Carney Declares Canada “At War” With Trump... Now 90,000 Jobs Are At Risk

Mark Carney has said that Canada is effectively now at war with the United States.Carney terminated trade talks with Trump and announced that he would retaliate against America with 50 percent counter tariffs that will come into effect in September.And Mark Carney said he had no choice to do so because America couldn't agree to a fair deal.But what if I told you that there may be something else going on here?Today, I'm joined by a Canadian and American political strategist who has worked on a Trump campaign and warned a few weeks ago that Canada was in trouble.And now she has an even bigger warning.

Canada may not survive what it's getting itself into, and 90 ,000 jobs could be lost with that being just the beginning.Hello and welcome to the show.My name is Ali Kenton Nantel.We're recording an emergency show today because late last night, Mark Carney decided to terminate trade talks with the United States.a country that is Canada's closest neighbor and that is supposed to also be Canada's closest ally.And he has decided to retaliate with huge counter tariffs.

In an ex post, Carney said that for over a year, Canada had been working intensively and in good faith with the U .S.to negotiate a new comprehensive trade deal, and that Canada had been pragmatic, patient and persistent, and that Canada's goal had always been to get the best deal for Canadians never a deal at any price or on any time frame and that late last evening he had instructed Canada's negotiators to return to Ottawa and that he could not accept what the U .S.had offered and that he would not give what they had asked.Furthermore, he said he would release details of new counter -tariff measures in the coming days and that these would come into effect

Tuesday after Labor Day.Returning to the show today is Georgianne Burke.Georgianne is the senior vice president of the Pathway Group, and she's a seasoned veteran of political affairs in both Canada and the United States.She has held various roles in the Conservative Party of Canada, working for MPs, working with ministers, and she's also worked on the Trump campaign.and now works out of the United States.She is a dual citizen and she had a lot to say about what just happened.

And you won't hear anything that she has to say in the legacy media.It's very different than the narrative that is being broadcasted right now.And it is a perspective that you need to hear for yourself.So without further ado, let's get to it.But first, be sure you're subscribed.I've been like the video, hit the notification bell and consider getting a paid channel membership for less than five dollars a month.

because we don't take any subsidies from the government here.George Enberg, thank you so much for joining us on such short notice.

No problem.Big day today and not just fully in the good way.

A lot of Canadians went to bed last night thinking that they would wake up to a deal, except we woke up to there being not a deal in Canada announcing retaliation with 50 percent counter tariffs.What do you make of the fact that we failed to get a deal?

Frankly, I have to be very honest, I'm not surprised because I've been staying for at least a year that I didn't think there was going to be a deal.I knew factually from sources in Washington that Trump did not want to continue the status quo with USMCA slash NAFTA.He wanted bilateral agreement with Mexico.He wanted a bilateral with Canada that he can deal with.He doesn't like these multifaceted, multi -party deals because he thinks that it always puts the US at a disadvantage.So he's been working with Mexico for the better part of a year, almost a year and a half to come up with a deal, which I'm sure they've

They're very close.And Canada didn't do anything until the last few months.As a matter of fact, there was an eight month period when nobody from Canada was in Washington to have discussions on this at all, which told me that the Canadian government under Mark Carney was not interested in a deal.I believe that.And I believe it because I think that what he thinks is that he can be the leader of the middle powers that he can cut deals with China and European countries and maybe Southeast Asian companies.He keeps talking about a CN, right?

He doesn't talk about China.He talks about SCN.And, um, so I think that that's his goal.Uh, he sees himself as the leader of the world, which I think is hilarious.Uh, sorry, but I do.Um, and, uh, uh, so now we're in a situation where our largest trading partner, 80 % of our business going from the Canadian direction to the U S. is now at risk.

And there are some businesses that will be completely out of business because they do 100 % of their business with the US.

Yeah, we'll get into that momentarily.Mark Carney gave a press conference to the legacy media in Ottawa, and he basically laid out the three reasons why the deal failed.And number one, he said it had to do with autos and he didn't think the US was being fair when it comes to autos.Number two was in regards to The ability to make other trade deals with other countries and then a number third was what he calls the Canadian cultural stuff which to me translates to online censorship and i have been very very hopeful news reports that the concessions of canada was going to give was there going to stop the censorship which day.Do to claim to promote canadian content but in reality all it does is promote liberal content consensus conservative content and really hurts creators who want to reach market outside of canada.What do you make of the reasons that Carney has stated for not

picking a deal?Because we are seeing commentators, Georgiane, on the left, but also on the right, who say that Carney may be justified here.

OK, so on the auto part of this, I have maintained for quite some time that the problem with the auto deal, the auto part of the deal, is that the U .S.has a big problem with dumping of Chinese steel into Canada.and having it as part of the content in the cars.They don't want dumping of Chinese steel.They were happy to work with Canadian steel manufacturers if it was guaranteed that that would be protected.

But it seems to me that what they've done here is they've actually had a situation where they can't promise that they won't dump.And I know it's a problem because I've spoken to other industries that use a great deal of steel, and they've said they have a problem that when they buy steel, They can't even be sure that the steel is 100 % Canadian.So how are they going to promise the U .S., with whom they're doing business, that the steel is 100 % Canadian?That's part of the problem.

The other thing is on the culture thing.I agree with you that the censorship is part of it, but that's not what he said.What he said was it's about French culture and Quebec culture and language and labeling and all of this other nonsense.And I said, why does the U .S.care at all about that?

They don't care about that.It is clearly, I think, what you said, which is that Canada wasn't going to give up its censorship and the U .S.was not going to stand for that.They have been opposed to it and clearly publicly opposed to it for some time, not to mention the fact that there's a lot of Canadians that don't like it either.So they've actually kind of made this an issue rather than saying, OK, listen, you know, we'll go along with it.

this.We'll find a way to protect American content and things like that.They didn't want to do that.He, I will tell you that I believe, and I'm saying this sincerely, and I've said it for a long time and people laughed at me and wave their hand at me, but I have believed that Carney does not want this deal at all.And he has put up every possible barrier in the way to annoy the U .S.

and to make it impossible to come up with a deal.Who's going to suffer for that?I don't actually think that, um, uh, the U S is going to suffer now.I mean, there are some industries that will be dislocated for a time.They'll find other sources for the stuff that they get from Canada.The big hurt is going to come to Canada.

And I don't know how much money the government, by the way, taxpayer money, the government thinks that they can throw at these industries that they're destroying like overnight, um, to fix the problem.I, I don't, I don't think it's going to happen.There's.Um, a ton of jobs at risk here.Uh, one industry alone, 60 ,000 direct jobs, a quarter of a million indirect jobs.Multiply that out by you're talking about the forestry industry, the steel industry, the auto industry.

These are huge industries that employ a lot of people in Canada.And that's when you take just the direct jobs, it's hundreds of thousands.Then when you take the indirect job, you're talking in the millions.So I'm not sure how smart this was.I mean, I know it isn't smart.We all know that's not smart to not have this deal.

It didn't have to be that Canada gave up everything, but they weren't negotiating in good faith for the last year and a half.They had no intention.His intention has always been, as I said at the beginning of this broadcast, to be the leader of the middle powers, what he refers to as the middle powers, like Japan and Thailand and Laos and Vietnam and those countries over there.He doesn't mention China, by the way.He only talks about the Southeast Asian countries.and Europe.

That's who he wants to go with.He doesn't want to deal with the United States.

I said, Mark Carney does call himself a European, so.

Oh, well, and he's a European, but ironically, his whole family lives in the United States.So, you know, I'm like, I'm not quite understanding where he's coming from on this.And he, I listened to his press conference.He was very smooth.They clearly had spent several days rehearsing them.That's why I don't think this was any surprise to anybody.

Okay.And he's given himself two and a half weeks to get himself out of this in some way or make it look better for him.But he was very smooth in this press conference, but he lied and lied and lied throughout it.He actually made a statement that Canada is the top country economically in the G7.Uh, that is the most ridiculous, completely false statement that anybody could make.I mean, everyone has seen the graphs and charts showing where Canada is on productivity, on, uh, um, income, on manufacturing, on every metric that determines how strong you are.

Canada's at best in the middle and in some places and some things at the bottom.So that was a flat out lie and the media doesn't ever call them out on it.That's the problem.I mean, they, there were some good questions, but mostly not so great.

I want to now show you a tweet that I put out this morning.Myself, just like you, though, of course, you've been involved much more longer, but I did work a bit in politics before going into media.I worked on Parliament Hill, managed campaigns, and I have seen firsthand politicians, political strategists, lobbyists as well, because, you know, in some governments, the lobbyists are on the show.I'm not going to say which ones.They put in place policies that have very negative impacts, but that look good politically in the short term for short term gains.And the biggest example of this deck here.

been the lockdowns.Very early on in the pandemic, we started to get overwhelming evidence that the lockdowns were very, very harmful and they were doing much more harm than good.And yet we continue to impose them, double, tripling, quadrupling down.The results have been absolutely insane.You look at the impact on kids, on mental health, on physical health, on the economy, inflation, debt, et cetera.We will feel these impacts for years and years and years to come, but they were very expedient in the short term because the politicians and their strategists were able to say, oh, look, we're doing something.

We got this under control and the media just ate that up.And I've had the feeling, Georgiane, for the last two years that for the Canadian political class, that the illusion, the optics of we're standing up to Trump are much more politically expedient than getting a deal with Donald Trump, which first of all puts the whole we're in a battle with America thing to rest because when you have a deal, there's no more conflict, but also because Canada will probably have to give some concessions because that's part of what negotiation is like.And they've decided, let's just try to drag this out as long as possible.And I have a very bad feeling, Georgiane, that Mark Carney chose to terminate the negotiations, because it was Mark Carney who terminated them, because he thinks it will be very good for him, for Canada to face now these 50 % tariffs.And I watched that press conference like you did, and he came across as a great statesman, and I could see someone who's like, you know, not as politically active as maybe we are looking at this and being like, this is my prime minister, this is a great leader.What are your thoughts?

Do you think that Mark Carney deliberately terminated the trade talks because he came to the conclusion that what we're in right now is more politically expedient for him and will help him get a majority whenever he calls an election.

So I cannot disagree with a single word.And actually, my comment when I got a note this morning from my office,saying that the trade talks were off, that the deal was dead.And I wrote back, I said, are there by -elections coming?That was my immediate response.We've got by -elections and we've got Ontario by -elections, which would be Carney and Ford, the two, you know, the two buddies.

And so I, I'm, I'm, you know, I believe that this is crass, cynical, political, decision making, which is really sad.It's at the expense of the Canadian people, just like COVID was.You know, the decisions around COVID, which have caused untold harm to hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people in Canada, kids, as you said, people's physical and mental health.Dean Allison is trying to put together a hearing on medical damage caused by the vaccines.And the liberals are fighting him tooth and nail.They will not participate.

So he's going ahead and he's going to do it anyway.He'll find a way to get it done because he feels that this needs to be heard, that people need to be aware of what was done in the name of protecting Canadians, which is laughable, actually.If it wasn't so horrible, it would be funny.So I agree with you.And I think it's the same mentality.I think it's the same strategy, probably the same people, by the way, pushing this type of behavior.

And at the same time as they're doing these things, which are politically advantageous in a positive way, in a negative way, they're attacking the opposition, trying to destroy Pierre Poliev's leadership and trying to turn conservatives into bad guys.And the media is helping them.The media, the bought and paid for media, are following right along and doing exactly uhwhat Carney and company want.And I mean, I think this is, we're in a very dangerous time.And you know, the, the thing is that I have wonderful friends in Canada who are not political.

And the shocking thing to me is these are not stupid people.They just can't see what is being done to them.And I know like, there are things now that they've said to me, oh, you said that a while ago, you guess you were right, but they haven't given in on what is happening now, which is going to be the really big problem for them, unless by September 8th, he comes up with something.And I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to come up with something that says, look how we won.I walked away and they had to come back and look what we got.I wouldn't be surprised at all if that is what happens.

And the only reason he would do it is if there's a political advantage to him to do it.It's not because he really cares, which is a horrible thing to have to say about your prime minister.You know, they, they complain and they whine in Canada about Donald Trump putting America first, which is by the way, his job.Okay.I don't know why they don't whine and complain about their own prime minister, not putting Canada first, although he says he is.All they have to do is look at the facts, the actual facts, not the made up ones.

And they would see Canada's economy is in a, is in a free fall.Businesses are leaving the country.People are unemployed.He talked about, he and Doug Ford both talked about employment numbers today.And I was like, what are you talking about?Are you including the businesses that are closed, which have people not working anymore?

I mean, and that have moved from Canada to the United States and other places?Like, come on, why are you saying this?The only decent statement I heard today was from Danielle Smith.She managed to rise above all of the politics and say, we really need to get a deal here, which is basically what it came down to.She didn't really criticize anybody, which is something she probablyshouldn't do.

Um, but her statement was the best statement of all of them.Everybody else was either weak or fawning and, um, you know, and, and playing the let's punch Trump in the face card.Um, so I, I, I'm just hoping that, you know, maybe we're kind of wrong in the sense that, you know, I don't think he actually does want a deal, but he may find it politically advantageous to, to make it look like he got one.He's allowed himself two and a half weeks.As a mutual friend of ours said to me this morning, come on, beep, just do it now rather than waiting for two and a half weeks if you really believe in it.Put those tariffs in place if you really believe in them, not on the 8th of September.

Do it right now if you think it's such a good idea.

I want to play you now a clip of Mark Carney from this morning talking about Canada's relationship with the U .S.and then we'll talk about also the American perspective.Let's start with Mark Carney.

We've been under no illusions.We recognized from the start that America has changed.Early last year in this room, I observed that the decades long process of steadily increasing integration between our economies was over.Our government understood before many.that America would transform all of its commercial relationships, that it would put a series of tariffs on its closest allies and use economic integration as a weapon.We recognize that sometimes its signature was written in pencil.

What he said there, this signature is written in pencil.And there is an argument out there being made by both people on the left, but also some conservatives that Trump can't be trusted because if we make a deal with him, he'll just rip it up in a few months and impose more tariffs.And that, therefore, maybe what we're doing here is the best scenario.What do you say to this claim that the Trump administration, all the deals they do is on pencil because Trump is sporadic?Okay.

Well, so let's, let's go back to his premise, which by the way is correct, that, um, Trump was trying to change the dynamic of trade, not just with Canada, but around the world.He recognized that the U .S.was at a distinct disadvantage in many arenas on trade.They were used.He did the same thing, by the way, with NATO on defense.

He understood that the U .S.was being used by countries to enrich themselves at the, at the, um, disadvantage to the American people.And he wasn't going to put up with it anymore because America first.Okay.So if you understand that that is true, okay, you get it.

You know, he's going to turn over the table on trade and, and make, you know, say we have to do this a new way rather than.insulting him, which is what they do.They don't actually deal with the issues.They just continue to insult him, call him names, call him a liar.They call him a pedophile.They call him all kinds of names that have nothing to do with anything.

A well -known journalist referred to him as kind of a Russian plant, which is hilarious.But rather than actually deal with the issues, they prefer to get down in the dirt and be nasty and insult and poke the bear.And what all that has really done is created an atmosphere of distrust in their government, in the U .S.government.There are people in the trade world in the U .

S.that, you know, there are some people who are kind of running the show who don't really like Canada very much.Not the country, not the people, but the government.They don't like the way things have been handled and they've been tough to deal with.And I would put in that category, uh, Lutnick and Navarro.I know how they feel.

they've been pretty clear how they feel.I don't think Jameson Greer feels that way.I think he worked hard to try to get a deal.But you can't start out, which is something, by the way, that was also said by Mark Carney a year and a half ago, that we're in a trade war.We weren't in a trade war a year and a half ago, but they decided to turn everything that Trump did into, he's attacking us, we're at war, we have to defend ourselves.Oh, poor Canada.

And when you start talking this way, you create a dynamic of aggression and dislike for each other, which was never the case.It wasn't the case.So we have a situation where we have, and it was all, by the way, going back to something we were just talking about for political expediency.It was for him to get to win an election.That's why they started the anti -Trump stuff.And by the way, the conservatives joined in, much to my disappointment, because I don't think that was necessary.

He's continued.Actually, there was a quiet period, really didn't hear much one way or the other from the government.They weren't doing anything either.They weren't negotiating.They weren't talking to the US.They were doing nothing literally for eight months.

And I know this because I was told flat out by somebody in Washington, they have not seen the trade team from Canada for eight months.And that's a quote.Okay.So I have to look at it and say, well, what were they doing?Were they, you know, thinking that they could cut deals all over the world and then come back to the US and say, we don't need you.That's what he announced today.

That's what he said.But the truth is, none of us have ever seen these trade deals because they're not any trade deals.They're MOUs or they're some kind of letters of agreement, which aren't really trade deals.None of this has been finalized.And right now, I don't see how Canada survives this without getting something put into place.He's got two and a half weeks.

He better get his rear end here because there are going to be a lot of jobs to be lost.If the loss of the trade deal actually does happen, I think it would be disastrous.

Yeah, for sure.And the counter tariffs are going to do a lot more harm to the Canadian economy than the American economy.Georgetown, over the last few weeks, we've seen Canadian premiers threaten to cut off power to Americans.We've seen Canadian premiers insult Trump personally, bringing up Epstein, saying that they hope he will lose the midterms.We've seen liberal party strategists on the CBC routinely attack Trump.And we had a liberal MP, Anthony Housefather, go down to Florida to campaign.

It was right down here, right in my neighborhood.

For a Democrat progress woman, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who's an opponent of Donald Trump.There's this perspective in Canada that, you know, Americans are not educated and therefore they don't pay attention to what happens outside of the country.So therefore, they're not seeing all of this.But I have a feeling that there may be something else going on.And in fact, they are watching what's happening in Canada.So what impacts do you think actions like these, while Canada is in active negotiations with the US, do you think they've helped?

Or do you think they may have given a sour mouth to the American administration?

The American administration, yes.To the American people, I'll say largely no, because most Americans don't pay any attention to Canada, not because they don't like it, but just because it's not in their everyday thought.The fact is that nothing slips by the Trump administration.Nothing.You can be sure they know that Anthony Housefather was down here, not too far from me, campaigning.He's not an American, by the way.

He's a Canadian.Why is he down here campaigning for an American Democrat politician?Why is Doug Ford saying that he hopes that Trump loses?the midterms?And if somebody said that, I mean, like I know they were freaking out over something that the U .S.

Ambassador to Canada said that they decided was election interference, although I can't figure out how because there's no election going on, but these guys are actually talking about upcoming election and they're physically down here trying to get Democrats to win and they're talking on the media about wanting Trump to lose the midterms.How is this not election interference from a foreign agent?And so these things don't, as I said, none of this looks by Trump personally or his people.They know exactly what's going on.And this is not a way you win friends and influence people.If we had Americans coming up into Canada, you know, during an election and helping one side or the other, oh, wait a minute, that's exactly what the liberals do.

They hire American strategists.They bring them up.They, believe me, there's plenty of that going on.So apparently, I guess they think it's okay because they do it themselves the other way to help themselves win elections in Canada.So we can go help our buddies, our Democrats, who are our counterbalance in the U .S.

, win their nominations, which is what she was running in a nomination race, primary, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, probably against somebody that Anthony Housefather didn't like for some reason, but he has no, he has no place, particularly a sitting member of parliament has no place coming down here.Some random anonymous person who's going to know, but he actually put a picture of himself up, you know, out there door -knocking and doing whatever for her.That's inappropriate.It's, you want to talk about election interference?I'd say that would be it, right?You shouldn't be doing it.

So, and those things are very antagonistic for the Trump team.They don't like these kinds of things.I don't think they approve of their people.going up and interfering physically in elections in Canada.

We hear a lot in Canada about how the U .S.is not a reliable trading partner, but do you think America views Canada as not a reliable partner or ally at this point?

So I think that's part of the problem.I don't know why any Canadian would say that the U .S.wasn't a reliable trading partner.They'd been for decades.Okay, they've had, NAFTA has been in place since the days of Brian Mulroney and Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton and this one and that one.

I mean, that's when it was negotiated was back in the late 80s and the 90s.So it's a long time that it's been in place.And there was trade before that as well.So I'm not sure why all of a sudden Canadians say Americans aren't reliable.Oh, wait a minute, it could be they have Trump derangement syndrome and it's because of who the president is. I'm sure that if it was Joe Biden who didn't know whether it was yesterday, today, or tomorrow, they wouldn't be talking this way, no matter what was going on.On the other side, for the US, they're looking at what Canada is doing.

Reaching out to the Chinese.Um, you know, trying to, to create a closer relationship with the one country in the world that is going to set off everybody in the U S uh, in Congress, um, and in, and in Trump administration, um, and doing it blatantly.Okay.Um, this makes Canada not just a trade risk, but a security risk.Not only that is we know there were issues around drugs and lack of acknowledgement of the drug problem.You know, the materials coming in from China.

The cartels having labs across the country, creating these drugs, killing Canadians, by the way, not just shipping it to other countries.It's a security issue there.I said to someone this morning, I said, I think the five eyes is pretty much going to become the four eyes if they don't.hurry up and, and, and, and figure out how to work with the U S Donald Trump is president for two and a half more years.Okay.He's not there forever.

I know he jokes about a third term.He knows he can't run again, but he likes trolling people and they're stupid enough to fall for it every time.So he's going to be gone in two and a half years.Whether another Republican will take his place or not.We don't know.Maybe they will.

Maybe they won't.you have to dance with a girl you brung.He's the president.I don't think Canada can wait two and a half years.And if they think, by the way, that a change in Congress means that it's going to change the trade policy, they better do another think.Because the fact is that Congress does have some control over trade, but the U .

S.government on the executive side has a lot more power, which has been given to them, handed to them by Congress.So it's not going to change anything.So it's not going to be just until the midterms that they have to wait.They have to wait until the next presidential election and hope that they have a candidate that's acceptable enough to win an election, which right now, the people that they're talking about running, I'm not so sure about that.Not so sure about that.

When I was in Washington, D .C.and the conversations I've had with Americans, unlike most of the so -called experts on CBC and CTV, I have gone to the U .S.and met with Republicans, spoken to them, which is a very easy and rather inexpensive thing to do, by the way.I heard China coming up a lot.

You look at a lot of what Trump has said about Canada, whether it's with the drugs, whether it's with the forced labor, whether it's with some of the other practices of Canada, China almost has a connection to every single one.What role do you think China is having in all of this?

China is sitting there laughing, having a good time, watching all of this.I think Carney actually said it again today, he said it before, about how the U .S.wants to control Canada.They want to take it over, basically, is what he said.I find it ironic that that's not what the U .

S.wants at all.They want a deal where they can get some of the things they would like to get from Canada.They'd like to, you know, get oil and natural resources and whatever else they get from a friendly country as opposed to having to figure out someplace else to get it.Um, but there are other places they can get most of these things pretty easily.Um, but you have a situation where, um, they see the, um, they see the Canadian government looking towards China.

And it's very unnerving for the U .S.because they say, well, we're going to have a vassal of China.And we know what China does when they come in.Like the example is Africa.They came into Africa, basically raped the land for resources, and they leave a mess behind.

And they don't care what they do.And they'll do the same thing to Canada.They're not going to be nice about it.They want what we've got.They'll come in and take it over.He's projecting the behaviors of China on the U .

S.And I think that that's ridiculous.Number one, that's not what the U .S.has in mind at all.But they should be worried about China doing exactly that.

So anybody who is supportive of this relationship with China is either evil or just completely naive and stupid.

Georgian, my last question, where do we go from here, especially if there isn't a deal reached by Labor Day?

Well, yeah, I mean, I I've said to you that if they don't have that deal, I don't see how Canada gets through the next, I would say, medium and short term period.in any kind of condition.And then how do you recover from that?It's kind of, as a matter of fact, similar in some ways to COVID.We did a lot of damage with the COVID restrictions and we still haven't recovered and maybe never will recover.A generation of kids will never recover from what was done to them.

Okay.So are we going to take the same approach with our economy, with jobs, with people's livelihoods, with the stability of the country?I hope not.I honestly, I would like to believe that he's left himself a window of two and a half weeks to try to work something out, because he knows that he can't afford to have hundreds of thousands of jobs just disappear overnight, and they would.And that it doesn't matter how much money you throw at it, we don't have enough money to throw at it to be able to fix that.It would only be a temporary band -aid over a gaping wound.

So, I just honestly feel, I'm actually feeling for the first time a little bit hopeless if they don't do something.I've always felt like that maybe, well, you know, they kind of have to do something because Canada's economy is so intertwined with the U .S., but he apparently doesn't feel that way.He thinks that he can cut deals with China and Europe and Southeast Asia and whatever.Maybe he can, but that's long term.

What do you do in the interim?How do you fix this in the interim?So I'm just, you know, I'm going to be watching.I know.Everybody who's listening to this will be watching.I know you'll be watching, and I'm sure we'll talk more about it down the road.

But they better do something.Otherwise, Canadians will suffer.

And that's the bad part of this.Absolutely.Well, George -Anne Burke, thank you so much for taking some time today and sharing your thoughts on this.And we'll definitely be staying in touch as this progresses.

Thanks, Ellie.Good to see you.

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