Catholic Grand Knight Caught Stealing $10K Scholarship Check in Front of His Wife

This is 51-year-old Evans Paul. On February 11th, 2025, Palm Beach County sheriffs responded to a call from St. Luke's Catholic Church in reference to fraudulent activity involving the church's scholarship fund.

The investigation finds that Mr. Paul is accused of forging the check and depositing it into his personal bank account for the amount of $10,000. Watch as detectives conduct their investigation and let us know what you think in the comments below.

All right, Mr. Robert, can you please tell me what's your role?

My role at the time of the event is I was, when our counsel listed as one of the trustees and also the head of the Carbon Women's Scholarship Education Fund, the fundraiser group in our council. And can you please tell me how you know Evans Park? From church and as well as he's been a member of our council for several years and in years past I was

the Grand Knight of the council as well and he had been He'd been an officer in past years I'm a river which role whether it's Chancellor or something along those lines, but he did have a role at one point in time

How long have you known him?

probably That's a least more than five years Just you know from church before you just see him in church over the years, it's probably more than that.

And after he was appointed, what happened? What occurred for you? What discrepancy did you notice?

In our, getting ready for the school year, in our August meeting, everything's fine, we had stuff, we were trying to get the money, get the kids who won the scholarship, we wanted to get that set up in The September meeting which it was September 9th, I believe Yeah, it was September 9th

During the meeting we had the passing out of the Treasurer's Report and the report of

The scholarship fund and I noticed that there was $20,000 gone.

And so I, you know, whoa, what's going on here guys? And the money and previous to that I talked requested the $2,500 checks. So when the September meeting came and like, what happened here? Where's this money? And oh, checks were given Evans and they were, it was given to Cardinal Newman. And so in the meeting, he said that he had already given the checks to Cardinal Newman.

And when you say he, who's that?

Evans Paul, he said, give the checks to Cardinal Newman. As the meeting went on, I started questioning some things and then I said, well, you know, I know That people at Carl Newman treasurer I will go and ask them to refund us back the other money And I was talking to Evans at the end of the meeting about this. I'll just go and you know We don't know don't go to Carl Newman. Don't go to Carl Newman

So I kind of thought was funny, but you know, I said well, I'll check with any who's kept insisting I not go to Carlin Newman and then as your people ready leaves because I still have the checks and Like what you still have the checks and then several other people in the room Said we had this whole big blow up in the room about the money and now you tell everybody you have the checks That kind of so everybody kind of got whoa so during that after the meeting I sent him a text and basically just to confirm you do have the checks for the Carlton Newman scholarship and his reply was yes.

I said okay thank you. So talking to Mark and Ed during the week trying to track things down and what was going on about getting it. I hadn't gotten any response. So I had sent Evan some texts. So on Thursday, September 12th, I sent him a text, said, good morning, I need to get those two checks from you. I didn't get a response.

I had a finance meeting at St. Luke's. I sat on the head of that finance committee and I saw Evans in the parking lot. So I pulled over and said, he was there to pick up his wife and it was raining. And I asked him, I said,

I need to find out about getting the checks. And then he didn't say anything, he drove off. So, you know, and he said, I said to him, I said, I'm to him, I said, I'm not sure what you mean by you will find out about getting me the checks.

So, this is the process, we were checking on things and then I talked to Mark, Ed Manning, we were supposed to get with Ed and Ed happened to tell Mark that one of the checks had already cleared the bank. And Mark told me that. I said, so I went online and checked and found the check,

it cleared the bank, and then, whoa, Evan's name was written above Carl Newman.

What check was that?

It was one of the scholarship checks. It was for $10,000. And on the Friday the 13th, I had texted him. you know, I said I spoke with the finance department of Carl Newman. I need to get those checks from you today. We need to get those signature rights resolved. I said, what time do you want to meet at St. Luke's? And his response was, good morning brother. Listen, you don't need to give $2,500 for each.

Nicholas family wants to save theirs for next year and others to pay 5,000. If you want to fix it, just get 2,500 for Megan. That's all you need. You don't need those checks. Those two checks are not in question anymore.

I have already voided them, right? And I said, thanks for responding. I don't understand your reluctance in getting the checks to me. That's fine if you voided checks however Ed is the one who should be voiding the checks. In order to get the new ones issued I will need to get Ed those checks. He will need to keep them for bookkeeping purposes. The only other option is to put a stop

payment on those checks. I would like to avoid the costs of the council. In regards to the Ramos family I was already aware of the situation. What time today can we meet at St. Luke's to get the check? And I happened to see him outside St. Luke's that afternoon and asked him about the checks and I was told I don't want to give them to you, I would give them to Ed. And at that point in time, we were still scuffling. I had the void, I found the void of checks. I went online, got the voided checks.

We talked to Mark. We said we need, so I called Father Andrew, set a meeting up with him. And the three of us talked and said we need to report this. This is, these things have been altered. The check was altered and then the money hadn't gone. So we set a meeting immediately we went to the Palm

Springs Police Department that Saturday afternoon, went to the Palm Springs Police Department, made the report. I've got the report number we did there. They reported it at that time.

I'm going to present the check to you here. I want you to take a good look at it and let me know if anything seems out of the ordinary. Okay.

The main things it's definitely out of the ordinary is above on the page of the order of line was written Carver Newman High School. Above that, it's written the name Evans Paul. And it's endorsed on the back of the check. And I'm not sure if the line through Edward Knight's name is from the machine or not, or not, but Evans' name is above that. And this name be written above on our council,

any checks that are filthy written are supposed to be signed by the treasurer and the grand knight I don't know if Evans name was on the account at that time and not to put you have his name on it as on the signature line but to definitely have it his name above Carmen Newman is incorrect okay and is endorsed on the back to him are you familiar with uh... as far as what yes i'll call it

i was a position in the church

uh... i think it did church itself uh... she's all i think we should use a new christian minister which means you can't pass out to me and it's a good time she does also work at the school

she's a it does does work at the school she's a bit does work at the school now her work is compensated i think her work in the school is compensated and you do it for a shot

you know she's involved possibly a what's going on with this fall

i have no idea

uh... has evidence paul ever come up to you by chance and ever told you anything of distress as in financial troubles or anything?

To me personally, no.

Okay. And from just from your own personal belief or record, why would Evans Paul do anything like this?

I have no idea. I was totally shocked about this. And, you know, when I pulled up that check and I was like I think I text mark when I'm calling like you're not gonna believe this. You know here. I'm thinking all the time. I'm gonna go To Newman and try to get the money back, and you know there's ten grand's already gone And we have someone's else's names on the check so it kind of was shocking

And is there anything else that you would like to tell me that I haven't asked you or anything that you'd like to say for the record? When I started this whole program for the scholarship money, I felt we were doing something really good for kids and trying to help the kids.

And for me personally it it it's got a point where i just felt like you know how can we do something so good that people are making it it feels so bad to do you know it turns out that it's almost like you don't even want to do it

and you know and try and sit there and pray to you know we gotta move forward and get behind and get this thing put the rest and it just made a really good situation feel bad and you know, I just sit there and I pray about like look you need to keep doing this and move it on and not not let something negative

Turn it bad and we've done I think a really good job of trying To contain this and not let it get out. So everybody, cuz you know, I'm gonna tell this person that for next thing, we tried to keep it really close knit. As I said, I know Mark and I have, we haven't really talked to anybody about it. But hopefully other people,

just trying to keep it a small number of people that understood the same.

Mr. Paul is interviewed about the checks at the Palm Beach County Sheriff's

Office please state your full name again Evans Paul okay Evans Paul I'm gonna read read you your rights okay with you understanding your words are you willing to speak with me sure okay so mr. Paul okay so this is obviously has to do reference of net of Columbus Columbus. Night of Columbus, okay. So you were, okay. What is your role in the Night of Columbus?

Like what do you report?

I mean, when that happened I was a grand knight.

You were a grand knight, okay. You were appointed a grand knight, okay. Yes. Have you ever had a job in the church that you've ever been compensated for? No. No?

No. No, no, it's been all I've been yes, I've been volunteering Yeah, how long have you been at the church attending the church for it's been like since 1999 Yeah

26 years and during the time around July There's an incident that occurred, okay? Uh, reference, I guess, they had a meeting?

Yes.

And there was a discrepancy? Yes. A reference phone, so yeah, can you explain, like, what that discrepancy was?

Yes, so what happened is, this was like, uh, after, you know, when you get night, the church, everybody, when there's something, they need to talk to you. Okay. when there is something they need to talk to you. So usually I used to pick up my wife because she always done at six o'clock after care. So when I went there to pick up my wife and then I went to see, there is a blue tent like family life, so I went to sit there.

And then there's like some Haitian on Friday, we have Haitian prayer, so they know me, I've been just, you know, been sitting there talking to them. And then, Ed, he's the tuition. Ed came, he was like,

hey Vince, I really wanna talk to you, they tell me you're here. I was like, okay, what happened, what's going on? He was like, there's something I really wanna talk to you about because now you're getting that. I said, what happened? We've been collecting money as a donation for scholarship. It's been three years.

They make a picture with the people for the donation, but they never give the money. I mean, Sunni tell me that that's like click with my mind. If you're getting people donation for something, you should give that money out. Especially you stand up in the church, you make a picture with those people, everybody sees like they're going to have a scholarship. And then they never receive the money. I was like, okay, just tell me what happened.

And then when he tells me, they never give the money for three years. It's been past three years. So as I'm hungry at night, so he needs my help. I was like, what kind of help you need? He was like, we need to give the scholarship everything I was like okay those two girls I know them so I can talk to them I was like as the people said they have a scholarship for four years so that's been $2,500 each year so there's gonna be $10,000 back there so it's going to be $20,000 so I tell him this is what we're gonna do because my kids

over there to what that school can you know you meant is what we're going to do. Because my kids are over there at that school. Carry on, you men. So what we do, we pay the tuition online. Like in the website called FACTS. I tell him, this is what we're going to do. I can just get the money, and then I put the money in my account.

I can go to FACTS, just contact those parents, get the information, and then make the payment online. He was like, if it's as soon as you can do, you help me out, that would be fine. I said, okay. So he went to his car, he went home, he wrote the check, but he wrote the check back home. But I think he's gonna come with the check, I can tell him like, just put my name on it, because I already tell him, I will just get nine, you don't have to buy the half time. So he said, you don't have time to go to the bank with me to put your name in the account. So you get nine anyway. So just sign on the top.

He gives me the pen. He was like, sign on the top of my signing. Put need to find out like with the parents first, so how much money because you get only one scholarship. The school gives you a scholarship and everything. So I just want to see how much the difference, if it's higher than $2,500 a year or if it's

less.

But myself, if it's less, I will give them the rest of the money because $2,500 is belong to them every year. All right. So, okay. So, after I talked to the parents, one parent tell me, Evans, I don't have no balance

because we have a Spanish scholarship I got, so can I use that money next year? I said, yes, next year you can have $5000 next year. But there is one of them, when I do events, like selling tickets and everything, she always help me out,

selling tickets for me and everything at the church. So I really need to give her that money. Then she owed the school $2,300 some dollars. So then we have a scholarship for $2,500 for her. Her name is Kelly. So I always promised her, we're going to get the money, we're going to get the money. So after that, I went to my bank.

It was two checks, $20,000. I deposited one check, $14,000. So I told them, this is a scholarship, checks from the Netherlands of Columbus. So I'm going to give to Cardinal Newman. So they checked the deposit. So they said the check's going, I think, the first day was September 5th, something like that, the check's going to be due. But the girls keep asking me if it's when you're gonna pay and everything. We always text, I said the check is not clear yet. I'm waiting for the check to be clear that way I can pay it for you. Right?

So after that we're gonna have a meeting. So I'm the one that's the host of the meeting and everything. If I have to ask questions I can But the money is not out yet from the account. But we see there is $20,000 cheque out for the scholarship. And then there is a guy named Robert Maryscale. He just stands up and says, oh no, there is no money. We cannot give any scholarship without me. And this thing, that pissed me off. Because I knew things he didn't know.

Because I was like, listen, dude. It's been like three years. You keep making big show of people. You say you're going to give scholarship. You never give it. So now I'm the get man. So I'm responsible to give those people the scholarship.

Because I know you want to use the money for your own gain. Because lately, he came with a few other guys from NAFTA moving down here. They took it apart. They put that money in what we call a market you know they gonna use it for like market so to big benefits out of it so which is I said no you can't do that

because the money is deletion it's good for the scholarship so now you guys want to use the money this in the market all right so always against that and then after that I was like after the meeting done we always eat after the meeting my wife always like give me food for everybody to eat. I call him, I say, listen. Who'd you call?

Who'd you call? Warbit.

Warbit.

Yeah, he was the one that we discussed. I was like, listen, that's the way I am. Dude, I don't want to take like a half a million dollars on a problem with you. So I'm sorry if I say something that will offend you so I'm sorry about it and then we done we start talking and everything but by tomorrow I received a text from him I need the checks yes I didn't even answer believe me I didn't answer. I saw the text messages.

yeah because I didn't like have any I didn't take any checks from you so why you asking for checks so at three o'clock I mean around five something I went to pick up my wife he knew I'll be there so he was waiting in the back you know he came next to my car says like and Evans can you give me the checks I would tell him like listen dude I don't have any checks for you did I get any checks from you

no if I have to give checks I will give it to the person that give it to me right so okay and then like I told you, I already told the bank, so, I mean, the scholarship will cancel. I don't want to get involved anymore. So, can you send the money back to TD Bank? That way, you know, I don't want anything to see with that. So, the bank tried to tell me, so the TD Bank need to request the money. So, what me But I don't call them back because I didn't know what they're talking about I was like, yeah, they want you to go to TV big request the money back and then we're done with it so

It's been like time pass because I never talk to nobody even I don't even feel to go to the meeting anymore But I call my assistant. It's Sally Sally Sullivan. It's my assistant. I call him I explained to him this is mission what happened and everything and everything so I was like I don't tell anybody So if you know anyone come to tell you whatever I mean you will know how to tell you, right? And then after that so once on day I went to church and then father and Jules So we have a good relationship. He was at Evans

You know I'm the one that doing our share at the church and then a clock mass was I even someone to talk to you after My son I was like here for there in your office. He was like no just what he wrote and then when I done I said father I'm finished so we came today. We went to the bathroom on the left side. He was like listen They tell me something about the check and this and that but when they tell me that they said they already make a police report but we have what we call a district deputy and then they already tell the district deputy about it they asked me to ask you to step down so I was like that's all you wanna say? He says yes I'm finished I said okay I didn't say nothing else I said okay, but since he says that do you zone why I base off because all of them

They always happy to see me talk to me and everything so if something happened like this So you guys already make a police report so no one call me talk to me about it No one wants to know what I think so what why because the black people always like this stealing You know so I didn't say anything at all I just like forget it. Okay. So now what I did I was really but now I have to deal with the bit in the treasure So I called the church. I said like listen, did you make the request for the money? He said yes, Evans

I did I was like, okay Let me find out what with the bit when I called the bank, the bank said Evans, they want to make me do request for the money but there is something called investigation they're making me agree the check so we cannot release the money until the investigation done. I was like that's all I want to know so I'm waiting for the investigation to be done. I tell you guys just send that money back I want to be finished with everything. That's it.

How long ago was that?

It was back when... It can be back in November or December. I don't really remember the date. But is that normal practice still? Oh yeah, yeah, of course.

For somebody to take the night of Columbus check and put it in their own bank account?

If it's not...

Is that normal? Do all the great nights

Listen, let me tell you what happened. You know when you just get night nobody tells you anything

You need to listen to the treasure only because the truth is taking care of the money He is the one that is sensible soon you get night is the one that's good to be with you I join him in the in the big account So he was the one that like I tell you you, give me the check, says, you can sign it, you can sign right here because you're getting out right now. So like you said, you need 10,000 to pick this scholarship. So yes, this is the way it is.

What if Ed said that's not true, he told you to not put your name like that on the check?

Who, Ed?

Yeah, yeah. and Ken said whatever he wants because like I tell you, yes, Hens was the one that gave me the pen says like sign right here

and said you can put it in your own bank account

that's correct, just to do the payment online because I already cleared with him that's how I make payment what payment online? it was like the scholarship payment for the parents

but why would it come from your bank account? that's what I'm kinda confused, it doesn't

because like to make the payment online you need to be the money is supposed to come from my account because I'm the one that making the payment

but after you deposit a check why did you not tell anybody that you put it in your account and then you'd be paying for it through online like anybody like who I know you're the grand knight but you gotta tell you know because you know you have meetings every quarter, every month, you know, don't you know they will see that money missing? Like, how can you let the people know before you...

I just... no, no. Like I tell you, whoever knows, Ed was the only one that knows. Because when we did the meeting, the first meeting we did after the check, I mean, the check wasn't deposited yet. You remember I tell you that. I said, like, we did the meeting, and then we'll talk about the check, the report. There is a two check that's right

for $20,000 scholarship. And then that's how we're going to have the problem. Because he doesn't want $20,000 get out at once. What he wants to give $25,000 a year. So that the most money that's supposed to get out is like 5,000.

So, right. So that's it. But why would you do, if you know that's going to be a problem, why would you do $20,000? I didn't know it was going to be a problem. I didn't know that. You just said that they want to be $20,000. Exactly. They want that after, like before. The check was right before the meeting.

But it's always been $2,500 increments ever since they started and he created it because it was both Mark and Robert that created this scholarship. So basically you basically decided upon yourself that you're gonna take that money, deposit it

and then pay them regardless.

No, he was gonna, I mean, this is the reason why I deposited only one check, because the other girl, for this year, she didn't have any balance. It's only one girl that have balance, $2,300. So, basically, I mean, after I paid that $2,300,

whatever that's left over to make it like $2,500, but I was not gonna do that. I was gonna give the total the total right you know pay the balance and then give it to the $14,000 for the 44 years which is a one time. But then you attempted to submit another check for $10,000 right? Submit what? You tried to get another check for $10,000 right? No no no those two checks was at the same time the same time the same minutes okay which is 20,000 exactly I know but why would you do another $10,000 because it's for two people

Evans called okay and then you wrote up top yeah you know me do that yeah you know me do that oh no no when I did that right when I said is that normal for you? No, no. When I did that, I tried... When I was with Ed, I tell you. When I wasn't with Ed, I did that.

When you wasn't with Ed?

When I was with Ed. I said, look, will you give me the check? Okay. Yes. And Ed told you to use that? Ed was the one's give me the pen

Unfortunately, the biggest problem that we have here is a check period. Yes, the check of $10,000. Okay Unfortunately, we can't go by hearsay. Okay, we don't have no proof that and or this person or any person told you to Put their name across and it in your bank account. Okay? From what I see now is, listen, everybody has issues,

especially the economy. A lot of things are crazy expensive, this and that, whatever. You know, even myself, the same things I bought at Costco used to be $400, now I'm making $800.

Everybody's going through a headache. Everybody's going through something. All right? dollars I'm gonna have your dollars you know everybody's going through a headache everybody's going through something all right but again I'm trying to help you out the best I can okay I need you to be honest with me because at the end of the day what you did is illegal okay you cannot afford to check okay you're not you can't put you from anything and you can't deposit it in

your account period because it didn't happen like that before it wasn't like that it's really stupid I mean it's the problem is I am the one that's stupid I should not accept him tell me to put money I can do that yeah but if he said no that is set

up what he knew that's going to be happen because you said he said no again

I cannot take your words which is his word here but all I know is I have all I have is the evidence. It's your signature, which you just said. You notice a check. You are obviously going inside, talking to the teller, and depositing it. No, it was in the drive-thru. I'm just saying, you're doing a drive-thru, depositing it, and then going to your account.

And unfortunately, your account was already negative. Okay. Which why there's was as soon as you dropped it, there was $73 missing. And that's why it was, it went down to $9,926.03. Okay. So, you know, it doesn't, it doesn't look good when I can pull your account and I can see all these overdrafts and you know, like I said, it's hard or whatever. So it looks like you had the intent to possibly do this to maybe help yourself and your family because obviously you got kids, you got whatever, and then you were going to pay the money back

or quickly do what you had to do, which is, that's a different case if you had the permission to do that. Okay. As of right now, the people that I spoke to, the people I interviewed, the people that I swore in said, that's a practice that's never been done and nobody gave them permission to do that.

So that's the issue that we have here. Okay. Now I'm trying to help you to help me out and you need to tell me the truth why you did what you did so I could then maybe tell the judge later or so-and-so whatever I can't listen I was Paul's honest he's not a bad guy we're not looking for him to go to jail or do this or do that you know I'm saying yes

let me tell you like I tell you I didn't do that because I did the money I already tell you the truth I did that just to help Kelly to pay the scholarship I didn't do it because I need the money to use for myself. No, that was at my scholarship. You know, that was me. Pomer said, like, I see they give you the scholarship.

So you help him out selling the ticket and everything. So I will do the best I can just to pay the balance for you. You know? Yes, this is the reason why I tell you we take 2 times 10,000 for 4 years for those 2 parents. That's it. No. But if I need to steal the money, I will deposit both checks. I had both checks in my hand. So why you don't have the copy in the other one?

They tell you it was like $20,000? No.

No, I have... What happened was the other one wasn't wasn't the positive like this one basically got clear That's why they're able to take the $73 from from the first. No, you'd be watching clip. What do you know? I okay. I get it. I'm just saying is it what's your account? It's up Okay, so what's your account that means it was clear to your account you made up? Oh, yes, I understand And then when it was found, Robert told me that he had access to that to check because it was made for the night in Columbus. He's the one that stopped it.

And that's why you have a problem of retrieving back right now because it's referenced this investigation. So Robert was the one that initially stopped the check. That's not true. Yes, that's what I.

Yeah, that's not true.

Okay.

Yes. That's what I... Yeah. That's not true. Okay. Yes. He says... And then obviously it did not help when he's trying to talk to you and then you ignoring him...

No.

...about the check...

No, no, no.

...and the text message and then, you know, he went to go meet you at, you know, obviously at the church when you picked him up from your wife...

Yes. ...and he just sped off on him and whatnot. that you get the checks from you. So if I have to return the checks, I will return it to the person that give it to me. That's what I said. So you're saying you have no intention to steal the money from myself? No, that's what they want.

And you have no problems with your money as of right now?

No, as of right now? By the time I'm talking to you right now? Nah.

Like it's parable to Cardinal Newman, right? Of course.

Or by Ed to Treasurer, right? No, no, no. But why would it be? Listen, the account itself, that's in name of the account. Yes. Itself.

Yes.

Yes, that's in name of the account.

I understand that. wouldn't that make sense to go to that fund and then later be paid out of there? Of course. For tax purposes?

Of course.

Or any type of purposes?

Yes, of course.

For receipt purposes, right?

Yes, of course.

Since it's a not-for-profit.

Well, to pay it online too, you have all those things. You will have your receipt and everything.

Okay.

Because literally, when I'm making the payment for myself, my kids is in school over there. That's what I did, I just go online, made it. This is the reason I contact the parents to get like the account information, just do it online. That's what, at that time, that's all I was thinking at that time.

Okay, which was not very smart.

Do we both agree with that? go anywhere you just sit on put yourself on you go now you do whatever you have to that's why I was taking that time but like you said but it's smart you know

what you're not agreeing with me for within when I could go around in circles all right yes the fund is made for that $2,500 yes it's never taken an alum sum of 10 all right just hear me out it's never taken that lump sum of 10 okay the reason for is hear me out. It's never taken that lump sum of 10, okay? The reason for it is because the $10,000 is the maximum they can get, right?

For four years.

So, yes, okay, I understand that, for four years. All right, so the reason for that is, just like you said, if they left school or their grades are not kept up or what, or any of that issue, then you're not out of all that money. You know, it's already taken out in a consign account and maybe gross more money or whatever percent, whatever is left in the account to continue growing

or yielding or whatever, what have you, okay? You took upon yourself, all right, as the grand knight to take that check and deposit it, okay? Yes. Yes, all right, we can agree on that, okay? Then you proceeded

whether you like you said which was stupid or not super edge said you could do this or not wrote your name up top of Cardinal Newman and then deposit it to your account? No, no, no. I didn't do scratch. Okay, you put a line out. No, no, no. If you see that line, that wasn't me. No, probably I don't know if it's a copy. No, I didn't put a line. Okay, but you wrote your name above his signature. That's correct, yes. Okay, and then you deposited it to the truck. Yes. What I'm telling you is that doesn't make sense because it's not supposed to be like that. You took that upon yourself. You're in a shift to do that. I suppose so, yes. Okay, so right now, unfortunately, I do believe that you did have maybe malice intent

of basically stealing all that money, but what you did is wrong, period.

Okay. Do you understand that?

Yes.

Okay, you cannot write your name over checking, you cannot sign your name. Okay. All right? Alright, so as of right now, what you're looking at as as being charged is grand theft of $10,000 and Uttering a forged instrument, which is a jerk. Okay. Those are two felonies. Okay. Um, I Try to help you out. I'm not saying that you know, I'm not saying that you did anything wrong or anything like that, but You're not helping yourself if you told me you

have financial problems this is where you did this you weren't thinking and then you're late to pay back this now whatever I can't force you to say anything I don't have money looking I could only look at what I have is just a proof here of all your statements and looking at all the fees and all the unpaid balances and certain things that you have here is suspended license and you know that's all I could go by,

which is the actual evidence.

I will never tell you, yes. That's fine. That's all I have on my intention is to steal the money. No, that's what I'm saying.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Mr. Paul's wife, who is waiting outside, is informed of her husband's arrest.

He's not a volunteer position. arrest. help. Black, they always give the scholarship. They never give it to the kids. And then now, how is it going? Now I need your help. Eventually, he tell my husband to say, ease them in the tab. Okay, my husband just... Who are you talking to? The one who...

Ed?

Ed.

Okay, but you don't know his name.

Ed. Ed. That's, that hurt my feelings.

I hear you, but...

As you serving God... No, of course. That's that hit my feeling. I hear you. As you serving God, you don't put people in trouble for that. You don't deserve to get arrested for that. And I'm going to file the injury to the police. I'm going to the police. I've been at St. Luke's 26 years. My son, I get married there. We helping.

I used to be out as a coordinator. I'm working at this school.

It's embarrassing.

He doesn't deserve that. He's helping. I'm going to ask the parents. I tell you that. I'm going to ask the parents to be involved in that. He has all the texts in. All the texts. He's going to pay the scholarship for the kids. I'm struggling. I don't use people. We don't steal. I know you're doing your job.

The life is hard.

The life is hard.

If I explain to you my life, I stay in aftercare. We don't steal.

I hear you.

Listen, like you said, I'm just doing my job.

You're doing your job. When my husband told me that, I said if I can't sue him, I will sue him.

I will sue him.

He just work in 727. He don't even get home. When he tell me that, I don't even eat my lunch. I come home with my food.

I understand.

He don't deserve to get arrested.

I appreciate that. That's why I did it to you.

That's why I did it to you.

That's why I did it to you. Not quiet, because you don't deserve that. You don't deserve that. That's why I did it to you.

Tomorrow I'm going to talk to Father Andrewday and you're going to talk to nobody.

I'm going to?

No, you're not going to talk to nobody.

I'm going to? My name's going now.

Huh?

My name's going now.

You go to the gun club, okay?

I just want you to say hi, bye, and then cell phone? He told you already. He told them I'm going to meet with the police.

So tell them things are going to be OK.

He had. He had.

Tell them everything will be OK.

Tell nobody. Don't cry, OK?

OK, sit. I'm going to add the rest of it.

I'll finish with some more of course. OK.

All right.

I love you.

I love you.

Give me a second. You say, you tell me, don't say anything.

No, don't say anything.

No, I have to go to see Father Andrew.

No, no, you don't need to say anything.

Whatever you, we can talk later.

He's in charge, he's the priest in charge there.

Samu, Samu, Jew, them is the favorite days of my life. I'm not going to tell Megan's mom.

I'm going to tell them.

Yeah, Megan's mom you can tell her.

I'm going to tell them.

That's why I tell them. I tell them I do that for Megan's mom. You tell her I get arrested because they say I steal the money.

I have my kids that are human too.

I don't even... If mommy needs it, we can put them to bag too. I don't even... I don't even...

I show them. I don't even...

I don't even... I don't even...

I don't even...