Fantástico: 'É mais importante do que eu, não vou parar', diz Felca em entrevista exclusiva
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Good evening. The case of Ítalo Santos was just one of the examples mentioned in the video about the adulteration of the felon that led to the public debate in Brazil this week. Fantástico talked to the young 27-year-old communicator about the alert that shook society,
especially when showing how common images of children and teenagers reach pedophilia networks.
How old are you?
I'm 14.
Two steps, two clicks, two taps on the screen of the cell phone and that's it.
Anyone can access pedophilia content on the internet like this. This week, Brazilian society was shaken by a young man's alert. It's a very delicate subject, a subject that causes repulsion,
but it has to be discussed.
Hello!
Felca!
Welcome!
Estevam, nice to meet you. You can come in.
The Paranaense Felipe Bressane Imperiera, or Felca, moved to São Paulo seven months ago. To have a little time of this madness Felca moved to São Paulo seven months ago. I'm living this crazy life for a while. It's great to be able to show my little house. I like to play chess.
I have some toys that I like.
Felca produces humorous videos, opinions and complaints.
He often addresses issues of mental health.
I'd like to thank the Brazilian Association of Psychiatry. This is an honor, I didn't even take it out of the plastic. The title of National Partner of Mental Health. There are some of my books here that I leave...
There's philosophy, psychology, literature classics.
A comic by Batman. These are some fan gifts we give here.
I got a beautiful Bible.
Look at this. Wow!
This is a Minion. Look at this. It was a family gift. There's something I really like, which are consoles, man. Video games. You started your career with games, right? I started, but my dad said, is I stopped. When I look back, I thank. Because if today the exhibition is difficult, it causes damage, imagine when I was a child. We'll start a little lighter, and then we'll go to the bottom until I start reporting crimes.
Felca dived into the theme of the children's exhibition on the internet for about a year, and published the video Adultizaçãoo on August 6. One of the targets was the influencer Italo Santos. I spent the whole day with a certain distress all day. When it was 1am, I got up the courage and pressed the button.
And after that, everything changed. When I woke up, there were about 4 million views. This number skyrocketed and the video reached millions of people all over Brazil.
Among them, Cristiane, mother and teacher.
A mother of a friend of my son approached me and it was a shock. It shocked me, it disgusted me, it made me sad.
So far, the video has been watched more than 44 million times.
I imagined it would have a high repercussion, because it's a very sensitive subject, but this level of reach is impossible.
When I went to teach on Monday, that was the subject. And I have my social network open. When I want to show an activity to encourage other teachers, I filmed with my son. But I had no idea of all this mess. I won't do it anymore because I need to protect him. It's my job to with my son. But I had no idea about all this mess.
I won't do it anymore because I need to protect him. It's my job to protect my son.
Because it's your responsibility. Your son can't choose.
Exactly.
And he doesn't have that maturity.
What are you calling adultization?
Adultization is when you deprive the child of the free play and insert it in the adult world.
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Get started freeBasically depriving the child of the free play and inserts it in the world of adults. Basically deprives the child of having a childhood.
What's at stake here?
What's at stake is that she can't identify herself. The consequence of this is a society,
in 10, 20 years, that we will have adults that are not themselves.
It's a bomb.
It's a bomb.
Childhood is something reasonably recent.
There are 400, 500 years of childhood concept.
Of childhood concept. And we started to understand that we need to protect the brain of these children who are in full development. And it changes completely when we think about this adulting
in social networks in times of internet.
You will take a person who still has no cognitive, emotional maturity to a universe that requires it. This maturity, right? It requires reflection. When you adopt a child, it's as if you don't really like the child. You have a certain anger of childhood. In recent years, the threats to childhood in the digital environment
were a recurring theme in Fantastico's reports. It's as if the room became a stage with all the spotlights on the victim. We can't put this on TV.
It's too brutal.
Excessive use of screens and social media can lead to situations
that this young brain is not prepared for.
There are criminals looking for material to distort, manipulate and spread in the underworld of pedophilia. Our team discovered the market of criminal lives,
often negotiated by the victim's own family.
Social networks have algorithms that indicate content according to the behavior of each user. So, for example, if you like a photo of a tourist destination, you will receive many other travel content. In Felca's video, he shows how this logic can benefit pedophilia on Instagram, by spreading images that sexualize minors. He called it Algorithm P.
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Get started freeThe algorithm knows that these videos exist, knows that there are consumers, and unites these two things. But, is there a way to fight this?
Without a doubt. There are technologies today for age verification. These are technologies that did not exist 10, 15 years ago, and today they already exist. The P algorithm that Felper describes is a didacticactic tool he uses to describe a concept of systemic failure. An effect that is to violate fundamental rights
and put the security of users of the platform itself. Meta, the owner of Instagram, said there are strict rules against child sexualization. The company says it removes these contents as soon as they are identified and that it recently announced new measures to make it difficult for adults with potentially suspicious behavior to find accounts that predominantly contented with children.
The repercussions of the video also took over the debates in Brasília.
My concern was this, to raise awareness. I wanted to bring this issue to light. The agenda is in Congress, and there are MPs from the left and the right
supporting the regulation of social media.
It is very appropriate for to have a public hearing, to have a discussion about the PL 2628. The children are crying for protection. They can't take it anymore.
The Project 2628, by Senator Alessandro Vieira, from the MDB, has already been approved in the Senate and is ready to be voted on in the House.
They have the tools,
so they know perfectly well if it's a child or an adult who is using the tool. They know perfectly well what content is circulating, but they only care about extracting data and the performance of that. They don't care about child and adolescent protection. The President of the House, Hugo Mota, said he will consider the urgency of the P.L. vote
under the report of the deputy Jadiel Alencar of the Republicans. The bill 2628 2022 seeks a legal framework, bringing a clear regulation, bringing the good international practices that already work very well outside Brazil for our legislation. Among the mechanisms provided in the bill are the requirement to verify the actual age, the obligation for platforms to offer effective parental controls and the immediate withdrawal of content of abuse
or exploitation of children and adolescents.
This is a super-partisan agenda, it's an agenda of Brazil,
where all families have interests.
After the video, Felca received many messages.
Felca, congratulations for your video of adultization. As a survivor of sexual violence, I am very happy to see you talking about this agenda.
We invite three mothers and two parents who are concerned about the use of social media, which establish some level of restriction in the use for their children. Thank you for being here.
How was this week for you?
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Get started freeI already had this concern before, but I think that with this, and with the technical explanation of how they reach this audience, it gave me a little more scare.
I ran there to see if there was any comment, link in bio, as Felca said. When I saw the video that Felca posted, a child doing gymnastics, and that video full of... Wow, he got me somehow.
It caught my attention the amount of criminals
there asking for an image to exchange.
How many photos have we already posted with the oldest of the gymnastics, or filmed? So what? But who is quiet here? We've posted these pictures with the oldest kid in the gym. Or we've filmed them. So what? But who's quiet here?
In our generation, it was the album of photos inside the house. Today, it's the album of photos all over the world.
What chance do we have to manage this without a law?
Felca commented on the motivation behind the viral video.
I knew people from my social life who were sexually abused in their childhood. motivation behind the viral video. I think that's the difference. What bothered you the most in your research? What was the worst thing you saw? I think what bothered me the most was to see that there are families involved. Who should take care of and protect them? It makes you want to cry. To imagine what this child's head is like.
What it will develop in this environment. I was shocked. Felca, you were threatened. I was shocked, man.
Felca, you were threatened.
I suffered some death threats. People in my neighborhood suffered death threats. I'm going to find you on the street and I'm going to kill you.
You're going to die.
The threats are being investigated by the São Paulo police.
Do these messages shock you?
No. Honestly, no. I'm cautious, but I'm doing something more important than myself. I'm sorry. I can't stop.
Likes and followers are composed almost entirely of pedophiles.
Felca's full interview is on the Fantastico podcast. Felca's full interview is on the Fantastico podcast. Just access this QR code here on the screen.
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