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El MUERTO que se LEVANTÓ | Relatos Macabros de Embalsamadores
Podcast Extra Anormal
The morgue is the place where no one wants to go in, but someone has to do it. Everything should be quiet there. However, those who work at night say that it is not always like that, since sometimes there are sounds that they do not know how to explain and occasions that they feel that someone is watching them, even if they are completely alone. There are occasions where they claim that some bodies
are manipulated by dark entities. Today, we are going to hear stories that happened in there. And I'm going to warn you something. When this episode ends, maybe you won't see death the same way again. Welcome. How are you, family?
Welcome to another episode of Extra Normal Podcast. My name is Paco Arias and I'm happy to be here again in a new chapter for all of you. Family, we have a topic for you that really causes a lot of fear, a lot of terror. We never imagined and we never wanted to end up in a morgue. But the people who work in these places face a reality that not just any human being would dare to face. And really, for tonight, we bring you a super strong topic
that I really invite you to listen to the whole episode. Because apart from the fact that our guest is an expert and has lived through many strong things, this whole episode will be full of sinister stories. So please, I want to invite you to make yourself comfortable. If you hear this while doing some work,
studying, in the gym, on the road, please try to pay as much attention as possible, because I'm sure you'll be surprised with all the information you're going to hear next. To talk about these topics, I have a very special person surprised by all the information you'll hear next. To talk about these topics, I have a very special guest with me for the first time, our dear friend, Jessica. How are you?
Hi, fine. How are you?
Good. Thank you for accepting the invitation. Really, as I mentioned a while ago, talking about these topics with a person like you, who has a lot of experience in this field, I'm very excited. I know that many people have already seen you, or will recognize you, because they have seen you on very popular podcasts with many views. But for those who are meeting you for the first time,
please, I would like you to introduce yourself, what you do, social media.
Ok, look, my name is Jessica Rojas.
I am a criminal law and pedagogy lawyer. sociales. at www.exforense.oficial on Instagram and Facebook. Perfect. There it is, so you can visit our guest's social media after this episode, so you can see all the work she does. Before we start, I want to mention something. Our guest has a lot to tell, but among these things, there is something forbidden that will only be available
on our website. If you would like to see it, please go to www.podcastextranormal.com.mx We are waiting for you there. Now, my dear Jessica, let's see. A while ago we were talking about many topics that have to do with forensics, embalming bodies,
working, let's say, in such a special way. We talked about something very important, the sensation, the aroma and the energy of these places. How has your experience been working in these places?
Well, first of all, it has to be clear that the morgue is not the same as an embalmer.
Of course.
The morgue is... whenever we have a person who dies of homicides, suicide, accident, or some medical negligence, they will go to the morgue or what are called EMFs. And what no one can escape is an embalmer. This can be a person who dies, I don't know, in their home, in a hospital, or any place of that kind, they're going to give it to the embalmer.
Because the morgue is where we're going to look for the cause of death of the person. Why did he die? If it was an accident, if they killed him, if he committed suicide, whatever happened. And the embalmer is where we prepare the coffins
so that the relatives can take him to the rite of passage that is customary here in our country. So, I can tell you that in any of the two situations, I have lived several experiences, because we always work with death, right, but I can tell you that I think that sometimes in the EMFs it is a little more complicated.
I think that because they are the people who were not always ready to leave. Because they are sudden deaths. A person who gets into an accident, I don't know, a person who gets... I think they are people who were not ready to leave and maybe all of a sudden, boom, they lost their light. So there we have a different energy. And in an embalmer, the energy is a little bit sadder.
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Get started freeBecause it's preparing the body for the family to take it. And there you realize, I don't know, from the clothes, the care of the person, if they want it, if they didn't want it. And I think that generates the energy in that place.
I want to ask you something. I've been talking to people who are dedicated to this a few times. I think, if I'm not mistaken, there are three people with you. And I want to ask you this question. Regardless of what you do and your profession, do you believe in a spiritual theme?
Why am I telling you this? Because there are professionals that I've spoken to and they say, yes, I believe in a God, I believe in the paranormal, I believe in this. And I've had to go to the other side, no, for me, science, I'm working with dead matter.
What do you believe in?
I believe in energies. I believe that everything is energy. But I also believe that there is a good and a bad. I've had energies that feel good, that I can work my body without problems. But I've had cold, heavy energies.
They're those things that you even think about touching, because, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very I mean, apart from the stories you've already told, tell me some of those anecdotes, even if it's short, of when the person gives you that bad feeling, so to speak.
I had it once when I was just starting out, and a body was coming from the prison. We really don't have the background of why that person was in the prison. They only tell me, he's coming from the prison. Uh-huh. Tattooed. And I don't know, ugly. Those people that you see and say, they look ugly. I mean, ugly in energy, in fear. I swear to you, if there's something you should learn in this business,
it's that you shouldn't be afraid. Because obviously, when you're accompanied by many, in a semaphore, in a container, well, it's fantastic. But you can also have to stay alone. So, you should learn not to be afraid. en un seméfono, en una embalseadora, pues está fantástico. Pero también te puede tocar que te quedes tú solito. Entonces, debes aprender a no tener miedo.
Y ese día estaba yo con el doctor con el que me enseñó a necropsiar y se nos olvidó la caja de la necropsia en la camioneta. Y entonces, cuando yo vi el cuerpo, le dije, no, yo voy por la caja. Y me dijo, no, I'm going. And he left and left me there alone. And I swear to you that for the first time in my life, I stopped halfway through the door and I saw him and I saw the door.
And he said, I have to be here because if he moves, I run. And I know he doesn't move. I knew it was dead matter. But his energy was heavy, it was negative ugly, and I was afraid. I was afraid to touch him.
Okay. In that kind of situation, for example, you mentioned the movements. We know that there are post-mortem movements, not reflexes. Sometimes there is this accumulation of gases that, suddenly, with the body's manipulation, there is a slight movement. How normal can this be? And at what point do you say, that's not normal?
No. When they arrive with us, they should not move. Ok. I mean, yes, the gas is true. But the part of the movements, no. Because, for example, a person dies here and they will not come immediately for her. Sure. It takes about four hours. For those cuatro horas, el cuerpo ya no tiene energía acumulada,
ya no tiene movimientos de ningún tipo, ya no hay movimientos de reflejos, nada. Entonces, si a mí un cadáver se me mueve en el SEMEFO, hombre, yo corro. O en la embalsamadora, yo corro doble,
porque ya no se deben de mover. ¿Y te ha tocado?
¿Que se muevan? Sí. And you've had to? To move? Yes. No, rather, suddenly you see how your belly is inflated.
Ok.
But I try to generate whatever my mind is imagining. Or a gas issue. The gases in the body, yes, when the decomposition begins, they can be, but the problem is when the decomposition starts. If I have a cancer that has been dying for 5 or 6 hours and suddenly the belly moves,
it can't be the gases. As if it was breathing.
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And the gases should be generated from around 24 to 36 hours. So if it's a body that comes to me and suddenly I see it and I feel like the belly is moving because it's breathing, I try not to think about it and I feel like my belly is moving because I'm breathing. I try not to think about it and I turn around. I think that sometimes...
But I also think it can be the power of the mind. The suggestion. Sure, because the first thing you see when you see if a person is alive or dead is obviously the breathing. So, I think it can be suggestive, but I try not to focus it there. pues obviamente es la respiración. Entonces yo creo que de pronto puede ser sugestivo, pero trato de no enfocarlo para allá.
Mira, yo te quiero contar algo y sobre todo conocer tu opinión como experta en la materia. Esta historia que nos comparten, se llama, bueno nosotros la titulamos costumbres, pero es una historia anónima. Esta historia nos las comparte una persona
que se dedica a ser médico forense, es médico forense, This story is shared by a person who is a forensic doctor, but her parents were not. She is a person who, since she was very, very young, was very familiar with all the issues of death, which for many people is a taboo. For this girl it was super normal.
She tells us, starting her email, what a forensic doctor lives, not anyone can stand it. Seeing many corpses in different scenarios makes you lose your fear of death. She says that both her mom and her dad were dedicated to this.
Her dad was a little more to the rough work. For example, he had to be in these places like amphitheaters, morgues, where the groups that were in a quite unpleasant aspect, but so full, that maybe, I don't know, a truck hit his, etc. Or maybe they found him and he had been there for a month, so they had to take him away.
So his dad was dedicated to this robust work. His mom too, but her mom, for example, didn't do that much, but she was more dedicated to makeup, people, giving them this aspect of being at peace, of being asleep. Her dad was the one who took the heavy work. She says that her dad always wanted her to also dedicate herself to this.
And from an early age, he started to teach her a little to lose her fear of dealing with people that we know is a very delicate issue. And I was talking to you a while ago, and not just anyone. She told us that since she was 12, her dad would tell her what her job was like. She said that there were times when her dad was friends with the director of the hospital
where he gave services and all that, and sometimes the director would give them permission to let her in. That was very, to me, was very extreme. But she says that she saw her dad, that's true, she put a lot of rules on him, she dressed him completely with security issues, she put her in a corner, she told him, you just watch,
he had already explained to her what he was going to do, and she went and saw at 12 years old. She says that her dad had a strange routine, because before he arrived with the body that was on the iron or was on a table covered, her father would sit down and sit down or sit down,
as they like to say, and after doing this, before putting his hands on the body, he would pull a bench, sit down, and talk for several minutes with the person.
He would talk as if he were talking to a living person. He would tell them who he was, for example, I'm Dr. Francisco, I'm going to do what you need to prepare, etc., etc., I'm going to bring you in with your family, please let me work in peace.
All of this. And she says it took a long time. And in this period, for example, when she saw all of this, her father started to work. And a series of things happened
that we already talked about, the sound, the movements. Her father told her all the time that people, even if they were no longer alive, you have to always treat them with respect. Always. And his father was always a very straight man,
and he always liked to do things right. He says that to his mother, obviously, too. And so she gradually lost her fear. He says that years went by, she also started studying study all this subject. And when she started her practices, her father was obviously her teacher and everything.
And she says that she began to know everything that happened to the human body, just as you mentioned, after so of hours, this and that." But she tells me, when does this belief break, that what's happening here is no longer normal? She says they were on vacation.
Her father had a best friend, a man with whom they had lived together all whole lives, they were like brothers and sisters, and all that. He says that they were on vacation, and they call him to give him some tragic news. His best friend, his best friend,
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Get started freehad had an accident on the road, and the friend's family wanted the father to prepare the body. So he says that first, the man, imagine receiving that news, he gets in shock, he starts crying, at that moment the holidays are canceled, they return to his city, and the father goes
just to prepare the body of his best friend. And he says, that time my dad asked me to help him. And I also said, I'm going, everything is ready. The body, well, people are going to intuit, he had already had many hours of having had that accident. So, everything that could have happened,
it was no longer possible for something like what we were talking about to happen. He says they arrive, get ready, get all the equipment, the body was on a board, the way he was able to see because he had a white blanket, everything was stained, something horrible. He says that the father did his own ritual, he comes, he pees or he shits, he starts talking, but he says that when he starts talking,
the father breaks down. I mean, it's not the same as serving a person you don't know, to see your best friend, your best friend. Then the father breaks down and starts crying, starts crying. And he starts saying a lot of things about his family, her children. Here, the detail is that she comes closer.
And this is where science completely collides with, let's say, the paranormal spiritual theme. She says that at the moment when her father is crying and taking his friend's hand, she says that she managed to see that the corpse I think that in the moment where her dad is crying, holding her friend's hand, she says that she saw that the corpse was also crying.
She saw tears coming out of her eyes, and she says that she couldn't believe what she was seeing. There is no explanation for all of this, it doesn't exist, and she is scared, And she is scared. She is obviously scared. What strikes her, and I'll make a parenthesis,
she says that a caterpillar, the look of a caterpillar is obviously very different from that of a human being, because the shine that is in your eyes goes away completely. The look that that guy has is a big one, obviously. But at that moment when his dad had the hand
of his best friend, that shine came back for a few seconds. That shine was there, it wasn't an empty look, it was a conscious look. And besides, she was full of tears. She says she was in shock. Her father, apparently, realized all that and continued. He says what he did was give them his space
and after a while, his father had already reintegrated, he was already working. And he says that before he said anything, his dad told him, don't be scared. What you had was something very normal. The problem, and she told me in the end,
what my father told me, I don't know if it's to give me peace and tranquility, but what I know and learned in school is that what I saw was impossible. My body was already very old. That was no longer possible.
But I don't know if my father told me so as not to be afraid. My father is a man who believes in spirits, energies, and I'm sure, he says, that what he did was say goodbye to his friend,
and his friend responded. What do you think?
Wow.
Look, I think, first of all, it's very complicated for one to work with a friend or a family member, in general. Because the procedure we do is not a CRAT. I mean, literally, we open the skull, we open the skull, we open the part of the thoracic-abdominal box.
So, seeing a relative or a friend exposed, on the inside, it's a strong impression. And, as far as the tears, I can also tell you, no, not at all, that it's normal. But I also had a similar case. I had a case where a police officer was harassed
because the sister tells him that the husband beats her, he beats her, and then he goes out all riled up and he beats his brother-in-law. So, he is put in a prison. And I imagine that the pressure in a prison for a police officer must be very strong, that he took him to the police station.
So, the day we were going to prepare him, and the pressure in a prison for a police officer must be very strong, that led him to the study. So the day we were going to prepare him, they told me, you know what, put him in the cell first, because he's a partner. I said, of course. But at that moment I was bringing a group of students, I usually bring students because I like teaching.
So I was bringing a group of students with me, and we got in, and the wife snuck into the semaphore with us. y nos metemos y la esposa se coló al seméfono con nosotros, ¿no? Entonces, como la puerta estaba abierta, pues, obviamente, la señora se metió. Y ya cuando volteé y la vi, yo así, ¿tú qué haces aquí? Entonces, me dijo la señora, no, que regálame cinco minutos. Y el MP en ese momento me dice, dale cinco minutos para que se despida.
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Get started freeEntonces, yo saco a todos los that was facing the semaphore. So I was there, all the students were there, looking out, and I said, hey, give her space, let her say goodbye. And I swear to you, I saw the lady crouching and I don't know how much I whispered in her ear. She was just talking and talking and talking,
and she was crying and crying. And what I, it's not that it makes an impact on me, Y estaba llore y llore, ¿no? Y a mí lo que me... No es que me cause impacto, pero no me encanta porque la señora lo besó. Y la verdad es que en ese momento la gente no se da cuenta de todas las bacterias que ya hay.
Y porque, pues, obviamente no es como que sea el lugar más limpio. Entonces, ella lo besó y yo, pues, obviamente hice cara como de ¡Huacala! I always tell them to transmit it well. So, when I move it like this, tears come out. And the young man who was helping me, he kept his face like this. And I just cleaned it with my thumbs and I said, shh.
Because the students were in their own world. They were getting comfortable and everything. So, when I cleaned his tears, he kept looking at me with a face like this.
And I...
That's it. We did the necrosis, we finished. And when everyone left, I saw him pale and serious. He was always asking me questions, and that day he was serious.
Your student?
Yes, and he says... I turned to him and said, Everything okay? And he says, Did you see what I saw? And I said, ''It's all right.'' And he said, ''You saw what I saw.'' And I said,
''What did you see?'' And he said, ''No, you know what you saw, Lik, and you know what we saw.'' And I said, ''I didn't see anything.''
And he said,
''No, he cried.'' I said, ''No, I don't think he cried.'' Remember that there are tears and there's a dehydration of the body and it dilates, so it's normal for tears to come out. And I looked at him like, no. And I said, well, that's my scientific explanation, and I'll stick with that.
Because I don't like to think that it could be something paranormal, because of course it's not normal.
Let's see, honestly, that explanation you gave to your student at that moment, did it convince you 100% or did you want to believe it?
I wanted to believe it because it's the only time it's happened to me.
Look, a while ago I was with a person that I really love, I send my regards to Doña Felice, a nurse who has also embalmed bodies and all this. And she told me a story, I'm going to tell you very quickly because it is a story that many people know. In fact, it is the most viewed episode of this channel. She says she is from a town,
in fact her town is very close to where we are. And she says she met a boy, well, I mean, a small town, you know everyone. a All the time, his desire was to buy a motorcycle. All the time and all his life. He says that the boy, I think, is going to work, not in the United States, he's going to the north of the country, Tijuana, Sonora, something like that.
He goes for a few months, saves some money, and returns to the town. The first thing he did was buy a motorcycle, and it was obvious that the guy was going up and down, but in a very insecure way, let's call it that. So, the guy was going to the corners, he was going up and down, and there was a moment when the guy had an accident.
The way he had an accident is very tragic, because he crashes, but as he was going at high speed, he comes out at high speed, he got hit. It was like a bunch of wires, because it was like a wire fence, these are for the pines and all that. And what Mrs. Felice tells us,
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Get started freethe person I was interviewing, is that the person was so close that the guy literally got completely hit. I mean, he was going at such high speed, the person was so close to the guy that he literally took his entire head off. I mean, he was going at such a high speed that he was projected where the wires were,
and he was literally hanging his head from a piece of skin, I think. So, she talks to her mom, the boy's mom. Hey, you know what, Mrs. Felice? Come and get my son ready, because my son,
well, he died, he f***ed up. And, well, the lady came, she started working, she talks to the f***ers and all this, and she says that before this, the lady says, you know what, let me talk to him first. And she says that she, just like what happened to you,
she goes out and you what happened to you, you go out and you give her the space. But she's surprised because she says she didn't expect to hear that the lady scolded him. I mean, she scolded him as if he were alive. It was like, damn kid, but I told you, I told you not to buy yourself.
And the lady was listening, Mrs. Felicia was like, Oh, no, I'm sorry. I didn't expect it. But she says that suddenly, the lady who was scolding him, she said, Felicia, Felicia, look,
but she was crying. What's wrong? I was scolding my son and look at him. And the same thing, when she saw him see the body, the same, but in pieces. And she says, well, you're scolding him.
Talk to him, tell him to go in peace, that you forgive him, that you understand that it wasn't his decision, it was an accident. And yes, he was telling him all that, that he go in peace, that he didn't feel bad, that he knew it hadn't been on purpose, it was an accident,
that he never expected it, blah, blah, blah. Stop crying. Stop crying, brother. And the energy or the feeling he gave changed completely, says this nurse that I interviewed. It's just that the appearance was completely peaceful. I mean, it changes completely.
And I remember what you said, and it really amazes me. Well, I tell you, me, that a body cries... I've been in this for more than 10 years, more or less, 11, it's the only body that has cried to me. The only one. But it's also the only time I've allowed the relative to say goodbye.
Because I'm telling you, it's not something pleasant. It's not something I like. Because I like working with the dead because they don't complain. So I don't like the suffering of the human being. And when you allow relatives to see him on the iron, it's an ugly suffering. So I don't like the suffering of the human being. And when you allow your family to see him on the iron, it's an ugly suffering.
So, I don't like it. And the only time it has happened to me is when a dog cries. I can believe what you say about the semblance. Yes, I have had bodies that come with the sad, angry semblance,
maybe, and some that arrive calm. Okay. Hey, I have a question for you. Do you talk to the c*****?
Yes.
What do you tell them?
I mean, I don't talk to them about scolding them or anything. I just tell them, for example, this Saturday, I met a guy who was arrested working at a convenience store. He was working in security and he was arrested for working in a convenience store. He was working as a security guard and he was arrested here. But it was with a pretty big guy because he hit his heart and lungs. To his bad luck, literally, the ribs were there
and the guy went through the middle of the ribs. I mean, it was... he had to.
He had to.
Because he came in through here, right? And I'm like, I went to the iron and I saw him and I said, le tocaba, porque entro por acá, ¿no? Y yo soy como muy de... entré a la plancha y lo vi y le dije, mira nada más, ¿qué estabas haciendo? Ve cómo te dejaron. Pues, ¿qué estás haciendo? Pues, o sea, les hablo de esa... de como de esa manera, ¿no? Y entonces, pues, en lo que mis alumnos se acomodaban y todo, y yo le dije, bueno, pues déj for you so you can go fast. I always tell you before I work, I touch his head and tell him to transmit his energy well.
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Get started freeSo that they go as peacefully as possible. Because I tell you, it's those people who weren't ready to leave. Maybe it was their time, but they don't know. It's very ugly because the family members were outside. So, you hear the crying of the mother. Of course, your son goes to work and you never expect to be called to tell you that he just died.
And especially the way he died. Because a person who came in to steal went to the store. So, it's a tragic matter, you know? And his face when he came in was very curious because they took him off the carriage and he had his eyes open and that's not normal. Almost always because they are closed by decline.
So they took him off and he had his eyes open. When we put him on the board, his eyes were closed. And the entrance to the board is five meters. y el paso de la entrada hacia la plancha son cinco metros.
Wow. Oye, y digo, tengo otra pregunta, perdón, te dije que te iba a hacer tantas preguntas, pero me van surgiendo. Este, yo tengo una historia que te quiero contar ahorita en un momento, pero trata de un tema que a mí siempre me pega mucho, porque no es lo mismo, because it's not the same, and you know it perfectly well, to watch the subject matter. I'm going to say it like this so that this video doesn't get censored so much. To watch the subject matter of an adult, to watch the subject matter of a small being, not an innocent being. Have you had to go through something like this?
Yes, I've had to go through everything. From the newborns to the oldest, the 90-somethings, of everything. In this aspect, which case has marked you the most? I think the one with two minors who were killed with the grace dispenser right here. What? A five or six-year-old minor and a three-year-old minor.
So, when I was in that embalmer, a five or six year old and a three year old. So, when I was in that embalmer, we always played music, because it seemed like we didn't, but since we were used to it, we played music to work. That made the work a little more pleasant. And we got these two cups with the dad,
who also had it in the same way. So what we did with this part was, on one plate the adult, and on the other plate the two minors, finding their feet. The mother was outside, with a tremendous hysteria,
so we had to remove her from the place because the way the minors died, I mean, I don't know what the Lord did or why they killed him that way, because it was in his house, but whatever it was,
the minors had no fault, nor did they have to have done that.
Of course.
So I always put music, well, we put music on that embalmer and the speaker was like whatever was there let us put the music we wanted to listen to. So if I put, for example, I don't know, a band, then if the person or the entity that was there
or whatever was there didn't want to make music, I would turn it down. And you would turn up the volume on his phone, and you turned up the volume, and if he didn't like the music again, you turned it down.
So, we were always happy with the speakers, you know? And that day when those kids played, I turned on some children's music, because, I don't know, it made me feel like they were going to be happy. I put on children's music because I don't know, it made me feel like they were going to be happy
because it wasn't their time. So I put on children's music and the speakers were at peace. As if whatever was there understood that the music was for them. And it was very strange because we all worked in silence, but the background music was children's music, the one you sang when you were little. And I could tell you that we tried to make the semblance of the children not look sad.
That's very important. One thing is how they arrive, and another thing is how you, as a relative, see it. They arrive with a semblance that that day, the faces of these minors were like, like out of fear. As if the last thing they had seen was a man pointing at them, out of fear.
And they left, we leave them with a semblance of tranquilityility or peace. But we do that.
My God, you know, you said something that is true. They were not touched, regardless of what their parents did. Well, they, I mean, no, it has nothing to do with it. And it's something too low, too vile, too has nothing to do with it. And it's something too low, too vil, too inhuman to do that against two beings that cannot be defended, obviously innocent. It's something very ugly, very sad. And I was telling you this because I want to tell you something now. This story is pretty crazy.
It's a story sent by a girl named Ximena Sánchez. I send her a big hug. She tells me that she works as a forensic doctor, but she doesn't tell me where she works, because that's where she currently works. We call this story,
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Get started freeThe Witch of the Morgue. I'm is and so on. So she says that she mainly goes to a hospital that has morgues, amphitheaters, all of that, but that had a peculiarity. When she and other colleagues go to this place, the director of this hospital asks them, or like gives them an unusual recommendation. He says, you know what? Believe in God.
It is necessary that you believe in something. And please, carry a crucifix. Well, obviously, she finds it strange. Because, why would they say that? At first, that group of kids thought they were newbies, that they were going to scare them away, that they were coming from school.
They saw it that way. It says that in that hospital, on one side, near the hospital, I don't know, a block away, there lived a woman. This woman was a healer.
Others said she was a witch. And for other people, she was just an old woman who was crazy, who said nonsense and stuff. She says that this woman had a problem in her faculties because sometimes she was at home, you could talk to her, have a conversation, but as we say here in Mexico,
vulgarly, suddenly she throws up and changes. That is, when her suffering comes in. And he says that the woman was going to the hospital, all like bad, in some crisis of something. She entered the part where the people were being hospitalized, he would sneak in and tell the people who were hospitalized,
you, you, you, you, you, you, you are going to die. I mean, he would come in and do it. Obviously, security would come in, they would take them out, but you would say, well, there it is. What do you think? Call it luck, chance, fate.
I don't know. But the people she pointed out about you, you, you, you, died. It didn't matter if you were there because of influence, if you were there because your crotch hurt. Something was happening.
She told me, Ximena. Something was happening, and the person got worse. And there were people, the faster it was, that same night,
the person was no longer there. So, the medical personnel are very scared, and they reinforce security. Because this lady was like prowling around the hospital and she was looking for entry.
Security didn't let her in. But when she arrived, this is what they told Ximena, but Ximena, being in the hospital, had to see how an early morning joke,
security, who was outside in a chair, she was falling asleep, the person who was taking care of her, this lady comes in, she goes in where the nurses are,
everything, she gets to where the nurses are, and again, tutu, tutu, they're going to die.
And they say,
no, security, this crazy lady came in, I don't know what, and they take her no, security, this crazy lady came in, I don't know what, and they take her out, brother. But this time, she says, they took her out like with a little bit of violence.
They even talked to the police there and they gave a complaint, there was a record that the lady was having that kind of problems, committing all these acts, and she lived alone. So, the lady is sent to a place where people are in a kind of asylum,
and the lady gets angry. The supposed witch gets angry and says she'll turn around and tell everyone, all the people who die in this place, in this hospital, not even not dead, will rest.
Like they'll cast a curse and leave. From that moment on, it's said that people, especially the forensic scientists, the ones who work in balsam, doing necropsies and all that, it's said that they lived some very strong things,
because there were moments, and this, Jimena documents it, he says, people, for example, the people who were there for hours, they did impossible things, he says, there were moments, something that she remembers that did not touch her, it was a partner, he says a person who had been dead for hours. The person gets up,
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People didn't want to be there. And everyone was very suspicious because it wasn't the curse of the witch, the witch, the witch, the witch. Ximena, well, let's say, like any professional,
she saw, but she said, I don't know. I mean, she always looked for an explanation. Until she got it. She says that one day, she was arriving at her shift at night, and there were three bodies that she was going to prepare, along with other people.
She said that when she got to the hospital, she was called to attention because the door where she was going to work was there, where the bodies were going to be worked. She was called to attention because she heard the crying of a child inside. And she asks, is there someone there? Or is there someone inside?
And he says no. But until he comes in and goes to work, he realizes that among the three kids who were going to work, there was a six-year-old. And she gets excited because she says, I heard it.
The typical cry that a child makes when they're playing, this cry of happiness, of nervousness, she says, I heard it, and I heard it twice. So much so that they thought that someone's son had come in. And she says that at the time she was working,
she felt a very strong pressure in her chest, and she had a sensation that she had never felt before, even though she had a little experience. But what really made her fall down was that while she was working with this person, she suddenly felt like someone is squeezing her hand and when she turns around, she says she sees the little arm
that was literally grabbing her hand, squeezing her hand, and this little one opens her eyes and says that she started opening her mouth very wide, like she wanted to speak but she wasn't speaking, like she was made sounds like... But I was pressing my hand so hard.
She says that obviously, seeing this and feeling how they are pressing her hand, she screams and faints. She says that no one ever found an explanation for that. They took the signs of that child, because obviously the child was...
He was dead.
But for the people in that hospital, it was normal. They did nothing. Because of the witch's curse. The witch said that all the dead who were here,
and being dead, were going to rest. And for all of them, today, it's normal to see that kind of thing. People who have that kind of movements, that no longer enter within the normal, but for them it was like that. It was because of the curse of the witch.
What do you think? I'm scared. What would you do if that happened to you? For example, do you hear the crying and working? I mean, let's say you're looking the other way and they grab your hand. and for example, do you hear the crying and working? Let's say you're looking somewhere else and they grab your hand.
You know, the noise part is very normal. It's very normal. For example, I don't like to sleep in those kinds of places, but maybe it's necessary because you're there for days, or sometimes you're waiting for the bodies to arrive and you fall asleep. What has happened to me a couple of times is that I hear in my ear o a veces estás esperando que lleguen los cuerpos y te duermes. Y a mí lo que me ha pasado un par de veces es que escucho en el oído o mi nombre,
o escucho como que me hacen shhh en el oído. Y entonces eso genera que siempre abres los ojos como de, ¿qué está pasando? Entonces, los sonidos creo que son muy normales, muy normal que escuches. O se escucha de pronto, no sé, cubetas, o se escuchan pasos. or you hear steps. But I think it's because these places store a lot of energy. Imagine how many dead people pass through there.
And the part where they hold your hand is a feeling that is common, that you can feel. Because the hand, since we have something called rigidity, the hand contracts.
It will always contract. So when you try to open your fingers, the finger returns. And the finger is not just a muscle, Y que la mano, como tenemos algo que se llama rigidez, la mano se contrae. Siempre se va a contraer. Entonces, cuando tú intentas abrirle los dedos, el dedo se regresa. Si eres una persona novata, evidentemente vas a sentir que te está agarrando la mano. Entonces, hasta ahí yo te podría decir movimiento normal.
En la parte de los sonidos, o sea, sí por los gases se podría escuchar... In the sound part, you can hear the gases, but that should be when you are squeezing it. That suddenly it sounds like... But you should be touching it or squeezing it to release those gases. But for you to see how it is opening its mouth, I can't explain that. Oh my God. That part, no.
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Get started freeBut the sounds are very normal. I think that suddenly, those types of sounds, you can associate them with the place. I don't know, I've heard,
I tell you that I suddenly hear Jessica in my ear. Or I hear the shh, and it's always... I try not to sleep there because you hear very strange things. I was going to a swamp in Morelia, and this swamp is very curious
because at the bottom there is a swamp that has a double plank, the entrance for the trucks, a small patio with stairs that lead to the rooms rooms where you can rest. So, here I had to, once I went to give a class over there, someone peeked out through the wall. And I remember perfectly that I was there, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,
and suddenly it looked like someone peeked out and came back. But, I mean, no one could peek out because there was no one else. se vio como que alguien se asomó y regresó. Pero él no se podía asomar a nadie porque no había más nadie. Entonces, eso por ejemplo, no es que sea normal, pero te digo, es que hay mucha energía, hay muchas cosas que se quedan ahí. Y entonces, platicando con la persona que es la dueña de esta embalsamadora, me dijo, no, pero es normal, porque en los videos se ve como pasea una niña en el patio.
Pero vamos, es lo que te digo, la gente que nos dedicamos a esto, tratamos de normalizarlo para no tener ese constante miedito. Pero ella me dice que en los videos se ve una niña que está paseando de pronto por la embalsamadora. Y yo cuando vi que alguien se asomó, o sea, yo estaba dando clase y de pronto veo que se asoma. I was in class and I saw someone peeking out of the wall. I continued my class and I was like, okay, nothing happens. I try not to be scared by those kinds of things.
Okay.
What you're saying is very typical in hospitals. We've told many stories of hospitals that have this type of medical experience, nurses, nurses, doctors, who learn to live normalizing all this. And as you say, in times when there is a lot of work,
where it is necessary to take a nap, to sleep a nap of about 10, 15, 20 minutes, it has to be there, somewhere you can. For example, a while ago I was talking to a friend who is a doctor, and she obviously had to live with it. When she went to take a nap for a few minutes, she went to one of the hospitals that I consider to be the strongest,
the pediatric area. She went to the pediatric area and there she says there was a crib, she was looking for the comfort of sleep a little bit and wake up and go back to work. And she says that something super strong happened to her there. Obviously, being in these places makes you stay in contact and a great possibility of living something like this.
Have you heard anything like that?
In the hospitals, yes. There's always... I'm telling you, I think a lot of energies move. There are a lot of dead people, a lot of despair, desolation, illness. Once I had, for example, just one who came from the hospital, a body that came to the hospital, and we were going to prepare it.
And look, I tell you, I don't tell you because... Y lo íbamos a preparar. Y fíjate, eso nunca... te digo, no lo cuento porque... trato de no sugestionarme porque trabajo en eso. Estás ahí constantemente. Pero alguna vez me tocó un cuerpo que abrió los ojos. Y... o sea, no se supone que no los pueden... bueno, no se supone. Generalmente no los abren porque por gravedad el párpado cae. Entonces, este lo ponen en la plancha y al momento que yo le empiezo a quitar las sábanas, que venía de un hospital conocido, entonces, le empiezo a quitar las sábanas
y, no sé, volteo a verle el rostro y abrió los ojos. Y yo le puse la sábana encima. De regreso... No pasó nada aquí, ¿no? Sí, exacto. Justo le puse la sábana encima y me volte. Y entonces ya la gente que estaba ahí le dije, hay que acabar de quitar toda la sábana y todo. Y ellas acabaron de quitarle la sábana. Y cuando le pusieron, le quitaron la sábana de la cara,
los ojos estaban cerrados. Entonces, yo no dije nada, trabajé el cuerpo como siempre, I didn't say anything. I worked my body as I always do. I told it to transmit its energy well. And we started working it so it would go as peacefully as possible.
Wow. I have a question for you. Tell us about the time you faced something, you already told us about it, about when you feel the strong energy, about when little people touch you, not to mention children. But, have you ever had to work and the person you are working with has hit you in the heart?
I mean, a case that has really moved you, that has broken you, that has, I don't know, that.
Yes, I think one of the ugliest cases I've worked with ¿Eso? The moment they generate the penetration, it is very small and very soft and has no bone, it is pure cartilage. So he pushed all his organs and was bleeding in the nostrils, in the ear, and then he leaves her lying on the floor, just to get out of there, because she still had an internal eviction.
He left her alive, dying. Three months pregnant?
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Get started freeYes, three months. I mean, when they take me to this body, well, obviously, I saw her, she was all covered in blood, all over her face. And, well, obviously, I always tell you, so I saw her and her face was covered in blood. I always tell you, I saw her and I said, my angel, what happened to you?
Because that kind of injury is not normal in a baby. When we started doing the necropsy, I observed how the organs were and we saw that she was raped and all that. Her face was very serious. Her face was like... It wasn't her moment.
It wasn't the way. It wasn't the way. The suffering that was generated in that baby was ugly. The mother, who reported to the stepfather, and was the one who took her and the whole thing,
well, the lady was like, dismayed that she wasn't really in her five senses. She was like, gone, the mother. It was like, it was too much the impression that the lady was totally affected, mal, mal, mal, mal. Y no respondía como a las preguntas, como si se hubiera, sabes, como si se hubiera desconectado mentalmente. Como no respondía a preguntas, no estaba como conectada en su sent, para nada.
Entonces, no pudo ni decirnos como se llamaba la menor. Entonces, nosotros lo que hacemos, bueno, well, generally what we did there, because it was very common for newborns to arrive, because, I don't know why, but they go and throw them in the trash. So, when they found a newborn baby, sometimes with cough and placenta, sometimes alone,
sometimes with placenta, sometimes with some mental illness, I don't know, or with Downenta, sometimes with some mental illness, or with Down syndrome, or some deformity. So they took us, the babies, because they were already born. And what we did was we took turns to give them names and not leave without a name. Because all those babies, well, obviously, they come in unknown qualities.
So what we did was turn our names. For example, the doctor who was there at that time always gave them biblical names. Israel, Noah, Abraham, like that. The other doctor, the MP, generally looked for more common names.
Maria, Juan, more Mexican names. And I would give them superhero names. I would give them She-Hulk, Diana Prince, who is Captain America, and so on, Wonder Woman. I would give them superhero names so that they wouldn't be known
and at least have a man on this earth. Of course. My God, that you told me... Oh no. Tell me what you found in the person, the stepfather.
You know what happens? I try not to follow the stories. I mean, I have to work the bodies, I work them, and from there they go. The fact that you dedicate yourself to this type of work does generate a lot of controversy because you see a lot of horrible types of death. You're going to find here very ugly things.
You're going to find from the simple death of a sick person, of HIV, cancer, whatever you want, any chronic degenerative disease, to the ugliest deaths that a human being can cause. I've worked with rapes, femicides, memory deaths, and today, I can tell you that
we work a lot on the identification part. Why do they do everything? Everything because we don't identify them. They cut them. For example, in my case, I have tattoos on my arms. Sometimes they cut their arms, they cut them, which means they take all the skin off.
I've also touched women without skin, without face, without teeth, so that they don't identify them. They cut the fingers' nails here, so that we can't get fingerprints.
And who does all that? I mean, are they criminal groups?
Well, there are three criminal groups. Sometimes, I don't know, ex-boyfriends, ex-husbands. It's everything.
My goodness.
Here you find everything.
No, no, no. I mean, what's going on? I mean, on this side, the ex-boyfriend is making a deal with you, which is also something incorrect, obviously, I mean, I'm not saying that it's a bad thing, but to provoke that, I mean, it's something...
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Get started freeYes, that's what I'm saying. Here you're going to find dead bodies, and that's what causes us to have movement in our bodies, to have some reaction, to feel cold when you have a body close to you. Has that happened to you?
Yes, of course, you feel cold.
I mean, the energy of the dead, practically. Sí, claro, que se siente frío. O sea, la energía del muerto prácticamente.
Sí, sí, sí. O sea, por ejemplo, evidentemente hay lugares que son fríos, bueno, de entrada. Un seméfono o una morgue o una embalsamadora son frías. Sí, los refrigeradores y todo eso, ¿no? El frio del ambiente y otra cosa es que te acerques tú al cuerpo y sientas frío que hasta se te enchina la piel. Eso es distinto.
El frío de muerto.
El frío de muerte. En esa energía de ese muerto.
Oye, hace un rato estábamos hablando del olor. Y es que yo le estaba contando a Jessy que hace un tiempo entré a una morgue to do my research. I had to... I was in operation days before. I wasn't in the best... moment of... cleaning.
Let's put it like that. I mean, it was... It was cement plates, all rustic. It has like a channel on the edges so that any liquid can run. The sheets were all like that.
So when I entered, and one of the guys told me with whom I was going, look, the morgue is open, let's go see. Well, let's go. So I had my research tools, but really, when we approached, I've said this many times,
I had never smelled how this aroma is perceived in person, as a human being. And I was telling the animals that suddenly, oh, there's an animal out there, it must be... You can't compare that smell to It's a very strong smell. It's a very strong smell. It's a very strong smell.
It's a very strong smell. It's a very strong smell.
It's a very strong smell. It's a very strong smell. the same. For example, the dog has croquettes, and you're supposed to eat croquettes. So they don't have the same toxins as us. Obviously a dog doesn't smoke, doesn't drink, doesn't take drugs, doesn't eat fats, doesn't drink soda, etc. And we do. So when a human being dies, it's going to smell a lot of acid. Really, sometimes the acidity is so strong that even your eyes cry out of the acidity of the human body. And the phase of rotting in which they inflate and turn black, which is when the worms, the larvae, all that, come,
that's the worst phase in which the human being smells very bad. And we, for example, must get used to those smells. What I tell my students is literal. Smell it, eat it, taste it, because it's your dead body. And if you can't adapt to that smell, you won't be able to work. Because obviously, a necropsy doesn't happen in 10 minutes.
How long does it take?
At least an hour. At least an hour. In which we open the skull, in which we take it out. And obviously, as we are taking pictures, we have to have a record. So, at least it takes us an hour.
But more or less, the normal is between an hour and a half, two hours for necropsy. To be smelling all that. Yes, so imagine if you don't manage for your brain to adapt that smell. No, you're going to want to throw up. Really. And obviously, it's not just the smell of the body, of the body's poop. What I do a lot, for example,
when I take my students, I ask them about their intestines. It's a smell that I can't tell you about, because, damn it. But I do it because they also have to adapt that smell to their brain. And obviously, those who still had food. I mean, it's a combination cerebro. Y obviamente los que también tenían todavía comida. O sea, no, no, son una combinación de olores. Y si hablamos de una persona indigente, no hombre.
Aparte huele a orines, huele a patas, huele a todo con todo. Huele horrible. Ya no sabes que huele más mal si la ropa o el cuerpo mismo. Pero son olores que nosotros tenemos que aprender a adaptar a nuestra mente para poder trabajar un cuerpo. that we have to learn to adapt to our mind to be able to work on a body.
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Get started freeMy respects completely, because I wouldn't be able to do that. I think you have to have a lot of passion for your work. Obviously, I talk to you, you tell me, I like my job, I enjoy what I do, you adapt very quickly, and that's admiring yourself. Because it's not easy to deal with death. It's not easy.
I want to tell you one last story. I want to know your point of view. I wasn't going to tell that story here because it's very heavy. But nothing compared to what you're telling me. I mean, you really took it all. We call this story, The Old Lady. A person who doesn't leave us a name or a record
tells us that, up to this date, she also works as a forensic doctor. She says that, as you say, you are already used to doing all this, to have a lifestyle, everything. It's not something that amazes you anymore, you know? But this person lives something that marked him, it marked him a lot.
He says that on one occasion, this happens at night, a body arrives from an older person, He... and unfortunately, he dies. They start doing their job. The first thing they do is to take out what was inside. And here's where the weird, the suspicious part begins. Because when they take out what was stuck, it looked like a piece of meat.
But the moment they to analyze it, they realized that there was a bone inside. But it wasn't an animal bone. It was a bone that belonged to a human being. So, they, as forensic scientists, when they realized that, they said,
I don't know, How did it happen? What happened? They started to doubt how it was possible that this woman had a human bone stuck. They started to analyze the body and noticed something peculiar.
On the wrists and ankles there was a mark of wires In muñecas y tobillos tenía la marca como de alambres y tenía todavía como residuos de metal de este óxido de que la señora como que las... o estuvo, mejor dicho, amarrada por mucho tiempo y dejó estas marcas muy presentes en muñecas y tobillos. Entonces, pues imagínate
como que la sospecha empieza todavía a ser mayor. Ellos no se atrevían a preguntar in super strong, unpleasant, but also penetrating, they discovered something even more terrifying. In their stomachs, there were more bones. More bones that didn't belong to animals. They don't explain themselves and try to know what's going on. When they want to finish all the work, they document everything,
all that is done as a file, as a folder. When they finish all the work, they realize that some people arrive in trucks and enter the hospital. And they realize that they enter the director's office and they take a long time there, while, like 30 or 40 minutes.
When they were just about to start asking where the lady was coming from, all the background, what's going to happen, all the gossip, so to speak, the director comes and tells them, all the forensic scientists,
that it is strictly forbidden, forbidden, to talk about this case. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know, I don't know, I don't know. But the sound he made is not the sound we've mentioned, the characteristic of, oh, no. He said, son, no. He said these two words, son, no.
When the moment that they are manipulating. They, when they wanted to know what was happening, they were forbidden to talk about this case. But how normal or how strange is this to start with a person who has this inside of them?
No, normal, nothing. I've never seen human remains inside a human. It would be very complicated. But I can tell you that the activity of cannibalism is becoming more evident in the cereals.
Of course.
Of course, look, Mexico is a country that says we don't have cereals, but we do have a lot. So, I think that kind of death, or rather, in practice, is becoming more and more evident. But I've never touched a body
that has remains inside.
Well, in this case, I doubt that those remains have gotten there by the will of the elderly woman. By the marks that they describe as dolls and ankles, I would think that it was some kind of revenge. And she was forced.
I would see it more as a ritual.
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Some kind of ritual.
I'm going to say something very harsh, but there are people who are very crazy.
Totally. Look, the most that I have had to deal with, to this type of situation, in which I consider that they to be more ritualistic. We had a female who had more than 50 or 60 crosses all over her body. Crosses, crosses, crosses.
All over her body. Face, abdomen, legs, everything. The cause of death was actually the moment the cuts were made, the arteries were taken a couple of times. So obviously there were bleeding. What did I tell you?
We always have to look for the cause of death. But actually the background of death was not a common death. I had never seen a body with those characteristics. And I remember perfectly that with doctor we were doing it with, also told me, well, I couldn't explain exactly what they were doing here.
So I told him, this looks more like a ritual. And he said, yes, but also remember that it can also be so that they do not identify them. But no. I can tell you that today, so that they don't identify them. But... No. I can tell you that today, so they don't identify them, what I was telling you earlier, tattoos,
the fingers' pimples, maybe the face, something like that.
But the whole body is too much. But full of crosses, you say?
Crosses, literally. I mean, the cuts were crosses.
There was a story I told a long time ago where a person, a forensic doctor, the crosses. of something, of an object, drawn, and this man was involved in a ritual of occultism, of satanism themes, and things like that, very heavy, and he realizes that it was like the offering to the devil, to Satan, or to the adversary, or to the deity, but then at the end they end up because these people who are delivered have this brand, but they always need the c**t. Have you ever encountered that?
No, no, no. I've been in many situations, but none with a lack of c**t, other than the mother.
But that's normal.
It can't be a woman who has a previous sex and they take away the uterus. But the most that has happened to me is that they steal the... That's true.
So the woman who is pregnant... Pregnant and they steal the...
Obviously the... But they steal the... I can't even tell you that it's a baby. I mean, baby, I mean baby when it it's already born or it's terminated. Because a couple of times the relatives said that it was five months pregnant, that it was four months pregnant.
And then they steal the... because it's not even terminated.
But why or for what? I mean, there's no... I'm telling you, I try not to go beyond the investigation because that already belongs to the PDI, to the MP. No, no. Oh my God, can you imagine? So much evil that exists today and we realize, I mean sometimes yes, sometimes we think that all these cases occur I don't know, every year
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Get started freeor that they happen in the movies or in the documentaries especially in the documentaries of series series, sorry, of serial killers but it's really a reality it's something that happens how often would you dare to say that this happens?
It's very varied. I think that was a moment in which, maybe in Mexico, there was the peak of that kind of rituals. Because now it's been a while since.
What happens more now is the femicides, of course. And the bodies that are killed so that they are not identified. But years ago, I could tell you, without a doubt, some bodies with those characteristics,
years ago, those that came from kidnapping, deprivation of freedom, I mean, Mexico has been evolving for the worse in all those all these situations. And you always find a time when only these... For example, the ones that never fail are the bad ones.
That's right.
They are always there.
That's the bread of every day. Totally.
And it's very strange because you'll find the one that's bad with one and the one that's worth 1 and the one that's worth 30, 40, more. So, it's monumental to work with this kind of bodies, it's another level. Because sometimes you have to suture all the little holes that are made. You'll find here, really, many types of deaths
and that generates, I think, the type of energy that comes from the person. From there comes the one that you, I think, the type of energy that comes from that. That's where the ability to work comes from. Sometimes they say, it's because you can't let yourself get dressed. And you'll find a lot of people who say, it's because it's a technique to dress them. And yes, I agree, we have a lot of technique.
But even so, there are people who don't let themselves get dressed. I mean, it's very complicated to dress them. And I think that's exactly what they weren't ready to leave. Of course. Death was sudden. They weren't expecting it to happen. And so, I think that's also very hard.
That's strong, everything you've told us, Jessica. I'm really grateful to you because that information, I say it once, I apologize because we have to make some very short censors in that episode, because if not, you know how the video is, there are some platforms, but there is information that Jessica has reserved
and that will be raw and uncensored. Amiga, how did you go through it?
Very weird. For the first time, I'm going to tell you something, for the first time in a podcast, it happens to me, Amiga, ¿cómo te la pasaste? Bien raro. Por primera vez, te voy a decir una cosa. Por primera vez en un podcast me sucede, siento que algo me está oprimiendo aquí. Es muy extraño. Es que son historias que generalmente no cuento. Claro.
He pasado más de 10 años alrededor de la muerte de muchas maneras, pero hay historias que me llevo conmigo. Pero en este momento, estás como But there are stories that I carry with me. But right now, you're like scratching those stories. And I feel like something is pinching me here,
like pressing my chest, and it had never happened to me. I've always told many things, but this feeling has never happened to me. But I thank you very much for the invitation. No doubt, what you do is great. And it's good that you open the perspective to everyone, so that everyone knows.
Because today, this career is very much on the rise. A lot. A lot of people want to dedicate themselves to the forensic, but not everyone is ready for what is really experienced in the field of work.
That's right. As we talked about a while ago, the theory is very different from the practice. And that's where we face a reality that many are not ready to take that next step. Jessica, thank you very much.
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Get started freeYes, of course. It's analisisforense.oficial on Instagram and Facebook. And my personal Instagram is cuchorrojas7.
Perfect. Thank you very much, friend. Thanks to the entire community that comes with us. Instagram personal is Cucho Rojas 7. Perfect. Amiga, muchas gracias. Gracias a toda la comunidad que llega con nosotros. De verdad, agradecido por quienes terminan todos los episodios. Les mandamos un fuerte abrazo, muchas bendiciones. De verdad, que podcast tan fuerte nos aventamos esta noche.
Gracias a todos, los queremos mucho. Y nos vemos en otro episodio más adelante. Mi nombre es Paco Arias y nos vemos en otro episodio. Hasta la próxima. episode But the people who work with corpses are so used to manipulating a corpse that for them the line between having relationships with one of them is no longer as normal as a normal person.
Sometimes the working conditions don't allow you to treat it with respect. conditions de trabajo no dan para que lo trates con respeto te acostumbras tanto a trabajar con tus cuerpos te acostumbras a
de sensibilizar te eso de algunos hechos y lo que hizo esta mujer es simple y lo dijo así no los cuenta esa enfermera agarra y se mueve arriba de él y ya me and what this woman did, and she said it like that, and that nurse doesn't tell you, she grabs him and she f***s him.
And she introduces me, and I said, good evening, I'm Jessica Rojas, I'm going to embalm your wife's body. Yes, but I would like to ask you a favor. Yes, but I would like to ask you a favor. Can you cut her a**?
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