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Hello, everybody.Welcome to the United stands.I'm Mark Goldbridge.This is your latest Manchester United news and transfer news, the start of another week.And I've got to say, Quite a lot to get into.Sir Alex Ferguson left, would we have had a different pathway if we'd gone with Mourinho over Moyes, we might have time to talk about that.

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But also do really want to talk about this morning about the, well a massive disappointment actually.Had a quick look around the news outlets, social media, certain other United content creators and nobody mentioning what for me is quite frankly disgusting.a member of the Man United fan forum who has basically resigned and given a very, very thorough, detailed insight into why they've stood down, and basically calling out Ineos, Omar Barrada, and everybody else.And I think that, you know what, you get a lot of people talking about how it's negative to be not happy about this summer transfer window, but in plain view, 4K, Manchester United season ticket holders of years and years and years have been suspended and the way that the football club has treated the fans is factually disgusting.Still no protests, still no removal of the glazers and still people backing this ownership for what, their own, you know, what they think they're going to get out of it.Do you think they think United are going to ring them up and say, oh, thanks lads, here's a kit.

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You know, it's disgusting.We will delve into that because it's quite abig statement and it really does out things like Omar Barrada is a nice guy, but he's not a fan of the football club, which is something many of you've said before.We have these soulless people in power at Man United and they're not Manchester United people.They are business people.So we will delve into that because I think it's very important that as United's biggest fan community and also only community that seems to say how it is. I think it's very important that, you know, we do talk about those things.

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But it is a new show as well.So we will start off with the latest transfer news, because I know some of you very interested in this.So, look, last night I got messaged about Rahm, Philip Rahm, isn't it, of Leipzig, left back.

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Apparently the athletic have linked Manchester United to Rahm this week, and I think a lot of people would like him to sign for Manchester United.

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So look, Rahm, first and foremost, as somebody who sees a lot of the Bundesliga now because we have the live coverage on a Friday night through That's Football, But a lot of you will know who Rahm is anyway.Didn't actually play in the World Cup because the goalsman went for Nathaniel Brown, but very, very good left foot.28, very experienced, tremendous energy.The Bundesliga is probably the league closest to the Premier League.

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In fact, I would say the Bundesliga is more intense than the Premier League at the moment because the Premier League is very stock start and the Bundesliga is not.

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The referees get the game flowing there.So I wouldn't have any concerns about like the Italian league to the Premier League.I think Bundesliga to the Premier League, physicality, intensity, speed, you'd be absolutely fine.So yeah, look, if Man United were to go and sign Philip Brahm in these last three weeks of the window, I would be very, very happy.He's played with Sesco before.

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He puts brilliant crosses into the box.I think when it comes down to it, we need a left back who can play a left back and Luke Shaw is not a left back anymore in my opinion.Plety Gol, who's a Sky Sports journalist from Germany, funnily enough, has said that the release clause is around £30 million.It's David Rahm, not Philip Lahm.Sorry, I'm getting mixed up.It is Monday morning.

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David Rahm, not Philip Lahm.

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We would love Lahm.David Rahm from Leipzig is who I'm talking about.I would love this signing to happen, but unfortunately, as I've just realised his name's David, it doesn't matter because we're not linked to him.because this is what happens.People don't bother anymore to do their homework.

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So you see on X from a United aggregator that Man United are in for David Rahm, and it's from The Athletic, and people get really excited and start talking about it.

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You then go to the article where it says it in The Athletic, and it's an opinion piece.It's an opinion piece.There is no link to Manchester United at all.It also includes Miranda from Bologna, who is also a very statistically good left back for Bologna in relation to going forward.I think it mentions Gutierrez of Napoli as well.But it's an opinion piece.

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It's basically an athletic journalist talking about who might work well as a left back for Manchester United.

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So we are not in For Rahm of Leipzig, it is just a journalist writing a list of left -backs that Man United could go for if they don't get Lewis Hall.

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And there, end of the lesson, I suppose, because we have got three weeks to go in the window.We do not have time to be talking about signings like we would in February when the window's not open.I mean, I literally did a video in FebruaryMarch.I found us a left back and gave us five left backs.It's about as relevant as that.

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We're not in talks.We're not we're not signing Rahm.So yeah, I sort of woke up this morning.And it's, you know, I find it incredible.

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But yeah, there is there is nothing there with that.So I would be very happy with Rahm.Look, I still just add something in a little bit positive.I was doing a little bit of research this morning, actually.I didn't shit the bed, I was just up early this morning.And I was looking at the left -backs across the top five European leagues last season for most crosses into the box, because I think that sometimes football is so simple.

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You put a big guy up front, he'll score your headers.

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You play with two centre -backs who are fast, you can play a high line.You put Bruno Fernandes in number 10, he'll create you loads of chances.Football's really simple sometimes.So I was like, well, who puts the most crosses into the box from left -back in Europe?

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And I was looking at it and not surprisingly, Stuttgart's Mitzelstad is number one.He puts in 5 .5 crosses per 90.Not surprisingly, DiMarco is number two, 5 .3 at Inter.

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But number three in the whole of the top five European leagues for crosses into the box in a Fulham shirt, not a Man City shirt.And what I mean by that is Fulham are not fast flowing, attacking football.You know, they do have to defend a lot as well.He's Anthony Robinson.is the third best fullback in the top five European leagues for putting crosses into the box.And I just think sometimes forget the past sports, Luke Shaw can't play left back anymore.

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If you bought Anthony Robinson, he literally will get forward and put crosses into the box.Now, obviously, there are other things to think about.price, injury record, age.I take all those things on board but I do think that sometimes the answer is staring in front of you and there are options out there that we can go and get who will massively improve us.I just think at the moment we don't have a left back who can actually get forward.

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And asking Luke Shaw, I mean, look, I'm not Luke Shaw's biggest fan at the moment as a footballer.I used to like him a few years ago.I just don't, I think he's past it now.Availability is not the ability I'm looking for.I'm looking for availability and talent.And I want a fullback who can get forward.

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Luke Shaw at 31 is never gonna get back and forward like you need to in the modern game, twice a week.He's just not going to.So, look, we need a left back.Let's see what can happen.What I think is going to happen with the transfer window is that we're probably going to do next to nothing this week.That's my theory.

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I might be completely wrong about this, but I feel that because we're in Dublin and we've got the game on Wednesday and we've got the game on Saturday, I just feel that when United are on tour, nothing happens.And I think that although we've not really been on tour, we've been playing games and coming back to Carrington, the fact that we're in Ireland and the fact that a lot of other teams are on tour as well, I don't think we're doing anything this week.I don't.I think whenever we do something, it will be probably next week.I don't think anything is going to happen.But what I did want to say is, and I want to read this out and not get misquoted on this, because I think it's important.

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So Andy Mitton, Athletic, Man United fan.Is he a journalist?I don't know what, you know, respected.He said money is an issue.They need money.There's money there, but I don't think you'll see stupid money signings because the money is not there, which is sobering.

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Now, I don't know whether that's a mistype because I've read it a few times and I don't really get, I think he's saying that there's not a lot of money there because he says, money is an issue and they need money.There's money there, but I don't think you'll see stupid money signings because the money is not there.which is sobering.

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So I think what he's saying is there is money there to do some business, but there's not big money there to do big business, which is quite sobering.There's a couple of weeks until the end of the window, and I think we'll see activity, we'll see sales, loans, and traditionally there's been a lot of activity towards the end of the window.I think we'll see that again, but I cannot predict who that's gonna be.They've got different options, and there's agents coming to the club all the time.So it just sounds like I mean, that's not breaking news.I mean, a lot of this we know.

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We know that we can move on Kone any minute.We know that, you know, we could move on a Sanderberg.You know, we could move on a lot of things.It's chaotic.It's a mess.It's a shambles.

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It's pathetic.The fact that, you know, the fact that you can read something like that and, you know, United are assessing their options because loads of agents are coming to them.This is not how to run a football club, by the way.You don't sit there with less than half of your business done assessing agents offering up their players in the last three weeks of the window.I mean, this is just really not the way a big club should be behaving.You shouldn't be sat there taking calls from agents saying, take my player, take my player, take my player.

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It's desperate.It's desperate on both parts.I must say it's Emily Derry FC because she says it all the time.We've had 12 months to prepare for this transfer window.We knew we needed a new midfield.We knew we needed a left back.

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We should have come into this window knowing what we wanted.We shouldn't be sat here with two, three weeks left going, oh that agent wants to do this, shall we do it?It's chaotic.But what absolutely does need to get called out, and I'm not saying Andy Mitton should call it out or the Athletic or the Manchester Evening News, each to their own, it's absolutely fine.If you want to believe the myth that Man United are putting out there, that's absolutely up to you.If people want to call out the club, that's up to them.

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If they don't want to call out the club, maybe there's a reason for that.But money is not an issue for Manchester United.I would argue this with anybody and I'm happy to have this conversation with anybody.So when I hear things like money is an issue and they don't have big money to spend, well, money is not an issue at Manchester United.

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I mean, we can all go through the books.Money is not an issue.The revenue is there.we can comply with FFP and still spend 250 million pounds.So money is not an issue for Manchester United Football Club.Now, anyone who wants to jump in two -footed and go, but, but, but, but, but, but, this, that and the other, I said money is not an issue for Manchester United Football Club.

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Manchester United Football Club, it remains one of the richest affluent football clubs in the world.Its revenue is incredible and its revenue capacity is incredible.

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12:55

Breathtaking, because we have such a big fan base that if we were successful and we powered it properly, we could make even more money.Money is not the issue for Manchester United Football Club.The Glazers and Ineos are the issue.

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Man United could spend two, three hundred million pounds this summer transfer window.We know we won't, but we could.So how can money be the issue when we know we can spend that?it's there, it's in the books.Man United could spend two to three hundred million pounds, the revenue's there, the capacity to do it is there, we probably do need to do it if we're being honest.The reason

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is an issue is because the people in charge do not want to use their own money and want to use our money to service their private debt and also probably build a stadium.So money is not an issue.And it's really important that football fans realise this, especially Manchester United fans.We can't sit here and say, well, we can't afford to buy players, because if you're doing that, you're basically a glazer because you're basically saying we can't spend our own money because we need to pay the glazer debt.That might be true but it doesn't mean you have to sit there and justify it.

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Manchester United as an ambitious football club could have been a lot more ambitious this summer.They haven't been because our owners are business people and they want to continue to use our club's money to service their business needs.And that's why money's an issue.But I don't like it when I hear like money's an issue and Man United can't afford to do this and Man United can't afford to do that, because that's not the truth.The truth of the matter is Man United can afford to be ambitious.Man United could have afforded to compete for Elliot Anderson, Mateus Fernandes, Chumini, whoever.

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We chose not to because our owners, who have the club by the balls, decided we're not going to spend big money because we want to spend that money on our own things, like debt and other things.So don't allow yourself to fall into that trap of justifying a pathetic transfer window by saying to yourselves, we couldn't afford to spend money.Tottenham have just spent hundreds of millions of pounds finishing fourth from bottom.If Tottenham can spend money like that, Man United could do it in their sleep.The reason we don't do it is because of our owners.And there's always it's always worth just digging below the surface because it will be

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I was having this chat with a journalist over the weekend and they said I would not be surprised over the next couple of weeks if the big story for Man United is financial restrictions they can't spend big money but that will be a myth because they can spend big money personally they don't want to because they want to use that money elsewhere it's very different to say it's like saying to your dad I want a ps5 for Christmas and him saying we can't afford it He probably has got the money, he just wants to buy something for himself.So in his mind, he can't afford it, but actually he could.He just wants to spend the money on something else.That's exactly what Man United are doing.We have got the money to spend on transfers.We just want to spend it on something else, which is very different to saying we haven't got the money.

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We have got the money.We just want to spend it on something else.And that's the bottom line, whether people like it or not.So when you see journalists or anybody else trying to justify a pathetic transfer window because we haven't got the money, we have.And there's two different stories.It's very different to say we haven't got the money to we have got the money, but we want to spend it on somebody else.

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And it's the latter.

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It's the latter.

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Dino says if if Hall's head drops this season because he didn't get his move to United and he has a poor season and ends up being benched, would you still pay the 70 million next season for him?No, I know.I know what you're referring to.You're referring to Belay, but no, no, it's got nothing to do with like if you try and buy a player for 70 million pounds, and you don't get them.

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And then for the next season, they're absolutely shit.You don't buy them because they've just shown to you that they're not consistent.

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They don't have the right mentality.You don't go anywhere near them.It's what you call a lucky escape, Dino.Mark, for United signing world -class players, is that the question in these owners?Seems like Spurs will be ahead of them.this season, says Mr. Agro.

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And Marlo says, you and Terry have completely different opinions on the window.Could you make a video where you discuss it?Would be interesting and enlightening.No, mate, because I've done that type of content before.You could get me to sit down with Flex or Well, Howsam would never do it.He's a coward.

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But, you know, you could.There's no point in sitting down with another content creator and having a back and forth.It's a waste of time because I have a back and forth with you and I respect you a lot more than I respect any other content creator because you turn up every day.You're part of my community.I don't trust other content creators because I think they're doing it to try and feather their own nest.And ultimately, I've got nothing to say in a debate with somebody about protecting the Glazers because I know what I'm saying is factually true.

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We have got the money, we're just not spending it.And I've listened to some of the stuff that Terry's said and Terry's argument is we shouldn't spend, we've got to stop spending big money on players because we've done it in the past.But I disagree with that.So where's the debate?I disagree with that.You know, I respect your opinion, but I disagree with it.

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You're basically saying I'm not going to the cinema tomorrow to watch a different film because I went to watch a film yesterday and it was shit.Also, where's the pathway to success by not spending money?There isn't one.So Man United should stop spending money on big players because we've made mistakes in the past.

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It's not spending the money that's the problem, it's the mistakes.Look at your mistakes.Spending £75m on a winger isn't the mistake.Spending £75m on Jadon Sancho was the mistake.Spending £90m on a winger is not the mistake.It's spending £90m on Anthony that's the mistake.

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You know, spending money is not the mistake in football.It's actually the path to success.Look at Chelsea, look at Man City, look at us under Sir Alex.Spending money is a proven pathway to success.United seem to have manipulated our fan base into thinking that we can't spend big money anymore because we made mistakes in the past.Anthony for £90m was a mistake.

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19:35

But it wasn't the £90m, it was Anthony.Sancho for 75 million was a mistake, but it wasn't the 75 million, it was Sancho.What if we'd spent that 75 million pounds on, I mean, I can't remember who was available at that time, but Dembele, you know, what if we'd spent the Antony money, 90 million pounds, what if we hadn't spent it and we'd spent it on Alise the next year?You know, it's about your scouts.It's not about how much money you spend, it's about what you spend it on.It's laughable how brainwashed some of our fans are that they think we can't spend big money anymore because we made mistakes in the past.

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Kieran says, what was the big news that was supposed to happen last week but definitely happening this week?Well, Kieran, it's happening tomorrow, so I'm not going to tell you today.What are the chances we stretch this window out early tomorrow morning, Kieran?What are the chances we stretch this window out right towards the end and end up with two very underwhelming signings, says User66?Well, good morning, sir.Hope you're doing well.

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I don't think we're going to do anything this week.I hope I'm wrong.I don't think we're going to do anything this week because we're on tour in Dublin.We've got two games.We're not in talks with anybody.I don't think anything happens this week.

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I think that We will probably start doing stuff next week.And we'll have two weeks to do it.And I think that the chances that those players are going to beare probably quite high.I mean, look, we could still get Kone.We could still get En -Media.

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We could still get Alex Scott.We could still get Bergwald.We could still get Stiller.And these deals will have to happen at some point.But on the other hand, you're right.It could be really underwhelming.

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It could be that left back I've never really heard of from Santander and Sanderberg.You know, it could be.We're basically trying to be a wheeler dealer at the end of the window.Just get Sam Allardyce in from the Bolton Daces, Emily.Do you think it's possible we buy nobody else as Charlie?Look, this is topical, right?

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I saw this today.Let me know your thoughts on this.If I could put it up visually, I would do, but sometimes I think words speak louder than visual.So this is the squad.Let me shout, register call, did it, on X. So the squad is this, Le Mans in goal, Dalot back up.Masraoui and Dalot back ups on the right hand side.

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Shaw and who, we don't even know, on the left hand side.So the left back's an absolute fucking nightmare.We've got Shaw and God knows what else.Centre -backs, Heaven, Maguire, De Ligt, Martinez, Yoro.So centre -backs, we've got five.Midfield, Tillemans, Meunier, Santos, Mount.

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Not good enough because Mount's not good enough.So midfield, as we know, not good enough.Left -hand side, you've got, well, actually, you could move Dorgu to Shaw, couldn't you?So you've got Dorgu and Shaw at left -back.Kunja and Rashford on the left, if Rashford stays.Mbemo and Abad on the right.

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Bruno, and Mount slash Lacey as the 10 and then Sesko.It's weak because, all right, I can say that N 'Bermo and Kunja and Rashford can cover Sesko, but they're already Kunja and Rashford on the left and N 'Bermo and Ahmad on the right.So yes, N 'Bermo can play where Sesko goes, but if Sesko gets injured and you play'Burmo, and Ahmad's on the right, you haven't got a right winger, if anything happens to Ahmad.And if you put Kunya up front, because something happens to Sesko, and Rashford's on the left, and something happens to Rashford, you haven't got a left winger.You can build the squads however you like, but it's very, very clear when you write it down on a piece of paper, left back were fucked, midfield were fucked and backup striker were fucked if we get a couple of injuries in the squad.

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So look, if the chances of us doing nothing, of course, there is a possibility.But if we walk into this season with the holes we've got in midfield, left back and up front, then, you know, I feel very sorry for us.And then Michael Carrick.

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because it's the fans who suffer, isn't it?Do you think it's possible?That was from Charlie.Welcome to the members club.Dirty deeds, devil, big stuff tomorrow morning.It's not just I just want to make this very, very clear.

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If you are a member of the United States Members Club, you will obviously get something tomorrow.But being a non -member, you're still going to get something as well.So I just want to make that very, very clear.Morning, Mark.Just read the post from Luca Black of the Fans Forum.Absolutely daunting stuff, dark days ahead.

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Well, if you hold on real Tyrone, we're just about to go through that as well.

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Max says Ram is an absolute shithouse.Bring him in.Thank you very much.But we're not in for Ram, by the way.It was just an opinion piece.British Royal Mapping says, Hi Mark, we can't bench Rashford on 325k a week and Kunja isn't a left winger.

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So why not make Kunja compete for striker with Cesco and put Rashford and Dorgo on the left wing and then Birmo stay right wing?You could do that, still need a left back though.

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And Art Areola says that, have you ever seen a similar situation as Rashford at any other club?

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More importantly, have you seen examples of players who've been managed to forge a comeback after such a fall from disgrace?Um, thisis where I default to our amazing community.Is there anybody that's ever done a Rashford before where you basically get rid of a player, they want to go, you want them to go, they go away and then 18 months they come back and then you pretend that you love each other and everything's normal?There has to be an example of that.I mean, Sancho did come back for a little bit but then we got rid of him.

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I would suspect if this has happened it's probably happened to a smaller club I would imagine It's the sort of thing that, it happens because the club's got no other choice, basically.They're not powerful enough to do anything about it.They can't pay off the contract.They won't let him go on loan.Man United have brought it on themselves, basically.We could have loaned him to Barcelona for another year and not took the 25 million.

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We could have loaned him to somebody else, but we just got obsessed with getting a transfer fee.I personally think, and I've not heard anybody say this, We got rid of Rashford on loan because we didn't like the wage.So we're getting rid of him on loan.We're not paying the wage anymore.You're saving 15 million a year.And they don't want him at the club anymore.

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And he wants to go.He wants a fresh challenge.So win, win, win.He goes to Villa for a bit.Then he goes to Barcelona.So for 18 months, you're not paying his wages.

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Everybody's happy.Barcelona play a bit of hardball.And I think United thought Barcelona were just playing hardball.And I think Man United went, well, we want the 25 million or we'll take him back.I don't think United ever thought we were going to have to take him back.And I think Barcelona went, we're not playing hardball.

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You either let us have him on loan again, or a cheaper transfer fee, or we'll move on." And I think United went, huh, you're dealing with United here.

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Coxsey!And I think that United didn't, I think we played, we basically, we got it wrong.

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I don't think for one minute we thought we were going to have Rashford back paying his full wage.I think we thought that we were playing hardball and we'd end up getting a good deal.And it's blown up in our face.So I think United fucked up.I think they thought that there would be offers for Rashford and they'd be able to get a decent one.And ultimately, even when Barcelona pulled out, I still think they thought someone else had come in and they haven't.

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So they've ended up playing hardball and it's a little bit like having a Ferrari on your drive and somebody offers you 80 grand for it and you think it's worth 120 grand and you say I'm not taking 80 grand and they go it's a final offer and you think well they will increase it because it's a nice Ferrari and if they don't someone else will buy it they walk away buy something else no one else wants it and I think United if they'd known what they know now I think they'd have done something with Barcelona but you can't it's too late now isn't it in fact The whole window, if you could sum up Man United's transfer window in two words, I think too late is probably a very apt word.There's another two words, fucking shit, but I think we've left everything too late.Liam Devon Red says, I saw the agenda against you on Twitter yesterday and tried to stick up for you and got shot down.No wonder we fail as a fan base if we aren't United.Mate, I didn't even see this.I thought it was a joke last night.

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And I you know what I do try and avoid toxic Sunday You know it's it is toxic on a Sunday, but I was actually on X yesterday quite a bit I thinkSo maybe it's just what you get fed. I have noticed on X though, if you look at a certain topic, like if I look at Barcola, my timeline will get full up with Barcola stuff.So I do think the way X works now is if you're on a certain topic, you will get fed loads of stuff around that.But I didn't see anything yesterday.And look, as I said last night, it's the beauty of, democracy and free speech, that people are entitled to their opinions.I haven't really got a...

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Funnily enough, for somebody that seems to raise a lot of conversation in certain areas, I really don't care if people watch the show or not, or if they follow me on Twitter or not, I don't mind.As I've explained many, many, many, many times, my negativity, in my mind, is actually positivity.I have standards.Manchester United should be fighting for the title every year and we don't.If your standards are that we should be fighting for fifth, you're going to see me as a moaner because I think we should be fighting for the title.

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That's the standards I set.But I don't make any apologies for that.My standards are different to yours.Welcome to the world.

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Forza has gifted five memberships.You're a legend.In fact, 10, I think Forza is gifted this morning.So you're an absolute legend, sir.Thank you very much for that.Right.

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I want to talk to you about this now.It's actually quite funny because you I mean, the only thing I would say about that previous comment about people going for me on X is I would love to know what they're going for me for.I would imagine guessing it probably is always negative.Yeah, hello.If I'm swimming in shit, I'm gonna say it stinks.If I'm in a lovely pool with lovely surroundings on a hot summer's day, I'm going to say this is a great.

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Trust me, when we were winning things in the 90s and the noughties, I didn't used to moan about my United team selections or transfers.I loved it.So yeah, I think it's, I think it is shit at United at the moment, and I'm not gonna not say I think it's shit.But if you don't like my opinion on Manchester United, I think this is one of the best things I've read in a very long time, and I intend to read it to you, because I think as United fans, I was so disappointed this morning, and I'm disappointed in these people that call Manchester United Myself and you and anybody else that calls out this ownership negative because they need to read this and then they need to look at themselves in the mirror and tell themselves why they're so positive about a football club that gives no shits about you or The identity of this football club because they don't they're running us like a business How is it negative to call out this ownership who aren't Man United fans and don't care about this football club?

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How how are you now branded a negative person?for calling out the worst reign in Premier League history of a football club.It's abysmal.And this transfer window is pathetic, but it goes way beyond that.Way, way beyond that.

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And if you're going to call people out for being negative, is Luca Black negative for putting this open letter out as to why he is stepping down as a representative on the Man United fan forum?He says, I joined the fans forum at 15, having applied when I was 14.It was around the time the Glazer family had finally broken their silence and claimed they wanted to repair the relationship with the fans.Ed Woodward had just left as CEO.My first ever meeting, Joel Glazer joined online and I was too nervous to say much, but I think I was left thinking it might be a promising start.I want to be clear about something before I say anything else.

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This is not an attack on the people I have sat alongside on the forum.Every fan representative I've worked with has given up their time, unpaid, because they love the club and it's the supporters.I've been welcomed, trusted and treated with respect by those representatives.This letter is not about them, it's about whether the forum itself still has the power to do the job it exists to do.There was a period when I believe change was possible.When Richard Arnold became CEO, he did something his successor didn't.

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He sat in the room with us every meeting.Fan engagement genuinely improved.We spoke about cheaper concessions, more youth season tickets.It's also where the Youth Supporters Club came from.Born out of a week of work experience, I did with the club's fan engagement team.That scheme doesn't exist anymore.

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Small wins may be crumbs in the grand scheme of things, but they were real and they mattered to the people they helped.My hope, I grew.I believe were finally being listened to as fans.Then Ineos arrived and it turned out to be a lie.Before the deal even closed, we were sold a vision on a team's call with Sir Jim Radcliffe.I was sceptical given his history.

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but I told myself I owed it to the fans I represented to give it a fair chance.Everything that was promised fell apart.The club staffing was destroyed.The bi -weekly meetings where we used to talk about initiatives, growth and events stopped because the people we spoke to were too busy firefighting to have those meetings.What gets called revenue growth has in practice looked like penny pinching and it has cost the club creative and commercial opportunities it will never get back.I don't think they've understood that yet.

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In the last meeting, I told our CEO exactly where I stood and it changed nothing.I said to Omar Barrada directly, I don't care if we spend 400 million in a transfer window and win the league.If I can't be in the stadium with my friends and family because they've been banned or priced out, it doesn't matter to me.So basically this is to do with the removal of Man United season ticket holders, which has happened to thousands of people this summer.And it was said to Omar Barrada by Luca, a representative of the fan forum,I don't care how much money you spend, and they haven't spent it anyway, or how many titles you win, and we won't win any, if I can't be in the stadium with my friends and family because they've been banned.

34:45

I told him the club needs to shift the balance to being fan first and let us help make that happen.He listened.I don't doubt his intelligence and he can be warm on a personal level, treating me with respect whenever I've spoken to him.But he is not a supporter of this football club.He is a businessman whose seemingly only measurement of success is revenue and results on the pitch.Nothing in his response gave me any confidence that anything will change.

35:13

The structures meant to hold the club accountable have been hollowed out.The substantive power that used to sit with the Fans Forum has been moved to the Fan Advisory Board, a body bound by NDAs, with no minute -to -minute meetings.I understand there's a legal basis for confidentiality around financial sensitive share pricing moving information, but I believe that the requirement is now being used as a cover to withhold far more than it needs to.I asked repeatedly for a dedicated youth seat on the Fan Advisory Board because the future of this club's support deserves it.serves a seat at the table that decides its future.I was refused every time.

35:47

I stood for election through the Fans Forum route instead and I wasn't elected.And then came the season ticket suspensions.Thousands of supporters, including some of the most loyal longstanding fans from this club, were hit with account suspensions and cancellation threats in a matter of days with little clarity, little evidence shared and little regard for the people caught in the middle of a policy aimed at touts.We know the scale of how many season ticket holders were affected.it was handled without anywhere near the sensitivity it demanded.That is not a fringe complaint.

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It is the clearest possible evidence that the current relationship between this club and its supporters is broken.I also expect some people will assume I had a hand in how confidential information became public.I didn't, and I want to say that plainly rather than let it sit unaddressed.Anyway, I'm stepping back from the fan forum, not from the fight.I no longer believe my time on the fan forum is serving the people I elected to represent.As a collective, it is no longer able to get across what supporters actually think and feel to the people making decisions.

36:55

That's not a reflection on the group at all.It's a reflection of a structure that's been stripped of the power to matter.Manchester United is in danger, not just on the pitch, but in its relationship with the people who've carried it for generations.I don't know exactly what comes next, but I do know that giving my time to a process with no meaningful impact is no longer where I can make the difference I set out to make." Very, very impressive statement.Nothing to do with transfers at all.

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Something that some of you will probably find quite boring.absolutely important.And nobody's really talking about it.I saw it because the 58 shared it.That should be on the lips of every Man United fan this morning, because that's not to do with transfers.That's to do with somebody on the fan forum basically saying, and personally, I never thought the fan forum had any teeth anyway.

37:56

The fan forum was a collection of representatives for matchgoing fans to discuss things with the club.That's somebody who's on that forum basically saying it has definitely got no teeth now.There's apparently a fan advisory board where they don't even issue the minutes.Omar Barrada, apparently a nice guy, but not a Man United fan, a businessman.This is not transfer related.

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This is the very core of the football club and its relationship with the fans on the fucking pitch.It's become a dictatorship.It's become a business.And you are basically tenants.

38:33

That's what you are.You're almost paying to be a Man United fan now.You have no voice.It's like, if you want to be a fan of this football club, that's the price for a ticket.That's the price for a shirt.That's all you get.

38:45

There's no interest in what this fan base think.There's no consultation with the fans.You can be a season ticket holder for 40 years sat in a certain seat and United will just fuck you off in the space of a few days because they think you're a tout.And it's interesting how Ineos have made things worse as well as per that.So I'll say it again.I think the transfer window is pathetic.

39:11

I think the ambition of the football club is pathetic.And then you've got that.which is disgusting.Like, what is it about the way our football club's being run at the moment that makes people be positive?And what is it about the way our football club's being run at the moment that makes some of our fans attack people like Luka or anybody else that calls out United?It's disgusting what's happened to our football club.

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And it's disgusting that there are people out there defending it.I don't recognize what's happened to our football club in the last few years, and I don't understand why people are defending it.This has got nothing to do with transfers.This is to do with time -served Man United fans being treated like absolute shit.

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And yet some people still say you're negative if you call out the negativity of the football club.It's crazy.It's absolutely crazy.

40:03

But I thought it was a very powerful and truthful and needed Statement from somebody who's obviously been in the fan forum and seen it decay and become nothing But look from a personal point of view, it's only what I think it isI don't think that this club, since the Glazers came in, has got any interest in the fans.I think Sir Jim Radcliffe's made it worse.I think, I've said it time and time again, if any of you were fortunate enough to be a billionaire and you got hold of Man United as a lifelong fan, I guarantee nobody would do what's happened in the last two years.I just don't think You can be a lifelong Man United fan billionaire and do what Sir Jim Radcliffe's done.I think it's a front.

40:51

I think it's a convenience.I think he says he's a Man United fan and that lets him get away with a load of stuff.I don't think a genuine Man United fan sacks half the workforce, bleeds the club dry, knocks Old Trafford down, focuses on a project that's just going to make him rich.I mean, the regeneration project of Manchester and Old Trafford is not for the fans.It's going to make the Glazers and Sir Jim Radcliffe rich.You know, am I wrong?

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I'm not wrong.There's no ambition on the pitch.

41:21

There's no backing of a new manager.Everything is getting worse and it does need calling out.It does need calling out because going back to football, there are people out there that think this summer transfer window is going to be a one -off.I don't think this is a one -off.I think next summer, the next Elliot Anderson will be going to Man City.The next Tenali will probably go to Spurs.

41:48

You know, we will keep doing this year after year now.If you get it, if you tolerate this, then your children will be next.We tolerated this.

41:58

Next summer will be the same as this summer.We will keep doing this again and again and again.

42:03

Boadi is about to sign for Man City and not go back on loan to Lille.He's about to sign for Man City.So Man City, all right, they're going to lose Rodri, but they've gotBoadi and Anderson in and they'll probably bring someone else in as well.We lose out one of our best players.What have we done?

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Santos looks good, but he's never played a season in the Premier League.He's, you know, he's a prospect.Tillemans looks good, but he ain't Casemiro.Our rivals are out.I mean, look, Arsenal have just gone and brought Newcastle's best player and they're champions of England.Liverpool are about to pay a hundred and something million for a winger from PSG.

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we won't spend money, you know, we won't.

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But I think that it's getting harder and harder for me to respect and understand the people that back this ownership.It's getting really, really hard.I almost don't really care about people who want to say, trust the process, it's been a good window, fine, fine.But when you've got people in the club who work for the fan forum, giving up their time, saying it's got worse since Ineos came in, I mean, that's got to be an eye opener, isn't it?And people will say, well, where are the protests, this, that and the other.I've got to say, I think the people who do the protests, primarily the 58, do a great, fantastic job.

43:35

And I'm sure they would admit what I'm about to say is at least partially true.You can protest all you like.You can boycott sponsors.

43:48

You can do a lot of things.There's only two things that will make this ownership sit up.

43:56

You either do something that makes them sit up and discuss things with fans, or you do something to get them out of the club.You can only get them out of the club if there's an alternative.If Mr A or Mrs B turn up at the club,and say, I've done an article with every major news outlet from Sky Sports to Manchester Evening News.I'm absolutely determined to buy Manchester United.I have the money, I have the resources.

44:25

I want to make Man Utd great again and I'm not going to stop.You would then get 58 Man Utd supporters, Trust, United Stand.Everybody would go, let's get behind them and the operation would start.and you'd have a viable alternative who is like, we'll get them out.It might take three years, but we'll get them out.We've all got to work together.

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That's what you need.

44:49

We haven't got that.There is nobody out there for anybody to get behind.So you end up protesting against an ownership that's completely in control and has got no...It's like a government with no election.It's like a government with no alternative.You can hate your government, but if there is no alternative, what are you supposed to do?

45:11

There is nobody out there.

45:13

You can moan about people not doing protests, but what are they protesting for?It's not going to make any change.The only thing that's actually ever harmed the Glazers was that Liverpool game as well.And Man United fans got called hooligans.I still, to this day, cannot stand Jermaine Jenas and Alan Shearer for how they covered Man United on Match of the Day.Basically, the indication was that United fans were hooligans and they couldn't understand why United fans were complaining about the Glazers when they put so much money into the club.

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And that was on national TV, a TV -licensed, funded TV station with misinformation like that.So, you know, the club's in a fucking mess.And, you know, it could get worse.But finding a way out of this shithole is very, very difficult, which is whyI think when I go back to June, and I'm sure a lot of you were with me, our only hope was hope.

46:12

Our only hope was that the club in its current ownership would show some ambition.Because if they don't show any ambition, what are we going to do about it?If Glynios decide they're not going to spend any money, oh, hello, the reality, what are we going to do about it?Write a strongly worded post on X?There's nothing we can do.The only thing we have is hope that they actually do start being ambitious.

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But if they don't, we can't do anything about it.And that's where we are at the moment.Marlo says, read that for Terry and see if he defends Goliath.Mate, I don't know what your obsession is with Terry.I get on fine with Terry.You know, football terrorist, go and give it a watch.

46:52

But I'm not going to, I'm never going to go back to those silly, petty little YouTube arguments.

46:59

We're working on a different level now, as you're going to see tomorrow.And any debate I want, we will have here.in here, like we have done for years.You always say it, but reading the Athletic Today saying that a quiet window for United is good to provide...

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Oh, mate, mate, mate, mate, mate.Oh, Pengers, what a super chat.You just reminded me.Right, I would have missed this.You are a legend.I actually bookmarked this post.

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Please, please, please, please, please still be there.Oh, I bet it's gone.I bookmarked it as well.Oh, I'm so fucking angry.Why does X do that?You like a post.

47:52

Oh, no, here it is.Here it is.So it was in The Athletic yesterday.This is brilliant.OK, this is this is exactly what.Manchester United have had a relatively quiet transfer window by Premier League standards, but after so much squad churn for more than a decade, Could that actually be a good thing?

48:24

A period of stability might just give Michael Carrick and his players space to breathe and build something for the longer term.

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I have never heard such shit in all my fucking life.You may as well say you love the Glazers and this is sponsored by INEOS.I mean, what a load of shit.

48:42

So basically, a quiet window for Man United might be a good thing.They've bought a lot of players over the last decade and a period of doing nothing might be good for Carrick and the players so they can just be calm, breathe and build something for the longer term.Pathetic athletic, exactly.I mean, I've never heard such shitting in all my life.So basically, the fact that United have had a pathetic window could be a good thing for Carrick because he can just sit there with the squad and take a breather.Well, mate, maybe we should play the reserves all season then as well.

49:18

They can go and have a holiday.Maybe Carrick and the team could have a couple of months in Mallorca and we'll just play the reserves.Because guess what, mate?This is Manchester United Football Club.There is no such thing as taking a breather and assessing the situation.You lose one game of football and it's the end of the world.

49:38

This is the one club in the world where you...Well, I don't...Is there a football club in the world who can take a breather?Would Everton fans be okay if Moyes and Everton just had a bit of a breather?You know, maybe win one, lose another one, lose another one, mid -table...know, just make sure we stay up.

49:57

I mean, this is the sort of shite that gets regurgitated in an attempt to curry favour with a football club ownership, which is clueless.It's almost like I've got a niche take.This Man Utd summer transfer window could be the best summer transfer window in their history.I know they've done next to nothing, but maybe it's what they need.Maybe they need to do nothing.you know, they got third place because everybody else was shit and they were playing one game a week.

50:28

I don't actually think they need to add anything.I think actually they might be fine just to sit back, take a breather, assess the last 10 years and then go again in 2027.I mean, you know, I know we live in a society where niche is the new bloody popular thing, but come on.

50:48

Who walked into May going, I actually don't think we need to do much.

50:53

I actually think if we don't buy much, Karrick will, you know, the one thing Karrick needs is a crap transfer window.It might be the best thing that ever happens to him.I know he's inexperienced.I know he's never managed two games a week in the Premier League.I actually think doing nothing might be the way forward.Can I just say that to Jose Mourinho when he goes back to Real Madrid?

51:16

I know, Jose, I know you're back at Real Madrid, lots of eyes on you, big club.But we think buying you next to nobody It's probably what you want.And I can tell by the look in your eyes, you're thinking the same, Jose, aren't you?You're thinking, how's about for your first year, we don't buy you a load of players.You get on with the squad that's not really good enough and you take your time.We really think Real Madrid fans and the press will be on board with this as well.

51:43

You know, when we're like mid table at Christmas, you can just go out there and say, well, we just wanted a year where we just take our time.You know, we wanted to take our time, have a breath.And we knew the fans and the media would be on board as well.I mean, who cares if we get stuffed by Barcelona 4 -0 at home?Let's take a breath.Let's just calm things down.

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The last decade has been a little bit up and down.So we thought, let's just have a year where we forget about football and just relax and calm down.It's just mad, isn't it?No, no.

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52:15

What Man United needed to do was go and buy as many good players as they could to build on the very, very good end to the season that Carrick had and give him the best chance of competing.

52:26

And also, how are you meant to compete standing still?The best analogy is, how are you meant to win a race standing still?And that's basically what that's saying.Maybe standing still is the best thing for Man United.You can't win a race standing still.You can't.

52:45

Welcome to the Members Club, Will.Carrick can't forget what Dorgoo did for him at left wing, says Wubb.Welcome to the Members Club, Paul.Hope you're doing well.I wonder how Rashford feels about this situation, says Kiel.

52:58

I think if you're Marcus Rashford, you've just got to be focused as a professional.He's a professional footballer.I think you've got to be focused.There will be some familiarity.Obviously, he'll have some good relationships with the people like Luke Shaw and Bruno Fernandes and Harry Maguire.He's got a good relationship with Carrick, so I think he'd be OK.

53:15

Van Hooydonk, says Myred.It's a long, I remember who van der Hooydonk is, but I don't remember, yeah, I don't remember what the context of that is.Pak says, I'm calling it now, David Alaba on a free for centre -back cover.Smiksy says, a real proven manager wouldn't accept this window.And Syndicate says, if we get Stiller by the end of the window, I'm personally gonna give 100 subs to this community.I'd be over the moon with Stiller, but the board is the surfboard slipper.

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and dodgy all the time Mohammed says remember when we were in for a secret midfielder almost a month ago and nothing ended up materializing the board spun is around so badly They're pathetic says Mohammed Does Rashford look great in training today says Anthony?I think that statements not been released yet.You you've spoiled it That's definitely coming out in the next 48 hours that Rashford looks incredible in training You've just spoiled it.Mark, mate, regardless who we sign, game week one will be Santos and Mainu, Tillerman's in the pivot and Shaw at left back.Disgrace and unprepared as usual, says D. And I just don't get this schizophrenic board.

54:24

How do you complain about the wage bill and then take back Barca's reduced offer for Rashford?And don't take Barca's reduced offer for Rashford.They're hypocrites, says United 7 -7 -7.

54:34

United don't need a dogmatic value only strategy.Find value where it exists and pay premium when the player is premium.Both can and should co -exist.Absolutely, Aspen.

54:43

Look, if there's a £75 million player that's gonna make this team better, you pay 75 million pounds.

54:52

If you can find a player that is that good, but he's on a free transfer, you take him on a free transfer.Mistakes aren't the fee, mistakes are the player.And United have gone draconian by saying we're not gonna pay any more than 50 million for a player anymore.And that is just stupidity.Because you can buy a 40 million pound player who's a bag of shit, and you can buy a 120 million pound player who's brilliant.It's not it's not the value.

55:21

It's the player.

55:23

Thank you very much.I already see Athletic saying lack of summer transfer activity was due to the board's lack of confidence in Carrick when Carrick gets the sack.

55:33

I mean, look, I hope Carrick doesn't get the sack.Genuinely don't want to see him get in the sack.But I do believe.that you're right, Savesh.I do believe that already the story is being written.And, you know, an author tends to know when they start writing a book where it's going to go.

55:53

And we shouldn't know that with a manager.But you can already see the story being written.The board didn't back Carrick because they didn't really trust him.But there wasn't anything better.

56:07

It's not fair.Now we know why we hired Carrick.A new manager would have demanded transfers to Stream.Giving a builder no materials and saying good looks, says John United.

56:17

Did you know that Endrik actually talked about Sir Bobby Charlton and knows the history of our club?Would be really interesting if we can get him for loan.Thoughts, says Michael.I have heard about that, but apparently Endrik will not be coming to Man United because we're looking at other things.Sorry, we're not looking at strikers.Emily Derry says, how about asking why we always need to buy a lot of players?

56:36

We aren't Real Madrid or Barca or Bayern who can afford to cherry pick one or two hundred million talents and call it good.Thank you very much, Emily.Dale says, I think the club is truly dead and buried.

56:47

Well, if things don't start to get better, then I think you're probably right.If this summer is a sign of things to come, then things can only get worse.If we start showing ambition, then things can get better.But one of the big things, and I don't propose to go into it in any detail because it's 11 o 'clock, Bruno Fernandes, Harry Maguire, Luke Shaw, these players are gone in a year or two.They're gone.We need left -back, right -back, midfielder, striker today.

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Tomorrow, we're going to need centre -back,Bruno replacement, you know, this is what I mean about things getting worse and if we're not spending money, how do you replace Bruno Fernandes?Only hope is to go after their other businesses, says Kiel.

57:47

Thank you very much.I was having anxiety due to medication yesterday and listening to all these videos helped me sleep peacefully.Thank you, Mark, says Ram.Well, we're always here to help, even if it is putting you to sleep.Thank you so much for the show this morning.Look, I know it's a new show, but for me, the favorite bit was speaking about that Luca Black post about the fan forum.

58:11

It's not just a pathetic transfer window why people are worried about this football club.It's the way they treat their fans.It's the way they treat their staff.It's the way the people in power are not Man Utd fans.Jason Wilcox, not a Man Utd fan.Favell, not a Man Utd fan.

58:30

Berrada, not a Man Utd fan.Glazers, not Man Utd fans.Sir Jim Radcliffe, businessman.You know, the club is in the grip of people who don't care about this football club.And when people don't care, then the people who do care get shit on, basically.Lewis Hall's gonna sign a new contract at Newcastle.

58:53

Well, what a surprise.What a surprise.Take care, everyone.Stay safe.We're back at two and we're back at eight.

59:01

And if anything happens, we'll let you know.Don't forget, tomorrow morning, we will at least be giving you some big news.And the United are playing on Wednesday as well.80 ,000 sellout in Crowe Park in Dublin as well.Could be a big game.Should be a good game, hopefully.

59:15

Especially if Leeds take it seriously.Speak to you all in a bit.Take care.

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