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Estuve en el Funeral de una BRUJA MALDITA | RELATOS Siniestros de VELORIOS
Podcast Extra Anormal
There are rules in the ceremonies that no one wrote, but that everyone knows. Some are very simple. You should not attend to pregnant women and children, not leave the deceased alone, and above all, not stare at the corpse for prolonged periods. There are hundreds of testimonies of people who claim that in the ceremonies very strange things happen.
I'm not talking about a bad vibe. I'm talking about suffering, pain, that smell of death. And that even some corpses seem to not rest in peace. Tonight, we are going to tell stories about funerals. Those stories lived by many people who assure that it is in these moments where the gap that divides life and death disappears. Welcome. How are you family? Welcome to another episode of Extra Normal Podcast.
My name is Paco Arias and I'm happy to be here again in a new episode for all of you. Family, we bring you a topic that really many people have experienced strange events, events that have no explanation. And all of this happens in funerals. These moments when people, families, gather to give a person a holy burial, but out of nowhere things that have no explanation
start to manifest. To talk about these topics and these stories, I have a great friend, content creator, and also favorite witch of the house,
Dianita, Secret of the Witch. How are you? stories. Me acompaña una gran amiga, creadora de contenido y también bruja favorita de la casa, Dianita, secreto de bruja. ¿Cómo estás?
Hola, muy contenta de poder estar aquí una vez más y con este tema que teníamos pendiente desde hace ya bastante tiempo.
Desde el año pasado.
Desde el año pasado íbamos a hacer este programa y estoy muy emocionada de lo que vamos a compartir hoy porque de verdad que, o sea, iniciamos los this show and I'm very excited about what we're going to share today because we started with the funerals, they are spaces where you may not expect something beyond sadness and these eclipsed by pain and suddenly paranormal things happen. That's something... wow.
A lot of people have written to me that during some family funerals, when they die, that the grandfather, the grandmother, the uncles, strange things happen in those moments when they are watching over the body. I know it probably doesn't work like that for everyone, in those moments when they are watching over the body. I know that it probably doesn't work like that for everyone, but the vast majority do this watching over with the body present.
There are people, in their majority, Catholics doing the Holy Rosary, accompanying the family, the coffee, the bread, right? For all the people who come to be present on this night where the body is watched over. and We're going to be talking about, I also want to tell people that there are things that we won't be able to share in this episode because of how grotesque, how hard it is and that will only be available on our website which is where we have all the forbidden content available
so that anyone can watch it there at www.podcastextranormal.com.mx in any search engine, there is the forbidden content, so you can go and it is an exclusive content that is not in any social network,
only there, and it is where we also share things that you will very difficultly find here in these platforms. Also, before starting, Diana, I would like to say,
I know that many people know your work, they know you, but if they haven't seen you, I'd like you to introduce yourself. Who are you? What do you do? Social media?
Of course. I'm Dianita, better known as SecretoDeBruja. I do witchcraft, but you can find all the tips, amulets and good luck spells. I also make music. You'll find me on all the music streaming platforms. You'll find me as Diana Secreto de Bruja. And I have a new project out there called Te lo conto una bruja.
Available on YouTube and Spotify. Where I talk a little bit about witchcraft and all its influences in people's daily lives. disponible en YouTube y en Spotify, donde hablo un poquito de la brujería y todas sus influencias en el día a día de las personas.
Perfecto, Diana. Y ahora sí, tomando este tema que vamos a abordar nosotros, el tema de velorios. Quiero hacerte yo una pregunta. ¿Tú has estado en algún velorio donde tú hayas visto algo extraño?
Sí. Yo casi no voy a velorios, Paco. OK. Have you ever seen anything strange? Yes.
I almost never go to funerals, Paco. Because... I... I have a part of that gift of empathy. So for me, going to a funeral... is absorbing the feelings, the pain, and...
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Get started freewell, the instability of people. For me, a velouria, even if it's from a person not so close to me, is that I know it's something... I get home and I get a minimum of depression for a week.
Wow.
I mean, I'm sick, I don't want to do anything because I absorb it. However, it has happened to me, Paco, that I have had to see the famous dead people who don't want to leave. And it's painful. Because you get close to the box, you see them, but...
well, maybe it's something that other people don't notice, but you see their faces. I'm going to say it again. I'm going to say it again. I'm going to say it again. I'm going to say it again. I'm going to say it again. I'm going to say it again.
I'm going to say it again.
I'm going to say it again. I'm going to say it again. that people don't realize, then they just say, well, that's how it was, but no. The dead express a lot with the face facet they end up with. And that's ugly.
Look, I've heard that many people who also dedicate themselves to the subject of magic, have told me that there are certain rules that have to be followed. For example, the funerals or cemeteries don't have to take children,
pregnant women don't have to go. These are some rules to prevent something from happening to them and to cause problems in their lives. I was present at a funeral, and I'm going to say this with a lot of respect
in case a relative of mine in case any of my family members hear this, of an aunt. And it was one of the funerals that marked me a lot. I mean, it marked me a lot for what this relative spoke and saw before she died. I mean, being precisely in these moments of agony. Because I remember that the whole family gathered. It was an aunt, my grandmother's sister.
And in those years, the families had a lot of children. So, my family, just us, we were four brothers and my aunts had three, four, five children. So, it was a little curious because the adults in the house were inside waiting for the moment when the family was going to leave. But the kids were outside, catch up, running and all that.
And suddenly I heard the scream of this aunt who was in agony, a horrible scream. I mean, it was a voice that I had never heard before, and that caught my attention. I was about six years old and I heard the scream. It was an adult woman was about six years old, and I heard the scream. It was a woman, an adult woman, about 70, 80 years old, she screamed, and that made me go see what was happening.
When I got there, I remember my uncles were inside the room, they were crying, and this aunt was screaming because she said that she was not going to leave the devil. I mean, imagine that she was talking to the devil and she was saying, I'm not afraid of you, devil, I'm not afraid of you, you're trash, God has already defeated you, Jesus Christ has already defeated you on the cross. No, not even if you make those faces that you're making me. I mean, I saw me estás haciendo. O sea, no manches, o sea, yo vi el cuarto, no había nada, estaba vacío, estaban solamente mis tíos y mi tía seguía diciendo,
sí, síguete burlando, esa sonrisa, esa sonrisa te la va a quitar, pinche demonio, le hablaba así. No manches, de verdad, yo cuando vi eso de niño, tenía I was six, gave me a lot of fear. Really, a lot of fear. I remember I left, I stayed with my mom, but I had a feeling of, I don't know, like of terror, of a lot of fear.
And then, as time went by, she died, and before she died, she also screamed. And I remember that they went and closed her eyes because she died with her eyes open and his mouth open. So that traumatized me a lot, Diana. It was one of the moments...
Did they close his mouth?
Yes, they closed his mouth. In fact, later I remember that when he made his funeral, he had cotton in his mouth, cotton in the entrances of the nostrils, in the nostrils, in the ears. And seeing this, a child doesn't understand it,
an adult perfectly does, but a child sees it and says, no, man, what a fear, what a terror. What do you think of that?
Well, there are people who say that before you die, you see these things. Some people say they see the devil, others angels, others death. But that something happens when you enter that moment of transcending, well, it's a reality that we're all going will have to face someday?
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Get started freeMany people are afraid of this, Diana. They are afraid of reaching this point
and seeing something they don't want to see. Because not everyone sees angels, for example, or beautiful things. I'll give you my grandmother's example. I was there when my grandmother was going to die. I was there in her last moments example. I was there when my grandmother was about to die. I was there in her last moments.
My grandmother was very happy because she, compared to one of her sisters, who saw the devil, my grandmother saw her sisters. She started saying the names of her sisters who were already dead.
And she said their names and cried and was amazed to see them. It was a beautiful moment for her because she started saying names, she started saying how much she missed them, she started talking to them. And you say, wow, many people say that in those moments these people come for you, but it depends on how you were in life, how good a person you were. Wow. -¶¶¶ and there were times when this mixer started to move. Alone.
Alone. And my aunt would talk to her, thinking she was her mom, and she would say, Mom, I know it's you. Don't do that because you scare me. You scare me.
I know you want to be with us, but don't do it, Mom, because you scare me. Please, don't do it anymore. Go rest. You don't have to be here. She was doing this for nine days until the ninth, and from there it is said that things stopped happening.
The problem is that after a few months things happen again in that house and this family sold that house. Claro. Entonces, yo, y lo digo con mucho respeto para mis familiares, yo considero que eso no era nada bueno o nada referente a algo de luz, Diana. ¿Tú qué opinas?
No, es que precisamente, y más estando en las partes de los rosarios, o sea, sí es normal que haya precisamente estos movimientos paranormales, It's normal to have these paranormal movements, but not necessarily. It's the familiar. Because there's something that they say, that in reality, the sky is not up and hell is not down. In fact, there are scientific studies that say that as soon as the body dies, the soul comes out of the body at a much higher speed than light. And where our soul arrives is a place that would take a thousand, two thousand years to get to,
but we got there in five minutes. I mean, what I'm getting at, precisely this process, well, it is complicated.
Sure.
But I would ensure that having paranormal movements in a funeral is not the person who just transcended. They are entities that may be passing by and taking advantage of the pain to consume it.
Look Diana, with what we are mentioning, I want to start this story that tells us perfectly about these events when a family is present in a funeral. It's an anonymous story, and we call it the farewell. This person tells us that the death of his grandmother was an event that marked the whole family. abuela fue un evento que marcó a toda la familia y lo quiero dejar así clarísimo porque dice el fallecimiento de mi abuela sería el espejo más claro de lo rota que estaba mi familia eran siete hijos y yo era parte de sus nietos y aunque me dolía admitirlo mi viejita siempre tuvo razón
cuando decía que sus hijos no se podían ver ni en pintura una señora que en vida todo el tiempo admit it, my grandma was always right when she said that her children couldn't be seen even in paint. A woman who in life suffered all the time from seeing her children, seven children, arguing, fighting, I mean, a woman who had to see how her family was fractured, says my grandmother had been sick for months, and in the end she got complicated by the pressure of the arteries, diabetes, kidney problems.
And this led to the death of this lady. She says that when she was doing the funeral at her house, the children started to arrive. The family, you know, the people who probably don't give you anything in life, but on the day of death, they are... Crying, wanting to throw themselves into the box.
That's it.
The people that didn't care about the person in life, but now that he died, they feel remorse. El remordimiento. Although he was the grandmother's most beloved son, she always waited for him. Even when she was still lucid, she would ask for her son. And the family would tell her, Mom, he's coming, he's coming. And she kept saying, I want to see him, I want to see him. The lady dies and Esteban, the son, never comes.
She never saw him.
She never saw him. And this person who sent us the mail says that he arrived when the lady was already being watched. And instead of asking about her, how she died, how they are, he came asking who had the writings of the house. Let's see, who has the writings of the house? Do you have it? Do you have it?
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Get started freeI mean, he already arrived asking for the goods. And he says that at that moment, the six brothers said, Hey, what's wrong with you? I mean, haven't you seen mom? And you come asking for who has the scriptures? At that moment, he says that everyone started fighting,
but ugly, like that in the room, in the middle of the lady's coffin.
How not, Paco? I mean, sorry for the forgiveness your audience deserves, but what a piece of s***, eh?
No, of course, I mean, it's perfectly understandable. But imagine, the lady's body was there, and the children were fighting, the grandchildren were getting involved, that you never saw her, what's wrong with you, blah, blah, blah. And this person says that he was seeing how everyone was screaming, like animals, they were arguing,
that you didn't see for her, that I deserve to stay with the house, I took care of her, you weren't there. You know that kind of complaint, right? She says, there was a moment where there was all this very strong uproar,
and this person says that he sees how there were two big candles on the lady's head, on the coffin, two big candles on the lady's head, on the coffin, two big candles. And she sees how these two candles out of nowhere go out.
She says, these two candles went out. It's funny because there was no air flow, there was nothing, and the candles went out. At that moment, she says, with the lighter, she comes closer to try to she said, with the lighter, she approaches to try to light them, and something happened, she said.
The flame did come out of the lighter, but the torch did not receive the fire, it was like it did not catch fire. It did not let itself be lit. And she says that she turns, at that moment, towards the coffin that had this open window
where the body, he says, I see my grandmother. And Paco, I swear, he says, I swear, I saw how she had water under her eyelids. I saw how she had water under her eyelids. And at that moment, when I came closer to see her more closely, I saw how a tear was slipping.
She was crying.
She was crying. She was crying. And my uncles, none of them saw any of that. They were all fighting in the living room. At that moment, I got very angry. I got very angry and I grabbed her and I shouted, Can you let my grandmother rest in peace, please?
There was an uncomfortable silence. Everyone was looking at me as if I were the one exaggerating. But they went out to continue fighting in the courtyard There was an uncomfortable silence. Everyone stared at me as if I were the exaggerated one. They went out to continue fighting in the courtyard and there they continued with their quarrel. When they all left and I was left alone inside,
there was a peace, a tranquility. At that moment, before closing the lock, I realized that another tear had fallen from the other side of my cheek. I closed, I closed, he says she closed this little window, not without first telling her grandmother, forgive me, forgive me and forgive us
because even after death you have no peace. She says she lit the candles, which now they did light, but these people had to leave. She closed the window of the coffin so that no one could see her. And she says, I never told my family anything about what I saw, because they have no right to know and because they wouldn't believe me.
She says that the time came to do the burial, they buried her, and she says that when they got to bury her. They buried her. And she says that when they got to her grandmother's house, she had made a hand-drawn portrait of her grandmother, because she drew, she made a portrait. And she says that one of her aunts spoke to her. She said, oh, daughter, come, come, look.
She was crying. And she says that the portrait they had of her grandmother on the wall, in the part of the eyes, and she says. And at the end she says, for better or for worse, after the funeral, she says, my conflictive uncles broke their relationship, each one went to their side. I never told anyone what I lived. I only ask God that my grandmother can finally be in peace in heaven. Can you imagine?
Beyond the fact that this story is a paranormal subject paranormal, es un tema triste, Paco.
Y muy real.
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Get started freeAy, sí.
Eso es lo más feo.
Fíjate que yo la verdad no me importa si mi familia al ver esto se enoja, me da igual, pero yo lo acabo de ver también, Paco. Híjole. But I just saw it too, Paco. Holy shit. A guy died that we wanted... We love... A lot.
And...
I saw how everyone, instead of focusing on the pain, they focused on what he left. The guy was always very hardworking, he had money. And really, I mean, but... The whole family. They focused on what he had left, where they had this, this, and the other.
And that's what precisely keeps people at peace.
Of course.
I'm so f*****g proud of Esteban.
Esteban, the lady's eldest son.
The one who never was.
The one who never was.
I'm so f*****g proud. But look, we all pay in this life before we leave. Yes. So, it's up to you.
That's right. I've always said that everything you do here is paid for. And I feel very sad because this lady died waiting to see this child, who came to the end just to fight for the lady's goods.
Yes.
How sad, my friend.
How sad. That's why I'm telling you, beyond this story in particular, Que triste amiga. Que triste. Por eso te digo, más allá de esta historia en específico, de ser algo paranormal es algo triste. Así es. Bienvenidos a su nueva sección, Paco Casos de la vida real.
Jajajaja.
La historia que yo te voy a compartir, sí va más para el lado paranormal. I would like to share... Yes, it goes more to the paranormal side. My father-in-law told me this story, which has already transcended. But it happened in Neza, in Neza city, Gualcoyotl. It is already a state of Mexico, I think. It is short.
It turns out that an acquaintance of the Lord transcended. Um... But there were a lot of people. He was a person, as I imagine, very loved. Because there are funerals where there are no people. And in this case there were a lot of people, I mean, older people, those who prayed were also there, who later send people to bring people who give talks in churches. And there was him. and they send him to the churches to talk.
And there he was. The joke was that the night went by and a thunderstorm broke out, Paco. It rained, rained, rained, and it kept raining. It was a sad day, obviously. The most curious thing, Paco,
is when this space arrives between 3 and 4 in the morning. And it was still raining. Everyone was, well, calm, sharing, talking to each other. They were in a moment where they weren't praying. And it says that suddenly,
it started to be heard. Uh-huh. But like this, very long. Wow. And closer and closer. Closer. It wasn't inside the house, it was outside on the street. And who screams like that?
The crybaby.
That's right. So they were listening to him closer and closer. The house, the place where they were watching this person, had like gates. What they do is, they keep the children inside, close the gate, and start praying. and se quedó. Los perros de los vecinos también, no sé si de por sí el aguacerazo estaba, los perros aúlle y aúlle, pero dice que era un grito, o sea que si escucharla lejos es... se siente feo. Sí, claro. La escucharon, o sea, prácticamente los separaba un porto un porto Y así todos llorando adentro pues ahora del miedo
también cuidando a los niños los niños gritando y las señoras mayores rezando jole tuvieron que pasar de las cuatro de la mañana paco para que
esta cosa pues se fuera y que crees the Yo lo único que nunca pude terminar de hilar, Paco, con esa historia, era precisamente eso, o sea, como por... como porque la llorona en un velorio. O sea, son cosas que no te explicas. Pero mi suegro decía, esta historia no es solo mía. Muchos vecinos lo escucharon. I was listening to it. Many neighbors listened to it.
I wasn't the only one. And this is something that we all live and that we will not be able to forget. What do you think about this, Paco?
A lot of people have heard the cry. And it has this myth that if you hear it far away, it's because it's close. And if it's close, it's because it's far away. And this characteristic of the scream that this being gives, this spectrum, many people who have heard it, and my globe, it's a scream that pierces your bones.
Have you heard it?
Yes, I heard it in Oaxaca capital.
In Oaxaca.
That's right. I'm going to go back to my story. I'm going to go back to my story. I'm going to go back to my story. I'm going to go back to my story. I'm going to go back to my story. I'm going to go back to my story. I'm going to go back to my story. Nothing. Just a vacant lot. And I remember that one day I woke up, because I tend to see ghosts a lot, and witches and all that,
and this house has in the room in front, which is where I was staying, a very big window. Very, very big. So I wake up because I start to hear noises outside and I see how there are women passing by, like they were running and coming back.
And I said, oh, well, since the neighbors tend to go to bed late, I turned my phone around, three and a half in the morning, and I said, they're playing. I tried to reconcile the dream of a new Paco
and suddenly I started hearing this scream. I had already heard it once in Cuautitlan, but this time it was different. I think because there aren't many houses there, there's no place where the noise can be heard. I started to hear dogs, all that.
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Get started freeAnd at first I thought that noise, that sound, was maybe a trailer that was slowing down, until it lasted a long time. Because it's not a lament that lasts 10 seconds or 5 seconds, it lasts complete minutes. And that's when I woke up my husband. And I told him, listen.
And he listened too. escucha y escucho también y lo más gracioso era que durante ese lapso seguíamos viendo figura de una mujer así que pasaba por fuera corriendo. Qué miedo, mucha gente la ha visto, la ha escuchado e incluso hay gente que indirectamente ha estado cerca de la Llorona. And they mention that after this meeting, they suffer from high fever, that is, the temperature is...
They go crazy. This typical heat, some go crazy, some vomit.
I mean, the consequence of being close to the bad air, right?
Can I share something with you that may not go into this, but it's a topic that I've never talked about.
Go ahead.
This story is family-related. My grandfather told me about it. My father's mother's husband.
Yes.
When he was still alive. My family is from a town called Culco in the state of Mexico.
Uh-huh.
My grandfather was one of the men from before. a pueblo que se llama Culco en el estado de México. Ajá. Y mi abuelo pues era de los hombres de antes. Le gustaba la bebida, los juegos, y pues allá tú sabes que en los pueblos la bebida no es de fin de semana.
Claro. Es de...
Todos los días.
Todos los días.
Entonces, mi abuelo me contó que, bueno, para esto, en frente de la casa de mi abuela hay un pequeño bordo de agua. Alrededor hay árboles, o sea, está bonito. Está exactamente en una curva para entrar a casa de mi abuela. is exactly in a curve to get to my grandmother's house. My grandfather told me that he was walking to get to her house and it was also around 3 in the morning.
And that inside the drunkard's house he turns to the lake, well, to the edge, and on the shore he saw a woman. A woman dressed in white, but she was seen from behind. And long hair, everything, but what a very pretty figure, right? Well, he followed her.
Wow. And he said that the funny thing was that when he was about to reach her, suddenly she was walking. She was walking very fast. But I couldn't see her feet.
Like she was floating?
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Get started freeHe never said she was floating, he just didn't see his feet. And obviously, I would say, if you're not seeing his feet, it's the first sign that you shouldn't be going. The joke is that they get used to it a lot that when the crybaby takes the men, he loses them. Uh-huh. They reach a point in the village where, from what he told me, there was a crossroad. I don't remember if it was a railroad or a road, but there are these beliefs that certain entities
cannot cross the streets.
Uh-huh. So, everything that is the same, if you cross, it's a contra. When you cross your legs, your arms, and these crossings of paths, they are supposed to not be able to pass.
Right. And, well, she stopped there. And my grandfather was able to reach her there. When he approaches, he says, Hey, how pretty you are, how beautiful you are. Watch out, I'm not validating this what he did, I'm just sharing it. Sure.
He took her by the shoulder. He says that when he touched her, because of the cold she was in, he got scared and even the drunk woman got off him. Wow. But that wasn't all. that of the cups on top. Uh-huh. But he described her as not having a woman's face.
What face?
As having a face of... It's something between a horse and a donkey.
Oh, I know who it was.
He said it was the Yorona, but I also feel it was another entity. No. But I also feel it was another entity, but it was horrible. It's known as the Cegua. The Cegua.
Or the Ciguanaba. But my grandfather was able to escape. Wow, notice that this type of female-spectral entities, we've talked about it before, I think the most well-known is the Llorona. And it's the one that behaves the most with its victims, because it only loses you.
The Cegua and the Matlacigua are two different entities. And those don't lose you. Those finish you. They take you to places where you go to a point where you go on a very beautiful path, and you go to a point where you go a very beautiful path and you go to a dump.
I mean, these spirits want to end someone because they go with certain profiles of men. Machistas, aggressive, womanizers, alcoholics. Especially the womanizers. Yes, he is my grandfather.
Yes, he was. I loved my grandfather. From that part of the family, my grandfather was loved a lot.
In his youth, of course. So there are these people who have this good luck to tell how it was when they were close to these entities. And if it was the Ciguanaba, what luck did he have?
He was lucky that there was a cross.
Sure, he was very lucky.
And that he let it go.
I tell you, I feel that my grandfather was not bad, precisely because he carried the heat of the alcohol on top.
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Get started freeIf not, I think that he was aware that he would have had a heart attack or something like that. That's strong, my friend. I want to tell you this other story, because here I'm going to touch on the paranormal a lot, on the subject of funerals. There is a person who sent me this email, it is an anonymous story. And what makes it clear to me, first of all, is that all this happens when my cousin Leticia dies at just 28 years old.
Very young. Very young.
Very young. She says that she was almost the same age. She worked in an accountant's office. Unfortunately, when she was in her vehicle, a truck hit her and she was left without brakes. Something very sad.
She says that on her funeral day, many people came, from university classmates, friends, family, I mean, a lot of people came on his funeral day.
A lot of people loved her.
A lot, he says, his parents were totally destroyed. Everything was very sad, horrible, he says. It has been one of the funerals where they carry many gifts. He says, in this funeral, I had never been in one where there were so many flowers, so many gifts, so many ornaments.
All the people really got together. People who loved my cousin very much, to give the family their condolences, they carried these details. There were many. He tells me that his cousin was seen at a funeral
because many reasons happened. Among them, they didn't allow him to see her body or her face because of the way in which... They couldn't re-do it. No, everything was really, brutally messed up. So, they saw this young girl, Leticia, in a funeral home,
and it says that's where the whole family got together. They were going to be there all day, all night, and the next day was going to be the burial. And it says, the truth is, I came to support my aunt, my aunt was there, my uncle was there, my aunts were there, my mother, we were all there supporting.
It says that as the hours went by, more and more people were arriving. She said, I, the truth, like my cousin, we are the same age, we are of the same generation, I started seeing many old friends and classmates from the university, even from high school. So, a lot of people started arriving and she says, the truth is that we were all there together.
I saw several ex-colleagues, I mean, even though we were at a funeral, we were chatting, he says, like to try to make all this more or less.
Well, there are also people who are of the idea that a funeral should not be sad, and of course, because in the end we are celebrating what was the life of a person.
Well, not celebrating, you are sharing and talking about beautiful things. That's it. He says they were sharing anecdotes with Leticia. I mean, hey, do you remember when my cousin, I mean, they were remembering a lot about this girl who had died. So, they were all together, there were a lot of people. He says that around 7 p.m. he sees a girl coming, and when he sees her, he says, this can't be.
This girl who was coming was a former girlfriend of the high school. He says, no way, she came to my cousin's funeral. He says, a person was coming, apparently her husband, was coming behind her. And he says that he goes and welcomes them. Sonia, that's the girl's name, and he says that he offers them a place to sit and he takes them to a place where there are available chairs.
There she was, him, and there was a child sitting. He says it's his son, I knew he had a son. And he says they were talking, and he was talking to both of them, talking about the past, talking about when they were friends, not boyfriends, because the husband was there. They were flirting. He says that they stayed for two hours.
Around nine, ten at night, he sees that they get up and start to leave. Some of them were already leaving, a few stayed all night. He says, the truth is that at dawn, only the two of them were left. and I was on my way to the funeral home, and I saw that Sonia and her husband had already left. But I saw that the boy who was coming with them was sitting there.
And I approached him and said, Hey, where's your mom? He said, she left.
He said, he left too. And he said, And who did you stay with? He said, I'm alone. With my mom, but I don't know where she is. ¿Con quién te quedaste? No, pues estoy solo. Con mi mamá, pero no sé dónde está. Dice, a ver, a ver, a ver, ¿cómo?
Me dijiste que se fue. Dice, sí, pero no sé dónde está. ¿Y no te dejaron con alguien más? Y dice, no. Dice, en ese momento, él sacó su teléfono y como no tenía su contacto,
dice que buscó su perfil en Instagram She said she looked for her Instagram profile and started looking for her. She started sending her messages. She accepted the messages and called her at that time, 2 in the morning. She said she was on the phone and she answered her like, What? What happened? She said, Hey, didn't you forget something? No, what am I going to forget?
Your son, why did you leave him here? She said, I didn't go with my son, I went with my husband, nothing more. to ¿Dejaste a tu hijo? Dices que yo no fui con mi hijo, yo solamente fui con mi esposo. Sí, tengo mi hijo, pero aquí él no fue. Dice, a ver, a ver, dice que le cuelga y le dice, ¿Quién es tu mamá? Dice, es que no encuentro a mi mamá. Y dice que empiezan a caminar por toda la funeraria and he goes to the door and he sees a woman with thin, skinny back.
And he says, there's my mom. And the boy lets go of his hand and runs away with his mom. The woman never turns around, she just gives the boy her hand, opens the door and they go in. And he says, but where did they come from? He says, maybe, well, maybe since the funeral is very big,
maybe they were in another funeral home.
In another space.
In another space. And he says that when he was going to follow them, he ran into an employee of the funeral home. He says, hey, you can't open that door. He says, why? He says, it's because we keep some things in the refrigerator.
He says, no, I can't believe it. I mean, I saw a woman with her son. In fact, the boy was sitting, I offered him a whipped cream, I offered him coffee, and he says that the employee was like, how was the lady? The boy, he says, had a striped shirt, the lady had a white dress, thin, thin.
He says that the employee at the funeral was like, in shock. He says that we have the ass of a mother with her son Chinita delgadita Dice que el empleado la funeraria se quedó así como un show Dices que tenemos el de una madre con su hijo guardado ahí Lo tenemos ya desde hace varias semanas No estamos esperando que vengan los familiares Pues a reclamar los y los tenemos ahí en refrigeración and we have them there in the fridge. And he says he was cold.
He says, let's see, I took it by the hand. I mean, he didn't feel the cold of dead people. No, no, no, he was a normal kid. The kid walked, offered him food. He says he didn't want to eat, but the kid was looking for his mom.
He says, I understood that when his friend was there, his ex-girlfriend, the boy was there, but they never talked to the boy. He got confused and thought it was his son. The boy was alone. The boy went out to walk around and he was for many hours among the crowd, but since there were many people, colleagues, family,
he went totally unnoticed. Until he realized that they went to the cooler door, which he thought was another room, but yes, that's where the bodies are kept.
That's strong.
Can you imagine having contact with a dead person? I mean, with a child, with a person.
I swear to you that right now my head is going boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. God, I don't know how to carry this that I'm going to tell you, because we're going to mix a little bit of gifts in this story that's coming. It's from my mom. I've told you, I come from a family where the extrasensory abilities seem to be hereditary.
My mom is a premonitor, she sees what's going to happen in the future,
but in a short time. premonitora, ve lo que va a pasar a futuro pero en un corto tiempo. Ok.
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Get started freeMi abuelo también era premonitor y mi bisabuela era medium. A mi mamá le ha pasado que desde que trascienden sus abuelos de ella, ella lo vio. Y ella lo presiente cuando fallece una de mis tías también lo vio, and she saw it when one of my aunts died, when my grandparents died, her parents also saw them before she died. We had always seen that my mom was having a hard time with her family.
She had to see how they were by a witch. How is the transcendence of a witch. She saw it.
Well, I'm going to tell you with a lot of respect. Um...
All the neighbors
already had the idea that the lady was a witch.
And in fact,
she was nice. I mean, she wasn't a person that was unpleasant, but it was noticeable that her magic And in fact, he was a nice guy. I mean, he wasn't a... unpleasant person, but you could tell that his magic wasn't with good intentions. He worked with pure astral lows.
Demons. Demons, dead people, I mean, pure astral lows. What happens is that, all of a sudden, Paco, he got sick.
When the lady was well, I mean, whole and everything, sick, and one day my mom wakes up and when we were having lunch, she told us, Today, this neighbor is going to die. And we all stayed, watching each other at breakfast. Why, mom? Because when something like that happens, we already know what's going to happen.
And here's the historia, Paco. Dice, en la noche, yo soñé, porque mi mamá lo ve todo a través de sueños, yo soñé que estaba su casa de ella muy alumbrada. But I was there and they were coming down the street, many people dressed in black. But they were not people with good intentions. They came in like this, and they were getting into the lady's house. And she was yelling at them,
go away, I don't want you, what are you doing here? And the joke was that later, those same people, in groups, came out, but the person who was going backwards was carrying the lady, pulling her by the hair,
dragging her,
and the lady was screaming.
And my mom said, today she dies. And guess what? She died. My mom had never had an ugly vision ¿Y qué crees? Falleció. Mi mamá jamás había tenido una visión fea de cuando alguien trasciende.
Al contrario, sus visiones de mi mamá tienden a ser luz, tienden a ser... Creo que lo más feo que a ella le pasó es que con una de mis tías, pues a ella le tocó viendo una película of my aunts, she saw a movie where they were taking a box down and when they opened it, she literally saw my aunt's face in the box.
And that's how she knew my aunt was going to die. But I'm telling you, that was the worst thing ever. She saw how they took the lady dragging her hair.
You reminded me a lot of a classic movie, Ghost, the Shadow of Love. Ah, yes, when they take the bad people by the feet. Yes. I mean, how is it when good people die and transcend, and how, when they are bad people,
how do these demonic shadows come, tormenting them, forcing them, pulling them, malas como llegan estas sombras este tipo demoníacas por ellas atormentando las
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Get started freelas obligan a las halla por más que corran y se escondan se lo llevan no y y que crees que el velorio si de alguna manera fue triste paco fue triste porque no hubo gente o sea estaba así muy vacío muy vacío It's almost very... Empty. Very empty. Hey Paco, I wanted to ask you a question. Tell me. Well, I already knew that here in the set they scare you and you have a lot of things. Right?
But what is it that walks behind your window?
You saw it? Yes. Yes, it's Don Chepe. We know him as Don Chepe. He's a man who died nearby. He has a hat. He's not the man with the hat. But he's a man with indigenous features, like a town man, who normally comes here.
And he always passes behind town that usually comes here. And he always passes behind me, through the window.
Through the window, exactly. But the funny thing is that he's like peeking.
Yes.
He peeks like this, hides, and then he does it here behind the camera that is pointing at me. Yes.
He also does it like this. Yes, it's kind of creepy. In fact, once I made contact with him once with Radiestesia. And what I managed to get out of the information is that he arrives because there is energy here when we are talking, telling about the things I have and he feeds on this,
but he is not aggressive with me directly. He doesn't mess with me. With some guests, he lets himself be shown. And with some, he has taken them out of this studio.
Yes, that's what I was going to say. Because I know you love it when you get little details and all that. You have them all. Although I feel like there are some things that you didn't get with the best intentions. But... It's not uncomfortable, but it's curious. It's not the first time I've been here.
And I barely...
You barely saw him.
I barely saw him. I mean, I had already noticed that here, because it's not just him, you have more. You have more dead people here. But... It's barely the first time. But it did make me curious to ask you.
He always does this movement, look. Yes, like this and hides. And hides. He always does it. And sometimes it's in the corner over there. In that corner. I mean, it's always in the corners. Here, here, here. I mean, it's always in the corners where he gets up. here. It's always in the corners where he stands.
And it's the places where there's less light. Because he looks like a black shadow. So he's always looking for places where there's no light to stand or, I don't know, to be there.
But then you have to be careful, Paquito, because a being of light is not afraid of light.
Well, look, until now we have been wearing them quietly. And remember that there are entities that also pass by other people to have contact. And what you are telling me are the characteristics of a shadow man. And those who wear hats can even hit. No, I'm clear. One person's backpack was dragged, thrown away.
Here? Here. He was the producer of a person who came to record with me. He came, I recorded with the person, he came accompanied. They always travel accompanied. And when they put their backpack on a table, they return it.
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Get started freeI don't know who it was, but I think it brought a very bad energy for them to have done that.
Yes, the guy, the producer, didn't want to go in. In fact, I recorded with the person, but he was out at all times.
Outside of here?
Outside of here.
I mean, not just the set?
No, on the street, at the banquet.
Well, what can I tell you, my people who are watching us, entities, when they are grateful in some way, they also tend to protect. Yes. I should put a candle or something.
Yes, in fact, some candles that we light, like, there you go, Mr. Chepe, thank you. There you can enjoy the time the candle is lit. So, I'm going to fill up some things that I'm getting, and then I'm going to present the last gift that a samurai gave me. It has a pecu... Have you seen the samurai's eyes?
Yes.
How are his eyes?
They move.
They move, right? Yes. They told me to leave it there. If someone comes with bad intentions, he is also in charge of throwing it away. If someone has bad intentions, he's also responsible for throwing it away.
It's very beautiful.
I love everything that has to do with the Oriental. I love it. Now I want to tell you a story, Diana, that this story really makes me very sad because it reflects a lot something that happens in many families. We have titled this story, The Farewell. A girl named Marianne shares it with us, who tells us that very strange things happened
at her uncle's funeral. A person who loved a lot, a very good person, a person who unfortunately dies young at 48 years old due to a prostate cancer.
Very young.
Young. He tells us that he was the brother with whom his father had more ties. So he was an uncle that she loved a lot, but unfortunately, the cancer charged him a bill. He tells us that this happened around 2003, when they found out that this guy was very aggressive and that unfortunately a very sad situation started to happen in his family. This uncle, this person, Rafael,
had his wife Mercedes and two 15-year-old sons. What Marian tells us is that when they detected cancer in her uncle, her wife, with whom she had been married for 22 years, began to act differently. Her personality with him changed a lot. When the economic problems began, the expenses with cancer, personalidad con él. Cuando empezaron pues los problemas económicos, los gastos con el cámara, él ya no podía trabajar. Ella tuvo que buscar otro empleo y a los dos meses, tres meses de estar en
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Get started freeesa situación, la señora, su esposa, le dijo, ¿sabes qué? Tú ya no eres el mismo de antes, mi vida no es la que yo quiero. En este momento, yo me voy. Dejó al señor Rafael. Rafael with his two 15 and 17-year-old sons. She took him and left. She said, no, I don't want this life for myself. She abandoned him. Mary tells us that her father and mother took care of him.
She, too, being a niece, was taking care of him along with her children. The expenses, all this, well, let's say they were aware of this man. He says that a few days before he died, the man spoke to his grandmother and told her some little things in secret, some orders. When they are at the funeral, this man was also buried in a
funeral home, he says that the family was there, only them six, Marianne, her mother, her father, her grandmother and her two children. So there they were there, and he says that it was around 11 at night, when Marianne's mother shouted, What do you have to do here? You get out of here.
When everyone turns around, And he shouted, What are you doing here? Get out of here. When everyone turns around, they realize that this lady to whom he was saying this was the wife of the man
to whom he had left. The one he had left? Yes. The one he had left.
He said, get out of here. And he says that the whole family stood up to the lady, Yes, ma'am, you get out of here, because you left my uncle, you abandoned him in the middle of cancer, you missed my uncle.
They made a promise the day they got married that health and illness would be together. And he says that the whole family was chasing the woman, but unfortunately her children stood by her side. They, even though they knew that she had abandoned them, they loved their mother and they stood by her side.
And they told her, no, mom, don't go, stay with us. So there was a little friction between the families, and she says that the grandmother got involved and said, let's see, this person, my son, made it very clear to me before he died that he didn't want this woman to come near him and see him. He didn't want this woman to come to his funeral.
He didn't want her near his children, his coffin, nothing. But, well, the children were there with her, so it was like she could see the the kids wanted to be with her mom. And above all, the lady came and apologized, she said, no, I know I was wrong,
but you have to understand, they've been together for 22 years, so, no matter how much I left, I still love Rafael. So, the family was like, we don't want that story. And they say that when the lady was walking to where the coffin is, you see that they have this little window open,
just centimeters before she looked at her face, this door...
It closed.
It closed.
She almost hit her face. She almost hit her face. She almost hit her face when it was about to close. And she says that the whole family was watching how the coffin door closed.
And she puts her hands in and tries to open it. And she says that when she started to want to get up, she couldn't. And she couldn't. She didn't want to. She didn't want to. And the lady, Rafael's mother, the deceased man,
told his wife, I told you that my son didn't want you to see him. He told me this in life. And please, I ask you to leave. They say that this woman realized that she couldn't open the window, turned around and left crying.
She left crying. Her children left behind her. The man in life said, I don't want this woman to see me. I don't want her to see me. I don't want her near me.
Don't let her near my coffin. I don't want her to see me. I don't want her to see me. I don't want her near me. Don't let her come near my coffin. I don't want her to come near me. Because she said she was coming, doing her show of tears, chest blows, knees.
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Get started freeThe typical thing we see from a person who has remorse.
Exactly. Because, let's remember, she left her husband, who had cancer, she abandoned him with her two children. So, she, she was very clear that the Lord, even after he died, didn't want to know anything about her. He didn't want her to be seen, he didn't want her to come close, the fact of closing the door and still jamming it, because, why did she leave?
The girl who sends us the email says that she left, she lifted the lid and easily left.
As if nothing.
As if nothing. So she shares this anecdote with us, which is very short, but it makes us think about how a person's decisions work, how when they transcend, even after death, their decision is still there. The fact of saying, I don't want her to see me, I don't want her near me.
And if the family allowed it for the children, he had to go in there and make himself present.
Well, that's how it is, Paco. And decisions, even at that moment, have to be respected. The last thing I'm going to share with you also has to do with the moment of the funeral and the one after.
A very famous influencer friend one day came to ask me something at a meeting. Yes. a very calm, it seems like she is a friend of someone from that family because she was coinciding with them for several days. But she says, there was something that caught my attention before going to the funeral. She says, and it's that besides the fact that the boxes are not the same as the ones we see in Mexico, there is not so much...
Well, yes, there is not so much economy for a nice coffin, right? He describes it as a box... as if it were a jackal.
Yes.
Right? He says...
They opened... the box and put a knife in the hands of the dead. Oh, I know what it is for.
Well, he didn't ask anything, he didn't want to, he thought era una tradición, y pues sí, realmente es una tradición,
pero lo pensó como que era algo común.
¿Claro?
Ajá.
Y dice que pues ya fueron, hicieron el entierro, todo normal. Pasaron tres, cuatro dias
y tuvieron que ir toda la familia de nuevo al panteon
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Get started freeporque habían recibido una llamada
que el muerto había matado a una persona. A ver, el muerto. El muerto. Había matado a una persona y que había que volverlo a sepultar.
Esto que me está diciendo está de locos. O sea, el cuerpo como tipo zombie.
Se levantó.
Se levantó.
Pero.
Wow.
Aquí hay una razón, Paco. Wow It turns out that in Haiti, Paco, the dead are buried with knives so they can be defended if a necromancer lifts them.
If he wants to use their remains for witchcraft.
Uh-huh. Or they are lifted as zombies to bring them as if they were their... Slaves.
Their slaves.
And this dead man managed to defend himself. Wow! Diana, no manches! that she told me, right? That she defends herself, the body fell, inert next to the witch. And there they were, the two bodies lying there. No way!
They had three days, I mean three or four days,
that they had just buried him.
And they were going to bury him.
And they had to go and put it back in. They did what seemed to be a ritual. She told them that they sang, applauded, danced, and had a bonfire inside the same pantheon. And they put the box back in. But again, they put a...
In case it happened again.
In case it happened again. This is something common there.
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Get started freeNo, no, you're talking about Haiti. You're talking about a place where things go to an extreme. Where we find in hoops, not a bone, we find the whole bone marrow. extremo donde encontramos en en gangas no un huecito encontramos toda la osamenta completa y es que yo sé que una persona por ejemplo que muere por brujería el muerto puede vengar su muerte si tú en la tumba le pones justamente un cuchillo o le metes una moneda en la boca entonces el muerto
literalmente se supone y esto me lo explicó una persona que el muerto cuando a coin in the mouth. So the dead is literally supposed to be, and this was explained to me by a person, that when the dead transcends, he forgets these thoughts that he had in life. So this hatred, this resentment, this that he had,
he loses it, it's like blank, you know? But when you leave this, you leave the memory that someone did him wrong. And by leaving them this tools, he is the one who occupies to go and do justice. He remembers, he does not lose that memory
that someone sent him to the other world. And we know that when you are in this plane, the dead can find a person, no matter where he where on the planet, just like that, because they move at the speed of thought. In the astral world, that's how things work.
That's why when you're sent a dead person, it's fast. So, it's supposed to be that way. This is done in some places in Mexico, but in Nigeria, things changed dramatically.
Why, Paco? Tell us.
It's because, supposedly, that's where the most powerful magic comes from. What we have...
The oldest one, too.
Of course, the oldest one. What we have today, and we know it as these Afro-descendant religions that are found in America, already have these mixtures, these mixings of religions. So, syncretism was already created, but there, the original is maintained. The original witchcraft. The one that is not mixed with Catholic saints,
the one that has nothing to do with the Holy Death, and I give it a lot of respect, but here a mix is already being made, a syncretism of beliefs. Even if they are Afro-descendants, things are mixed, because that's how it was,
it was mixed, but there, there is the most dense in witchcraft, Diana. Yes. There is the most dense witchcraft, Diana. Over there is the most powerful. And I feel that from all over America, I feel that Haiti is still the one that respects a little more
the coming from there, because they were precisely slaves
those who arrived in Haiti.
Well, you said Haiti, I was confused because apart is Nigeria.
Yes.
And Nigeria is where people are looking for, where I was telling you, where all this is maintained. Yes. It's in Nigeria too.
Yes, no, totally when my friend told me this, I said, wow. I mean, I once, years ago, I don't know if you remember this magazine, Big Bang. Sure. Wow. Well, this magazine, I don't know if you remember, had a horror section. I knew there were necromancers in Haiti and Cuba, more in Haiti. But I didn't think this could be so real. I saw it as a tradition,
burying their dead with knives, with something to defend yourself, right?
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But, I mean, to hear that someone I trusted came and told me,
Diana, this happened, the dead killed someone. No, that's another level.
You don't expect it, Paco.
This is very amazing, because I was talking about you, I was talking about Nigeria and some parts of Africa as well, where the powerful people of Mexico have to go to these places to do witchcraft, but already very heavy, very heavy, I'm talking about political class, class... pesadisimos, o sea pesadisimos. Yo hablo de clase política, de clase... Pues hay un caso muy famoso de un león. Bueno, que ofrecía leones una vez al año.
Así es, ese es famosísimo y ese se hizo en estas partes del mundo donde se maneja, sí, este tipo de magia. Fíjate hasta dónde nos movimos este Diana con este tema. Look, how far we have come, Diana, with this topic. We got to Nigeria, we talked about people, entities that have nothing to do with the Velourios, but they are there. But they are present, right? Diana, thank you very much for giving us this chat. How did you have fun?
Oh, Paco, it's always a delight to be able to share, to be able to be here in your space, also with your beautiful audience. Thank you very much.
Thank you, Diana. Thank you for giving us this chat. Before we go, please remind us of your social media.
Remember that I appear as a witch's secret in all my witchcraft accounts.
Diana, witch's secret for my musical questions on streaming platforms. in on our website. I'll see you there. www.podcastextranormal.com.mx Don't miss it. See you there.
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When someone from the family went through, they made broth.
They fucked it up. Parts, certain parts. When someone from the family came over, they made broth. They ate it?
Parts, certain parts.
Having a kid's bone, just dead, doesn't guarantee that the first one will work.
Well, they made musk or chamorro broth. ♪♪ -¶ Bueno, pues, ya se hace que hacían caldo de musgo o de chamorro. Si hacían ejercicio de pesas o así, tendían a ser caldo de... o de...
-¶ Él llegó a tener cerebros completos, -¶ Él llegó a tener cerebros completos, o sea, puertas completas en esos calderos.
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