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Namaskar, my name is Prashnikumar and my cast is Podcast. It is said that journalism is the fourth pillar of democracy, but nowadays anyone can fall on this pillar. To talk about the current state of the media, our podcast has a very big TV anchor from BND News, Gullu Dalal.
I would like to stop you here, there is a big news coming.
What big news?
What big news? It's time. It's time for something. For what? It's time for my medicine. So, bring it. So, Gullu ji, you are a big journalist and anchor of TV Jagat.
We want to know from you what was your first job as a journalist? When I came here after learning journalism, I thought I would do some revolution. And I did a sting operation and exposed the truth.
You did a sting operation?
Yes.
Whose cover did you expose?
I exposed the editor-in-chief of my own channel.
Okay, why?
He was having a sexual relationship with someone.
Who was he having a relationship with?
With me.
What do you mean by you?
We used to sleep together every day. I caught hold of him one day. I said, man, we I have to make a video. I made a video of him doing this in front of the mirror. And I showed it to my wife.
You showed the video to your wife?
She should know or not that her boyfriend is sleeping with her husband. This is not cheating.
That man was cheating.
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Get started freeSo he broke up with her.
And then what?
His heart broke, so he drank alcohol every day, went into depression.
Then what did I do? I sat on his chair and started anchoring. And in this way you? Became an anchor. So this is how you got here. Yes. So,
Sting operations reminded me that many years ago you were also caught in a sting operation on camera. You were growing 100 crores. Actually, what was there that we went there undercover agent. Okay. To find out this, we heard that they buy journalists.
So you went to find out.
Whether they buy or not, what rate do they give, I said 100 crores. 100 crores?
They gave you.
They gave.
So you exposed this.
Exposed, not yet done, I just found out if it is a real note or not.
Okay.
So I bought a house, got married, had children. It took time. I found out that it was real. Then I see that every month they are still sending money.
Okay.
Yes.
So you have exposed this too.
Not yet.
We are doing it. The process is going on.
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Get started freeThe process is going on. Now what is it that we have also been pressurized, we have taken so much money that we will have to tell their news. pressure How did you manage to save 500 crores? I have saved 500 crores every month. So, until I get 100 crores back, I won't be able to return the money. I will expose them then. So, I am waiting for the 100 crores to come back.
Then I will expose them. And till then, your process is going on. See, we have proved that a journalist doesn't need to be be journalists in today's time. This is the value of a journalist.
Gullu ji, you are also accused of spreading fake news.
Where? We don't spread any fake news. What news have you spread?
You said that there is a chip in the 2000 note.
Now see, there is news in the market that a 2000 note is coming. Now, if a note is being sold for 2000, then it will look expensive. So, there must be a chip. There must be no spit in the new note. So, we took our creative liberty and told what is there.
So, because of your creative liberty, this became a fake news.
You should have checked its fact. See, I checked the facts. I checked the facts and got to know that there is a chip in the 2000 note. So, I checked the facts. The amount is correct.
Okay.
So, it turned out to be correct. What was the credible source of that news? The credible source is a huge platform in America, Whatsapp. There is a group on that, which I am a part of.
There was a news in that group.
And I checked the DP of the person who sent it.
So there was a picture of a child in it. Now a child is like God. And we cannot question God, sir. But you didn't think about verifying even once?
I did. Our way of checkinging is to first tell the news. The public will tell if it's true or false.
How does the public know?
If the public has faith in the true news, then it's news. If you don't have faith, you're an atheist, then you won't even believe your father.
What is this?
And out of 10, 3 news comes out to be true. Then where do you live then? When we are apologizing, only then you feel like observing.
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Get started freeI am just asking what is the need to take creative liberty?
Brother, the news will get boring. We have studied so much, so we will write something extra. Otherwise, father has given us money just like that. News has come that a boy got married to a girl.
Now we write that a boy from a particular religion eloped with a girl from a different religion.
So you used creative liberty here.
Yes, we questioned the news. That this can't be possible. Like you see Taj Mahal and think it's a Taj Mahal. We question if this is a temple. Don't you think that because of your creative liberty,
the society will get bad results?
Yes, it will.
So?
You can't work worrying about the results. If Wright Brothers had thought before making the airplane that Indigo will cancel the flight, then they would have made the airplane. If Newton had thought before making gravity that Shahrukh Khan will push Shilpa Shetty
from the building, would he have made gravity? If Graham Bell had thought before making bell that boys will run away by ringing the bell, would he have made bell?
Mr. Gullu, you are such a big TV anchor of our country, so tell our viewers how a breaking news reaches them.
Tell from the beginning.
Yes, from scratch.
So we reach the office, we are drinking tea, smoking cigarettes and flirting with Anjana.
Anjana, don't tell all this sir.
We are flirting with an intern and then he comes to the studio. I throw a cigarette and go to the studio. Then from here, the peon says, pick up the cigarette and put it in the dustbin.
Okay.
So, I pick it up and put it in the dustbin.
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Get started freeTell me the process.
I reach the studio. What are you making me do? I touch his ear.
What is it?
Big news is coming. Big news. How big? Such a big news is Big news. How big? Yes, friends, pay attention. I am getting a big news.
I haven't got any news yet. So I am saying more. You will get to hear such a big news today. Now the news has come.
That there is an incident in Gurgaon. An incident has occurred
at the Gurgaon-spit place. If you go 25 km from Parliament. If you go by the Dwarka Express, if you go by the MBS Express, then there is a traffic jam. What's the news?
Now he told me the news. Rahul, who is present at the time, is saying that in Gurgaon, two toffees were found in one wrapper. Yes! Two toffees!
How?
I mean, they were stuck together They were stuck together Stuck, stuck, stuck, stuck Like two friends get stuck on the same bed
Similarly
The toffee was stuck
The opponent has to answer The opponent can't run Which kid is Rahul? Can we get an interview with him? Oh, he ate the toffee. Now, sir, TRP has arrived.
So, we'll take a break here.
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This is how the process is.
I want to stop you here. I am getting a big news. How are you stopping me? There is a new offer for students on exam preparation website test book. Our co-worker Rahul is sitting on the test book website. Tell me Rahulji, what is the offer?
200 plus exams in 299 rupees. SSC Railway Bank. Rahul is sitting on the test book website. Tell me Rahul ji, what is the offer? 200 plus exams in 299 rupees. SSC Railway Banking Teaching etc. Wow man. Rahul, when is the offer?
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Get started free31st December. So, we have to do it soon.
You are doing brand promotion in my show.
Mute him here. There is a big news in SSC CPO. AIR 1, 2, 3 All three are test book students Where should I put the link? In the description
Turn on the audio
I was saying that whenever you...
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You are accused of not asking questions to the ruling party but only only the opposition.
If you ask the government about the work it is doing, won't it get disturbed? Will it get disturbed in the middle of work? The opposition is sitting free, so we will ask them the same question. Why are you free? Why are you so useless? Why are you a workaholic? How did the opposition become a workaholic, sir? Look, the opposition has always been a workaholic. Okay. The government is working, you have made so many school colleges.
But what is your ego that until the people do not take us in the government, we will not work. Until we take an oath, we will not run the government. Then why do you have sex without marriage? I want to ask the leader of the opposition that why do you have sex without marriage
if you cannot run the government without choosing? What is this? Indigo had such a big shortage of pilots here. What did the opposition do? They should have sent Sachin Pilot. He would have flown it. What did Vipaksh do? He could have sent Sachin the pilot. He could have flown him.
What kind of a pilot is he?
What nonsense is this? What will Vipaksh do in this?
Vipaksh won't do anything. Sonu Sood could have done something. Sonu Sood, who was not giving work to the unemployed, was not giving work to the rich, who really have work. They have to do some work. This is hypocrisy. This is completely hypocrisy.
Mr. Gullu, I want to tell you something.
Hmm. Sit. Hmm.
A few days ago, you interviewed your favorite politician and it was clear that he is completely
scripted.
No, there was no script in it. It was all verbal. He just had a rehearsal for a week.
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Get started freeHmm.
I said, why was there no script in this?
But you knew the questions, right?
Yes, so I thought about it. I know the questions, they know them too. So I did so many papers that I can't be morally wrong. So your inner soul awakened. Yes, I went and shocked them. I asked the third question first and the first one on the second number.
You changed the sequence.
I was so angry.
And you didn't ask him any important question?
I did ask him the most important question. That, sir, will there be mustard oil or normal massage oil?
And what was his answer?
His answer was, there will be no oil today.
He kept saying all this to you, and I saw that you didn't even stop him once.
I stopped him?
When did you stop him?
When he asked me to ask you something else, I said, No, thank you.
That's it.
My attitude. Brave journalism. So this was a very non-scripted interview.
It was an honest interview, sir. Honest interview.
I feel like I've heard this somewhere.
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Get started freeNo, sir.
Your colleague used to be a colleague, Harish Kumar, used to be a journalist. He started his career with you. You both used to work on the same channel. Today, he is an independent journalist on a small YouTube channel, while you have become the editor-in-chief of such a big channel. How did this happen?
Because of his bad habits. Now, what he is doing, he has started being a journalist. Okay. Exp issues like poverty, inflation, etc. which do not matter to the public. Now I know the public's nerves. Should I raise issues which matter to the public?
Like? Hindu-Muslim, who is a traitor? Pakistan.
These were important issues.
These were important issues. He had a negative outlook on things. I had a positive outlook.
Please explain.
Now, he is making mistakes everywhere. Now, the historic tariff that was imposed on India, he is making a mistake that the economy will go bad. He is spreading negativity among the people. What I said is that the United States started beating India out of fear.
It became a positive outlook. It has become very positive. that America started beating India out of fear.
It was a positive outlook.
It was very positive.
Now when 1000 AQI passed in Delhi, they started saying that they will die. I said India became number one in the black air. Positive. Students' protectionist made a video that India's future is in danger. positive students can put us through the video banana in the bar of the publishing I'm a man a cop police then you buy a
opera first Mary Lathi party parade is silly up a rope like that he have sir car came mouthpiece banger tosser maybe better than a thumb hard to come maybe coming in a cult of the criticise I used to criticize him, but what happened was that I started getting tensed. Now I am tensed all day. I don't feel like living in India. I don't feel safe in India.
I feel like returning the award. Once I heard positive news, I got peace of mind. You should also defend the government once. You will get break your mind.
India has fallen below the press freedom index due to such actions. Is not press free in India?
You want press free? If he is taking 10 rupees per shirt, then give him 15. You should be ashamed of being a poor man. Can't you wear a t-shirt without a press? You should be ashamed of yourself. You are a poor man. You should be ashamed of yourself. You can't wear a T-shirt without a press.
I am not talking about the press. I am talking about the media. Media is not free in our country.
Media is free. How? Earlier there was so much pressure that you should not take money from that leader. You are free now. You can take money from anyone. Earlier there was pressure that you have to do reporting.
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Get started freeNow you are free. You can run VFX. You can give any time. I just want to know from you that why don't you ask the government questions? I will ask the government questions. Wait for me.
Right now? On the call?
I will ask the government right now.
Oh, that's great.
Yes, where is my payment? He gets 15 crores, I get only 10 crores. What is 10 crores in today's times of inflation? Why will we promote for free? I am not Ravi Ishqbal.
If I don't get my money today, I am telling you, I will go and do journalism. I will do a lot of rubbish on prime time. the call is coming, tell him to pick up. That's why I said pick up. You asked a tough question. Satpak has come, he is saying send the invoice. Gullu ji, you also run a debate show, I saw.
So I want to know how a debate show works, what is its process and how do you choose this topic?
Now see, the trending topic that is going on like the fiscal rate, reverse repo rate, economic crisis, fundamental right to freedom so we will have an important debate on Hindu-Muslim that day.
Okay. Yes.
So, do you not have any other topic other than Hindu-Muslim?
Yes, there is. There is a topic on Christians as well. Should Hindus celebrate Christmas? Now, in this debate, we call Maulana first. What is Maulana's role in this debate? It is his role, Sir. He is in every debate of mine.
Without him, the debate does not start. Maulana is auspicious for our debate. Maulana only does the Sri Ganesh of our debate, Sir. And who are the experts in your show? There is a side and an opponent. And there is an expert, an expert actor.
What is an expert actor?
Sir, he can be any expert. He can be the army chief of Pakistan. He can be the spy of India.
And I see that you have an earpiece in your ear.
Yes, I do.
Do you get any instructions on that? There is a producer who gives directions. What kind of directions? To put more fire in the debate. Because we have a Buddhist monk there, who has attained salvation. Until his BP increases, until he gets a heart is a lot of abuse in your debate show.
So it's the parliament's language, sir.
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The language used in the parliament, we do the same. Now there is a lot of bullshit going on in the parliament.
So we will also speak there, sir. I checked the topics of your last 100 debates and saw that you have not debated on a single proper topic.
I have.
Which one?
I have debated on unemployment and why is unemployment increasing in Pakistan. I have debated on economic development and why is Pakistan in need of loans. I have raised issues of youth and why are Nepal's youth not getting employment. And India? India is not getting employment. India is not getting employment.
India is not getting employment. India is not getting employment. that Pakistan is having to ask for a loan. I raised issues of youth.
Why are Nepal's youth not getting employment?
And India?
Like,
the pride of the country.
1 million Indians left the country. And will do patriotism in foreign facilities.
What debate will be done on this? Everyone will praise.
That's right. Is there anyone else?
In the top 10, 50 cities of India are under the influence of pollution.
What will be the debate on this?
It's a matter of pride. Is there anything else? India is above Sri Lanka in the world map.
What will be the debate on this?
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Get started freeWhat debate will be there on this? Now see this story,, Indian youth left America, and the youth are behind. 19 minutes and 43 seconds video was released.
That is a 19 minutes and 34 seconds video.
Okay, you checked the facts. One minute, how do you know this? No, I told this for the purpose of general knowledge.
Such videos are quite viral these days.
Like? Like there was a video where two friends were doing something wrong by drinking. How much time is left in the podcast? Shall we go for a drink after this?
I have heard you saying many times about sutras. Who are these sutras?
The first sutra that first source is my father. My father tells me in the news that India has left Brahmos in Turkey. Now this news is not anywhere. This is with him. One source is my Paanwala.
What news did Paanwala tell you?
Google map is not trustworthy.
And?
And one of my sources is Subha ka Sapna. Because Subha ka Sapna is not a lie, sir. I got a news in that that India's son did a bad deal. I saw it and it was true.
I see that people troll you a lot on social media. How do you deal with this?
See, we don't do any such trolling.
Did you check your social media?
I just posted a photo of the podcast today. All the comments are positive. Read it. See how positive the comments are. I will cool it down in 3 minutes. Now see below this.
I will remove the water. These are all good comments. These are good comments, right? Yes, they are. Look at this. Where have you gone, you idiot? How will you deal with these trolls? Look, sir, I'm a journalist and I understand
criticism and I take it well. Now I'll do this. You know what, sir? An elephant walks ahead and dogs bark behind it.
That's right. You know sir, an elephant walks ahead, but dogs bark behind it.
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What happened to you in the end? Actually, I got a stone in the end. Mr. Gullu, what advice do you have for those who want to enter journalism? Look, journalism is a difficult job. If you want to study it, then do it from my institute. I will get you a degree for just 10 lakhs.
And you will get a job for 10,000 in the end. Both the parties come for placement. Look, the growth will depend on you, what is your oil. If someone accuses you of corruption, you should tell him, that here honesty is the way,
or else go home and sleep. respect man. There were three people they were talk like this. Shut up. Okay. Sir, Gullu ji, do you have anything to say? India is asking, why are there not 2 million subscribers? This is in their DNA, not to subscribe. This is not black and white, sir. This has to be decoded. Why are there not 2 million subscribers?
Okay.
Does anyone have the guts to become a member of this channel? Is there anyone who will become a member? This is where honesty is at way to be honest Otherwise this This scoundrel will go home and sleep This scoundrel will go home and sleep
Let's go and sleep
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