DEMO RUNTUHKAN DPR, PASHA UNGU MENJAWAB KENAPA DPR BERJOGET . (FERRY IRWANDI-PASHA)

It's a tribute to respect, right? So the respect is with the tribute, right? So we don't have to respect it anymore, right?

What is said about the tribute, which side is it from? Oh, additional tribute, sir?

No, no.

Then what is said about the 3 million per day?

I said that, where did you get that calculation from? From the representative of the DPR head himself. I didn't get it. I never mean to blame anyone, it's purely because I'm happy. So if you say that because of the DPR government, it's not working, especially if it's being divided, don't. It means it's working with more money. Okay, yesterday, according to a netizen's accusation, because I was accused of being a buzzer,

buzzer, they said, the issue management was accused, bro. Discuss the DPR I came to the DPR people, Mr. Asia Ungu

a little applause

we immediately challenged him with the representative of the community Terry Irwandi he just live discuss the DPR he said the DPR is like this

let me explain first actually the anxiety that you caught from the whole

what is it? in Indonesia there is a political triumph I'll explain it first. What is the real concern you have from the whole world?

Let's hear it first. In Indonesia, there is a political style. In democracy, there is another adjective, the stratificative. We've talked too much, so we can't be so tense.

We try to be calm, but there must be content. So, actually, what we are talking about here is the increase in the the income of THP for these members of the parliament, which of course when looking at the current economic conditions, we cannot expect that everyone will accept it positively. Or more straight to the point, maybe 90% of Indonesians see it as negative.

The rest are either members of the DPR or outside family member of the DPR, which is positive, which is in the middle of a job field, mismatch, skill issues like this and some problems faced by the community it is not something that is popular and will get positive sentiment, especially again there are so many things that are actually still worried and still demanded by the public, not yet achieved, we need good news that we get, oh, the debt of the members of the DPR is increasing, etc. There are also a few more, like the name of the debt of respect, right?

It means that the respect is using a loan, right? It means we don't have to respect it anymore, Mr. Pasyatin. The debt has already been borrowed, so don't ask for it again, the most respected member of the council anymore. Actually, it can pass, but there is a domino effect that arises because of the response from the disappointment of the community. For example, if the community is upset, just dismiss it. A grumpy institution, just dismiss it. Don't think too long.

If it's like this, just dissolve it. Don't think too long. If it's like that, just dissolve the DPR. In response, it made the society more upset. Oh, the people are stupid and stupid who want to dissolve the DPR. Oh, greeted by a denomination like that. Mahmat Shahroni was said like that.

How if we dissolve the DPR? Which is actually if we dissolve one institution or we freeze it, it will cause fascism. Because in Indonesia if we separate one institution or we freeze it, it will cause fascism, the other one. Because in Indonesia it happened in the Soekarno era at that time,

the ends are also not right. But this is an expression of the disappointment of the community. We should be responded with nice. Or for example, we still have jobs, show the job, don't get triggered because such criticism second, maybe nuance meaning that the community is full of hope they are represented by members of the council for example, the constituency of Mr. Fasya

we hope when we see Mr. Fasya there our voice, we have a problem when there is a song, a song from the area, then they dance, then they are packed, left, right, left, right, plus the issue of rising, people are angry, people are angry, people are angry, and actually that's normal, in the dynamics of politics or public communication, it's we should just respond, oh, this is because we appreciate the local songs, blah blah blah

so it's done but I'm sorry for the response, it's actually done not that it's made a sound hall right again not Mr. Pasha, right? one side but

oh, I've turned it

we listen to Mr. Pasha's explanation first actually what I want to hear, sir. Actually, what you know about the increase in the loan, what does it look like? This is what I want a more detailed explanation, more accurate. From my brother, Ferry, who said the increase in the loan is from which side? I feel as a member of the TNP, there is no increase in the number of loans this year.

So actually the statement is that there are no loans?

Yes.

More loans? Not yet.

Then what is said to be 3 million per month? I said that, where did that come from? Why didn't you give it until there was? You have to ask me, of course, Ferry asked, find out where, in Gali. One loan, respect has been there. the Which one is suitable? Okay, hold on, I'm done. So, the rental of the house has been there? It's been there from the beginning.

It's been there since the beginning. Same thing with the transportation and communication rentals. Including the ones that are being discussed, the rental of the office, the contractor's house, it's been there. But, it's been there and

Since I was appointed, I got it in the first month we worked. So yesterday it was not, oh, it was increased, right? No, if I'm thinking, I came here earlier, I thought, 3 million, where is 3 million from? Well, that's yesterday. It came out of the Deputy Head of the DPR itself, sir. Maybe like this, okay, like this.

The public assumes there is a language of 58 million. Okay. What is the name of the loan? House. Okay, don't what's the name of the house, the house, the members of the DPR, maybe it's divided by day. Oh, if 60 million is divided by a day, that's about it. Okay, I didn't get it.

That's it. I didn't get it either. I didn't meet the numbers either. That's why I'm confused. Where is the 3 million per day? Let's ask.

Now there is.

No, I thought it was just a data, where? Because we are representatives of the public, I am a representative of the public.

I am inside.

Okay, that's the point. I'm inside, you know better, right? I don't understand this, I'm a representative of the public, what I see on TikTok is people dancing, salary is 3 million per day, right? Yes, it was confirmed through an interview,

we should have a salary like this because the boarding house is 3 million per day if all the narration we talked about the increase that is not there, so where does it come from? that's the question

actually in the presidential decree it was also said that there was an increase or at that time it was compared to the BUMN, which wow, this DPR must also be the nananinu.

That in the future there is hope, whether it is remuneration, loans, etc. It is expected to enter the DPR territory as long as our taxes are sufficient, there is no problem.

So, Mr. Pascas, you are.

If it has to do with the state decree of the President, I am there. Yes, yes, yes. president. I'm Bukado Gini like it has a direct and I can't believe it. I'm gonna start a perception. Oh, yeah I'm gonna feel about what I'm gonna be and they better has to move. Kadiri Turkic critic my side to the other muscle Silla can say I think it's a little bit of a tool. It'll be so nice Sodara kooferi that I'm in the body of researchers and BKSAP. But no problem, we can communicate. This is a communication school.

What is possible?

That's one. The second, I have to explain first, because if I see this, this issue started from jogging in Bumbui about 3 million. I'll explain first about jogging. Not about defending the DPR, especially about what it's called, because it's a party. No. We're all there.

580 members of the DPR plus the DPRD. Like the public sector. The MPR. So, there are our friends who then pretend to dance there with other friends,

especially across the party in my opinion, it was spontaneous because there was music being played on the second floor by the brothers of the University of Defense there was someone playing music and it was included in the event

included in the run down?

bringing national songs it was considered like that there was entertainment from Unhan national songs. It's considered like that. There's entertainment from Unhan, national songs and so on. Based on that, the spontaneity of these people is dancing. I have to give a note to my brother, Denzo.

DPR is a representation of the people. DPR is not alone. We stand to represent many people. We are sharing our own pillars. I am from West Jakarta, North Jakarta,

Pulau Seribu. This is an aspiration, even though our task is national. That's it. What I want to say is this. What's wrong with representing the people

in this matter, my friends from the DPR, being happy because the state's state decree is very complete, very complete. What is the content of the decree? Ten months of his work, everything is amazing. He talks about hillarization. Today we know, Bang Densu, on average, if we talk about the economic potential, it always starts from the city. Well, through food hill food literacy, through cooperation, it means there is a potential for the economy to grow in the corners of the village.

It grows in the villages. And all this time, in quotation marks, it has been neglected. All this time it has been neglected. We are talking about the economy, the center is in the city. That's what was talked about at that time? At that time. Not to mention about free food.

It was only 2 million. Only 2 million. But the goal is to reach the target that was reached by Mr. Prabowo. Minimum next year, for example, 10 million. Then increase to 80 million.

Okay, two points.

Free food, for example. What else? Legal enforcement. Okay, point three. Legal enforcement, sir. There are two things, right? The law enforcement is related to what people say,

the term law enforcement is only sharp to the bottom, and blunt to the top. The fact is, today, sir, you see it yourself, right? The information in the media. I just got caught. That's his body, sir.

Yes, but I just got caught. That's it. His body was caught. This is proof that Mr. Prabowo is on track about the enforcement of law, not to mention the violations that actually affect our physical Yes, I'm sorry, illegal mining, corruptors, our friends inside

it all affects our physical There is no loan there There is no loan there? There is no loan. That's what Mrs. Maharani gave an explanation. It was annulled by Mr. Dasco yesterday. It's not the news of Mr. Dasco anymore.

It's not the news of Mr. Dasco. Mr. Dasco said yesterday the information was incomplete. One. And the second, there is no additional loan. Except for what was said earlier about the house contract this house contract is also, Mr. Ferry

600 million that was granted by the government for one year for the house contract for 5 years which is 600 million if divided by 5 years, how much is it? around 120 million 120 million per year

the question is, is it normal for 120 million per year we contract a house is it normal?

is it normal?

no, this is answered first it means that the community is not angry if the lady has said that

that's it

it means that even if there is a good news after it's not the people's fault who are upset because they hear that unless there is no official statement that there is a rise in taxes, the people are angry maybe we can blame the people for not understanding but the fact in a situation like that there is that language that will be repeated means that the people's anger cannot be considered without reason

yes I understand, the term is what comes out of there should be from one door.

Yes.

So that the door is clearly structured. But if you say this here, then you add this here,

the people who are guest lighting are not friendly.

Yes, I didn't say that.

Yes, yes.

I didn't say that, so it was straightened first.

I didn't say that. I didn't say that. I didn't say that. I didn't say that.

I didn't say that.

I didn't say that

people are wrong with their attitude. I didn't say that. That it affects the community to be angry. We can understand it.

Because there's information that is confusing. Even though it's been straightened, yes. So I thought, Mr. Densu is a top artist. Oh my God, you're a legend. My friend started when he was young.

I mean, the term doorstop, the term press, we are used to facing it like that. I understand. No need in the political world, we are in the world of... what? Entertainment. I'm Not the angry people, we have to be aware That's a positive reaction, but there are some friends Sorry, that's getting

Uh, a slap I don't have to say the name, right?

I just want to say the name

Is there anything you want to say? Is there any problem there? I have never had a personal problem Yes, yes. Public officials, yes, it means there is a public responsibility. There is a public responsibility.

That's why there has never been a personal attack or anything. But on the other hand, my criticism at the beginning was consistent, actually. There are popular and unpopular policies. Yes, we are in the government, all my mentors said, yes, the name is in the government, it must be like that. And it has also been in the government, it must be like that, and it was also in the government, so I know what may need to be evaluated from our legislative or executive,

the response is that, the response from one demand or criticism actually what makes it even bigger is like I said earlier, for example, it is said, why is this dancing, it should explain it we are doing it like Bang Passy explained it just relax

don't be too hard on yourself

we understand the first thing we have to show is the criticism is heard we understand but the context is like this it's not making a sound

that means there is an underage I mean, I agree I mean, this is it Sometimes there is This is for the sake of society So I also feel like I don't have a personal problem

I also feel like this is the wrong framing Someone wants to work on him Or he doesn't understand If this is actually sensitive Don't understand that he's actually sensitive. Don't go there, please. Well, that's when the dancing in Empire,

Mas Fasha himself didn't blink. I have a question first, did you not know the song at that time? Or were you thinking about the electricity bill or what? because you look so serious you were nodding and I was like, this is just a token

you were thinking about it and it became a line

but it was positive

I was surprised too I was almost invisible I could still be a point of view because I saw it until there was a message I was almost invisible, but I could still be a point of view. Until there was a message, sorry, until there was a message that Pasha Ungu couldn't stand DPR and backed off.

That was a FYP. Until you were framed as having left DPR. It felt like that. Mr. Denso, it's hard for us to enter DPR.

Suddenly you want to leave. We were looking for a reason to leave, but we couldn't find one. Mr. Denzo, it's hard for us to get into the DPR.

We want to find a reason to get out, but we can't. We want to find a reason to get out, but we can't. Mr. Denzo, look at how I went down every day. You know, the campaign and all. And I'm pure, sir. I don't have any importance.

I really just want a part of my life to be useful. Yes, to contribute to society. That's the first thing. About the silence, it's just a few seconds or minutes of video.

I'm dancing. So you don't need a camera.

I know there's a camera. We already know there's a camera. Why do we have to be always aware? Because suddenly, the spot can appear can appear on the wide screen. Because it's not funny if the president sees it. So we are, I personally, I'm not talking about me personally, always be careful.

Don't let it happen when you apologize. Especially sometimes, it's very cold inside, sir. Sometimes as fresh as we are, sir, it can be sleepy, sir. That's right.

That's why you need to move, Fer.

You're a sloth.

In my opinion.

You're a sloth. Sometimes, you're not.

No, I didn't mean that. But, let's be open-minded. What was said by Mas Ferry earlier, Mr. Eko, that there's... I didn't know

Eko, as he is called He dances, and makes a sound like a horrex, right? That's what he said What I know, he has already

told the public He apologized He said, there was a miscommunication, because there is action, there is reaction, right? He is like that, suddenly the community reacts and he responds again, for example, maybe

yes, he responds again, whatever the reason, I think we are both adults, right? We are both adults, we both admit that if this is considered as a misrepresentation, yes, we admit that this is a misunderstanding, this is a mistake. But if the spices were 3 million per day, I haven't found it yet. The number hasn't been found yet. If it's about dancing, I don't mean to blame anyone, because the dancers there are not only Mr. Eko, not only Mr. Uyang, there are many dancers.

Because I see it myself. It was purely because of the joy of Mr. Prabowo's pedato. It was amazing. If you could repeat the pedato of Mr. Prabowo, it was amazing. What was the main thing that was caught? The success of the government program for 10 months was amazing.

Some people said that we could be a bridge. About food, for example. Finally, in 10 months we have a surplus of 3.9 million. Okay. That means, first of all, we don't need to import anymore. Our domestic needs are met.

We can even export. If there are countries that our neighbors need, we can export. Positively. Positively. And others. State of law.

Including the military. You know, we... You are a military, right the military, the military chief always talks about the state's defense. But the summary is positive. But there is a note, actually one of the triggers, not only dancing, is the increase in taxes. I think, as an ordinary person,

I see the events at the party, that's the most shocking event. Because the tax increase is up to hundreds of percent, 250 percent. So, Mr. Densu, the country's regions can move

based on our income. But not 250 percent. the the the the the the the the we talk about the potentials that can bring higher regional income

and also for the region, right? Maybe the party, maybe the party, I'm not too deep about the party but maybe the party is considered there is no other way to speed up regional income because the program is so big, so many, the promise promises are still so extraordinary how to solve it? One of the fastest is tax.

But tax is not impartial. As for me, I'm a bad guy, I was the mayor of the city. Yes, that's why I'm the mayor, right? That's why you were successful at that time. Why can't one policy not go through a process? Yes, and socialization. Socialization, important, and socialization. Socialization is important and not just for the sake of it. For example, we will tell the shopkeepers,

the academics, even the religious leaders, all of them will be invited to the head of the religion. We will have a plan like this. We will build this. We don't have money.

We have to find a way like this. How to build it? Something like this. Even that will be given a deadline. the That's how it is, so our heads are still like that. That's why many people miscalculate. It's considered miscalculated. Yes, sir. If the number is 250%, it's very difficult, very big,

especially for the people below. That's what eventually made people satisfied, right? Well, this trigger, in my opinion, so it's everywhere. Because it hit several other cities.

Finally, it reached yesterday, I saw it was crowded, people were brushed with eye drops, shot with that, the ferry was following the demo. This is just back, sir. Is it true that you followed the demo yesterday?

Is it true that you followed the tour?

So, first we have a problem with the PATI. I can explain a little. This is good. Let's try to structure it, so the one who went up in the party was PBBP2, PBBP2 is the number of NGOP increases well, the math of the increase in NGOP is calculated per regional team each, well in the party 14 years did not go up so the party team arranged each region like NGOP is different, so let's go straight first 250% is the height from the ground each area is different, for example, this is the area of ​​Pondok Ginda

the language of the bay is like this, the area of ​​Pondok Ginda and Bekasi is different, the JOP is different, the per meter is different after it is arranged, a new JOP is created in each area, land and buildings So if the increase from 2024-2025 to 250% then it was cut by about 0.42% Now bigger than 250% for example, today your NGOP is 1 million tomorrow 3.5 million

it means that 250% is increasing it means that hit the cut 0.42% not 0.42% 0.42% if it turns out to increase 400%

the hit is smaller the percentage 0.39% if it can be higher, the percentage can be 50-60% when the increase is not or the increase is 1, so in the table it is more than 250%

yes, that's the PBBP2 rule when the PBBP2 is hit, when in the area that the increase in NGOP is up to 250% more than that, they have to pay even a smallercentage but the value they pay should be more actually I can say like this that is a regulation that often happens in areas, in regional governments, adjustments like that often happen and the number besides the party, there are many more fantastic areas, 1000% there

I have read it now we try to identify the problem. Why is it so angry? Why is it so kiss? Back to the DPR incident yesterday, the public office response, oh, even challenged back, if 50,000, don't be 5,000, 50,000, you come here, I won't fire you so this is about response the worst part is, sorry bro, I don't know the point public communication in a government like this, legislative or executive, what we feel is the PR, how to respond to the public, talk to the public, that can be said, if the value is a red point

quote unquote lack of empathy. Lack is still too good. No. There is no empathy.

No, there is not.

Even necessary.

This is a constructive input.

Yes, it is a good input. Representatives in the public are actually people who can talk with empathy. Yes, this is a problem in the government always appears like that, actually in the case, side to side, there are some programs like the TKDN relief, it's actually good, for the consumer it's really good, but communicated in the wrong way, talked in the wrong way and responded in the wrong way, what's the matter?

Bang Pasha once became mayor, maybe in the prime of his life, when he was in the demo, he said,

go here, you guys, 50 thousand.

No, no, no.

That's a lot.

Yes, 100 thousand came, right?

If I were you, I would dare. Just yesterday, his son was beaten up, and immediately he was released.

The daring fool.

We have never faced a demo. Yes.

In Kota Palu, we have faced a demo. Okay. demo. In Kota Palu, we've faced a demo. I'm sorry, but it can be checked too. In 2016 to 2018, before we had the tsunami, before we had the natural disaster, we've faced that. There were various issues at that time. But I did agree with D'Ferry that sometimes our response to the actions or reactions of the people is also important.

It must be more wise. So, don't because it seems that this era is too open, you are free to speak, because being free to express your opinion is not only for the people. The public office also doesn't feel that I am also free to express my opinion. I am part of the people. The government officials also don't feel it. I also have a free opinion. I'm part of the people. So, this has to be put down. That's why controlling ourselves is the most important thing, actually.

I really like that. So, that the DPR is also not perfect? Yes, we agree. Everything is not perfect. Everything is not perfect. But if the DPR is considered unemployed, I'm sorry, I disagree.

Why? Bang Jensu, if the DPR is considered unemployed, then the whole program of the government is not running. Because everything must go through the DPR's investigation. But this is not self-defense. There are many DPR employees.

Indeed, the working pattern is pattern is different from the government.

The executive.

It's different. We don't go to 9 to 5, we don't go to Mudendang at 7, and go home at 5. We can do it. Last night, we just finished the RU Hajj until 12 PM. What was the result? Well, it was already announced yesterday, the problem with the city. Someone said that our waiting period for the pilgrimage is too long.

We have been in the village for 49 years.

That's too long.

That's what we have been focusing on in the 8th Commission. We are looking for a solution. Meanwhile, the city is limited by the government. We have been talking about this. I have seen it several times. Alhamdulillah. That's what we're trying to do. Including the Hajji's leaders, the Hajji's officers, the region's Hajji's officers.

It means that the DPR is working. We're a collective, a collegial. But in general, we're a member of the DPR. So if you say that the DPR members are not working, let alone being dispersed, don't do it. Don't do it either.

I agree, if it's a demo, it's okay, yes, I agree, if it's a demo, because a demo is a form of the people's limitations, but the demo doesn't end with anarchism, anarchism means I don't have to be the one who demonstrates anarchism and don't have to be demonized in the demo, yesterday, there were quite a democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy, democracy bad things happen and all kinds of things, because as bad as the DPR bird is representative means what we have to do is criticize really criticize what should be done and not done so is the executive especially for people who don't have an interest or something

weird, so actually if you look at the difference between today's demo and the previous demo if the previous demo, the medical point is clear the medical point is clear the logistics is clear, the people are also clear if the demo yesterday, we were also confused honestly, we were on the field not to

to have a conversation or anything like this, who is this? the question we the question is usually like Indonesia Gelap RUU TNI, I always have it, Indonesia Gelap, RUU TNI, MTA, MTA, all kinds of it's a group of groups, a collective group, there are one by one and they really agree, okay, we make the team here, the action must be like this, this, this, this have to say this because when people ask why Bang is more This is weird, we know the pro government accounts, some pro government accounts are supporting this demo

happens accounts that used to it always slanders us because when we ask, oh, there should be a reviewer for RWT, then we said, eh, it should be MK and MA, don't be like this, the decision, or it should be PPN 12% we were like, wow, it's really over, in the final of the account, you know, the buzzer account, all kinds of that's the account, suddenly this account

suddenly provokes people to go down the street street which actually there is no group or collective group to prepare all that do you see that?

everyone

as if they are not well prepared yes, but it doesn't mean that everyone who goes down to the demo are the ones who are grouped or coordinated or all kinds there are those who come there because they really express their disappointment to DPR yes, but what triggered it was the question well, it's weird, there are no groups

in the past, every time there was an action or something, the poster was organic it means that the poster is a challenge or a design, there are no people who will play AI or there is no, suddenly there is like this is the code AI or there is no one who suddenly has this code Prabowo for the people who are angry at the DPR, it never uses the narrative of friends who have been fighting all this time, it never happens, so everyone is surprised, what is the trigger? We know the DPR must be appeased, we know the DPR must be criticized,

and we know a lot of wrong responses and we are very angry and very disappointed and upset but people who are well educated know, not to separate yes, because there is one narrative that I quoted that BEM and also BURU did not go down, they said it was true usually students, civil society officials or workers and that's big, so it's clear it's clear this is why we monitor

until night, there is no medical location I also heard that 28th will have a demo sequence the issue, do you hear the issue? we hear

we hear too, but usually we already have more accurate information not yet But usually we have more accurate information.

Not yet.

Not yet, right? The question is, Ibu Puar Maharani made a statement that the DPR door is open if you want to talk. But yesterday she said the door was closed by concrete and spray. There's oil.

There's oil.

So what's the point? This is about the method. I'm sorry. We've heard that there's an effort to compost the DPR. There's an effort to fertilize the DPR.

But the Narcissus is already negative. The Narcissus is already negative. Why? The DPR is in our language, an object of vital. We have to take care of it together. The DPR is a vital object. We have to protect it together.

Because it's not just a pet. It's a nation. Because of the orientation of the demonstration between the narrations that were said by Ferry, for example, as if he wanted to cover up the DPR. So the DPR has to prepare itself

to ensure that the demonstration goes well. they want to cover up, then they have to prepare themselves in that sense, to ensure that the demonstration goes well. But if it's colored with the previous attitude that is then excessive, even there is an anarchist tendency, this is how we want to talk, if the color is like that. But if it comes, for example,

there is the administration, what is it called? The procedure, we send a letter to the aspiration board, we are from the ferry group, want to come there for example, please, no problem. But if then there are thousands of people, I don't think it's necessary. They are the people's representatives, they are the people's aspirations. And we, from the statement of Mr. Pasha himself

that where the narrative comes from, who is waiting for it because in the end people like to argue like to argue well, the thing is in the demo era, there are many times that genuine it's annoying, we monitor it

okay, I can express my aspirations I'm as angry as the DTM members but on the other hand, the so-called mass action always has the potential to be turned left and right a lot well, actually the solution is easy our members of the council or our legislative should create a situation where they are not in the demo well, that's actually simpler if they really work, I'm sorry to say, but if people really work well, I don't say they don't work

but if the performance is good, don't be sure, of course not in the demo, unless there is another interest second, don't be in the demo people can accept, oh yeah, this deserves to be better better payroll, don't give a chance to be fooled it means to work better that's the point, in my opinion

and communicate well now, work well, okay work well is how we frame and communicate it I think every commission has their own way. But when there is a resistance from the community, how do we counter that resistance from the DPR?

That's also with empathy. If the empathy doesn't come out, the community will feel left out. While the DPR leaders are their choice. There must be a sense of ownership.

Yes, yes.

Yes, in the end, they are disappointed. And we have to understand that they can be disappointed. If I may be open, Mr. Adenso, the more people come, sorry, we are in the political world, right? We are actually focused on the electoral.

The more people come, the more people we help, that's good for us. Both personally and collectively. Because we also need legitimacy. Oh, Ferry works. Denzo works. I come, I deliver my plan, I deliver my aspiration.

At least it's accepted first. The question of what the execution will be like, that's the second thing. But it's accepted first. As Ferry, you're good, right? Something first as a ferry, it's good to have a good phone, right? Well, DPR is like that, sir. But there are momentum that maybe, like before,

suddenly compared to this case, linearized with that case, so that it seems like a negative performance that emerged from DPR. It's like, no, sir. Again, I don't defend DPR. I don't defend the DPR, I don't defend the organization that I run now.

But if then, as if because of the value of a point of milk destruction, we also disagree that there is an assumption that the DPR should get more in the middle of our economic situation, which is more is difficult for example

then suddenly there are 3 million per day I'm also confused I was looking for information earlier I'm looking for information, opening all the news, maybe I'm left with the news where did this 3 million come from? 3.3 I even saw it

yes, it means that if every day 99 million 100 million yes 100 million 100 million

where did it come from?

the data is 26, that was the day From where? From this house Well, if the data you got, Fer, where did it all come from? Yes, until Mr. Wakil himself said 3 million per day x 26 days, 78 million Yes, there is talk like that That's the representation of the DPR itself, I mean the leadership of the DPR So actually, back again the communication problem

and you have been settled yes and there is also a statement, yesterday I had a statement, I don't have to say the name, a woman, our friend too, who happened to be a member inside the one who said, this is a problem, right? well that statement is finally a mess yes, 50 yes I mean, a demo, a problem, you know? because people are like this, like me yesterday, that's. I mean, it's a demo, a massacre. You understand, right?

Because people are like this. Like me, yesterday, I raised the issue. Don't raise the issue of the Lendirmulu case. Raise the issue of our country is in this state. I thought it was right. I even thought about it.

Then I checked where this concern came from. I agreed with Ferry. Why? Because the reaction that comes out of the society's anxiety is like mafia. It's not empathetic. It's not that I blame the person.

I'm sure every individual has a plus or minus. That's actually the biggest note. This is a note for us, a statement for us. DPRL as a public figure, we have to be more careful. We have to be more careful in giving statements, in talking, especially in the public interest.

We have to be careful. And honestly, what happened, sir, all of that in the WADPR group, is it already chaotic in the market? It's crowded, sir. Is there a live group yet?

Suddenly a live group. Yes, we all have to take care of each other, be careful, be careful. We have to be careful. I'm sorry, but is the chaos in the market crowded? It's crowded, sir. Have you got a live group yet? Suddenly, a live group. Yes, everyone has to take care of each other. Be careful, there's a demo today.

There's even already... If the demo is placed here, later, sir, where will it be broadcasted? That's already discussed. Because for security, right? Not because of fear, but for security, not fear, but security because the one who receives it is in the field

so not all of a sudden, there are members of the DPR there there is a demo, I go out like that, it's not like that, there are people can be hit by a blow, there is a body that receives it that will be a distraction, a practice

maybe at that time, one of the public complaints was like Bintaro Senayah is in trouble so we need additional money. Which actually, I as a rocker, a year-round train group, Pondok Ranji Jakarta Pusat Honestly, it's been years since I've been on the KRL, but I'm really upset because I know it's really was a report from Bintaro I had to go to Tanabang first If I went to my office, I had to go to Juanda I went there a few times

For that reason, we, the members of Dewan, had to work If Bintaro Senayan I mean, we worked every day I was a PNS, I worked from 7 to 5 I had to wake up at 5 in the morning.

But you're not going out, right?

Because I can't get up in the morning.

I understand, he chooses another way. Now we just have to get to the bridge. From your own experience, if you catch from your own community, do you want only that or is there more? So that it is accommodated. The first thing in our society, we know that the aspect of anger is one of the things, the fire is already there

and finally it is flushed with bad communication. On the other hand, it's actually more like this, because I was in the government for 10 years, sir. And coincidentally at that time I was in charge of PR and HUMAS. I always say that as a government, we have to know that our job is not to keep a good image, because a good image is a causality of the work we do. If done correctly.

Yes, what does it mean? We have to be able to tell the truth, what is the truth, without having to hide the other party. Because we are civil servants, civil servants mean public servants, with the team, with the junior, with the team that I led at that time, always said like that, so when people are disappointed and they criticize, it's something normal, but when we work well, they don't appreciate it It's okay, because it's part of our job Because we are paid for it

This has been executed So I want to ask, give me a suggestion Suggest a fairy for this business so that it doesn't develop further What action it be taken? No, the government officials always say that public speaking must be good, that's not a problem, but one more thing that must be good, the listening, the ear is too thin sometimes, and finally the thinness of the ear results in a bigger problem, this is from my expertise in communication. Secondly, from the legislative itself,

is it actually all that? Is it unthinkable, sir, if I am a member of the DPR now? I don't know, maybe we talk too much. The DPR has been for years, especially since the reform, the DPR has never been an institution that is liked. Well, in this period, have you ever thought

once we become the DPR? The one liked? I'm not a If the asset is too political, it's simple, protection of the house, for example, the house I agree again, sir, asset breach, sir If we are on the principle, as long as it is good for the country, good for the community, there is no problem And the DPR loves the community very much If you don't love the community, the first thing, the program will not run in one There is no such thing as a revision of the Constitution in accordance with the current era.

There are so many things that actually, if we want to remove the DPR, there are so many things that are very useful for the people. There are so many, sir. Try it once, and you must go to the DPR. I can go straight to the DPR. Because the problem is, sir,

the lack of communication bridges in the form of framing where we can see it positively what the public catches are negative things that finally come out I quickly heard this earlier negative statement it means that there must be something to be fixed, this is a reminder for us, sir, this is not a joke. Because there are victims, right? There are victims of material, right? People who are passing by, suddenly their car breaks down. And it's a pity. There are people who don't know the situation, suddenly become victims.

We can't take this as a past. Don't be biased. And honestly, this is enough to be discussed in the DPR. I'll just hold it. So don't think that we're just a single DPR. No, it's not like that. But that the DPR also has to protect itself from the security aspect, that's also important because there shouldn't be anarchist attitudes in the HDPR area,

something like that. Yes, it's important that there is no path, but the path is then, please, be fast-responsive. Because I'm afraid that the path will be through here, but not fast-response. In the end, the bureaucracy that is happening is what is also affected. There are two things that I note from the Ferry today as a representative of the public. The first is how we respond.

How we respond to the reaction of the community. We don't have to give up. We have to listen a lot. Be patient. The older ones have to be more patient. Like how you taught that person to his son.

You have to be patient. The second is, you have to have more empathy empathy, sympathy to see the situation that is happening in the society today so I think

sorry sir, if I talk to the team the salary you pay is for this job the one who is doing the service that is the cost of the salary that APBN this country gives to you.

Well, that's what I know, the sense of belonging of an institution, we work at an institution, we're tired, you know, our friends, our peers, we make a blunder, for example, oh, I'm the one who's cleaning up, but yes, the responsibility is what the members of the DPR really have to understand. I'm sure there are many like Mr. Fashil. I mean, Mr. Fashil himself, I also learned some of his statements

supporting the increase in teacher's income, supporting that, all kinds of things. There are many and not one or two like that. But at the end of the day, collectively, there are problems here. There are problems that really make the society clear. In addition, there are other elements, other additions that make people more ... Trust issues.

Yes, trust issues. Even though, we have to remember that the members of this council are constituents. Which we actually know that they have hopes which we all know they have hopes they choose because they have hopes if this is not considered then

people will not join for me this is like a marriage there is a communication problem do you know that the number of voters

the more each voter

the less

and we don't want that.

Because you're from the people. If we're going to be rough, they say you're paid by the people. The hope is that the communication is good. Because marriage is about good communication. But don't let the communication end up with no empathy.

Don't let the communication look without empathy. Don't let the communication be seen as a narrow-minded person. Don't let the communication be seen as someone who doesn't listen or care. That today we have to continue to be united, that's a commitment. This is a challenge, a step for us to be more united. Because our job is to monitor the government. The DPRK must be monitored by the people because we represent the people.

So there is no problem. The attitude of the people if there are actions that are considered not representing the people. And it's normal, there's no problem. And I personally say that the DPR is working. The DPR is working. DPR is working. Today, they are working.

But if there are points that were made into a record of the people, how can they do that? All parties have realized it. They have apologized. We hope that this won't happen again. Don't prolong it.

If it's prolonged, where do you think the worst thing could go? There are many dynamics that can happen.

According to the mathematical calculation?

If it's still resistant between one party and another, and there is no improvement, it can go to health. Meanwhile, politics and economics are always connected. And that will harm us all that's why stability needs to be maintained where executive and legislative are also related to the problem of the party we know the majority

from which side where the executive affairs come from

it should be more synchronized

Thank you very much, hopefully this is an education for all of us Thank you, Mr. Zibid, thank you, Ferry I have this permission, bro the last message Thank you all, thank you Mr. Jimmy, thank you Ferry. I have one last thing to say. Maybe it's hard to do, but apologizing won't hurt anyone. Sometimes people are too hard to do it, and then they end up making a bigger mistake.

Everyone has made a mistake. The problem is, first, has everyone ever felt they were wrong? Actually, something as simple as that can be very powerful. Okay, I'm wrong here, I'm sorry, I'll be better.

That's what our representation is always like.

Okay.

Is there a closing word or is it already closed? Is there a closing word or is it already closed?

It's already closed.