Charlie Pickering is getting CANCELLED now

Yesterday I had a chat with Charlie Pickering and now he may lose his job for daring to question the ABC's latest hire.

How do you feel about the fact that they hired Grace Thame after all of that?I do actually think it's problematic.

Leftists are in complete meltdown today over a snippet from my chat with Charlie Pickering at yesterday's Defund the ABC protest.But they might want to watch the full thing before grabbing their pitchforks.

I'm doing this for Drive this afternoon on radio.

So what about ABC News?They shouldn't be here?

Don't you think this is newsworthy?I'm not sure.I don't speak on behalf of the news.

How do you feel about the fact that they hired Grace Tame after all of that?

I do actually think it's problematic.That's my personal opinion.And I think, as you would understand, And as a Jewish Australian, there is a complete misunderstanding of a lot of the words that are said and what the true meaning of them are.And a lot of people are using words and phrases that have meaning well beyond what they think they do.

Do you really think that there's a misunderstanding?Do you think she doesn't know?Do you think people can actually plead ignorance at this point?

I think you could argue a lot of people that jump on protest bandwagons are ignorant a lot of the time.And that's not that particular protest.I think it's lots of them.Do you think Grace Tame is ignorant?

I wouldn't say that.That's what the left is trying to cancel him over today, which is funny because for the rest of the conversation, he defended the ABC, insisted they're not biased and maintained that he doesn't hire people based on their political views.I guess Charlie Pickering is about to find out just how tolerant the ABC and its loyal audience really are.Kim Williams, who actually happens to be related tobut he claimed the other day that if you walk through the building you wouldn't be able to guess people's political persuasion.I took him up on the challenge he hasn't taken me yet but do you think it's fair to say that it is a much it's a left -leaning institution?

I don't think that's true I know that because I've worked here for almost 13 years now and I worked here previously, it is nigh on impossible to use this as a platform for your own political opinions.Because of editorial policies, because of the steps you have to go through.That's not to say that mistakes aren't made in news coverage, particularly in complicated situations.

Sure, but the average person here would be, they've done internal voting, I'm not even guessing, there's 40 something percent have identified themselves as Greens voters.Do you think that's representative of the broader community?If you look at polls now across the country, there should be 30 % One Nation voters in there.Do you think there's 30 % One Nation?

Well, I don't think anyone should hire anyone based on their political affiliation, which is what you're suggesting.But I don't think people's political affiliation should have anything to do with why they are employed.It should be done on merit, qualification and the job that they do.Are you anti -quoters in general?No, I believe in quotas on things like gender, which are not political.

Why should there be gender quotas but not political?So political is much more representative?

Because this is not a political organisation.Are you kidding me, Charlie?No, I'm not.I work here.I have to understand the editorial policies and I have to play by them.I've had jokes that I think are just jokes.

But if they appear too biased, they're not used.But we're interviewing each other, so let me ask you...Go for it.

I just can't believe you said...It's in your interest because if One Nation were to get elected, like Prime Minister Pauline, she'll defund it and you're out of a job.So for you, you have to kind of say that there is no, it's your job that's on the line.

I thought I was about to ask you a question.

Go for it.

Okay.So what's your rigour as a, I presume you are a journalist?Journalist.Right, and so what's your rigour?

What are the rules that you follow to present both sides?I'm not taxpayer funded, so I'm not claiming to be unbiased.I clearly have a position and I'm proud of my position.My position is not left, it's just right.But the ABC here purports to be fair and balanced, which they're absolutely biased.Especially in things when it comes to the Middle East conflict, they are completely biased.

So what do they need to do better?

Be constructive, what do they need to do better?So firstly I think it should be defunded.I don't think that the taxpayers should have to pay for it, but I think that they need to tell both sides of the story equally.Like for example, when they look for representatives of the Jewish community, they often bring up the Jewish Council of Australia.She's the fringe of the fringe of the fringe.Now, they won't do the same...

Who decides that though?Who decides who is the fringe of a community?Tell me, who do we go to to decide who is the fringe of a community?

The community.Literally the community.Why did the ABC decide that Schwartz is a representative of the Jewish community?

Communities aren't monoliths.Are communities all monoliths?Is there one type of Jewish person in Australia?Absolutely not.Because I'm Jewish.I'm different to many Jewish people in Australia.

I don't consider myself identical to everyone.

Any poll you take in the Jewish community, I will put her.I will get more support and I'm a controversial figure.So who should we be speaking to?

We're being constructive here.

You're saying what should we do?I'm saying be fair and balanced.If you want to have that loony fringe nutcase up there, then have the other side.What are we correcting?Tell me the facts that you're trying to correct.So you need to have voices...

We don't add homonym attacks.Tell me the facts that you're trying to correct.

Almost every fact when it comes to the Middle East conflict.But when you're talking about...That's just one issue.

That is almost every fact.

Almost every fact.Almost every guest you have on.The way you display it.The way you play it.The framing.The questioning.

Everything you do around that.And it's not just about the Middle East conflict.That's just one political issue that's really close to people's hearts here.But every issue...has, and every issue has a political angle to it.Every issue, the ABC takes a left -wing position.

And that's, you don't, but you're in the echo chamber.

You are left -wing.Can you see how your generalisations are difficult as well?

Because I'm honest.I'm just honest.I'm honest, Charlie.I am not.I'm not pretending not to be a conservative.I would have less of a problem if this institution represented me equally.

It doesn't.It doesn't represent anyone here equally.So it's easy for you in your left -wing bubble to say, well, it's actually quite fair and balanced.I work here.Yeah, because it represents you.

I'm here to record you, to give you a platform on the radio.

I don't need your platform.My platform's bigger.

But saying that this organisation has to do a better job of representing your viewpoint and I'm out here recording you.Wait, doesn't that mean that all of the exact, you said it 100 % across the board.

I actually said almost all, which kind of proved my point.He was the only ABC personality down there.No news reporters, just a comedian fishing for content for his new show.Congratulations, Charlie.Well done.I agree.

Well done for coming out and trying to hear the other side.

I'm not here for your approval.I'm actually just here to hear what you think.

But the fact is that your one show on a station, on a network that's almost everything.The fact that ABC News itself is not out here asking people what their problems with ABC News is. I had to personally hunt down Matt Doran.I had to confront him in hostage square in Israel about his reporting.The fact that they won't come here when Australians and they asked me why do I go and do that?It's because you won't come here and listen to To Australian Jews, not you.

You understand it's problematic that I'm standing in front of you with a microphone.

You're not representative of the ABC.You have your own show.You're filling it up with something interesting.I get what you're personally thinking.But that is not ABC as a whole.

I think it's important for the ABC to hear a multitude of views.I do think that's important.

Do you want to take me up on my challenge?to walk around and I bet you I will guess people's voting?

I think you should take that up with Kim.That's absolutely not...Is he a good boss?Yeah, I've met him a few times.He has never interfered in my work so I think he's a good boss.

He's a nice uncle, I just think he's doing a poor job.

Yeah, as I've said, he's given me free reign to do my job.

I think he should lose his job.I think everyone here, I think he should put it to market.There's no point in today's day and age where media is so accessible around the world that the taxpayer has to fund something where the majority of Australians disagree with it, don't like what's being output.

I understand what you're saying, but I don't think the stat that you quoted there, because it's not Like, I don't think that's accurate because it's often rated as one of the most trusted organisations in Australia.

ABC Radio, in rural, in the cities, you guys are flopping.You guys get less views.

There's a placard over there about cherry -picking facts.That's what you're doing in this conversation now.

It's delusional to say that ABC across Australia...Okay, do you accept this?Do you accept that the majority of Australians would, if they had a choice now, want to defund the ABC?

I don't actually agree with that, no.That's just proof you live in a bubble.

What are you basing it on?You live in a bubble.This is your bubble.Maybe it is.But I'd be willing to bet anything that if Australians were asked today whether we should save $1 .3 billion by privatising the ABC, the overwhelming answer would be abso -bloody -lutely yes.How long have you been working at ABC?

I worked for three years in 2003 and I've been here for 13 years, like continuously now.

How many conservative presenters are there that you know of?You don't have to point them out.

The presenters aren't here for their political views, that's the thing.I had Andrew Bolt on my show because I think you need a multitude of voices.

He's not a presenter.How many presenters do you think, or would you guess?

I don't think anyone should be hired by the ABC based on their political viewpoint.But they are.Do you agree that they are?No, they're not hired based on their politics.No one's asked about their politics.I was not asked my politics when I got given a job.

So tell me this, how does Grace Tame get offered a job after calling for an intifada from Gadigal to Gaza and denying the rape of Jewish women on October 7th?No, seriously, how?I've never been offered a job at the ABC.Charlie admits it's problematic, but somehow still can't make the connection.You're avoiding the question though.No, I'm not.

I'm saying to you, if you had to guess...

I don't know the political affiliations of anyone I work with because I don't go around asking because it's irrelevant to our job.

Are you blind?You don't have an instinct?You can't guess what people's political views are based on conversation?

I don't pigeonhole people the way that you do.

The idea that Charlie doesn't know the political views of the people he works with is laughable, especially when the producer who tried to shut down our chat is a well -known leftist.But I guess Charlie had no idea.

Not a single person in there do I know their political affiliation because I think it's irrelevant to the job that I'm doing.I think your ideas, I want to hear your ideas.I don't care what jumper you're wearing, what team you're playing on.

I want to hear the ideas.In Charlie's defence, I think he's being genuine.After all, he didn't run away when the ABC producer tried to shut down the conversation.But that's exactly what makes him the exception, which is probably why he's the only person at the ABC willing to call out the hiring of Grace Tame.On the Middle East conflict, do you think that there is a bias, there is a problem with bias in the ABC?

I don't think I don't think any mistakes come from a point of bias, I'll say that.I think mistakes have been made in coverage in all directions, but I don't think they come from a place of bias.Charlie, why so obsessed with Israel, though?

Why is all the reporting on Israel all the time?20 years ago, I used to watch the ABC religiously.Like, that's where I...The only time I didn't listen to Radio National or watch 7 .30 Report or Lateline was when I listened to music on a radio station.But now I don't listen to it at all because it's the same story every day.

Right, so what should we do differently?What do you want to hear?Perspective.

right?There's more than one war going on in the world, many of them.

Michael, the flotilla propagandists were interviewed on 7 .30, giving their performative, saving Gaza rubbish, bringing condoms and drugs.to save the Gazans.

Why do you believe that happens?That it doesn't cover it in the way that you think it needs to?

It must be a policy.It must be editorialising on the program.They must be saying we're going to show this and nothing else.

What do you base that on?

Well, by what I saw, by what was presented.I'm not making something up, I'm not inventing what happened.This is what was shown on 7 .30.There was a 15 -minute narrative of the activists, of how they were beaten and raped and God knows what else they've invented.

So you believe firmly that there is a policy inside, there's a conspiracy to present that view that comes from the top and the people in management positions are dictating what gets covered?

You explain to me.No, I'm asking your position.Well, I'm asking you.

You explain to me. and no one's ever told me what to cover and how to cover it.at least equally to Israel -Palestine when there's as much carnage, if not there's far more.I don't have an answer to that question.This is the problem.So people don't have the solution.

He doesn't know if it's policy or it's...I was trying to interview this guy to have his views, to have a multitude of views on the overseas.

Because you're trying to put him into a corner where he has to say it's some conspiracy.Could you possibly let him speak for himself?It's not a conspiracy.They just hire leftists.You're one of the leftists that they hire.

I'm not a leftist.I'm not a leftist.Where should the ABC be getting information where they're not getting it?

Well maybe don't sit down for half an hour with left -wing activists who travel across the world to defame Israel, who then claim they were tortured and raped and beaten where it's obvious that they weren't, but you didn't even have somebody there to question their narrative.And those are the same activists, I don't care.Those are the same activists who deny the rapes on October 7th, deny the torture.

Dude, I gave you heaps of time.

To his credit, Charlie did give me plenty of his time, which is probably why his own fans are now calling to cancel him.But it's frustrating how he kept asking protesters how they think bias got there, as if not knowing the mechanism somehow proves it doesn't exist.

Do you think that comes from within the organisation deliberately as a policy?All the time.

All the time.All the time on the ABC.And that is Jew hatred.

Right, so as a Jew who works in the organisation, I've never felt that.That's gaslighting.Straight out.I spoke of my experience of gaslighting myself?

Yes.Wild.As a Jew, I've never seen that before when it's clear to all whether it be Jewish, Iranian or just your average Australian.

Charlie Pickering says there's no bias in the ABC.Do you think he's still a good comedian?

Charlie Pickering, have a look in the mirror, mate.You're a bloody disgrace.You're part of the problem.You can't even see it.If you don't think there's any bias, there's got to be something wrong, mate.You're a raving bloody idiot.

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