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Harry and Meghan face being snubbed from the biggest Hollywood wedding of the year.This is going to be humiliating for Harry and Meghan.

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This is Harry and Meghan's worst nightmare.It's devastating.It's a setback.But Harry, in my opinion, James, I think is existential.So financially, he's in the doo doo.Hollywood's abandoned him.

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Why has the nuclear button not been pressed of essentially throwing out?

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We are sitting on a bombshell exclusive, a massive, massive story.Mark.Welcome back to the show.Great to have you again.

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No JJ once more.No, well, that's it.I'm afraid you've been a rather successful stand -in.

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Our viewers are loving it.Well, one viewer in the comments said, where is JJ?Why is Mr. Bean hosting the podcast?I'd just like to say that's quite unfair on Mr. Bean.When you say so, Mark.

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Well, we're all a bit buffoonery, but I tell you what, aren't we sitting on some big ones today?

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We are sitting on a bombshell exclusive, Mark.A massive, massive story.This is going to be humiliating for Harry and Meghan.Hollywood is turning its back on the Sussexes.Here's the story, Mark.The Sunday Express has reported exclusively that Harry and Meghan face being snubbed from the biggest Hollywood wedding of the year.

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Mark, Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau are set to wed, that's the rumour round town, right, that's the rumour in Tinseltown, that Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau are going to get married later this year.It's going to be the Hollywood event of the year, perhaps the Hollywood event of the decade.Major political power brokers are going to be there, every household name in Tinseltown is going to be there, the big stars from the movies, everyone you can imagine is going to be there.Do you know who's not going to be there, Mark?Harry and Meghan.What does that mean for them?

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Harry and Meghan's worst nightmare.The Sussex brand is in May.And this is a double snub, because it's Katy Perry snubbing Meghan, whose background is in the world of entertainment as a TV actress.Katy Perry, one of the most famous singers in the world.So that's a blow to Meghan.Meanwhile, Justin Trudeau is the former Prime Minister of Canada.

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And that's a blow to Harry, because Harry sees himself as this global influencer, sees himself in the mold of some of those ex -presidents like Barack Obama.an ex -prime minister like Trudeau.He sees himself as a sort of George Clooney figure, if you like.You know, you've got your business interests and you've got your career, but you're trying to make the world a better place.Keynote speeches.Of course, there are other examples of people that Harry models himself on.

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That's why he's got Invictus.He wants to kind of transcend his royal status.Well, good luck with that.When the ex -prime minister of Canada doesn't invite you, to your wedding.And so it's devastating.It's a setback.

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It's a big, big practical problem.And there are so many aspects to which this is an insult.They're quite well known, Harry and Meghan, and you might expect Katy Perry and Trudeau to invite them just to have a few more celebs in the crowd.And we saw that with Taylor Swift, who invited anyone she's ever met to come to her wedding.And I think one of the reasons why, fair play to her, you know, she is showbiz, right?She did her wedding in a very Taylor Swift way.

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Not in a very tasteful way.

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No, but that, you know, the thing is, that's not the brand.That's why you see it's so devastating for Harry and Meghan not to be invited to this wedding, Katy Perry and Trudeau is becauseHarry and Meghan's brand is that we're part of this world.That's how they identify as global celebrities.So if they're not there, well then they're not global celebrities and they're not players in Hollywood.So it demonstrates that not only are they global, irrelevant to the point where Katy Perry's like, well, we don't need them there.

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I've got enough famous friends.I think it's worse than that.I think it's because Katy Perry, who's got her head screwed on, she's not a stupid girl.She's thinking if I invite these two upstarts, we're going to have bad headlines.There's going to be a fight over what was written in the invitation.There's going to be a row over whether they were photographed at the venue.

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Meghan may have been a victim of some micro aggression over the wedding cake that she wasn't offered the cake first.She didn't get to cut it.That's exactly it.So, you know, would you invite this couple who are experts in misery and who generates bad headlines?on a daily basis.I mean, all they do is bring, do you remember a little while ago we were talking about the MasterChef show?

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You say a little while ago, Mark, that was yesterday, mate.

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It was quite extraordinary.

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Feels like a long time, right?

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Elephant memory.Bottom line is that, you know, that was just an invitation onto a cookery show and it ends in a row and bad headlines.So I think maybe Katy Perry doesn't want that.It's humiliating.for Harry because, you know, he wants to consider himself an equal of Justin Trudeau.He wants to think that he's the ex -president of some particular place.

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And, you know, especially I would say it's worse for Harry than Meghan because Meghan, OK,you know what the world of showbiz is like, you're hot, you're not hot, it changes by the day.It's a little bit like the stock market.And if Meghan does a different show with another streaming giant, and then it's a hit, suddenly she's back in.I'm a huge fan of Peter Sellers, the comedy actor, if you remember him.And he was a massive star across the world and in America.

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And then he had a few flop movies.And he was in LA and he said there were famous people and also influential people that crossed the road to avoid him.And then a few years later, he comes back with the Pink Panther and he's back.So Megan can have her ups and downs.And it's a terrible hit, but we'll take it.For Harry, in my opinion, James, I think it's existential because if Justin Trudeau does not want Harry there.

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Well, then Harry's entire identity is gone.

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He's a charity man, right?He's the sort of soft diplomat.He's the...Thank you.He's the showman, right?Well, not so much the showman.

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He's the kind of, what would you call it, Mark?The philanthropist.That's exactly it.He's a philanthropist.He's supposed to be that kind of guy, the dignified guy.You can be seen with the royal guy who's going on, he's going his own way, doing international stuff rather than just staying at home and cutting ribbons.

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Making the world a better place.

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That was the whole reason he left the whole institution, right?

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Exactly like an ex -politician.And that's what ex -politicians do.US presidents, they have their library and then they go around and they make sort of non -political speeches that are hopefully just going to like enhance the discourse.And that's how Harry sees himself.And that's why we're staring down the barrel of a big thing here for Harry, which is existential.Like I said, you know, Megan, okay.

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You know, Hollywood is done with Megan.That's fine.It's an ugly business.It's a tough town.She'll bounce back.If there's one thing we know about Megs, she's determined and she's ruthless, but she's also resilient.

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Harry, on the other hand, you could have a perfect storm.whereby, well, we know that he's not bringing any money in.The speaking engagements have gone from a million dollars per speech to 50k.And even those jobs I'm told are not coming in.And then, you know, he's made his money with spare.Do they want a second book?

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Not by the looks of it.And of course, how does he rebuild his relationship with Charles if that's another book on the way?Ain't gonna happen.So financially, he's in the doo -doo and his comfort zone, not making any money is to say, all right, well, I don't make money, but I am this global figure.Well, wait a minute.People like Justin Trudeau don't want you at their wedding, which would have been the ultimate blessing to say, you know, you're one of us.

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You're a player.Okay.But, but then what if he loses Invictus too?Because as we've reported on this show, Paula Froelich is a brilliant journalist.Paula Froelich unfiltered, right?Unmissable YouTube show.

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she's reporting that next year's Invictus could be Harry's last, well, could be the last Invictus altogether.I suspect it will always survive nominally as some kind of, a little bit like R12 Philanthropies, which changes the name every 10 minutes.But it's not impossible.I know it's not impossible that Invictus is effectively shuttered after next year.At which point, what is Harry for?

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Well, at that point, he's left royal life.So he's no longer a royal.He hasn't got Invictus Games, which I think is a very noble event.It's a great, I mean, it's quite sad that it might be.Well, the people are great.The events are not so much.

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Well, the people are great.I mean, I only say that with the outrageous cost, but I love the veterans involved.The charity stuff, that's all dried up with the whole Sentebale scandal, right?So what's left to him?Well, what's left to him, Mark, is appearing down on a Zoom call.on MasterChef Australia on the fourth highest rated network in the country.

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kind of one thing's for sure.It was embarrassing to say that the chat about masterchef Australia, it was, it may have been yesterday.One thing for sure.It was not today.And I've changed my outfit.

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You definitely have changed your outfit.It's definitely not today.I know it's odd because you're wearing the same clothes, but I just, I was out late drinking or something.

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I heard that your girlfriend left you and you don't know where the iron is.So you just wore the same outfit.Have you ever done that?By the way, you wake up in the morning and you smell the shirt and you're like, that will do.

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Absolutely not.I'm a grown man.I've revealed too much in that anecdote.

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Because where's the wedding going to happen?

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Well, Mark, the wedding is going to happen most likely in Montecito itself, Harry and Meghan's backyard.They're completely ostracised, right, Mark?I mean, Paul and Ferry look like you say.Great show.She was on this show as well.Amazing episode.

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Go watch it if you can find it.I'll put it in the description below.She said all their neighbours in Montecito hate them.And why is that, Mark?Do you know?

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Well, I know that it's been reported that they're not exactly locally active.

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That's one way of putting it.

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There was a kindly old man that approached their mansion with a DVD of the history of Montecito, which he thought might be of interest.And he got short shrift reporting.and went to the press saying, you know, I just wanted them to know about the area that they now live in.

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No way.And felt quite abandoned.

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Wow.That's shocking.Yeah, that was widely reported.

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That was one of their neighbours?Mm -hmm.

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It's a quite historic place, Montecito.It wasn't always the playground of the rich.Deary me.They really are up themselves, aren't they, those two?Well, look, apparently that doesn't fly well with their other neighbours, big -name neighbours.Gwyneth Paltrow, Jennifer Aniston, Kevin Costner, Steven Spielberg, you may have heard of him.

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Once or twice.Sunday Express is hearing that all of them, without fail, are keeping their distance from the Sussexes.And this one, Mark, is even more dramatic.This is a huge bombshell.Even Oprah is quietly distancing herself from Meghan and Harry.How does that play for Harry and Meghan?

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Well, it's a disaster.And it must be a very lonely place to be in Montecito, but not loved by Hollywood, because Montecito is essentially Hollywood suburbia, isn't it?It's rich Hollywood suburbia.It's it's where these stars actually live, because people think they're all on the Hollywood Hills and all of that.No, no, no.You got an estate an hour, an hour and a half away.

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Lots of land, much safer as well, security or the rest of it, which is why all these big stars are there.And it's got to really hurt.I mean, the falling out, which I reported on the Mark Dolan show between Gwyneth Paltrow and Megan was wild.And this is because Gwyneth Paltrow, who's an incredibly talented actress, I mean, in my opinion, James, Gwyneth is everything that Megan wants to be, because Gwyneth did a bit of acting, consequences of which were part of the Marvel universe.So she's sold hundreds of millions of tickets.So she's done the box office popcorn movie.

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She's done the art house.kind of award -winning stuff.She's Oscar winning.So she's nailed acting.Now she picks and chooses what she wants.

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Selling her weird candles, but they're doing well.

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Well, what she's got Gwyneth is something called eggs, which go in an intimate region.

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We'll move on.

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And I'm not going to, we don't have to, I don't have to say where the egg goes.I could say.Use your imagination.Well, the eggs would go where the eggs maybe would in principle emanate from.Yeah.And so the egg goes back in.

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I just want you to know, full disclosure, because Gwyneth's litigious.

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OK.

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And so I'm going to tell you that I'm wearing three of Gwyneth's eggs at the moment.Oh, dearie me.Yes.And I've never felt better.I've not blinked once since I sat down.Oh, my God.

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I'm sweating slightly, but I'm told that's good.It's called exfoliation.Look, the bottom line is they went in very easy, which I think's surprising.Um, Gwyneth, right?Gwyneth is everything Megan wants to be Oscar winning actress.She has the website, which is called goop, which is equivalent to Megan's whole, the TIG business.

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And also the, we'd love Megan.Well, goop is very successful enterprise.

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She sells stuff.

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Yeah.And she's got a big team and it's also makes headlines.And then she's Hollywood royalty.Cause her father is.Bruce, was Bruce Paltrow, who's a legendary director.And her mother is, is an amazing actress, beautiful lady called Blythe Danner.

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She's got a handsome Hollywood husband.She's, and these are the sort of people with pedigree.Gwyneth, I know, by the way, not all of our viewers like Gwyn.

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Okay.But I just think that she's not like Meghan.She's not a grifter.She's not a pretender.She's got the t -shirt.She's got the, anyway.

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So people like that, the Cloonies as well, arethe Sussexes and so it's a big big problem I mean the Cloonies don't get me started George and Harry were besties and George has effectively moved away from the Sussexes and do you want to know who he hangs out with now?

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Go on.

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William and Charles.

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That is going to hurt Harry, right?Yikes.Wow.Yikesies.So how come he's made that switch from Harry to Wills?

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I respect the Americans because the Americans, what they appreciate is endeavor.They like talent, but they especially like application of talent.And the Americans will forgive failure if it's as a result of effort.It's a myth that Americans just don't like you if you don't win.It's not true.They want to see, they love a comeback story, a redemption story.

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And if you fall down, it's about how quickly you get up.And so people like Clooney is a good example of that.He transitioned.No, that's another story.Can everyone please calm down?There goes your first YouTube strike.

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I'll see you in court.Mr Cooney, what remarks did Mr Dolan make on his popular hit show The Daily Expresso with cub reporter James Walker?He transitioned successfully from TV on the show called ER, which was a medical drama, into the movies.That's really hard to do.These days, TV is massive.It's not a problem.

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But back in the day, it was really hard.Once you're a TV actor, you were labeled, there was snobbery in Hollywood, if you were in TV.He made it.Incredible director, married to Amal, who's a human rights lawyer, beautiful lady, accomplished lady.So these people are achievers.And if he looks at Harry and Meghan, And he's like, well, they're constantly like, you know.

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lying about their lives.You've got Harry who's moaning about growing up in palaces and all this stuff, you know, defaming the royal family.And I think Clooney is just like, well, look, you know, Clooney can reflect on his own life.I've worked hard and I've made something and I've just built this with my bare hands.And then you've got this aristocrat.He's won the womb lottery.

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He turns up, decides his family are evil.And I think Clooney's like, sorry, you're not my kind of person.I can't do business with you.I think that George Clooney looks at someone like William and relates to him.Why?Because of course, William's privileged.

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Yes, a little bit.

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He's next in line to the throne.But what has William done with his life?I mean, his big focus is homelessness, the Earthshot Prize, climate change, poverty, mental health.He's getting things done.

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It's cracking on.

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And I think that Clooney will look at William and see a real, you know, consequential public figure using his platform to make a positive difference.Catherine as well, with her focus on nature and the importance of nature for mental health and particularly child development.And Amal and George will admire that too.The same with the Beckhams, the Beckham and the Sussexes fell out.He's all in with the king and he's a knight of the realm now.And David Beckham and the king exchange notes on gardening.

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and they have a whiskey together.Wow.And so there's a clear pattern emerging here.But what do Clooney, Paltrow and Beckham have in common?

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They're successful.Thank you.And like you say, Americans in particular don't want to be hanging around a man who's like, oh, it's so hard growing up in a palace and having all that money and all those chauffeurs and blah blah blah.You don't hear it, right?Americans, a lot of them build themselves up from not very much and become superstars.multimillionaires.

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The whole country's built on a philosophy of pull yourself up by the bootstraps.as Thatcher famously said, pull yourself up by the bootstraps, sort yourself out, get your life in order, and stop whinging so much, right?What does he do?He's the perennial whinger.

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And he's become a figure of ridicule on the late night talk shows, which were previously quite Harry friendly, and now they're mocking him.

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Well, they're having him on.Right, they're having him on to tell his story.

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And letting him make a fool of himself.Yeah, exactly.

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Which is, again, yeah, Hollywood's not taking him seriously.Hollywood's abandoned him.I think it's over for Harry and Meghan.

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By the way, what do you think of Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau getting married?Because in any other normal sort of scenario, that would be a conversation in itself.

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Mark, what a world we live in, eh?I mean, it's just a crazy timeline.

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If you just process, you've got, I mean, Trudeau is part of, he's part of a Canadian political dynasty.Like the Kennedys, almost.Yes.And then you've got Katy Perry, daughter of, I believe, evangelical Christians.And then she goes and throws her naked body around the place with songs like I Kissed a Girl and I Liked It.By the way, no judgment.

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I think she's a wonderful talent.

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I think she's great.

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But it's a contrast, isn't it?And by the way, Trudeau's married for many years, a couple of kids, all of that, ceases to be the Prime Minister of Canada, and now he marries a pop star.And of course, her background is her ex was Russell Brand.That's another story.I mean, what's going on?

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Who knows, Mark?Who knows?But we wish them all the best, don't we?

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Do you approve of the union?

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I think so, yeah.It's nice.Good for them.

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Good for them, I say.What's going on?What's at play?What is that?Can you explain?Because I've, I think, said too much today, right?

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Right.

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I want to get an insight into your brain.

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There's not much going on in there.

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I've heard not too much.What I want to know, what you think as a young hipster, what does she see in him?What does he see in her?Explain it to me, please.Break it down.Because there's an age gap, isn't there?

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Well, I suppose there's a bit of an age gap, but I mean, she's very successful in her own right.He's a former prime minister, right?He was prime minister for God knows how long.You've got your laptop in front of you.You can look it up.

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Yeah, I mean, certainly approaching a decade, I would say.

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Yeah, you know, he's a successful powerful man in his twilight years Good -looking fellow as well.Let's be honest.That's probably all there is to it.

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He cuts the look of a Disney Prince, doesn't he?

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Yeah floppy fringe and everything much think of Beauty and the Beast or something, isn't it?It's um, you know, I can see why they're together and all the best to them I say and I think they're clearly showing their wisdom in not inviting Harry and Meghan to their wedding So all the best from the Daily Expresso team.

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Do you think it'll work?I can give you the age gap Do you want to guess how many years is the age gap 10 13?Okay, I was close.Yeah, he's 54 and she's 41.Oh, that's not too bad.It's not horrendous, is it?

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That's fine.What challenges do you think they'll face?

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Well, they would have faced Harry and Meghan as a challenge, but that's no longer in the way.

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I mean, maybe I'm being really ageist.I mean, I'm being ageist on myself because I'm also in my 50s.I'm 52.

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Yeah.

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But I'm curious about, I think that the positive for those two is they clearly fell in love, isn't it?This is not on paper a natural match.So when people who are very different get together, you're like, oh, they must like each other because they're very different.So I think that's sweet.And they've overcome the age gap because of love, I suspect.She's probably like, look, I wasn't looking for a guy in his mid fifties, but he's special.

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I think that's what happens.If you go for an older partner, you sort of, you have to sort of like, You just take the hit, don't you?You're like, yeah, we're not we're not the same age, but he or she are amazing.Right.But I think that the challenges are going to be lifestyle related.I mean, she goes on these tours.

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She's got these fit dancers around her the whole time.He's at home with his pipe and slippers reading Canadian history.

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What's not to like about that, Mark?I don't think.What an image.

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I wish them well.I give it five years.

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What a call.What a bet.Right.Well, if you're enjoying this episode so far.

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No one expected that, did they?

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They did not.I did not, frankly.It was not in the script.If you're enjoying this episode so far.It was also a big mistake.No, it wasn't a big mistake.

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I liked it.Good chat.Look, if you're enjoying the episode so far, hit like, share, subscribe.Subscribe and don't forget what button Mark?What button have I got to hit?

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No, the other one.

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Deary me.That's what we like working with amateurs.Right.There's a hype button.Hit the hype button.More people will watch this video.

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I'm like Justin Trudeau.

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I'm very middle -aged.I don't understand these things.Mark, we are...I'm going to get Katy Perry to explain it to me.

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We are the number one daily news show on YouTube in Britain.You've got to up your game here, man.You've got to know what a hype button is.Come on, dude.Help me out here.I'm on it.

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We'll move on.Speaking of Harry and Meghan.

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I should say I'm hyping you.

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Are you enjoying this?I'm loving every second.

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I'm loving it.And I know our audience are too.I was telling you before we were on air and we weren't wearing clothes and that's another story.But I was saying that our audience will love you because you're very yourself.I'm getting there.I'm warming up.

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Mr Bean is fired up.Right.Moving on from Harry and Meghan's wedding snub, we can talk about another snub.Another royal snub, Mark.Andrew has been snubbed from Balmoral.This is what we're hearing, right?

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Sources told The Times that Andrew is not going to be invited to Balmoral this year.Why, Mark?Well, because apparently the Royal Family feel he's going to raise, well, considerable sensitivities, they feel he's going to raise if he does come to Balmoral.I think that's just a polite way, Mark, of saying he's going to give everyone the creeps.What do you think?

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Yeah, and I think it's not surprising.I think it's a smart move and maybe demonstrates a slightly more robust approach, a more muscular approach from the King.who was certainly a bit firmer with Harry in recent times with that row over Buckingham Palace.You know, the King needed, he said, look, I need a week's notice if you're going to take a room at the palace.Harry reportedly says two days beforehand, I'll take a room.King Charles is like, sorry, a deal's a deal.

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And I think you're seeing the same thing now with Andrew, which is boundaries.And I think that King Charles removed him from the Royal Lodge, which was the right thing to do.And I think what you're now seeing is the new look relationship between the family and the black sheep.Yeah.

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There was advocate here, Mark.He's not been prosecuted, right?

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Innocent until proven guilty.You know, I'm going to make that.Yeah, there was advocate here.Should they be ostracizing him if he's not been found guilty?You're a massive fan.

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You love Prince Andrew.

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Stop that now.

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Stop that now.I thought you admire him.

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Not a chance.No, he's not a role model.

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You've seen his little black book of Narnia's for life.I can't argue with that.That's even longer than JJ's.

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Speaking of which, I can't wait for him to come back.Take the seat.Who's Linda Lovelace?

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Oh, dear man.But you're right to offer the devil's avocado because actually, The guy is found guilty of no crime.Some would argue that he's been subjected to trial by media, trial by public opinion, trial by kangaroo court.I mean, what we can agree is he's a man of poor judgment.Is that a landing spot for Andrew?

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Certainly.And I should reiterate, I was making the devil's advocate position.My actual position on Andrew is much harsher.And I think actually, in my book, Mark, Charles hasn't gone far enough.Sources told the Times this, right Mark, that Andrew spends much of his time watching TV, walking his dogs and making the most of a modest stipend supposedly.from Charles.

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For my money, Mark, King Charles shouldn't be giving Andrew anything, right?The guy has done, he might not have been found guilty in a court, but we do know of his interactions with Epstein, the stuff that's come out in the Epstein files.shouldn't be getting a penny of taxpayers' money.He shouldn't be getting anything.He should be ostracized.He shouldn't be staying in royal property.

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He should be just chucked out and left to it.That's my money.What do you think?

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Well, I think you're not wrong about that.But what Charles has encountered is something called politics.And I don't mean party politics of, you know, the Labour Party or the Democrats or the Republicans.I'm talking about family politics and also the politics of the monarchy.And what I mean by that is that You need a solution.You see, politics is always about compromises.

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No one ever walks away the winner.And this is political for Charles because it's about the reputation of the monarchy.And it's also about the internal family politics.So the public politics, the monarchy, the institution, which must always justify itself because it's paid for by the taxpayer.The goodwill of the people allow the continuity of the monarchy.So if, for example, King Charles is too generous to Andrew, and welcomes him to Balmoral and gives him a stipend and lets him stay in the Royal Lodge.

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That becomes a political problem for the King, because newspapers like the Daily Express and shows like this will say, wait a minute, why am I paying for this guy to live high on the hog?So that's a political problem for Charles from a constitutional point of view.So that's why we've had the tough love.But why, therefore, has he not gone full James Walker?

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Rambo.

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Right.Why has the nuclear button not been impressed of essentially throwing out, rendering homelessness?There's a few reasons why.First of all, his safety.This is a famous man who also may have some dangerous friends or dangerous former friends.And you've got figures associated with the Epstein scandal who were alive and are not alive anymore.

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That's all I'm going to say.

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Right.And we need to say no more than that.

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Yes.

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There's a fascinating conversation we had around the passing of Epstein himself.

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Probably behind a paywall somewhere where no one could see it.Probably right.

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But he was in a jail and amazing, no security guard.And then you've got poor old Virginia Dufresne, may God rest her soul.So I'm not saying, but I would argue that the guy is not entirely an unmarked man.And of course, any crazy guy could just like you know, make some, you know, do something crazy because he's a big, famous man.So, so he needs security.He needs a degree of protection because what happens, may God forbid, if something, if you were harmed in some way, is that a good look for the king?

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Is that good for the monarchy?I don't think so.He needs to be safe.And the other issue is that they're brothers.

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Yeah.

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Charles also will take the view that this guy has been found guilty of no crime.Charles is kindly and forgiving.I mean, we know that because he's allowed Harry and Meghan to come back to Highgrove House.If that's not forgiving, I don't know what is.Yeah.So and of course, there's also the commitment that he made to his mother before she passed that he would take care of Andrew.

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who is the younger brother.And then it's also a sibling thing.Blood is thicker than water.It is your brother.So I think you go for the public politics of it is I need to be seen to act tough.Yes.

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This guy can't be living high on the hog.But I think that they felt that Sandringham was a compromise because he loses the big royal lodge.You know, he's in a relatively humble setting.He's got someone cooking his meals, but not exactly.you know, sort of, yeah, it's not the full royal kit and caboodle.Thank you very much.

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Yeah.

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So therefore, that's the compromise.And I think Balmoral is a smart move.I mean, you can't, can you imagine if he was there, you know, grinning like the idiot that sometimes he can be.And the other issue is you don't want to, you don't want to give him any encouragement.Do you remember when the Duchess of Kent sadly passed?

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He tries to chat to Wills, right?Right.And Wills just goes, yeah, I'm just trying to joke.He's trying to, and it's just kind of like, dude, read the room.You shouldn't even be here.

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That's it.

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Let alone joking around.So yeah, I think you're right.There's a certain wisdom in keeping away from Balmoral in that he just can't be trusted to read a room, to understand the situation, to understand his own position in the world now.He's just completely off with the fairies, isn't he?I mean, he's in his own little reality and he's a huge, huge liability mark.

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And there's also a possibility that you hinted at earlier that it may be that they don't like him very much.

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Quite fair.

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When you say so, because you might resent your younger brother if they brought that much damage to the family, it would be you get this all families.You have conflict, don't you?

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Yeah.

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And sometimes at Christmas or in the summer holidays or whatever, you'll be like, we're not taking cousin Ian because there's a pain in the last time he came in, he drank all that.All that white rum.I don't want to make your cousin Ian, Mark.So argumentative.I'm cousin Ian.But, but it could well be.

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And also, I mean, he's known to be a very, sorry, not arrogant, not angry, an arrogant man.Do they want this pompous twit?Because, you know, Balmoral is where they go to relax in the summer and chill out.

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Can you imagine him bumbling downstairs every morning in his dressing gown?Christ almighty.

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Creepy Uncle Andrew.Thanks, but no thanks.

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Yeah, keep him away from the kids.

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Oh, hello, darling.

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Come and sit on my knee.Well, what a thought to end on Mark.Look, that's all we've got time for today.Thanks so much for watching.Leave your comments, tell us what you think.You know, are Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau right?

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I love the hype.

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