EXPERIENCIAS PERTURBADORAS Invitado: Dross EP 1 Bloomerfield

Good evening to all of you guys, welcome to the resurgence of this channel as you have just heard. And today I can't hide my joy, I can't hide my emotion, because I am not only in front of the creator of the channel of the greatest horror genre in Mexico, nor the biggest in Spanish-speaking countries. Today we are with the creator of the biggest horror content in the world, a super talented writer, and a person that I'm really excited to meet and I'm excited to share this table with him

and start this project with him, Ángel David Revilla Droz

Thank you very much, boss, really I am very grateful, what a nice presentation It is an honor for me to be here before you

and before your audience Thank you very much, friend, really as I told you a moment ago, you are a person that I admire a lot, but well, I will try to leave the funk that is inside me encapsulated for a moment because if not, I will not be able to start with this.

And today we are going to play an extremely interesting song, and it is that you have disturbed the minds of millions of people, you have left many people sleepless, but there are also such interesting cases that have taken your sleep away and that today we are going to touch, today we are going to discover the cases that really managed to disturb Dross and they tell me that there is a new section on the channel, well it's been a year or so, more or less, yes, but it has revolutionized the way in which the genre of your channel moves and it is a section called dear Dross, correct, then in this section people People send the most interesting stories to their channel. Stories or experiences of the audience.

They write them and send them to the mail. And sometimes these stories are so strong that they surpass any horror movie that exists. And today I want you to tell us about a friend and it is from the one who started this section. The one who premiered the section, correct. What is his name? 2x1 Friend, can you tell us a little bit about what this story is about?

Yes, one day a person who works in a cemetery writes to me, right? If I remember correctly, he was a man from Uruguay. He told me a chilling story, and he gave me evidence of it. He proved at all times that what he was telling me was true. And it turns out that when he worked in the cemetery, he was a burier, and he also arranged things around the cemetery together with his colleagues.

One day, by virtue of life, he realizes that in a coffin where a person should be, there are two people, two bodies. Which is absolutely irregular. This is known as a two by one. A two by one, yes. To make it short, boss, it turns out that drug traffickers, mafiosos, bad people, call it whatever you want.

An ideal way to disappear corpses they have is to grab and place in a coffin, next to the dead person that belongs to that coffin, the dead person that they want to get rid of. Because, as they say, if there is no corpse, if there is no body, there is no crime. Do you understand me? And it's a fantastic, formidable way,

very ingenious, it's terrible, it's ignominious, but you have to recognize that it's a brilliant plan. And they put them there, in a coffin, they put two corpses, two bodies, whatever fits. Two bodies in a coffin, and this man, along with his companions, ends up realizing, by an accident, this. And you can imagine the terror that enters his skin. I remember that when I made him an email, he was afraid.

But he felt a guilt, something very strong that changed his life when he realized this. And when he knew that in a job that until that moment was very quiet, he was living very close to the evil of terror, of horror, because that was not a dead man of natural causes, it was a murdered person. Yes, in fact he narrates that sometimes he finds bodies that still have the blood dripping from them, correct, that sometimes they even have the weapon with which they were taken from life

embedded in the body, so many times the criminals do find this perfect way to hide a body in a place that no one is going to look for it and that when it is discovered, the same workers discover it, the same workers and not only that, he at some point, I don't know to account that, but he theorizes in a very intelligent way that this is a practice that surely it is not done only in that cemetery in that country, but it has probably been

done in many other places in the world. And that is the greatest secret kept by all the burial grounds of the cemeteries. Correct, there. There are many who know this and say nothing. Because if they say it, they become practically accomplices. Correct. And the investigation will revolve around the cemetery watchmen. Correct. It is very likely that they saw where they were. I mean, they can get in trouble and they don't have to have absolutely no fault. You understand me? The interrogations, the thing, Eva, how did you find out? I remember that in the email he said that he was afraid that the police would involve him in something that had nothing to do with it.

And it's a homicide case. The problem is capitalized. It's not something you can get rid of easily. Not even by association. He doesn't need to be guilty. It's understand me? It's also a little bit the fault of the system. Yes, and especially because at some point, one of his fellow burglars dared to speak. He narrated that he had found two bodies and as a result of this, the investigation revolves around this fellow grave digger and the police arrest him and put him in jail for having narrated that he found this extra body. They accuse him. So all the grave diggers or those who get to know these two by one, start to shut up.

Because it's the best. Of course, because it's the most outrageous thing in history, boss. The system protects the criminal in some way. The system is protecting the criminal. Because apart, it is the misfortune that we sometimes live in the countries of Latin America and also of the whole world.

Now the world is upside down. In the first world atrocities are seen equal to those here. And it is that the grave dweller becomes the idea at some point that maybe he should call the police and that's his death sentence. Because, I don't doubt that there are extraordinary police officers in our countries. Yes, excellent people, but there are also very bad people. Do you understand me?

Yes, yes.

And it's like uncovering a wormhole. But what this person is telling in the mail is that this particular case about which he writes to you particularly draws his attention for the end. He, on one occasion when he is burying a body, it seems to me that they prepare them to destroy themselves. Sure, when a person has been buried for a long time the plot where he is buried is no longer paid and the body is reduced

that is the precise word a reduction of the body which is already a skeleton even the bones are already dusty black bones and when they make a reduction

it is a slightly elegant way to say something very unhappy which is with a shovel they completely destroy the body until it can be put in a bag. Ok, and they say that sometimes the body reaches a state that seems to be mummified. So when this happens, they can't reduce this body. So they make the decision to keep it for another year. And what the burglars use to cover the secret of the 2x1

is that they take a look at the coffin. First without the family, of course. And they have the perfect excuse, why do you want to see that? Of course, because a family member will want to see that. They go to one side, they see it and see incredible things and then they report completely different ones for the tranquility of the family.

Yes, so when they find a 2x1, they silently make a sign or a gesture to their companions that indicates that there is an extra body. That's when they tell the deceased's relatives, you know that the body is not ready, it will have to be kept for another year in the coffin. During this time, they take advantage of it to remove the second body, the body that does not belong to this tomb, and reduce it using an oven,

I think that was the way they did it in this particular cemetery. I do not doubt that in others they do it in other ways. But what he finds in one of these occasions changes his way of seeing things and as you said, perhaps the guilt he felt at that moment was overwhelming. And it is that he opens one of the coffins and discovers that there is a woman inside it. He tells his

companions, we have a 2x1. They tell the family that the body is not ready to be reduced and they leave. However, what he saw was more than a simple woman. He indicates that this body has clear signs of sexual abuse. Correct. That is, the shocking thing, imagine that you are a grave dweller who works in a cemetery, and that you meet a day with a two by one, that is already impressive, that is already

something that will condition your life. Because it's a matter of... You're 25, 27 years old. You're going to be 70 and you're not going to forget it. But on top of that, the ignominy of meeting a person who died in an atrocious way, in an absolutely abominable way, that there is no right.

And that was what he came across. That is, hunger and the desire to eat came together, to put it in a vulgar way. To top it off, the person they had put in wasn't a mobster, it wasn't the execution of someone, of a drug trafficker. No, no, no, it was a victim.

It was a victim in the broadest sense of the word. It was a person who had a mother, who had a lot of love, he had loves, he had disappointments, he felt fear and pain. He said goodbye to life like that. She was tied up and had a grotesquely big *** in her throat. Yes. In addition to these signs of abuse that were evident

especially because the girl was not more than 10 years old

Exactly

It's easy to see why the guy who wrote this to me blew up He blew up I don't really know if it was so much guilt as if it was something very strong that is something that burns him inside and needs to be released in some way and he wrote it, dear Doros, and that's how he gave birth to the section with that story so macabre and real, because he provided proof, yes. He took a lot of risks getting that evidence at the time.

And he kept them and one day he decided to share all that thing that had been kept for a long time. In fact, I reviewed the comments of that video and there were stories that caught my attention. Someone said in a comment, my grandfather worked as a grave digger.

Aha!

Do you remember?

That's how it was, that's how we realized that this is something international.

Yes.

Exactly. And one day he stopped being himself, he stopped smiling, he stopped greeting the family, nobody knew why.

Sure.

My grandmother told me, you know, it's just that your grandfather saw something very strong in his work and from there he changed, but it is not personal. Of course, the ignominies continue to add up, boss. We already have that it was a girl who died in an atrocious way. And on top of that, there is another issue that one has to have emotional intelligence, at least to realize. And it is that they become an accomplice. This guy fell on top of it completely,

without the intention of doing it. I imagine he had a quiet job, and one day he fell on top of it, on top of everything, he becomes an accomplice by association, because he had to shut up.

It's overwhelming. It's overwhelming, yes, yes, yes. Of course, yes, yes, yes. It's of course, imagine, there are people who are left with the world down when they fail an exam at the university, or when they forget something at home, or when they get home and discover that they don't have the wallet on them. Imagine how many times, a hundred times, and that it never gets solved, because what I just mentioned, you lose the next day and get angry, but no, this has been burdening him for a long time, in one way or another.

And finally he releases him in Dear Dross. And he releases him, yes. And well, as a result of this case, this section is born so dear to your channel that I must say is spectacular. Each case exceeds the previous one. Dear Dross, I don't think there is anyone who doesn't know you in the audience, but if not, the links will be below. And well, as a result of this, a snowball in your channel was triggered because many people start telling experiences like this. Correct, that encourages many people.

I have always received emails from people telling me things, telling me stories, right? Some say, no, this is a lie. Others I know they are true. One already intuits it. Those are the tricks of the trade. You already know what can be true, what is plausible and what is not. But after that video, a lot of people started to send me material because people are worried that you believe them. And what do you do to make them believe you?

Send evidence. And boss, look, I think Gerardo already told you, they have sent us unbearable things, even worse than 2x1. In fact, we said, no, since YouTube is today, we cannot do it and we have had to shut down the most sordid, most grotesque, most filthy stories more than they make you express, please, let the world stop, that here I go down

in this stop I go down, no, to the shit in fact, playing the name Gerardo, Gerardo Blumerfield Gerardo Blumerfield is the producer of the Dross channel, Dross Rothsang. So he tells me that there comes a point in which the cases are so strong that you decide not to review them anymore. I want to do it, of course, because it is very disgusting, it is very indigestible. They have sent me things,

I don't want to say it because I don't want them. They've sent me things, I don't want to say it because I don't want you to get demonetized in the video and I don't want you to, now that the YouTube algorithm is there, I don't want to talk about it anymore. But the lowest, the most inhumane, the worst,

the most repulsive abuses that you can imagine, they've sent them to me, and they send me evidence, that if I send it to the police, I will destroy it completely. I don't know if the guy changes his name at some point, but they send me evidence. And I know it's the same guy, because in the videos it's the same guy. And, boss, what can I tell you? What we were talking about a moment ago behind the scenes, there comes a point where

you recognize which case is real, who is lying to you and who is obviously a degenerate. That is a skill that is acquired in the trade. Yes, yes, correct. Yes. Apart, you can solve that very easily by asking for a couple of very tactical, very precise evidences that you know that if it gives you that, that's it, it's true. But in addition to the cases of dear Dross,

in the Dross channel other topics continue to be touched, that come out a little of this and it is that you are a journalist who, I must say, is obsessed with the case and Gerardo told me that there was a particular case

that you were a particular case that you got a little obsessed with, maybe Because it was a supernatural case, I don't believe in anything I don't believe in supernatural things, but if something made me doubt a little, it was this case It all started one day

I was digging to put a new post

I felt like I hit something with iron. But it wasn't iron. When I took it out, it was a box. Inside was a book. But next to that book, there was a bag of fabric. I didn't pay attention to it the first time.

I just kept it, put it in in my backpack and took it home. That amulet that they sold in that bag is this one.

It was this case because I was extraordinarily well prepared for a person who you don't expect to be well prepared for, for comes from far below, who doesn't expect you to do something like Spielberg. But not Spielberg for the good special effects, but because everything really fit. Everything fit. I've taken many cases with tweezers, many, and I see where they were coming from. Some creators who want to make their work become real. Elías was perfect. Wherever you saw him, he was perfect. And look, he had many pages, many open fronts.

Everything could go wrong, but everything fit, everything fit into his story. And on top of that, he had evidence.

And I said, and he had evidence.

And I said, no way. And I remember that the way the devil harassed him, the way he approached it, was much better than any stupid Yankee movie produced in the last 10 years. Stupid and not stupid as well.

Let's see, the exorcism of... what's the name of that movie?

Emily Rose? Emily Rose has nothing next to this guy. Nothing. And especially because it is not a brutally exaggerated case. And it comes from a security guard, brother. A security guard who lives in a house with a zinc roof. Yes, and who has a cell phone with the quality of a calculator. A 20-year-old cell phone, I mean, what came after the flip-flop is what he has. Yes. And the story was perfect and there was

no one behind him. I knew that because I did the research. There was no one, it was all his. So you added the things, it't be that this guy has hung himself with such a story. And it was perfect, and the truth is that later I started to investigate the demonic possessions,

the demonic bible, satanism, and everything was perfect. Everything in the story was perfect. The ritual he described, the medallion he had, the items, the memorabilia he used to tell the story, the process, everything was perfect. This guy knew what he was talking about. And for those who don't know what we're talking about, I'll tell you quickly.

Elias was a security guard, and I say he was, you'll see why in a moment, because he was also a lover of invocations, a lover... Yes, he was very into that, very into Satanism. Yes, so he makes a kind of invocation with a small altar with a cross upside down that at first glance seems very amateur, something maybe... Something very improvised.

So he tries to have contact with some demonic entity.

I take you out of the abyss so you can present yourself. Now I order you in the name of Lucifer who gave me the power for you to come here in the name of Lucifer,

who gave me the power to make you come here.

Now...

that you are present in the name of Lucifer. You cannot do any harm.

You cannot leave this place because of the sealed seal in your space. I order you to take off your glasses.

However, Elias was perhaps not aware of the price he should pay. All this you are telling is something he had done a long time ago.

Yes.

Over time, things got worse and worse and worse.

Because what he said was that at first he got something similar to what he wanted.

Yes.

But then it went rotting. That is, like when you receive money from the devil and at 24 it becomes shit. Exactly. Something like that. But in the long run. So he starts to say that he feels harassed by one or several entities. By an entity, correct.

Yes, he feels harassed, but they are things, I mean, it's not like a stupid movie about the Warren marriage.

Yes.

Exaggerated, stupid, stupid, that insults your intelligence. No, no, no, no. It was very well done. Very well done. I mean, it was very realistic. The credibility suspension was nonexistent. I tell you, better than any movie.

It happens, of course. Only I, because I am aware on everything that's happening around me from everything that's been happening to me lately.

I saw something there, guys.

I can't see anything. I'm sure I saw something there, friends. What the fuck? What the fuck? What the fuck?

What the fuck? In the name of God. Why? Because being in a room, as you mentioned, with the ceiling falling, everything... Of course, suddenly the guy is like this and insects start to sound, but without context. And if you know the subject, but a lot about the subject, you know that insects start to sound, it's a manifestation. It's a manifestation, and the guy reads insects, insects, insects, and very subtle things that terrified him. A person who doesn't understand this subject, watches those videos and gets bored.

But who understands the subject, who really understands, it's like art cinema for the understood, the case of Elías, I tell you. Anyone gets bored, but the one who knows about the subject says, shit, but this is really textual, textual of the best manuscripts written on the subject, what's happening to this guy. I just suddenly... and... that's why

I decided to record

because I thought I would hear it

but all I hear are frogs because I'm a little scared and I'm not sure Why did that fall?

This didn't have to fall.

The fire is deep down there. I hear something in the background It's like something

I'm going up a ladder that is there but I don't want to go

because

I don't know what it is

I don't know if you can hear it. I think I better go in.

What was that? It feels weird, guys. Please, if said, no one is going to see it complete. And he did it in such a disinterested way. I mean, the level of production that he had to have had to get all that, the level of information, was very high for such a small profit. And that is another of the things that pushed you to think that what was happening was true, that is, that he had a foot in reality or Elias is a brilliant content creator who deserves all the money that these Hollywood

fags are making, he deserves it much more. Because even insects in their weird behavior and in their sounds, they get to hear psychophonies of voices. Correct. Voices that say, come here, we are here, and other types of sounds. Also, if in the videos you suddenly hear psychophonies, I didn't hear them, I found out from the audience.

The 10-20 minute, the 30-12 second minute, you hear something. And I put it on, and it was true. Then I put it on the editing program in Vegas, and it was true. The block psychophony was there, no one could hear it. In fact, you put some that I wouldn't have heard. You see, you say, pay attention, turn up the volume. There are some, boss, that you can't notice if you don't have an editing program.

And if you don't know how to edit, you'll never notice. You realize a security guard who lives in a house with a ceiling of zinc, who really is a guard. The look of the guy, you say, doing that, I mean, it was perfect.

He doesn't have a computer, he has an old cell phone. and how these details that we just talked about are full of his videos

because what is I don't know what that is What? Leave me alone! What are you? Leave me alone!

I don't know how long this is going to last.

What? What? What do I do? Let's finish this What to do it again. I'm going to do it again. I'm going to do it again. I'm going to do it again. I'm going to do it again. I'm going to do it again. I'm going to do it again. I'm going to do it again.

I'm going to do it again. an image between the corridors that stalks him. In fact, he reaches a point where he sees something on a wall and almost vomits. No! No, no, no, no, no!

No, no, no, no, no! I can't do this! I can't do There's nothing. Please, God. Let it end.

Answer!

No, no.

John, what? No, no, no, no, no more, no more. My father and holy father. When is this going to end? God.

My holy God. What is that, God? Holy God, no! My God, no! Yes, correct. It's a lot. And on top of that, the pieces of the book

are the pieces of the book. The pieces of the book Yes, correct. It's a lot, and on top of that, the few parts where you see something happening, that not even in the movies they show you, you see something happening, the special effects are perfect, brother. Impeccable, I mean, muah! A work, I mean, you have to put salt on that, that RG. If it's RG, I'm very skeptical, I don't believe in any of this. But the truth is that this story was... it made me doubt.

The truth is that it made me doubt, seriously. Gerardo commented something, and it's K. There is no personal parecer K. So I'm pretty good contact with you. So interest that is a business. He knows him. What is the most common thing?

But you will put in a list of a purple party. What could he say? I saw him say man as you know, he's creepy. Yeah, but get a personal you think you think you can prove our can wear a

bad. I had to prove that it wasn't true. But I'm not going to publish it in a video, it's for me. I don't want to publish it in a video, I'm not to be denied. I'm not in charge of denying anything. It's not my job. However, I had to find the flaw. It was like a detective hunting...

It was like hunting my Moriarty. You know?

I was in Moriarty's house, of Moby Dick, at that time.

And you failed. And, let's see, look, they say that to see to believe, I to give green light and say I believe in this story, I need more. I need more, I would even need to go there. But... Impeccable. Because this story... This story culminates realizing that who uploads these videos, who uploads all the evidence that we just mentioned,

the evidence of Elias' demonic manifestations, is not Elias. He's a friend. Uh-huh. He's a friend who has access to all the videos that he left. Because Elias, and as I said, had had contact, it is because Elias no longer has life. And not only that, I don't want to say the

word doxing again, but I sent to investigate the friend, and the friend was who he claimed to be. Because I later said, surely the friend is a producer, very talented, a genius, who came off with something brilliant.

No.

No.

And the profile picture that the channel that was uploading these videos used, this channel managed by this person, was the photo of Elias inside his coffin. Yes, correct. So it's shocking because he also uploads videos of when they give him his coffin. Yes, incorrect. So it's shocking because he also uploads videos of when they give him his grave.

Besides, another detail that was exquisite, because it bothers me when they insult the intelligence of others, especially in the filth of movies they make nowadays. Not this one. It was so exquisite, so well done, boss, that the friend was wrong and didn't upload the videos in order. Exactly, exactly. Video 15 was number one. Of course, you had to organize it, that is, the guy did the

job well and I said, damn it, they are doing it on purpose, damn it, but these are already very fine details. Yes. That even if it is at risk that the RG is bad. Yes Yes. And look, people were not interested in the RG at all, that is, if it was an RG, but I mean, it was an RG, but the more I looked at it, the more I thought, this can't be, this is a hidden gem. I just found the last gold coin in the most remote corner of the Titanic's ass.

That's how I felt.

And it's just that... I mean, to send something like that, that no one appreciates.

Well, I appreciated it.

And because you were there for weeks. I'm sorry. My son. Come here. Your daughter. Your daughter. Your daughter. My daughter. My daughter.

My daughter.

I was contacting friends. I have contacts. People from Mexico., please take this, I want to know who this guy is, if you have to go there, go there, take a picture, talk to him. They gave me the photos and I couldn't upload them to the channel because I was people. There's no one behind the friend, nor behind him. They were the ones who said it was serious, very poor people. Yes, and also...

Without education, without having received the privilege of being sent to a good school. Nothing. He was a guy who came from the countryside, okay? And the friend too. But you commented on something very interesting. And that is that Elias was not a victim. Elias had sought everything that had happened. Elias deserved everything that was happening to him. Because he attributes all this to a medallion that he claims to have found, but he never mentions things that are even emerging in the comments of this channel because you even started to read comment by comment looking for maybe a missing piece in this puzzle and there are comments that even

refer to the fact that Elias took his own father's life. Yes, Elias looked for him, yes, that's how it is, it's that apart from that, you didn't talk to Elias, you talked to Elias' friend. Right? Yes. And Elias' friend gave you details. I mean, he answered all the comments. There were so few comments, boss, that he answered all the comments.

You know what I mean? All of them. Even the ones I put with an account that wasn't mine, because I didn't want him to realize who I was.

No, no, no.

Sure. No, no, no, of course. I left but very, very, very, very, very far below, yes. And he answered everything. And the worst of all is that I said, aha, with this I'm going to fuck you with this that he just sent me from Mexico. And I asked him the question, knowing the answer. No, man, he gave me the correct answer. I set him up until I got tired, until I got tired.

No, he answered well. And the worst part is that he wasn't Elias pretending to be a friend. No, no, no, he was really another person, brother. And it's that you upload so much content, so good, and so many interesting cases, that one thinks, this guy doesn't affect him at all, this guy already surpasses that barrier.

Of course, when you are as skeptical as I am, that you don't believe, I'm an agnostic, that you don't believe in that, and suddenly, it's like being a parapsychologist, 99.9% of the cases in your life are all lies, you know they're all lies,

and suddenly you find yourself with that 0.1%. And I said, well, look, in my career doing this,

this was my treasure, at the end of the rainbow. Well deserved. Look, thousands of cases, thousands of people I've talked to, and look, I found something I said, it can't be. The case of Elías is undoubtedly going to be a question for everyone, in fact, I was talking about it can't be. Elias' case is going to be a question for everyone. In fact, I was talking to Gerardo.

If this case was false, someone would have already found Elias. He would have already taken a picture of him and said, you know what? This guy is here. This guy is alive, but to date it has not happened. Of course, it was in doubt whether Elias was dead or not. Yes.

Because new videos were appearing, I mean, new videos, I don't know when they were recorded. Videos of him even very boring, talking about things that, I mean, talking about his interpretations of the Bible and they were divergences of a person who doesn't have all the players in his head. Let's be clear. And worst of all, I also asked a psychiatrist for help.

Please watch this video and tell me if this guy is, is he doing it? Is he doing it or is he? And she told me, he is. Definitely because it shows the clear symptoms of a schizophrenic person with this problem,

and such, and such, and such.

And there are some videos in which it seems that the devil is getting into his face. Yes, yes, yes, no, no, no, and yes, the guy has a bad time and you see the terror, the terror, the terror. And the worst of all is that it is like, when he feels that he is coming, he gets very scared and starts to tremble and gets pale.

In other words, in addition to the whole work, he's a first-rate actor.

Oscar.

Oscar. Let's see, the last winners of the Oscar, of the last five installments, don't have a damn thing next to this guy. I'm serious. I'm sure.

I mean, Jamie Lee Curtis, nothing.

Next to...

The girl from The Exorcist, one of the best roles in history.

No, no, no, no. This guy is ahead of him.

By far. And look, I think it's an RG, indeed, but if it is, that guy really... If there are idiots in Hollywood who made a lot of money with a shitty story, this guy really deserves to be a millionaire. Get him out of that house and put him to live in the most of Chapultepec. Do me a favor, because he doesn't deserve it. I mean, what a genius. Yes, and also, you pointed out in the video, all this was recorded with a horrible phone.

But it's Hannibal Lecter, the guy. Yes, yes, without culture, without education. And you can see how the objects fly out. And it's Anibal Lecter, the guy, if it's an ERG, it's Anibal Lecter, the guy, definitely. But well, friend, it's a delight to hear you narrate these kinds of cases.

Thank you, boss.

However, we already told the cases that affected you the most. Now I want to tell you a case from your channel that personally left me a lot to think about for a long time. And it is the case of ritual destruction by a satanic cult.

Correct.

So a satanic cult contacts them wanting to evidence how it is the process to take a person's life, but not in a conventional way. They say they don't need weapons, they don't need a knife, not even their hands to dirty them, because they are going to do it in a spiritual way. Exactly, through black magic, very black magic. And who better than Gerardo to tell us this story? Of course, and you know how we knew?

It was thanks to Gerardo that I knew that he was in a real satanic sect and no, forgive the language, a herd of pajeros. Because there are many pajeros playing the darks, when they see them, they can't take it anymore. But thanks to him, to Gerardo's knowledge of these topics, I guess these people were serious. And besides, these people also sent us things that we can't upload to the channel again.

At this moment we are in Buenos Aires, in Argentina. But what do you think if we move to Uruguay to know the history of the satanic cult directly from Gerardo Blumerfield, producer of the Droz channel? You will be in good hands. So, right now we come back with Droz, we just go with Gerardo, he tells us a story and we come back with you, my friend. Let's go!

Hi, how are you, boss? It's a pleasure to be with you. And it's a pleasure, at this moment, to be a spokesman for our channel,

which is the channel that leads Dross, and that today we make it a team of trained workers that shares their vision, that shares their way of conceiving horror. And precisely one of the new sections of the channel, of modern times, and the main section of the channel, at the moment the most popular, is precisely Dear Dross. A section that began, in an unplanned way,

with the anecdote that Dross has just told, with the anecdotex1 anecdote and that somehow opened, uncovered a Pandora's box when people, that's when I suggest to David to continue creating, to continue producing stories sent by the audience. The problem is that the audience is very diverse

and the anonymity led to all kinds of stories, all kinds of stories, some tremendously disturbing and in fact some illegal. There were people who confessed murders, there were people who confessed rapes. Faced with this avalanche of cases of all kinds,

David tells me, look, Gerardo, this is really something that is affecting me psychologically, having to read all this, I will pass it on to you directly for production, the ones that you consider that need to be trans work more thoroughly, we give it to you.

And in that transition stage, reading the emails that come to Dross and selecting the stories, I notice an email that contacts me directly, in the character of a producer and told me that Bloomerfield was about to kill a person. The message was very striking. And when I opened it, it had a kind of logo, a membrane of a Satanist organization.

At first I was alarmed and we were in constant communication with Dross and I said you won't believe me but I just received an email from people that well, there may be an interesting story here but

here, if this is how they say, we will have to give notice to the authorities. We respect the confidentiality of the sources, but if there is a life in danger, we have to be part of it. The point is that these people referred not to a death by their own means, by their own hand, but through a satanic ritual. And they had contacted me because of my past and my link in the late 90s, early 2000s, which Droz spoke about, through the portal Mondom Morbo, about my link with Satanism. I had links with Satanism, with the Church of Satan, with the representative of the Church of Satan for Latin America,

Daniel Melendez, a Colombian, that we all knew as Tezcat, and who was, in fact, the translator of the Satanic Bible to Spanish, which I helped him to review. Due to those links that I had with Satanism, I am known for my appearances promoting Satanism in the show of Cristina,

in First Impact, in Ver para Creer, in Aquí Ahora, and many Satanists of that time, of the X generation, millennials, as well as I knew Dross, know me. And this High Priest of this sect contacts me and says, Blumerfield, you will understand this. That's why we wanted to talk to you. We want Dross to give us an interview, and we want to tell him because we are about to kill,

to do satanic justice, as they call it, about a person who offended one of our brothers. So I tell him, look, in Dross' channel, we don't handle the interview format, but if there is a story, and given what you're telling me, I don't see anything illegal,

because if it's not going to be a direct murder, you can tell me, if there is a story here and we can tell it, we talk to Dross, we give it a format and we publish it. We have a section right now that are stories from the audience. So tell me what the story is about. And there, a few days later, they send me an email, and in the creative process I share it with Dross, telling him. Dross is the first thing he tells me, these must be some clowns,

he is usually more skeptical than me. He doesn't give much credit, he goes to see who they are, a sect from here, from Argentina.

Sure, and I imagine that's where you fit perfectly in the channel. Because when I introduced myself to you, you gave me this brief introduction of your past in Satanism. It is also important to mention that Gerardo, as Dross mentioned, has been a producer for a while. In fact, if you check Dross' videos or any recent video, at the end, there's always your name as a producer, always emphasizing this. But, going back to your past in Satanism, you told me something very interesting,

and that is that you became a kind of contact for the lost causes. Because, to the people who also belong to Satanism and who want to tell this to someone, many times they don't do it because they are afraid of being judged, and with you they find...

Yes, someone who can understand them, because I speak their language. Although today it is something that I do not profess, I had a change, a spiritual conversion, already from 2007 I became a Unitarian Christian. Unitarian Christianity is very particular because it allows the freedom to be what one is. God will not judge us for the clothes we wear or for the

horror books we read. So, somehow I'm still respected by the Satanists who have this kind of thing to tell. Because they know that I was in that place where they were, they know that I speak the same language and that I will never play a role, idioma y que nunca voy a jugar un papel, digamos, maniqueo de dividir todo en malo y bueno y mucho menos mojigato de decir no, no, yo con satanistas no hablo. Por eso esta gente y muchos otros antes me han contactado de ambientes oscuros. of dark environments. I told Dross, he had doubts. I told him, David, here is a story. As a writer, as a former Satanist, as a producer of your channel, I tell you, here is a story

because these people handle a language that is not improvised. I realized that there were people who knew what I was talking about. They were Satanists of a fairly high degree of initiation and of a Luciferian cut. Because Satanism has several currents, right? There is one that is more materialistic, like the Satanism of the Avellan, there is another that is more spiritual, the Luciferian. These Satanists were of Luciferian descent, that is, they believe in the real existence of Satan.

They practice worship, they do rituals.

In other divisions of Satanism, you also told me that there are people who believe that Satan is the human desire to sin, practically?

Yes, it is the carnal desire of man. The most popular or most widespread current of Satanism, which was the line that LaVey founded in 1966, when he published the Satanic Bible, and everyone more or less knows who La the abbey, Anton Labey, that is a materialist satanism

in which those satanists don't believe in the personal existence of a devil. They believe that satanism represents the carnal desires of the human being, that religions try to tell us that they are wrong. So, they believe that satan is oneself, and that one must give in to those desires. That is the symbolic way of worshiping Satan, giving in to what they call indulgence. But there is another part of Satanists that derive from what was called the Temple of Set by Michel Aquino, a sect that rivaled in popularity,

who believe in the personal existence of the devil. They believe that the devil is really Lucifer, he is an angel of light, an angel of knowledge. So, this Argentine group had a more inclined towards Luciferianism. They really believe that the devil exists, they believe in a personal existence, and they perform rituals.

So, there I suggest to him, Dross tells me, go ahead brother, you handle this issue better, follow the case, follow it. I always follow several cases in the production, I investigate, I see. Follow the case. I always follow several cases in the production.

I investigate, I see. There this cult sends me an email with a number of videos and with a story that seemed to me the script of a horror movie. And it was all documented with videos, some extremely disturbing videos. Some of them were released on the channel, in the video of the Dross channel called the satanic ritual of destruction, and there were others that I shared with Dross and well, obviously in our production meetings,

we decided not to include them, because first, they would close the channel. For example, the Black Mass that this sect does before the ritual of destruction, they always do a Black Mass before. In the case of these people, that black mass was even a sexual ceremony, which could clearly be called a satanic orgy. You have to keep in mind that the term orgy was originally the name of a festivity, of a ritual.

Today it was not not a sexual party, this black mass, of which they send me the video, includes this orgy, includes the naked girl with the cursed host, soaked in menstruation, they commune with the menstruation of the girl. And they make a series of invocations.

And they also start, in a place that I do not know, they tear the heart of an animal that I suppose, I don't know if it was like that, I suppose they sacrificed. And that is the heart that they burn in the video that does appear in the Dross channel. We take that part out and leave everything that has to do with the invocation of this demon

that they call Marvas and with the ritual and what they say is the subsequent consequence, which is the destruction, hospitalization and death of the objective they had, that it was a man who had abused one of the members of that cult.

She tells the leader to fear the worst. Fear that his blood brother is abusing his two nieces. And fear this because in his childhood she was abused by him when she was a child. So with this background, he goes to the leader of this temple and asks for help, since he is a police officer and has access to the database of the information of the people who have been arrested or accused of something. The police officer does an investigation, because he is also a leader, a member of this cult, and they verify that this man was accused

precisely for that, for the abuse of his daughters.

The High Priest, the Magister of this sect, the satanic sects, always have a leader, who is generally called the master, if it is a woman, the master. And the leader, in the case of this Argentine sect, is a police officer with a lot of experience in investigation, he makes a background check on the family of this member of the sect,

and he notices that he had been investigated, accused of abuse, and had been overrun by a technicist. let's say, for a technicality.

The judge, like everything in justice,

said that certain injuries...

It's very repulsive to read,

but he said that certain injuries that the girl had,

which were clear signs of abuse,

she had inflicted herself playing with a bottle of shampoo in the shower.

Once this magistrate establishes that there was a damage on these girls, he authorizes the ritual and they do it. And then they send me the recordings and the description of everything that happened.

In this ritual it is indicated that they invoke a demon called Marvas.

Yes.

Who is it?

Well, what they tell me, because I have several meetings with the leader of this sect, whose name I cannot give for obvious reasons, they tell me that one of the ways that the destruction rituals work is to call, precisely, to do a black mass first, then invoke the demon of destruction, which is the one you just named, so that it possesses the body of the initiated. Exactly. Once the body of the Initiate is possessed by this demon, the heart of a sacrificed animal

is made that the soul of the target enters the heart and then what the possessed does to the heart affects the body of the person they are looking for as a goal. And that's what you can see in the video of the Dross channel. And, in fact, if you consider it, we will also leave the videos available so you can even see footage that was not presented on the Dross channel to illustrate it. From there, they show me the result.

One of them took the job, this man falls ill, gets dizzy, falls and hits himself, and has a septic shock. They also sent me the medical part, with the diagnosis of the technique. He had a septic shock as a result of a fall,

which had something very strange. And they sent me a video of him in CTI a few moments before he died and they even sent me the moment of his death which cannot be shown on YouTube

because YouTube does not allow you to show the death of a person but well, I the story for me was there. The story was there. In that case, I don't imitate moral judgments. I just gave it shape, I put it together with all that material,

I presented it to Dross, Dross loved it,

and Dross gives it what Dross does best. so that you may assist me in this ritual of destruction. Grant me the power to destroy the body and spirit of the one who has offended me.

Hey, friend, and going back a little bit to your personal life, to your conversion, precisely, from Satanism to Christianity, there is something there that you told me and that impacted me a lot, and it is that it seemed, and I do not say that it is, as if you had been charged a price. And it is that many times, yes, other members of Satanism judged you for, from one day to the next, started to tear.

Yes, look, when am a Unitarian, as Isaac Newton was, as Miguel Servet was. I started to live as a Christian, and yes, all the people of the satanic environment started to accuse me of being a traitor. Some started to say, no, Bloomumerfield is infiltrating Christianity. He is pretending to be a Christian.

I would say, guys, if I wanted to infiltrate, I would not choose the faith of unity, that there are 7000 in the world, we are a minority, I would choose the most powerful evangelical church and a religion with a higher profile. I would go with the pastor, and say, yes, here we have Blumerfield, who came out. In fact, Cristina Zoralei,

when she heard about my conversion, she invited me to go to Univision again. I broke the Bible in her show, and I cleaned my ass with the Bible, in Cristina's show. And that, if you look for it on the internet, it's there. So when he found out about my conversion, he said,

I have to do a special of this guy. I mean, and I was like, but it's true, yes, yes, I converted. Now, there were satanists who believed that I was playing a manipulative card to infiltrate me, others that I was a traitor. On the other hand, Christians doubted me, because I had basically been left in a kind of no man's land.

But my conversion was sincere. And it was born that I started to investigate the Bible to write a book against the Bible. That's what I wanted to do in Mexico. That's when I started reading the Bible, on my own. But investigating it, I realized that religions don't teach this.

I realized it was a totally different book. But going back to the point, at that moment, I felt very happy, but the biggest attacks came in my life. Many threatened me with ritualistic destruction, for that supposed betrayal. Many warned me that it was going to be hard, you because you escape from the devil from the closest place,

because of my links with Satanism. The truth is that in 2009, after suffering a lot of discomfort and misfortune, after my conversion in 2007, one day my body started to swell, to swell, to swell, my arms, my legs, my feet, I couldn't walk, I was deteriorating, I was deteriorating. I live in an apartment and I can't get to my apartment on the third floor because I can't go up the stairs. I go to the doctor and they don't find anything. He says, but you have nothing, I have something, I'm dying, don't you realize? I couldn't walk, I couldn't eat, I couldn't sleep. It was a state of total discomfort and the doctors couldn't find me.

Until one day, boss, I just jumped into a taxi and went to the emergency room. I said, I'm not leaving here until they tell me I have something, I'm dying. There, a cardiologist analyzes me and says, did you have a heart attack? That I know of? No. Did you lose consciousness at some point? No.

It's just that you have a torn heart, swollen, you have a wound in your heart, you have a tremendous wound and you have it swollen and you're in stage 4 of a heart failure. And when the doctor came to give me the news, she came with a psychiatrist next to her. And I say, why is she here? Well, I come to give you support, basically, a little more and they sent me a priest to give me the news,

because in fact the news was that I had... look, the life expectancy is very short, you are at the end, your heart ejection fraction at that time was 16%, it was very low, I was at 16%. I was very low. I was at 16% of the heart rate, of the FEBI, and that is considered terminal. Well, they compensated me, they balanced me, they drained 30 liters of body fluids.

I take the psychiatrist's hand and I say, well, I'm very sad to know that I have little time left. I can cry, but inside I feel happy in any way to have met God a short time before and that he will hold me at that moment. And... they drained me in the hospital more than 30 liters of liquid that I had retained

because my heart was not pumping as much as necessary. They drained me 30 liters of liquid that I had in my legs, in my arms,

in my whole body. They took me, I was hospitalized for almost three weeks, they started to give me medication. The plan was to extend my life as long as possible, hoping that a donor would appear, a heart donor, I went to the transplant list,

but they told me, look, it's very difficult for someone to appear in the time we have, which is not many months. I, anyway, yes, as you, I think at some point, off camera, you asked me how I interpreted this. Look, there is one thing that is real, that is in Job's book, in the Bible.

Satan seeks to test us. He seeks to hurt us, as Job was done. And God, our Father, sometimes allows it, as he told Satan. Go and touch him, but don't kill him. Go and take it away, but don't hurt it. I don't know if on the other side, in the spiritual world, that one does not see, there was not a

demon, just like that, you left? Now you will see for having gone. There is nothing that demons do, as we believe in the Unitarians, that is not with permission of God. Demons can't do anything if God doesn't allow them. And sometimes God wants to know if the conversion of one is sincere. Because, I could also be an opportunist, and God having the power to know everything, doesn't mean that He chooses to know everything.

Sometimes you have a son and your son has a private diary and you ask him questions that maybe opening the diary he could know, but you prefer to ask him, what does it say there? And let your son tell you. And sometimes God could see what we have inside, but he prefers to see it, I prefer to allow those tests.

I took it as a test, but at the same time I felt a calm inside me, like something that told me, have faith that you are going to get out of this. I was given a life expectancy in 2009, well, they operated on me, I have angioplasty in my heart, they gave me a life expectancy of between 6 months and a year and a half. In 2009, we are in 2025.

It's funny because every year they did the same study. And I say, and it's been a year, what does it mean, that I have 6 months left? No, because of how things are now, I think you have about a year and a half left. And I always told my friends, well, God renewed my contract. Until at a certain point, well, the cardiologists said, you have a normal heart, something you've never seen before. I think there was an important intervention of God, I thank God.

Then I had a relapse, then I recovered again and ultimately I reached the point of balance in which that ceased to matter to me. I will die when my God decides that I have to die. I have a very peaceful mind, honestly, I'm not afraid of death. My only fear, because I know that for the Unitarians death is rest, is to stop existing, we don't believe that we go anywhere, we stop existing and we sleep.

My only fear regarding death, Sefe, is that I would like to see my son, the reason why I fight, take care of myself, eat, and you know you wanted to bring me tequila, I do it for my son because he's young, he's six years old, and I want to see him, and that he has his father, at least until he is 18 years old. But at least as a child he has his father. But when these problems begin,

these problems of experiences, of demonic attacks, of nightmares, of night terrors, yes, of course, I felt them. Because they were not normal nightmares. I dreamed of entities that harassed me. I didn't know who to turn to.

And of course, I kept in touch with Draco, who, after that time, I started to see that he was the same as Dross, that man who has a channel of top 7 and so on. But this one is Draco. And then we started to talk through messages and I decided to tell him my experience,

what was happening to me. I told him, look experience, what was happening to me. I told him that I converted to Christianity. He said that he could understand me better than anyone else, and that I don't consider him a traitor. One thing that Dross has is that he is unable to judge anyone. He has told me a thousand times that he never considered that he respects my beliefs at all.

And well, I started to share. From there, the reconnection with Dross began, with whom I had no contact since Mondomorvo and all that. It takes place a little later, around 2010, 2012 and from then on, with contacts for this topic that I was suffering from, attacks and others, because I felt that he could understand me, what I was living and well, just like many people,

I tell you, today it is up to me, at that moment I resumed contacts with Dross. These experiences that I had and the fact of my conversion were very useful to me to achieve this synergy with Dross workingented the formula and it's a brand. Dross is a product, it's not just a person, it's a way of doing horror. We all identify with it. I brought some fresh ideas to the channel, some things that Dross had encouraged us to do, maybe because we all have personal prejudices,

among them, play biblical themes. When at one point I suggested to him to do, I remember, top 7 religious themes, for example the 7 sins, the 7 capital sins, to make a top, a place for each sin, the gulag, the lust. He had his doubts, Dross. He had his doubts. I don't know if people... But there came the surprise of seeing that a large part of the public is a believer. A large part, and I say, but what are you amazed at, brother?

I say, if your audience is in Spain and Latin America and the United States, it is obvious that a large part of the people are believers, but the atheists also liked it, because the atheist also liked to see Dross treating something different, biblical issues. And the videos linked to prophecies of the Bible, which obviously when I became a humanitarian, I started studying theology and I consider myself a systematic theologian, that is, I study the Bible by themes. My studies of theology allowed me to bring to the channel very interesting short productions for believers and

atheists, who are not party members, who do not support any religion, but the Bible as a book is tremendously interesting and has prophecies as you can see in the videos of a book of stories.

We continue here with Dross. We are back at the studio in Argentina. I feel like a reporter this time. And I am very happy for Gerardo's participation. Mentioning Gerardo Blumerfield. How did you meet him? He is a brother of life. I met him when I was a child and I got into the most transgressive sites on the internet. At that time I was from the internet prehistory.

And many people in your audience, especially from my generation, will remember sites like Rotem.com, Gorgallery.com Mondomorvo and I came across the first and only Latin American style website on the internet Mondomorvo and there I met Gerardo Blummerfell

a guy who called himself Satanist who did all kinds of crazy stuff I appeared once in a very old show you must know which one, by Cristina Saralegui yes, yes a tag show, doing crazy stuff one, Cristina Saralegui, a tank show, doing crazy things, fighting with Cristina.

And I had a lot of fun, and look at the vicissitudes of life, boss, that in the end I ended up meeting him, right? And he became a very, very, very good friend, a best friend in every way, a brother of life, and we ended up working together. Because he is a horror writer of cult then good it was said between that we both love terror with madness and that he has given us everything in life we already told the cases that affected you the most now I want to tell you a case of your channel that personally left me a lot to think about for a long time and it's the case of Andrew Dawson.

Do you remember this man? Andrew Dawson, the one from the Giant in the Mountain? Exactly. And this case for me is very interesting because, just as you consider that Elias' case is real, something inside me tells me that Andrew Dawson's case is real. And for those who are not identified with the story,

Andrew Dawson is a guy who, driving in the mountains, records in the distance a figure, a silhouette. This silhouette seems to be that of a giant. It is observed how between the mountains,

as if the abominable man of the snow started walking slowly. how between the mountains, as if the abominable man of the snow, started walking slowly, but it is distinguished that it is something of at least 5 or 10 meters. No, no, it's that it's really giant. Yes, yes, he understands and it's very interesting. The interesting thing about this case is what happens later with Andrew Dawson. Andrew Dawson uploads the videos he recorded. And after this, he starts reporting that strange cars start following him.

Cars that seem to be from the government. This story takes place in the United States and Canada. And in both countries, when Andrew is moving, these patrols, these very characteristic police cars, which are the black Chargers that don't have plates, which normally use elements of the FBI or research agencies, like the CIA even,

Of course, of course.

they start following him. I think that's it's sound beautiful for me. Andrew proposes a thing and it is, go to the mountains during the night and when he goes to the mountains where he recorded this creature he finds that there are already cars of this corporation that do not identify with him they just tell him to go Yes, and there he records an interaction if I remember correctly Yes, in which they ask him to leave that place

Yes

After this he goes to his hotel and from there he records from the windows how these elements of Elias's case, deep down, for me, is an RG. And this guy, Andrew Dobson, has more or less the same thing. I mean, the story is very well done, and he's a guy who doesn't have a Cassie Bius, who never had a Cassie Bius, until we talked about him on the channel. He didn't have a Bius, he had absolutely nothing. So you ask yourself, the first thing you have to ask yourself is,

if I were him and I wanted to make a story and that people believe it, as realistic as possible, what do I have to do? And you start to take out in white everything he had to do to rent trucks, hire actors, and several trucks,

take out the registration, that they are black, that, look like the FBI. Bro, what, for 90 views? Yes. So that's what you, what at first you say, no, this is very well done. This definitely, and it has more details that make you, and besides, he interviews people, neighbors. And then I don't know how many neighbors he will have agreed with, me being a rat, thinking it's all a lie,

but everything is perfect. I mean, when you see documentaries, fan footage style, the actors are shit compared to the ones you get from this guy. A shit! And they are real neighbors and everyone talks to you with fear, people who live in the mountains, who say,

yes, here in these trees things happen and we are very used to seeing them.

Yes, just like what I told you in the Apalachian Mountains. Exactly, and the worst of all is that in the comments of Andrew Dobson, I remember, there are people from the Apalachian Mountains talking and saying, yes, yes, we are from here, we who are from here know what you are talking about, we know this perfectly, we see strange things, we have heard strange things. Since we were little, we have been told to keep going, don't get into what you are not interested in and keep going for your own good. And people who are used to that,

it is very interesting to know that even the inhabitants develop a kind of rules for when they come to see or live a situation like this. Of course, of course, if you hear your name in the forest, don't turn around, be the asshole with all the law.

Those rules are easy, be the asshole everywhere. Don't let that know that you are aware of its existence. The game is even cruel. Imagine you put yourself in that role, imagine you are in a forest at night, and you say, boss, boss, how are you not going to turn around, I mean, have the cold blood of, I don't know, go with the cell phone walking and get out of there until they make you sit on your shoulder

directly.

But the case of Andrew Dawson, in my opinion, what really impacted me is that it ends like the case of Elias. Andrew Dawson, after reporting several times this harassment by these authorities, finally begins to fall to a degree in which it seems that he is descending into madness.

Yes, it is affecting him.

Little by little his mind deteriorates until a news runs. Andrew Dawson took his life for depression and these news begin to come out that Andrew Dawson a person who until the moment had had a happy life without features in his social networks he had a whole career on YouTube, the guy uploaded videos, he uploaded that it was not nothing of terror but uploaded videos from a long time ago, uploaded videos from a long time ago I uploaded videos a long time ago, boss

happy, that

many videos, dozens of videos I'll ask you a question

he didn't give life signs again after what they said that he took his life, right?

no

I talked about him I uploaded the video and I said ok, now we're going to test you, son of a bitch I'm going to talk about you, your channel is going to go viral you're going to be able to monetize it nicely, and then we'll see if you keep pretending to be dead. He kept pretending to be dead, apparently! He didn't give me any more life signs.

It's very curious because, as everyone starts to mention that he didn't have any obvious signs of having had depression or something that indicated that he was going to take his life, except for the constant announcements or warnings that he said in which they were harassing him. He said, it's that these people are following me, I don't feel at peace, he shouted, leave me alone and recorded it. He had deliriums of persecution, clear deliriums, that is, deliriums that do not sound bad for your audience, please, because when I say that a person has delirious persecution, it's like he's a fool who thinks he's being chased. No, no, no, no. That's a syndrome that you get when you're under a lot of stress and when you're under a lot of stress. And he was clearly delirious persecution. He was, yes, suffering that. you about that, yes. I was going to tell you about that a moment ago and it's something that the audience knows. My dad was kidnapped. When my dad manages to be rescued... I'm very sorry.

Thank you very much, friend. When he manages to be rescued by the police, he is deteriorated by this malaise of the delirium of persecution. And in fact, even to relatives who did not live what he lived, you felt persecuted because you said these people are going to come back. But going back to Andrew's case, nothing is known and his girlfriend, I think his ex-girlfriend, because he had already died, finally the last statement he gives is that they know that if Andrew suffered a depression and could not stand it anymore, he went crazy because of a situation x of life and he made up this whole story

to entertain them maybe, but everything is false, he was depressed and that's why he took his life Do you believe in the words of the bride who said this statement? Of course, you can think badly, friend you are threatened Yes, you can think wrong. Friend, you are threatened. You can think that. And if it's an RG, I repeat, like with Elias, with Andrew Dawson, I take off my hat. Because first, his love for art. I mean, if this is an RG, I always think so, but if this is an RG, the guy rejected a very good monetization on YouTube, gave a lot of money, because everything that was set up,

even hiring actors, brother, hiring a truck, a fleet of trucks, fuck me, and taking away their license plate, that level of production, the time, the perfect performance, and then disappear from the face of the earth. And then not give more signs of life and that apart you have the touch, look, the salt, the tino, the emotional intelligence, to put a girl to say, no, no, no, everything was a lie, but he was depressed, as for people to think badly. Other creators, other people who make fakes, do not even reach half, half of the intelligence, elegance, subtlety, extraordinary production,

extraordinary performance that this guy has. If it's an RG, I always think that's what impresses me. If it's an RG, you have to be equally impressed. All the guys who study cinema in your audience, which are surely many, guys, grab the teacher who study cinema in your audience, which are surely many, guys, let's see, tell the teacher a slap and see this, this is a horror movie, this is cinema, and then there's this directly that has to be documented,

how well done it is, how extraordinarily well done it is. I want to believe that they are lies, but very well done, friend, extraordinarily well done, that is, points and apart in my career. Yes, and those are some of the cases that have disturbed Dross, because everyone wonders, what disturbs this guy? Yes, it is that by not believing in absolutely nothing, absolutely nothing, from time to time one finds a treasure at the end of the rainbow. Something that, of those things that make this world a more interesting place, whether fake are fake or not. It is just as impressive, it is just as impressive.

I am so impressed that a poor guy who has not had the fortune in life to receive an education, who comes from a field, all this I confirmed. A story that is buried in the manga, that requires the spherics of any Hollywood movie. That's as impressive as if it were true. Or that a guy makes a story like that and then he kills himself for real. It's just as impressive. It's interesting where you look at it.

What I want the audience to understand is that, fake or not fake, it's just as impressive, it is just as incredible, it is something unusual to the mother, to the metal. And through social networks. And through social networks and with small audiences that leave ... and with a story and an organization to show that story and some details so intelligent that you even get angry that the vast majority of people do not understand it in all its grandeur, do not know how to see it in all its splendor. It is incredible without a doubt this case and others that you play on your Dross channel, DrossRothSang,

I repeat the largest channel that exists in the entire the whole globe of the horror genre. Congratulations, it's well deserved. And I don't mind sounding like a bum right now.

No, no, no, please, of course not, of course not, Seppi.

I thank you very much. I feel really honored by your presence tonight. Thank you very much. But I want you to tell us before we say tell us what is coming for the Dross channel before saying goodbye. Well, look, I would like to dust off an old section that at a certain point started everything and it is Dross tells three horror stories. Come back. So light. Of course

yes. A lot of time has passed, there are already new stories very interesting to tell, and there they come. And the voice of the best narrator of Habla Español. Thank you very much, Efe, I appreciate it very much. And I thank you very much, friend,

for being who opens this new stage of this channel, of Credit Pastas Everywhere. You were present, basically, since the creation of this channel, of Credit Pastas Everywhere. You were basically present since the creation of this channel, you were with us in the hard moments of the channel.

I had the honor. And today you are inaugurating this resurgence of the channel.

How could I not do it otherwise? I am very happy.

It is an honor for me, a pleasure. It is something that fills us with joy, Darian, to me. Thank you very much, Darian Cefefe and your outstanding and beautiful audience. Thank you very much and a very strong hug. Thank you dear friend. We are going to leave all the social networks of Dross in the description of this video. We would very much like you to help us by commenting, I don't know, maybe an emoji of glasses, because it's your first appearance with glasses.

A hat, yes.

A hat, some glasses.

Well, glasses were sunglasses before, now without age.

You see.

To know that you made it to the end, to this point of the video. Thanks also to Gerardo for making this possible, because he is not only the producer of the channel, he is also an excellent narrator and you noticed it in his participation. I am filled with joy to have you both inaugurating this section. I recommend you to be aware of your work. But well, friend, without more, thank you very much. Thank you all guys for following this channel. See you in the next podcast and I leave you with the advance of the next guest. podcast with him. Then this person unfortunately lost his life and you loved him so much that you decided to dig up his body, exhume his remains and that you slept with his corpse, that you did not

want to let him go for a reason. Can you tell us a little bit of the story if it is true want to let him go for a reason. Can you tell us a little bit of the story if it is true and who was this person?