Charlie Kirk's Killer Identified As Tyler Robinson | BREAKING NEWS | PBD Podcast | Ep. 647

I'm gonna send. I'm the one. I'm the one. I'm the one. I'm the one.

I'm the one. I'm the one. I'm the one. I'm the one. It's going to break apart and it's going to be different factions. You think young guys are going to be inspired? And I see young kids over there. Tell him he's having a hard time when the day event happened. He's back at home.

What a weird last 48 hours this has been. We got so many stories to go through specifically. Obviously we're going to spend most of the time today on Charlie Kirk. We got a few other stories that we'll get into. I think it's appropriate for us to discuss the stabbing because we haven't fully gotten into it. That could be a place, especially the way the media reacted to it.

So we have to talk about that. The bombing of Qatar by Israel and what happened. The Van Jones calling the shooter, being mentally ill, and then you have a bunch of other things that's going on here on stories that we have that will get into capitalism, support among Americans drops to 54%, and Sam Altman sits down with Tucker Carlson and Tucker Carlson flat out asks him on how one of his former employees died.

Was it suicide? And he says, are you accusing me of murder? It's a very uncomfortable moment. And then Tucker also had a moment with Mark Cuban about Ukraine saying, what do you think we should do with Ukraine? I think we should have families from, well, you haven't sent any money.

Why should we? Valid question. We'll play that clip. And if you at all at this point are feeling angry and you relate to guys like Vinny, when we call Vinny or Tom calls Vinny the angry patriot and that stuck since that day until today, and you're in that community as well, you may want to go to VTMerch.com and place

an order on angry patriot. We're going to put the link below Rob on the angry patriot, the hats, the shirts, there's a bunch of gear there for people to understand what is really going on. These emotions are real. People are really experiencing many different emotions today. We have people that are in one moment you're feeling good, next moment you're like, wait

a minute, what just happened? Next moment back to normal again. Everyone's in the middle of it. I call this top four worst assassinations we've had in the last 70 years. You've got John F. Kennedy at the top and you don't want to rank situations like this but he was a president. And you have RFK, his brother, second, and then you have MLK and then you have Charlie

Kirk. To me Charlie Kirk is the equivalent of MLK. So when D.L. Hughley says, he's not even a politician, neither was MLK, but he was a figure that we will forever remember. And just like you'll see a lot of young folks for many years, I always had a poster or a

painting of Martin Luther King in my offices, you're going to see officers because he impacted a lot of young people's lives. So let's get into minutes ago saying that the the shooter his father encouraged him to go turn

himself in. Here's President Trump. To a US Marshal who was fantastic by the way and the person was involved with law enforcement but was a person of faith, a minister, and brought him to a U.S. marshal who was fantastic. And the father convinced the son, this is it. And again, I'm always subject to be corrected. But I'm just giving you based on what I'm hearing, they'll give you a much more active.

I just heard about it five minutes before I walked in. As I'm walking in they said Looking real good. They have the person that they wanted so You have breaking news don't you?

Guy we got him and apparently it's not him right so now they're saying they have him you heard I know the whole story, but Rob, go ahead and play this clip. Shoot me! Shoot me! Was that you?

We don't know if it's him or not.

Who would say shoot me?

Who would say that?

Who would say shoot me?

A troubled guy who is there to be part of a counter protest. It seems like a troubled guy.

So you have that going on. You had JD Vance yesterday when they are moving his casket. JD Vance is there taking him on Air Force Two. Go ahead, Rob. Okay. President Trump speaks with Charlie Kirk's wife, Rob, I think you have a clip on that as well, saying how totally devastated she is. Can you imagine what Erica's going through right now with two kids for the rest of their Lives hey, who's your father?

Charlie Kirk my dad's no longer here. Why? You're gonna have to try to explain that to yourself on why that took place I can only imagine the pain she is going through our prayers are With her and her family, but at the same time while this is going on, you see the opposing side. Here's what some had to say on the courage to speak up and will never be silenced. RFK Jr., once again a bullet has silenced the most eloquent truth teller of an era.

My dear friend Charlie Kirk, my dear friend Charlie, we pray for Erica and the children. Charlie is already in paradise with the angel. Charlie Kirk was murdered for speaking the truth and defending freedom. Millet, the world has lost an incredible human being. President Trump, the great and even legendary Charlie Kirk is dead. In our lifetime and this continues going on.

By the way, on the opposing side, people may be on on the other side here's what Pritzker had to say president's rhetoric often foments violence the Democratic senator Murph violence left has done that to Joe Biden there's no place in our country for this

can play this clip Rob what I do know for sure is that, you know, Charlie was someone who once said Minneapolis police, I think he called him a scumbag, right? Have no regard downplay saying Juneteenth should never exist. And I think, you know, there are a lot of people who are out there talking about him just wanting to have a civil deal. There's nothing more f'd up than to completely pretend that his words and actions have not been recorded and in existence for the last decade or so and and

and also feel very uneasy about america here to people who are not born in america who fundamentally want to change america who he is a no no no no no no we want to reinvent america what it is today

the disrespect that they can even say acknowledge that a man was assassinated and immediately they go to well he said this he said this almost like he had it coming only in America two people that we brought in from another side of the world from

Somalia and I believe the UK I would say to come in and criticize the foundation

of America only in America yeah and by the way Vinny your thoughts when you hear it a lot of more how do you process it man you want to talk about what makes of America only in America. Yeah, and by the way, Vinny, your thoughts when you hear Elhanan Moore, how do you process it? Man, you want to talk about what makes me be an angry patriot? It's because of stuff like that. The the the tone deaf, like in a moment where somebody was literally

shot, murdered, assassinated. And I love how with the with the young vote, with what he was doing in colleges. Give me a break and I love that you pointed it out this country's freaking the greatest country in the history of the world and we still have to let people like this say what they're gonna say no no consequences just speak your mind but the the lack of empathy the laugh of caring that well the guy was shot in the neck and bled

out with his wife and his children in the area okay and then the new Charlie okay what would he do first of all first and foremost he fought for his faith for Jesus Christ unapologetic he didn't water it down because of freaking culture he brought the Bible into politics and he started waking up to youth he went hard on being a pro-life, get shot in the freaking neck and then you have losers like this Il Ilhan Omar, who for

America to try to save it, this is the other side that we always talk about. The people that hate this place, they want to destroy it. And I'm sorry, I'm sorry. As much as I call these people evil and all this stuff, they're not going to win. They're not going to win because God's light is too bright, period.

I agree. Tom, your thoughts? So, well, as I've said, and it bothers me, at these moments, because you have three types of liberals that are out there right now. Those who does not, she has such a voting block there, she does not have to worry about re-election, she only has to worry about criticism. And so she's going to go out and go hard on this as she did. Then you have the liberals that are posturing a bit and being very careful, because they know it's an extremely dangerous situation.

If they say something, they wave the flag and they let you know how they feel, but they're being super careful about it. And then the last group is ones that are hiding or not saying anything. But that's the liberals.

But the price of free speech is free speech. And this is what the founding fathers didn't want the government to suppress one way or the other but it can anger you and there can be consequences big consequences I want to ask you a question Tom I want to ask you a question. This is also a person that chose the incestuous path to citizenship. Well yesterday this was taking place.

You know, TMZ comes out and everybody around the world finds out when the phone alerts, Charlie Kirk is dead. Your phone is blown up. No matter where you are, your phone is blown up with text messages saying Charlie Kirk is dead. This is Harvey, a place that's known for having cameras everywhere.

That's what you're known for. You're talking live all the time, right? That's what TMZ is known for. You have cameras everywhere. That's your business model.

That's how you blew up.

I was with you. In every corner of every room, they capture every reaction.

You remember that. Yep. There's cameras everywhere. So perfect, if you're telling me there's cameras everywhere and then this is how they react, employees of TMZ, when the announcement is made that Charlie Kirk has died and then listen to his explanation afterwards.

Go ahead, Rob. That's the announcement, Goat. Is this the one Pat? The one from Instagram. Play that one because I want people to see 10,000. They don't know yet. An image of this guy. There's just live streaming.

Possibly in the next 20 minutes.

Watch this.

You'll hear it.

The news conference is scheduled for 3 o'clock in Utah time, which is 2 o'clock Pacific, 5 o'clock Pacific five o'clock Eastern

Janet

Go the announcement is made

Be quiet the Fox yeah somebody go back

Look Trump just posted that Charlie Kirk is dead Yeah, you're right pay. He went to the back. Do you want to shut the hell? Oh yeah? Yeah, so now watch now. What did Trump say okay forget about this Rob now go to So the second So then what do they do? Can you go on chat you BT?

Can you tell me exactly at this time that there was another crisis that took place in California for us to say that we were Reacting to a did so they make the argument later on do you have the video of them saying what they were reacting to?

We were live streaming all day during this tragedy. When something happened in our office, as we were reporting the assassination of Charlie Kirk here, who were watching a car chase and they were laughing, they were clapping, and you could hear it out here. And we want to make a couple of things clear. One is that I know these people and they were not laughing, they were not reacting that way about Charlie Kruke's assassination. they were not reacting that way about Charlie Kirk's

Assassination yeah, they were not they would not work here all right if they did and that being said

We acknowledged that it was horrible timing and for that we are sorry watching the stream You may have felt that that's what the laughter was about we assure you it was when the laughter is cheering dude But it was horrible timing and by the way I get it to them

Do you believe them?

Wait a minute. Wait a minute. So they're saying a car chase. Okay, this is the car chase Let us just show you and you tell me if you believe them. Go ahead Rob. Let's find it Tell me if this is the kind of a car chase that you would celebrate Yeah, and scream tell me if it's that euphoric

and we saw that

Well, I wanted to let you know that President Trump has said Charlie Kirk has died So that is the breaking news that we are like to have with ABC News He was shot in Utah at a college there. We've been talking about that throughout the afternoon here

Okay, so he's not lying. They are watching a car chase and they are reacting to a car chase because the announcer on the car chase said that Charlie Kirk is dead. Thank you. So Harvey is essentially in his mind while we're not lying. Go, go, go right there.

Watch what the announcer said. Here's the car chase that they're talking about Temple City go ahead The president Trump has said Charlie Kirk has died so that is that's what the reacting is that we are like

That's not the car to have with ABC News so he was shot

So they're watching the car chase the announcer announces Charlie Kirk's dead, and it seems like in all likelihood That's when they cheer you tell me there's one nothing exciting Well, that's second to court. This isn't OJ Simpson in the way exactly That I'm sorry that the first of all Disgusting of who they are what TMZ like somebody an ex-employee It's claims these are claims all over that I saw an ex that the the newsroom was filled with hateful, angry, progressive

energy and he said it would without question laugh at Charlie Kirk getting shot. To just tell the truth, you know what guys? We're freaking leftist, we're progressive, you know what? Charlie is a voice that says stuff that we don't like. We are happy that he was shot in the freaking neck in front of his family. I don't know if it's the entire organization.

Let me tell you. No, I'm saying what this guy's saying, it's filled with hateful and angry progressives. And I believe that exists, that those types of people are in there. This is the question I want to ask all of you guys. That's his personality. Do you believe the guy to the right, he's happy Charlie Kirk is dead?

I don't think they're happy Charlie Kirk is dead. The question I want to ask you is the following. Here's the question I want to ask you, okay? You said the price of freedom of speech is freedom of speech. That's right. Okay, fair. We're not happy by the way those employees reacted.

They're celebrating. These guys are not telling the truth. Harvey, respectfully, you're not telling the truth. Harvey, respectfully, you're not telling the truth. You're telling the truth to what the announcer on the car chase said, not the actual car chase. There was nothing exciting happening at the same exact second, the same exact minute to have that kind of a euphoric reaction.

That's absolutely embarrassing. If you have all the cameras all over the place, that's your business model. Show the camera footage. You have it. What were they reacting to you have the camera footage in the back? Everywhere in that facility has cameras number two you find us somebody is celebrating that what should happen to those people well first of all that

behaving his views And you don't like it Omar going with a a reporter expressing her views And we don't like it and there's consequences you could get unelected There's a lot of things that could happen. That is despicable behavior and that kind of thing You're employed by somebody and there are standards of behavior There is freedom of speech, you know for you and I think you're a horrible

Horrible leader and guess what opinion that's pretty despicable behavior and that's a despicable opinion So guess what you're fired. You don't know what should happen here I think he should do it because I think there's an irony here my take on this There's an irony Harvey has made his career on Busting celebrities that lie when they're arrested and then this video that video this person person and then they bust them they go no no No great. Here's what really happened right and now Harvey's in the middle of it right there

People in front of the spotlight and would say that's not what happened the part. He got you we paid an informant We got this and so this is he is not taking a leadership position the problem to me here is

The way he handled it. That's the only problem. I have because this is how MSNBC handled it. We're not ones that wakes up in the morning saying MSNBC makes all the right decisions in the world with the values and principles they stand for.

He's been one of the most divisive, especially divisive younger figures in this, who is constantly sort of pushing this sort of hate speech or sort of aimed at certain groups. And I always go back to hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful

actions.

What happened at MSNBC afterwards? What did they do to that guy? He got fired. So you can love or hate MSNBC. What did MSNBC say? MSNBC fires Matthew Dowd after Charlie Crook's shooting comments report say, TMZ, Harvey,

you have to make this good. I'm one that actually watched some of the stuff that you've done over the years and it's actually good. For you to defend and lie about what they reacted to, you lost so much credibility with me. So much credibility with me for you to behave that way.

Is that what the company represents? If you fully claim your lady in the back that was screaming or the employees that were screaming, show the videos. I want to see them. I want to see the videos of what happened in the back. But you're seeing some of this stuff.

Now here's the challenge. This obviously raises your temperature. This obviously upsets you. This obviously upsets you. This obviously gets you to say, you've got to be kidding me. Don Lemon, Rob, is out there and he's doing his, what is this? Man on the Street stuff.

He goes up to a guy. There's two of them, Rob. The one I want you to pull up is, do you know which one I'm talking about, Rob? I'm looking for it. See if you can find it Down on a deal. You just had to go back. No go back go back. It's the one on the one right there I was shorts go for it. Yeah, I do. What do you think of what happened to him? You know, sometimes revenge the dish best or cold I hate

To celebrate someone's death

But when you talk about guns rights and you talk about how much the Second Amendment matters to you and impacts you, like, what do you expect?

Wow.

Sympathies to his family, but this is why we need gun control.

One of my friends said on social media he died in a-

Go to the other Don Lemon clip. And then, Don, you wonder why people react like this sometimes when they see you.

The guy's wearing a cross.

How you doing, sir? Can we talk to you? Where you from? You live in New York. Are you Don Lemon? You're a fucking moron. Thank you. So are you? Except you've never heard anything I've had to say and I've had a bunch of I'm glad you watch me No, I don't why but you just get clipped everywhere. I know but why don't you, you said you don't watch me but you know who I am and I get clipped. Before I realized that CNN and MSNBC were full of shit, every once in a while I'd see you cooking. What do you watch? I watch everything.

But about what? Be specific. What's everything? Everything. Are they in Canada? Are they in Canada right there? Where is he? Because that guy has an English accent but from the looks of it I don't even know if he's in the United States. Is he in New York? New York City buddy. Well wherever it is that's such a freaking great moment and first of all Don Lemon you want to talk about a fall from grace this guy was one of the top CNN anchors and your ass is in the street putting a mic in people's faces and he's getting handled and it makes me so freaking happy and Pat it's not I know we're gonna get into it it's not just that the majority of the people that I've seen out there on the left from TMZ to that to him to that guy to Charlie was was shot absolutely not it's everywhere it's

everywhere my cousin's wife was posting something about the second amendment and she put yes like all yes that he was shot and killed these are people that are in my family okay and? Are you kidding me? I swear to you, and I, Pat, because I'm trying, yes I'm the angry patron. On Instagram? On Instagram, my brother and them sent me the story.

I'm going to show it to you.

Dagulat.

You have no idea. This is my first cousin's wife. Alright? Now, they are captured, captured by the devil. And I'm not being facetious, okay? And I've said this multiple times about Ephesians chapter six, verse 12. It's not flesh and blood, it's principalities, it's evil.

And these people have been captured. Was shot for speaking, just speaking. You know what I mean? Guess what? If you don't like what he's saying, go in there and battle him.

Go in there and battle him go in there and debate him They're left they have nothing they have to silence us with death They have to shoot us because they can't don't even know that they're captured Tommy They don't know that they're I don't want to say possessed How can you how can you walk around and do that?

And I'm gonna show you once Tom says this thing what these people are about yeah

The greatest trick the devil pulled off is convincing people he doesn't exist. You know, the evil creeps in on little cat feet. You know, the fog creeps in on little cat feet. I think it was Walt Whitman talking about San Francisco. But guess what? Evil also creeps in that way. It's a little here. It's a little there. And all of a sudden, your worldview—

and that's my concern— the worldview they have is on a foundation of deep evil flaw. It's deep flaws that they don't see as evil. And they're talking about the other side. And by the way, this goes back to activism in America. Activism in America in the 1960s, you had this horrible war, the Vietnam War,

that was, people are being drafted for a terrible war, and people lost trust in the government. But guess what also happened there? Activism. That provided the fertile footing. Hey, accuse the other side of what you're doing.

And when, Vinny, when you do that, you appear to have the moral high ground. And then when you have the media, all but one leg of the media you have that are willing to propagate that, then you have this whole generation that says, I guess this is right, I guess I am a victim, I guess this is the problem, I guess it's here. Divisiveness, and they're being led through it.

It got worse under Barack Obama's administration, but I don't blame him for starting it, but he poured more gas on it, and Pelosi poured more gas on it. And they say, well, and then today they want to say, oh, well, listen to the divisive comments of Donald Trump. I don't agree with everything you said.

And I think presidential leaders have an opportunity to turn down the heat. But to your point, people that have a flawed worldview

platform end up downstream in the lake of hate. Today, so I'm in Miami and I'm having a conversation with these three girls that are in town from DC. And I said, Oh, DC, it turns out they work for John Fetterman, Democrat. It's interesting to see his positions. She goes, well, yeah, I'm actually from West Virginia. I go, Joe Manchin, that's my guy. We started having this conversation. I said, you know, I used to be more of a Democrat. And then I saw how insane the Democratic Party became and I could no

longer support that and I'm one of the staunch advocates of the MAGA movement at this point, America First, because it's just common sense. She goes, how could you say something like that? MAGA are the extremists. I go, really? If I showed you data that would disprove your argument, would you believe me? She goes depends where the data is from I go Well, you know pew Quinnipiac. These are pretty reputable sources here. I Go, where do you think Republicans have moved? Where do you think of Democrats? She goes Republicans maggot? They're over here now

Democrats maybe they're gonna left I go. It's exact. I'll bekins have moved a little bit further to the right in that article Rob Republicans have moved over a little further to the right by the way. This is from 2017 it has gone even further Democrats have gone so far to the left their party is completely Unrecognizable so you have an average person. This is the back point of a point I said young men in high school and in college are becoming way more conservative because point of view out there there's only one party that has become completely extreme and as the party that has no idea the difference

between a man and a woman is the party that has open borders it is the party of chaos. Adam great point and if you don't mind I have to it's when you take out God okay and let's be real Charlie was the number his biggest thing was God in Jesus Christ okay and there's no in the middle guys there's no more I'm kind of on the fence I hate Jesus no either you're here and you believe yesterday how many people they mean you talk to what I'm talking

to people and some of them were kind of leaning the majority is they're pro abortion they're celebrating assassination, okay? If you're a kid, they will happily give hormones and all that crap to mess up with their freaking bodies to make money. They're pro-open border, they're weaponizing the Department of Justice. They don't give a sh- I don't- give me something. Please give me something that these people are about.

And once you take out God, they've been fighting for this whole time to take out God and then when somebody gets murdered they're celebrating it so which party is that which side which side if the devil came right now and had to pick

a Republican or Democrat which one would it be they don't have an anchor they

don't have a foundation it's a they don't have a worldview that is have that they are looking for victims victims become voting blocks voting blocks become elections elections become power that is the bottom line of it and

everything... This is what they're saying the shooter is. The shooter they're saying is a guy named Tyler Robinson, 22 years old, just a few minutes ago. That's the face. That's the killer. That's the shooter. Apparently the pastor and the father were able to persuade him to go in if you see the clip Rob, there's a couple things while he's on the rooftop after he shoots

He is Allegedly right. This is the guy well allegedly is what they're saying, but this is the White House giving us the info So while he's up there if you see him all the way up top go to play that clip Rob

I'm laying down So there's somebody on the roof right there there, if you see him all the way up top, go ahead and play that clip, Rob.

By the way, while that's happening, there's another clip of him while he's trying to jump off the roof of him limping, having a hard time walking. And obviously at this point for me, yeah, that's him right there. That's apparently the shooter. But do you have the other clip, Rob, of him that Him that jumps off watch that's TMZ. It's so Do you have the one of him jumping off the fence?

And he hurts himself with the leg when he tries to jump off the top of the rooftop. I don't know Yeah, if you can find that and this is leading to one video that I found which is kind of weird So at this point if you've seen the clips and to right there there he is what an idiot no love here boom his jacket where's the gun and then he probably left in this watch it was wrapped in a towel allegedly and then look at this gun was found in the woods with a footprint good I hope you broke

his ankle and he's limping now. Good.

Good for you.

Is this what we're telling? No, no. No. His father and a minister apparently influenced him. Can you pull up the story?

Gotcha.

So the father is not a minister. Read in to see what persuaded him. I think we have a high degree. Certainly go a little bit lower, Rob, if you could. Go a little bit lower because we saw this clip. Officials involved in investigation to shooting co-founder. Can you go to see if Kash Patel has tweeted anything out yet? Has Kash tweeted anything out yet?

There's another clip of the gentleman that was standing behind Charlie Kerr. I gave you with the one. That's the one right there. Yes, Watch this So what is watch the man in the back with the hand signals? Actually, no, not this clip Rob. It's the one that says What it means it's this yeah, I just sent you this one Rob if you can play this one here this just watch this

Okay, and again We're not gonna be playing the clip of how he got shot, the blood. If you've seen it, you've seen it. And if you're like, yeah, I'm going to show it to everybody around you, you know, man in the back with the phone, watch him very closely.

Are a little bit, these two men need to really be looked into.

Sniper.

Some of the sniper looking signals, especially from the, especially coming from the guy in the white and the guy in the black.

Okay, touch in the side of the face of the military context, often rubbing the cheeks, a hand signal to indicate, go back, Rob, let me read that whole thing. Indicate, go back, Rob. It's explaining.

A single hand level or some form of body, put the palm down or moving in horizontal or perpendicular means commence firing. Slowly, it means to decrease the rate of fire. Okay, keep it going.

Interesting.

What's the next thing? The left arm crossing the torso of the military hand, signal to indicate imminent danger. The torso of the military hand, depending on the context of the military, the most common interpretation of imminent danger, signal rest. Crossing the hand of the shooter to take the shot.

That's one.

Let's just say.

Yeah, let's just say. But the other thing could be this guys let me tell you the guy in the black is also

Because they're speaking to each other the entire time see these are all signals

So this is what by the way, it happens literally a second after this. So so don't know so to me What are the chance because it's not hard to investigate who those two people are the guy in the white the guy in the black. We have to find out and have the conversations with them. But to me, the question I got is maybe they found out someone's up top. It could either be that hey, there's danger and they don't want to overreact and they're talking to one another. Can somebody go see what's going on over there?

But that doesn't make sense because nobody moved in that direction. In an instance like that, if you see any kind of threat, the job of your protection, you don't tell them what to do. Their job is to jump and take you out because they're not going to, even if there's a slight chance of risk, they have to take you offside to protect you. That's what they're going to be doing.

You're not going to be waiting on me. You're going to be like, we got to roll. Notice a threat. You jump on Charlie. I don't think that's what it is. I'm just trying to speculate. I think to me, it gives me more of a vibe of 80-20 dirtiness than it does for something that we're doing to protect.

You're saying that based on your probability, you're giving it an inside job indication.

Let me tell you, if I'm running the FBI, I want to talk to that guy myself. Hell yeah. I don't want my guys to talk to him. I want to talk to him. I want to talk to those guys. And it could be as simple of an answer that they'll explain and remember.

And signals? I don't know. And can I say one thing too, Pat? Yeah. We have to understand, whoever this suspect is, whoever Tyler is, whatever his background is, and me and Mike were talking about this earlier, you have to understand, whatever this plan was, whatever this operation was, they had to know, number one, Charlie was going to be there. They had to know the schedule, number one. Number two, you have to know where he was gonna be and that advantage point shooting from high to low it's

like shooting fish in a barrel that's the easiest way so this kid who I highly doubt had all this information and all this tactical knowledge to find out Adam the timing where what's up my this is a big campus how'd you know they were gonna be right there of a wide open area and this is where I think like you underestimated the enemy you underestimated that Charlie Amadu and because of all these older videos you know how many situations where I've seen where Charlie's just

sitting there and just all open rooftops to these people and then this is what happens. So there's I agree with you Pat there's a bunch of layers to get to this how if they leaked information if they they knew, same thing with Butler. Same thing with Butler. You have the ex-president who's trying to be the president again out there in the open and then all secret service.

The only thing that happened was Kim Chito got fired. That's it. Everybody else got a slap on the wrist. Even if he was, God forbid, murdered and assassinated, that's all they would have said. Hey, we didn't do our job right there's a question though time you said something very interesting before we went live and I think it's important for you to share with them so watch the

system we have the shooter you take him in here's who he is because who do you think needs the temperature to be lowered more than then what do you walk

him through the system of what happens if this doesn't happen on the roof we don't even know if he was the real shooter and not press conference but when they were talking about he's arrested he's here this is what's going on you had a federal agent from the back of the room calling forward interrupting and clarifying the organization that Oswald was allegedly a part of so we can go back and see so organization that Oswald was allegedly a part of. So we can go back and see so much about Oswald, you know,

you know, Patsy, trained by the CIA, working with the CIA. You see it all now and the stuff that's come out. We don't have to say allegedly anymore because we have so much of the stuff there. And we're not Oliver Stone making a conspiracy movie. There are so many things that suddenly are there. So I want to see what happens to this guy.

And if he was identified, trained, and used by the feds, then who called the hit on a future president of the United States that had the ability through his organization and his voice to move elections? Who doesn't want those elections moved? The core establishment? Tim McVeigh? You know we got to learn a lot about him. A lot about him. Correct. We learned a lot about him and there was a lot of things that got

uncovered. Now we're living in a whole church but I like Pat I want to see what happens with this guy. Does he hang himself in prison? That would never happen to a suspect of a wide-ranging crime. Oh, oh, oh wait So what happens to him? Where do we go? And what do we see or is this something odd happens and it's quickly cleaned up like crooks

Yeah, I mean, you know when I was on Jesse couple nights ago. I said look Respectfully, we don't even know anything about the president Trump shooter. What do we know about it?

So we have to kind of start getting answers. We're not getting answers. I Want answers about kovat if China released?

that virus Intentionally and unintentionally do we know that yet? We don't That opens it up for Daryl Kirk, the MLK of the conservative youth movement today. He is the equivalent of MLK. You can say whatever. Some could even say he's bigger than MLK because of social media, because of what's going on

with social media and how messages go viral. He is probably more famous today with his impact worldwide than MLK was in America because MLK wasn't having his clips going viral. Charlie's more famous than MLK was at his peak when he passed away. This is not a competitive message. They're at the same level, the impact.

So we have to find out what happens to this guy. We have to find out what the motive behind it was because why? Okay, worst case, I pray for this not to happen. All of a sudden, one by one by one, on March 12th of 2020, I land at Beverly Hills Hilton. I'm with my family. I'm going to take them to Universal.

One by one, board members start canceling the meeting. Why? Because of COVID. Up until that point, I didn't know how serious it was. And then all of a sudden, the whole thing shut down. Then it became non-essential, essential, no NBA, no NHL, all the parks, all the this,

all the that. The world changed, right? What happens if all of a sudden, in the next seven days, two weeks, the equivalent of an AOC on the opposing side is taken out. What do you think happens? Martial law? Hey, Vinny, where are you?

Well, guys, I can't do anything. We're doing a podcast from the house. How's your internet at your house? I can't get out. They're not letting me get out. It's curfew.

For what does America look like? Who would want that? Who? What happened with protesting and riots under Trump first time around? How bad were they? Do you remember the BLM riots?

You don't think they want that again? You don't think they're smart enough and divisive enough to find different methods? I don't know. But the way I'm going to next and what I want to talk about next before we transition to a couple of the other stories because there's so much to be learned about things that's going on here with charl-culation everything is allegedly who is behind it if this is just a kid this is the guy that charlie kirk was debating there's a clip of a guy that charlie oh right there that's the guy right there rob right there can you zoom into that one so so it

doesn't look like him no but some are saying this could be the guy. Go ahead.

Hey, this guy just lies.

Hey, no, no, no, no.

He's a liar.

So, okay.

He can debate.

He just lies.

Okay, so let's just calm down a little bit.

So watch the pause.

Not about the other people. Robinson if you go to Tyler Robinson good point okay, is it the same guy the Tyler Robinson picture Okay, we don't know if it's the same guy some are saying yes some are saying no, but to me It's the following if it's just a guy Who got up was able to shoot from 200 yards away, and then he gets him He's dead Gets off the rooftop

Walks out and disappears like Kaiser Sosa Is it just a guy that was upset Is it just a leftist that hates Charlie Was it a motive Was it funded by some Allegedly he wrote

The words on the bullet casing Trans and Fascism Allegedly he wrote the words on the bullet casing trans and yeah, which

Fascism, I think which I think which and we were discussing let's be careful. It was a

erroneous report Rob if you can help us so I want to Make sure that we don't like repeat something that this morning. You know what I mean Pat got already

Yeah, set aside. I think I'd love the question because it's like who's going to benefit, who's gaining from this? Who's gaining? Because Charlie's voice was so impactful and guess what? To me, this is my opinion, they assassinated. That's where my mind, where I was at, Pat. But if you think about it, MKUltra, in the 70s, they focused on mind control experiments.

I'm not making this up. This isn't some crazy, kooky idea that I'm coming up with. They use LSD, they grab younger people like this and they brainwash them into becoming assassins. Shooting and then all of a sudden they snap out of it. They don't know what they are.

They don't know what the hell is going on. They're completely lost. You know what I mean? Just like when, Tom, who's the guy? It's the whole Jason Bourne depiction. Exactly, but the thing is-

That's a depiction, that's a movie, that's Hollywood, but it comes from apparently the playbook of creating an intelligence asset.

Exactly. So, and here's the thing. Who would benefit from this type of action? Who would benefit from not only killing one of the leading voices, that's like pushing the youth that's making I remember me and Adam just showed me a video in the car I don't know if you could send it to Rob it's a conversation that he had with the trans girl that became a guy and he was such a an awesome conversation where he's like you find the truth and

somebody talks you and find out what's going on in your head and not just pumping drugs into your body and changing you it's it's and I hope it doesn't come to that but we had this conversation yesterday. Isn't it weird though that the other side never gets no assassinations? They walk out in public.

You see AOC, Pat, and all these people, because in my opinion, that's their side. Their side isn't going to do anything to them. It's always us. It's always the voices that are preaching about love, about peace, about bringing us together.

All of them, all of them, all of them from the history get shot or murdered.

George Floyd is suddenly, not to interrupt you, but to add to what you're saying with emphasis, and George Floyd is depicted as an assassination. A man with a rap sheet, a man that was in the middle of committing another crime and had enough drugs in a system to throw a Hollywood birthday party you've got no that's right that's in the and the level of drugs that were there and yet yet he's a symbol and he's

assassinated really I just I want to touch on one thing because you guys have motion meant to this I firmly believe they just assassinated a future president of the United States and I'm not downplaying that oh Talk about having a bench. Oh who's on the left who's on the right? You know what I am. I'm sad man. I'm sad for the movement for America You know that day was super emotional Vinny's the one right as Tom sitting with Dylan Patrick's son

Jennifer's a couple seats over morals in front of in front of me, Tom's right there, Vinny says, Charlie just got shot, and runs off. I said, what? I'm with Dylan, Tony's, we're front row Tony, I'm focused on Tony. And Tony gives a speech and he says,

you know the number one quality of a leader? The number one quality of a leader is that they have influence. Don't downplay the fact that people are influencers. Charlie had influence. He was an influencer. You influence people's thoughts.

You've influenced people's motions. You've influenced people's actions, good and bad. I'm there with Dylan. We're having a great time and the whole time I'm holding back my emotions knowing that Charlie Kirk just got shot and then text after text after text, this is what's going on.

And then here's what happened. Pat took the stage, super emotional. Pat cried. Vinny's crying, I see it in Vinny's eyes. Vinny's, he wears his heart on his sleeve. Tom's crying, Rob is crying.

I'm the only person that didn't cry. I got back to my room that night. I've only cried three times in the last five years, I would say. The day that my girlfriend got cancer, the song from Green Day, you know,

another turning point of folks to... One of the best humans I've ever met. I don't know anything bad about him, and the fact that people on the left are mocking him and cheering for his death just shows how sick and twisted some people in America have become. It's just sad to me.

You hit him even later when it sinks in and reality sinks in and you never know when that's going to happen to you. But it is a sad situation, not just for you, many others as well. As you're going through this, you're wondering who would want to see something like this happen. One of the simplest things that you've got to be thinking about is a leader, your job

of a leader is to try to control the temperature of a nation, of a company, of a family. You know, you're in the house, you're kids, blah, blah, blah, and they're fighting, bring it down. Right? It's a little bit here, you bring it up. You control the temperature.

Last week, this Ukrainian girl, OK, is on the subway. And all of a sudden, there's two clips. Rob, if you want to go through this and if you have the Van Jones clip and if you know which ones I'm talking about, first play the clip of her not getting stabbed until when she's first getting moved by the guy that's just kind of shaking her up a little bit at first. So Trump wants death penalty for the ... Okay?

That's the girl. That's the killer right behind her. Okay? That's the girl. That's the killer right behind her. Savage slit on a Charlotte train by a black repeat offender, DeCarlos Brown, free on bill from Democrat soft crime insanity. This is a fellow on Twitter writing this.

That's the story right there. Trump comes out and says he wants death penalty for him. Van Jones is out there saying things. This right here, this clip, go for it.

It's not about cashless bail or no cashless bail. Hurt people hurt people. What happened was horrible. But it becomes an opportunity for people to jump on van wagons. And then for someone like Charlie Kirk, he should be ashamed of himself.

No one mentioned the word ray one wait. He should be embarrassed for himself van Buddy God. Here's a question I want to send something Rob to you and I want you to I want you to show this year because a guy sent this to me and Said how different would it have been if this is the case Rob? Let me send this to you, and then if you can put it up, if this was the story.

What would America look like if this was the story, Rob? If you don't mind, I'm going to air drop it to you, Rob, if you can show it to everyone here. Imagine if this was the case. Take that situation and make it this. How different would America have been today?

What would the streets have looked like today? What would have been the story? Take all the seats and change Irina and that's the case. Oh my God. What would America be doing?

What a different picture. They'd burn this thing down.

What would America be doing? A white guy, standing, sitting to her right, doing nothing. How would you react to this? What would you be saying? Would you be saying, why didn't one of them jump in and save her? Would that be, is that what you'd be saying?

This is why America has a white crime problem. What would you be saying? So to me, I'm really trying to speculate because I got a couple of weird calls yesterday from people that are involved directly with this and they're all trying to find out what happened and some of them are trying to find out how to prevent future ones from happening. So what do you do here?

Somebody watched this exchange and said, you know what? I'm going to go take Charlie out Charlie and I'm gonna be the hero. Is that what it was? What was it that simple of a reaction to what happened with? you know with Irina Tom, what are your thoughts? I know you have some opinions on this story. Well first of all

You know, there's a lot said he was a communist, but he said it's part of his radical 1990s and he is pulling the strings there using his perch in media and he doesn't even know

Tom hang on one second the press conference right now with the shooters taking place right

now left the rifle in a towel the messages also refer to engraving bullets and a mention of a scope and the rifle being unique. Messages from the contact Tyler also mentioned that he had relation as well as to the the writing on those casings those those those bullet casings and I believe we have that as well and I will share that with you now.

Oh, they have that.

So the area north of Campus Drive Road where the suspect crossed over, you saw some of that in the video that we released last night, consists of a grassy area with trees on the edge of the UVU campus. Investigators discovered a bolt-action rifle wrapped in a dark-colored towel, a 6-caliber bolt-action rifle wrapped in a dark colored towel a six-caliber bolt-action rifle the rifle had a scope mounted on top of it investigators noted inscriptions that had been engraved on casings found with the rifle inscriptions on a fired casing read notices bulges capital O W O what's this question mark point catch exclamation point up

arrow symbol right arrow Wow and symbol and three down arrow symbols a second unfired casing read Oh Bella Ciao Bella Ciao Bella Ciao Ciao and a third unfired casing read, if you read this, you are gay, LMAO. We are indebted to law enforcement across the state who's worked seamlessly together, local law enforcement, state law enforcement, and our federal partners with the Federal Bureau of Investigation. We're grateful for everyone.

I want to thank the public who has been so engaged, reviewing videos, helping us with sending in tips, and helping us get to this point. I want to thank the family members of Tyler Robinson who did the right thing in this case, and were able to bring him to law enforcement as well. I especially want to thank the

family of Charlie Kirk. Erica, Charlie's parents, his children. I want us to be thinking of them as we bring justice in this case. They will be involved in that justice. We will be working very closely with them as we move through this process as well. This is a very sad day for, again, for our

country, a terrible day for the state of Utah, but I'm grateful that at this moment we have it.

Thank you, Governor. This is what happens when you let good cops be cops. The FBI and our partners are proud to say we need to operate in this space to bring this sort of justice at this sort of speed. In 33 hours we have made historic progress for Charlie. It's been incredibly incredible these last few days. Our partnership will endure.

Your state and local police are oppressive in the hardest of times. In a case like this, cannot be solved, cannot be brought. We will play that role, and we will lead out for the federal government. Governor Cox, we are so grateful for your state partnership that led out on this investigation. A little bit of the police at 1239 and secured the scene. The FBI, special technicians, hostage rescue teams,

we also utilize these assets to go back in the ATF. At my direction, the FBI released the first set of FBI photos of the suspect at 10 a.m. local time on 9-11. Then shortly thereafter the FBI reward of $100,000 was released at 1045 a.m. local. Myself and Deputy Director Bongino arrived on the scene at approximately 530 p.m. on 9-11. The governor led a press conference last night at approximately 8 p.m. we also released new

images to the public of the suspect and just last night the suspect was taken into custody at 10 p.m. local time in less than 36 hours 33 to be precise thanks to the full weight of the federal government and leading out with the partners here in the state of Utah and Governor Cox, the suspect was apprehended in a historic time period. And I want to highlight what Governor Cox said. This would not have been possible without you, the media, and you, the public.

That's why we went so public, so fast, and we're so transparent, and we're committed to that transparency. The crime scene, just a little bit there, it is a large crime scene. State and local authorities along with federal authorities processed that crime scene quickly and I even had the scene and walked through the steps the suspect took to learn more about what was needed and what resources we needed to bear to create a full picture for the FBI and leadership back in Washington. Furthermore,

thankfully to state local partners, forensic evidence has been seized and continues to be garnered. Forensic evidence has already been evaluated. FBI laboratories in Quantico and state local authorities here. We will continue to process evidence as we see it as we collected, and we will continue to deliver to Governor Cox and his team. We have over 11,000 leads that were called in to the FBI and we are running out every single lead that we can. Every one of those

leads will be run out. The arrest is a testament to dedication of good law enforcement being great and partnerships in law enforcement which I've tried to highlight as my tenure at the FBI to partner with state and local authorities. And you've seen it here in these last few days. The FBI Salt Lake Field Office, along with our offices in LA, Phoenix, Denver, San Antonio, Las Vegas, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, our headquarters component in Quantico, all participate in the FBI. I want to express my deep gratitude to the employees operators, the agents, the support staff. You have done my right to demand such an

expeditious solving of an investigation. The important to our... Okay so how do you

feel about what Cash just said right now? It's kind of I don't know and again way way too early but it's as if it's the same playbook over and over and over again. I'm Rob in the chat He got a scholar He's reading a letter of receiving a thirty two thousand a good Kid that has a scholarship that obviously has a brain to do something This isn't a like you said Pat waking up in in the morning and I'm gonna go shoot Charlie Kirk.

No, I believe there's something deeper. Who knows who was around him? Can you play that clip that he's talking about? It was just texted to everybody. Yeah, that one right there. And again, very, way too early,

but from the looks of it, this isn't.

Here it is, let's see what he says.

Okay. Here it is, let's see what he says. Congratulations, you have been selected to receive the Resident Presidential Scholarship from Utah State University. The value of this scholarship is approximately $32,000.

This scholarship is available for four years.

So allegedly that's the kid? So yeah, so what, what, and again, we don't know anything, just his name and jumping off the roof, and that's all him, because some of the photos go on a roof and shoot someone in the neck in front of everybody

in that fashion and then run away. I think at some point in time this young man was radicalized. You don't go from all the descriptions that people have forward. He was radicalized by someone, or some diving into things, and took himself down the rabbit hole and became angry, bitter, and changed so he could do it, or it was someone that guided him. We've seen this happen with young men down this rabbit hole and then materially change. And people talk about it.

Oh, between 18 and 20 years old, he completely changed. Look at Luigi, you know, that killed that killed you. What do you mean? He went away. Remember we talked about this, Pat, with him. Remember he went away? He went like to Hawaii or something for two years and he came back and his parents and friends and family were saying we didn't recognize him. We didn't understand, we recognized him physically, but we didn't recognize his point of view, didn't recognize his demeanor and stuff. something happens. So I believe something has happened for him to be capable.

Right now we say he is the suspect that is going to be indicted, that is allegedly the assassin.

So I got it. So this is a picture of him and his dad, okay, before he went to college.

With the American flag on the-

That's right. Father on the left shoulder. Rob, go to the other thing, the DSA that you just had up was that him speaking or was that where it says he's Part of the DSA you just had a tweet that the guys were speaking saying he's part of DSA

Yeah, that was just a speaker from the DSA wasn't him

But they're saying that he's part of this group Democratic Socialists of America. Can you go on to Democratic Socialists of America? So who's on this if you go to the website what pictures are there of who who is recognized on there Bernie AOC squad side of things you just had a minute ago I think a minute ago you were on a website that had a mom Donnie on it it had Rashidi on it where were you you were literally just somewhere I just saw

it on the site that you had these are the kids you debated in Jubilee the Democratic Socialists these aren't Democrats Yeah

Guy for social a guy from Serbia yesterday came and said please never talk to those guys that you did the Jubilee with I Said why he's as if you don't talk to them How are you gonna get to the bottom of it you have to talk to them to kind of find out what's gonna be happening

Okay, we want to get to the bottom of who was this shooter in my opinion to publicize their names I don't want to give them any shine. I want to focus on Charlie. Charlie was murdered and assassinated the day before 9-11 9-10 It was kicking off his American comeback tour 9-10 if post humiliously the presidential Medal of Freedom to Charlie Kirk. That's who we should be speaking about.

These people that have been indoctrinated through them. And oftentimes, who cares what happens here now to Charlie? I don't care about this kid. That's my opinion.

Yeah, well, to me, that sounds very noble, but I want to find out what happened here so this doesn't happen again. We have to learn. This is the mugshot I was just released of the shooter Tyler Robinson. They officially just released it Which guys you one question if you got to sit with this kid right now because I would Nothing more than what you're saying It shines to me where if you could sit down with this guy right now like an in like not a podcast

But an interview because I'm nothing from this guy for a long time, okay? Listen, here's all I care about, what happened. If he in the next 48 hours, they're carrying him from two issues about what happened here.

I just want to say one thing. We almost know what he stands for. If he's the person that wrote on the bullet fascists. A fascist? Charlie Kirk is a fascist? Charlie Kirk is the anti-fascist. Charlie Kirk believes in freedom of speech. He believes in open discourse. He believes in open debate. These people if you have a difference of opinion to them you now have a death sentence with Van Jones. Excuse me the hypocrisy that comes

from the left the the identity politics, nobody talks about race and gender more than the left. You talk about microaggressions, what about actual aggressions? Talk about trigger warnings, what about actually the left, the progressive left, they own this. And if you think about it, because you asked earlier, because I'm trying to figure out who and who benefits. You know how, Adam, you say follow the money you know I mean what

who who because think about it you talk about your next five moves you want to talk about planning ahead they took out it's not just this kid bro I think it's way deeper you're taking out the guy that's motivating the youth this is the future of the Republic. I love what you said the other day where you said and it was immediate it was immediate because Pat was the one that let me know and I had to run away. I'm so locked into Tony like you, I had to run out because Pat Wilson and the hurricane

and I'm crying, everybody's emotional about what just happened. It came over me because I realized what the fight is and we're in it and it's us and the podcast and what PBD Podcast is we're on there I saw some list Pat I saw a big list Megyn Kelly boom boom boom people Patrick we're on there we're making we're back we're speaking fact and it pisses some people off how many death threats do you get how many death threats do you get it's unbelievable but

we're gonna win I don't give a damn what this this side is doing what this evil is gonna do we're gonna win and we're gonna prevail. I love you Vinny. Why are these things happening? Why was Trump almost assassinated a year ago? When was the year anniversary? This summer. On bullets. It's because this is what they've been told for a decade. Now you might want to criticize the right. Sure, you say things like that Obama is gay and Michelle's a man. Okay, maybe that's not true, but you're not. Joe Biden got his freaking diagnosis of cancer.

Show me the people on the right that were celebrating and happy and saying die. Go ahead, go and look it up. Go ahead, Rob, try to find it. It's unbelievable how disgusting these people are and how far gone they are.

It's unbelievable. And Vinny, you're right. And if people on the right, here's the difference. The people on the right would call them out. What are you doing?

What are you saying right now?

We prayed for them. We prayed for this old guy.

I don't think he should have been president, but... My Democratic friends need to do better and call out their far-left extremist counterparts. That's a... That was Taylor Lorenz, the only person that did celebrate that I could find Joe Biden's cancer. Seems to be a common theme here from the progressive left.

You know, I'm gonna show something that's maybe the... What's up? You guys are gonna love this here. Watch this tweet here from 14 years ago. Tell me this isn't the coolest tweet. Look at this. This is Chad Glenbeck.

I'm a 17-year-old high school student listening to you every day. Fight liberal bias.

Wow.

14 years ago. 17 years old. You know what this means? Look how many likes I got. Look how many retweets I got. 20 retweets, 21 likes.

You know what this means? Do you know how many millions of kids right now, this is their guy? Do you know how many millions of kids are looking up to him? Do you know how many millions of kids are going to sit there watching Charlie Kirk debate videos on rerouted? The reason why I keep talking about this comparison with him and how important he was

to American history, but you don't have thousands of hours. As a matter of fact, Rob, if you go on ChatGPT right now and you ask, how many hours of content are there of Charlie Kirk speaking? How many hours of content are there of Charlie Kirk speaking? How many? I just put it right here.

It says, launch 2017, so it's doing the math. It says there's roughly 4,700 hours of Charlie Kirk speaking. How many hours of Martin Luther King are there in comparison to Charlie. Charlie's got 4,700. Martin Luther King at a time where social media didn't exist, you didn't have the access to YouTube.

There was no ... Martin Luther King just tweeted something that didn't ... Do you know what the number is?

Hundreds.

Between the two? Forty to maybe a hundred hours of archived preserved versus 4,700. You're talking 50 times more hours of content. What age did did MLK die by the way I thought it's 39 39 Okay, MLK dies at the age of 39 Charlie dies at the age of 31 Okay 4700 hours

How many people you think gonna watch those hours? Features that he gives the one at the church the one at the there's so many of them, but he got 4700 speeches that he gives, the one at the church, the one at the, there's so many of them. But he got 4,700. There's millions of kids that are going to aspire. I'm on Manect answering all these questions. And one by one by one, people are saying, Pat, I'm inspired to do this and I'm inspired to do that and I'm inspired to do this.

I'm inspired to do that. You next. This could be you next. This could be you next. This could be you next. This could be you next. So I think his legacy is going to continue on. And data came out, which the left has got to be so scared.

Let me tell you how scared the left's got to be. Do you know they're saying Gen Z is going to be the biggest conservative generation of all time? Do you know they're saying Gen Z, how big is Gen Z Rob? How big is Gen Z? They're saying Gen Z will be the biggest generation of conservatives we've ever seen in the history

of America. Gen Z. What does that mean? You've got 68 to 70 million Gen Z's in America. They're saying this is going to be the biggest generation of conservatives. Do you know what America's going to look like the next 40 years because of what Charlie

Kirk did the last 14 years? Do you realize what America's going to look like the next 60 years, 50 years because of Gen Z? These kids on campus have been hearing Charlie. It's done. Once that message gets in a liberal, you don't ever give up your conservative ideology. Very rarely does that ever happen, except if your name is Joe Walsh and you're confused.

But for the most part, things like this don't happen. But here's the question I want to process with you guys since we're already in this topic with the youth and Gen Z. Here's what I want to ask you. The question, what happens to Turning Point USA next?

Great question.

Tom, what do you think happens to Turning Point USA next?

Turning Point USA I think will continue. I'll go top to bottom. It's not going away. It's going to get a lot of funding in the near term. People are going to be supporting the cause. Part two, it will continue to facilitate these meetings

on campus. the call. Part two, it will continue to facilitate these meetings on Camp. Does Burning Point have a voice like Charlie at the top? No, but what it's going to have to do is find its power in distributed effectiveness. And if the people that are waking up, as you say, Pat, you know, I look at this to the stoning of Stephen, which if you read Acts chapter eight, nine, and 10,

Stephen-

That's such a good story, go for it.

Stephen is stoned after he goes in in front of the Jewish leaders, and he recounts, basically he gives a history lesson, and he said, and the rabbi you were waiting for, the Messiah you were waiting for, this was him, and you hung him on a tree. And it says the Jewish you were waiting for, this was Him. And you hung Him on a tree.

And it says the Jewish leaders got very upset. They flipped out and said, take Him out and have Him stoned. Well, the Romans were the police that were maintaining, you know, kind of govern themselves basically.

Under Pontius Pilate, correct?

Yeah, well, a variety of people. And so they took Him out there and He was stoned. And you read in the Bible that his spirit was taken to heaven at his moment of death, and he looked to the heavens and there was bright light. But they said in Scripture, immediately a persecution broke out in Jerusalem and more widely, and the Christians scattered.

And so what happened was it extended the church. It extended Christianity because the stoning of Stephen triggered. He is then converted by the Holy Spirit and God himself on the road to Damascus and becomes the missionary and mentor to all. We have made mourning and consequence and evil and so many things. He's not. I think now what happens to Turning Point?

They're going to get money. They're going to continue to. But is there a group of leaders to hold it together so its effectiveness can continue on campuses the way they do today with the individual clubs?

And I murdered but actually being martyred. Revelations six chapters 9 through 10, basically it says, when a martyr's blood hits the throne of heaven, it turns the vengeance of the king towards the evil ones on this earth.

Okay, so all the people out there that are furious, that are mad, God will take care of everything. Tom, I'm so happy that people like Charlie give their lives for truth and heaven hears it. The blood of the righteous moves the hand of the king in vengeance.

It's not for us. It's for God.

You know what's so impressive? Yesterday, the Yankees sent out a tweet recognizing and honoring Charlie Kirk in ... Before tonight's game we held a moment of silence in memoriam of Charlie Kirk. Kirk founded the youth active message the Yankees and I let them know how impressed I was with this and how great look at that look at that isn't that great that's cool man are they smiling yep who's not smiling they're all

smiling they're smiling that the president came to bingo I love that I

love that I have a good video if you'd like to.

Good for you, Yankees.

At the Yankees.

We need more of those glass everywhere. Good for Riley, by the way, for being.

We're also going to need more of those people to vote in the New York City mayoral election

yeah because unfortunately uh they're still looking like they're going to be electing mom donnie yeah well we'll see what happened there next story i want to get into rob can you pull up the sit down between tucker carlson and sam altman okay tucker sits down with Sam Altman. They're having a conversation together. Very serious but fair question of what happened to one of...

What was that?

Also a great tragedy. He committed suicide. Do you think he committed suicide? I really do. This was like a friend of mine. This is like a guy that... Not a close friend, but this is someone that worked at OpenAI for a very long time. I was really shaken by this tragedy.

I spent a lot of time trying to, you know, read everything I could, as I'm sure you and others did too, about what happened. It looks like a suicide to me.

Why does it look like a suicide? I read the whole medical record. Does it not look like one to you? No, he was definitely murdered, I think. There were signs of a struggle, of course. Surveillance, camera, the wires had been cut. He had just ordered takeout food,

come back from a vacation with his friends on Catalina Island. No indication at all that he was suicidal. No note and no behavior. He had just spoken to a family member on the phone, and then he's found dead with blood in multiple rooms. So that's impossible.

Seems really obvious he was murdered. Have you talked to the authorities about it?

I have not talked to the authorities about it.

And his mother claims he was murdered on your orders.

Do you believe that?

I'm asking.

I mean, you just said it, so do you believe that?

I think that it is workhorse and then is found killed and there are signs of a struggle.

I don't... Can you... Because we've had the family on. You want to kind of share with the audience who they're talking about?

Yes. His name was Suchir Balaji. He was an open AI researcher, worked for the company for a long time, was quickly rising up within the company. The software was running into regarding that copyright. And then all of a sudden he went to Catalina Island like that.

And then the next thing you know, they find him dead inside of his home. Like Tucker mentioned, camera wires cut very odd bloodstains all over the apartment. When you look at the footage from inside the apartment, which the family provided us, when you look around the footage from inside the apartment, which the family provided us, when you look around the footage,

it looks like it's a crime scene. There's things all over the place.

And yet they ruled that this death was a suicide.

Yeah, so.

What does the authorities say? It's almost the same, bro, with Mark Middleton, who was hanging from a tree with an extension cord. It's suicide, as if people are all paid off and they're all in on it and I absolutely love Listen say what you want people. Hey Tucker Mind you remember that list I was talking about where Charlie's on and that we're on

Tucker's up there Tucker's up there. You know why he's asking questions Love him or hate him. He wants to know the truth Okay And I don't know how everybody else feels, seeing Sam Altman's body language and the way his energy was coming off, something seems a little off.

And I saw the podcast with a crying mother who believes that her son was murdered. If it was this huge billion dollar company, multi-billion dollar company, when somebody is talking and somebody's opening their mouth, it's not that hard, guys.

It's not that hard to have a horrible job open AI is worth what five hundred billion dollars and you and evil just goes by the way even if I'm not accusing anybody at open AI of doing anything but you think it's that hard when these people give orders when when Bush hey this decision needs to be made go do it if they're even involved so it's like and I watch the podcast just to see all the stuff that was in there. There is no way you could, you could convince me that he killed himself.

Adam zero. There's zero for me. You know, you say a hundred percent. He was 100% murdered. Plain and simple.

In your opinion, in my opinion.

Yes. In your opinion. In my opinion, yes. So this, you know, you look at it with common sense and you say to yourself, how is it possible? They never found the bullet. The gun, fact, that's a fact, not a conclusion. The gun was on the wrong side and so for his last act he committed suicide apparently, as they say, with the wrong hand.

You know what, I've been right-handed all my life, but to call this one off I'm going to shoot myself. That's why now, Pat, we have the word suicided in our lexicon. Go look at the origin of the word suicided. He got suicided and now we and why do we start talking that way why do we use that word it's

beatens regardless of what it says some medical examiner will sign a piece of paper paid off instructed pick the word you like and it's a suicide. And that appears here. Then you go to, okay, so one simple question. Who influenced, there's one person in that jurisdiction responsible for investigating homicides and suicide is in, off on the medical examiner report. So if you have two people that are paid off or told,

that's all you need. And then everybody else is told keep your job, your mouth stays shut. It's so simple. It's so simple. But, you know, this looks like this kid was suicided.

If this was a movie, Tom, if this was a movie, you would know who the bad guy was. You know what I mean? There's no questioning it.

I don't know what happened in this situation, but I do want to address Tucker Carlson for a second or sometimes when you're interviewing American foes You feel very comfortable pushing the Ted Cruz's of the world and the Sam Altman's of the world people who are Americans and love America Where's this energy when you're interviewing Putin buddy? Where's this interview when you're interviewing Putin's right-hand man Sergei Lavrov? Where's this energy, even a speck of it, Two-Face Tucker, when you're interviewing

the president of Iran? Save me the moral virtue signaling, hey, hey, I'm just asking questions, and use it with people who actually hate America. Cool, great, ask tough questions to people who you have differences with, great, but keep that energy when you're interviewing America's enemies

That's my thoughts on two-faced Tucker. Well. He kept the energy with Mark Cuban I don't know if you guys saw a good one And you want to go if you want to if you want to go to that Mark Cuban clip with Ukraine? Here's what happened there if you want to go to it and David Sachs asked questions about Ukraine,

and then this is what Mark Cuban said, and then this is what Tucker said, go for it.

Mark, let me ask you a question. What's your take on whether we should be sending money to Ukraine or not? Were you in favor?

I think we should help, but I don't have a studied answer for you.

How much money have you sent to Ukraine?

None.

Oh, so what do you mean by we? You're the one whose family's from Ukraine. Like, why don't you send him a billion dollars?

Because I'm trying to fix health care.

Why don't you fix their health care if you're like so deep? If you think we need to help. That's not what charity is.

Forcing other people to help is.

Cuban did not like that. He didn't know what to do with it. You see that is like if Mark Cuban was was and I assume a billionaire is paying a massive amount of taxes. He could have said that, but he opened himself up. Who's paid the most amount of taxes in the history of America?

I think it's Elon Musk.

Yeah. But I can fact check that. So I'm not advocating sending more money or not sending more money to Ukraine. Yeah. But if Mark Cuban was on his feet, which on his toes, he could have said, yeah, we're

all sending money and so are you Tucker. But it reminds me of the people Adam that are just the most, hell no, my sister lives with me. Yeah bull crap. It's the same freaking attitude. If he cares that much and he thinks that we should help him, help him more Adam. Our taxes of course.

How many hundreds of billions have we sent? Humbutch Robb to Ukraine? I'm going to guess 130 billion?

We've done a hundred of it If you're gonna talk to talk walk the walk give a little more at him cuz they can and then you got to be careful When you dive into this because some of the money is going to us defense contractors. Oh, we didn't give it to you Great, it's a Boeing and they sent But there's there's

There's a phrase for that. There's a phrase for that. There's a phrase for that. I think it's called the military industrial complex.

The military industrial complex.

Let's go to the strike. Israel strike on Qatar. And this is a WAPO story. Washington Post story. Talking about this call that they had with Trump and Bibi.

Let me read this story to you. The senior U.S. administration officially conveying deep frustration this call that they had with Trump and Bibi. Let me read this story to you. The senior US administration official conveyed deep frustration at being blindsided at Israel's

strike.

Political leaders in Doha, Qatar's capital, wasn't wise. He was angry to learn about the attack as it was occurring from the US military rather than from Israel, and it struck the territory of another US ally that was mediating negotiations on ending the Gaza war took the opportunity. Second call was cordial.

Officials say as Trump asked Netanyahu if the attack had proven successful, Netanyahu said he didn't know. Hours later, Hamas claimed that Israel's targets, officials said Trump, a staunch support of Israel that's increasingly frustrated when Netanyahu continually boxes him with aggressive moves taken without US input that clash with Trump's own Middle East goals in Gaza. Trump favors a ceasefire in red.

Israel attack on Qatar unfortunate but worthy. Rob is this the clip? Go for it.

This morning the Trump administration was notified by the United States military that as Israel was attacking Hamas, which, very unfortunately, was located in a section of Doha, the capital of Qatar. Unilaterally bombing inside Qatar, a sovereign nation in close alliance with the United States,

who have profited off the misery of those living in Gaza, is a worthy goal. President Trump immediately directed Special Envoy Whitkoff to inform the Qataris of the impending attack, which he did. a dead now. Trump believes this unfortunate incident could serve as an opportunity for peace. The president also spoke to the Amir and prime minister of Qatar and thanked them for.

Adam thoughts. Yeah. Qatar is our friend, like MS 13 is our friend down there in a ship that is ongoing with Qatar is becoming more exposed. So why does Hamas terrorists feel very comfortable living in Doha, Qatar? Just ask me that. Adam, why do they feel so comfortable staying in Qatar? That's the question that I want to know. So you ever heard of the term of a full arbitrator helping the United States, but at the same

time trying to be an ally to terrorists in the Middle East? So here's what I know Israel has basically said no remember the movie Wedding Crashers when she goes, I hope you never try to leave me because why? I'll find you that's what the IDF and Mossad are basically telling terrorists whether it's Hezbollah with the beepers Beep beep boom whether it's the leaders of Hamas that are hanging out in Qatar in

millionaire apartments, they're gonna find you and As an American, yeah I would like an ally a staunch ally of Israel to maybe give me a heads up if I'm the president United States But this sort of is counterintuitive that Israel owns the United States, this whole subjugation over there. Okay, how about they're acting in the best interest of Israel? They've been pretty damn clear they are going to eliminate Hamas and the leaders of Hamas.

You may disagree. You may say that's crazy. You may not agree with it. I totally understand. But this is what Israel is saying. They're going to find you and they're going to take you out like they're Liam Neeson and take it.

Because you want to get them.

There's a big difference here. The difference here is let me put it to you this way. So the US has said that there are drug dealers in the hills just over the border and there is coyotes in the hills just over the border of Mexico. And we're going to send military to do that. Those areas are rural, you know,

desolate in many cases, like nothing there except little camps where they conduct their stuff. And okay, so you go into a little camp on the hills in the middle of freaking nowhere and you take some guys out. That, okay, nobody in the world is going to look at that and they may say well, that's you know, Mexico's sovereign country You shouldn't be doing that But what if Mexico knew that there were bad guys that they don't like in? Georgetown right there in Washington DC

Doha's the capital of Qatar and so you're going to not only a sovereign nation You're going to a suburb of their capital to take out a bad guy That's you know, that's a couple levels up and I could Lee what United States did in Pakistan with Osama bin Laden We have a relationship with Pakistan Why does Osama bin Laden feel comfortable hiding out with Pakistan? Why is he in Islamabad? What's going down?

How about we needed to take him out because of the Pentagon? So according to Mossad and IDF, these were the head of Hamas. I don't see a distinguishment. I don't see a difference.

I could be wrong, but again, they want to go after...

A military action in a capital city of a foreign country when you don't have the full support of the U.S. and the U.S. is a key ally of yours in the Middle East where you're surrounded by people that want to exterminate you? I don't know, man. I think Israel got way out over its skis on this one

because it's very clear that the White House is upset. It's very clear that the White House is upset. It's very clear that the UN is upset. And you can't just keep saying, well, these people want to kill Israel. Oh, there's a guy over here. There's a guy over here. You're dealt with. But if you don't tell your ally or you told us at the last minute, hey, I'm about to do something. Don't hang up. I got to tell you now. It's because it's just a couple minutes away however that happened the US is pissed the State Department's pissed the DoD is pissed the UN is pissed why are we pissed when we normally support people and say hey

wait a minute you're threatening that guy and one of your guys got killed easy

does it buddy I don't disagree with you again as an American I don't want to see people basically going against US interests. But I'm speaking as someone who's...

So, US helped you out, especially Trump helped you out. If Trump's not the president, what does it look like? You may have a great intel, you may have a great intelligence agency, Mossad, and you get a lot of intel for us because we're not there, yes, kudos to you, but who did you have to call to take out those three nuclear sites?

Who needed to do those three things for you? Could you do it, training to do it? No, you didn't. So when you understand that you ask for help and you call and we keep low key and we go and support you and you want to do something like this and it's not even a phone call to the guy that helped you take

out those three nuclear missiles. I think diplomacy is one thing and I actually support the fact that to affect other relations you may have. This is your number one supporter. I think you should have made the call. That makes me uncomfortable.

I'm going to be all over the Trump getting mad and Trump getting mad. If you know, Pat, if you're a kid and you know your parents aren't going to get, your dad's not going to yell at you, keep doing it. If my mom's not going to spank me for doing something, they're just going to go, hey, don't do that again. I'm going to keep doing it comes to Qatar and trust me

I don't I'm not cool with him doing the operation without saying it are there in Qatar Guess what at one point they were gonna go there period and what we say Adam You're gonna keep killing the bees but we keep killing Hamas Hamas Hamas Hamas the beehive apparently the leaders are all they're all in Qatar they're all hiding out there they're not in Gaza they're not on the ground so if you that's the thing you go after the beehive you don't keep killing the end of the hostages and they keep for instance let me let me take a step back we're going after the leaders we keep going you kill six leaders six more are coming right back these are

terrorists they don't disappear they drop down like if God forbid something happened to anybody in our chain of command of the military Next up in line. It's not gonna stop like a hydra It is it is Tommy keep seeing all this stuff, but when it comes to the these poor freaking hostages It's an unattainable objective. Okay. They keep saying well We're gonna unless we get the hostages back you're doing all this stuff around the world

How about cuz Gaza is flattened set up an operation because I know you have the knowledge, I know you guys have the technology, get down there, a fight and some of them die, I'm sorry, that's a freaking war, that is war. We have to go get them because they're getting tortured as we speak, they're getting starved as we speak and the excuse that people are getting tired of is is well not until we get the hostages back well guess what set up a mission like you set a freaking drone that blew up a Hamas leader and an apartment in his room they didn't affect

the building at all they went after the one guy use that technology use your operation use thermo whatever find out where the hell they are go down that I'm sorry some of them are probably going to die, but enough of this shit. Go down there, fight for them, and if some of them die, I'm sorry, that's a casualty of war.

Because people are getting upset, because it's like, come on man.

It's not that there's some really bad leaders that need to die. Sure, I agree. There's you gotta coordinate this a little better, and it can't be I'm sorry I didn't call you I bombed them in Doha what in a Qatar what are its military base out in the middle of nowhere in the sand

You what? By the way, I'm 1 million percent under I think you should have I know I know you do at the same time I'm saying it. We don't have all the information because it might have comes the free pass Tom breaking news those guys we've been looking for they're all in the same building We don't have all the information. Because it might have come to the free pass. Breaking news, those guys we've been looking for, they're all in the same building. They're going to be there for lunch.

You've got 15 minutes. I don't know how this works. I agree with, I mean. But here's what I will say about your whack-a-mole sort of perspective of like, if you kill them more people are going to pop up. Well, that's what you could say about ISIS. That's what you could say about Al-Qaeda. That's what you could say about the Nazis. That's what you could say about MS-13. That's

what you could say about the Venezuelan drug boats that we've been eliminating. You don't not eliminate terrorists. You don't not eliminate Nazis just because maybe more will pop up. Maybe there will, maybe there won't. You need to eliminate the bad people while you can. I think Rue and Stem, when Trump came in, Adam, he killed ISIS, period.

They were gone. But ISIS still exists, though. Only under Biden, they started... Under Biden, yeah. Then they're kill everybody. Vinny, you're proving my point.

They didn't say,'t kill Isis because more isis will pop I agree But what I'm saying is the threat the main threats are in Gaza. They're underground I don't know where else they're hiding them set up an operation tree are but the leaders are in My only question is why do they feel comfortable hanging out?

One last story

Eric

what causes steer go ahead Rob

this is the beginning of the campaign where it needs to stop this is a sample of the signs that we'll be using to demonstrate as we launch this demonstration is that we are giving dawah

we are giving dawah to the people the more dawah that we give the more people accept Islam and the more people accept Islam. And the more people accept Islam, the less demand there will be for stores just like this that don't have any rules, no ill,

As-salamu alaykum, rahmatullah. As-salamu alaykum. Brother Muttman, I remember your memory, I told you I was gonna come back and see you. I was so happy to see Muslim. Always I'm always glad to see a Muslim, especially one with a beautiful name. Mutman. It's a part of the believer. What I want to information that I have for you is that this is the United

States of America and here the law protects people no matter what they want to do. Honestly. Okay. However, as Muslims, we have an obligation to uphold the dean of Islam and do everything correctly according to the dean. It has pork, alcohol, and gambling, which is against Islam. Okay? Now, I don't have a right to stop you, but I just want to let you know that as a Muslim, I'm obligated to teach the people in the neighborhood correctly because we give a lot of dawah. And as I'm letting you know teach the people in the neighborhood correctly, because we give a lot of dawah.

And as I'm letting you know that—and whoever the owner is, I know you're only the manager, but towards the end of this month, we're kicking off a national protesting and demonstration campaign against all Muslim businesses that have haram in their stores—the pork, alcohol, and gambling. OK? in their stores the pork alcohol and gambling okay that'll give them give that gives them at least to the end of this month to change their inventory or

either move to a different neighbor I said I would like them okay we're here

now in Jack's food store what is he doing right he's just going to different stores warning them I'll show you along the state over a viral video that showed an Imam pressuring Muslim owned shops Sharia law should be reported immediately if this person or anyone attempts to impose Sharia compliance reported to a local law enforcement or Texas Department of Public Safety the controversy began when Imam Ghassim Ibn Ali Khan of

Masjid Al-Tawheed was filmed confronting a store owner. So that's the clip. We have one law in this country and it is the Constitution of the United States. And it is the, everything that came from our founding fathers it is no other law than that, plain and simple. Sharia law, if you want to do Sharia law,

you can take a one-way ticket to any place you'd like in the Middle East, anywhere in the Muslim world. Feel free brother. As-salamu alaykum. In America we practice one law, that's the Constitution, that's the United States law, straight up read a book. My interpretation of this man right here, my opinion is he was not born

Muslim. He was a dude who most likely went to jail and came out of jail a Muslim. He didn't come here, you can just tell there's no accent. He didn't come from Saudi Arabia. He didn't come from Palestine, none of it. He came and was probably left prison. Now why am I saying something like that?

Because that's where they get people to convert to Islam, more than any place in the world in America today. They come out of prison, they turn to Islam. Listen, if you were born as a Muslim, respect to you, brother. Totally understand.

One law in America, and it ain't Sharia, homeboy. Respect to Governor Abbott for the story,

but it is connected to the story. What Governor Abbott is concerned about is the Muslims have been very open about creating mosques and schools together and through the mosque they will enforce Sharia law under Sharia law for her disobedience. Sorry, we're not doing that in America.

So it's the consequence that's coming after this that Governor Abbott is trying to get in front of Pat. He's trying to get way in front of this. Because this guy's going door to door, hey, you say you're a Muslim, you shouldn't be selling this stuff. On the surface, okay, hey, you claim to be this faith,

we don't do these things. What comes next when the storekeeper doesn't comply? And Muslims are very hard on those who claim the faith, but don't abide by it. And so what Abbott is trying to do is saying you will not have Sharia courts and you will not consent our American law. And I applaud Governor Abbott for doing that because that's what he's trying to get in

front of. Well, the question is if New York City or any place in Michigan are going to implement something like this, why did why did governor Abbott take the lead on this because after New York City after Dearborn, Michigan? Do you know what sit? I'm an American. I believe in freedom of speech I believe in freedom of religion if you're a Muslim respect to you brother, but there's one law in the United States

And that's the Constitution not sure so here's what you guys might not like my take on this But is he what what I don't think he was enforcing sure law I agree with Sharia law nor I Agree to their practices and with the women and the gays and all that that owns a strip club Or a weed shop or a sex shop. You're like yo, bro. You're you speak the faith. You are a Christian Are we supposed to just turn the I'm like, yeah, but he's paying money. He's paying taxes and he's giving his tithes to the church. I don't agree with the Sharia law at all, but you got to give this guy credit for going

up to people and keeping them in check and making videos and putting them on blast on the internet. Because if you're going to talk the talk, walk the walk. Are you really a Muslim? Are you really a Christian?

You know what I mean? what he believes in and kudos to him. Rob, I sent you a picture, I don't know if you have it or not, about a man I met at the Vault Conference yesterday. If you do have it, please upload it. Vault Conference I've come to back to back to back to back. He says, last week you brought me up on the stage. He says, you have to realize, I don't agree with you politically.

I don't agree with you where you're at. He says, I'm a Palestinian and I'm Muslim. Okay? Did you see this? And I, you know, I'm a Muslim. And I don't like some of the things that you say.

He says, but you have no idea how much I respect you. And he was so respectful about the whole thing. I like to recognize the gift. We have the picture, Rob, to put it up. Coming up and wanting to spread their faith, but Adam makes a very good point. One more time in a row. Texas is dealing with it.

Wow. Good for him. Good for him, exactly. Texas is dealing with it right now, and we're going to see what's going to be happening, especially with what just happened with Charlie? I'm just very curious how some states across the country are going to handle different events that happen because again, my biggest concern is zero to civil war from one event.

And it could be a very weird event the next couple of weeks. Gank, thanks for being here with us on today's podcast. We've got a few other stories to go through support Vinny angry Patriot go to VT merch comm place in order to get a hat get a t-shirt Rob, can you go a little bit lower? There's different types of t-shirts, you know

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