EMPAT KALI PINDAH TANGAN, SINDIKAT PERDA_9ANG*N AN*K DI MAKASSAR TERBONGKAR⁉️

I'm sorry, sir.

This is a crime against humanity.

Sir, before you called the police,

please explain to me, I really don't know anything.

He was made a bait by the main culprit, to get closer to the victims. He was afraid that the child would sell organs,

and take him abroad.

We won't go home if we don't take the child home. How many years has he been selling organs?

A few years later How long have you been selling this?

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Is it good, Boss?

Let's make it slow.

Great. thank you for from Polres Tabas, Makassar who has come here at the end, there is AKBP's chief, Mr. Devi Sujana

then there are two investigators who we saw yesterday were very crowded the one who was in the first room this is Mr. Supriyadi, an investigator and Mr. Nasrullah, both of them are from Makassar.

He's originally from Bandung.

Yes, Jogarat.

He's on duty in Makassar. Let's hear the chronology of the events, the reports, the detective, and all that, from you first, maybe.

So, the report was on the 2nd, right? The incident was on the 2nd, right? The incident happened on the 2nd, and the report was on the... 4th. 3rd. 3rd. Actually, reports like this are often made in Makassar. But based on what has happened,

mostly it's a family conflict.

A fight between the husband and the wife who are having an argument.

Yes.

Exactly like this, a lot. Yes. But this one, after we investigate, I called the reporter, and it turned out that it wasn't like that. As a coincidence, Kasumnid Jatan Ras is the nephew of Supreri Gafar. I told him to look for the clue first, until he got it here. Then, how many hours? It didn't even take a day.

One day.

One day. Okay. One day, we got this actress, a woman from there. Oh, right on that day? That day, we also got her. We did a marathon.

The one on the CCTV?

Yes. The first woman?

Yes.

Oh. This is also unique. So, in her mode that he has two children. A child who is still 6 years old. 5 and 7 years old. He was made a bait by the main character,

to approach the victims. Oh, that's how he played? The victims' parents were playing tennis. The child alone, playing in the park next to the tennis court. He was playing basketball, swimming. The victim's child was hidden.

He was asked to play.

Okay. When it was night, he was brought out. So, when he came out of the playground,

there was no resistance from the victim's child.

The child was carried.

Carried. That's why if we look at the CCTV, they were all holding each other. The four of them. The children were older. They were one year older.

Five years. They still didn't understand.

Okay. Now, the children of the perpetrators we have treatment. We put them in the UPD of anak kota Makassar because their parents are not there so their parents are in Papua now, separated from this suspect

because they might not be out there, we put them in the UPD of Makassar so the first suspect, he has two children, isn't that his child too? his child, his child, two children, his child but his father children either. His children. His children. His two children are his children. But his father, his husband, is far away, out of town. He's also separated.

This was kept so that there is no resistance from this child, no rejection.

Okay. From there.

Then, after we got information from Sri, the first suspect, we got the information that he was picked up by someone from Jakarta. From Jakarta.

At that time, he was picked up. The next day, right?

The next night, he was picked up from Jakarta. From Jakarta. We did the tracking. On the next day, we got the information that The one who called was directly to Jambi. Directly to Jambi, connecting. From Makassar, Jakarta, Jambi.

Makassar, Jakarta, Jambi. Then, I gathered the Jatahan Ras team. Coincidentally, Mr. Nasrullah has been working with me for a long time. But in the last month, he has become a POSEC member in Panakukang. He's at my house, Boss.

So he's not a member of the SS anymore. But I told him, I reported to the Police. I want to borrow this Nasrullah.

Can you?

Yes, I can. For work.

But wait, I want curious, why did you? Well, I've been working together for a long time, and maybe I'm more senior. I told him, Ula, join my team. You go to Jambi, but first, profile where the second perpetrator is.

I told him, don't go back yet. If you don't get it, it's a matter of humanity. Because we're being chased by time. At that time, there were a lot of things in our heads. We were afraid. There were a lot of issues. Organ sales, all kinds of things.

We were afraid to go abroad. So we were being chased by time. Don't let something happen. If we're late to get this victim. It was a marathon. It turned out that on the way to Jambi,

he returned to Sukuharjo, Central Java. After sending the child to Jambi, he immediately returned to Sukuharjo. So, the member had gone to Jakarta, and returned to Suk Sukarjo. We did the investigation there and got the second one, Nadia. Nadia.

We got Nadia in Sukarjo.

So, the ones who left were from Makassar, Paula and Supri?

Yes, there were four of them.

Oh, there were two more.

Yes, there were two more.

Okay.

That was also a member of Jatantras. Okay. They left Sukarjo. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay.

Okay. Okay. Okay Good response. Yes. How we negotiated with the last recipient involving the local community. That's of course not without the role of local police. Because we don't work there. There was also a social worker yesterday. A social worker also helped us yesterday.

Thank God. Dina Sosial also helped us yesterday. Alhamdulillah. Well, the last one was two people. A couple, but not husband and wife. His name was Mary and her brother. With her brother, it turned out that she had a lot of things to do. She had a lot of things to do before,

but this is what we are still doing, an in-depth study.

So, let's run through it first. The first person, what's his name?

Sri.

Who?

Sri.

Sri, right?

Sri Yuliana.

This is a Makassar person. Yes, a Makassar person. A Makassar person. He got it. Then, from his information, the second person,

Sukoharjo. Sukoharjo. The one who picked him up from Makassar and brought him to Jambi. So, he was picked up by Ana Bilkis and brought to Jambi. After that, he went back to Sukoharjo. It was all over. So, we went to Jambi first. No, to Sukoharjo.

Oh, Sukoharjo. He got his head there.

Then we went to Jambi.

So, that's the one in the video, right? The mother? Oh, that's the mother? Yes, that's N.H.

The one in the room, in the house?

Yes. I want to ask you a question. The investigators at the location, when you entered the DAPA, was it easy to meet the mother? What's her name? N.H. Nadia Putri.

Was it difficult?

From the initial process, because of the JatanRas team, my team did the investigation, searched the CCTV, so we got the one in Makassar. In Makassar,

it was developed through information from the first suspect, that he was transporting Javanese people.

Javanese people?

Javanese people or Jakarta people.

Javanese people.

So when the profiling was done, he was in the Sukuharjo area. Okay. So we coordinated with the members of the Polda and Polda Sukuharjo.

Sukuharjo, Polda Jogja.

Polda Jogja.

So the initial profiling of these two people was done in Makassar?

Yes.

Okay, and then what happened next? So we were ordered by Pak Hassad to go to Sukuharjo first because the key witness was there. This person. Yes.

He was on the road. person. He was walking.

He got there.

That's why we were fully backed up there with members of Jogja and Sukuharjo. Was there any problem when you were being beaten?

No.

No? It was smooth?

You were silent?

Yes.

I went straight home.

You went in.

Were you surprised?

I was surprised. He was surprised. He was surprised.

He pretended to be surprised. He pretended to be surprised and he didn't know. Who came in first? Paula. Paula came in.

How did Paula come in? On the morning, we knocked and she opened the door. We went straight to the point. Where is the child that you took from Makassar? Oh, straight away?

Straight away.

How was it? Still avoiding it for the first time. But we showed it. We got the CCTV that we had. This one, this one.

This one.

We were talking to each other. You're honest, you're helped. I'm like this. I was helped, so that he could talk. Finally, with the help of my heart, I sold it to Jambi. How much did I sell? 15 million, he said. At first, he admitted it. At first, 15 million. But it turned out to be 30 million.

Okay. So, throughout the interrogation, did he finally admit 30 or did he still insist on 15? He insisted held 15. 15. The one who bought this said, I gave him 30.

Oh, from the buyer? Yes.

Okay. After that, after we clarified the profiling, who bought it, we immediately left. Preparation to the airport. This left by plane, right? Yes, we were backed up from the DIA and Resmob. Coincidentally, our captain was an ex-resmob.

Ex-resmob from Jogja and Jawa Tengah. So, after that, we immediately went to the standby at the Resmob post office. The DIA, the DIA's residence. While waiting for the flight. After the ticket, we went straight to the airport. While we coordinated with Pol Dajambi, we were going there.

Alhamdulillah, he was a former member of Lampung, so he coordinated with us. Oh, so you were in Lampung, so it's good Yes, so the coordination is safe

Oh, because you're from there, in Jambi

That's what we need, right? So, the help from the members is very smooth Okay Even there

Where to go first? Kerenci first?

Postco Resmob first Postco Resmob Jambi Resmob Jambi It was a coincidence that my ex-boyfriend was also in Tresmoke. So, we were invited. We were immediately ordered by BKFUL to go to Kerinci. We did our research there. With the Buser members of Kerinci.

Polres Jambi also helped. Polda also joined. We also coordinated with Polres Kerinci. But, we arrived there in the morning, on Friday morning. These are the three people you are looking for, right? Yes, these two people.

The first one, who was taken by the police. The one who picked up, already got it. The third person. The third person, the one who bought it. Who is this person who bought buyer? Jambi. Jambi.

Bungko. Bungko, the area there. Near the Merangin area.

Who is the initial?

MR. And the last one is the woman? MR and AD. MR and AD. AD. Okay, okay. Next. We did the investigation,

and Alhamdulillah, it was blessed on Friday too. Suddenly, I got a sign that her husband was praying on Friday in the mosque. We all went in.

When we entered, Alhamdulillah, maybe, I got a sign from the one above. When we entered the mosque door, suddenly, the first thing we saw was this husband, the one who was being worshipped.

He was standing straight up. This is it. You can see it. Yes, the sunnah prayer was first. Then after the sunnah prayer, I immediately moved to the back, right?

To make sure. He was already aware. I immediately moved to the back to make sure. Oh, he didn't realize it? He didn't realize it. All the members were spread out.

There were those on the right, left, and back. Oh my God.

There was even one member who was accompanied by the prayer.

Okay.

After the prayer, we followed him. Follow him. It's in the video, right? Oh, no, no direct confrontation, right? No, no. We pray first. video oh no, no direct confrontation? So, when we opened the door, we found his wife in the room.

We immediately pulled her out. To the point, where is the child you took from this NH? He was shocked. He said, no, no, we already secured the NH. Where is he? He finally admitted it.

Did he fight back at first?

He did, he did. He said, where is your son? He said, he's not here anymore. We already knew. Okay, next. He said, he's been sold.

How much did you sell? 80. 80? 80.

Where did you sell it?

In Mentawai. Mentawai is in Merangin. We went deeper into it, and after we secured it there, we brought it to the Kinci Police Station. We didn't want it to be just a rumor. We had to verify it first, and it was sold there. And it turned out to be true, Bang. It was sold there. How did you know the information was true?

From the communication facts. Oh, the checks?

Yes, the checks.

Oh, there were a chat and everything We checked and it was true We coordinated with Polres Merangin Mr. Kasat's informant Mr. Kasat again, the one who works The strategic manager

The position is there We were connected with Polres Merangin While we were walking, we were sent the number This one. Connected? Yes, we were walking. We contacted them. They were waiting for us there. We walked there.

It took us about 4 hours to get back. We coordinated and consolidated until that night. It turned out that the product was sold to one of the vendors.

That's what made it so interesting.

Because all the members were surprised wow it can be handed over by the tribe ASD but at first you before we went further

there must have been a little this seems to be running here did you think this would reach ASD at first?

we didn't believe it We didn't believe it.

You didn't believe it? When the government reported it, I was like, Oh, that's right, everything was checked again. How could it go to the middle of the forest? The position is in the middle of the forest, right? Yes, it's weird, right?

How could it be in the middle of the forest? You want to take children from far away from Makassar, right? from M to 80 million there are other hands there are after being sold to people there handed over to people with 85 million he is lucky 5 million

eh?

okay, there are other people

we have to note the one who is rough sells to the pro what? Sukoharjo Sukoharjo how much was that? 30

30

no, 5

5 million Sukoharjo sold to the next one 30 So, 25 25

This one, 30 sold to

80 SAD, 80 Then, change again

50 There's more SAD 80, untung 50. There's more.

He moved to his friend. His friend. 85. 85, untung 5. 5 million. Oh my God.

From his friend, where did he go last? That's the last one. He's in the last hand. Oh, this is the person from the elementary school.

SAD. SAD elementary school. Elementary school.

Elementary school, sorry. Elementary school.

In the end, what did you get for the last one?

We...

We got a lot. We got a lot. We got a lot. We got a lot. That's why I also asked for help from the police. Thank you for your help. So, there are involved, besides police members,

there are also social workers. Social workers, community leaders, traditional leaders. Yes, traditional leaders. It was a lot of people. How many people were there?

About 10 people.

The problem is in the middle of the forest. Communication is limited.

Excuse me, but the picture of the middle of the forest is really the middle of the forest. In the forest. In the forest.

Is it possible to enter without a car? You can enter by car, by road. But you can't use a handphone. So, the researchers, the participants, can't access the person holding the child. There are several intermediaries.

And among those intersections, we can't communicate by phone. For example, what do we negotiate? We want to go there, he has to walk there. Because he doesn't have a phone.

So, it takes a long time.

That's why the device takes two days.

Two days. Two nights and one day.

Two nights and one day. It's like that. It's so hard, boss. We also don't know where the child's position is.

It's not visible. It's not visible.

In the forest. In the forest, maybe in the house or something. We don't know. Okay. The problem is there. That's why I told the members,

this is for the enforcement of the law, we have to move forward. But the most important thing is safety. From this victim's son. Because from the beginning, my mission is that this child must be safe. I thought it had to be this,

but the most important thing is that the child must be safe. That's why yesterday we negotiated, with the help of all parties, and ALOT too, this child can be back safely. What is Alot? What makes Alot?

The last hand, the purpose is for the case, to adopt a child. The purpose is to adopt a child. So, for a few days, maybe he has

with humans, there may be a chemistry, a love for this child. That's probably a burden to give up. Then, Mary's modus, she made

as if it was an adoption document,

a consent from her biological parents. Which Mary? The last one? The one in Jambi, in Kerinci. The one with 80 million people? Yes.

80 to 85, right?

Okay.

He made a letter of adoption, as if there was a consent from his parents. Although adoption is not always like that,

it has to go through a court. Yes, that's right. But that's what convinced them. The Secretariat of Education has a letter of adoption from his parents.

Oh, I'm sorry. I caught it, the one who adopted here, who is the initial? We don't know who the last one is. The last one who adopted here, the one who is the in-laws, this SAD. He doesn't know if this is actually... The result of kidnapping.

Oh, he doesn't know.

The perpetrator said he couldn't take care of it anymore. Because he doesn't have a job, he's already separated from his husband. Okay, that's the information from Mary. It's all made in one paper. There's a paper, there's a material. Even though adoption is not like that,

there must be a court decision, there are many steps, but maybe that's the knowledge. For Mary herself, based on our development, she has done 9 similar things.

9 times. The remaining 8, we still...

Process it first.

Process it first. For Nadia, besides being in a relationship with Mary, she also has a relationship with other people. This is what we are still investigating.

Which one is Nadia? The one in Soekarjo. Oh, the one with 30 million?

Yes, so with Mary herself, he is three times. But there are several times when he is not in coordination with Mary, but with other people.

Outside Jambi.

Okay, different input, right?

Different input.

Different voice. Yes, that's right. From other provinces too, that's why it's already crossed the province. Oh, so the netizen term that there are unions behind it all, does it mean that there are some people? Because on Facebook, there are a lot of people, right? For the union, we are still in the process. It can't be decided yet? We can't decide yet because their communication is also when there is, when it is needed,

when the needs and demand and supply meet, there is a transaction. They communicate through Medsos. So many Medsos device accounts, Medsos groups, are child adoption groups and so on.

Oh, wrapped in that. Well, wrapped there. So when the need and what is there, meet, it has happened.

Okay, let's continue. Let's solve the problem inside. It means that there is a tool of emotional bonding. Then there must be a tool of the system, in our term, the bureaucracy. If, yes, it's difficult, this is a tribe, right?

Entering, there is a risk. If we move too hard, there can be consequences. So we have too hard, there can be consequences. So we have to play tug of war, right? It's like, is there a request for money,

a bribe from them for the settlement at that time? Because I heard there was a request for the value of Mr. Jero's car, they said. There is no. The narration. There is no. There is no, right? There is no. It's purely a matter of negotiation. There's no such thing. That's the problem.

Our communication can't be direct. Can't be direct. Can't be direct. And also, we can't meet the person who holds the last one. If it's a transaction that's not human, for example a car, a motorcycle,

we force ourselves to go in and catch one by one. It's okay if the car is going to be a mess. This is human, right? That's what makes the tools so useful to the members. What's important is that we get the victim safe. The members are safe, but the victims are safe too. If it's the members, God willing.

Because what can we do to the members? There's no problem attacking the passengers. The passengers were trained. The important thing is that the victims returned to safety. Nothing happened. But, the two investigators there, were you ever emotional?

Yes, I was.

Who was the most emotional? Was it Mr. Supriya or Mr. Lula?

I was.

Were you? I was the most emotional. Was it Mr. Supriya or Mr. Lula? I was the one who was hot. Why? What triggered you? Because we waited for so long. Our brains were thinking, don't let the child die. So that they can be suspicious.

So I told them, Sir, we came here with a an order. And our souls are calling because we all have children. We feel that the child is our child. So we want to go back.

We will not go home if we don't take the child home. Oh, the ultimatum came out.

How did he respond?

After he was told, in Mr. Adi's words, everything was already settled at that time, when we negotiated. Yes, because he was very fast in speaking. So, they had a chance to negotiate, we backed off again,

so they could negotiate again with those people. And it went on for a long time, we will wait for the results. That's what makes us the most emotional, but we try to hold on. To face the patient Leo. Because it's like this,

I can also imagine if I were in the position of a father, our concerns about what's wrong is already something is very high. That triggers our emotional feelings as humans. Seeing the extreme natural conditions, with the condition of the child who has just been

settled for a few days, that is what becomes our basis that don't let this happen to the child. But one thing that we plant in mind, we didn't want to do anything more,

but the child would be in danger. That's right. That's the main lesson. We made a very careful consideration to save this child. And finally, after the last statement, there was such a firmness, what made them finally,

it's like a grandfather, it's like a grandfather. So at that time we saw again, right? You've been to the MetSource, right? We saw, sir, this is kidnapping. How, how did you feel if your child was kidnapped, taken away? Yes, we touched again with that. Oh my, this is humanitarian. when we explained it like that. So, it still took a few more hours, Bang,

to get the result. They had another session, we went out to wait again. That's how it was. We went in and out, in and out. Alhamdulillah, thanks to the patience

and prayers of all the people, all the friends, finally, that night, there was an answer for him to give. There were some Ustaz in video call with him. Yes, Alhamdulillah.

We ask for prayers, Ustaz Dasat Latif,

all the Ustaz in video call,

all the teachers.

So many. So, please allow me, during the journey, we contacted 7 trainims to pray.

Coincidentally, this is the name of the pilgrim.

Yes, they said Hafiz Kur'an.

He's a doctor. He's my senior in college.

But, if we take it this way, so that the people understand, this process is actually concerned if we do tactical legal action, we can, we can, we can. As long as it's not a child. If we do it, the child is not safe.

And there is a failure. Not only a failure, not just a sleep talk, but you will be finished. Why do you act excessively, that's what we think. Who is that person, Why did they do that? That's what we're thinking. Who was that person?

There must be someone among them, and because of him, we're able to help. It was a collaboration with them. So, the social workers, the police, and the community shops,

they all came together. We were talking. We were trying to get communication from the heart. Because with violence, I was sure that with violence, repression would fail. That's why we were talking from the heart. Open up. Come on.

Please open up your heart. I went to the camp to negotiate, but it turned out that the child was not there. If the child was there, we could coordinate to Pak Kasar. We could go to Pak Kasar. You could check the waves.

But the child was not there. That's what reduced our intention to do other efforts. The child was not visible to us. The profile was not visible. It could be further. It could be more inside.

How do they live? Like they build houses. What is it? Just like that. There are also those who still sleep in tents. Tents.

They build tents themselves?

And it's really no man's land. They move around. The tents were made by him by himself and he moved from place to place

to the chocolate farm in the forest and they didn't take a shower for 6 days

because they slept in the car

yes, there was no toilet no hotel, no nothing

they slept in the car

they slept on the road, in the car, and in the mosque

that's how they slept

that's how they lived but it was fun in the car and in the prayer room in the bed in life, you become a detective

but it's fun but there is also satisfaction and pride that's why we are also very proud you can come here we thank you for the effort

you have done in my opinion, this is a small thing but this must be a lot of drama yes, really because we are talking about tribes. There's a question from the netizens.

Who wants to answer? Is it true that, so far, when it comes to the tribe of the Inland, there's an indication of a legal violation? We just heard it,

and in Indonesia, there's no legal violation, right? No matter who it is, there's no legal violation. And this is just after hearing the narration. Maybe the narration can be there because it's difficult to access the law to them. That's the term, right? The difficulty is because their lives are changing, playing in the middle of the forest, and there are consequences of counterattacks that can eventually cause chaos.

If it's chaos, then no. Because maybe the police are enough there. There's the police, the police, the police, everything is there. There are also side units like the TNI. Actually, it's not chaos. But purely, if we are repressive,

the safety of these children is what we consider. Worried, right?

Yes, that's right. If it's chaos, they won't go there.

But do they have the guts to attack back? We don't know yet.

We can't measure it yet. But how is the communication? It's smooth, right?

Smooth. Is there any from their side, there are the DINSOs, a head of the family, do they have any kind of a grudge?

No.

No? So, from the family, it's the one who accompanies. Okay.

Accompanying for a day.

The mothers are the ones who accompany.

There are two.

Oh, there are two? There are people there. People there. It's been tens of years there. So, they with the Polres members. It was quite close, the emotional connection.

We asked for help through them. In the end, we were able to connect, to transfer what we meant to them.

What was her name?

Ibu Nurul. Ibu Nurul. Her father's name was Pak Anjurul. She was the one who tried to enter. And she wanted to be heard. Anjurul. Oh, so he was the one who tried to get in. And he wanted to be heard. Alhamdulillah.

Even though there were some obstacles at the beginning, but he got in again. He didn't give up. After being rejected, he got in again.

Okay.

Until they finally decided to return this child.

Yes. The process of transaction return transaction took place.

Yes.

Was there any cost?

No, there wasn't.

Did they bring the child? The one who picked her up was the mother of the social worker. They didn't want to meet us. So, in a way... Because they were afraid of being caught. If they gave up, they were afraid.

When they gave up, they were afraid of being caught. Maybe that was their thinking. Maybe their thinking is that if the child is seen, the one who brought him is the one who is trapped. That's what they're afraid of.

So Mrs. Nurul and Mr. I went to pick them up. There was a community store.

A community store.

Two men invited one Mrs. Nurul A man invited one of the Bunurol members inside. So, a few people went inside. Only four people. So, they were picked up. So, they couldn't see you? No, they couldn't.

So, they accepted you? Yes, they accepted me. When you first met Billkis, what was on his face? He was confused. And he hadn't made friends with us. So, he was scared? was Bill Case's position was quickly adapted. Not long after that, he was close to me.

That night, too. Then he wanted to tell a story. Tell a story. You were a fideokoll with his parents. We wanted to make sure that we were the ones who came to pick him up.

So, Adi fideokolled his parents. Bill Case was crying at that time. His parents were crying. Was Bill Kiss crying at that time? His parents were crying. Was Bill Kiss sad when he was arrested? Not yet. How old was Bill Kiss?

Four years old. So he was still confused. When I saw his parents, I was happy that it had started. I told Bill Kiss, join the government.

Thank God, he got it. After that, when he got home, he asked me a lot of questions. He asked me a lot of questions. He hasn't been able to communicate well. Oh, he hasn't been able to communicate well.

This is Bilkis' father.

Where are you?

Greetings.

Where are you going with the camera?

Bill Kiss, hello.

You're shy, you're shy. That's it, I'm going to take a shower. Yes, be healthy, Nandi. Live long.

Always be healthy. Good luck. I'm Because I have five children. So, our trauma in the police force is that what we do is afraid to be affected by us too. So we planted empathy to find that child and we thought that Bil Bill Kiss is our child.

That's it.

That's what makes you feel emotional.

Emotional.

That's what makes us human. Yes. Someone asked, the process of Bill Kiss' transfer is quite long, right? Yes. In the form of letters and all kinds of things,

when he got on the plane, there was definitely nothing, right? All kinds of things. How did he explain his move through the path? He made a fake identity. What's his name?

Anokhundan.

Anokhundan.

Who's that?

Nadia has prepared... She has prepared a fake identity for this victim's child.

She will buy a ticket online.

So, he still took a plane. He took a plane from Makassar to Jambi.

He made a plane too. It's a plane from Makassar to Jambi. So it's a fake ID?

Yes. All the IDs are fake in the airport.

For Bilki? For her child. Her child's nickname is not yet online. Not like us adults. For a fake ID letter, it's still 4 years old. So it's already prepared.

It's already prepared. With the NH. Oh, it's used in a system way. It's still a child, right? If it's an adult, it's obvious. If it's a fake, it can be found out right away. These are children.

Yes, so people don't really check it out. Especially at the airport, they just follow along. They don't cry. If it's at a crowded airport, people will be suspicious. People are suspicious. Oh, it's answered. So, it's not fake, it's made.

So, people often play together.

Often.

Yes, often. This N is several times. We can track it for a while. There are five for a while. There are five, maybe later,

there are still other developments. This also opens up other's eyes. But they watch this. They can be careful.

Yes.

Hey, you. Because I once did a podcast here. There were two, uh, there were two mothers. She was looking for her son named Kenzie. Kenzie has been missing for a long time. I was going to give her a present if I met her.

It's been three years, right? Yes, it's been about three years.

Two years.

Yes. But until now I we haven't found it. And there's also Alvaro Chiano, who also until now we haven't found. I hope this opens a positive discourse. Yes, Amen. Because, what do you mean,

this society is very dependent on the institution. If I'm personally, sir, the problem of the cost, I will definitely help. We will definitely help. But this is human life.

Yes, that's right.

It's the same as loving a parent and a child. Sorry to say, right? You can't replace it with anything. With this exhaustion, what do you hope we can give to the people? In addition to the form of appreciation from the Polres Tabes Makassar team and the ranks and related parties

in Jambi, Sukoharjo, DI and all What do you want to say?

I want to say to the people that the police's duty is to protect and empower the people. This is the main job that I always teach the members. We have to be the life support for the members. And make sure that the police in Indonesia are the same. The proof is that what happened in Makassar was backed up by the police in all regions.

So, the people should not worry. If you are afraid of what happened here, please report to the police. We are ready to serve. Especially for the people who know or if there is a single-party criminal case, they should immediately report it.

Immediately?

Immediately report it. Because the speed of reporting becomes one of the determining factors of how we take the next step. Sometimes it's too late to report. We also... It's hard to track. It too late to report. We also find it difficult to track. That's for all the criminals.

That's the most important point. Now we want to take another perspective. Is there a possibility of kidnapping of a child like this from the data and information available to the sale of organs?

We haven't found anything for this one yet.

We haven't found anything for this one yet.

Not yet?

Not yet.

We were afraid to go there yesterday. We were in a hurry.

That's why we were in a hurry to go there. But for now, we haven't found him.

Because they're aiming for adoption.

Okay, praise God. So there's still hope for people whose children have not been found yet. Because we have to give them hope. Because if the organs are already in the womb, I'm sorry, that's God's mercy. It's heartbreak and all that.

Now, is it difficult to bring it abroad?

We haven't found it yet.

You haven't found it yet, right? Although it might be there, but it hasn't been found yet, right? Not yet. Not yet. So we're still playing the Indonesian region, right? Yes.

Okay, this is really open. And these are now the actors that we were talking about earlier, they will be affected by a case. Yes. All of them will be charged with a case or in the end... For this case, we have two laws. The Child Abuse Law and the TPPO Law.

Yes.

The maximum sentence is 15 years in prison.

Minimum is 3 years in prison. There is a minimum.

Yes.

For this case, we have to face four people. Four people. And then there are also some parties that have some obstacles. We can't enforce the law there. Not enforce, I mean we can't make it a suspect. Because those are the obstacles we have to overcome.

Especially the safety of this child.

The one who adopted it.

Actually, he can be arrested too but we have to be safe first That's why I said at the beginning that the main thing besides enforcing the law is the safety of this child Yes, I understand

but if people want to look for the fault there is but they are not on the ground it's hard to explain it in a straightforward way hard to explain it in detail. Because the negotiation process is very difficult.

What else do we negotiate? People's lives. There are also questions from friends, that with things like this, it means that you have to help this young man. Well, in the end, this is a big task. It's a big task. Because yesterday there were some narrations, that maybe all of them ran to this boy.

No, no.

Nadia has been to Jambi several times.

Okay.

She has been to other areas. Okay, that's interesting. There are other areas in Sumatra too, but it hasn't been announced yet. Okay. Nadia is not only in the area of, where else? Bali, right?

There was Batam yesterday.

Nadia is not only in Jambi, so it's not only Sumatra. Okay, so we can't just assume that all of this is covered by...

No. We can't, right? So, Nadia is the key? Oh, where is Nadia? Sukoharjo. Oh, the one in the video? But, can we talk to...

who was it again?

Nadia. At least, ask a little. A little, okay?

Yes, sure.

Now, it's being checked, right?

Yes, it's being added.

Okay. I'm in the middle of an additional check. Oh, okay. This is a screen recording, right? Yes, sir.

May I?

Assalamualaikum, Mrs. Polwan. Yes. May I? I want to talk to Mrs. Nadia. Mrs. Nadia?

Yes? Can you hear me? Yes, I can hear you. Yes, sir. How many years have you been selling children? Not until a year, sir. Oh, not until a year. How many children have you ever sold? I'm foreign some of them I'm always healthy. There are people like that. But, the name of the person is...

Smart, right?

What is communication?

Smart. This is a lesson. Let's continue. If we don't get the facts, then we interrogate, it will be a failure. the police must be smart too. If we get the evidence, then it's good.

So, A, we must have the right strategy.

Oh, he's a strategist.

Yes.

What made you decide to leave immediately? Actually, there are many cases in our port establishments. Many. Everything is still in the process. But there is still a priority scale that needs time. Like this, the speed of time, we are chased by time.

If it's the same as the others, it's not going to get it.

We are also chased by time.

And this is also a life. Yes, that's right. It's one of the life-saving technologies. But there's still a lot of work to be done. Kenzie was talking about her own problem. I hope you can help. I want to thank the team at SOS who have published the news,

so as to give guidance to the community to take care of the children, then educate them by successfully bringing Bill Kiss home, so that there are no more victims, not to be separated from the role of the social media teammates. Yes, Bill Casey's face is not separated from all of his social media friends, in my opinion. And the one who is most appreciated is the people on the field.

Because on social media, there is no consequence of life. If on the field, the consequences of life are very big. And including Mr. Kaset himself who arr managing the strategy, it's not easy.

Because the members are also great.

Yes. You can tell the members are great, but the boss is also great.

If the boss is not great, you can't tell who's great.

If the boss is a macho, we're also macho.

Yes, sir!

Life is macho, right?

Life is love. Yes, sir! Long live, Mancan! Long live, my love! Yes, yes! Thank you so much, see you later! Stay healthy on your journey, sir!

Thank you, greetings first!

Thank you, sir!

Thank you, my father! Wow, that was so cool! Wow, that was so cool!

Amazing!