BOMBSHELL EPSTEIN EMAILS CLAIM TRUMP KNEW EVERYTHING

We have breaking news for everyone this morning. The House Oversight Committee's Democrats released several emails from Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislain Maxwell, and author Michael Wolff that offer more insight into Donald Trump's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. We can go through some of these emails. We're going to put them up on the screen.

My goodness. So, first of all, 2011, you have Jeffrey Epstein emailing Ghislain Maxwell saying, I want you to realize that that dog that hasn't barked is Trump, redacted victim's name, spent hours at my house with him. He has never once been mentioned,

police chief, etc. I'm 75 percent there. Maxwell responded again, this is 2011, April 2011. I have been thinking about that, dot, dot, dot. Another set of emails here. Fast forward to 2015.

This is Jeffrey Epstein, December of 2015. CNN is hosting a primary debate for Republicans as Donald Trump is, you know, completely rocketing up in the polls. I hear CNN, Epstein, Michael Wolff writes to Epstein, I hear CNN is planning to ask Trump tonight about his relationship with you,

either on air or in scrum afterwards. I want to just pause there, by the way, for a moment. This is Michael Wolff pulling a little bit of, what, a Donna Brazile, like, tipping off Jeffrey Epstein to something in the gossip, in the milieu surrounding Michael Wolff about a question

in a presidential debate. Epstein replies, if we were able to craft an answer for him, what do you think it should be? So basically, Wolff and Epstein are trying to preemptively give Donald Trump a little something to work with that might be beneficial to them in the long run. Here is Wolf, who styles himself as a journalist who is critical of Donald Trump and is something of a,

Crystal, do you have any, like, do you have any thoughts on this Wolf part of it all? Because it's making me so mad that I can't even really speak to see these emails. It's not surprising in any way whatsoever, but to see how emails. It's not surprising in any way whatsoever, but to see how

involved he was and then to watch him try to claim the moral high ground as like an Instagram

TikTok celebrity is deeply, deeply irritating. Well, I think you see a window into his methods in particular where, I mean, this is part of how he, he and the first Trump White House apparently was a fixture, like, just hanging out there all the time. And clearly, he gives people the sense of, like, I'm on your side, I'm giving you advice.

Like, we're in this thing together. And then that's how he ingratiates himself to wealthy, powerful, or in the case of, you know, Jeffrey Epstein, wealthy, powerful, and notorious people, and is able to write about it. And Michael Wolff has been, you know, out there talking about, hey, I've seen pictures of Donald Trump with girls of

uncertain age. I've, you know, here's what Epstein told me about Trump. He also claimed that Epstein had a lot of insider knowledge into Trump's first administration, so still had a lot of connectivity there. In any case, with regard to this, you know, this question of, oh, he might get asked a debate question about this. CNN did not ask him about Epstein at that debate. Probably would have been a good question to ask him, but that didn't get asked at that debate or in the scrum. And then do you have the other email, Emily, where they're talking about

Trump spending hours with one of the victims? Yes. So this is from 2019. And this is from Jeffrey Epstein to Michael Wolff. So it says, victim name redacted, Mar-a-Lago, redacted. Trump said he asked me to resign. Never a member ever.

Of course he knew about the girls. He asked Ghislaine to stop. And this is after, by the way, back in 2015 that Wolff emailed the advice from Michael Wolff to Jeffrey Epstein about potentially crafting a response to hand Donald Trump was, I think you should let him hang himself.

If he says he hasn't been on the plane or to the house, then that gives you a valuable PR and political currency. You can hang him in a way that potentially generates a positive benefit for you, or if it really looks like he could win, you could save him, generating a debt. Interesting line right there. Of course, Wolf continues, it is possible that when asked, he'll say Jeffrey is a great guy and has gotten a raw deal and is a victim of political correctness, which is to be outlawed in a Trump

regime. Now, when he says, of course Trump knew about the girls, this is from Jeffrey Epstein, he asked Ghislaine to stop. That is in the strangest way ever confirmation of what Donald Trump has said, which is also in the strangest way ever confirmation that he clearly knew, as he alluded to in media reports before he was president, before Epstein became such a mythical figure.

Trump said Jeffrey likes him on the younger side. He said recently, I think he was on Air Force One within just the last few months, saying, yeah, that we, they were stealing girls from Mar-a-Lago, which is exactly what happened to Virginia Jafray, who was working at Mar-a-Lago, was poached by Galen Maxwell at Mar-a-Lago. So these emails, again, these are ones released

by the Democrats on the House Oversight Committee. As the government shutdown ends, Mike Johnson is going to face enormous pressure to bring an Epstein vote to the floor. There may even be a discharge petition that goes around Mike Johnson to bring some of vote to the floor. There may even be a discharge petition that goes around Mike Johnson

to bring some of this to the floor. So Crystal, no surprise that we are starting to see these as the government looks poised to reopen, hopefully forcing a vote.

Yeah, and Trump even got asked specifically, was when you're talking about they were stealing girls from Mar-a-Lago, are you talking about Virginia Guffray? And he said something to the effect of, yeah, I think I am. I think I am talking about her.

And so it is strange the way that their two stories, in a sense, confirm each other. Because Jeffrey says, of course he knew. Because we were taking girls from there. And he told Ghislaine to stop. So he knew exactly what was going on.

And then you add to that the color of, he spent hours with a victim and then him pondering, like, why isn't why isn't Donald Trump getting mentioned in all of the coverage surrounding me? And, you know, I mean, that would be that would be a sort of head scratching thing, given how close we know that they their lives were intertwined for years and years, where, you know, again, according to Michael Wolff and Jeffrey

Epstein, Epstein and Trump were besties. They were super close. They were hanging out in New York City. They were hanging out down in Palm Beach, you know, both living this sort of high flying lifestyle, both of them loving women in Epstein's case, girls. And so, you know, these paint helped it

to fill in some of that portrait. And yesterday, Sagar and I covered the unbelievable special treatment that Ghislaine Maxwell is getting in her club-fed prison. First of all, she's not even supposed to be

in this club-fed prison because she's a sex offender. That's number one. Number two, they're providing her with extraordinary perks, what they described as concierge service. One of the prison officials said, I'm tired of being Ghislaine Maxwell's bitch,

because she's getting, she got a freaking puppy.

She's got a puppy.

She gets special meals. She gets to go to the exercise area when no one else is there. She gets to have these long meetings where people bring in computers so she can communicate with the outside world in whatever kind of way she wants.

Oh, and lo and behold, she's filling out her application for a presidential commutation. Gee, why is she getting such special treatment? I wonder. I mean, it doesn't take a genius to figure out. Trump is afraid of what she has on him,

what she would say about him, and so he is directing his administration to make sure you keep Ghislaine happy. Do what you need. And every time that he gets asked about a potential partner commutation

for Ghislaine Maxwell, he demurs. He will not say, one way or another, whether he would consider that. Because, you know, as soon as she got moved to Club Fed and started getting this cushy treatment, well, that's when the leaks to The Wall Street Journal and other places about the birthday book and other things, that's when those leaks stopped.

So again, put two and two together, you can likely see, OK, those initial leaks were kind of a shot across the bow, like, hey, here's a little taste of what I might have, what I might be able to say about you. And again, given their long history together and the incredibly guilty and bizarre way that the Trump administration has acted around the Epstein files, um, you know, it's, I don't think anyone should be surprised that some of this is coming out. And Emily, um, you know, one example of that is they refused to swear an Adelita Grijalva for almost two months, seven full weeks. They refused

to swear this lady in, meaning that that district has no representation whatsoever in Congress, just so they would not have another vote on that Epstein discharge petition. Mike Johnson, like, shut down the entire House and ended the session to avoid that vote previously. You know, they are and the way that this has really undercut their reputation as though we're outsiders, we're going to shine a light on the truth here. You know, it tells you they he is very concerned about what could potentially come out and be contained in emails, in government records,

in FBI searches, whatever sort of material they were able to obtain. CIA, Ryan and Dropsite have been doing, and Maz Hussein, Murtaza Hussein have been doing, the only reporting, by the way, an extraordinary reporting, confirming that Jeffrey Epstein, yes, in fact,

was an Israeli intelligence asset. So surely the CIA would have a lot to say about this guy as well. reporting, confirming that Jeffrey Epstein, yes, in fact, was an Israeli intelligence asset. So surely the CIA would have a lot to say about this guy as well. And the Republicans, led by Trump and Mike Johnson, have gone to extraordinary lengths

to try to keep any of this from becoming public. So I'm wondering, actually, if the House Oversight Committee got these emails from Michael Wolff. I think that seems to be the most likely case. It potentially could have come from Ghislain Maxwell, who was meeting with, obviously, Deputy AG Todd Blanch. Over the last several months,

that's certainly possible as well. Johnson is set to swear in Adelita Gralva today, and that's the vote they need for the discharge petition, which Thomas Massey, I believe Marjorie Taylor Greene, among other Republicans, or among the Republican conference, support. So that gets them around Mike Johnson to a vote demanding a release of all of the Epstein

files. And so the House Oversight Committee had that conversation back and forth with Alex Acosta, former Labor Secretary nominee who dropped out because of Vicky Ward's reporting and other information surrounding the sweetheart deal in Florida that happened under his watch regarding Epstein. And the House Oversight Committee asked about that Vicky Ward quote from an anonymous source, many people speculate to be Steve Bannon, that Acosta says he was told Epstein belonged

to intelligence and to leave him alone. Acosta denied basically that in spirit, but he wasn't really, I mean, there are a lot of other ways that that question could have been posed to him to get around the technicalities of whether Epstein was an asset or an agent and who told him what, that the House Oversight Committee just did not get to the bottom of in that interview, at least according to the transcript of it that we have.

So Crystal, this story to see in writing from Jeffrey Epstein that Trump has never once been mentioned by a police chief, et cetera. I don't know what Epstein means when he says, I'm 75% there, but it sounds like maybe he's speculating that Trump is cooperating with an investigation.

Hmm. I don't know. Yeah, I didn't know what that 75% there piece meant, but I just want to underscore for people why this matters. You know, Ryan and Maz's reporting has proven the deep ties that Epstein did, in fact, have with the Israeli government

and Israeli intelligence specifically. You can go and read their numerous stories at this point based on the leak of a former Israeli prime minister's emails, which also worth noting, as we always do, any mainstream outlet could have looked at these emails and reported them

out. They're all sitting out there for anyone to report on. They are the only ones who have put that aside. So you're the President of the United States. And you know, whatever, whatever things you did, or you know, you're worried that Jeffrey Epstein knows about, you have to assume that the Israelis know about as well.

You have to assume that, right? And so what kind of pressure does that create in your relationship? How does that impact your foreign policy and the way you conduct yourself vis-a-vis this state. That's one of the most obvious reasons why this reporting and getting to the bottom of this

is so incredibly, incredibly important. Because even if Jeffrey Epstein, there's all sorts of reports about the cameras he had and the sort of documentation he kept. Even if he didn't actually have the goods on whatever it is that Trump is terrified

of coming out about him, and clearly there are things he is terrified of coming out about him, even if Epstein didn't have the goods, you have to assume that he did. And you have to assume that he was sharing

that information with his very close friends, allies, business partners in the Israeli government. So, I mean, that is extraordinary and incredibly important for the American people to know and understand.

I thought it was so important because when people say, I think, you know, Trump and then some Republicans who rushed to defend Trump, and it happened with Democrats under the Biden administration say, this is a silly sideshow. It's not in the question of foreign policy, right?

People have important questions on their plate every single day about cost of living and just trying to put food on the table, keep a job, all of that. Yes, our foreign policy is downstream of the shadow government in many ways that we aren't quite aware of. And that sounds crazy, but go ahead, read the emails that the mainstream media probably isn't covering because they don't want to go into what looks like a hack from Iran.

But one that Ryan and Maz are confirming is verifiable by talking to people saying, is this, these emails, this is you in this email, is this a real email, et cetera. So when you see it put so plainly in those drop site stories, Jeffrey Epstein and Ahu Barak were puppet masters and they were doing it, putting it in writing. We have that evidence for everybody to see. They were actually pulling the strings of geopolitics and foreign policy, willing and

dealing in their punctuation error-laden emails, which Ryan says is a power move. I'm not so sure that it's—I agree it's a power move. It may just reflect actual incompetence. And that is remarkable when you look at it because you see how few people have such disproportionate control over foreign policy. Foreign policy affects domestic policy.

So these are enormously serious questions. And I think Epstein is an example of something that is still happening right now with other names that we just don't know.

And I think that Trump and the Republicans had hoped they had kind of put this story to bed. You know, it was quiet there for a while. We weren't getting any new leaks. The Republican efforts, Mike Johnson's efforts at least, to stonewall in the House had been successful.

It was very much on the back burner. And, Sagar and I were talking about this, and I, what I said is, but this is the sort of thing that can erupt back into the public consciousness at any time. Because it's completely unresolved. And, you know, I think a lot of MAGA

that were upset about it at first, kind of made their peace with it, kind of like bought into some convoluted like, Oh, actually, Trump is playing the deep state somehow, or they're fake or Clinton, Comey, whatever, they just were like, Alright, we're just gonna move on. When things like this come out makes it pretty hard for you to just like, close your eyes and pretend like nothing's happening here and pretending like pretend like this is all fine,

especially when you have a voice, a renegade voice like Marjorie Taylor Greene out there who is willing to make her own side uncomfortable for whatever reason she's doing it. She is that voice right now willing to make her own side uncomfortable. So you know, we talked about the MAGA revolt. When you have a president who was just weakened by an extraordinary electoral defeat for his party really across the board. You know, he's effectively already a lame duck, at least not is not legally allowed

to run for another term, is aging very clearly in front of our eyes, you know, sleeping through White House events at this point and outsourcing major parts of his administration to his aides seems to only really care about like his his parties at Mar-a-Lago and his renovations. Yeah, when you have all of those sorts of things, then people start to feel a little bit bolder

about their criticism and start to be looking at and contemplating, OK, well, what is the world after Trump going to look like? And where is the place to be? How to position myself in that world? So I think even as Democrats just

capitulate and are embarrassing and all of that sort of stuff, you also have Trump at a becoming increasingly sort of weakened in his own administration. Approval rating is very low. Some errors starting to come at him from his own side, economic troubles, and a lot of unfulfilled promises. And then you add this to the mix. It's a pretty challenging landscape for him, I would say.

Right. Yeah, I think after those elections last week, it's becoming clear to the administration that they're approaching the one-year mark. And after you get past that one-year itch, as we've talked about, Crystal, before in the show today, you can't keep blaming Biden. I mean, you can, but whether or not you're successful

at continuing to blame the Biden administration for what you inherited, yeah, people are not going to buy it, and you are Mr. Drain the Swamp. So as emails come out showing you part of a swamp, and then when you campaign, you know, when you're not in power, it's easy to say, yeah,

yeah, we'll release the Epstein emails, even though Trump was a little bit more hesitant about those than JFK files and such during the campaign. But when you're actually in power, you can't just say like, yeah, yeah, we'll get to that, we'll get to that. that's the predicate for your political career. That's where you see the people like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Thomas Massey breaking away from Trump on that particular question.

All right, guys, very fortunate on last-minute notice here to get Congressman Ro Khanna to join us this morning. Of course, he has been the Democrat leading the push to get the Epstein files released. Great to see you, Congressman.

Two breaking-point appearances in the same week. Must be my lucky week here.

Our lucky week. Yeah. People are very interested in what you had to say last time. I have a suspicion they're going to be very interested in what you have to say today as well. Emily and I just went through some of

the new e-mails that were released tying Donald Trump directly to Jeffrey Epstein. First question for you is just why are these emails coming out now? What was the chain of events that led to these revelations?

Well, I was on Lawrence O'Donnell about three months ago and the attorney for the survivors is the guest right before me. He says, I don't understand why no one has subpoenaed the Epstein estate.

Shockingly, Pam Bondi, Kash Patel, and no one in Congress had done it. So I talked to Comer, I said, we've got to get these documents. And to his credit, he subpoenas the Epstein estate. And the Epstein estate has been producing these documents

drip by drip by drip. And today, of course, comes out the first time some of the emails saying that Trump knew about the abuse of these young girls and the guilty conduct. And I expect far more documents are going to be coming out over the next couple months.

Hmm. Is the — I mean, I was speculating earlier that maybe these e-mails came from Michael Wolff or Ghislaine. Are you able to tell us anything about that, Congressman?

Not the specifics of who they're coming from other than the Epstein estate and that the estate has thousands of more documents. But what this really says is we've got to get the full release. We shouldn't be relying on the Epstein estate to be giving us piecemeal documents.

We have the full files at the Justice Department. Those files have all of the interviews that were taken with men who abused these young girls, with people who were involved in the cover-up. And today, as you know, Adelita Grojowa gets sworn in. We get 218 signatures. And that triggers a vote in seven days in the House to release these files.

The bombshell document dropped today, I think, is going to increase the stakes of just saying, get this out there.

Yeah, no doubt about it. And just your reaction to what we learned today. So we had emails from Jeffrey Epstein saying, first of all, of course, Trump knew about what was going on with the girls because he told Ghislaine Maxwell to stop. He also claimed that Trump had spent hours with one of the victims.

You also see him strategizing with Michael Wolff about a potential question to Donald Trump in the debates during 2015. Those questions didn't end up getting asked, but in any case, interesting to see them strategizing back and forth.

You see them talking about how surprised they are that Trump hasn't been brought up in the context of Jeffrey Epstein in a more significant way, given their longstanding ties. So what is your reaction to the content of these emails?

Well, this whole Epstein class needs to go. The issue in American politics is in left to right. It's, are you for working,

ordering Americans?

Are you for this Epstein class? And this is what's so important about those emails. It's not just rich and powerful men who may have abused and raped young girls.

It's a lot of rich and powerful people who knew that the abuse was going on and did nothing about it and actually still solicited Epstein for funding and were friends with Epstein and just swept it under the rug.

And what these emails show is Donald Trump was aware of what was going on and that it was such a culture of abuse that people just thought, oh, this is just the way the world works. Well, their time is up.

People are sick of it. Anyone involved in this stuff needs to move aside. We need to have a moral cleansing in this country.

And Congressman, just if this discharge petition goes through, as I think everyone can do the math and expect it to at this point, what ways might the White House and the administration have to wiggle around? What do we expect potentially to see from them, assuming that they try to continue blocking access to some of those files?

What could we expect in terms of their methods of blocking release?

Well, first of all, there's a full-court press today to try to get one of these Republicans to drop before Adelita Grajalva gets sworn in at 4 p.m. I'm pretty confident they won't, but it's not done until 4 o'clock. And then Johnson has dozens of procedural motions. He can try to obstruct it. I mean, we could spend the whole day talking about the tools he has. The confidence I have, though, is that there

are a lot of Republicans who do not want the discharge petition tool to be rendered useless. They want to use it to get a bill on banning stock trading. They want to use it to get votes on other reforms. So I am hopeful the coalition

will hold to say, no, you've got to bring this for a vote, because if Johnson stops our petition from getting a vote, that will hurt Luna and Chip Roy and any Republican

who wants to bring any bill using that mechanism.

Congressman, do you have any other plans to, you know, public event awareness raising to sort of focus in scrutiny on the lack of transparency on the Epstein files and on the horrific abuse of these women?

We do. We have a press conference that Thomas Masie, Marjorie Taylor Greene and I are planning next week. And a number of survivors from around the country are going to be flying in, some who have not spoken out before. You know, Mike Johnson keeps thinking, OK, if you just shut down Congress long enough, people are going to forget. But he doesn't realize that this story has gripped the American people.

They know there was horrific acts that were committed. And I think when they hear from these women again, these brave women on next week, it's going to make sure that we have action and an overwhelming vote in the House of Representatives.

Well please keep us updated as always, Congressman.

Yeah.

Thank you for joining us last minute, Congressman. Great to see you.

Appreciate it. Great to see you as always. Thank you.

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