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So this jumper, 12 months ago, a youngish woman, say mid -30s, her husband had a cardiac arrest and passed during a football match.So she set up this clothes company called Able Maid around football.And the heart is basically her husband's heart.And unbelievably, she's done $4 million of revenue in year one for her business.So she's literally had this trauma in her life.She's down in reception.

Me and Roy bought jumpers and hoodies off her.She's just raised $2 million to take it throughout America to raise awareness for cardiac arrests in sport and football.Yes, Ian, how are you?

Tired.

Why are you tired?Because you know why you're tired?I know why you're tired.No, it's nothing to do with that.I saw you with a jug of picante last night on a rooftop, and you've now, this morning, gone under on us.Is that true?

I can't stop drinking that picante.

You can't stop drinking Picante.

I ordered one when I had half left and I felt like I was struggling.

As I left you, I thought, you've had about a gallon of Picante.

I'm like, what is it?

Picante.

Do you know what it is?

It's a fancy drink for fancy people that come from the south of England.It is something that if you ordered it in Manchester, you'd get like a punch under the...You'd get headlocked and punched.If you ordered Picanti in Manchester, they'd be going like, Picanti?What's that?What's that?

We know what the spirit is in it.Do we know what the spirit is in it?

I'll find out.I think it's tequila.You think it's tequila?Or rum?

You might be wrong, girl.I just like the sharpness of the pepper in it.

It's tequila.It's tequila.There you go, you see.And I'm telling you, this jug was that big.And by the way, there wasn't just one jug, there was two jugs.There were two jugs.

I didn't really drink in my career.

But you're making up for it now.

I just think that being on my own this long is just ridiculous.I'm like a child.I can't sleep unless I speak to my missus.Can I go to...I've got a sleep story.I have to have a sleep story to go to bed.

Otherwise, I need something to focus on.I like...You know the white noise and the sound of the sea or a New York, like, just, like, the noise of, like, New...Or the street, and then I can sleep.Look at Ian's jacket, eh?Cool, innit?

All the lads...You know what I love about this jacket is that I got into this squad after they come back from the World Cup.I was meant to go to this.I was meant to go to this 90 -90, but, like...Who made that jacket, Ian?I don't know what it is, I can't remember.

Jess, Jess, Jess sorts it out for me.Who is it?

Oh, yeah.Pastas and Parma?Yeah, nice.It's cool, no?Yeah.All of these, like, I love them.

You just can't work out what you're doing with your zips, though, can you?

Well, to be honest, I like it, like, yeah, but, like, I just wear it like that.Cos when you sit down, can I show you?Cos when you sit down, it rolls up, it goes all weird, look.Why did you host this morning?I'm not, because I've been drinking fucking...

So yesterday morning, I was at breakfast with Karen Carney, and Zidane's walked through the hotel twice now, and she's just, like...Desperate to get a picture.And I said, right, this is it.He's over there, he's sat there, Zinedine Zidane.I said, you're gonna go over, and you say, look, my name's Karen, I used to play for England, women's team, I'd love a picture with you.And he is?

Yes, Roy, you've got to be kidding me.

in.Oh, it's a bit cosy.

Yeah.

Hello, Roy.

There you go.I was like, where is everybody?

What's he say to Kaz?So, Karen goes over to Zizou, and she's basically there, and I can see him smiling, and she goes like that, and she has a lovely picture of herself with him.I'll get the picture.He's got a beautiful picture between Karen and Zidane.He walked past us twice.He walked past you the other morning, and you went...

He knows you from somewhere.But Zidane is a bit of a...He is, isn't he?

Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

This is Zizou and Karen.That's lovely.You heard it?He was a great player.Absolutely.Magnificent.

I think he was at Bordeaux, wasn't he?And he was a bit, like, heavy in his body.He was quite...Like, build was heavy.And all of a sudden, he goes to Juventus and he just...

He's like, you see him now.Because United were trying to get him, weren't they?Everyone was chatting about him and he was coming to United.

Yeah, he did look...I remember when Patrick and...When they talked about him, they talked about him like it was lorded.Like a god.They'd always start a conversation, that's the thing.Was it Bordeaux he was at?

Bordeaux?

Was he down at Bordeaux?

Yeah, with Dugary.

Dugary, yeah.Do you know, because of what's happened with Ronaldo and Messi, And the Brazilian Ronaldo gets mentioned, he very rarely gets mentioned as one of the greatest of all time So is it Dan?So do you think about, we always say Cruyff or Maradona, Pelé, you always say Messi, Ronaldo.Zidane has crept into that.

I don't know, I think he's just underneath.

He's close.So what differentiates him not being amongst them when he's won everything like that?Not me, I would put him up there.Yeah, no, I get it.It's like Figo, Figo and Zidane, you think they don't get put up there.No, no, no, Figo's good.

not...You don't think Figo's the same?Great player, but I think Zidane's bigger than Figo.Even though I think Figo's documentary is still the best documentary I've ever seen.I've not seen it.You've got to watch it.

Can I tell you something?It's got everyone in it, all the protagonists.But you get fed up with these documentaries.

We're getting brainwashed by documentary.

You've got to watch this.

Remember, it was about the Galacticos and the start of the Galacticos.Well, what do we need, truthfully, what do we need to watch to kind of learn from that, truthfully?Watch about who, like, you know what I...Yes, well, I asked...Yeah, but, like, when I watched it, Because of the fact that, when that happened, he's like, my God, he's leaving Barcelona, he's going there.And then you've got a situation where we can find out everything.

And everybody was involved in it, Roy.This is what I say to you to watch.I've told you before.The same with...Who's everybody?

You mean agents?

The agents.Everybody who's had something to do with it is in the...The deal...is in the show.So you can get answers from everybody in the end.

So I don't want to give anything away, but you know who the bad guy is.No, because you need to watch it.You know who initiated everything.

But why does it have to be a bad guy?

It's not even a bad guy.Maybe it's the wrong way, but you know who initiated everything, who wanted this to happen.

The president or something?No.

Who are you talking about?

Figoes.You've got me intrigued now.

You've got to watch it, because I need you to watch it so you can see we come to the same conclusion, Roy.I'm sure we will.

Are you talking about the transfer from Barcelona to Real Madrid?Yeah.So who made that happen, you mean?Yeah, and how it happened, how it came about.

It wasn't one of his team -mates.

Was there a twist in this?

No, no.

And who's...

What's the name of the guy?How much did he go for already?Was it crazy money at the time?Yeah, it was.Ian, tell us the answer, cos I'm not going to watch this documentary.

I'm not going to watch it.No, I'm not.Tell us, we're not going to watch it.No, that's lazy.We're football people, and that is a seminal moment for football and what happened with the Galacticos.But we're not going to watch the documentary, so we want the story.

The story is...The Barcelona captain leaving Barcelona to go to their biggest rivals in Real Madrid and they start the Galacticos.Why do I need to tell you more than that?There's so much on that list.Who's the bad guy?

What's this bad guy thing, though?I don't want to tell you the bad guy.

There has to be a bad guy.But why don't you want to tell us?

Because you have to watch it yourself, so that when we speak about it, then we can all have a different opinion.What if we threaten you?

We're not going to let you leave the room, you grab him.

I don't care.I've had that before.My brothers used to do that to me all the time.Can I have a spoon?

No, I will watch it right here.

Honestly, I'm desperate for you to watch it.So he was the first Galactico?

Is that right?And it all started from that?I didn't know that much, to be fair.Was he the first Galactico?

Well, when you watch it, you'll see, OK?So this is what I'm saying.Instead of us coming back with stupid retort, you'll watch it and you'll be able to say something of real substance.

That bacchante's made you really angry this morning.

It's not made me angry.I drank too much of it, though.On last night?Yeah.I drank too much.You're a bit tipsy.

I'm not tipsy.I wasn't tipsy.You know what I mean?I liked the vibe.Well, I carried you to your room.Do you remember that?

I was walking round looking for soup.

No, I always used to class it when I used to drink.I always classed it as a bad night if I remember getting home.

You know, I don't really drink that much.It was a nice setting.The drink was nice and cold.It was lovely.It was amongst people, two minutes away.Nice ambience.

Lovely ambience.Yeah, I felt really good.I wasn't like, oh, God, the room's spinning.You know what I mean?It's just like, I feel really nice.

That's the worst feeling ever.Oh, the room, I put your foot out the bed.The worst one for me is when you go to the toilet when you had a drink, if you've drunk too much, and your head just falls towards the wall.You know that one?

Just the one where you just buck the wall.The thing I like when people have been drinking, you go in the toilet and you see someone holding them.wall.That's the holding the wall is the best one.God almighty, it's brilliant.Happy days, huh?

It's official, the world's gone football mad.We're here in New York for the next six weeks and we're delighted Sky Better are joining us for the ride.We've got loads more episodes on the way, so hit subscribe, get your comments in and stick with us all summer.How many?of that 1990 team that had on Ian's jacket get into this current team.

You have a choice of a strike, you think.If he gets one chance, he's going to put it away.Who will it be?

I'll go with Ian again.

Wow.You did drink a lot last night.It's a stealth advertising break, isn't it?Of course it is, Gary.We're in America, right?So it's like, it is, it's a time out.

And the rules are meant to speed the game up.What it's doing is stopping the flow of the game.

Nil -Nil's not a bad draw for the back four, but if it's a 2 -2 and we've made mistakes at the back, that would be a problem.

When I saw that team sheet come out of Brazil, I was thinking, I'm not afraid of them, they don't have that no more.

I don't think Scotland should be in the mindset going, we've got our three points now, could we get through with three points?No, no, no, I think you can get results against Morocco and Brazil, really do.How long have we been here, by the way?It gets to that point where you just forget.Today, I feel it's been...Roy, six days.

Today feels long.You know what I mean?Do you know why?Because England haven't...

The tour hasn't kicked off yet.No, it doesn't feel that way.I just feel so excited.I've got such a vibe.Do you think it's cos we're so close to everything?There's a whole house round the corner.

I don't know if we're in a great place.The hotel is lovely, but the studio just there feels a bit...Do you think we're too close?

I don't know.

You'd like to have somewhere where we can...I don't know.I don't know what to think, but it just feels a bit...I woke up tomorrow night, do you know?How cool is that?I'm homesick today.

I miss me family, my dog and my own mug and my own bowl of cereal.You know, every morning, going out for breakfast and engaging with people, it's tiring, isn't it?No, it is.It's not normal, is it?

When you sit at home, you're in your own kitchen on your own, I went to Starbucks this morning at 6 o 'clock, I just had to get out.I was a little bit the same, I thought, Joe...Yeah, just a bit of you time.Yeah, I just went over to Starbucks over there.I do like Brooklyn.Oh, I love Brooklyn.

Do you know something?So I was thinking, New York for six weeks, I've had some bad experiences.I was, yeah.Everyone says it's amazing, it's amazing, and I'm just not having it at all.And then Brooklyn changed my mind.Same here.

We love Brooklyn.Lived in, beautiful place.

When you say you like Brooklyn, Why do you like it?There's a nice energy to it.There's a nice calmness and everybody seems so friendly and everybody's so cool.It just feels nice.There's an energy, Gal, that you don't feel like you have anything.It reminds me of Soho in London or the Northern Quarter of Manchester.

No, not Soho, no.They're a bit like the brick and the industrial sort of mills and the sort of...Yeah, there's a bit of that.Do you know what I like about it?No -one's walking around with a suit on.It's a big thing, you know.

If you think about it, if you go over there, it's the other side of the river, everyone's walking around quick with suits on.

It's laid back here, yeah.

Whereas here, everyone's just walking around like...

It's cos of East London.kind of energy, this one.

I love the idea as well, when we're in the restaurant, walking back in a nice evening, you know what I mean?I love wearing shorts, I'd wear shorts every day.

Gary tight pants.

Roy made me walk back.Wasn't it right for us to walk home, though, that night, wasn't it?It was perfect, that's exactly when you walk back, you've had a nice, you had about four pizzas, so you walk it off.Roy made me walk back 50 minutes, which was perfect.on.It's not 50 minutes.

It wasn't 50 minutes.And your pants...Even Rayleigh.

Rayleigh's not great physically, are you, with your knee?And he walked back.

He was delighted.It was beautiful and it was nice and it was a nice temperature, gal.You know what I mean?It was just nice for people to pass.It was a lovely meal.It's really great, gal, to be here, because, you know, I've been to Miami.

Is it West Coast?West Palm Beach, sorry.And it don't feel lived in, it's like empty, it's like 28 days later, you can go out and just walk, it's empty.And you come and it's a lived in place, you know what I mean, with people, like the business, everything that's happening, it just feels real, just feels real, like London.

I've never been to a place in America that I've really liked and I think I must have been to the wrong places and I think it's absolutely that, because in the last month I've been to two places that I love.Napa Valley in California, which is like rolling hills.What was going on there?Green.It was a...Went to a vineyard, like an event.

Vineyards in...Oh, my...

I thought you might have been hiking or something, but a vineyard, right?

Oh, it was beautiful.What was that, tasting wine?It was...Yeah.Wow.Tough life, eh?

Wow.Unbelievable.And then Brooklyn is the opposite of that.Industrial mills.So, two places I've been, changed my mind.Wine tasting, huh?

Yeah.

A little bit of wine.

You're a player, man.You've made progress.Who's that?Who set that up for you, Cal?Is that where you're like spitting it out and all that?

No, I'm not spitting it out, I drink it.Just a little bit of a drink, yeah.

You didn't put wee in the grapes and stamp it on the grapes?No, no, no, we weren't doing that.

We were getting the story, though, of the vineyard, about how they sort of have it, and do you know something, they were talking about the temperature and everything, and then there's one point, this wine, it was the point where the main guy...I don't know what you call it, what do you call it?The master...

Sommelier?

Yeah.He has to pick the point where literally a lot of the people from the local village or town come in and they have to pick them within 24 hours and they have to get them.

Timing.right.Timing.

It's like the perfection of actually the timing.There's an art to it.Pick what?The timing.So basically, they're not too ripe and they're not too...You know, it's like the absolute...

And what, they use the people from the town to taste it?

So they're the experts?No, they use the people from the town to actually pick them.So you've obviously got these acres of vines.So you can imagine that they need people to come in and put them...

And how old is the guy who decides?Is he, like, experienced, obviously?

He's 40.He's done it since he was young.It's one of the best vineyards in America.Wow.Really interesting.Yeah, he's, like, experienced.

He was brilliant, he was.and then they take you down to what the barrels are and how long it lasts.

It's a bit of an education.I do like that.

Once you get into stuff like that, because it's not something you say, I wouldn't do that, but if I went somewhere and saw that, because of the passion that they have for it, you get involved with it.

I don't know, I went on a tour in Cork a few years ago to the Middleton whiskey place.

Oh, it's expensive, that stuff, isn't it?

Yeah, but the factory, they show you all the barrels, and, oh, this is interesting, absolutely really interesting.The whiskey at Middleton Rare, Yeah, beautiful stuff.I thought I was drinking it, but the bottles look nice.You invested in it, weren't you?

So, a guy told me that you've got some rare investment...Oh, no, don't worry about that.It's this taxi driver, right?I was in Dublin, and this guy said...

It's always the taxi driver.

They've got all this inside information.Don't tell them your stuff.I didn't tell them nothing.They're barbers.A guy says, Roy's got some rare investment grade whisky, I was like, what does he mean, this taxi driver?

Famous Irish saying, believe none of what you hear and half of what you see, right?But was it true?Leave half.

I don't know what you hear and half of what you see.

This taxi driver.

But how would he know that?

He said you've been to the Middleton...Yeah, because somebody obviously seems in there and then they told somebody and told somebody.

If someone from, what's it called, Middleton Whiskey, if someone could just send us a bottle for the show, for the set, please, so we can have just, you know, a little...Yeah...little taste of Roy's whisky.No, I don't sell whisky.my stuff, yeah.

You have got a little bit there.Oh, I did, yeah, I'm not going to deny it, yeah.How many barrels have you got?Barrels?How many bottles have you got?Just a couple.

He's a conker.

You know what I love about it?I'm going to kill that taxi driver when I see him.You might have never got me from a vineyard, what he's like...You can always tell when Roy something happens because he can't hide it in his face.Is that the end of the show?

He'll be going on my relationship make -up next.

We can't talk about that.

We get too much sleep for that, Gary.We were chatting yesterday about players losing a bit of form.You know you've got two spells in your career, which never happened to me, but the lads were saying that you have a...And Nev was saying, you weren't in the room when he said it.

I was at the table.

Yeah, but when it originally happened yesterday, he says, I had six months on the back of the Euros or whatever.And he says, I was going through relationship issues.I'm like, wow.

Wow.It's cos I had such a great cap at the time, I could go and speak to you.I could go and speak to you about it.

I'm like, what are you talking about?Get over it.But you know, a full -back's going through a relationship issue.You can still stop crosses, you know what I mean?That shouldn't stop you closing a winger down.Oh, my girlfriend, she broke up with me, obviously.

She got her eyesight back.

She got her eyesight back!

Oh, but you still stopped crosses.That shouldn't affect you.

Oh, it was such a brutal ending as well.Was it Gal?Yeah.Was it you or was it her?It was her mainly.

As Bob Dylan once said, you can't be in love and wise at the same time.Nice one, nice one.So, her loss?Yeah.She could have been in California with a few weeks of tasting wine.

Yeah.Wow.Yeah, and United would have played better for six months.It's the journey Gal, it's the journey.Has anything ever impacted, this is by the way, this is just me riffing now, has anything ever impacted your football that hasn't come from, when you lost confidence or you weren't informed, what was it that caused it?

That's a good question, isn't it?No, it is, but I think...You think about it, right?You look at times when...Yeah, but when I think of sports people, I see a lot of sports people are people in the public eye when they've had issues and they've got to go to work or play sports.A lot of them said the easiest place to be is on the pitch.

Yes.It was more when...I found out if I had stuff going on, whether it be disciplinary stuff or whatever, doing stuff you shouldn't have been doing, I still found being out on the pitch to kind of...

Easiest place to be?

No.

You say that, Roy.Do you know something?When I think of some of the situations that lads were going through that we knew about and then they were still playing, I used to think, how the fuck are you doing that?And I wasn't talking about relationship issues, by the way.

No, no, no.

You think about it, and he hates that.

Well, loads have said it, but their safety kind of blanket was out on the football pitch, wasn't it?

Yeah, but for that little time.But I remember I went for a few, obviously, some stories and papers and that, and then...You've got to build up the whole week and then you've got to play the game and then after the game is, you know, leading into it.When you actually get on the pitch, yes, you do have a moment where you have that 90 minutes where you kind of forget it, but, like, there is moments in the game where you still think about, fucking hell, when I come off, what's going to happen?

Honestly, I went through that a few times because I had a couple of bad ones.But you're so righty.I pride myself on no distractions, literally, for that few months.I was thinking...My relationship break -up broke into my mind during matches and I thought, oh, I'm done here.I never think about anything like that.

I remember playing a Champions League game away in February, I can't remember where we were playing, and thinking, oh my God, I'm thinking about, like, literally, you know what I mean?going on.Imagine when you break up.It's never a simple break -up after seven years, is it?It's messy texts and all that crap, isn't it?She's texting you during the day, you're texting her, and it's all that crap, and it just goes into the game.

The football actually...

Come and speak to me, I'm serious.I've got some issues, can we have a chat?

I'm going to listen.There's no way...

What, at that time?Yeah, our therapist, Roy Keane.I'm not going to name names now, because I think you wouldn't be right, but you think sometimes now of, like, when you're talking about England players that have been left out, and people say, look, you're weird, don't we?In the last few weeks, they're struggling, they've got things going on in their private lives, and you think, that's why they've been left out, and you just think...

Yeah, but isn't part of the challenge, I think, when you're playing sport, obviously we can only talk about sport, what happens to other people, part of the challenge is, leave Dan at the door when you go to training.It has to be.It's hard work.Of course it's hard, I'm not saying it's...Because that's part of the challenge of being a sports person.You've got to deal with these challenges or an injury or contract.

You're going, you're still in the zone.Yeah, but Roy, when you...Yeah, but you said...Because, you know, there's an example here a few years ago.Sometimes a young player.Remember Luke Chadwick?

Remember Chadwick?Yes, yes.Oh, gosh, yeah.And years later, Chad's done a story where it was really affecting him.

Yeah, yeah.

When I was in that programme, they were, like, really criticising it.In the dressing room, like, we should have picked up and all that.Yeah.But you don't because you've got a game coming up or you're on the back of a defeat or a win.And you end up, like, in the dressing room, You could look after yourself a little bit, sometimes getting yourself through your own battles.

Yeah, but Roy, when a piece goes in the paper and it's not a good one, and everybody knows, like all the players, you go into training, it's fucking horrible.

Sometimes then you turn into, rightly or wrongly, you turn into a bit of banter in the dressing room, don't you?

Well, sometimes that kind of does help, that does help.Yeah, a little bit.

Yeah.

But even chatting...

It doesn't help when you turn up to England and go...Joe, my view on it was, if you think about it, imagine England fans, they spent thousands coming over here and then United fans or Arsenal fans or whoever fans, they spend hundreds of pounds to come and watch their team play weekly and they're coming in, 75 ,000 at Old Trafford, You can't take your stuff onto the pitch and lose a football match.It's like, I can't go on with excuses.Imagine after the game I had a relationship breakup boss, Roy.You know what I mean?That's why I've not played well today.

Fans, you know what I mean?They're going to go, hang on a minute.We've got to win.We don't care that we've got to win.You know what I mean?It's like...

To be honest, I don't care.

I totally accept that they don't care.Totally accept that.It doesn't make it easier.

No, they don't care, but you can't use it as an excuse.Of course you can't use it as an excuse.A bunch of guys that can't not win a league or...Arsenal can't not win a league because of someone's relationship break -up, as an example.I'm using a ridiculous example here.Or because two or three players have had issues at home.

You know what I mean?It's like...Yeah, but the thing, when it was happening with me, people would say, look how he's playing, he's not the same, he's missing chances because he's thinking about that.Because remember, it's all over the papers.And you're just trying to just focus on that, just trying to be, just stay in it.And the ball's down there and of course you're focusing on the game, but it's still in your head.

But it's harder then for what position you're in the pitch, like a striker.A lot of your stuff would have been instinct, wouldn't it?That's the thing.You're a full -back.Joke's on, I'm a midfielder.Would it affect people in different ways?

Was yours more about concentration?Yours is instinct.Yours is positioning, you're about timing.I'd score a goal, Gal.But yours is about sharpness, so if you're off it, you can spot it a mile away.

And you're missing the chance to put yourself things on his mind.

Mine was concentration.I don't think he said one word more than concentration, to defend us anyway.I felt like concentration was everything.Assessing your position.where you are all the time at every point in the game I'm sure every player does that you but your distances of like am I in there you're constantly assessing your position midfield there's a little bit more and forward If you're five yards out of position or two yards out of position in the box, no one can say you're out of position.As a defender, everyone knows when you're two yards or a one yard out of position.

You're a little bit too far out, you're not far enough in, or you're too far in and you're not far enough out, or you're too far back.Van der Ven played on the Japanese goal yesterday.I know he's two yards out of position.Whereas as an attacker, it's like, should he have been across the near post there, could he have done this as a midfielder?

But that's where the sharpness comes into it.If he's not looking sharp, you would spot the, not the two yards, but you go, How long have you taken to take the shot and stuff?Yeah, yeah, like not taking a touch and shoot.

He might take two touches.

You go, he doesn't look himself.We've often set up with strikers going, he's taking too many touches, he's taking too long.Whereas the top lads, when you're on top form, you go, wow, he looks sharp, doesn't he?He's not even hesitating.

Again, it's instinct.What about off the back of this little chat about Jill last week, doing what she did, and then she posts out that she lost her nana on the Tuesday and she carries on.

I remember I had to do one of those with Geoff Thomas and it was for cancer and stuff.When you're riding and you're riding for that reason and you're thinking about it, you're thinking, I've got to keep doing this, I've got to make sure I get this done for them.She's doing that and her nan passed.It's like, again, Jill's strength.Because everybody sees Jill and she's full of life and full of fun.You know what she's like.

She loves everything.It made me so sad to know that she was on that bike.She was doing that and how painful it was.When she got off the bike, you could see it was painful.I just felt very emotional for her.You know what I mean?

And what she went through.She's an amazing woman.She is so amazing.People don't realise how amazing she is.Absolutely.

Jill.

Well done.Love you so much, Jill.

And we know that.She doesn't need to go on a bike ride to know that.It's just because she's a fantastic woman.She's a special one.She must be in bits now.Do you see the bits where she can't walk?

And I don't think she's done much training for it.So if you're cycling, I think you...I don't think you get away with the cycling, but the running...

Roll your arse after you've cycled.

Yeah, but the thing is, if you've not practised it, the aching of the rest...I think the running would be...If you're not used to training, I don't think she's done loads of training for it.So I think the running...

I just imagine it.But they're really a bit horrible.

Did she do 38 miles in one day?

Yeah.38 miles?It's not easy, that.That's amazing.

How much did she raise?Anyone know?Any idea?Over £100 ,000, wasn't it?It was way more than that.Did you say way more than that?

How much did Jill raise?

Can we find out?Let's find out with Jill.It was way more than £100 ,000.Let's have a coffee break.Are these the snacks that we're going to get on set?

Yeah, I'll bring them on later.How much?

Half a million quid.You raised half a million quid?Yes.Oh, my God, Gil.

Over half a million, brilliant.

£524 ,000.That is unbelievable.We should round it off to 525 ,000.Sky, better donate another £1 ,000.We will.I've got a few dollars here in my pocket.

Shopping?We haven't done much shopping, have we?

That was a nice start to the show, wasn't it?Who dodged us the other day?He didn't dodge you!

Do you know what Rayleigh's like?You're a decent guy, don't get me wrong.

He's a striker.Yeah, that's the word.I'm not a striker!He's basically, right?so...Righty's gone to these vintage shops.

We've asked to go to the vintage shops with him.Well, I'll tell you what the vintage shop was like.

After you came back!I could have judged it myself.Or you wouldn't have liked it, you know what I mean?

I would have liked a little trip to the vintage shops.I had to do that, but, like, you two went when you knew I was on.I was on the TV.Why did you go then and you know I wanted to come with you?You just blew me out.

That was after you went to the vintage shop.

It's paying back.So can we just get back to normal now?Are we going somewhere this afternoon?

Are we going to do that thing?I'm easy, you know what I mean?Are we going to do that thing?What thing?What's my middle name?Low Maintenance.

I'll do anything.

Roy Low Maintenance.I have low maintenance.

Anyone who walks with me will tell you that.

Roy LM.I am.I'm not having that.I'm not sneaky.It's just I had to do something with the girls.

Roy was texting you and he wasn't getting replies back.I felt a bit sorry for him, to be fair.

I was like, where is he?I'll see you for an hour.Do you know what?We need that distance as well.We can't all be on top of each other.

Look how long we are.Look how long we're going to be together.I think we've seen each other all the time, though.I'm disappointed I didn't get to come shopping with you, because you've got some really cool pants and I really like what you...You know what I mean?And I didn't have no input.

I had my personal shopper with me.Who was it?Gary.What was he doing all day?Let me see how long they are.I was with my mum and dad.

I actually said to him once, I said, does my bum look big indeed?

You need a small head.He's got these pants on, right, he comes out, and you can imagine, I like my pants a bit longer, don't I?Yes, too long, Gary.pulling his pants up and I'm saying, are they not a bit short, mate?You sound a bit dodgy, that, yeah.Are they not a bit short, mate?

He went, no, no, no, they're sat on his shoe.I went, no, no, but he just needs a little bit more.

Gary, while we're talking about it, your pants are too long.You keep saying that...tight lately, isn't I?Gary tight pants, the other day when you were walking back.You were like Ross and Fringe, remember, with all them loads of pants?They're too long.

I'm not even talking about where you can see your socks, but you just need a little bit more.

If I was walking around and, like, my pants were flying up in the air and they were, like, this far, an inch off my strangers, I'd be like, oh, I feel...

When we was younger, people used to say, you're sweating the flood.But, Gareth, they're too...You had some pants on the other day.It's a nice half.Pants were far too long, especially the linen.Ian, that's why I wanted to come shopping with you, so that you could help me, but you didn't invite me.

Well, we've got plenty of time.Some really cool shops.Yeah.I want to go to some more vintage shops.That one went bad.

I'm not a lover of shopping, but I did like that shop where you could just breathe and people let you alone.But again, see, with that vintage shop, they didn't let you breathe.

It was in your face right from the start.They were swearing.And, like, the guy was so rude.I told you, when I picked up that...I was just walking around, I picked up the phone, I said, anyway, hey, buddy, that's far too small for you, you know, put that back.And you looked at it, it was like...

I didn't say anything, and then...Was it John Pesky in there?

But then what happened was, a guy came in with a Liverpool shirt on.Yeah, but you needed Roy to break the ice with him, that's why you couldn't break the ice with him.

But then all of a sudden, he's starting to go on, because a guy wanted to take a picture with me, then another lady came in, her dad's an arsehole person, and then all of a sudden, all the guys in there, the shop assistants were like, hey, hey, buddy, what are you doing?What do you do?What do you do?And I was like, fuck off, and I just left.We just left, but you wouldn't have liked it.You wouldn't have liked that shop.

so you're not going back.I'm not going back to that shop.No, we'll find another one.There'll be better ones than that.

Right, so this is the 1990 World Cup team, right?We picked the starting XI last week, didn't we, for the England team.How many of that 1990 team that are on Ian's jacket get into this current team?I've just made it up as we go on, cos I need a pen.

There's no rush on here.

We'll take our time.

Sorry, mate.I can't get to see it myself.Look, I can see it in that camera.I think Shilton gets in goal, doesn't he?

Wow, that's...Let's just go.So we've got...Take your time.Have you got a big piece of paper?We're going to pick the team.

Goalkeeper, we've got Peter Shilton or Jordan Pickford.

Shilton's got to go, I think.Pickford's on well for England, hasn't he, but...

Yeah, but for England, generally, it's just who would be in goal.Who would you pick?Peter Shilton or Jordan Pickford in goal?You know what?Did you play with Shilton?

Yeah, I played...

Was he that good in training?Was he that brilliant?Was this a back three, by the way, though?

Did they play a back three?When I got in there, he was in there.My first squad, he was in there, and a couple of squads, he was in there, but then it was Chris Woods.Do you know something?Jordan Pickford...

I give you the ball and the goalkeeper.I think Shilton's probably the...I think he's the highest cap maker of all time.That's the thing, he's got 125 caps, but...

Yeah, but Pickford's gonna go past that, isn't he?How many caps does Jordan have?

Jordan's got 84 caps.

How many has Peter Shilton got?125.125?He got past that.He got past that and has got injured.Pickford?

Do you want to go Pickford?I think he's been in more violence.It's weird, isn't it?

Has he been in more violence?I know, it's weird.

Well, forget Caps for a second.Who's a better goalkeeper?You played with him, so you can make this decision.You've seen enough of them.

Yeah, but I haven't played with Shilton Pickford, I haven't.

No, but you've seen him, but I think...Have you lost a few bats in training?You know, when you were going through against Shilton...

Was he a great keeper?Was he a good bloke?Did you get on with him?What's Pickford like?

Seaman.

Better than Seaman, no?

Seaman better than Shilton?

for me, I'd go semen.But I buy it.Yeah, of course.

Seaman would have been for me.

Shilton, I'll pick for this, don't you?Go on.Yeah.Pickford.Pickford's in goal.Ooh, you get in trouble for that one!

Let him come, let him come, let him come!OK, left -back, Nico O 'Reilly or Stuart Pearce?Don't even hesitate.

Stuart Pearce.That's only cos Nico's not got himself...

Exactly, of course, there's time for it, obviously.I need you to pull your jacket up, cos I think we play five at the back of that team, that's the only problem.We've got Paul Parker right -back, so I'm just gonna go...Was he not wing -back then, passed?Parkes is such a good defender You got right, there's Walker, yeah I did, three centre -halves That's the problem we've got here, but we'll have to fudge it Okay, right back, you've got Rhys James or Paul Parker Well you play with Paul, but if we're talking about how good the player is I think Rhys James is a better player Rhys James is a better football player than Parkes is one, unbelievable I think I'll go Rhys James Three sides, innit?James?

I like Parkes as well, but James on his date Do I have to actually stay like this, or can I just put my...It's a good exercise It's true, you know what, that's the one I'm doing at the moment, I'm doing one of those as well in a minute Centre -halves.

Dez Walker's got to be in there, whatever happens.You've got Gaea and Konza, or you've got Dez Walker and Terry Butcher.

You're going Dez Walker and Terry Butcher, right?Definitely.I wouldn't hesitate with that.My arms are itching.

OK, midfield, you've got Gazza and David Platt, and you've got Declan Rice and Anderson.Whoa, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.I'm going Gazza, 100 per cent.Gazza's in, I'm not even asking you.

I'm sorry but Platty, you can't, Platty's one of the best midfield finishers.

It'll be Platt or Bellingham, we'll go for...I thought you said Elliott?No, in midfield, it's got to be Rice, hasn't it?It's got to be Rice.

Gazza and Rice.The two of you were always going to put Rice in there weren't you?

You're just a bit upset because he didn't choose Ireland still aren't you?

No he did choose England.Ireland.He played for Ireland, so he did choose them.But he changed his mind.But he did play for them.It doesn't sit well.

I don't think it's a bad decision.I don't think it's a bad decision for me. I love the Irish.

I love the Irish.OK, what I'm going to do here, when it's about the artistic licence, right, I'm going to imagine it was basically John Barnes and Chris Waddle on the wings, and it was David Platt in there, and then it was...Who's up front?Gary Lineker.Gary Lineker.So, basically, you've now got...

No, no.Go on.We're going to go Bellingham or Platt.Ooh, you know something.Bellingham or Platt?I'm going to go Bellingham.

I think I'm going to go.I played with David Platt as well.I like him a lot.I think Bellingham.Bellingham.I'll make this more interesting, actually.

We'll go Peter Beardsley or Bellingham.

No.No.

Peter Beardsley or Bellingham.

Peter Beardsley, innit?Bellingham.

Bellingham.Bellingham, yeah.Even though we have to give Peter...Jude is in.We obviously have to give Peter...

Platt had some amazing moments.He scored a goal in his...Yeah, yeah, the goals.Yeah, no, the goals, of course, in the World Cup.But the rest of his career, would you look back and go...He scored a lot of goals from midfield, though.

Yeah, but did it add to loads of goals at Villa, Arsenal?Juventus, Bari scored.Can you remember huge moments he had?Are they more with England?I think the Belgian was the one.Oh, that's his moment, yeah.

Saka or Waddle?Waddle.Waddle?I think Chris Waddle.

Yeah, he'd probably nick that.And he was on top of the Pops as well, didn't he?

What was it called?Diamond Lights?

Are we talking about, you know, in respects of...

What was that song he sang?Waddles In.Diamond Lights, yeah.Diamond Lights.Waddles In.Darling, I love you!

In the Glenoddle.We picked Marcus Rashford last week in our team.It could be Anthony Gordon, you can have either.John Barnes...

We picked Anthony Gordon, we did.

No, we picked you, Rashford.We changed our minds.

No, no, we changed our minds, didn't we?

And you're entitled to change.John Barnes or Rashford or Gordon.John Barnes.It's John Barnes.

Yeah, but then people would talk about John Barnescareer for England.Are we talking about just as the player, or what is that?As a player, just to be fair.

Where's John Barnes?John Barnes was the best player.In my childhood watching Liverpool, John Barnes was like, like, yeah.

Agreed.And maybe somebody's lad in a few years' time can...Yeah, that's what I'm saying.This is why it's a bit unfair on them.A little bit, but hey.

And then you've got Kane or Lineker up top.Oh, Jesus.Nah, it's Kane, isn't it?Go on, you let the striker choose.

Don't have silly chats now.Lineker's brilliant.It's gotta be Kane, hasn't it?

Yeah, but then you're talking about Harry...I would say Kane, but then obviously...

I said Kane, that's 2v1, so it doesn't matter what it is.

It's a striker there.

All right, so how's the...OK.No, no, no.Nice to know that.

No, but when you look at Gary...I think Gary, cos he came... the Premier League came after, you kind of like, it kind of negates everything before.He played for Barcelona.He scored hat -tricks against Spain, against Madrid, he's got golden boots in the World Cups, Gary Lineker.I know that Harry's done the same.And you've worked with him as well.

There's nothing to do with that.You obviously know him.I mean that in a nice way, you know, personally.Another thing is that I feel that against him and the same Ian Rush, these people, Mark Hughes...

Amazing.Me and Roy don't understand forwards to the same level as you do, so your vote counts triple.If you go Lika, we go Lika.

If England in the World Cup final, you have a choice of a strike.If he gets one chance, he's going to put it away.Who will it be?

I'll go with Ian.

Wow.Wow.Wow.

You did drink a lot last night.Wow.One thing there is no doubt about, Kane is a better football player than Gary Laker.Yeah, Gary would say that himself.He can drop in, he can pass.Gary would say that himself.

Yeah, but we shouldn't hold that against him.

No, no, I'm just saying.I mean, Harry is a finisher.I can't comment as much on Gary Laker, even though I watched him, but I can say I think Harry is the equivalent of Alan Shearer as a finisher.I think Harry is the equivalent of Alan Shearer.as a finisher.In terms of the way they hit the ball.

Clean.Yeah, clean.

Did you play against Lineker?No.I'm a defender point of view, so if you were playing against one, who would you not want to be up against?You wouldn't want to be up against Lineker.

I think so, with his run and his movement.You see, Harry would go back in there, someone else...You would not want to be up against him.So you'd go with Gary Lineker or Harry Kane?

I'd go with Gary Lineker.That's a big call.Right, who's the captain of that team?So the team is...Here's the team.

It's not a bad team, is it?

Have we got the team?Is anybody concentrating on the...?Concentration!This is the team.Jordan Pickford in the goal, Rhys James, Walker, Butcher, Pearce...Butcher would be on the other side, wouldn't he?

Terry Butcher, Des Walker...Gazza and Declan Rice in midfield, with Julian from...That's a beautiful midfield there.Chris Waddle and John Barnes on the wings, and Lineker up top.Butcher's left foot.So what we're saying there is effectively, who's the captain of that team?

It's Pearce.Stuart Pearce?Or Butcher?It should probably be Butcher.Oh, Pearce -y, man.It should be Pearce -y, though.

I think Stuart would give it to Terry Butcher.He would do.I tell you what, that midfield's good.

We didn't have Gaza in there, where Jude is Gaza off the floor.

Yeah.But just as what we were dealt with, you know, it's like a...Who's the holding midfield player in that team, by the way?Who was the holding midfield player in that bloody team?I'm not wearing this again.There's a player missing.

They've just got three at the back and then they play with Gazza, Beardsley and Platt.

Didn't they speak to Bobby Robson and say they wanted to change the formation?

So, captain, I go Butcher, you go Pearce, you go...

I'll go on, I'll go Pearce.And then, like you say, Pearce, because he's a gentleman, he'd give it to Butcher.And then Butcher would say, I can't give it to you.it off him.

That's the combined 2026 and 1990 World Cup teams.And there are one, two, three, four representatives from 2026, seven from 1990 that reached the semi -final.I think that was probably about right.Yeah.Do you know what I think about the current squad and the difference?I think when you look, people say, like, the Golden Generation team is better than this current team, right?

I agree.On names, on players that played in Premier League, I agree.But do you know what this squad has?There isn't a big drop between the first XI and the second XI.I think there were, at times, players that, if they weren't playing...

They just checked out?Yeah, I think they've got a really...You're saying there's not a big drop with this group?No, I think there's...Well, if you look at it...Let's say Gordon or Rashford, Sakharov or Magwicky.

If Kane comes out?Kane's a problem.That's the one.

But you've got Jude or Morgan Rodgers.Kane and Rice are the two that you can't replace.They're the two that are a problem.But I think the rest of them, you could take one out, put another in, and I don't think you'd lose a massive amount.

Goalkeeper who comes in?

No, the goalkeepers.Yeah, there is probably a bit of a drop with the goalkeeper.

Just because of lack of real experience, you know what I mean?Because Pickford plays all the games.Yeah, he does.This episode of Stick to Football is brought to you by Skybet.

Right, is there anything you want to say about the...Cos I've got it written on this thing here, New York Knicks.Do you want to touch that stuff or not?It was just...They won, didn't they?They'd done it in five, didn't they?

They'd done it in five.

Yeah, but again, it's...

Did you watch any of it?You know what, I saw the highlights of it and...Obviously you can hear the noise outside the window, it's amazing.They won.That's 53 years though.

I wasn't happy they won because they beat us.

Cairns celebrated more New York Knicks winning the actual trophy than did Liverpool winning the league.Honestly, all of us.Done it in five, eh?Done it in five.Brilliant.You're having a good time over here, Kieran, aren't you?

The Knicks, though, gal, they've been dragged.Look, obviously, three years or something, they haven't won it before.Can you imagine what they've been through?Are they like the Arsenal of basketball?Are they like the Arsenal of basketball over here?What did someone say last night?

You said it last night, it was the equivalent of someone like Everton or it's Everton winning the league or Southampton or something like that winning the league You know what I mean?

So it's a massive, massive thing Why would the New York team not win the league that much?

They should be well funded shouldn't they?It's not about well funded, remember the draft That's what's good about it, is that everybody gets their chance at some stage because the best players can go to something that's worse Yeah but they haven't won it for so long, why didn't they do better in the draft?They haven't done well in that situation, but now...Recruitment, haven't they?Yeah, they've done it finally.The parade is..

.Is it Thursday?Yeah, Thursday.

That'd be wild, do you reckon?

Yeah.

It's wild enough after Saturday, wasn't it?

We should go down, shouldn't we?Yeah, we should go in the parade, and we'll be able to actually just hang in there.

There's a bit on here, so there's a quiz question coming, and then we'll get into a bit of football chat, but before that, Kieran's going to explain what we've got on the table.and that White's Food linked to the World Cup.

Oh, right, OK.This is apple crumble, this one.Oh, yeah, I want to eat one of them.So you want to eat one of them, yeah.Yeah, yeah.So this is apple crumble.

What's the dairy in that one?

Well, I've actually got the ingredients for each thing here.Oh, I can't eat that.Kieran, where did you...?Kieran, where did the...?Go on, Kieran.So, do your bit.

So, through the World Cup, Nabisco are going to be supplying us with snacks from different countries.So, obviously, today is Mexico -themed and England -themed.

Crumbly bit is not crumbly enough.It's beautiful.No, it's not.It feels like it's a lot nicer.

This is a cheese and chive.quiche.I'm not eating that.This is a full English breakfast cracker.Oh, yeah.This is a chicken taco down the bottom.

Try that.And this is a Tex -Mex hummus.I'm not in the mood, but I've just had a bit of breakfast.

You had breakfast, didn't you?Do you know what?I just had toast this morning.Nice.In a minute, maybe.I've just had some toast.

I just went for toast this morning, I kept it simple.I'm not eating this morning.The other day, I got a nice protein shake.I'll have that and last for a bit.How nice was that milkshake we had the other night?Oh, Roy.

You've got to tell people how tough it was.We went to a...Pensioners try to do it on that thing where you have to order it.

We had a lovely meal the other night and we walked back.We can't say the name of the place, can we?No, no, no.Yeah, you can.No, no, no.Shake Shack.

Shake Shack.About half ten the other night, we went for a milkshake.Trying to order the milkshake.You have to do it on screen.Honestly, me and Ryder...Well, I wasn't too bad.

Yes, you was.We were, like, dumb and dumb.Trying to order two milkshakes on a screen.They wanted our e -mail.Passport, all of our passports.How nice was it?

There was one point when we was actually going to be leashed.

The counter was just there, we could have bought it.

It's like, why do they do that?The counter's there, cos it's not like it's busy.You could just say to, excuse us, can we just have two milkshakes, please?You've got to stand there.And they're waiting for you there to make it.Just make it!

You know what I mean?

Everything's fast over here.We went to a...

Well, it wasn't fast, Gary.

It'd be faster if they just made it for us.We went to a tacos restaurant the other day.They don't even give you chairs cos they don't want you to get settled, they just want you to eat them and go.I'm telling you, we stood up, weren't we?So we had the milkshake, we were outside...

We just had a nice little sit down, didn't we?

But you were kind of saying we shouldn't be having this, you know, it was late at night.I couldn't stop myself.But I had the best sleep since I've been here, so I think everyone should try it.have a milkshake before they go to bed.I know it's probably not good for you.Was it a good sleep for you?

You know a baby, when you give them a bottle and you're like just stuffed.That was the best sleep I had.Can I be honest?

It was an amazing milkshake.It was an amazing.It's been the highlight of my six days in New York, that milkshake.In respect of food?

From Shake Shack, yeah.A half ten, eleven at night.That was beautiful.Beautiful.

And then we just sat there just watching people watch you go by.Beautiful.

Is there a Shake Shack in England?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.There is one, yeah.

Is it?Yeah, but you don't sit up...It was the whole...The ambience, you want to sit outside.I'm not...

It's the nicest one I've ever...I know it's...I've had a milkshake in my life.It's the best one I've ever had.

This episode of Stick To Football is brought to you by Skybet.We'll get to football, but we've got a little quiz question.No, it's better we don't talk about football.Yes, true.You'll like this one, Roy.Go on.

Before we get started, let's kick things off with a quick question.Can you name, in chronological order, every country that has won the World Cup and the first year that they won it?Wow.Where's the other answers, by the way, on here?

You can play as well, Gary, and then we'll give you the answer.

What do you mean, I can play as well?I've got the answers here.All right, you won it, but the...Gary, it is...Uruguay 58?

From when they first won it, it's like 1930 was the first one.OK, sorry.So who won it first time?Uruguay 930.Yeah.Yes, you're right.

Right.Who won 1934?Brazil next.No.Well, Brazil have won it, you can give us Brazil.When did Brazil first win it?

62.No. 58.58.58, Sweden.Yeah, but we know who's won it.

I'll be just trying the names out then.

But the first year they won it.So there are two countries that won it before Brazil.So in between Uruguay and Brazil in 30 and 58, obviously the war was for... eight years, there wasn't any in that period.So who won it in between Uruguay and West Germany?West Germany.Right, there's West Germany.

OK, they won it in 54.And then, so you're missing 1934.

That's a tough one.I don't think it is. 1934.Italy.

Yeah.So you've got Uruguay 30, Italy 34, West Germany's 54, Brazil 58.And now we're on to who's next.62?Yeah, so who won that?Who's next?

England.England.66.70, Brazil.74.Germany.

Argentina.Argentina is first up, 78.We're getting there.OK. 82.Italy.

86.Argentina.Argentina.1990.Germany.Germany again.

94.Brazil.98.

France.OK, there's a seventh team.2002.Germany?

No.

No.No.In Japan and Korea?Italy.

No, no, no.No.No, it wasn't.

Not Germany.

Why?How come it's gone?Oh, it's gone.

It's gone.Right, help me, man. I got the last few.No.No, but it's not a new country.It's the same.Yes.

Germany?No.Italy?No.Brazil, sorry.

Brazil, yes.Remember?Ronaldo with the fucking hair, wasn't it?Jesus.

Yeah.With the tuft on his head.2006?Italy.Was it Italy?It was 2006, wasn't it?

Yeah.I remember Carnaval.Yeah, yeah.So 2010?Spain.There's the eighth team.

Uruguay, Italy, Germany, Brazil, England, Argentina.France, Spain.You know, in England, we say, like, England, oh, we should have won it more.We actually won of only eight teams that have ever won it.That itself is pretty good.

You know what, I heard someone talking about the World Cup.It's not easy to win.Holland have never won it.

It's mad, innit?

Holland with their teams.Can you imagine if Holland won it in 74 or 78, what football would have been like?The impression, what would have happened with football if Cruyff's Holland would have...

What's the biggest team never to have won it?Is it Holland?Yeah.Are they the team, the football nation?

There was a time where he was thinking it was Spain, but obviously they've kicked on, but it's got to be Holland.

Portugal or Holland?Portugal with all their players.

I'd say Holland because of Cruyff.He's the name that should be amongst those names of the great players that win the World Cup, because he was great.So I'd say Holland.

I think Portugal could do it this time round, no?

I think they're short.They're going to be short.How do they handle Ronaldo?How does he handle him?Play him every game?Has he got an agreement with him where he has to rest?

How does that work, that dynamic?

How is it for Martinez?I know.

He must be a nervous wreck.He came on the show earlier in the year and he was saying that he's a massive asset, which obviously he is, but how does he use him?Well, it doesn't make no difference.Dynamic.

It depends.If, just for example, they win their first couple of games, he'd obviously...If he starts them, then he'd rest them if they're already through.

But what do you think, if they're doing well, Roy, if he wants to play in that way, you bring Ronaldo on for the last 20 minutes...Remember, like, the Euros, when he was injured and he was on the side, it seemed like they'd won it without him.He's somebody that, with the team that they've got and the players, They could do it and then he could come on and finish it off.But is he that person that would be able to...I don't think so.He's not that person?

I don't think so.Don't think he'd be able to do it.happy, no.

You know what...

Put it this way, when you...Even the bit when he was at United, if you're used to being the main man for years, and then all of a sudden people say, you're gonna be...It's hard to change your mindset when you're the top guy, even at, what, 40 years of age?

Yeah.

Maybe, you never know.Was he 41, though, innit?

Yeah.Yeah.So what have we made of the tournament so far?What do we think so far?

Again, once it's started, I don't think there's a game that I'll look at and think...What have we liked so far?

What have we liked about this tournament so far in terms of the football or what we've seen?I like the US.

I thought the US was good.The one thing I look for...Yeah, that's the word you get right.The one thing I look for in any team now, and I went to the Morocco -Brazil game, I look for teams with energy.And that USA team.And Potts was quite confident when he was on the podcast saying, yeah, I think we're going to make progress.

And I think, yeah, energy alone, that's a good start.And if you need quality or whatever, good decision -making.But I was disappointed with Brazil the other night.I know sometimes it takes a team a couple of games to get up and running.And we might be the same with England when they play Croatia.But Brazil...

They don't look...Do you know what I was saying, Roy?

Morocco tore them to shreds in the first 20 minutes.

Yeah, and they're still Brazil.They still have a couple of chances going forward.They still have one or two star players, but in midfield...

It's that mystique of it's gone from them.It's just like...

No mobility in midfield, and I mean none whatsoever.

And Casemiro, instantly you're thinking, from Morocco, you're thinking, I'm quite happy with that.

Do you think they've been...Because they're all playing in Europe, or most of them are playing in Europe, do you think there has been an element of they that we have... contaminated their flair and their skill.

That's what I was saying, when we were younger, you only saw Brazil when they got to the World Cup, you know they had players.Then all of a sudden, you get these players, like correct, they come out of nowhere, these unbelievable, riveting, you see them.But now, we've got players from Brazil who play for Brentford and play for Newcastle, you know, and stuff like that.not digging it out, I'm just saying the mystique of what Brazil used to be is gone.So even when I saw that team sheet come out of Brazil, I was thinking, if I'm Morocco, I quite fancy that team.I know Vinnie Junior scored his goal because he's amazing.

I'm not afraid of them.They don't have that no more.

Well, the best players...Do you know, when I saw their team, the bit that I thought, ooh, Gabriel and Marquinhos and Alisson in there, I thought, actually...Yeah, of course.The players, I would think, are world -class.Yeah, the goalkeeper?No, but I think, look, I'm not saying he's now, but for the last four, five, six years...

See, the goal, the goal, Morocco got it, it was just one pass through the middle and he's...

He was in no man's land.And I know it's the first game, it's Argentina last week, not writing teams off, but...And do you know what, I was watching the game and they don't look a happy bunch.

No.Why do you say that Brazil didn't look a happy bunch?Because you're at the game, you can see...

It's just their body language, when people weren't making the right pass, there was an element of...And in the group it was Angelotti who came in towards the end almost to bring them together.In the qualifying I think they've lost six or eight games in qualifying.They finished fifth in the campaign to qualify.So clearly there is issues there.Whatever about their technical ability, lack of mobility in midfield.

I don't know, I was just looking.I just got that feeling that...We talk about Brazil.We always remember years ago videos of Brazil and other teams, and I was off to Kofsoften, but they just looked a bit stiff, a bit...Look.

Do you know what I thought of them?I like the word you used there, contaminated.Have we contaminated?No, if you think about Brazil, it's flair, it's like samba, it's just that sort of, that relaxed feeling of just, like, everything being a bit more like...Whereas, actually, you watch them, they're quite acting methodical.But I looked at them, I thought, Was it 94 where they played with Dunga and with...

Was it Mauro Silva?Who played with Dunga in midfield in 94?Can we find out who played for Brazil in 94?I thought if you sit Casemiro there with...Guimarães and you've got two good centre -backs and a good goalkeeper, do you just have that box there that think, OK, you've got Cunha and Thiago and then you've got Vinícius on one side, Rafinha on the other.Right, I've got four there, three.

Cunha, Rafinha and Vinicius, with Thiago up top.I thought, you know something, they could...Could, could...Like, the next couple of games, they'd be favourites, obviously.Carlo Roy, when he won the Champions League with Madrid, and then, look, he had unbelievable players, by the way, they did play a deep 4 -4 -2 and counter -attacked him big time.

Oh, they certainly had the potential then to get some momentum into the group, and they're emotional players.But when you've got all these players and Neymars back into it, I was just looking, again, when they were even having drinks break.As if they're proper individuals, particularly the attacking players.Even when someone was making a run, they weren't even communicating with each other.How was it with him up front, Igor Thiago?

Were they playing off him?

It was a hard battle for him.It was a tough evening for him.I think he had a good chance for the header.As poor as they were, when it did get in the box, you did think, they're still a threat, of course.And as the tournament goes on, momentum, confidence, and obviously they've got great support behind them.But I wasn't sitting there watching them going, wow, it'll take a lot to stop these.

Do you think Morocco can go far?Yeah, I think so.They've got, again, energy, mobility.The only disappointment I thought was the second half.I know it's the first game of the group.They both kind of shook hands early and go, we'll both take the draw here.

Because they'll know, they're looking at it on paper, they've got easier games coming up.We'll both go through.But yeah, Morocco were decent.Yeah, they were decent.Definitely good movement.

And they'll definitely cause teams problems, of course.In 94, it was Mauro Silva and Dungar, who you don't think has run.So they just sat there, with obviously two centre -backs behind them, and you just make you think, could he just try and...

He could end up with something like that.Yeah, like always like Makinios.

He was up front then.

Exactly, get him out of jail.Talking about Bebeto.And Mario.Exactly, of course.Me and you could stand in that midfield with them two up front.When I say lack of mobility, I know you can still sit there and have an experienced player in there like I used to play, but when I was looking at the three midfielders, the game was getting a bit stretched.

I think France win this tournament just straightened me. I don't see anything else.I honestly think...Just what I've seen so far, the way the tournament's shaping up, their front players with their defence, and I just honestly think France is at least...

I like that Spain can play a different way.Spain don't need to just...It used to be with Spain, yeah, they're just going to try and play off the part.Now they can play off and then, bam, go long out.It's a different energy now.

Any team that wins it, it's not about one way of playing in this tournament.You've got to be able to keep it, you've got to be good on the counter -attack, good off the bench.And do you know what I have a feeling?They've not even played yet.Argentina.Yeah.

Look at their squad, man.They'll be tough.

They'll probably look at Argentina up to this point and think, I'm not really worried about any of you.

No, there's no -one stood out yet, has there?

I mean, I think, obviously, Germany, what they've done to Carrizal, but with Germany...We're not seeing England yet, we're not seeing Spain yet, we're not seeing France or Argentina.Yeah, but what I'd like to see, when you look at Switzerland, when Switzerland played against...Who's Switzerland against, Kez?Qatar.Qatar, right.

He should have wiped the floor with them.This is what I'm saying with Germany.Germany, in the end, the quality, wipe the floor with them.

But we made the point, I know we were kind of discussing the other day, this is to worry when these extra teams get in.And it's great, I know you've made the point, it's obviously huge for these countries, of course, but then you can't lose six, seven goals in an international match.

Right, we're doing that game, right?Seven, right?Yeah, but in the end, in the end, they broke them.Leading up to that leading up to that when they scored because again what they showed with Germany, especially the defenseyou can get at them.And they showed Curacao that they've got the quality to be able to break them and get them, but they couldn't sustain it.

So from their point of view, that's what they've got to build on.They've got to build on...But that's my whole point, don't write it.They're going to get hammered, but then you're going to play against a Germany.Like we say in FA Cup games, it's my professionalism.We're going to play if we play how we play.

They're going to run out of steam.You're going to play past them.Bam.Yes, you're going to run away with it.But there was a time, up until the hydration break, Germany scored before half -time, then after half -time.They'd done everything what you meant to do to a team like that.

And then, naturally, they're going to run away with it.But I thought, up to that point, they carried themselves well.It's unlucky.

But sevens are like...

Yeah, but then you look at the...Yeah, but I remember when I was younger, like, the 1974 World Cup, I remember watching that, cos I was watching it for Brazil and it wasn't a great Brazil side.And I remember, at the time, it was like Yugoslavia beat someone else 9 -0.But that's what's gonna happen.And, like, Haiti are back, they're back again, they're trying again, but you've got to keep progressing.Of course.

Of course.But it's still not...It's not nice, it's not nice.It's not nice, but, like, it's a learning curve.And it's up to Germany, it's up to Switzerland to do it so they can see, we've got a long way to go.

I don't think no team enjoys, I don't know about learning, you're in this big boy stuff and you're losing seven goals.And it could have been ten.Germany were still going out towards the end.I can't be good for a player either, a professional player going, we lost ten goals in a match, wow.Obviously seven, but it could have been more.That's what's going to happen.

I know it is, but it's not good.It's collateral damage.

This episode of Stick to Football is brought to you by Skybet.Roy, you went to the Brazil -Morocco game, what did you think of the drinks break?Have you seen what Virgil van Dijk said about it last night after the game?Really strong comments, he said, I think they need to look at it.on a game -by -game basis, if it was hot and it was 33, make sure drinks break, but if not, it's a stealth advertising break isn't it?

It is, we're in America right, so it's like it's a timeout.

Look how long they've wanted that to get right.They've always wanted the in -game time.

They've covered it by saying hydration.They've got tactics boards out now, coaching.But even that, we talk about why we love football.Obviously people out there have different arguments for different sports.We love football because of the pace of the game.You don't want to go to the toilet, you might miss something.

All the sports you go, listen we can go out and stop up, we might miss much.But these breaks.And the rules are meant to speed the game up.What's this doing is stopping the flow of the game.The momentum, teams are losing momentum, sometimes you're gaining.And you kind of do that anyway when goalkeepers are going down.

And the problem is, the other night, the weather was lovely.It was like lovely, cool even, and particularly the second half.And the game you think there's a bit of momentum here You smell something in the air and something just comes on the back of a player being injured So you've waited two or three minutes for a player to get treatment The game kicks off for a minute and you go, oh no we have a hydration break It stops there Loads of little petty fouls but this drink breaks Before the competition I was saying, do you know what we have to look after players They're not robots, I get all that But now you're talking And I think there was something on the TV the other night where they actually said I think they call it a timeout They're classed it as a timeout.

The game now is like four quarters.I think FIFA are going to have to act quite quickly now.If it's a drinks break, I think there's going to have to be an element of the coaches have got to stay on the bench.You can't come and put tactics boards up.There was one game where I think they actually had a scream where they showed a set piece.

Well, that's, I think, Ancelotti.

And then there was a tactics board up.I mean, we're talking about literally two, three minutes, effectively, a mini -half time.We're talking four quarters.I think I'm surprised that it's not been stamped on pretty quickly because look, I think it is a stealth advertising break.

There's nothing stealth about it, it's blatant.

Put yourself in the player's shoes, right, if it is a cool evening.And you're obviously a footballer, you're getting into rhythm.

And then after whatever, you have to go and have a drink for two or three, you're like...What a drink?A stadium stop in the game, I'm just getting the swingers, I've had a couple of good touches.

It's just, obviously, you can do that all at halftime, you know, I'll get my breeder, I'll get myself together.But this idea, again, it's like a quarter, it's like a time out in America, we're on about basketball, whatever it might be, American football.I watch these, I love them sports, and that works for them sports.

But football, it's...

They've always wanted to do that.It's frustration.

They've always wanted to do that because they can't understand how you're waiting 45 minutes before you stop.You're just advertising revenue.That's what they're saying.

But the other night, on top of all that, there's obviously a load of fouls.There seems to be stop, start on top of all this stuff.So you're getting frustrated.But then I saw the referee at the end going, so there was again a goalkeeper went down and he's like, I've stopped the watch.I've done work.And I'm going, stop?

Who's stopping the watch?You're stopping the flow of the game.We know you let it on at the end, but even that stop, start, it's really frustrating.Particularly when the conditions are, I think, fine for the players.

What was the game the other day where it was absolutely boiling?There was a game where it was boiling and you think, fair enough.Even just to stop, get in the shade and just have a drink, fair enough.

But I think some of the stops are just ridiculous.You two done the Netherlands -Japan game.People were talking about Japan, dark horses.I saw some highlights.What was Japan like?

I was disappointed.I watched them against England in March.and saw them really counterattack quickly and spry.Do you know what they kept doing?Against England, they got into the shape and they were compact, so compact, but they sprung out to try and sort of win it back.They just went literally hogging it.

the pitch.And the Dutch, to be fair, controlled the game, didn't they?I mean, the Dutch must be absolutely, this morning, kicking themselves.

They didn't look like what I saw.They were just moving around.There was a lot of movement.

But you know what we have to remember is, it's the first game for even Japan.

We think they're fit, they're disciplined.

Maybe take them a game or two to go.

And it was interesting, before the game, before he even saw them, obviously he's worked over there for, what?years in the J League, he said just the mentality, the belief, he said that's what lets them down and he talked about this 100 year plan and apparently they stick to this 100 year plan to win the World Cup and they're only 33 or 34 years through it or something or 35 years through it so they're only a third of the way through it and he said they just stick to a plan, they're methodical, they've got no belief and I thought when I watched them against England they looked full of belief.And then you watched them yesterday.I mean, you're right, it's their first game, but they did look like they lacked that bit of belief.

They waited, they curled up in the ball.You say that, they came back into the game.They did.The mindset, it was the Dutch who lacked belief.The Dutch were 2 -1 up in control of it.They're the ones who lacked belief.

They went to a back five instead of saying, we're the Dutch, we're on top, we're controlling the game in possession and out of possession, there was no danger.And then a team full of giants to give up a goal from a corner, from a header.

Wow.

We're going to carry on and talk about football for a little bit.

We're going to talk about Scotland.I knew the Dutch would be annoyed.

The Dutch will be so...They should be.They should be.

But I still like what I saw with the Dutch.Even though they're a bit disappointing to draw, you're thinking, do you know how nice...

Do you know what I thought about the Dutch?I've been there in England.team hotel the morning after a first game draw, where the world feels like it's collapsing, you know, the papers have just come on you a little bit, you've been in a good position and you're like, ugh.Yeah, it can't be.And it's like, you just, you feel like, oh, you feel sick after a game.I'm nervous.

And you feel like, you feel like, I mean, obviously Argentina lost in the last tournament that went on and won it, you feel like you're chasing things day one.

But this is what I'm saying, even...No, but you don't, no, I think not with the third, with you have so many things going through now, but I think thatand that panic is gone now.

You know what's really thinking for me as an England supporter?I want to see our game now because I'm nervous now.

This has been a long wait for England.

It's really f***ing long, man.It's like 10 days before they play.

Jesus Christ.

Yeah, that is long.I do think it is a benefit, not to be waiting till the end, just to watch the other teams and even look at the time -outs, or the time -outs, the breaks, and go, you can suss things out a little bit when you're watching games.

What about Scotland?I'm delighted for them, of course you're delighted for them, because everybody's talking about the way the games have fallen for them, and it's brilliant for them, for them to beat them, because they had to beat them, and again, it wasn't easy.It wasn't easy.Scotland, in the end, they kind of like...I think they put another defensive midfielder on and they kind of like just took the blows a bit instead of going and finishing them off.Which is fine, because people are talking about how Scotland might need to score more goals because of the third place and that.

But the main thing is that they won.They beat them.You know what I mean?

That's the main thing.The hard part for teams like Scotland, we play for, when you've games where you're almost expected to win, they're the biggest challenges for Scotland.

The build -up to Scotland for the last few months, must -win game.

You have to win it.And they won the game.

Yeah.

It wasn't pretty.But I think Scotland, and again I mentioned I watched Morocco and Brazil, I think Scotland get a result.I think this idea of going...Against two, right?Brazil.No, against two of them.

When I say results, they could get a result against them too.I don't think Scotland should be in the mindset going, we've got our three points now, could we get through with three points?No, no, no.I think you can get results against Morocco and Brazil, really do.Even if it's a draw.Obviously one draw will get them through.

But don't be frightened of these two teams, I'm telling you.They're good, of course they're good, but they've got the hardest pressure I think on Scotland was this first game.And they've done that bit, again not pretty, but it pressures off them a little bit because the three points in might be enough, but still believe you can go and get them.

I think when you've got someone like Vinnie Jr. you're always going to have a problem with Scotland.But there's no way that Scotland should be going into the Brazil game...Fearful.Just mentioned them earlier, they've lost there.

Don't play the jersey, play the players you're in front of.

I think they'll at least get a point off of Brazil, I think.I think Morocco might be a tougher one.

You're not talking about trying to win it, but Scotland's World Cup, their biggest challenge is getting out of the group.I think they're more than capable of doing it.They've got that.Whatever they've done over the last couple of years, the manager's done a great job.And again, we can sit and criticise Scotland in terms of watching them, are they good on the eye?Maybe, not always.

But they've got a bit of fight, they know how to grind out results.That Ganondogu...Yeah, there's a couple of players that can kind of make an impact.If you were in that camp with Scotland, don't be bogged down by going, will three points be enough?No.Say, no, no, we can get something.

Don't think we have to hang in there, we can have a big impact.I'll take that now for England.

I'll take three points now.And it's Croatia?Of course you would.Of course you would.Just take it.Would you take a draw now before the game against Croatia?

Yeah, I probably would.Depends on how the draws come about though.A draw won't be received well.Surely it depends on how you play.

We wouldn't be jumping up and down on a draw.It's the nature of the draw that will be important, how they play.

But a draw won't be received well by the fans.So before England play now, would you be quite content if England qualified second or third?Are you thinking...No, we need more than that.

It has to be first.I think the expectation this group have set over the last four or five tournaments, they have to win the group.You think we have to win the group?Ian, Ian, Ian.What's our rank in the world now?What are we in the world now?

Fourth.Fourth in the world.I'm not saying...Croatia, by the way, are a fantastic team.They've beat us over the last seven or eight, nine years in big games.And you can't disrespect Croatia.

That would be a massive error.However...will get criticised if they don't win the group.

That's the least of their worries.

So you think it's okay to finish second in the group?Yes.Oh, I do as well in some ways, but they'll get criticised if they finish second because it will have meant...They'll be ready for that.It meant they'll have either lost or drawn matches that they should have won.

And that's what happens.In the World Cup, you have to build resilience and it has to come from somewhere.No -one gets in the World Cup.Look at Argentina, won it last time.They lost against Saudi Arabia, then got themselves together, bam, kicked on.

There was a different edge to that already, like there's more teams you can...You can finish third and see if you can qualify, of course.You've room for more error.

I don't think so.No, I don't think so.

Do you know what I think about on Wednesday for England?There's quite a bit of experience in the squad, and yet the back four, Nico O 'Reilly, Gay, Konza...Reece are playing in their first World Cup matches, right?One of the most nervous I've ever been in my life was my first World Cup match.It's the World Cup.It is absolutely ginormous.

It's like a different level of thinking when you're just playing for your country.And I played in Euros by the way, so I played in Euro 96.So I played in the big tournament before.But you go to a World Cup as a back four that have never played in it, right?I'm just looking at that game on Wednesday I think it's so important that back four start with a good performance and I've said before about Anderson and Rice protecting that back four making sure they really you know don't expose them but just there's just something about how we start we can't afford a nervous start for that back four but they've got to get off the grid there are back four who are talented one -on -one you put them up against most I think they could defend one -on -one against most but as a unit That to me is where all my eyes are on Wednesday.Get that back four settled.

Can they get a clean sheet?Can they set off really sort of...Even nil -nil's not a bad draw for the back four.but if it's a 2 -2 and we've made mistakes at the back I would say so it's how we draw nil nil all right our forwards to be fair you're hoping that to be fair within the tournament we've got eight or nine players there that will do something but for the back four if they concede two and draw 2 -2 and the forwards have scored two but the back four have made two errors That would be a problem.So I think it's how we draw if we do draw.And I hope we win.

I think we'll win on Wednesday.But that's my point.I think it's an important game for that back four to start well.We played a game against, in 2000, righty, against Portugal in the first game.We were 2 -0 up after 20 minutes.And then we basically got, but they got back to 2 -2 by half time.

and I was playing right back, I think Tony Adams experienced this, by the way, this was our third tournament together, so I was experienced by then, even though I was only 25, I think it might have been Sol Campbell or Martin Keown, I'm not sure who's left back, it might have been brother, or it might have been Gray on the side, I'm not sure.I tell you what, we can see them two goals against Portugal, and with your confidence, I'm telling you, you can see two goals.So just how we play on Wednesdays in Portugal.For Konza, for Gay, for O 'Reilly, for James, That is a really important match in establishing a footing in the tournament for them, I think.Yeah, but...

Yeah, I agree with you later on in the tournament, but they will have setbacks, you know what I mean?Yeah, but not this early, you know what I mean?Just almost like...Yeah, I know what you mean.But there's also dealing with that fact, like you were saying, you all went to bed.

You have to also go, listen, hey, it happens.What you don't want in the first game is off the back of that first game the headlines to be, England's defence looks shaky.Right.

Yeah, but whatever happens, they're going to find some headline.No, no.They're going to find some headline.

If we draw a nil -nil right, it'll be England draw a blank.be the forwards Harry Kane misses or Rashford misses or Gordon misses or Osaka misses that's a better headline for the team on Friday morning or Thursday morning it's better England draw a blank than England's defence is shaky you don't want that headline for them four.The front lads I think will handle it and recover I'm not sure the back four will come out of it that comfortably.We've already had our first ITV7 football winner, and you could be next.Regular stick -to -football viewer Chris from Glasgow landed £25 ,000 in the opening round of the tournament, getting all six questions right and even nailing the tie -breaker.I heard it on stick -to -football, I was like, I'll check that out, and I've done it.

I can't even believe that just happened.

I'd never done it before, that was my first ever team, didn't you?

Now it's England's turn, and there's 50 ,000 jackpot up for grabs as they take on Croatia in their tournament opener.It's free to play and you can enter your predictions right now on the ITV7 app or website.Good luck.18 -plus TNCs apply.ITV7 England play this weekend's Croatia.What do we think the score is going to be?

We need first goal scorer and we need the score.He's going to jump in with Kane, aren't you?Are you thinking again for Kane for a score?Do you know what I think?I'm going to go 1 -1.

I'm going to go 1 -1.No, I'm going to go 2 -1.England?Yeah.I was thinking 1 -1 all day, and now I'm thinking Gordon's going to score first.Cut in there, that one, that one, and then that.

Roy, who are you scoring?Cairn.

Who are you going for, 2 -1?I'm going to go Bellingham.Penalty.I'm going to go Bellingham.

Bellingham score first.Cairn, penalty.1 -1.We're here joined by Ciaran, and he's going to challenge us with a quiz.On the board, there are seven answers that we have to guess, and Ciaran will reveal the correct answers.But there's a catch.

As a team of Roy and I, we only have three left.If we lose all three lives, we lose.Oh, gosh.Come the end of Sixer football, if we've won more than we've lost, £7 ,000 will be donated to a charity of your choice.Gill.Give it to Gill.

Perfect.Give it to Gill to get up to £530 ,000.You're right, he said he'd double it as well.However, if we lose, a forfeit will be revealed and viewers get your ideas in.Right, what's the question, Kieran?

The question is, most England appearances at a World Cup.Right.So we're all a team here?

Yeah.So I'm trying to think who's played a lot at the World Cup.Gareth O 'Neill played a lot at the World Cup, but let's just hold fire.Sol Campbell.He played in 98, 2002 and 2006.I'm definitely thinking Sol.

So how many do we have to name?Sorry.Seven.Seven, right, OK.And we have to get that...I'm pretty confident Sol Campbell is on there.

So can we go with Sol first as a thingy?We've got three lives, yeah.

Right, OK, so I'm confident with Sol.Let's look at Kieran's.Has he given anything?

I'm confident with Sol.I'm pretty confident with Sol.How many more cups did he play in, did you say?I think he played in three.You think, or he did?I think he played in three.

I think Sol's definitely up there.So, what about...No, but let's just...OK.Will you say yes to us once we've given answers?

Once you've given answers, yeah.

OK, we'll go Sol Campbell.

No.

You egg!You egged them.You killed us.I'm going to smash the fucking place.How is Sol Campbell not on there?

You know something?Your Sol went on the Sol...You just died on the Sol hill without even letting us sit down for two minutes.

Nev, how many World Cups did you play in?

I missed the World Cup though in 2002.I didn't ask you that.How many did you play in?Er, two.

So we've got to be careful.We've got to be careful.

Lads, just think of all the players who've got over 100 cats.I was just thinking, I think Becks is one.Because I think Becks played in 98.He played...If you get this next one wrong...He played 398 Becks, right?

He played in 2002 in Japan and South Africa.And he played in 2006.Pickford, maybe.Pickford played a semi -final and a quarter -final.So Pickford could have played, what?Pickford could have played 9, 8 and 9.

Or they just stawned.Are we on number 2 now, then, because we missed out on 9?

If you get this last one live, you can keep going.I think Becks is on there.I want to go...I've lost my confidence.I want to go Shilton.I've lost my confidence.

Can I go Shilton?Yeah, yeah, yeah.Shilton?

Yeah.

That's number 1.

I said it as well to be fair.You just discussed he's got 125 caps.Just quickly, how many games were in 1966?Cos they got to a final, so Bobby Charlton's probably played six in there, and then he's probably played in 70.Bobby Moore as well, probably.No, there wasn't many games in the...

Yeah, but in 70 as well, they got to, like...What did they get to in 70?70 we've got to this 66 and 62 66 70 so Bobby Laplane 62 Let's not go.

Let's not go.

There'll be some from 66 Yeah, yeah, I'm not sure How's all Campbell as well Campbell wrong then Beth how many did he get how many did it all get how many soul get in a World Cup but never look at this with like So Shilton's number one, and he's only got 17.I say only 17, it's a lot.It's a lot, like in World Cups.

It's a lot, of course, I get it.So 86 -90 is 86 -90, they got obviously to a quarter -final, and they got to a semi -final.

Yeah, wasn't Shilton then 82?

82, Shilton.Ashley Corn must be in it.He must have been close.

Has he got over 100 caps?Yeah, 106.

So just think quickly of, Ashley Corn must be in it.Ash's the only player.I think, in 2006 and...

So are we still on the same first...You need to keep giving me answers until you get it wrong three times.Oh, OK.

So there's six more to reveal here.Yeah, we can get number seven next, if you know what I mean.

It doesn't have to be...Yeah, it doesn't have to be in order.You're right, then, Bex must be in there.

I would have thought so, but I'm not sure we've got more than nine.

He must have, cos...One, two, three...Well, Ashley Cole must be in there.We've got to get Ashley Cole's name involved.Hang on.

Beck's...Yeah, Beck's is in there.Beck's is in there.Beck's was the one I was thinking in there.I think Beck's is about 12.11 or 12.

Yeah, Beckham.Locking in Beck's.David Beckham.Beck's is number 6.Well done, Roy.13.

11 or 12, I thought, yeah.Not far.I'll tell you what, these numbers are higher than I thought, by the way.So, David Beckham.Your Lampard Gerrard is going to come into this a little bit, I think.Maybe.

Ashley Cole, you're right.What about Rooney?That's a good point.2006, yes.2010, yes.2014, yes.

Yeah, Rooney.Rooney.Rooney.Rooney.

No.Do you know what, lads?They go out in the groups...

You know what, I just said the name.Gary's the one who's doing the definite stuff.Oh, shit.Shit.Gary's lost...We've only got one life left now.

Do you know something?I didn't say put him on there.I don't normally get so wound up during a quiz, but I'm fuming with this.I am absolutely fucking fuming.Do you know what I'm saying?Are you playing or what?

You've got to put Butcher in there, maybe, you know?If Shilton's in there, and he's played 17, Butcher, it must be that era, it must be that era, my era's fucked.Yeah, but you're on about getting to the latter stage of the tournament, obviously they did in... 90, 86 they got to the quarters against Argentina, 82..they were there, England.Because it was when Brian scored the first goal against France.So Butcher could definitely be...

I'm telling you, Terry Butcher could definitely be there.But again, has he got, like...I'm going big on Terry Butcher.

Oh, God, Gary, you've gone big on two people...Are you locking that in?

No, I can't get the third one wrong or else they'll batter me.They'll throw me in the river.I'll be off Brooklyn Bridge.Right, let's go through more teams.No, no, you're talking 80 to 86, 90.You've got 2006, 10, 14.

And then you've got 18, 22.

Yeah, but how long they went in the tournament, and who would have been, like, obviously, playing in all the games?

18, I've got it for you.Jordan Henderson.14, 18, 22.I'm not saying...He's been to three.

You remember the chance, obviously.

How many's Harry Kane?

Harry didn't play in 14, didn't come with us.He was there in 18 to the semi -final and he's there in the...

You're not giving us...I'm trying to suss out...

Harry...He's giving us...How many games did England play in Russia?How many games did England play in Russia?Right, three, four, five, six.And then how many did they play in France, in Qatar?

They played a quarter -final, so three, four, five, six.So he's played 11 Harry, I think.Do you think Harry's here?He'd have to be here.I can tell you this is 12.Oh, it's not Harry.

It's not Harry.

Thanks for that.

Unless Harry's 12.Just give us...He's not Harry, is he?No, he can't give us anything.He can't give us anything.

This feels like it's a lot harder than it should be, Gal, and you should be giving me more.You're not giving me nothing.

I'm giving you absolutely nothing.I can't believe I'm wrong with the ones I've said.

We're not going...I don't think we're going...By the way, can I just say something?What about someone like Kevin Keegan?Can I just say something, by the way?

We've got one right, and that's the only one that I've given you, but you've given us nothing here.Who got Peter Schilt?You got Peter Schilt at the moment.I did as well.

So the person who got number one, shall I just stop?Shall I leave?

You definitely sent Ashley Cole.You're ruling Ashley Cole out.I'm not ruling her out right now.

Ashley Cole could be in there.Just put Ashley Cole in.Ashley Cole, yeah, that's correct.Ashley Cole is number four.You know what, shall we get him out?

You're killing us.Get him out.

That's not bad, 14.Tight, tight.So that means there's someone else...Kyle Walker.

Kyle Walker.Kyle played in 14.Kyle Walker played in 14, I'm sure.Kyle Walker's surely got to be in there.Did Kyle play in 14?I'm not getting nothing off Kez.

I'm pretty sure...Oh, no.Who was right back?He was Glenn Johnson in 14.

Guys, can we simplify?Which players have got that 100 cap vibe?

Lampard, Gerrard, Bobby Charlton.There's definitely a Bobby Charlton in there.He can't be now.Unless Bobby played in 58.Did England play in 58?Were they at the tournament?

I don't think we qualified.

No, I don't think we did either.

They qualified in 58.Payal Walker.Would Peter see...?No.Let me see.Look, I'm trying to look at players.

I'm not getting nothing off him.Steven Gerrard, 2002, 2006, 2010.I think Stephen Gerrard.2014.Say it.He was with us in 2014, I'm sure he was.

Was he?Stephen Gerrard.

Stephen Gerrard.Stephen Gerrard's number seven.How many?12, of course.12, which is tied with Gerrard, Lineker, Maguire, Owen, Pickford, Stirling and Stones.

So Stones will move up.I said Stones.Right, I'm pulling this out of this now.That's a clue, that, cos you've got...That era, like that.That's Kane.

Kane's got off play more than these, eh?Yeah.Kane's got off play more than...No?

Kieran.

Kieran, don't do anything!Who's got a biscuit or something?Who's got something that I can eat?Brian Robson.No, Brian Robson's not up there.He got injured in World Cups.

He bit his shoulder earlier.Of course he did.

Look at me, look at me, fucking look at me.Two of them you've mentioned already in your discussion.All right, all right, don't give us any shit.

What about Stewart...What about Pearce?Ooh, that's interesting.What, Pearce?Yeah, Stewart Pearce.Stewart Pearce was in 98.

No, he wasn't, no, he wasn't.He was in 90.Stewart Pearce wasn't in 98.He didn't play in 98.

90.Graeme was so, wasn't he?Never qualified in 94.

No, he played left centre -back.Left centre -back.We played three at the back.Me.Tony.I think it was Sol.

Sol Campbell, isn't it?Yeah, I think it was Sol.Where was I with Butcher?Because at Butcher I was around 82, 86 and 90.What about Gazza?No, Gazza was only 86.

90.Gazza wasn't 82.It was 90.Gazza wasn't 98.Was he 94 when he got there?Of course he wasn't, no.

Michael Owen's there.Can we...?

It's unfair to say...We're not coming back to the 60s.Would it be somebody...?We've got no 60s.Who was a goalkeeper back then?Bobby Moore or something.

Who was a goalkeeper?Definitely not 60s.Alan Ball or something.

Trevor Brook in any of them?Kevin, you mentioned Keegan, we've got to throw names out there.

It could be a 66, 70, 74.So England qualify, yeah.No, 74 didn't qualify.Didn't qualify in 74.We didn't qualify in 74.All right, so from 66 and 70 is 0 -2.

So it's got to be half of that.

No, but if you think of a player I don't know who would have played in...

Sir Bobby and Bobby Moore.No, but even after that, so after even 70, you're saying England didn't qualify in... 74 or 78.All right.Or 78.

Oh, what a bad team they were.Yeah, we were terrible, but we should have.We had great players.They were 80 -80s.We didn't have great players, did we?

I think Frank might be.

There's definitely a player in there we'd be scratching our heads.

Frank, 2010.Frank, 2006.No, I think there's one back, Florida back.Frank could be...Was Frank around in 2002?Cos I didn't go to that tournament, I was injured.

But was Frank there, was that bit before Frank?Was Frank in 2002?I don't think Frank's played more than Steven.I don't think Frank's played more than Steven.I'm surprised Rooney's not on there, by the way.

These two are 14, just so you know.Oh!So why did we put all of them in the actually cold 14, then?This one's also 14.Because they're top seven, isn't it?We couldn't go down further.

Of course, of course.

Yeah.Get him some picante.

So I think it's someone in and around that era, isn't it?

You've mentioned them before already.You keep saying that?

At what point?Right, give me a thingy.Are we talking 82, 86, 90, or are we talking 2002, 6, 10?What about 93?Maybe not.

2, 6, 10.No.

Are we talking then 18 and 22?No. 14, 18, 22?

No.

So we're talking 82, 86, 90?

Yeah.

Right, OK.So Butcher's got to be in there, hasn't he?That team we had before, your team, that team there.So Pearce could be one, by the way.Was he in 82?He wasn't in 82.

Beardsley?Was he 82?Waddle?

82?Barnes?82?Barnes went to the...He was there, wasn't he?I think Butcher and Walker.

I'm telling you.Des Walker.

I don't think Des has got 80, 90 caps.I think Des is like 50.

It's got to be Butcher.Butcher has got to be there.Butcher always played for England.He was like Mr England.Terry Butcher's got to be there.What about someone like Phil Neal or something?

I'm going...No!It's Lineker, it's Butcher.Parker?No. 82 is Butcher.82 is Butcher.

I can't think...Give me that thing there.Butcher and Waddle.Waddle's a bit older, I think.Chris Waddle's a bit older.Roy, you know this.

You grew up...You know this.How old's Chris Waddle?It's just a few years.Is he your age?Yeah, he's just older than me, yeah.

So where were you in 82?

Where were you playing in 82?Where were you around?No, no, because you...Sunday morning.

I was playing...

But how old were you, though?How old were you in 82?I don't know, 18 or 19 or 20 or something like that.Is he two years older than you, three years older than you?

Something like that, yeah.Maybe two years.Butcher, I'm pretty...Honestly, I think Butcher, I'm...I'm absolutely...

Right, have a bit of this.No, I'm 89, I'm rubbish.That's what I'm saying, Gary.You need to chill and stop eating food and...You're eating foolishness now.I think Butcher.

We have to go with somebody.You want a look?Right, I'm just going to get up just in case I've got it wrong.Butcher...

You're locking it in?Butcher, yeah.I'm locking it in.Butcher's number two.Thank you.And that's the last one from this era.

Right.So that's another clue for you.

So, we're moving on to 18.We're moving on to 1822.May or not you...Are we going back?No, we can't.Oh, it's at 66, 70.

He doesn't want to say.Earlier.Earlier than that.Stanley Matthews, Tom Ford.type shit?

No.What?Earlier than that?No.You were on it first time.82, 86, 90?

No, earlier.

Earlier.66, 70?It's Bobby Moore and Bobby Charlton.I think Bobby Charlton's got...I think Bobby Charlton went to a World Cup when he was fucking 18 or something.Where did he play?

Was he in England in 58?

In Sweden?We didn't qualify.Are you sure?We didn't qualify in 58.

Right, how many games...

To win a World Cup...

But they played a lot less games then, didn't they?No, no, in 66, I think they played a group of four, then a group of three.They played two groups, didn't they, in 66?Did they not?They were like two little groups or something.I can't remember.

I was three.We'd have to go Bobby Charlton out of that.If it's that era...Bobby Charlton.Bobby Charlton, number three.We got it, Roy.

We did it, Roy.Sir Bobby.

Right, so who's that then?I mentioned that era.So who's that then, Gal?Five.So that person's on 14 as well.

So this is a...You've got to think Bobby Moore has mirrored Bobby Charlton, haven't you?

I mentioned Bobby Moore.He's got to be Bobby Moore.

You've got to think he's mirrored him.He's the captain, eh?

Never injured, probably.So if we get this one wrong, are we out?Yeah, we're done.

So this is all or nothing, innit?

What did we get wrong?We got Sol Campbell and...

Rooney.

You got Sol Campbell and you was the one who got Rooney as well, because I mentioned him, but you threw him in.

It's Bobby Moore.You're locking that in?

Wait.Oh, no, his tone.I'm trying to walk away from one of his voices.Wait, wait, wait.I think that his tone...

Do you want us to win?His tone says...I want Jill to get the money, don't I?His tone says it's Bobby Moore.

Can we Google it?No.No.

Can we...We should lock in Bobby Moore.Just go for it.Is this for 7 ,000 for Jill's charity?

No, at the end of the tournament it is, isn't it?How do we do that?You've got to win this more than you lose it, so this will get you one up.

OK.

That's good.

Bobby Moore.

It's important, this, though, isn't it?Bobby Moore.

Let's just have a think about who else played in that team, right?No, no, I've got it.Alan Ball.No.Gordon Banks.I was going to say, it must be...

No.

Gordon Banks.No, no.It's got to be Bobby Moore.Gordon Banks.I want to go Bobby Moore.

Oh, shit.Right, then you...No, no, I don't.Righty, I must be...I'm just thinking goalkeeper.Can I take the lead?

Well, Gordon Banks makes a save in 7 -7.What a great save.And he's always in the goal in 6 -6.Magnificent.Right, so Bobby always plays.Bobby Charlton always plays.

I think Gordon Banks always plays, do you?Yes, so does the captain.And maybe does Bobby Moore miss a game because he's got a...I don't know.Is it both of them?It can't be both of them, can it?

No.Could be both of them, could it, or not?

Can it be two or one?No, it's one.I mean, if you're saying Gordon Banks and you're saying Bobby Moore, you can have this.

Right, cheers, yeah.

Thank you.I'll take the blame, but I'm telling you, I think that you can't have this kind of line -up without our greatest captain.He must be in there.

Ian, you feeling it?I'm feeling something.I'm not protecting myself here.

Kez, I want to go with Bobby Moore.I'm sorry.Roy, you're backing.Roy?I wouldn't go as far as saying I'm backing, yeah, but...

OK, thanks for just leaving me out there.I can tell you, you should have backed Reighty cos it's Bobby Moore.

That was a nice one.

Jill, Jill!

It's not yet, it's just one point.He's exhausted.Well done, righty.Thanks.I was.Look at my driveways.

You came good, pa.It's gotta be Bobby.That was so good.

This episode of Stick To Football is brought to you by Skybet.Right, there's 21 questions, pick a number.Nine.Oh, here we go.Have you bought anything whilst you're out here?

That's a good one to start with.I have.I have as well, yeah.I have.

Yeah.Yeah.So we start...A couple of things.You said there was nothing in them vintage shops.No, no, no, when I was in Miami.

Oh, no, when you were in New York, have you bought anything since you've been here?Yeah, I bought a vintage Mets top.

Did you?Is it nice?It's quite cool, yeah, I quite like it, yeah.Did you get one from me and...No, because, like I say, if you're going to get a vintage one, you can't just...Exactly.

You've got to choose yourself.

What have you got?Me and Roy went walking on Saturday morning with Lucy Ward and Karen Carney and we hit a street market and I bought six 1960s original magazines, life magazines, that had Martin Luther King's wife on, JFK Memorial...Wow...Landing on the Moon.Nice.

Marilyn Monroe.I'm going to...Muhammad Ali, did you...?Muhammad Ali.Muhammad Ali.Mick Jagger.

So then the Rolling Stones first came to America.I'm going to frame them and put them up in my house.So they're going to be eating them like a night...Yeah, like a fast food.

That's cool, yeah.

And then I bought seven Bruce Springsteen albums, records.They were the original vinyls.It was nice being in the shop.Lovely, yeah.

Have you got a record player?

I've got a record player at the house.I've got a record player and I'm just going to have a little vinyl collection.Just a cheeky...

Yeah, brilliant.Roy, what did you get?Some pants.

Yeah, I got some nice pants, right?They look like yours, like, linen.You know what?

I've gone with that, more, more, more, um, breathe, breathable space.Like, we're calling you Gary, Gary tight pants on this trip.Because I don't know what's happened to him with his tight pants.But, like, it just feels like, at our age, kind of, we should be wearing that kind of pant.Like tight pants, like guys wearing tight pants.And his bum is tight.

In the pants.That's how Eddie Murphy said it.

Tight pants.Which is the best city, Manchester, London, Cork or New York?It's all different.Wow.Bit silly, that.I wouldn't have swapped Manchester, me, for the people.

And the people just...I think are exceptional.To be fair, I've not been to Cork that many times, but I'm sure you'd say the same thing about your hometown, Roy, wouldn't you?I wouldn't say that.I don't know London.I wouldn't put London in that sort of...

Honestly, you go up north, you get more love.You get more kind of love.In London, everybody's like...There's a different energy there.It's all different and different.Different cultures, innit?

Yeah.

But it's nice here.I know we've only been here, what, a week?It just feels nice.

If you lived here, it might be different, isn't it?It's not like you stay in a place you think is lovely.

It's a massive melting pot.Even when we were just in the...

Everybody's there.Every colour and creed.The best football shirt at this World Cup, I'm going to throw it out there, I'm going to say the US kit.Do you like it?Scotland kit.I mean, it's a bit controversial.

Yeah.

But the Scotland away kit.The Scotland away kit, eh?It's a bit retro.

What were we looking at the other day?I'm going to get one.

Oh, we went into a retro kit for the Argentina Messi kit.Argentina's nice.Argentina.It's a nice top.But I'm going to go US, you know.I think the US kit looked brilliant.

No?Yeah, not bad.

I like Mexico as well.I like Mexico's and Mexico's.

I like Japan's away one.

I think it might be that one.Might be Japan's, yeah.

Argentina was nice, I tell you.

What else you got, Gal?Why are we struggling with our community questions at the minute?

We've got 21, we've got 16.Go for 16.

21 Second School.Which country's fans have been...

best so far?Scotland.The Brazil fans are good.The Ecuador fans, by the way, last night, coming across the bridge.

You know as well, the Curaçao as well.Curaçao are nice, there's not many of them, but they make some noise.But I think Scotland have taken the lead.taking it with the fans, man.They're just like, bam, with the bagpipes.Do you see them the other day with the bagpipes?

Yeah, I fed up with bagpipes as well.I'll give that another two weeks.

Yeah, but at the moment, it looks like they're invading.It looks like they're invading.I saw another thing with the bagpipes in front.A sea of people.It just looks really cool.

Have you ever seen a Scottish fan with a glass of wine?I was thinking the other day, all the VTs of all the Scotland fans everywhere, they've all got a pint, haven't they?Have you ever seen a Scotland fan with a glass of wine, send it to Duncan?And Duncan went, no, unless it's a pint.A pint of wine.

You do miss the Irish and Italian fans here, I think they're a loss.Yeah, massively a loss.

Particularly New York.

Yeah.What's been the best part of New York so far and what's been the worst?Traffic's bad, isn't it?I went to that game the other night.To be fair, Roy, did you see people getting out of that game, Brazil -Morocco?They said they didn't get back till two in the morning.

I was one of them.Getting back was tough.That stadium, that's where we played 32 years ago.How time flies.That's the stadium we played at.

That's probably the only thing, the traffic.When you're in your traffic, because it's hot out there, but if you're in the car for a while because you're waiting around the track, then you get freezing.

The air conditioning.

And if you turn that off, it gets too close in there.So I'm in that place.I think it's the traffic.

I think the worst is. I need to position this right.The service is very good, but the service is...I just can't get my head around it.I'llI'll give you an example.

I was sat in the bathroom that night waiting for you to come down, and in the reception bit, you know, those chairs, waiting for you to come down as well.And I just asked to order a bottle of water, and she went...That lady sat on the corner of that desk.And she said, can you give me your card?Just like, can you give me your card?I went, no.

What do you mean, your credit card?Yeah, I said no.She said, why not?Like, that type of conversation, I said, because I'm going to put it on my room.I'm staying here in the hotel.Yeah, but we need something to...

I said, I've not even got a bottle.I said, cancel the bottle of water.Oh, is that the lady who came and saw you afterwards?Yeah, yeah.I said, cancel the bottle of water.I said, seriously, this should not be that difficult, you know what I mean?

You literally think I'm going to run off and not pay, or you think I'm...It's just that distrust, and then they just throw the thing in front of you, and it's like...The 10%, the 20%, the 22 and a half...That's the thing, the tipping.And it's aggressive.It's like...

I know they do it and it's cultural, so we have to accept we're in a different country, but I've never been able to get my head around it.The idea that you're asking for a tip or the card before you've even been served.Do you know what I mean?It's like, I can't get my head around that.

That's the bit I just don't like.We'll never get used to that.It's funny because even...It was awkward the other day because...When you get here, you have to try and make sure you get some cash on you.I had some bags to bring up, and I couldn't really do it on my own.

I needed the guy, but I didn't have the money.I didn't have the dollars on me.So, you know, when he came up and brought them, I gave it to him later once I got the cash, but it's the way he was waiting around, like...Oh, God, I felt like...I had to say to him, I'm just going to leave these and are you going to be staying here?And he said, yeah, I'll be here.

I said, I'm going to get some cash and that, but it's the way he was...I know, yeah...hanging around me, like...Yeah, I know.I was like, oh, God.

I find the tipping very...It makes me anxious.

I don't know.I agree.

It makes me anxious.

It's like...And you know something, sometimes you'll press 15 or you'll press 20.Is that enough?Are they happy?Are they not happy?It's like...

When we went to the restaurant the other day, we paid by the card, then I went and got some cash money.And I gave the girl the tip, cos we had to give her a tip, cos obviously it was already paid for.And, like, I thought I was giving a really good tip.I think I ended up just counting it off, but her face was just like this.

I know, yeah.

And I gave it to her and she went, thanks, boom.I thought, that's a good tip.I think I gave her $160.

Yeah.The tip.And then do you know something?There is an amazing woman at breakfast who served us a free morning.

Oh, T, the big tall lady.

She's amazing.

She is brilliant.And she's just the opposite.No, yeah.She'll be OK by the end of this trip, don't worry.

And the best thing about New York so far?I'd say Brooklyn, just generally.

You know what, can I be honest?I'm not just saying it, but like, it's just the sights, you know, just like...What about the studio?The ITV studio is amazing.

They killed it.Brilliant.We're getting up early.I went for a walk over on Brooklyn Bridge before breakfast.

It's overwhelming.It's beautiful.You just walk out there, the sun's always nice.It really is a beautiful place.And you look over there, you see the Statue of Liberty.

Before I came up, a few people I know were saying, you like Brooklyn, Brooklyn's the place, and they've been spot on.

They've been bang on, yeah.

And then the ITV studio, people keep asking me if it's real, the background, and it's real.

Yeah, but this is why every now and then, you can hear the people's motorbikes, you can hear the cars, that's what we're saying, that's it.Helicopters.It's happening, helicopters going over, it's brilliant.

It's brilliant.

We'll do one more question.

Well, I do feel when I'm doing the games, I don't feel the World Cup has started yet, do you?Is that because of England?I'm putting it down to that, maybe.Maybe even a France or a Spain or...

Yeah, but you say that, Roy, I think when they won the other day and then the Knicks have gone out of the way now...Yeah, it was a bit of buzzer and energy, yeah, of course.The USA fans, you're starting to feel...But from our point of view, a little bit.But that's, again, that's what I'm saying, I feel...I don't know what the anxiousness is, and now I know, it's because we ain't played yet, so I don't know what we've done yet.

That's what I need to think.

Right, one more, I don't even know what this means.What are your life hacks for travelling long -haul flights?Hacks?I don't know, what does that mean?