Even TRUMP cringed when he saw this one

Remember that J .D.Vance is not usually the smartest person in the room.And this is even when there's very few people in the room.I must say, J .D.

Vance met with attorneys general yesterday.And I can only imagine that even Donald Trump cringed when he saw this.Here is first of all, before we even get to the substance, here is J .D.Vance entering the room and the crowd goes mild.Just nobody really seems to like J .

D.And by the way, there is audio playing here.It's just that this group of people is so quiet when Vance walks in that you might think the audio isn't working.

Everybody's standing here.

Please take a seat.All right.So the crowd goes absolutely mild for J .D.Vance.And then listen, this is this could be funny.

J .D.sort of jokes about is it attorneys general or attorney generals?It could be funny in some setting.

But he's just so painfully uncharismatic that it just bomb kick it over to Andrew Ferguson.He's going to talk a little bit about how we're going to work with these state attorneys general and its attorneys general.Right.Not attorney generals.It's, it's very counterintuitive.We're going to change this.

Maybe the group here together, we've got enough of a critical mass of attorneys generals to change it.But Andrew attorneys general, I'm never going to be able to get that right.And the media of course is going to make fun of me for it.

Andrew over to you.Well, it's more about your lack of charisma.

Thank you.

Thank you Mr. Vice president and welcome to all the state attorney.And look at the grin on his face.The sort of look at this look.Look, um, the, the, the sort of, uh, I just did a funny, can we change grammar arbitrarily to my liking now?I don't, I don't want to make this show primarily about grammar.I'd rather make it about spelling if it were up to me, but here's the easy way to remember it.

Are they attorneys or are there are they generals?Well, they're attorneys.So therefore, it's attorneys general.You might call it that.You think about it this way.They are general attorneys for the states they represent.

They're they're the most general attorney.There is the overarching attorney.And there's many of these attorneys.OK, I'm doing this not because I love grammar, but because the vice president is an embarrassment.Then we get to the substance.And this is where, like, Do they realize what they sound like?

Here is J .D.doing his sanctimonious rant about how fraud is bad and we should want to get rid of it.It's a little bit ironic coming from a guy in this administration.

And as I've said repeatedly, this is not need to be.This should not be a partisan effort.Everybody should care about fraud.Everybody should care about rooting out fraud.Everybody should care about saving the American taxpayers money.And importantly, everybody should care about actually protecting the programs that only work and are only properly funded if it's not if the money funding those programs isn't being stolen by fraudsters.

So, well, we do care about fraud.That's why we want you out.That's why we want Trump and J .D.Vance gone.We're against the ballroom because we care about fraud.

We are against Doge because we care about fraud.We're against Trump's cell phone scam because we care about fraud.We're against.And listen, we're even talking about the slush fund.Trump's getting money from other countries, billions and trillions.We do care about fraud.

The problem is we have people in power who are perpetrating it rather than rooting it out.Finally, the prince of darkness, Stephen Miller, was there and he makes completely unhinged claims about social welfare programs.Now, let me concede something to you, because this is a this has a long, dark history in American politics.This this type of thing that he says goes back 40, 50 years.If social welfare programs really did work the way he claims.It would make a lot more sense to be against them.

Listen to what he says.

The points that Andrew hit on his remarks, all of the systems in our country, whether you're talking about voting, whether you're talking about entitlements, whether you're talking about welfare benefits were set up based on the honor system.They're set up based on the idea that you could trust the average person through their own morality to abide by the rules and comply with the law.And so the way most welfare works in most states and most places is we take your word for it.If you fill out a piece of paper and you say, your kids are hungry, you are going to get food stamps.We don't check as a country if you even have kids.A fact as basic as that.

We don't even check if you even have children.You will just start getting the checks.And so what's happened to our country is we became a society, as you've seen with the Somali refugee problem in Minnesota, where you have a large number of people that are not following the honor system.

So this is completely untrue.There is no honor system there.It's just that it's just not the case.Now he's talking about food stamps.Food stamps require verifying household composition and the identities of the members.You need to provide birth certificates, school records, Social Security cards, et cetera.

It's not the honor system.None of what he's saying is true.We recently with with with our kids.my partner takes the has them as dependents.And Immediately upon filing her taxes, she got a thing saying, hey, we got to verify the identities of these kids.We need Social Security cards, send in records if they are enrolled in any kind of daycare.

It it is so untrue.Now, if it were true that the way it worked is you sign up for whatever food stamps, free health insurance, but there's no verification, child tax credits, all of it.And you just get you just get the money.It would make a lot more sense to go, man, I'm skeptical of this program.I don't know if this is being run in the right way.Should there be more oversight?

Sure.I love more oversight with any program.You have a free rider program.You have to free rider problem.You've got to figure out what's the right amount of enforcement.And this is not unique to the United States.

It's not unique to Somalis and whatever he's talking about in Minnesota with food stamps.With any program, you need to find the right amount of enforcement that is going to get the largest number of people to be honest.and do enough sort of trust, but verify to catch people that are not being honest.And this is this is a global problem with any kind of social welfare program.And it's been figured out.But he wants you to believe it's just the honor system.

Everybody's lying about it, all this stuff.Well, I guess we should get rid of these programs, shouldn't we?Part of the lie is lying about what the programs even are to get people to be opposed to them.Part of why we're doing a one day membership drive on June 9th.is because we must build independent media to beat back and resist exactly these types of corrosive lies, which, if believed, get people to go.Maybe we should get rid of food stamps.

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