Ce qu'il s'est vraiment passé

Ce qu'il s'est vraiment passé... I Hors-Ligne #1 (ft Allan)

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And that's when I realized it was over for me. That's when the police officer asked a doctor who came to see the kids, and he said, yeah, I need a certificate for an ability to go to jail.

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I went to Marrakech with the kids.

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I accompanied you.

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Yeah, you accompanied us. You took the flight. Two days later, I find out that I'm eating with the kids in a restaurant in Marrakech. I call and you don't answer. And then I get a message like,

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what, you got arrested?

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My dream, and your dream, is to be able to take off from Charles de Gaulle. To take a plane again and to feel free. Fly in the air, be in a plane, to think that no one is watching us, no one is watching us. That's what I miss the most.

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I put my whole life aside for you.

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Oh yeah, my life is so cute.

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In reality, my life is on the other side. I let you live, it's not your dream, but in reality, my life is on the other side. You, I let you live, it's not your dream but basically...

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Oh I'm going to cry when you say that. I don't like it when you say that.

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No but you saw that you wanted... that you liked the influence. It's difficult, tomorrow I can't go back to work as a normal person.

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The next episode

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This podcast, girls, the one you're going to see now, it's going to last 72 hours. We'll leave you with a 72-hour visibility on it. Because we've answered all your questions about the past. Then we'll delete it, we'll write a new page, we'll turn the page and we'll move on.

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Hello my dolls!

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So, as planned, with Alan, we decided to launch a podcast. Because we are still looking for our proximity with you. It's true that with our time schedule, we don't necessarily have time to do long camera phases. In fact, we have so many things to tell you. You missed so many things that for us, the best idea for us was the podcasts, to talk to you, to give you the most information,

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the time of a video that you can watch on a Sunday, etc. To update you on the news of Poufette Kenza and Alan and his family. So we are so happy to do this podcast with you. We hope it will be a hit, that you will like it, that you will make it your little safe place. And that's it, in any case, that's all we're saying.

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Girls, it's going to be an appointment. I don't want to tell you how often it's going to be, etc. For me, with Alan, we're going on a goal of about two episodes a month. We'll see with the schedule, we'll see. You know our deadlines, exam period, etc. We prefer not to promise you anything. But here it's going to be a little chill moment.

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There will be themes, we will address many different subjects. There will be guests, we will talk about very important things. We will talk about parental care, we will talk about mental health. We will invite artists, we will invite crazy guests. We can't wait. So here is the first episode.

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We announced it with my husband, of course. We're very happy. And we're so excited. Don't hesitate, girls, to suggest who you would like to see sitting in Alan's place. Or sitting in my place. We take all your ideas.

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We launch ourselves. It's a bit fresh, it's a bit new. So, my dolls. This video is sponsored by Géladale, the best fast food chain in France. They have always supported us, even when we were back on social media. Give them strength, don't let them go.

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Girls, frankly, they are the best. They did big operations with the biggest ones, with Zidane, etc. And it's an honor for us to work going to leave this video for 72 hours. 72 hours?

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Yeah, I think that's good. Like the length of your watch.

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Yeah, girls, 72 hours. Like the length of my watch, I'm not proud of it. No, we're going to leave it for 72 hours because we're going to say very intimate things. And things we want to move on to. We need to turn the page. We want to put you back on the date on the information, since you ask a lot of questions, since you ask a lot of questions,

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it's true that my book has sold out to hundreds of thousands of copies, but it's true that there are still a lot of dolls who are asking questions, or maybe I haven't opened up enough, this allows us to talk to you live about everything we've been through,

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about everything that happened, and about everything that's going to happen. We can start from the beginning. We left the dolls on a subject that is very taboo in our couple. You blame me for that all the time.

4:30

Yeah, I blame you too. Because it comes out all the time now. And I don't like it, you know. In the position where you taught me.

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In fact, we left you on a video where Alan was feeling uncomfortable. Alan still blames me for posting that. I don't know why I posted that. I don't know, girls. So first, I wanted to apologize to my husband for posting that. In front of all my dolls.

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Even if I know it doesn't make up for what happened.

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Do you regret it?

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Yes, I regret it. But I tell myself, why did I do that? But when you're in panic, you can't control it. So, yeah, sorry. So you left on that, the girls. And then, well, a lot of things happened.

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Go ahead, my dear, I'll let you tell the rest.

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Well, the rest... I went to Marrakech with the kids. I accompanied you. Yes, you accompanied us. You took the flight. Two days later, I found out that I was eating with the kids in a restaurant in Marrakech. I called you just before, I'm with Kallis. He wants to talk to you on the phone. I call you and you don't answer.

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And then we see a message like what? You get arrested and you have to tell us.

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I'm going to tell my version of the story, which is yours, but in a little more detail. So yeah, we left in Marrakech. I remember I drove all the way because you just got your case, I was so scared.

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No, I drove.

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No, you drove to 1h, I like to extrapolate

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All the time, that's true

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Kenza spit everything out

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That's true

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So I drove, can you update us on the fact that you don't have any particular health issues?

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No, I don't have any particular health issues I went to see a...

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Neurologist

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Yeah, a neurologist. I went to see him and he told me it was more due to fatigue, the road.

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As a future doctor, I'm convinced that it's not just fatigue or vagal malaise. But I have a husband who never wants to do serology, blood tests, nothing at all. So we don't know what he has.

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I have nothing in Dubai before I came back.

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So what did they say? Everything is fine?

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No problem.

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Your blood cells, everything is ok? So we arrive in Marrakech. I remember, you remember, I was pregnant. I didn't even have time to eat before taking the plane. Except that I was so keen on my best friend's wedding that I was ready to take any risks. I knew that there was this whole thing about being called up and all,

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but I didn't imagine it to be that big. For me, I was like, I'm going to get called up, it's going to last 4 minutes and 30, I'm leaving. We were all in denial.

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We all thought that.

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Yeah, we all thought that. And then, what happened is that I arrive at the airport. So what the dolls don't know is that I was doing a vlog. I was doing a vlog of how I arrive in France, basically in a hidden mode, to get to my girlfriend's wedding. And I thought it was too gratifying to do that, but they quickly brought me back to earth.

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By the way, they have a phone, so they had to see everything. So I arrive at the airport, I remember I was very tired, we had a stop in Portugal and when I arrive, so I sleep at night, 4 am, I get dropped off at home and everything. And in fact, you know what? I swear I felt, you know, we have the human instinct, you see,

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I felt, subhanallah, when I was watching my kids, at the last moment, I felt like I hadn't seen them for a long time. I felt a pressure in my body, I thought, is it really...

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You felt what?

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Yeah, I thought, am I going to come back? And you and I were angry because of the video, you didn't even say goodbye. That's why you were sad afterwards.

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Yeah, it's normal, your wife fell in prison,

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it's normal that you were sad after that. Yeah, it's normal. Your wife ended up in prison. It's normal to be sad.

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That's why, my dolls, never leave you in bad terms with the people you love. No matter what happens, no matter what, I promise you that I regretted leaving without kissing him. And I think he did too.

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Yeah.

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So, I arrive, I do my little starlet, I do my brushing and all that. All that, right now, the police are in my pockets. So I don't know, I'm in complete denial. I had the honor of participating in the religious wedding of Souk. And in fact, I was exhausted from the flights, I remind you. You sent me a picture.

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In the toilets and everything. From Souk, where I told you, I can't take it anymore, I'm tired.

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It was the next day, right?

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Yeah, the next day, the day of the interpellation. Yeah, the day of the interpellation. And then we arrive in a street, I told you, it's not me driving, we're not going to go into detail. But what I mean is that...

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You're parked, the police arrive, they ask for the driver's papers and they ask for your papers.

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Vehicle papers, while...

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So you know very well that...

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It was for me, I felt it. Except that I'm still in denial, I'm thinking, basically, nothing's going to happen, etc. And you, so it was the last call? Yes, at that moment I think I was calling you.

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Callis wanted to talk to you on the phone.

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And I never had my son.

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And you never had your son. I sent you the screenshot of Callis who wanted to talk to you. I think I showed it to you. And then it's up to you to tell the rest. As soon as I learned that, I called the lawyer. Who taught you that? Souk? Yeah, Marea Souk. I called the lawyer.

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He told me he was going to get in touch right away. After that, I got in touch with him. I even paid him directly.

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He asked me directly.

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You paid him directly? You were so scared. Oh yeah, the lawyers. Maître Calffon, kisses. What I experienced was the transition from denial to reality. When I arrived at the police station, I thought I was going to be released in 2-3 hours.

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The police officers asked me for a picture of their children. I thought it was going to be quick. At the end, 24 hours, 48 hours, 72 hours. And then I realize that... It was hard. I saw my life go by.

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And it was when I realized it was over for me, it was when the police officer asked a doctor who came to see the... And he said, I need a certificate for an ability to go to detention. When I heard that, I said to myself, no, they're not going to do that to me. And that's when I understood.

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And then, you know, I didn't follow in my life anymore. In my head, my brain didn't follow what was happening anymore. I put myself as a psychological barrier where I said to myself, you know, I shouldn't tell myself that I'm going to jail because I'm going to go crazy. And what did you feel at that moment?

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Honestly, I was shocked. I was shocked that they put you in jail for that, a pregnant woman. I was shocked, I didn't believe it. So what I did was, I recovered. You have to recover. So I took the flight. For me it's Anna and Kallis.

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We took off to Dubai because we had to return the apartment. We had to return the apartment. We had to get the cat. There were things to settle in Dubai. So I made sure that I settled...

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Because I saw a lot of things. Like I didn't go home directly. But our life abroad. You can't just leave like that. If you get put in jail, I'm going to get put in jail too. So I made the choice to go to Dubai and settle what we had to do there.

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Because there were a few things to do. But yeah, the flight, I was shocked. I had a hard time understanding the situation. I didn't understand why.

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I agree with you on that. I think that in all our criminal cases, it always takes proportions. Because we are public figures, because there is a target on us, I hear that. I was sending messages to the lawyer telling him that I'm a strong woman, that I don't care about prison, that I'll handle it.

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I was a wet hen, I was pooping on myself. When I arrived, the first thing I said to myself was I need to be isolated because they're going to kick my ass. You were in a VIP. No, I wasn't in a VIP, my life is... Yes, it's VIP

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VIP, I don't know if you call it VIP

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You're in isolation

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You're in isolation, but hey... You know that if I hadn't been pregnant, they would have thrown me in the jungle And I would have been screwed

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No, because you're a public figure

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Yeah, it's true, it's dangerous for us

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Yeah

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Anyway, in any case I think we'll cut short the detention part, because I don't want to talk about it for too long. What do you think, my life? Anyway, it's a video that's going to last 72 hours, we don't care.

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Yeah, but you can tell us more later. What's your first impression when you saw it?

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My first impression is... I thought we all had orange uniforms. You're exaggerating. But on the children's heads, I thought shocked. I didn't know the prison world, I didn't know anyone. So, I see that. I didn't think it was closed doors, like in a closed wood. I thought there were bars.

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I saw myself like that. In the end, I realized that, frankly, it was dramatic for me due to the separation between the children and you, but I was not alone. I was not alone. I was not alone. I was not alone.

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I was not alone. I realized that it was dramatic for me because of the separation between the kids and you, but in reality, prison is not what we think.

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It's not what you think, but most people think it is.

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I don't know if they would have... But prison is hard. Prison is very hard. It's very hard, but I think there are people who would like to be in prison.

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And you were isolated, you didn't do any activities.

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What was harder for me...

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What was good for me was that I came home for the first time. When I came home, it's true that I was shocked too. You too? Yes, I was shocked.

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I arrive in front of the prison, you can see the walls, that's when you get shocked. I was so scared for you, I'll tell you why. Because us women, I'm pregnant, I'm single, but I was so scared of men. I thought, imagine if they all started to put their hands on my husband. Imagine if they all started to put their hands on my husband, and say, Alan, puppet, and I when you see the prison walls, that's when you're in shock.

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You think, oh yeah, it's over, you're going to spend the night in there.

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But you were prepared psychologically. Yeah, I was prepared. So there's a debate that opposes us girls, and we can't resolve this debate. Alan says it's worse to be prepared to go to prison than to be taken by surprise.

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I think it's worse to be prepared to go to jail, than to be taken by surprise. I think it's worse to be prepared. You know you're going to jail, and you're preparing yourself. It's worse. Every day you live, you know that in 15 days you're going to be locked up.

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Whereas for you, it came all of a sudden.

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It came all of a sudden, but then the hair fell off.

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For example, I was in Dubai, I was living my life, not living my crazy life, but I had a routine, and in 10 days it would stop, so it's difficult.

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Everyone sees it that way. It shocked me, but it's true that you, I never had the idea, you know what Alan, I agree with you on what you're saying? You know why? What do I think about every day?

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What do I tell you all the time?

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I don't know, you say too many things.

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No, but... In my life, something I tell you, I'm too scared, I'm too scared. An ordeal is coming.

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Judgment?

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Yeah. In fact, the day of my trial, it's a day I fear more than anything else in the world. Because I've created such a balance with our family, with our children and everything. I'm so afraid of what could happen to me, that we don't have a date, we don't have anything. So the fake news, yes we were judged on Thursday, Friday, 4 o'clock.

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No, we don't have a date.

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Girls, we don't have a date. We don't have a date. The case is still in the process of being closed. We don't have a date. We hope to be judged as soon as possible. We will tell you more about this in other podcasts. We are currently experiencing very complicated situations. Very, very complicated in France.

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Even if we are... In my opinion, it is our core that makes us happy. It is our family core. Even if there are small factors that make people, and the administration and many other things,

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persecute us, it doesn't reach us like before. So I can talk about it without whining, without crying. But really, the expiration of judgment is a day that frightens me, but that will relieve me.

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Because basically, whatever it is, whatever happens, I know that our life will start over.

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It's the same, when I came back, I was relieved. I said to myself, I know, I'm not going to do it for more than a year. I know that I was going to leave, and finally I did. It's a shock, but you get used to it. I made some acquaintances, there were some people I knew, so it went well. Then you do your thing, it's hard every day, but you have to.

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Yeah, but you know I would never have imagined that one day I would go to prison. Sometimes I would go to the prison, we lived next to it. We used to live next to the prison, the girls, remember? I would go in front of it, I would imagine what I would see. The prisoners and everything. I was like, poor prisoners.

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In fact, two years later, it's me behind these walls. It's crazy how life can change at any moment. So today...

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It's behind us now.

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Yeah, it's behind us, my life. We're waiting for the trial. And now it will be really behind us because it's true that... But for now it's between parenthesis I admit that my life, like, the judicial problems it's really affecting me morally

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Yeah for you because I think you're a stressed person I'm a bit... I don't care you know When it's going to happen a month before

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I'm going to be a bit stressed Oh the tear you're talking about

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I can't imagine that! It's crazy!

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You have to live and if you think about it, you live. I would like you to talk about your cell, what you did in your cell. Because I want to say it too.

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In my cell, I did a little bit of sport, I didn't eat, it's more my ethnic side. Did you say hi to him? Maybe he can hear you? No, it's ok. I was watching TV, what do you want to do? You do the cleaning, you watch TV...

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I want you to say it!

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Yes, I'm very...

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Very maniac!

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Yes, very maniac!

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He wasn't totally agree with me, but I like to do the cleaning. I like when everything is clean, my house is folded and everything is clean so yeah I do the cleaning no wait, go ahead you have the right to say you do the cleaning

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I know how bad people are for a reason

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no I'm gonna say something

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my problem today with this cleaning is that today for me you acquired you're telling the truth for me you have of a maniac and it scares me a lot. The other time, the girls, there were frozen steaks, they were on your work. He aligned them so that it was straight.

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Yeah, but when you live in a 9 square meter, you have to have everything in place. I don't like it, you're already restricted. You can't move, you can't afford to add things that prevent you from moving in a cell. So yes, it was very maniacal.

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You did the cleaning, and your co-detainee did the meal.

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No, he also did the cleaning sometimes. He was fed up with you doing the cleaning. No, but he did it sometimes. He's the one who taught me how to do the cleaning in the cell. How did he teach you? Basically, there are special techniques What kind of techniques? With the raclette It's worrying what you're saying, you're talking about techniques You don't know anything, you didn't do the cleaning

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Exactly, that's why I'm talking about it So I didn't do the cleaning Because I don't like cleaning I do it by force because you're terrorizing me so I do it So I had a codeine, her specialty was to eat all my cakes. In fact, no, I mean, hello my darling, I send you a big kiss. In fact, she saw her right next to me, but I think she left, my little darling.

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We had a great time. After, I think that in detention, it's not friendships that are supposed to last. Because basically, it's just that you want to move on to something else by going out. And I don't think you keep the don't think you can keep the bonds, and I think it was also a bit of a hypocrite relationship, because you have to bear it.

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So she did all the cleaning, and I did what? I was canteening, with the money you sent me, so I did all the shopping for us two, and I was preparing the meals because I was hungry. So, frankly, after she left a month before I left a month before my release, and it was a bit sad in my cell. You didn't do any activity? I did zero activity in my life.

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I did.

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What did you do?

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I signed up for football, I signed up for school. You have to get out of the cell. I signed up for CrossFit, and I signed up for the library and the gym.

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And you do too much, man!

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You have to get out of the cell, otherwise you're on TV all day.

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I've been on TV for 4 months. I went for a walk and that's it. In 4 months.

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I went out for a walk.

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I was depressed, bro.

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I went out for a walk. After that, prison is... You have to close your mind sometimes, you have to talk to people, you have to laugh a little bit.

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The prison is hard, the release is hard, big up to you, we love you. But in any case, a little passage of our lives. For now, it's behind us. We try to move on, to stop thinking about it. We live day by day with all this. Otherwise it becomes too anxious, too pressing. A lot of questions, Mavi.

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So I think you're the one who's really going to talk, because I wasn't there, unless I was watching you from afar. On life in Dubai, what happened? How did you organize the kids? Maria, who is she? The cat, how did you do it? The apartment, where did you organize the kids, Maria, who is now a mother, the cat, the apartment, where did you live?

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What was your state of mind?

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At the beginning, we moved into the apartment, as usual. My sister was there with me, she helped me a lot. I had a lot of things to fix, I had to renew my license, I had to renew my visa, I did all that to be in the Caribbean. I did everything to prevent the kids from feeling your absence. I brought them to the mall, to the park, they played, they enjoyed, there are videos.

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We went to the pool with them. We did a lot of things. Of course, I didn't have the morale, but I did it anyway. It's an obligation, it's my kids, they have to feel good. And Maria, we tried to get her to come, but she didn't really agree.

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Do you want me to talk about that?

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Yeah.

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Basically, MissKin, Maria, the girls... I love Maria. We'll tell you later if we'll go to Dubai one day. And if we go again, it'll be Maria. Basically, we gave Maria her visa and all that. She had to come with us to France.

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All of that was legal. But at the last minute... Madam... But at the last minute, she said, Madame, I'm afraid. She said, poor thing. Kenza is in prison, Alan is going to be in prison, where am I going to end up?

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And I totally understand her concern. And so she panicked a bit. So now Maria is at one of my best friends in Dubai. So she's at my little girlfriend Amel's place. Big kiss, my dear.

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And so there you go.

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And the cat, I did all the paperwork. It took me some time because it's complicated sometimes. I couldn't handle everything, I was alone. We joined me later, but most of the time I was alone with my kids. I moved too, I forgot. We were leased an apartment.

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Yes, my girlfriend Amel, she leased us her apartment.

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We were leased an apartment and I organized myself for your departure. And I organized myself for my departure, for the kids. I re-enrolled in CNA school. She did her first months at school there.

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In Dubai, yes

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So I did the re-registration in France before leaving I found the house with the help of your family in France I paid the rent

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So we had to pay, the girls had to pay

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2 years

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Alan paid 2 years of rent in advance So we got around 70,000 euros About that, yes Because we had nothing in France we had no income, no bank account no paycheque no tax

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we had nothing so it was the only way to get a place

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and then I did the paperwork and I boarded with him on the 16th of September

25:42

and when you arrived the police were waiting for you in front of the plane?

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Yeah, as soon as I got off, they were there.

25:49

The cat left with your mother and you?

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Yeah, my mother came to pick up the cat. And they took me to Rouen. I even slept on the road to Rouen.

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But you only sleep, it's not possible. I'm with the police, how do I sleep?

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I was exhausted.

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You see, he was too relaxed, he was too relaxed, he's in a car with a coffee, he's sleeping.

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I prepared myself, I said to myself, it's okay, I'm going to go to jail. That's it.

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Basically, we sleep, we rest. No, but it's not possible, it's not possible to think like that. And me? And I had such a stomachache.

26:25

You always have a stomachache, you're always stressed.

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No, but I'm stressed, but I'm more like my kids. I swear to you that...

26:31

No, you're stressed about everything, everything, whether it's on the networks, everything. Every time there's bad news, you're stressed.

26:37

You're too stressed. Sport helped me a bit. To channel myself. We had a lot of questions, a lot of dolls asking themselves, why are we now, I'm Angivine and you're Angevin, why are we in Angers?

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Well, unfortunately, we are forbidden from our native land,

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the Rouanese region.

27:04

We are forbidden from the Rouanese region. And your your homeland is Guadeloupe, stop denying your origins.

27:08

We were forbidden to go to Rwanda, we couldn't find a place to stay there. The choice of Angers was imposed by the law to do it. We found it in the suburbs of Angers, Brittany. We found Angers and it's a good city, it's like Rouen.

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Yes, it's like Rouen, it's good. The fact that the restrictions were imposed is because there are no maritime borders around Angers. If you go by boat, you land in Venezuela, so you can't go anywhere. Then, it was to be far from the places, from what happened, etc.

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We, in Angers, we like this city, but we live very, very, very badly, the loneliness. That's it. The fact that we don't have our families, we don't have our families, we don't have a family bond. We're always, always, always, always, always with our babies. We're very happy about that.

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But it's true that even to have a restaurant with Alan, we can't anymore. We're always at home. Because in addition to being in Angers, we're not allowed to leave our apartment. So even if we go to Paris, etc., we can't. You have to make a request, have authorizations. It's very hard. But frankly, what do we say to each other in life? We've lived the worst.

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Yeah, we've lived the worst. We come from far away, so I'd rather be here in Angers than in a 9 square meter cell.

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It makes us relativize. Besides, the house is too good.

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It's good, we have a pool.

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We have a pool, so we're relaxed. But yes, it's hard. The next step, what's next for you? After France, because we feel so good in France.

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You feel good.

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I feel so good in France. What bothers me with France, I'll be clear with you girls, it's the administrations. I like the French, I like my dolls. I like the country in itself.

29:04

I like our lands, I like our streets, I like everything. I love the country in itself. I like our lands, I like our streets, I like everything. I love our food, our ingredients.

29:10

I love the shops. It's nowhere else in the world where you find these brands. I love everything. It's my country, we grew up here. Now, what bothers me is the overwhelming administration. Like, really, everyone, like everyone. We must all of that.

29:27

I feel like they're doing a state affair with us every time. If it wasn't for that, I would have stayed in France. So now, we're telling them that we're waiting for the trial.

29:36

No, it's not final, but yes, we're thinking about going abroad, but for now, it's not final. You, with your studies, you can stay for a long time. It depends. For now, it's not final. But we'll go to Dubai one day.

29:51

We'll go again. Even if it's not to live there. But everywhere. I feel uncomfortable in France. Me too.

30:01

I'm afraid of my dolls for my safety. Alan says I do too much. But I swear that once, I, but my dolls for my safety. Alan tells me I'm doing too much. But I swear, once, I was in the car with my kids. There were two guys, Alan wasn't there, he was at the station. Two guys got in my car, I locked all the doors, they were filming us like crazy.

30:19

And that's something you'll never find in Dubai or whatever, the security there. Now, I think, it's not about being in France and wanting to go to Dubai. We miss freedom. My dream, and your dream, is to be able to take off from Charles de Gaulle.

30:33

To go on vacation again.

30:34

To take a plane again and to feel free. Fly in the air, be on a plane. To think that no one is watching us, no one is watching us. That's what I miss the most. You know, girls, we've been on a lot of trips, you've seen us, we've been around the world, and we didn't realize how lucky we were to be able to be free, to be able to travel.

30:54

And I promise you that's what we miss the most. And it's crazy because when we're forbidden to do something, that's when we want it even more. And now, every day we think about taking the plane, leaving. So, in fact...

31:06

You more than me.

31:07

Yes, me more than you. It's true, because I...

31:09

I relativize a lot, actually. There's always worse in the world.

31:12

There's worse with what's happening.

31:14

There are people who die every day. There are a lot of things.

31:18

So, you have to relativize, you wait your turn and it will come. I think it's a challenge. I see it as a break in our life. I don't know what you think about it.

31:30

No, it's not a break.

31:31

Life goes on. We do a lot of things, life goes on. It's not a break. It's a break from the holidays. You're a kid, because you got used to it. You went on vacation every two weeks vacation, sometimes I didn't go on vacation, you go with me. So it's easier for me than for you, so you shouldn't...

31:48

Yeah, but I don't do anything for the holidays.

31:50

You have a pool at home.

31:51

Yeah, that's true. No, girls, I don't do anything for the holidays. It's just that I miss being free. That's just it. I miss being free. I want to fly, I want to escape. You can find it, don't worry. The thing is, now I'm stuck with my studies.

32:06

I wanted to answer something. While we're in the criminal case and what's happening with the judicial control, we have an obligation to stay in our department, not the same as me, to point to the prosecutor twice a month. And that's it after.

32:23

Basically, after it's a classic judicial I have no offense in my court record. So I have a court record that is virgin. I have a legal record that is not legal. I have a legal record that is not legal. I have a legal record that is not legal. I have a legal record in my court record.

32:47

So I have a court record that is virgin. And if I am to be convicted and have a conviction, know girls that as long as I'm a doctor, it will be in 10 years. And in case those who speak do not know, we can erase a court record and even more, so it's on request from the prosecutor, so I informed myself with my lawyer, etc. before embarking on a 10-year study journey. And so we can erase a court record and even more for noble reasons,

33:15

such as becoming a doctor. So there it is, it's a resumption of studies, it's a cause that I care about. And so girls, I don't go head be clear at that time, I hope. It's in 10 years, so we still have time. We can make a request. I think there are a lot of people who can confirm it. But that was the little penalty point and studies that seemed important to me. And studies too.

33:28

It's not at all for reintegration. It's not for reintegration. It's not for reintegration. I think there are a lot of people who can confirm it. But that was the little penalty point and studies that seemed important to me. And studies too, but not at all for re-entry. I don't need to take studies again.

33:53

No, re-entry is when you've been judged.

33:55

No, honey, it's true.

33:57

Yes, it's when you've been judged. It's not a question of re-entry.

34:01

There is no reinsertion. It's a question of will, of your part, of ambition. It's also the fact that I need to learn, as we said, I'm thirsty to learn. I've always dreamed of being a doctor, even if I fail, even if I don't have my year. At least I would have tried, I'm not going to bother you with that anymore. I'm going to be sad, I'm going to it, I tried. I'm a girl who... I live from challenges. I live from...

34:28

Do you get bored when I talk about my case?

34:29

No, no.

34:30

Are you sure?

34:31

No, please. No, please. No, please. I'm someone who lives by stimulation. I need to live things in my life. I can't let my life was monotonous. I was a 100% homemaker and I hated that life.

34:45

I'm going to be very honest with you. I hated that life. At first, I was so happy to have my kids back. It was pure happiness. But then I felt empty. I know that there are a lot of moms who are very good at being a homemaker,

34:57

but I didn't feel complete inside. I felt useful for my kids, but useful for nothing else. I needed to feel useful to society, I needed to feel useful for my brain, to tell myself that I'm learning. In fact, the days were similar, it's always the same, in the morning, the kids, school, and I hated it. So I said to myself, this year I'm taking my studies again,

35:16

I was accepted on Parcoursup, it was a sign. And now I'm motivated, I want to have my year, not for the people, for me. And I hope I'll have it to shut people up. That too. To think what? And to... So that was the little study point. What did you feel with your relatives and everything?

35:31

Did your friends support you in prison?

35:33

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was supported, that's it. We thought about me. My family supported me. My sisters, my brothers. So my mother. I was supported, it doesn't change, it's always the same.

35:47

I have the same people around me.

35:49

You don't change, but you have too many healthy relationships around you.

35:53

Yeah, because there are no problems. It doesn't change, we're fine. My relationships are healthy, so there are no problems. I have no problems with anyone. And you?

36:08

Me? So... I was very supportive. My relationship with my mother, my sisters, it's crazy how it multiplied. It's true that in those moments,

36:20

I realized that writing, letters, it helped me a lot, prison letters, it helped us get away. My old dates before prison, I no longer have any contact with anyone. I don't talk to anyone anymore. Girls, this is also a message I want to get across.

36:35

It's a podcast that will last 72 hours, so I can afford to let go. No, seriously, girls, I don't want to be linked to anyone anymore. I have no more links with anyone on social media. I don't want to be associated with anyone anymore. I think that they don't want to be associated with anything anymore. So I don't want you to comment under my posts to target other people, etc.

36:59

Everyone is at peace. On my side, girls, I have mourned. I have mourned my old relationships, I have mourned my side, I've been mourning my old relationships, my friendships, I've even been mourning some of my family members. It's life, girls. It's so sad to say what I'm saying, it hurts so much.

37:12

But in life, there are times when you're separated from certain people. It's life. In life, there are people you meet and they leave. And there are people who come afterwards. I met Sophie, I met Souk, my friend Souk, who had a very, very bad marriage.

37:29

I feel so guilty about what she went through, to get married and to think that my girlfriend is in a cell, she thinks it's because of her, when it's not at all, it's me who wanted it. So her marriage is connected to my interpellation in her head, etc. And it really hurts my heart for her, because normally marriage is supposed to be...

37:51

It's the alleys of life.

37:52

Yeah, baby, it's the alleys, but hey. So I don't want to be connected to anyone anymore. Girls, peace and chill, everyone lives their life. And that's it. We met Senpai. Yes, you met Senpai.

38:06

Yes.

38:07

No, it's true. But I think we're well surrounded. What do you think, Mavi? No, you're not a father yet. You're worried.

38:15

No, we're all worried every time. But you can't be sure after a year that you're well surrounded. You have to give yourself time. First, you have to focus on yourself and then you'll see what happens next. But you have a problem, you don't like being alone.

38:32

It's a big problem for you. Yeah it's a problem, I don't give my life like I used to. Did you notice that I didn't give my life like I used to? We don't give the same thing as before, we protect ourselves. We protect ourselves, It's so important. I've been in situations where I regretted talking about it. I regretted...

38:50

We won't get back to the same topics every time, but we move on. What do you think about RSA?

38:54

You don't touch RSA? No, unfortunately, I don't... You're laughing, but there are people who really touch RSA.

39:02

I have nothing against people who touch RSA.

39:04

You just say it, just know it very well.

39:05

No, I personally don't touch the RSA, I don't need it. We live day by day. Sometimes the money comes in, sometimes the money doesn't. That's how we do it.

39:16

We make concessions. We no longer have any ties with money, my dear. No, I never had any. Yeah, you never had that. Yeah, you've never had that. I used to think it was too much money. Remember?

39:25

Dare, dare, dare.

39:26

Put yourself in danger. Because I grew up with a mindset like my father.

39:32

I think you're a girl, that's why. You know, men, we know how to do things. Yes, sometimes you have to save this money, sometimes you have to keep it. Sometimes you have to invest it. No, but you have to keep everything. You have to work with money.

39:48

You have to do things with money. You have to make it work.

39:52

It's true that girls...

39:54

We were young when we started.

39:56

We started with young money. At the beginning, a lot of young money. At the beginning, you don't do... No, frankly, I'm not saying anything. But we really did a lot of money in our pockets, because at the beginning you don't... No, I'm not saying anything, but we were more careful when we got big sums.

40:13

I told you, the mafia was already prepared.

40:17

We were careful. You look at our car, we could have bought it 10 times better, but it's not a priority. It's a priority with 3 kids, but before I didn't feel obliged to have a Mercedes, to have this, to have that. I don't care, as long as I have a car and I can drive, I don't care.

40:38

I'm worse than you, I'm even worse than you on that. I know there are a lot of people who will blame me for what I'm going to say, but I'm sorry for me. Provers are those who don't have a tail. I'm sorry. No, there are some who have a tail.

40:52

It depends on the people. There's everything. There's everything. But that means what?

40:58

Tomorrow we buy a Mercedes, but I dress up as Laal. You know, Laal in clothes, I don't care. I never needed to prove that we had money or not, or that we didn't have any. I always wanted us to stay simple. For me, it's not that. For me, money, dressing up, branding, for me, that's your pleasure. I know, my life, you love clothes, but I know you love clothes too.

41:25

I'm happy with my clothes, everyone loves clothes. Everyone thinks differently. I agree with you, everyone loves clothes. I don't need to get a Mercedes to tell people I like my life.

41:38

You don't need to get the latest Mercedes.

41:40

Girls, I live my life very well. We teach our children the good values, the values of money. There is no need, the car is rolling, it's rolling, you eat, you eat. We want to save money with Alan, we want to ensure the future of our children, make investments. It doesn't start with going to buy a bag at LV, even if it's true that at first we bought a bag.

42:01

So we're talking about your story with the CAF. So you're here to claim...

42:07

I'm here to claim my rights at the CAF. I'm going to sit down because it's a very important topic. I'm going to tell you.

42:13

Explain well, so they understand.

42:15

So, dear French people, know that with Alan, in 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, we were French contributors. I don't understand.

42:25

Just wait, I'll cut you off. Why is it such a controversy that you want to touch it?

42:28

Because people don't want me to touch the CAF. Girls, you have to explain yourself. Today, my dolls, I'll explain to you. Beyond the CMG with the custody of my daughter, with Alan, we claimed our rights to the CAF. Because we estimate that we have been taxpayers for years and we think that today we have the right. Our situation means that we have the right,

42:48

in the sense that I am a student, that the money from the networks, the money from monetization, etc. goes to companies, and so we don't have a salary to speak of, so we have rights.

43:01

Moreover, we never claimed our rights, and the CAF never saw that in their life. They never saw it.

43:08

Yes, there must be people like us. Yes, there must be people who never had to declare them.

43:14

Yes, but it's a French right. Any person, even a billionaire, declares this French right. They can touch 4 euros, 3 euros, but they declare. We, the girls, we never... We thought, the CAF, euros, but they declare. We girls, we never have, in fact, we said to ourselves, what, the CAF, we are afraid that they will claim money from us and everything, we will never see them. So suddenly, we have a very delicate

43:30

situation because basically with them, because our children do not exist for them. We just declared pregnancies, but we did not declare births, we, but not the births. We declared the births to the city hall, but not to the CAF. You see? It's not the same. So we never got birth certificates, we never got allocations for our children since they were born. And so, we're worried about saying, today we need it,

43:54

so make a step towards us, France. We need you. Today, the situation is different. The situation is not the same as before. So now, today, I don't want to... I want to rest, study, be at peace, not be stressed, to resume work right away, etc. So it's at that moment that the French aides have to help us.

44:14

That's it! They have to serve us. So that was the little part. I'll keep you posted when I've recovered my due. Our accounts are blocked abroad due to all this judicial case etc So yeah, today I think that if we have the right, we can actually...

44:28

No, actually it's simple, you just want to get your rights back That's all

44:31

Yeah, get my rights back

44:33

Yeah, you get your rights back

44:35

I came to get my rights back

44:37

Yeah, that's it

44:38

Nini Rosset Yeah, you just want to get your rights back, that's it

44:41

I want to get the content, that's it. I want to get the money I gave. So you, Mavi, do you have any plans?

44:46

For now, no. My two companies have been closed. The V Salon has been closed. My first content creation company has been closed. I had some problems. It's hard to manage when you're abroad, when you've made bad choices. I had some problems with the content creation.

45:05

It's hard to manage when you're abroad, when you've made bad choices. I have my responsibilities on it. But what I don't understand is that it's my company, it's my name. I don't understand why the media say the Salon de Poupettes... We call it PU for buzz, PU for click. I never understood, it's me, it's my company, it's mine, I don't understand why they put your name, it's mine, it's my company, it's me who did the accounting exercise, it's me who did everything, basically with the accountant.

45:37

Already, my heart, I think you didn't make any management mistakes, to put it nicely, on some points, yes. Now I think, I'm very honest with you, I think the same, the salon duvet, we know why we liquidated it. We were attacked at the mercy, unfairly, by employees who wanted to take money from us.

45:56

The truth.

45:58

You have to say the terms. It's true that people say you have easy money. So we're going to attack.

46:04

But it's unfair!

46:05

Yes, but life is not fair every day.

46:08

And also, baby, you quit because we were in all the problems, justice and everything.

46:11

Yes, I quit when I was in Dubai, so I had too many problems. I didn't want to go to prison and that it wouldn't be solved. So I decided to quit my companies in France and to come back to France with that. And to start from scratch.

46:29

So we gave our apartment back to Rouen, we gave back the living room, we had no more money to pay, we gave back the apartment in Dubai.

46:37

We managed it. I'm so happy about that. We got everything out all the problems that were bothering us before going to prison, before starting a new life with our kids here in Angers. Unfortunately, there are always problems that come back.

46:56

It's crazy, there are always problems that come back.

46:59

So we deal with them.

47:01

So what do you want for the project? What's next? I want to study. I have nothing this year, except a big project. A big project we have in common. We have a very big project.

47:14

It's not a business or what?

47:16

As a project, I don't know.

47:18

What do you want to launch?

47:20

You have to give strength to the Puppets.

47:22

I know you're going to give strength to my husband. Maybe I'll launch myself on Twitch. I don't know, I'm going to launch myself.

47:26

Do you want to do some streaming?

47:27

Yeah, maybe, why not? I don't know, I'm going to think about it. I'm going to... After all, I like everything that's fashion.

47:33

I can launch a clothing brand.

47:34

That's it.

47:35

Hey, my baby, he's too strong.

47:46

But what is he?

47:47

He's a stylist.

47:48

It's true.

47:49

Yeah, I can create, for example, a brand that I like, a sports brand and everything, so sports clothes and everything, I like that, you know. So, in fact, it depends. I have to find the time, the time, because with the kids and you at school, the activities of the kids, my activities too, it's a bit difficult. It's true that you put a lot of your life aside for us.

48:10

I put all my life aside for you.

48:12

Oh yeah, my life is so cute.

48:14

In reality, my life is put aside.

48:17

The sacrifices you make for your family.

48:19

I let you live, come on, it's not your dream, but basically.

48:21

Oh, I'm going to cry when you say that. I don't like it when you say that.

48:26

You saw that you wanted to enjoy the influence. It's difficult. I can't go back to work tomorrow as a normal person. I'm known everywhere, there are problems on the net because of you. Stop it. I have to do other things.

48:42

I don't have a normal life. At first, it came like that, but then it was a choice, so after the choice you have to accept it. I can do a lot of other things, and I will do them, but the children have to grow up a little bit, because it's difficult. I like to be focused on something,

49:01

and I don't like to be disturbed. So I have to go focused on something and I don't like to be disturbed. So when I have to go get the kids, I have to do this and that, it disturbs me too much and I'm not good.

49:12

In any case, know one thing, I will never give up on your projects. With the dolls, we will give you all the strength you need. If one day you release a brand or a project, we will support you no matter what. I promise. You put your life aside for me and my dream. And now you're contributing to it.

49:28

Yes, I contribute. I participate. We agreed on it.

49:34

Yes.

49:36

Both of us. It's already done.

49:40

So that's a new concept. I hope you liked it. We always try to create things for his community and my community a little. So I hope you liked it, and we'll do more of them anyway. So it's up to you to give it your all.

50:01

Yeah, kisses my love puppets. We hope that this episode allowed you to know a little more and to raise all your questions. This episode will only last 72 hours because we know we've given a lot of ourselves and we want to turn the page on these things.

50:18

and we want to turn the page on these things. I don't want to see these redundant speeches on my YouTube page, on our podcast page.

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