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Clancy Updates, Chris Watts Getting Married, Kohberger Psych Eval Released & Philly House of Horrors

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Hello and welcome again to a new episode of Serialously, with your host, Annie Elise.Thursday is a happy day.I hope you have a great week.I know it was a rough week with the defense of the trial of Lindsay Killens now.There is a lot going on, and a lot of real crime.And at a previous time this week, on the second day, a deep investigation was launched into a completely new case.

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To analyze everything, and these two were actually an interview I sat in with Terese Hansen.And as you can see if you were watching the video version of this program.I am honored to have the founder of my drink, Sunkist, with me.Oh my God!Hello!I knew that there was a kind of sarcasm coming, not sarcasm.

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You change like the rays of the sun.This looks like the title of my movie, Rumi and Michel.You change like a girl, Fanta.Fanta, Fanta, don't you want Fanta, Fanta?Walking with this brightness.We look like Halloween atmospheres now.

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Watson.Or him?Yes.We will talk about Watson too.You are right.We will talk about Watson.

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Or?Oh my God.Okay.Yes, we have.Let me get into the heart of the matter because we have a lot to cover.

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Okay.I can't confirm the extent of people's division about Clancy's trial.

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Okay.I don't think there is a division after now.Do you think so?I think I am a minority.Good.Yes.

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Yes.Good.I have to say yes.You are the minority.Yes.I think I am the division.

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No.No.No.I will say this.And in fact, to all my listeners of the Apple podcast, I released an additional episode yesterday, in which I work on these additional episodes that are not planned or planned, and are called Nobatiani, where I get out of the text and start talking.And it is not released, and it is not written, and it is not censored, I am only talking about divorce.

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And I haven't told you about this yet, Emy.It was released yesterday about this topic and what happened this week in the trial and some of the madness there.And I have really called for mercy for myself.But one of the things I mentioned is that, despite the fact that I am in the minority that you think Lindsay did that, I have spoken with at least 15 experts over the past three weeks, from investigators and two -year lawyers and defense lawyers.In yesterday's episode, I also spoke with a very famous defense lawyer.You know who he is, but I will not mention his name.

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Or, but all the medical experts, Every expert I talked to said that there is a 0 % chance that Patrick did that.Therefore, while I am in the minority, I am not alone in this meaning.Are all these people with me?Yes, I delved into that in yesterday's episode.So, if you ever want to know what Annie looks like when she is out of control, all you have to do is listen to one of these messages, and you can get it through Apple because it is not available on Spotify, but only on Apple by subscribing to Annie Elizabeth.You can see it directly on the Apple screen with your phone in the podcast application or on the Patreon platform as well.

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Well, some of the comments on that episode were few.Well, even we feel that the matter has become very popular now to the extent that when people ask me about it, I share my opinion of course, and even our friends think that it is Baterica.Mom, I know.Good.Let's start from here, then.Let's talk about what's going on in Clancy's trial.

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Let's start today.A lot of big things happened last week in the trial, and I would like to go into it before going into everything this week.Both of them presented to the jury a look deeper than Lindsay thought in the months, and even the days that preceded that wonderful night in January.First, The investigators showed their testimonies about a girl who wrote a letter to Nancy on her phone.She was constantly writing notes about her feelings and what was going on in her mind.Her reading was heartbreaking.

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You could have noticed that she was devastated and upset.She thought she was failing as a mother.She was learning that there were bad words.She just wanted to feel better again.In one of the letters, she wrote about her feeling of depression because she felt that she could not raise her third child.Kalani, in the same way that she raised her first two children, said that she felt a lack of connection to him after she stopped breastfeeding, and she said that she felt nauseous from a ball and a push because they prevented her from treating Kalani as her first child.

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I wrote.I am sad and depressed.I am sad because I stopped breastfeeding.I feel that I am not connected to Kalani now.I think I am kind of jealous of other children because they prevent me from treating Kalani as a first child.And I know that this is not fair to them.

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I know that.I used to feel very depressed last night when a ball and a kick came back from school.I want to feel love and connection with all my children.I may also suffer from internal conflict, because all my life I have wanted to give birth to many children.So, just realizing thatthis is not what I expected.

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I feel isolated, and I want to be the best I can be, and it is clear that this is not what I feel now." And before I go into more of her memoirs, this is related to something that happened this week in the trial.One of her colleagues stood on the witness stand and witnessed a day of work in the hospital, where Lindisi was a birth patient, where a sick woman entered, and her thoughts were tempting her to end her life.She was pregnant and was also thinking about ending her child's life, of course.Her colleague Lindsay asked, did you hear about Andrea Yates one day?Lindsay replied, no, and it's not strange.

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It means it's a very old story.Many young people haven't heard about it.It's not that Lindsay was very young, but she was about a decade younger than me.And when the colleague started telling her about the case, Lindsay started crying, saying, How can a mother hurt her children?As if you can see that she is really suffering from a conflict with everything you feel at this moment.At another note, Lindsay wrote about her fear of being bullied by her children, or that she may make mistakes that affect them and their growth.

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This reminded me a lot of Kara's stories.Yes, our friend who suffered from a brain tumor after birth and it ended with the end of her life.I felt guilty that what you do affects her child badly.And again, I will not go into many details because that is not the concern of anyone, but it is a wonderful and very real thing.I think this is very common with the ideas of my interview, where you think that you will harm the children or that you will do it in a correct way that causes them harm.Yes.

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Then there was also a note that was edited only one day before the death of my children.Lindsay wrote in it, the medicine stole my public and my life.foreign foreign Good.They were talking about how Patrick entered Lindsay's Facebook account, and how he was looking for ways to harm himself, and all these things.But this is what everyone ran after.When you analyzed what they were saying and what the evidence showed, it turned out that it was more like jumping the popular links.

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For example, if you were now looking for a Tupac trial, then he transferred you to a link about the firing of cars, then to a link about firearms, And what is the best weapon?And what is the silencer?And things of this kind.It is like taking you from one thing to another, and not an independent search, as if you were looking for firearms, or how do I get a silencer?Do you know what the independent search was?Yes, it was about the singer Tom Hall, who ended his life by himself in 2021, then tied the matter to all these other things.

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And immediately, lawyer Lindsay Redington opposed that.He said, Yes, the account belonged to Patrick, not Lindsay, and Lindsay was at a doctor's appointment in Dawson when this search took place, but it is very controversial and I do not want to discuss it.and not just the parts that help to enhance your novel.So, if you're going to talk about using it to account for your Facebook account, and that's the account and the search for psychological harm and all that, tell the whole story about how to search it to reach their own conclusions.Right.He searched for the singer, then it was a jump through popular links to different things.

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It wasn't a search operation on Google.So, when people share this on social media, you see it, and you believe it, and you repost it, and you continue to learn.So, I don't know.It's just one of the things I wanted to talk about." The advocate also presented a search process from Lindsay's phone, where he searched for, Can you socially isolate yourself?This happened three days before the death of the children.

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However, the defense pointed to the existence of other searches that the advocate did not focus on, including the search for halwasa on the 19th of January and the idea of ​​raiding on the 20th of January.So, some people think, or I think they ask the question, Do you think that she is socially isolated because of the ideas that she used to spread around her children?For example, can you treat a socially isolated person?Or some people say, of course, she used to know that Patrick, as if she was looking for that because Patrick is socially isolated.And the truth is that we do not know why I searched for that.And this is what you should say is also fair.

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The question is posed to both sides, but we do not know for sure the reason for her search for that.Isn't that so?The saying that any secret may be true, either she was talking about it, Or if you really feel that you can't treat it, would that lead to this?Exactly.There were also some normal research processes in that phone.Things like ready -made gift bags, and the best children's movies.

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And honestly,foreign which can go from very worrying things to completely normal things in a few days.And for the people who say that she was sending Patrick that night when he was in the CVS store with a smiley face and things like that, as if she was fine, she was happy, he said she was good, she was happy or anything, but she put on a smiley face.The active mind happens in a fraction of a second.I may be acting completely normal now while I am talking to you, and suddenly the matter happens.Think about that too.

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If there was an introduction to know that a person is in an active state of mind, I would not be able to intervene.You would be able to see that something is happening.This is not the case.And you can hide that in the clarity of the day.How many times in a state of psychological harm do you hear, I was with them the previous day, I talked to them to talk about me. I feel that this happens most of the time.If there were these clear signs, and once again to confirm your point, it would have been dealt with.

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So don't listen to what Lindsay told those around her about her mental health now, that's enough.And also to what she was writing secretly and what she was looking for on the Internet.So I ended the claim on his case this week.It was two o 'clock in the morning, and the defense is now presenting its evidence.So far, they interrogated Lindsay's mother and Patrick's mother.Both of them stood by Lindsay in this matter.

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But there was something really terrible that I saw when Patrick's mother was on the witness stand, where the public prosecutor simply said, and I repeat his words here, you are a Catholic woman, aren't you?So killing is a deadly sin, isn't it?He was trying to point out that this is the reason for her standing by Lindsay, because being a killer is a deadly sin.A really strange thing.What does that have to do with anything?Yes.

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And as you said, Lindsay's mother mentioned that she shared those messages.messages.She also shared how she told Lindsay in the kitchen, where she said that Patrick was also there, that she advised her to think about hurting her children.And there is something that really appeared, and I would like to say it.I am not trying to create an excuse for him.I have questions about him and I do not know if you have seen this.

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I talked about it a lot in yesterday's episode.Apple's clock recorded the heart rate during rest at 57 beats per minute.And the question was, if she was moving and killing her children, how could her heart rate be so low?She must have become really weak because of Batraika, and because the activity of her cell phone or Apple Watch stopped suddenly, and the health data stopped timing, then the activity of her cell phone continued for a moment.Like all these things, I don't know the answer to that.I know I was sitting on Erika last night.

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or not the previous night, but the night before it.I was sitting on my bed and I looked at my heart rate while resting on my pillow, and it was 68.Her heart rate was at 64.It is always rising, so 57 is very low, and they used to say that her heart rate throughout the day was between 80 and 90.So it's a big drop, for sure.I mean, my husband, criminally, his heart rate seems to be dead, even when he sleeps, I think his heart rate is about 44.

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I say to him, Are you okay?But here's what I say.I think this is a painful question.You can see how the heart rate has dropped to this low while it was supposed to commit these murder crimes and things like that.But again, more evidence is being presented.I don't know how all these things work, because if you take out an Apple watch, is there a delay in timing?

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Is there still a reading of the activity or is it just slowing down?I even know, and although this is completely different, But I remember that I had to stop wearing my Apple Watch while exercising because my scapula prevented the sensor from reading accurately.So, I never got accurate reading.So, I'm not a technical expert and I didn't bring an expert with me.She described that she remembers hearing voices directing her to do what she should do.And she says to her children, go to the Lord, my little ones.

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And this is not from that night, nor from after two weeks of the incident.I remembered this this year in her civic call.So who knows what if the heart rate was low when the body stopped working in this way, or when he tried to protect himself?I don't know.But I think it's a legitimate question.So I will grant TikTok users this right for a moment.

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It is a reasonable matter.So The defense team continues to present their case this week.I think they are still clarifying that this is a mental health crisis, and I do not think they are trying to say that it is not a crime.In fact, before I finish this part, let me say that at the beginning of the defense case, the lawyer asked the judge to declare her innocence.However, here the confusion continues.People think that he was asked by the judge Based on what the state has submitted, it has declared its innocence from the murder and all the charges.

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This is not what he said.He said that the state has now submitted its case because they believe that it is legally and criminally responsible for these crimes.They have failed in loyalty to the proof of that.Therefore, and because they did not choose the proof of that, it should not be presented to the Judiciary.You must find it not guilty because of its mental health or because of insanity.Or how do you want to name it?

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And this is also what I see mixing on people over the internet.For example, or he was trying to say that there was a false trial or the end of the trial.so she is not guilty.That was not the intention of the matter.The cat did not argue that she did not commit that.And even when the agreement was presented to try to separate the matters, they were convinced that she was the one who did that.

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And although it is from the artistic point of view, yes, it can be found not guilty.This is not what will happen here, because the trial is not to determine who did that or what happened, but to determine her mental state.That is why I also believe, during the rest of the defense case that they are presenting, that the method of interrogation, even with Patrick, will be very similar to what he had with the mothers, as he aims more to understand her mental state before and during the incident.The goal will not be to capture a moment, I found it.or create a reasonable doubt that it is not the responsibility, but to talk about her mental state when all this happened.It is clear that it is easy for everyone to get involved in this exciting trial, and they have their own speculative ideas, but at the heart of the matter, how do we prevent this repetition?

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And when you actually think that she told many people and was trying to get custody, I think this should be the focus of most of the discussion, because the matter is now turning into a real circus.And this is kind of what frustrates me. I mean, a lot of it.But let's just discover how we can help prevent this from happening again, because this poor woman, regardless of anything, did not get the care she deserves.So, well, at this point, it seems as if everyone is arguing that Bittreika did that, You are pulling the lights out of the danger of a brain after birth and its effects and results.With many people behind the story of Patrick and everything the husband has done, what will happen when another woman is judged after a year or two from now?And because talking about a brain is not easy.

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birth was sold out and the focus was on Batrayka So they can't take that experience, or what really happened, to deny Lindsay her ability to act, even by saying that she did it herself.I'm learning.Okay.That was the first question she asked you when this argument started.I said, okay.What is her reaction to all of this?

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Now her husband is the one who is possibly accused of a general point of view, and you are the one who admitted to all of this.How do you feel about all of this?And she clearly I mean, I don't think at all that there is a possibility that you will be denied her testimony, and you didn't talk about anything, and why are you doing that anyway?She is under trial now.You will not defend Patrick now or do anything that may affect the jury and make them believe that she was in a healthy mental state.But I will not be surprised if I give a statement after the end of this trial.

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Maybe you won't do it.I don't know.But this will not surprise me.Perhaps you are just trying to say that he did not do that.And can we talk about this annoying training belt?And how were people throughout the weekend posting a picture of his new wife in a forum saying?

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Oh my God, she is running and tying her training shoes around her waist.Oh, she is a sick beast.And so on and so forth.I say, first and foremost, zoom.It is a long shirt.You can see the hem of the shirt on it.

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And do you think that this woman, after her husband failed on what seems to be a complete crime and killed his three children to be with her?Do you think this woman will go out in broad daylight and run a marathon with this cup or as a reminder that my husband is out of a murder crime?I will link the murder tools or a copy of them around the loss and reward of this marathon.Understand the matter a little.Yes, I understand.It's a crazy thing.

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A big exaggeration.

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Good.The next issue we have an update on is the only one we talked about in the headlines two weeks ago.More details have emerged, but they did not answer many questions.In fact, the matter has aroused more questions.There are still many mysteries about this subject, and it is a matter of great concern in all respects.This is the case of a family consisting of eight people, all of whom were found dead in their home in Michigan after a murder and suicide occurred on the morning of July 24.

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To provide a quick summary, The first response teams were called to a neighborhood in Grand Haven at about 8 .49 a .m.after a person was reported to have smelled a smoke in the neighborhood.When the firefighters arrived in less than a minute, they were unable to identify the source of the smoke and reported that they had not smelled any smoke either.Then at 11 .46 a .m.

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, one of the neighbors called 911 after seeing a white smoke rising from a certain house.Of course, the firefighters returned and put out the fire.and found all eight members of the family dead in different bedrooms inside the house.Investigators have decided that they were all set on fire.But now, new details show that the fire itself was more deliberate than investigators thought at first.A firefighter from Michigan said that the fire was deliberately ignited.

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Investigators believe that Kiris Karajika, the wife and father of the family, is the one who started it by using gasoline, paper towels and a torch.The report mentioned that investigators found a red gas canister in the kitchen that still contained fuel, in addition to a torch on the kitchen island.Investigators also said that they found several suspicious points in which the fire started inside the house, and that there was one fire at least in each of the six children's bedrooms, and another under the cupboard.and another in the basement storage room.They also found partially burned paper towels and another completely burned, indicating the existence of multiple areas in which that fire was ignited.Some of those fires were extinguished due to the lack of sufficient oxygen, while other fires occurred in the basement.

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caused total destruction of the house.But there was something very scary.Investigators noticed that many of the smoke detectors appeared to be missing from the house, as one was taken at least from the main floor and another was pulled from the attic wall.that there are people who lit the fire in multiple rooms.He wanted to burn all the oxygen.He removed all the devices.

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So this was a clear and premeditated plan.And it's a terrible thing.I can't even imagine what's going on in the head of the man when he puts fire -igniting materials in every room of his six children's bedrooms.After the fire started to cover them.It's a sick thing.It means it's crazy.

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Yes.It's a mental confusion.Okay.Now there is also information about the dynamics inside that house.Remember that Chris may have been fired from his job at the American Heart Association before all this happened.And there was a lot of speculation that this may have been the reason behind everything that happened.

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But there was also a lot of talk about his marriage to Mandy and if there were any conflicts that pushed him to collapse.It turned out that there was something that happened years ago that people believe that he may have played a role in the mental state of Kiris during all this.Anmandy replied in an article called As One After Betrayal in 2024 about the alleged betrayal of Kiris to her with a trainer a few years younger.She said that if it were not for their children, she would not have worked to fix the marriage and that she forced herself to continue for the sake of the children, which is something we hear of course all the time.Important.I claimed that she wrote.

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was 10 years older than me.And after 10 years and 5 children, he was with the trainer again at the same age as I was the trainer.And she said, I used to say to myself, I love my children more than I hate my husband now.They don't realize that I protested that until we got over it.Wow.And it is a matter that is very expressive of the current nature.

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She also talked about her feeling of fear of the idea of ​​leaving because they have six children.And that there were big warning signs in marriage that she simply ignored.And this is important because Mandy's family said that she was actually very conservative about these matters with people in her real life.So if all this is true, No one in her life had any idea about what was happening.Well, this explains her refuge to Reddit.Because you know that people are always in Reddit communities.

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They exchange advice and share their ideas.Therefore, it seems that she was looking for suggestions about a community and advice or comment about her experience.But she used to feel very ashamed to talk to her family about that.And that's what I was going to say.It kind of makes me feel like I've always been wondering why there are so many traitors around.But it exists.

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And you've gone through the same experience, where you feel embarrassed to tell someone that this is happening.But at the same time, why should you feel embarrassed?It's more embarrassing because if you choose to stay, you don't want anyone to judge you.So if she wanted to stay for her children and she was going to tell her family that he cheated on her.They will say to him, leave him, he is a bad person, like these men.And if she says no, I will stay for my children.

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Perhaps she will not want to confront their rules during family gatherings.She will not want to treat him in a different way.This is my guess.I do not know for sure.I understand that.And there are also some unconfirmed claims circulating on the Reddit site of a person claiming to be the husband of Ankeris.

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This person talks about the possibility that Kiris lost his job, perhaps he was a defender of everything he did.This person claims that Kiris sent an email shortly before the murder of his family and his suicide, and that he reveals a lot about his mental state when all that happened.They claim that Chris said he felt as if he was living behind a wall and losing his sense of himself, and he thought that his children could not be happy if he could not financially support them.They said that Christopher's last words in the email that he sent to his sick mind seemed as if he really thought he was doing the right thing.It seemed as if he thought that his children could never be happy without the financial security that he provided for them.But again, none of these claims were confirmed, so we must deal with them as just claims, not as facts.

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Therefore, the timetable is still accurate and the motives are still to be investigated.And at this stage, The biggest question remains what we talked about two weeks ago, which is why did all this happen?And again, I mean, we have talked about this in many issues of family abortion, where we wonder why you feel that the only option is to eliminate the whole family.In this case, he is concerned about financial matters, but the children do not care about all that.But if I were to repeat, I could understand that it is in his character, the family, because he feels the burden that accompanies that.And I remember hearing or talking about the existence of claims It is also uncertain about the possibility of a dispute and that this is the reason for his eviction.

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Therefore, if this is the case, you do not have an income, but you bring shame to your family because of that.Not because this is justified, of course, but I can see how someone might get to this point in his thinking.Why don't you just hurt yourself?I agree with you.You feel good and free.But...

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Yes.Yes.This is the million dollar question.I really don't understand that.Yes.This is the million dollar question.

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But if you remember, in 2025, a defense lawyer said about Brian that he underwent a psychological evaluation and that he had been diagnosed with several disorders and disorders in mental health, one of which is monogamy.And because of that, they said that he should be exempted from the death penalty.I also talked, if you listened to an episode a few weeks ago, As soon as we learned that he was trying to withdraw from the Bill of Damages agreement and admitting it, about how they were going to re -issue all these specifications, whatever you call it, and I felt that it was a strategic way to claim that he was not fully aware of the Bill of Damages agreement at the time of its acceptance.But this is the current situation.It is clear that they rejected the unilateral identification and tried to say, slowly, because of this, the penalty of execution must be abolished, which is what the judge replied, saying, This is not true.This is not the case.

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It is completely impossible.But contrary to that, we did not have any other information.It seemed as if it came from nothing.But we did not know much.However, now, the psychological evaluation of Brian, which took place in February 2025, has been revealed.The evaluation was carried out by Dr. Rachelle Luson -Orr, a specialist in neuropsychology, who was hired by Defense as an expert witness to talk about his mental health.

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And when she was employed, Defense clearly stated that this assessment did not lead to the claim that Brian was mentally incapacitated to go to court or understand what he was doing.They did that in reality because they were in a big argument, back and forth, with the claim that if the mental health and developmental disabilities of Brian should be classified as mild or severe factors.So let's talk about this assessment.According to the documents, Ryan met Dr. Orr six times over the course of about three months to be able to conduct these tests and interviews.The first point that Dr. Orr noticed wasthe limitation of the facial expressions of Brian, indicating that he is smiling with an inactive smile, which you will notice in any picture of Brian, as he always appears with the same rigid face with a sharp gaze, except for that frowning and arrogant smile in which his teeth appear yellow and resemble the personality of the Joker.

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Or, but it often appears with those features that you know.The features of the serial killers.She also said that his smiles were often very light.His social smile was not completely consistent or absent.And that the way he used to cover his eyebrows during light conversations made things seem embarrassing sometimes.This is completely in line with everything we heard from the teacher's assistant and from the people who met Brian that he was a strange person.

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Yes, a scary person.She also mentioned that Brian had many of, as she described him, non -typical social behaviors.Things like lack of manners, and an unusual tone and tone when speaking, and an embarrassing reaction, and a general lack of smoothness in conversations.And it seems that he also lacked an understanding or a consistent understanding of communication.And often he did not redirect the conversations to his own experiences, and sometimes he gave strange or provocative answers to the questions.Then there was one detail that I think we all heard and know about Biryani now.

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Dr. Orr noticed that he sometimes enjoyed the news, a sharp look, and she also described his possession of what she called a defensive weapon during the evaluation, saying that he broke the rules during the tests and was in a hurry to accomplish a certain task.It's as if he thinks he's the one responsible, and he doesn't react to everything we've heard during his studies.It's interesting to note that many of these behaviors were not noticed by Dr. Orr alone.His parents and his sister described many of the same problems during their interviews with her.They said they tried to train Brian socially and gave him repeated social notes, trying to teach him how to behave in social situations.foreign foreign and abstinence disorder.

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But these were not the only characteristics that were mentioned.As Dr. Oren Kofberger said, there are four other characteristics in a somewhat past stage.The disorder of biological homogeneity, the disorder of uncertain depression, the loss of neurasthenia, and the disorder of atherosclerosis.This really surprised me when I read it.because we know that he was previously addicted to heroin, and that he was also suffering from a great increase in weight at some stage, and that he lost all that weight, and became obsessed with it, and that he was running all the time, and he was doing those night walks, and all these things in an attempt to maintain his flexibility and flexibility.But here I think that things may become interesting in the future.

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As I said earlier, Brian and his team did not deny that these characteristics made him unable to understand what was happening in the court proceedings.I mean, in reality, It was specifically in the agreement that he understood what it means to admit guilt.He was clearly teaching the dangers, but I can't help but wonder, because now, after we have this assessment that explains his history, characteristics, his developmental problems, and his family, which also says that he was suffering from these things almost throughout his life, I will not be surprised if a copy of this matter appears again during the process of asking for a reduction in punishment after the conviction.And that's exactly what I literally said a year ago when they started discussing the issue of motion sickness and lack of awareness.or the religious fanaticism, or the confusion of avoiding food, or whatever, all of these things.I said, or her, it seems that this is a way to prevent the coming or attempt to prevent the situation once again, mainly because he is not in his right mental state, or because he is not able to understand what he accepts or why before him, because he is socially embarrassed and all of these things.

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A sign of double censorship.And indeed, as we know, a few months ago,ago, the subject of reducing the penalty after the conviction was raised, which is essentially a preliminary measure to avoid if the expression is approved.And now the evaluation is being revealed, so it seems to be strategic and intentional, so I don't necessarily think it will be one of the kinds of arguments that say, I didn't know what to do, but I think it's logical to ask.At the end, can he say that, besides his mental health, it affected his decision or his ability to communicate fully with his lawyer?A kind of interpretation of the argument that there is no defense capacity.

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I don't think there is anything beyond Brian Kuhlberger at this stage.I think he's acting like a fool in prison.He can't be tolerated, and people threaten him.He thinks life will be more comfortable in the death row.Therefore, he is trying to do whatever he can, either to obtain complete innocence or to go to the execution line to live a better life.Therefore, we will only have to wait and see what will happen.

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So, do you think that the purpose of this assessment that his defense team insists on is his innocence?And it is a matter that will be wonderful from their point of view, or do you think that the main goal is to avoid him the death penalty?In other words, what will they argue about more than that?No, no, no.He wants the death penalty.Excuse me. I mean the search for the death penalty, because it means you have ADHD and suffer from eating disorders.

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This does not necessarily mean anything when we talk about the crime committed.True, maybe, maybe.I think he probably wants the death penalty now.I think that life imprisonment without the possibility of conditional release is a terrible thing for him, as if he says, I prefer a comfortable life in the ring of death until I am finally executed with bullets.Who gave me the gun.I was going to say, quickly, not in a hurry.

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Okay.The following issue has spread in the news, and I know that you have sent me and me about it.You know that the house of terror in Philae is very scary, so we will go into its details.This issue is full of emotions and transformations.am sure you will do a deep analysis of it.I am writing down my notes literally now while we are talking.

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Good.Excellent.Because this issue, I feel with every new detail, we always say this and I repeat your words, but every detail appears to make the matter more absurd.And there are also many questions about what really happened here.Good.On the 19th of June, a guard noticed a BMW car parked in an area that was not allowed to be parked.

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When he approached the car, he said he heard a woman in the passenger seat saying, you will hurt me.The driver was later identified as Eugene Horsch, 44 years old, and the guard noticed that both Eugene and the woman were suffering from injuries to their bodies.and their behavior was disturbing, which prompted the guard to suspect that they were smuggling drugs.The guard also said that he saw the smuggling of two houses, apartments, and multiple pairs of chairs around the front seat.Therefore, due to the violation of this stop, and what he heard from that woman, and the suspicion of smuggling drugs, the guard asked them to prove their identity.Records showed that the car was registered under the name Eugene.

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and claimed that the woman presented an ID carrying the name of Belir Tonsili.The problem now is that she was not Belir.It turned out that Belir was a woman who had been reported missing in 2023.The woman was told by the police that Eugene was the one who gave her that ID, and they were all arrested after that.The officers say that when he was arrested, they found his pocket on a flat knife and a glass bottle, and inside the car they found two loaded guns, one of which had a serial number engraved on it.and a blunt knife, and an electric staff, and a rope that can be tied, and a stick, and drugs, and a fake street to manage the fight against drugs.

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So this man was carrying a lot of illegal things.After arresting Eugene, the investigators headed to his house as a reminder to investigate.and found things that no one can explain at the moment.Inside, they found ammunition, drugs, and a marijuana plant that is estimated to be worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, and another gun.Then in the basement, they found what was described as a large amount of various chemical substances, including a 55 -gallon barrel connected to water lines.I don't know exactly what the purpose of it is. I was going to ask you if you knew that.

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Maybe to get rid of a corpse.If it was connected to a water line.Maybe it was acid.Or maybe to mix chemical substances.But I didn't know if it was related to explosives.Or I imagine it was to get rid of evidence.

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This is speculative.I don't know.More than 20 containers containing unknown substances were transported to a lab in Chicago for testing and analysis.Investigators still don't know exactly what those substances were used for.But officials say that if they are mixed together, it will be very dangerous.Therefore, it is clear that the situation is not good.

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Investigators also found a note written in the line of the hand indicating, as claimed, to Ted Bundy and Tariqa, hinting at getting rid of the gang.And here things really escalated.The police continued the search, and there is evidence of more than 600 ,000 photos and 70 ,000 video clips.and more than 10 ,000 pages of writings and manuscripts and drawings through multiple digital devices and hard drives.This reminds me of the Dugar case.Yes.

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Yes.600 ,000 images.On the first hard drive examined by the researchers, they found images and video clips from inside the house showing two women, Maribel Fresquias and Gabriel Amarando, and they both looked dead.But when the investigators found the identity of the two women in the images, The situation has completely changed, and it has become truly dark, because both of them have been missing for years.27, died in February 2018.Gabriel, 22, died in September 2012.

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and that they have not reviewed only 5 % to 7 % of the photos and videos so far.As for Eugene himself, he is under arrest for federal charges related to firearms and forged federal documents, and no charges have been directed against him so far regarding any missing women or any investigations into death cases.What is interesting is that he also has a long criminal history.In January 2004, He was convicted of violent assault and beating using a vehicle and was sentenced to two to four years in prison.Then, in February 2014, he was convicted of possession of narcotic substances and was sentenced to two to four years in prison.Finally, in November 2025, he was convicted again of possession of narcotic substances.

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So, this man is not strange to the criminal system.However, Eugene's lawyer made a very interesting point about the evidence that was found in the house.His lawyer says that Eugene's father lived there for a very long time, and he had an interesting past, to the extent of his expression.So I think this also clarifies the way of the matter.It is not his fault.And this leads us to Raymond Charles Horsch.

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Raymond was a filmmaker and filmmaker.But his works have been described as dark, and often do not focus on women in masochistic sadistic contexts.And for those who are not familiar with masochistic sadism, it is simply an extension of pleasure, often from a sexual thing.either through the pain of others or the pain of pain.And it seems that these pictures were about Wow women, sadistic and masochistic.Yes, there is another part of Raymond's history that becomes important here.

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His ex -wife, Amy McCooley, married Raymond and Amy from 2004 to 2008, and Amy disappeared in 2016.The house is now the focus of this investigation as a whole, and it is said that it was the last place where Amy McCooley was martyred.So, there are many missing women here, clearly.and they reveal all these pictures and scenes, all of which are very dark.Then we have the son and that mysterious woman who was in the car and had a ID card of a missing person, also another woman.And here the matter becomes, of course, very complicated and very worrisome, because the investigators are still working on this huge amount of evidence, and only a very small part of it has been reviewed.

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And so far, as we have said, these evidences have shown the existence of two women, it seems that they are the spark of life, and two other women are still missing.But again, no charges have been filed against Eugene for committing any of these crimes or missing cases.Therefore, the investigation is ongoing at the moment, and we will inform you as soon as it is released.But from what I read and saw, this was not the case.The police were there before, mainly because of charges related to drugs.So I don't know how accurate the investigation that took place there is.

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Or when they went to arrest him last fall for those charges related to drugs, did they have any other doubts?Because it seems as if if they entered the house, they might have found some things or at least asked some questions to continue this investigation.I don't know what your thoughts are about this.It depends on what was mentioned in the search warrant, and yes, on what they were actually able to collect and search for.Yes, but maybe this is the reason why they did not direct the charges against him.foreign foreign So why do you go to a place and park your car in an unauthorized place with the presence of illegal tools in the public?

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Is this only because you feel that you will never be arrested?Maybe.I think they feel that they cannot be touched to some extent.Well.I hope that the families of these missing girls will finally get some answers.Because I imagine that ...

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I mean, can you imagine finally getting some answers after all these years?I do not know.Well.Let's move on to another idiot in the list of Kiri Swartz.I don't think this name will appear anytime soon, but we need to take a moment to talk about it.The news began to appear last week, and I didn't need to pause, ponder, search, and know what is really happening here.

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But apparently, Chris Watts will become a married man again.He is going to church.He is going to church.Now, as a reminder, you all know Chris Watts.He is currently serving multiple life sentences in Dudich, Wisconsin, for killing his pregnant wife, Shannon, and his two little daughters, Bella and Cece.and his fetus, which was carried by his wife.

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It seems that he has now made a request to marry a woman he met while he was behind bars.I wonder what Nicole Kissinger thinks about that.Her name is Lizzie Henderson.Lizzie is 39 years old, and she is originally from Ohio, according to reports.She has been with us for about 15 months.In fact, she has visited him 23 times.

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And these visits are not just a quick tour through the glass, as you might think.Some say that they are direct visits, where these visits can last for up to three hours.So, some say that marital visits are not allowed in this prison in particular.So, these direct visits seem to be the ones that are allowed.movies or TV shows, where there is a room full of tables.You can sit across the table and talk, and sometimes you can hold hands, and maybe hug, and maybe not.

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But you can sit face to face instead of talking through the glass.However, as you said, usually you can only hug and greet at the beginning and end of the visit.and not throughout the visit, and it seems that she is very serious to the extent that she and her mother actually moved from Ohio to Wisconsin to be closer to him, and this is something I do not know how to explain, it seems to me very strange that the mother agrees to that, but if she is old and does not take care of her, she is forced to move with her, or does the mother support this?I do not know, I have many questions, as for Lizzie's identity, she has a real estate license in Wisconsin, But it is said that she is currently working in a retail store.And when Lizzie was asked about this relationship, she admitted that people may find the matter strange and shocking.Why do you marry the murderer of his family?

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But when she was asked how she met them, she said, How did things start is a matter between me and him and God.And we all know that Chris claimed that he found the Lord in the midst of all this.So who knows what is really going on?And it seems that Lizzie is not waiting for Kiris to officially become her husband to adopt his name.She has submitted a request this month to change her name secretly.These records are confidential, so we do not know the actual name she asked for.

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But slowly, I think we can all guess that easily.But relatives say that she was known as Lizzie Watts inside her family.Her in -laws also confirmed that she changed her name over the Internet to Lizzie Watts, which raises questions.Even if you were willing to marry him, why are you trying to take this title associated with one of the worst murders that the country has witnessed in recent years, even though it was filmed in a previous time of this month, while she was wearing a ring on her left finger like the ring of a ring.and a wedding ring with a ring on that finger.And here things get more strange and exciting for the inquirer.

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When Lizzie was asked about her feelings towards what Chris did to Shannon and the girls, she said, How do I feel about that?He knows.He knows what I feel about him.I don't know all the people involved, but I would like to respect them.What does this mean about hellfire?As the murder crimes described it as a harsh thing for anyone to go through.

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Harsh is a word that does not suffice for the size of the tragedy.He killed his wife, his pregnant wife, and his two daughters.Then he buried his two daughters in an oil well and buried Shanan's body.I think this is more than just harshness.This is more like selling.What are you talking about?

50:35

This is not the first time we hear about women interested in Chrissy Watts while he is in prison.There has been a kind of strange fascination around him for years, and we have talked about this phenomenon before.This has happened to people like Pandy, Brian Cooperger, and Wyatt Wilson.These men are accused or accused of heinous crimes.However, they develop us in some way in groups of amateur fans who tempt us with them and make us fall in love with them.They defend us from them.

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They believe that they have misunderstood them.They think that they are the only ones who can change them in some way.And I think this is the obvious question here.Is Lizzy just another one of these women?Maybe.But what is interesting is that Chris had received messages from several women before this relationship.

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51:24

According to reports, An Inquirist source said that he started by replying to the messages because he felt bored.He had nothing else to do.Then, with the beginning of the distinction of some women and his attention, he continued to communicate with them.And in the end, according to this source, some of the exchanged messages became bold.The women began to send him pictures, selfies, and things for them with underwear and things from this tribe.The person summarized the matter by saying,

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There are many women who think that Chris, Simon and Moses understand him.And because he is in a safe and unloved prison with the other prisoners, the messages have become his main breath.In other words, he sits in prison, feeling bored and does not find what to do, while the women send him messages and photos, and it seems that his arrogance consists of that.And frankly, When you look at the situation from this angle, you wonder about the extent of the real communication in this relationship, as opposed to being just a barrier to this void and a smoke to his arrogance and providing a companion for him because he feels very bored.Let us remember that this man will never get out of prison.He will spend the rest of his life in prison.

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However, after eight years of killing his wife and daughters, We are now talking about the possibility of Chris becoming a wife of one of them again.And this is a terrifying thing to think about.So, don't send me a list of gifts because I won't go.Is it allowed to take naked or bold photos?Not completely naked.It's just a bold kind of bold.

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Anything.They should not be allowed to have photos or any of these things.And they should not be allowed to marry.Yes, but I mean.And what will she gain from that?Perhaps it is a reality of true love.

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By the idea of ​​marriage from Kiri Swartz.It is an illusion and you think you really love him.But let's assume that he was the most wonderful person in the world and not in prison.Rather, in another place he will never come out of it.Why could you marry a person you can never have a real relationship with?If you think it's real love, I don't know.

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It's crazy.

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I know.It's crazy.-depth investigation of his family's murder on the 102Life channel.Then yesterday, through Apple or Patreon, where I talked about everything about Lindsay and Patrick Lansi.So, you have a lot to watch at the end of this week's holiday.Well, thank you very much and see you in the next episode.

54:09

Keep the smoke detectors.Keep the smoke detectors fixed, and let's see what will happen to Brian Kochberger.Yes.Good.Goodbye.

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