because it happens in every industry if you are a failure people are not coming to you when people say Bollywood is very tough no life is only tough. No no success sells. Correct. So you have to make sure that you don't get affected either by the success or by the failure so I think that over the years I understood

and I understood why my dad took to alcohol and why he was, you know, because at that time as a child you're getting traumatized

and you cannot bring any friend home.

But how difficult was it to be in a place that was so uncertain, right? Like with somebody who was struggling with addiction. I'm telling you, it was uncertain. So we had a full floor and then we started selling flats. And then finally we came to a one hall and one bedroom.

From like five bedrooms and huge hall and all. Which he couldn't sell because it was on my mom's name. They were separated already. They took us with us and left. So, that hall in the afternoon was given to the people to come and play cards. So everyone used to put 5 rupee ka kitti and 30 rupees 6 or 7, 30, 35 that was it. In that 35 rupees you had

to buy the milk for the next day, the whatever little bhaji. It was day to day and my dad's quarter or half bottle whatever. So if they didn't come to play for whatever reason, there was no milk the next day and it was literally that much. So it was really, I've seen if two extra people came it was fun like, oh now we'll get mutton. See like the same thing was I have seen when I used to travel, my parents used to eat like one meal a day, one big meal that used to get breakfast for free in the hotel so that I could eat three meals.

For your practice and everything. When we used to go for juniors, you know. Yeah, and the house used to be, it's a very depressive place to come back. So, I used to, when I went to college, we had to shift back with my dad and my dad is lovely. But to see him like that and you know know there's a... I can smell alcohol whenever I go somewhere even it's in a car. I know that smell so well it triggers a childhood memory for me.

Is that why you're so averse to it you think? No, now though I still have it once in a while at a party. Yeah, very rarely because I know that I'm not going to get addicted to it. So I used to keep staying in college till 6.30, 7 in the evening. You didn't have to come home. So that I didn't want to just come back home. So I think the whole now calling people over and having these get-togethers and feeding

is all because we never got to do it in childhood. We couldn't call our friends or even in school say that my parents are separated. It was a very big taboo. I mean those times were also very, very different at that point. Yeah, and now I see in my children's school it's so normalised because every second person is coming from a broken home. But however much you normalise it, a child always gets affected.

See, a child will get affected anyway. So you have to understand and choose what is a situation that is better. Because if a child is going to see two people that are extremely unhappy, then there are certain calls that need to take. Exactly. Crazy. But if you have a place where you're like, we can fake it, you're kidding yourself because the child understands.

And obviously, you know, there are different... Because you are now a single mother.

I think nothing more difficult than being a single mom.

See, there is mom guilt, right? Like even now you are married, but how much today you are working as much as you work and they're spending so much more time with the children. For you to do it alone like I was just telling you before, the children are now looking after their college applications and so I don't... But you will have to do it all. You'll have to also work and do that and give him the time and so it's...

It is very, very hard and we all have our journeys and we all have to choose what is best. So I've seen you go through your worst. But I've from since I know you.

Yeah.

I've seen your highest high and your lowest low.

Yeah.

And I think you've handled both of them equally well. I remember I don't want to mention it on camera, but there was a moment that was one of the lowest moments when you showed up at my set and I had to go on a live show after that. And till today, and I'm not saying this on camera, if I talk to anybody I say that if Farah had not come there, you saw what I was shivering. And I said that if Farah had not come and said no matter what you're going and doing this show, I would have not done it. I would have left.

I know.

Because I got so scared that I have never seen you. Bad, bad moment. Got like a panic attack and I had a shoot that day but I just. Yeah. And you just came to the set and I was shooting. I had my pyjama, I don't know what and my chappals. I just landed up there and I just felt you needed somebody to be there. No and I think it really helps me and our friendship over the years and I mean this is not about our friendship but I just want to tell people because we've gotten the question a lot saying

that what is common? Why are you friends? He doesn't support her, you don't support her.

If you start bitching about us, our judging of people is very common.

But even strong women need other people. So I think that's somewhere forgotten. But also we have a lot of fun when we are with each other. No of course. Okay I want to tell you, I don't think you know this about me also. I'm liking this show and I'm getting to learn about my friends. So when we were in America, I would get on a flight with my parents.

Anam was not there at that point because Anam was only born after 7 years of me being alive but I was four or five we were flying to LA. You used to play that time? No, no I came back we couldn't afford it so we had to come back to India and then start playing that was one of the reasons why we came. So when we were taking the flight my aunt called last minute and said listen don't take tomorrow morning I can't come to LA to pick you up tomorrow so you take the next morning. Okay. We said okay. So the next morning that flight crashed. What? Yeah, that flight crashed. Oh my god. It's a true story. Yeah, there were no survivors. Because I believe

in destiny but do you feel that destiny is one of the most important things or luck and commitment and hard work? No, no, 100%. I think it's a combo of both. Like you, at 23 I wanted to also get married very desperately and if that had happened then I would not be the person I am today I would be married and

probably divorced and not having a career and No, no you would not have been divorced 100% and also how I got my first break as a choreographer now see somebody didn't turn up for the shoot and I was the only person there who knew dance and how to choreograph so I was made the

choreographer of a very big Aamir Khan movie Jo Jeeta Voi Si Khan so that is all destiny you know but the thing is if you are not prepared for that destiny then you miss out on the chance so the talent has to be there. Talent and the hard work and that so

you have to wait for that you have to be prepared and you have to wait for that. You have to be prepared and you have to wait. If you give up halfway, then the opportunity can keep coming.

But do you feel because you were so young and you were a woman, which in that time was quite unheard of, right? Today there are so many more strong women like this. But do you think it was hard for people to take you seriously? Did you feel insecure about those things or do you think that it was fine? See, I don't think anyone played the gender card because there were a lot of female choreographers. Farrukh ji was a very big choreographer. But because you were young?

I was young. I was 25 when I started. And then calling the shots at 25. So at that time, but I very cleverly chose to work with directors who were either just coming up, like I didn't work with a bigger job that time like David Dhawan or all these people who are giving hit films, they were not even considering me. But I was getting a chance to work with Adi Chopra's first movie, Karan Johar's first movie. But they were also young. So they were all young so we got along very

well and luckily for me they all did very well. And the music, songs, so they all did very well and the music, song so they all came as a new thing. Also Shahrukh was very instrumental because he would recommend me wherever he was working because he and me got along well and he also didn't like that typical filmy. So all this is all I guess destiny only who you meet along the way and who you. And then that transition that happened like from being a choreographer and then being a director but not just a director. The only woman is still who's done over

300 crore films. I don't know how many people know this but there are very very few people who have come close to that. So I wanted to be a director only I didn't want to be a choreographer. It just happened. See Destiny now it happened and 10 years I think it was good because it trained me to become a better director I worked with all the good directors. I think we've had a lot of serious talks I think this is the first time in years.

I know I didn't realise that this is such a serious show.

Let's get something to drink okay and then I'll talk about it some more. But you know I something to drink. Healthy! This is a sports show.

Oh, okay.

Serving it up for Sanya, let's go. Serve it to me.

Very nice.

Wow. Look at it. It's looking yum.

Wow. It's actually nice. Very nice. Looking good.

Amazing.

Yummy.

Nice?

Tab.

Yum.

Can you stop waving?

I'm just going to have a bite.

I'm going to have a bite.

I'm going to have a bite.

I'm going to have a bite. I'm going to have a bite. Yummy.

Nice? Fab.

Yum.

Just stop it, we'll give you the smoothie.

Cheers.

Cheers.

How's the smoothie?

The smoothie is yummy but it's so thick that...

We are only, I want to tell you, eating and drinking on this.

Cheers.

Smoothie. So you're saying that we made a nice smoothie. So I pass my cooking test. And also you had a very good blender with you. That is why the smoothie is so good. I want to ask you something. Again, this you know about me because I had come to you but I wanted to freeze my eggs.

Yes.

And we went to...

Thank God you did.

Yes.

And when I came to you and you said come to your doctor. To Rosa Parikh. Yeah, exactly. To Dr. Parikh. But today, and not many people know I've frozen my eggs, you know. And I recommend it to everybody because you'd never know and you can then have to, the biological clock is ticking. Suddenly the maternal instinct kicks in later on. Exactly, if you want another kid or something. So, but at the time that you did IVF, it was not very common. Right? It was not that common. Like today people talk about it very openly.

I think it was common but people never spoke about it. Everyone pretended that your stock has brought it and dumped that child in your stomach. I don't know why it was taboo. So probably I was the first, at least celeb to openly talk about it. And after that I found out, oh my god, so many of these babies have all been IVF babies. And for me it was that it's completely legal. I'm not doing anything illegal, that it should

be taboo. But maybe it's that thing of like, you are not able to conceive and that shame that comes with it. But I was 40 years old. No, no, not you. I'm saying as women, the reason they hide it is that people will say you're not able to conceive. Because society has made it taboo.

But I decided I should speak because it's a wonderful thing for so many people who want to be mothers and... Later on in life. And also it can be about the husband. Why is it always the wife's fault? Yeah, of course. Firuza Parekh was wonderful and I think I must have at least recommended 250. People used to catch me in the supermarket and grocery store and ask for your doctor's number.

Because you also didn't have one, you had three. I had Jackpot. You were a great brand ambassador for her. And all three healthy babies. You know I want you to talk about little bit just for people to understand that anyway pregnancy and trying to have a child is emotionally draining.

But when you do IVF the kind of hormones that we have to take to actually freeze the eggs and all of that. So you actually just froze your eggs. I just froze my eggs. You didn't do IVF. Correct.

No I had Izan naturally and then I froze my eggs after that. Then you froze eggs, yeah. Because you never know, you may still want to have a baby sister or brother for him. The thing with IVF is I don't know how a normal pregnancy would be, bad enough. But with IVF and because I was carrying triplets, everything was, the throwing up was three times over. I used to have stomach rash all over. My stomach used to be like a... Acidity you had? Like bad... I was only in the loo at all times.

Oh really?

Yeah, because at any given time, one child was pressing on my bladder. So I was constantly in the loo. I could not sleep while lying down. I used to sleep on the lazy boy because my stomach used to come over my heart.

So all those things plus Sway Ro Zaa Parikh, I had to go every morning to take injections.

Yes.

Either in my thigh or in my stomach.

That's what I am saying, you know people don't realise that journey is like a two year journey. It's not a, you do the IVF and it and you freeze the egg. And then the emotional toll it takes. Because you're pumped and I have to wonder the first two times when it didn't work. I was in bed just crying for two days and I didn't even realise that oh my god I wanted to be a mother this badly. And I was 42 years old when I was pregnant.

You had a failed IVF twice.

Twice. So, and I have to just be crying and crying. It's also because of the hormones.

Yeah, of course. Also because of the hormones that are pumped in. I used to cry at the drop of a hat and I was also shooting Om Shanti Om at the same time. That was my next question. Did you have to let go of some work and stuff when you were doing that? Nothing. I did not. But then there was a break in the shoot for about a month and a half because Shah Rukh

every June-July used to go to London with his children. With Aryan and Suhana and Gauri. So June, July he used to take a break, annual break. That break came as a, I don't know, as a God send for me because in that break I was doing no work and I could relax and go and do the IVF and I was sure that now I will get pregnant. I had only 4 eggs left. And you were 42 already. I was 42. And how much support does that husband, you know, talk about that?

So there has not been, I used to go literally every alternate day, drive, one and a half hour drive to the hospital where doctor. There is not a single time where Shirish has not come with me or been with me or looked after me even after the pregnancy I mean he has literally washed me and bathed me and cleaned me up and all sorts of things that a husband maybe should not see but he was absolutely wonderful and even the times when

it failed you know he was of great support and he said it's fine even if we don't

have children what will happen.

I mean there are other options also na Yeah but he was like we are happy now so we'll continue that I mean but I knew how badly he wanted kids but he was also younger he's 8 years younger than me and for him the children were his best friend are are still yeah he spends maximum time with them What would you tell women and men actually today because you did it so many years ago and now technology has really like even better.

Yeah, it's become better. I have some cousins who've done IVF and in the first year they never had. I'm sure mine were now my kids will be 18 years old. Exactly. So I did it 19 years ago. So imagine how long.

So what would you tell people who are still a little quote unquote ashamed to talk about the fact that they are having an IVF? I think science is helping you right? I think the more people talk about it, the more you

hide it, then it becomes a problem.

But what is the need to hide? I don't know, they feel like Amit did surrogacy and then after that Shah Rukh did surrogacy. So many people know about that. And they all spoke about it openly. But there were still some twins and all born who they said were natural. I was like, God bless you.

Okay.

But it's good. And this leads me into my next question. And I know, I mean, you're so honest in terms of who you are. You know, who you are as a person and you try to always have your heart, you know, where your mouth is really. And I just feel that has it been challenging to be unapologetically honest and true in being in a public eye?

Yes. In some times I do tend to offend some of my, maybe my friends and I'm realising it as I grow older that I don't need to all the time tell them the truth. Some friends just, not you, but there are some, and especially the ones in films, they are becoming a bit picky.

But don't you feel after knowing you for, and I know the people that you know for so long. Yeah, but there's no need for me to tell them now, oh God, you were not looking good in that movie, you know. But anyway you should know. There is no need for me. But anyway I don't think there is any need to tell people unless... No because to tell that listen do something that you didn't look good in that.

I say it with the best intention but I guess I understand that people feel I am all the time only. You are too honest. Yeah so there is no need to be so honest. And has it been little challenging because you are that person who is constantly out and that social person in your relationship and in the household right because I mean Sirish and me get along but I am saying that

You are one of the few people who get along

I know me and him have our chais in the morning and stuff but he is an introverted person and you are a complete opposite of that if you may even though you have had to be

I am, I am

So has that been challenging in the relationship also? So in the beginning it was very challenging and we used to have a lot of fights when I would force him to come out with me and then also like we said the industry not only the industry, the world is full of assholes

Yeah

So they will always hone on the person who is more successful at that point Yeah, of course

You know?

Yes

So they will only talk to me and ignore my husband and I used to not like that and he also used to not like that Yeah of course So after a point we came to an agreement that if you are uncomfortable coming out with this set of people Then you don't come I want you to be happy and at peace I don't need to have a person We know we are secure in our marriage we don't need to hold hands on the red carpet Yeah

I sometimes I feel the more people are holding hands on the red carpet, I feel something is brewing. I mean it's not really a very natural thing to always be. Again, let's not be so honest. Let's not be so honest. Everyone is happily married. Everyone loves it. Hold hands on the red carpet, blue carpet and wherever you want. No, but I have seen that relationship and that's why I want people to know and I know that he doesn't like to come out too much.

Yeah, or to be spoken about also. Or even spoken about but the reason I'm talking about it is because I have seen both of you in a very close setup. When you used to come and stay with me. Exactly and there are no cameras, there is nothing and where it is just the three of us and I have seen the relationship and the security in the relationship because it is very normal to feel that if the woman is or one spouse is more successful, the other one feels insecure about it or something which

she is not at all. I want to ask you one last question before we go to the rapid fire. This resurgence that you've had, right? How has this resurgence happened first of all? How has it helped you? How did it come to you that I want to do it this way and now like we were joking in the van, you are a Miss Brand Ambassador of all the brands. So see, Sanya, I think what happens is, as I grow older, I don't know if you are allowed to abuse, on the, you start giving lesser f**ks about things as you grow older. So after a point I got the chance to, they were after me for a very long time to do YouTube

but I think it has to happen when it happens. So at that point I had already finished a new script of the movie I want to make and I knew that now again I have to wait for another couple of years and that waiting is very angsty. Yeah because it's uncertain right? Yeah so I don't want to get up with uncertainty every day. I've been through that when I was younger.

So, I said, okay, now I have 1-2 years, let me try YouTube.

It'll keep me busy and let's see, maybe I'll make some money.

And we had this conversation, you remember? And you said, I'll try now. I'll try, And try me. Something about it hit. I can't plan it. Something about it hit the bullseye. Something whether it was the candidness or the way I speak or whether it was Dilip and me. The first few times it was only Dilip and me. And I need that one person that I need to roast or tell him. Because that's my personality. So how I talk to him or tell him or because that's my personality.

So how I talked to him at home is how I was talking to him. And then it just got a life of its own and then as we went along we started realising

oh people are liking to see when we go to somebody's house they are liking to see that also.

Because people like to see the personal space of stars. Yes. And I was very clear that please do not depend on for me to bring celebrities. If they come, good enough. If they don't come also, the show should do well. But you know Farah, one of the things and I have said this to so many people, you know, you're somebody who's been an extremely successful person at what you

did, right? You were a choreographer, then a director and very very successful. But you didn't have that qualms that no I won't go to his house, I won't do this. You were ready to do it. I am telling you I feel the show has to work on its own. It should not be reliant on how big. In fact some of the people that we have shot with unexpectedly are not the biggest stars and there things have gone viral. So that is why when I tell brands also that you cannot tell me that you will put your brand only for Sanya Mirza and Karan Johar and will not put it if it's a TV star or a YouTuber. Because regardless of every guest is important.

Because that hierarchy you didn't want and you negated that completely.

Someone just did a research on my YouTube channel by the way which I got to read is how I democratised, made it democratic. That there's a YouTuber also, there's a truck driver also and there's Sanya Mirza, Karan

Johar, Kajol, Ajay Devgn also and everyone gets equal time. And Dilip also. And Dilip is now the brand ambassador of all stars. So every movie I made also, I would make sure my assistant director was acting in the movie, my cameraman was doing the camera work. Now my manager is now in ads and all with me.

I'm like, he's got a character, he'll do it. So maybe actors will get angry with me now. Wanna be actors? Because I'm just protecting people. Maybe they'll come and start working for you. Yeah, I have a long line of cooks waiting. Are you auditioning for the next film?

No.

You will have the best looking cooks and drivers. All these people who are writing. I've also noticed that best looking don't work. Oddball always works. We are now going to go into the rapid fire. We have done many rapid fires before. You also have to answer the question.

Okay, I'll answer. A trip with just you and me or us and our kids? You and me na?

You and me, please.

You and me? Choreography, direction or content creation? Pick one. Only one I have to pick? Yeah, no? So maximum money is in content creation. This is when a person who has made a 300 crore film. Maximum money personally I made in content creation but if you ask me what I want to do, I'll do direction. That's what you want to do.

That's my thing. Who cooks better you or them? No, I teach him first but now he does cook better than me. But I can vouch that she is a very, very good cook. Yeah, so I teach him but because he is everyday doing it and he copies very well.

He does.

Yeah, like if you teach him one or two. This chicken is exactly how you used to make it. And also it's exactly after 10 days if he makes for you, you will taste exactly.

There's consistency.

Yeah. Om Shanti Om or Main Hoon Na. For me it'll always be Main Hoon Na. I knew the answer. Any song that you choreographed, even today you think about it and you're like that was, man I did an incredible job at it.

Well so many songs.

But one you name now. Chaiya Chaiya. I think like that or like how the hell did we just went and did it? Yeah and on a train. On a train no harness, no nothing. Nothing just yeah. Just dancing.

This is a question, biggest diva, Bollywood diva you've worked with? Oh my god, has to be Dilip.

Bollywood diva?

He cannot get up, he has to go for shoot and I'm cooking food, don't disturb me. He's become quite the diva. One up and coming female director that you are excited to see? I don't know up and coming but I'm always excited to see Zoya's films. If there was a movie made on you, who would play you? Rakhi Sawant.

Who would play you? Jamiehi Sawant. Who would play you?

Gemi Lever would play me. She will do an incredible job. She is too good. Gemi Lever would play me. Can you imagine that film? If any of your kids wanted to join or want to join Bollywood.

They don't want to. But what if they change their mind? They are only 18. At 18 if you don't know whether you want to join or not join let me tell you it's too late. At 18 your son can't say I want to play tennis now. No that's true. So by 18 if they have no inclination then it's better that they don't join. If your WhatsApp chats were deleted or leaked who would be the most embarrassed? embarrassed. Puneet Malhotra. Most embarrassed. Or that group chat that we had. I forgot what

the name was. Lukha gang.

Okay, we have reached the last segment. You have to tell me if you had to give shout outs to people. Who would you cast? Like I have to shout at people? That you do anyway. No. You just have to say the name of who you cast in these kind of things. You can't take my name. Please. Okay. If you were in a crisis, besides me, who would you call at 3am? 3am? There's only one person awake at 3am. Shahrukh. But he has to answer the phone. That is true. He has to pick up the phone. So that may be difficult. Maybe Karan. Yeah, Karan.

I'll also answer but... Yeah, but you said not to take your name.

Yeah, after me.

Okay.

If you wanted to rant about someone without being judged.

To?

To whom would you rant to? Without being judged. See, I cannot rant to Avinash because I'll be judged about it. So, I have... Punit.

Punit I can rant.

Because he will rant back. Yeah, because he'll whole day ranting. He'll rant back. If you wanted to discuss a new film idea, who would you go to? My son. Yeah, not Chirish?

No. My ideas and Chirish's ideas are very different. My son is very into my movies now. Isn't that amazing? But he's also your favourite child. That's not true. That's really not true.

That is true.

If you wanted an honest and brutal opinion about yourself, advice or...

I want to tell you I get it everyday from Shiresh. And I don't want it.

He's just giving you your medicine who you give to everybody else. I don't want an honest and brutal appraisal. If there is someone then who would it be who you would want to thank for your career or somebody who gave you a break or? So many people, Mansoor Khan for giving me a break in Jojeeta but I think Shahrukh for giving me a break as a director and letting me make three of my biggest movies. And this one again I don't know why this question is there but if you want to make a rom-com with two female leads.

Means it's a lesbian rom-com. I don't know. I guess so. I don't want to make this movie. Can I make a rom-com about an older lady and a hot superstar? Yeah. Me and Tom Cruise. Poor Tom Cruise is really, really with that thank you for being on this show.

Anytime.

And this podcast and for being so honest as always.

As always.

But before you go, we want to give you something. Yeah, we are giving you something very, very nice. We're giving you something from Solitario.

Oh wow.

Other diamonds.

You can't open it. There is something in the box. Is that why you checked the last box?

Yeah.

Sometimes you'll just give empty boxes.

No, but thank you for coming. No, but thank you for coming. Don't forget to watch this episode on Myntra Glamstream, play to stay.