Cam'ron & Ma$e Welcome Max B Home After 18 Years, Wave God Talks Music & More | Talk With Flee

My nigga Belfort flew in. Belfort don't come out, listen, I'm not even joking, sometimes I think he don't trust me. I'm gonna be honest with you. Sometimes I really think this nigga don't trust me because I be like yo you know we are issues and past we've been back together for like a half a decade now I asked this nigga yo where you at and he'd be like huh? Once you say huh, that mean you don't really want niggas to know.

Fuck you asking me that for? Yeah, what you mean huh? What you mean where I'm at? More Earth. But look, Beth Fluin, you knew I was gonna be here. Um, some people know him as the wave god. Some people know him as Max Bigeville.

Some people know him as the leader of a cult that I can't even explain that I didn't know what was gonna happen. Me, I know him as my nigga Charlie Rambo personally. Listen, we wanna give a big welcome home. Pardon us, we just eating and vibing.

Vibing. To my nigga Max B.

Max, what the fuck is up, bro?

What's good, man?

Bigger Val, what's good?

Bad day. Me and these niggas go back like 40 years. Yo, you know what's crazy? We some old niggas.

Yeah, and we fly, get money, cool old niggas.

We the new old niggas.

We fly old niggas. These niggas ain't gonna change the game. We on the wall. We gonna be the wall niggas. Exactly. We gonna be the old niggas from my decade, look, look. Like that. Nigga, we on the wall. I was listening, me and you was on the phone

probably a couple years ago, this was still locked up. And he was like, yo, I got some shit with me, you and Bethany, how we was in Benitez.

And I was like, Benitez?

You remember?

You remember? Nigga remember Benitez? It's crazy, my nigga. nigga but neither is wow man but Beffa and the audience I say I told the story a few times right and I don't even know if I told Belford this shit is that I remember when Max came to me and I had to this day I'm still mad about it and he told me he started rapping I was leaving the dirty kitchen on 143rd and I

was walking towards 42nd he he's on 42nd. He said, yo, yo, Kim, what's up nigga, you know I'm rapping now.

Now mind you, I know this nigga my whole life. What?

My whole life.

It's hard to sell it to you.

Yeah, it was hard to sell it to me. He said, yo, Kim, man, you know I'm rapping now. I'm like, so play too much, bro. You like, yo, I'm dead serious, man. I'm telling you, I'm about to get to Sharrac and I said, oh yeah, what's your rap name? He said, Max Biggavale, nigga. Let's get this shit clicking like Dorothy's Heels.

I said, hey, hey, hey.

I said, hey, hey.

And then what, though?

And then, yeah. I was like, well, listen to this shit, Flea. Yo, fam, I swear to God, when the niggas said, let's get this shit clicking like Darcy's heels, I said, this nigga won't stop. He won't stop playing, man.

I said, look, little Flea, I'm on the run. Yeah, yeah. I'm on the run, G. And I was like, yo. And then the way you took off after that, you know, we gonna backtrack from a few things that I'm saying, but you don't know the slant, like when you got locked up and shit, you don't know the slant that I get.

Cam, how the fuck you let it go this way? Y'all niggas from the same, like what the fuck, how'd it go, da da da da, I'm like, yo, I ain't see this nigga be playing, nigga, nigga in and out of jail all the time, man. This nigga, I ain't see this shit was gonna happen. Niggas be ready to take my head off about this shit. Because you ain't a prophet.

Yeah.

They want you to be a motherfucking prophet. Yeah, listen, man. And I ain't, listen, I'm first tell you, I missed out and I didn't see it because you was too to be something else. You still got me in though.

Oh, no, no. Listen. You did everything in your... You was like, look, go see bro.

Yeah, but listen, we Boomerang.

We here now, we ain't even gonna get into... No, I'm just saying, that's how... Right.

Even you acknowledge still, like, damn, I got rev, I got, you know what I'm saying? You said nah, boom, but not to cut you off my back. Nah, you good nigga, we talking. But I'm sitting there, like I said, we gonna boomerang back to a lot of this shit, but it's just like, when you see people, let me ask you a question, right, and we gonna go back a little further,

but I wanna ask you a question. I remember you was locked up to defuse a situation between Kanye and Wiz Khalifa. Because Kanye named his album The Wave, Wiz Khalifa jumped in and said, who the fuck are you basically to name your album The Wave?

You stealing from Max and he locked up, da da da. And Kanye went, French gave me permission to use the wave.

This, that, and the third.

He still handing you anything.

Yeah.

What do you take when you hear shit like that? And, cause you think about it, with us, even murder, we some arrogant niggas sometimes.

Not mean, not even mean to be.

It's in the water. It's in the water. shit like that, and you'd be like, damn, two of the biggest artists at this time is arguing about something that I created, and I'm locked up.

When you heard that, what did you feel about that?

We saw that shit on Wendy Williams one day in the day room. I was like, oh shit.

Right.

Boom, they said the little name or whatever. They was talking about it the day before. I was like, oh wow. But then when they went on that daytime TV with it, that's when you knew that shit had some traction. And Wendy Williams had grabbed it. That's home, that's sis. She just went into a whole little 60 second segment

on promo with this shit. So we all saw that shit where I was at. We just came out like the box or whatever. We was in the transition phase, but it was looking up that was like one of the things that happened in the process what we saw so that shit was like it was real hopeful to see that people like was it was that involved I mean I was like damn this shit shit changing so that

shit was that shit was dope nah that shit was dope as hell bro that's what it's about so back to what I was saying, so a lot of people come up to me, Cam, y'all from Harlem. You know me 20 years, nigga, put me on. I'm like, I don't know you from rapping. Not talking about you, just people in general.

When did you figure out that you said, I'm talented, I could do music? Because I don't just consider you a rapper like you can write R&B you could do hooks you could rap I consider you a artist I don't even like to put you in a genre just rap brother when did you realize you had this talent did you always have it or you just said fuck this I'm gonna take this serious now that I see what niggas is doing no I just ain't one of I knew like around 18 19 when I first went to jail and shit.

That's like right after I left for your island shit. So when I used to be writing, that's like the most purest shit that would ever come to me. Then I could start seeing the shit. I started seeing what I was writing. So it was like, oh, you could tap into the imagination.

So I guess from that point on, from elementary, from being around y'all, we always checked boxes on personality and character. So it's like, all right, I was always telling niggas what you said. You was like, yo nigga, yo, you got that slick talk. You always talking slick. So that shit resonated all the way. You told me that shit, we was like 19, 18.

That shit resonated up to, you know what I'm saying? Watching y'all niggas do what y'all do. So I implemented that in there and I just knew, I just, you know, as the more I wrote and the more I developed, I just realized I could do other shit.

I could put myself out there in a plethora of ways. You know what I'm saying? So that was just one of my outlets. You know what I'm saying? So it was, at that time it was early, but that was like the first thing I knew where I was like, I could control this, right?

This is some shit I can, you know what I'm saying? I wanna get better and I just wanted to get better. I know y'all felt at that point where your crap was at that peak, right? You was like, yo, this shit's really what I'd love to do. So that was like that moment. So in prison at that time, that shit kept me sane, bro. Because you had niggas coming in there with a little bit of shit.

They couldn't figure that shit out. I done seen niggas come in there with two, three months, start smearing shit on the wall. Niggas be bugging. Right. You know what I'm saying?

So that shit, like God blessed me with that shit to keep me going. And as I kept devoting to the craft, other shit would open up in the process. The craft opens up a whole nother motherfucking pants door box to some whole other shit. So I just dive in my Kraft. I start with that and then everything else.

It shows me everything else. Right.

Everything.

So that's kind of like, you know what I mean? I'm gonna say 18 though.

Yeah, now listen, that was a great point because, and I don't wanna speak for Beth cause he'll tell me I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about. But, no, seriously, but it comes to a point where you can rap, but can you make a song? You know what I'm saying?

And he developed that way before I did, like a long time ago. He used to tell me,

Cam, you got to take some of the words out.

I'm over-rapping.

It's true. some of the words out. Over-rapping? I'm over-rapping. I'm trying to clack clack the clackity clack. Cam, we ain't trying to be... No disrespect to... We trying to go somewhere else. And we used to think about it like, I remember, we used to be like Harlem got the jinx

because there'd be so many Queens niggas on or Brooklyn niggas on, the Brooklyn niggas on, the Long Island niggas, and you know, who takes Staten Island, and we ain't had nobody since probably Rob Basin, Doug E. Fresh, and everything else. And Buff opened the floodgates for all of us,

to be totally honest with you. Ain't nobody selling nickel yet, not in one album. Niggas sold a nickel in the first album. So he taught me that. But to me, when I first started paying close attention to what you're doing, you kind of already figured that out.

I didn't know if that was part of your process where you just always wrote R&B as well, or you said, listen, I can't just rap, I got this other talent. Was it just rapping one time, or you always had the whole package? Nah, it's always been, it's like a hard practice. You could start off light and then the basics or you could start off like maxed out and just work on everything to your shit

before you know it. So over the years, that's how I always practice, to write a song, to listen to the, you know what I'm saying? In the beginning, I would just, I knew beats from music, just regular shit, regular everyday music. I would know beats up there, so I would write off them beats. This one I ain't have no radio or nothing.

I was just using this, so this allowed me to really swim into the shit and hear it, get the count right. That's why the rhythm be so good. That's why I be, cause like I go into it. So that's like, I can't explain it. I always worked on everything.

Even listening to the shit, even to the selection, what people gonna like, what's too loud. And I ain't talking about loud, like, you know how music, some music just be too loud and I ain't talking about loud like you know how music, some music just be too loud, not the volume, but it's just loud, boom, hard, like all that shit is all the same so that's kind of how I like train myself in the very beginning so that's why I be, it's that, it's sound that,

you know what I mean? Yeah. So it's technical but. No it is what it is. That's your process. You got all this street buzz before you go to jail. Um, mixtapes is on fire. The streets is fucking loving you. Um, and then you catch this case and go to jail. When you went to jail, being that you had the streets on that much fire,

what was that like? Let's just say the first month, not just for you, inmates, seeing Max be in here with that situation as hot as he was on the streets? I mean, it's love, but you know, like I know all that shit get tiring.

I just wanna get, I just wanna chill. Right. And be treated like, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, we lost that luxury, niggas be grouped out when you ain't trying to be talking about music, niggas want to rap for you

when you ain't into none of that. So, right now, when you going through this new spot, you know, I'm a rapper, whatever, I'm a rapper, I'm from New York, I'm dolo. And I gotta go through the system. So I'm on straight Rambo time with this shit. I don't wanna play, ain't no horse playing,

we not doing no chess, no cards. Shit is like focus, I just got convicted. You know what I'm saying? I really don't care about that shit right now. That shit ain't nothing, I'm trying to get shit. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So that's kind of be like where I be at with the shit. Like, all right, I just hit rock bottom again.

Let me see how I'm going to dust my shit off and get back on the fight. You know what I'm saying? So that's kind of like how I look at it. When it's time for that shit, that's the formality. All right, yeah, this is shit. All right, now let's just be regular. And that's it. So I kind of like, you know, I'm just a regular dude.

That's the mentality, nigga. Because at the end of the day, what you saying is right. Because when you first get convicted, you getting convicted to 75 joints.

So you like, it ain't going to be tomorrow.

You mad.

Yeah, yeah. You ain't trying to rap. Right. Like, what the fuck is there to rap about? You really want to be left alone. But now you can't even be left alone, so you got to bunk up. Shit like that. So imagine going through that process for, what, I just did 17 years, 10 months, damn man, 18 years on it. Come on, my nigga, that shit is brutal.

It can be brutal. You need something to, you know what I'm saying, you need some type of spiritual stability, you need to be able to find some shit. And you know, that right there, that shit was my find. And it just so happened, like, I don't care where it's at, I can do it wherever, I don't need no tracks or nothing.

And that shit is an automatic find for me, it's an automatic piece. So that's why, you know what I'm saying, it's a connection there. I guess that's why people be kind of connected to it, because they can feel that I feel like what I'm going through. You know what I'm saying?

So you know all this shit, man. There's some deep shit out here, but I'm glad me and y'all getting to finally getting the chance to sit down and really have a discussion like man, because we really, niggas don't, we really grew the fuck up together.

Yeah, absolutely.

You know what I'm saying? So, y'all niggas a little old, though. Y'all niggas look good. This nigga better looking like money. He the oldest, though. This nigga's, y'all older, he the oldest. I remember you came through, you had the little silver joint, you popped out with the silver

five, you popped out, I'm like yo, I'm like yo, bro doing this shit. Boom, a couple weeks later you double back, I think you had the blue joint, you like who? I'm like yo, this nigga getting money out here. Then you had the bourbon, you came through with a fitting hundred, you was doing that being around the world. I'm like, yo, this nigga up.

I'm like, yo, Beth, I'm like, yo, Beth, man, let me get $100. He pulls out the new money at this time, the big fake joints. I'm like, yo, this shit look fake as hell. I thought it was a coupon. I'm like, yo, this nigga Mason, this nigga just gave me a coupon.

What the fuck is this shit?

Nah, he's like, nah, Rambo, this real money, man. I'm like, you short, man. He like, hold it up. He schooled me right there. He like, hold it up, Rambo.

He's like, hold it up. He schooled me right there. He's like, hold it up, Rambo. He's like, you see that little face in the shot of that hologram? If you don't see that shit, Rambo, it ain't no money, Rambo.

Go ahead, do your thing. I'm like, this nigga here, he was on straight Big Bro time early. I ain't gonna lie, when nobody looking, that's him. Nigga, I took that shit, that shit got me through the first bid. So when I go back, when I give off that feed, I'll be knowing, I'll understand. I was hoping I ain't go, when I gave you this seed, I'm like, yo, I'm asking the nigga

Rame, I'm like, yo, you think I did too much? Nah, this nigga can, but he's like, you think I should've rapped? He's like, nah, nigga, nigga, I'm like, you think I should've rapped? He's like, nah, niggas ain't, I'm like, you sure be, like, you good, man, come on, man. I'm like, all right, man. Just like you said, though, listen, man,

and it wasn't no social media at that time or whatever, but you know, you would do the DVDs, YouTube was starting to get poppin', and that's the one thing I always say about you. It's niggas who can rap who don't know how to sell it. And when I say sell it, we ain't even doin' nothing but be ourself, you know what I'm sayin'?

Sometime a nigga, when you go watch a boxing match, and one nigga boring, and another nigga tryin' to engage you in the motherfuckin', we gotta sell the fight nigga. We gotta sell the fight. Even if we fuck with each other, we gotta act like we don't fuck with each other. We trying to sell tickets nigga. You got that, all of us really got that shit,

but you really got that shit off top to where you know how to sell it. It's niggas who know how to sell it who can't rap. It's niggas who know how to rap but can't sell it. like the all-around package pours when it come to that man and not for real I'm happy we didn't miss it yeah I'm happy that that shit got to get shown cuz it's a lot of niggas who niggas be like yo we curving nigga and we might

miss miss out an opportunity but our pieces that's what me and Beth are like yo for nigga gonna be a headache not not back then I'm talking about the day like yeah we good money but um so look you get to this point, right, Max, where you like, yo, it's a possibility you could come home from off of 75, you like, what's that energy like when that's a possibility?

You gotta stay grounded, can't get too excited. You don't wanna get excited, right? You don't wanna get excited, you don't wanna start telling everybody, you know, I'm a Gemini, I brag like a motherfucker, yo I'm out! So when I had got the little, got the little debrief or whatever, usually them shits when

they get denied, they be like affirmed, you know what I'm saying, you see a firm. So my shit said modified. I'm like, modified, the fuck is this? Sent the shit to my man. So I'm like, yo, I'm like, yo, I'm like, yo, so what that mean? He like, nigga, you, I mean, you got a hearing.

You looking like good money. You on your way out. So that's the first time. Right. And we in the hole, these niggas behind the gate, these niggas like, oh, this nigga. So they start screaming and shit, some real movie shit, you heard? Yeah. Penitentiary blues.

Right.

Niggas, that was like the first sign of, it looked like I was gonna get some action, but I still had a long ride to do. But, where I was at, niggas don't get no action. Right. get no action. So you get some shit like that. Where you was at when- I was in the big house. They had me all the way at the bottom. I was at the bottom. So when I had- niggas don't get no information in there. That's the big house. Everybody

got some life shit they doing in there. So when you get relief, if anybody get a slink, anything, any hint of some relief, that shit flows around the prison like wildflower. Right, it's a big deal. It was a big deal, so that was like the start of the process. That was like 2015, like the end of 13, I went to court for like a year,

and when I copped out, to re-cop out my shit, it was a 20, so I'm like I still want I'm gonna still have nine right now I could be arrogant again and try to go you know I'm saying I got these niggas I got these niggas I could go ahead suck it up do this little nine and and just ride the shit out right so I just took the plea boom went back got the nine and then now so I could just switch and get my mindset out that life shit, you heard? Get me, got me out the prison in the big house, sent me somewhere where niggas got more of

my time at, niggas is going home, so it's a different mindset. You around a bunch of niggas ain't going home, that shit is mad, unpredictable, you don't know what the fuck could happen. You might see a nigga getting coffee every day, two, three days. Next day, nigga might just run around, start stabbing niggas in they face for no reason. No reason. No movie shit, no cap. That's how that shit be. So it's not every day, but that shit happens, bro. So you gotta be on point. You saying, and listen, I can only imagine, bro. You basically saying that where you was at,

it ain't no hope for nobody. And then when you get an inkling of like, this could happen, the whole jail rooting for you on some real. Nah, it ain't be roots though. It was just at that moment,

because of who I am, you know, it was different.

Okay.

But the average nigga that gets some love, it ain't no niggas, it ain't no who. Like, niggas looking at that nigga like, nigga, like, fuck you, nigga. Yeah, you going home and I'm not, basically. Yeah, yeah, or you look like you trying to give something back.

Fuck you, nigga. Right. That's the mentality right there. Gotcha. It's just that spot. That's a different mindset. Right. So that shit'll fuck some shit up in there. Niggas in there be bugging out. Right.

So you gotta like really stay on your shit.

Nah, that's... I can tell now from what you telling me,

you sound like you got the movie already, nigga. Sound like you need to go get the doc and send it to me. I'm saying, y'all gotta have me in this loop and sit me at the table. I just gave Mase the main commercial.

Yeah, Doritos.

We got the Doritos joint. You know what? And then them niggas try to go back on the field like, we can still play. Yeah. Look, we suit up on some, look,

some young Cam shit, young Betha, young Max. Nigga, we still got it. Yeah. And we go to the club. They show us sleep. You got the cans and shit with you. You tired, you're done.

You're off the shit.

That's a fact. Yeah, you at the joint doing the interview. You tired, nigga. You need some water.

You like, man, bring me some motherfucking water. You're subbing the nigga in for the interview and all that. Yeah, that just happened to me the other day. I woke up and it was like 4 in the morning. I said, yo, I know this nigga killer.

It's tight.

Oh, no, I wasn't mad. I knew you fell asleep. This nigga fell asleep on the show.

Yeah.

I wasn't mad.

I already knew. It was cool because I said, I'm going to get this nigga to 1 in the morning. But I knew Michael Irvin was on that night, so I was like, it's cool. You should've flashed it at that nigga like, yo Mase. Yeah. I was talking to me and Killa, I said, yo, let me call you back. Nah, you're in the battle room with that.

I was trying to sleep for like 30 minutes, man. I was knocked out.

Yeah, nigga, Mac? It's that you gotta give him time, so that day he talking about, right? After 30 minutes, I'm like, we gotta go, he ain't shoot. But sometime I'll be late, too, so I wasn't tripping. But Mesa come late and be like,

yo, niggas gotta be on time, bro. Yeah. gotta be on time, bro. Yeah, yeah. Yo, man, we gotta get shit organized around this shit. Motherfuckers showing up when they wanna show up. Do what they wanna do. This nigga 50 minutes late. They just be like, oh shit.

I don't know.

I could be late, but everybody else can't be late. And then the staff will say something to me, I'll be like, I can't say nothing about it yo.

Like this is random.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, that bull is real. So Max, right? Listen, the other day, the other day I sent you um, you come home, you come home from jail, my nigga, my nigga, Beth, man.

These hot?

Nah, man.

He stole these.

Shit's off the truck.

He fell off the truck.

These hot?

These hot?

Let me throw these on there.

Thank you.

Yeah, thank you, brother.

They look sexy.

Thank you, brother. I like these, man. Yeah, you got those. I'm gonna give you something for the show. I got me going to Duffel real quick. Yeah. But I want to ask Max something real quick. Thank you for this too, man.

I appreciate this.

Throw these in here. And we got a big check for Max. Yeah, yeah, man.

I gave Max a little sandwich when he walked in.

Yeah, he gave me a sandwich.

He did, he did.

I don't like promoting that. Me and you can do it, but I don't wanna act like.

That's why y'all brought me here.

Yeah, yeah, like nah, I ain't.

Y'all just my niggas, you really got love.

I don't even wanna act like, you know, that shit, I don't do all that for Kim, but yeah, there's definitely a check coming. Definitely a check, definitely a check coming. and I didn't even know if there was a bust about it, but what I do for my friends, see me and Belfort just got to a point where we trying to outdo each other on gifts every year.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how I get.

That's how I get, but I wouldn't even pump anything that I do for you, because nigga, you deserve what you about to get. But I will brag about what I gave to this nigga, definitely, pause. Yeah, yeah. So the other thing- Who winning, who winning, who winning though? Before you go, before you say it.

Murda.

Murda, Murda, Murda, Murda. You know what's crazy, Max? It was this nigga birthday a couple months ago. I watched the episode. I was nigga like a little briefcase of money, all 20s and so I gave him some matches a few 50s I said one another match I you go to the bank bunch of mattress money yeah filled to join up nigga looked at he

said I said, I must owe three of these.

Man, Macbeth had it a long time.

Nah, nah, he give me shit on my birthday too. You know what it is?

This is why he up though, Mac, to help me keep it a buck.

Yeah.

When we shoot the show, I've been getting away with murder because, no pun intended, his birthday when we not shooting. My birthday falling during the episodes. In the summertime, we on vacation on vacation and missing his birthday so I thought I made up with the shit with the briefcase but obviously it wasn't enough they said yeah this is nice cute mattress money. I said oh shit I gotta do something else. He knew what it was. Yeah yeah he knew what it was.

Word so um you come home you come home the other day. So put it like this, I don't want to skip that, we'll get to that in a minute. We just talked about how you hear that you might come home. When you hear that you definitely come home, what's the energy? Because I'm going to keep it 100. You, black, and I'm just being fucking totally honest. Y'all say you come home every year for three years.

Yeah.

Yo, kill, I got to talk to the governor in Jersey. Yeah, the mayor.

Yo, once I speak to the mayor, and these brothers were coming out, Black call me the next year. Yo, Flea, we just spoke to this person. It's going to happen this year. So when I'm telling niggas I'm trying to get shit lined up. He's like, yo, Max, y'all have to come over. Niggas, so when I told him this, he's like, Cam, Max been coming home every year for the last four

and a half years. But by the second, I said, that's what he told me. Black told me to stand in third. When you realize you really could come home, what was that feeling like? Because like you said, you get the modification and you say, okay, cool, you sell it for the nine.

When you realize them days is getting counting down closer and closer, what's that like? I spoke to you Saturday before you came on, you said, y'all feeling tingly, pause, man. It's about to go down.

What about that, when you finally got a release date? Cause there's one thing saying you can come home and then when you get that release date, what was that like? It was, like I said, you just gotta switch the mindset. So, I knew I wasn't gonna be in here for the duration. So now let me try to preserve as much as I can.

Let me, I'm saying, start trying to work out, keep my little shit healthy, but exercising, just stay in the game. So that was kinda my mindset. I still was hungry it wasn't like I had a year left to still do a nine ball right that's after like a thing and my shit got flipped it was like I had a nine ball left so so I was still in prison

mode but it felt good for even motherfuckers just to have that excitement right you had money niggas that really that been waiting this long right so when I get relief niggas wanna hear something or some type, niggas that really, that been waiting this long. So when I get relief, niggas wanna hear something or some type of, niggas wanna hear that. And then, like you said, my nigga, this shit don't stop. We selling it in there too. We gotta stay relevant in there too.

Nigga, you did two hooks for me from Jim on my project. I said, yo, this nigga's amazing, man. Then when I heard the fucking tie, I heard the lemonade shit, I said,

he ain't give me that one.

I'm good.

That's some shit French had in the stash. Okay. What's up, my boy? Yeah. What's going on? Yo, what the fuck is up, Joe? What's good? Word. Oh, man. Woo-wee. what's good? We gonna show that off later, baby. Izz, what's good, nigga? Look at my boys.

What's up, damn?

Look at my boys.

That's my niggas. Joe, home A&C. Joe, Sin City, K1.

What's good, baby? You all right? You looking good. Come on, nigga.

Come on in, man.

They got that engagement. What's up?

Welcome, welcome back to the Killer Countdown. It's Sin City, aka Curtis Mayfield, the third, fourth and fifth. We have Danny Myers versus Oom P. It's about bars.

But when that's close, you got to find like a little, you to find the little technicalities that may throw a nigga off or whatever. Let me explain something to y'all, to all the rappers that's in this contest. I don't give a fuck if the modem is in the closet. Go in the closet, nigga, and rap, or female or whatever, to make sure your shit is clear. Oom P said, you bite the cheese before you get to the precinct, before they offer you McDonald's, sodas and cheeses.

Goddamn Oom.

Look like you a bite the cheese before they offer you the McDonald's, soda and cheeses.

Jesus!

Shit.

He said T-Rex robbed you for 12,000. Shout out to T-Rex robbed you for 12,000. Shout out to T-Rex. Buddha Blast, B-Ski Rally, Butt Naked Records. Ain't no pause in that. Shout out to them, my niggas. Danny, you might have one little thing that people... Listen, Danny, I know you rap better than that.

Oompa, you're going to the next round. Get your shit together, because if you didn't

black like that, we would be having a different conversation. Killer Countdown, Sin City,

ooh. Yo, shout out my nigga O'Solo. He got that ready to die face. This the only old nigga with the password to his MySpace. Nigga, you dealing with the primates. Thought he could see me, he Tyrone. I'll knock your fucking eye straight.

Y'all be like clean snatching deposits

and be taking people's bands.

But it's cool when he digging his ass and be shaking people's hands. Damn, Jersey, this the type of niggas in y'all crew? Well, he from New Jersey.

That's the type of shit you niggas do. One nigga bring two, oh so they'll be making the bros laugh. You know what's funny? I slapped the shit out yo old ass. He on the ground looking back like, enough's enough. Let's see if two niggas bring three after I fuck you up. I know yo type.

Old nigga be buying baked beans. Always fighting young niggas cuz your girlfriend 18 his mama still iron his clothes want him to stay clean her neck so golden she could have been with the 18 shut up my nigga solo he got some big dreams he always out of town he doing big things I saw your performance with clips nigga that shit mean but with the fans didn't eat this nigga be wearing six rings

You Mexican Jordan wearing bitch you think you sweet bro nigga your new Spanish man gonna be also lethal That was he Joe. Yeah, nigga. You took a few L's. I'm not so T Paul yo Pete me dropping Jewels a killer battle rap don't bring me no joy. Come home with me, nigga, I'll sell it by the old boy. I can show you a few choppers on my way to church or drop you a couple of gems, nigga,

on my way to yack town in this bitch.

You are overly generous. And every time you open up your mouth, you give away your ignorance. Somebody tell Matt, this is my run and we all know what the buffalo said when he left his kid. Bye son. This dumb nigger don't think he gay because he bi son. So after his moms put up the GoFundMe the cops set up a GoFindEm.

Quick question, don't get nervous. Are you accidentally stupid or are you stupid on purpose I'm going to be the one to get you out of here. I'm going to be the one to get you out of here. I'm going to be the one to get you out of here. I'm going to be the one to get you out of here.

I'm going to be the one to get you out of here. I'm going to be the one to get you out of here. I'm going to the wrong day to die to the wrong person. You know I be loaking when I be smoking. If I peel for his head, it won't be ibuprofen. Each bar is a demonstration of skill, because you a name I've been waiting to kill.

Shots fired in rapid succession. He eating the meal. I mean, if it's beef, you getting hit in the face. So watch who you grill. You put two Ks in front of that C. You know where I'm from? That's considered disrespectful to a G.

So I got two Ks out in front of where you be. In a dome shot, I have you looking wide awake when you dead asleep. And that's a grave site. But you won't realize till niggas standing around your grave site.

And I won't play nice, because this an easy body, great price. Here's a good joke. A handwritten footnote. You could

quote.

Because you can't take this

mind. You a clock on

the hip.

What's that? A waste of time. A fat bitch with no right booty cheek.

What's that?

He left

behind.

The brain What's that? He left behind the brain holds knowledge So when I put money on your books Matt, you ain't going to college You a top bunk punk and your bitches on meds She faced all of our guys even gave mr. Potato head

time Time. What you gonna do?

Miss Wingate, how are you? It's a pleasure to meet you.

It's a pleasure to meet you too.

When did you meet Maxon?

What was it like?

So I met him probably like 10 years ago. I wrote him and it was just kinda like after reading his case. So after I read his case, I felt like something, like something in me I had to write. I don't know, like I was like compelled to write him,

like not on, I don't know, more, like I wanted to give him some type of faith or hope. And I don't know, ever since I wrote him that first letter, we started talking and then, you know, we got married in February. And it's been like, it's been hard.

There's times like, you know, there was a lot of times where I didn't wanna stick around, but it was worth it.

Tell me why, why didn you want to stick around?

Cuz this listen people that are on the outside have problems, you know Already that are not in jail. Imagine the problems like somebody incarcerated and you can't really work through them Like how a normal person would you know, like he can't call me when he wants to every time. So, you know, sometimes he would like be in the hole or something like that and I can't communicate with him. So, but yeah.

What made you not give up?

Just our bond was even though, so we wrote a lot through handwritten letters. So I feel like that built our bond. And just like my faith, like I always knew he was gonna come home. So when I met him, he still had his 75 years.

So, yeah, so I already knew he was coming home. Like, I get kind of emotional talking about it. But yeah, but I knew he was coming home. I just didn't know when. And then.

And not to cut you off, cause he was explaining a lot to us. You felt he was coming home or you knew that like, that he got a modification and he might come home, or you just felt in your heart?

No, no, like I felt it in like my spirit, like he was coming home. Like it was no, I don't think, there was nothing on the table like, at that time, like of him getting released. I really, I just had that faith.

I don't know if, cause I was like, you know, a little bit younger and maybe like more, I don't know what it, like naive or whatever you call it, but at the time, or I'll still say now, like I felt it in my spirit. Like I knew he was coming home. Like I always did.

So that's why I think I wrote him after I read his case.

And I know Mase, he wants to ask a question, but I want to ask one more question for Mase. Did you just know about his case or did you know his music prior to writing him as well?

Was you a Max B fan?

So, okay, so funny story. So I had like an ex-boyfriend and he, so he would listen to his music so shout out to him you know. But ever since then I was like listening to his music I didn't know he was locked up when I was listening to his music okay and then that's so I was like, that's when I researched him and stuff like that and I found out about his case.

So, how's this ex-boyfriend feeling now?

I mean, he's happy for me.

Word?

Yeah, he's happy. That's for sure. He's like, cause he's a fan, like he's a fan. Right.

So. Did he ask to meet him?

That's crazy. Actually, he invited him to the wedding.

You gotta love Max.

Yeah, he invited him to the wedding. So I asked him, he was like, nah, I mean, I'll sit that one out, but congratulations. Does he rap? No, he doesn't rap.

Oh, yeah.

Nah, you gotta, Max a different nigga. Tell the nigga to come through. See what he missed out on.

Babe, oh.

Right, he's talking to Andy. We ain't gonna keep you long, but I just wanted to make sure that the world made sure that he got to see who was, for you to stick it, like you said, it's not an easy situation.

Yeah. Where you sitting there and then you eventually, you know, you you start loving somebody, then you saying, damn, I'm in love with somebody that's potentially doing 75 years, but you felt it, that he's coming home,

and now that he's home, it's been less than a week. What has this week been like being with a superstar like Max? I don't know what your ex-boyfriend used to do,

but I'm pretty sure it wasn't no shit like this. Nobody is like my husband, no.

So he-

What has this week been like for you?

It feels like he's been home for a month. All the things that we've done, like he's just been working, working, so it just feels like he's been home more than a week for sure. Right.

Yeah. That's what's up. Mase, you got anything you want to say?

Nah, I don't really have nothing to say. I just came really to celebrate. I think this is one of those things that I always talk about Killa, like when somebody goes in just with good intentions to help, that's why you reap all of the good things that came from it. Because she thought he was never coming home. She just went in there to give the nigga hope, not realizing that would be her husband one

day. So whatever you get, you deserve. And normally I don't say that. I'm like the iron fist. I'm going to keep it 100.

I appreciate that because I believe in that too.

No, I'm saying this.

Mase definitely is 100% accurate with what he's saying in no cap or none because he says to me all the time when his wife got with him when he didn't have anything. Yeah. You know, and that's why he ended up marrying his wife. He ended up getting everything back that he might not have got through music tenfold over.

But he got with his wife when it was a down time in his life and she wanted him and we even talked about this when we was on the ComplexCon he said if you really

love me get your own ring.

I said I'll buy the ring.

Just testing it out.

Yeah. Oh I bought my own ring at first.

Right see.

I did.

Say it to the camera. I did, do y'all see that?

Yeah.

Yeah, you sis for real now, you brought your own ring.

Yeah, like I was a little.

Yo, Max.

That's crazy.

Maxie, you wanna come give some jewelry on the camera? Suddenly, you was about to give her some ring, so what was y'all about to do? I showed them her upgrade. Okay. So when you work hard, and you and your family...

Oh, they can show them the upgrade?

Yeah, see what happens.

That's what happens. This is the camera right here.

This is Wayne Gage.

Yeah.

And you know, you ride, you know what I'm saying?

Those people who couldn't handle it, that's alright. Because they thank you. Yeah. believe in this thing, get this real estate from the ground up, you reap the fruit to your labor. Yeah. believe in this thing, get this real estate from the ground up, you reap the fruit to your labor.

Yeah. There you go. There you go. There you go, baby. There you go, baby.