First Podcast of Taliban 2

First Podcast of Taliban 2.O Anas Haqqani | Taliban | Afghanistan | Cricket | Ronaldo। Virat Kohli

Shubhankar Mishra

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This is not just a name. This is Anas Haqqani. They were the people who were with the previous government. What is happening with them in Afghanistan? 5 lakh people. The old government, the UAE, they used to work with us. Four of your brothers died in your family.

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You lost four brothers in American attacks.

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Don't you want to take revenge? Many Sikh brothers left us, who were born here.

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Sir, we will go to our homes, don't worry.

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You are saying that they can come and live in peace. He has a lot of land in our government. We'll give it back to him. Was it more difficult to fight Russia? To talk to America in Doha? Or to increase the Afghanistan cricket team in the last three years?

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Which was more difficult?

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That's a difficult question. How are you talking to India? And how do you see Modi's government? When India came to the diplomatic level, the MBCB opened, India played a very good role. The person you were exchanged with in Australia, later that person himself returned to Afghanistan. And someone told me that this grave is here in Afghanistan. Is this true?

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Yes, it is true. His name is Timothy Vickstam. You had ordered Ronaldo's jersey without asking him. We were in a hurry during the negotiation time. Finally, I said that I have an important message for your leadership. The head of the delegation was in the chair like this. He took the paper in his hand and said, tell me what happened?

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I said that Manchester United, change the coach. Because he is very weak. He spoiled Ronaldo. The next meeting, he took a t-shirt of Ronaldo's for the upcoming meeting. I asked him, did you tell Ronaldo who to give this t-shirt to? He said, no, we didn't tell him.

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If he finds out, he might get scared. You were in Uzbekistan or somewhere else. Did you bring satellites from inside the bunker to watch the match? We had drones from above and we place for the people to hide. We left India and defeated everyone. We defeated everyone in India, but Rohit Sharma left with us.

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We forced him to leave Kabul. If he had left, it wouldn't have been so difficult.

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Did you feel the shock of Maxwell?

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I did. But he was very far from us.

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India was far from us.

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There was an incident in cricket history, not a mistake. Did Rohit Sharma Virat Kohli do the right thing by retiring? I would suggest that Virat Kohli should try for 50 years to not retire and stay in his fitness.

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When you defeated Pakistan, did you like it?

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It was a very good day. I started trusting that day. What are the three things you will do in Afghanistan in the future? The most important thing is our education. Is it not difficult to make money? Because your trade is bad.

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Was it difficult to make a government after the war?

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Or to come to the government and run the government? It was easy to become a government.

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I became one. But to move forward is very difficult. I will tell someone in India that you, Anas Sakkani, used to watch our cricket videos.

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Maybe no one will believe it at first glance.

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The good point with you was that you used to comment on the cricket show of Afghanistan very well. We were happy with your arrival and still welcome you. of the world. You will get a lot of personality in one personality. It will be very difficult for me to ask questions to him because you can ask him a lot in all three fields. But if I give a brief introduction, then his introduction is that he comes from a family who fought against Russia, who also removed the US, then took part in the peace talks,

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and today, the way Afghanistan is moving forward, he is also playing an important role in that. Mr. Anas Hakkqani, welcome. Thank you very much. Welcome to Afghanistan.

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Thank you so much. Have you ever been to India?

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No, I have not been to India yet. But you have been on TV a lot. Yes, I have been on TV a lot. I have seen India on TV and in books as well. But I have not been books and in real life. When I was coming to Afghanistan, many people told me to be careful.

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Now I am interviewing the leader whose father started the Haqqani Network. You were in the Taliban, you were announced to be hanged twice. Should I be afraid of you? This is very relevant to you. You have seen Afghanistan. How many times have you been here in the past two days?

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And the real situation here, the incidents that took place on the ground, when people come here like you, they understand the real situation. And the things that are in the media and outside our country and their mentality and their attitude. Since the time of the war, the propaganda and propaganda

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that the people of our country brought in the war, the virus is still there. But when people come like you, they understand what the real situation. Do you think I am a threat to you?

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Do you like Afghanistan and comment on the real situation? My fear ended when you told me that you watched our cricket videos. And you watched all our videos. And you watched all of our videos. Yes, that's how it is. Because one thing is, we are such people that our life, our birth, our youth, from the first day of our youth, the situation, the fights, the fights,

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have passed in this passed through time. Because of this, the impact of that time has a lot of impact on people. This thing comes on a natural and channels come to our country. But what we have inside us, is not what I have inside me. Our elders, you can see them here, they don't try to do marketing or social media for themselves. But like you, many people come to the show.

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The good point was that you used to give a lot of good comments on the cricket show. We are very interested in that. Because they do positive work for our people. So we are happy to see you and welcome you. I have an interesting question in my mind. Was it more difficult to fight against Russia, to talk to America in Doha,

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or to make the Afghanistan cricket team bigger in the last three years? What was more difficult? This is a very important question. And there is a need for a detailed answer on every side. When I was in Russia, I was younger than my late father, Jalaluddin Haqqani, our second elder, he fought for his country and his beliefs and for the freedom of his country.

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So, in the same 20 years, the American and NATO countries came to Afghanistan and took it under their control. Maybe like other people in your country, the young and old, the things that come naturally in life, they do education, sports, and other things. We also had a desire for our sub-country people,

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and we were very much in need of it. But what came upon us was a guarantee of compulsion and it was very hard. And this was our right for our freedom, for our religion. We fought with very good people and made sacrifices. We saw a lot of martyrs and a lot of losses. Then, in the end, the question you asked, the diplomacy in Doha, Russia, America, and cricket,

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there is a difference in everything. And the responsibility and duty on a person can be different in everything. During the war, for example, we had a the US for our country's freedom and our religion. But our duty and responsibility was less in front of the people. The duty of the war was to work for freedom, so that responsibility was less. But when you come to the government, or you do diplomacy for your country, for the sake of freedom, you do diplomacy and negotiation,

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then you get a lot of burden and reward. So, during the time of government and during the time of negotiation, the relationship of the fight was also tough, but our people got used to it. And that was a little bit more difficult because people come to you with a lot of difficulties. And about cricket, we like it this way, we play it, we do this, we do that. But for you, it's enough that in three and a half years, four years,

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how far has the team of Afghanistan reached? The energy and talent of the youth has come to its place and it has become a confidence in itself. So, good management, good organization, good understanding with each other is the result of this. And our leadership, our economy, has a lot of role in it. I was talking to the cricket board, Mr. Naseem, and he was saying that when the result of our leadership. I remember the role of cricket board. I was talking to Mr. Naseeb about the cricket board.

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He was telling me that when the Taliban government came, they told me not to put up a sign. To keep the good players. In Pakistan, the sign is very popular. The players are recommended. So, were you so interested in cricket that you said,

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keep the good players?

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Cricket is now a part of our government. It's an institution. One of the things about our government is that our elders are serious people. They are the ones who cause harm to other countries. You saw in Afghanistan, they used to coming to visit and to make inquiries. Our elders are very allergic to this.

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And no one is allowed to do this, because you have met the officials of the Cricket Board. We have been asked to make inquiries to other elders, like the minister and others, to make ministers to recommend a young man for the position. We have given the authority to the institution to follow its principles. We have seen how a young man is in the first class and in the second level.

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Then we have given him the authority to work step by step. We have recommended him to the top. There has been no such thing so far. We have tried to improve it, but nothing has worked. Cricket is doing well because of this. If you mention Pakistan cricket, I have been following it for a long time. Even during the war, because people in Afghanistan are connected to cricket, the negative things that are happening, they have ruined the Acha Pliyar.

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The social media has created a legend. It's like a Babur Azam, Acha Pliyar, who is like a different Sachin in this era. He has created a history, but he has ruined the media and of problems for his own people. So, this is a lesson for us. We also tell our people to be careful about these things.

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And the government also does not allow these things. One person comes on the media and criticizes another person based on his own wishes. So, this is a good thing. This is a good thing. We are happy with it and able to see this. Someone told me that when you were fighting in the war, you were in Uzbekistan or somewhere else. Did you bring satellites from the bunker to India to watch the match? That is true. 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, before I was in jail.

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Because in those days, we had a lot of drones, bombs, and we had an attack on us.

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Did you ever get attacked?

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It was close. My family members were killed killed. My wife and children have been killed. Many people have died in this way. Many people have died in this way. Yes, the wounds are still not healed. Yes, the wounds are still not healed. Because the chemical weapons were used.

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Because the chemical weapons were used. Because the chemical weapons were used. In this way, our life is like a cow. In this way, our life is like a cow. Everyone is related to sports and scores. But in this case, it is a personal thing.

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For example, three months of football, three months of volleyball, three months of cricket. In these days, we have a little connection with the European Championships League. We had set up a news TV in a hidden place. We had drones and we tried to hide in a place where no one would notice us. So that no one would live here living here and could be exposed. In such difficult circumstances, we did not leave the natural conditions of the world.

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Even when I was in jail, there were also some places for prisoners. Sometimes we used to meet at the sports venue. In 2019, the World Cup was going on. I was there in November 2019. Before that, I used to ask the soldiers what was going on. They used to say, there is a team match going on. Someone told me that you are a big fan of Ronaldo. You had ordered a jersey for Ronaldo without asking him.

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It was a very interesting story. Is it true? This happened once during the negotiation time. We were in Doha. In November 2019, we were in Riyadh. In 2020 and 2021, when we won Kabul. At that time, our diplomacy was our duty

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and negotiations were carried out by our people. So, different delegations used to come, sometimes from Europe, sometimes from the region. And once, in those days, Ronaldo was in the United Kingdom when Ronaldo was in the United Kingdom. He went to Manchester from the Italian club, Juventus.

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I did this work on a conscious level. The world still thinks that people are only fight and use guns. They don't have a relationship with natural life and things. A delegation from the UK came during the negotiation time. When the diplomatic talks ended, I told them that I have an important message for your leadership. The head of the delegation was sitting in a chair. He took a piece of paper and asked me to say something.

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I said that we have a request from your leadership to change Manchester United's coach. Because he is very weak and he has spoiled Ronaldo. He laughed a lot. He said that the Taliban, Portugal, Manchester and Ronaldo, I have done this work with great difficulty,

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so that the world knows about it. So, he took this point. In the next meeting, he took a t-shirt of Ronaldo, and it was number 7, and he also took his autograph. So, I asked him, did you tell Ronaldoonaldo who you were giving the t-shirt to? He said, no, it was Corona and he was in the hospital.

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I didn't tell him. If he finds out, he might get scared. So, in history, one of our... I will tell someone here that you, Anas Sakkari, watch cricket videos in India. He was more familiar with cricket than us. And that's why this interview was made.

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Because you used to watch our cricket videos. So, maybe no one would believe it at first glance. But now, some important questions about Afghanistan. Afghanistan, are you tired of war? This is the thing about war and the fight happened. In our belief, you should not wish for a problem. When it comes, stand strong and fight against it. It is a natural thing that for almost 50 years, since the time of Russia,

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the NATO, the US, and the other governments that came in between, there was no peace and security system. So people have become used to fighting. They are used to facing difficulties, enduring them, being patient, seeing the martyrs, the wounded, the prisoners, and migrating, etc. We are very close to that time.

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It has been four years since we saw peace in Afghanistan. You saw it in Kabul, you may not have seen it in other provinces. This peace came after 45 years. People are still mentally affected by it. But our elders did't have the desire to fight. The meaning of fight is loss, the meaning of fight is desolation, difficulties and sacrifices. When they came, they became our compulsion.

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And our desire is that the people of Afghanistan, the country of Afghanistan, should not face such difficulties in fighting. And this is my prayer. I am serving my elders and our leadership. They have done a lot to end the war. You may have heard that for the first time in the history of Afghanistan,

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in the region and in the world, the Afghans and the Mafia did not have anything to do with Afghanistan. It was done from the ideological point of view, not even from a political point of view. So, the president of the old government, Karzai, etc. are all here. 5 lakh people of the old government work with us. So, these are the steps that we took.

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I want to ask you something. The previous government was a US-supported government. There was a difference between the Taliban and the US-supported government. They were considering each other enemies. Now, you have got power. Those people who were with the previous government,

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who were your enemies, who were the Prime Minister or Deputy Prime Minister, government officials, or who were in the armed forces, what is happening to them in Afghanistan? It is not good for me to say this, but people say that we were one side, and we exaggerated, or in Arabic, we were too much, and we can exaggerate, or in Arabic, we can make it more comprehensive and we can praise ourselves like this.

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My request is that if you have a day or night in Afghanistan and you have a little intention, you can see him in Kabul. There are many. There is a big minister, deputy minister, President Karzai Sahib is also here, Dr. Abdullah is also with you, he is also in India. He was a great man. So, now, Alhamdulillah, in the name of common good,

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our Ameer, respected Sheikh, The agreement that was signed in February 2020, at the same time, our Ameer announced that whatever is common in 20 years, and what is Afghani between you, after that, it's their turn. Don't you feel like taking revenge? Like, your family lost four brothers. There are many other people in your family.

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I'm sure there are many others.

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So, how did you calm their anger?

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That you don't want to take revenge, forgive them.

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Actually, we are still alive, but the reality of this situation is still unknown. But in the future, in history, we have made a history. Our elders have made a history in this. Because this is a very difficult thing. You have to bear your pain, your wounds, your difficulties, etc. But if your mind is strong, if your intention is strong, you work for the country, for the people, for the religion. So, in this, you have to put your personal pain, wounds, and sorrows on it.

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To fight a big battle. Because the biggest difficulty in Afghanistan in history was that one government, especially the changes that took place in the last 50, 60, 70 years. If one of them was successful, then the other had to take revenge. This was a bad experience. And that was according to political theory. But our Islamic building, our Jubzul,

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that was according to religious and religious beliefs. We did this work, and Allah gave us the opportunity to do so. Not only that, the sacrifices you mentioned are a reality. We have done a lot of things. There are many people like this. But the people who brought the real problems were the people of Europe, America, and NATO. They brought them here and they created a war was the people of Afghanistan. They brought the people of Afghanistan here and created a war between them. When the real cause of the war, the cause of the war, the cause of the oppression,

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was removed from Afghanistan, then there was no need for us to put our hands on each other's necks and take revenge. Because there is more hostility than this. As per our beliefs, the Air ordered and we all agreed to it. All the government did a good job of obeying him. There was no official issue that a person would cause a problem.

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If two people worked on an individual level, where would the government go? The government made a special team for this, a committee, a commission, and worked on this. If someone had a problem, they could be solved this way. So we worked on this. In the earlier days, this was difficult for everyone.

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Now, Alhamdulillah, people are getting used to it. One important question, sir. People have very dark images about Taliban 1. You said you changed Taliban 2. I went out on the streets. People were telling me that we can go out now.

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Some cricketers were telling me that they couldn't go out before.

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The family members used to ask.

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Now we can go out.

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Last night I was out at 10 or 11 in the restaurant. Everyone was there. My family was there. Family members were all there. What is the difference between Taliban 1 and Taliban 2? What did you learn from the implementation? It was a very short-cut. It was a short phase. The previous government came and came in this way.

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The previous communist regime of when the Mujahideen came, we fought for 4-5 years. After that, for 5 years, our people, the Taliban and the late Mullah Omar Rahim, we got a little time. And in that, one thing was that we had a lot of problems and problems in our heritage. Afghanistan was not recognized at that time and it was a difficult time for the world. Afghanistan needed a cleanliness and that fight continued till the end of the day. So, if there were any difficulties or lack of experience, it was natural and it was a

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natural thing. But after that, when the US came and took over Afghanistan, we fought side by side. We negotiated and negotiated since 2007-2008. Our leader at that time, Sh. Uthman Rahimullah, he opened a door for diplomacy with the world under the name of the Political Commission and the Political Office. We also did diplomacy them in diplomacy.

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Sometimes through others, sometimes through the third party. Sometimes directly. We fought in the field as well. We exchanged prisoners and other things. So, it was very late. Before this, in 2007 or 2008, a man from Italy married our great grandfather. This is how diplomacy was also formed.

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So, in this era, the fight against the world, the clashes, the clashes, these are things that bring in a very deep experience. Afghanistan, the way you described it, is a very old experience. It is a generation of our ancestors. People in other countries only give military rank to people and give a distinction.

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But our real generals, our real leaders, have fought against Russia. They have real military experience and political experience. During the war, we have tried to resolve the issues and issues of the people. But we have not been able to do that. We have been in the mountains, in the mountains. We have been in the mountains, in the mountains.

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We have been in the mountains, in the mountains. We have been in the mountains, we will try to live a peaceful life. And Inshallah, our hopes will be fulfilled. One second last question, sir. I heard that the person you were exchanged with in Australia, later that person himself returned to Afghanistan.

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You were probably sentenced to death twice by the government here, at that time it was the court. And then you were saved under the exchange offer.

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And then the person you were replaced with then you were saved under the exchange offer.

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And then the person who replaced you, you returned from there, you returned, he came back from Australia, and someone told me that his grave is here in Afghanistan. Is this true? This is true. After five years in jail, I was sentenced to two times of imprisonment. And then finally, an American and an Australian, two of my friends, were taken to Kabul. I was with my friends for three years.

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Finally, the American agreed to take me to him. My uncle is a deputy chief of the army staff. He is a very old military general. He was imprisoned for 9 years and I was imprisoned for 5 years. My other friend is a deputy governor in Ghazni. We went to Qatar and was transferred there. Those two people, an American and an Australian, from a province called Zabul, with a gun, they abused him.

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He was in jail with his friends, he was influenced by their morals. He was a teacher at an American university. The Australian was called Timothy Weeks. But when he was in jail, he studied and then he converted to Islam. He knew two people.

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When he was in jail, he was influenced by two Taliban soldiers. One was named Jibrail and the other was Umar. So he named himself Jibrail Umar. When he went to Australia, I negotiated with him. I was in Doha at the time. Once I came agreed to come to Kabul. He requested me to come here and I said I wanted to spend my last days here.

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He had cancer and I wanted to stay here and serve the people. He was influenced by the culture of Afghanistan. He was influenced by the Afghani clothing, the cap, and his own style. He was also influenced by the old style of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. He passed away last year. He is a great good and blessed grave of ours. And the companions of our Prophet, peace be upon him, are buried there. We buried the martyrs there.

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So, it's a big story. A film story. But, short cut. Okay, you talked to Ganguly ji and Jaishah sahab about cricket when the Taliban took over. Because there was a big crisis at that time. The ICC had refused to give money. Many Afghan players were refusing.

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I heard that you guys spoke to the BCCI at that time. And you said that Afghan cricket should not suffer. Afghan cricket is doing well. My question is that the trade of Afghanistan is closed. There are not many countries in the world that have given their trust to your government. You guys are talking. How are you communicating with India?

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And how do you see Modi's government? When we reached here, the ICC was in trouble. All the formal institutions, except cricket, the link with the world was almost cut. And here, as per the leadership order, we focused on the cricket board

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so that it would be safe from any harm. So, at that time, the first foreign minister of India came to Kabul. We knew that he had a prominent role in the ICC. We talked to him at the same time. India had stopped him, so he wanted to come back. In our meeting, I shared with him that cricket is a matter of happiness.

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It has nothing to do with our government. If you keep fighting with us, it is a different matter. Cricket should not be harmed. If you keep fighting with us, it's a different matter. Cricket shouldn't be harmed. So, if you care about cricket and our players in the IPL, and you help us in this,

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the new chairman, Mr. Nirwais Ashraf, the CEO, J. Shah and Ganguly helped a lot in the ICC. At the same time, we talked to Pakistan's Prime Minister, Ramiz Raja, and asked him to try. He tried. And we also requested the UAE's ICC office.

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We worked for for political support. But today you asked a question. We told you that we have not mentioned it yet. But it was very good. You are seeing the cricket now. It has reached a very good level.

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You left India and defeated everyone. We defeated everyone in India. But Ruhit Sharma, with us, with us, what did he say? Rohit Sharma found out that the Taliban leader is going to say the name of the leader. Rohit Sharma has retired now.

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Rohit and I are still in the same position. We have been working hard since then. We were both red. Hotez retired in 1928. But that day we worked really hard. From Kabul. If he had been there, it would have been difficult. You know about this retirement.

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Did Rohit Sharma take the right decision?

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Rohit Sharma is fine. Hotez is fine. I don't know what reason for his retirement. He did it, especially because of his taste. In cricket, in sports, and in politics in general, the individual players who come are very few.

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They can make history. So, my advice to people is that people should try for 50 years to avoid retirement and stay in their fitness. He was in a hurry. I don't know why he struggled with his board. He was fed up with your media.

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Your media is also struggling. But he didn't do it. He had time. Now, J-Road is close to Sachin. He is still there, but he didn't do well. It was a time for him. Jorut is now behind Sachin. It was a chance for him to make history.

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You kept an eye on the whole world.

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Jorut is breaking Sachin's record. Virat is retiring.

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This is life and it also requires youth. I had one question left. How do you see the Indian government? How are the relations with the Taliban's Indian government? Because India loves Afghanistan a lot. If I talk about the common people, everyone has emotions in their hearts. Your team must have gone to play.

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They must have told you that they get a lot of love. They get as much love as I got on the streets. How do you at diplomacy now? Is there any discussion? And how is the current government, Modi Sahib, or others? In reality, we are still in the initial stages.

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In August, our four years of our tournament. In the first two years, his MBC was shut down. And then slowly, it started again. There are two points. One of them is that the cricket I mentioned has helped a lot. It has been a good thing. We have a good connection with our board and others.

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The players who are going from here to there in the IPL can also be facilitated. The second thing is that Afghanistan is a real situation. We have defeated a big enemy by our sacrifice and people's sacrifice. The government is in our hands and the country is in our hands. These are our people. country is in our hands. This is a real situation.

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For this, whether someone agrees or not, they should agree. Whoever has a relationship with Afghanistan, whoever has a negative attitude towards it, they should not delay it. For example, when India came to the diplomatic level, the MBCP, and all the big meetings in the world, regarding Afghanistan, India played a very good role in that. Regarding Afghanistan, if you see any negative thing, or if you see on social media, if there is a minister, everyone is following one opinion.

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It is very difficult for a government to control everyone, especially the political people. But as you said, it is a positive thing. It is good for the economy, and it is good for health. and health issues. But the other thing is the need. The old projects in Afghanistan

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have not started working like this. People want to do better. But what is happening now is too much. People are happy and have good relations with other countries, with neighbors, with neighbors. India has good relations with Afghanistan.

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We also wish that no one have to face any difficulties. We also wish that the old projects that are going on here, for the people, big projects, like electricity, roads, dams, etc. And in the world of cricket, it is not just the ICC that is working. There are many other things that are still left. The stadium is not good.

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The big governments like the ICC have a role in this. We expect that they will focus on this as well. Do you want Afghanistan to have an international cricket match? Afghanistan is ready for this. There is no problem in it. We have seen the security situation. But the problem of stadiums is still there.

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We wish that we try on our side and on the government's side to have a stadium and an international match. This is the wish of every country. This is my last question for the top three priorities. You have to tell us three priorities for Afghanistan. We are going to take Afghanistan here.

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Your brother is the Home Minister. You are playing an important role in the government. What are the three things you will do in Afghanistan in the coming time? In Afghanistan, the most important need is for the unity of the people. Afghanistan needs a lot of unity. Because Afghanistan has always faced difficulties due to disagreement and division. We try to build a good relationship between the people of every opinion.

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We should end the hostility and hostility that our leadership has taken towards Afghanistan. Because the most urgent need for Afghanistan is this. If someone is angry, then use the enemy. I have a question. A lot of Sikh brothers left our country. You are saying that they can come and live in peace. You can ask the people here.

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Our government has taken back a lot of land. The people have taken it back. In the last 20 years, the land has been taken back. Our government has worked on it. Our government has asked for it. Our government has repeatedly said that

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there is no problem for anyone here. If we have any relation with Afghanistan, if our people have our views, our ideas, then it is their right to live in this system. So, we have opened up for this. You have to tell us two more things.

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Two things. Secondly, for the last 50 years, we have been deprived of the natural condition of education and development. This was not our fault. It was the fault of the world that brought us to war for its benefits and interests. Our people were deprived of it. Our people have deprived it of education. The virus that we have in us during wars and wars is still there. The difficulties that are coming now, it is not our fault.

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It is the fault of those people who brought the war here. We also want to educate well. We also want to make good technology. We also want to do well, we also want to make good technology, we also want to work well for our country. You saw how much damage Israel and Iran suffered in the 12-day war. But the world's big channels were busy with the final, and we had to focus on it. We had to focus on each missile. But for 50 years, we have been subjected to many missiles.

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We have been subjected to many injustices. But we don't have a camera or a picture to record the voices of our victims. So, we still have deep wounds inside us. We have a lot of time to heal them. So, the most important thing is our education. We have to strengthen it, we have to move forward.

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If people get educated in this, then he can work in his country. He doesn't need to emigrate to other countries. Afghanistan is a place where you can only work with people. We pray and we hope that we can work hard for our people and education. And we can be saved from other needs. We worked hard to achieve our goals. We were able to avoid the second crisis. The second crisis was a time of helplessness.

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We are proud that we succeeded. Now we are in the second phase. It is a little difficult. We will try to overcome it. We have to be careful about the third crisis. We have to be careful about it. Even if it is you are careful, it is okay if it becomes a secret.

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It has to do with education and economy. You have seen it in Kabul as well. There are big projects going on in other places. The one that was stopped for 50 years, for example, the wrestling ring. Isn't it difficult for you to make money?

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Because your trade is not doing well. Yes, there are difficulties and challenges. Despite that, our government and trade are working very hard. You can see the cleanliness in Kabul. You can see the new roads. In the history of Pakistan, this was not the case in the history of Afghanistan.

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Other people also did the same. For example, a big project, since the time of Dawood Khan, a project of a wrestling ring, a ring of 280 km in Asia, we had to build it. In the last two or three years,

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we built it with our own budget and with our own companies. Alhamdulillah, we built it in the last 90 minutes. If it is built, it can be a success

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in the future in Afghanistan. It can be a success because the land around them and the crops. The TAPI project

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is related to you. It has been going on for 30, 40 years. It has been going on for 30 years. From Turkmenistan to Afghanistan, Pakistan, Pakistan to TAPI. T-A-P-I

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It has not even started yet because of the war. It is now going inside Afghanistan. It has gone inside for a few kilometers. It is now going to Pakistan. I have mentioned a friend of mine.

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He is also very focused on it. But he is also concerned about the other countries, like Nibar, and the world, they are also facing problems. Because they also need it. They also have problems.

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And Afghanistan is still facing sanctions, and other problems. The world is still facing problems. But we are working with our will and God's grace, we are trying to strengthen the economy. I am asking this as I am going to the end. Was it difficult to make a government by fighting?

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Or was it difficult to run a government by making a government? The system is a little different in India. There is an election system. People want to become the government and reach there. But here, there is a difference. For example, my elder brother, the minister of interest,

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he said that during the war, I used to think that when our country becomes free and victorious, I will rest a little. I said that I am very tired. I am not resting. This is a very difficult phase. When the government reaches the level of people's expectations,

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and the country is facing a lot of problems and losses, it was easy to become a government. It has become. But to move forward is very difficult. It is very challenging. Because we are such people that we have a lot of work to do with practical results. With political analysis, we have started a very strong work.

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But we have a prayer that everything will be done. Congratulations to you, sir. Congratulations to your country.

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I wish you guys do well.

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Our effort was that when I came here, a version of Afghanistan, Kabul and the Taliban to the world. I am happy that you have been very honest with all the questions. I have a question for you. It would be nice if you could answer it. I spoke about cricket today for the first time.

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Afghanistan, as you have seen, has started a new life with peace and tranquility. Afghanistan is a country in all respects. In cricket, we are at a place where people have become the new generation of youth. They dream of becoming big heroes. We are trying to achieve that. That's why we have come out of the difficulties. One thing is that the Indian Cricket Board has helped a lot with Afghanistan, Pakistan, and also with Afghanistan. Because it is also our neighbor. Diplomacy is a little different from cricket. Cricket was very popular for people in India and Pakistan.

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If this becomes a sacrifice of diplomacy, what is left? We want you to keep away from diplomacy and focus on cricket. You are saying that India and Pakistan should have a match. Yes. Did you like it When you defeated Pakistan, did you feel good? Yes, because it was a big thing for such teams.

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You are giving a diplomatic answer here, not the real answer. I want the real answer. I am a diplomat here. The era of war is over. No, it was was a great day. Because you or Pakistan or any other big team,

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which has a long history in cricket. We are not losing now. Yes, yes. For them, it is not a big deal. But for our teams, it is a big deal. Because to build confidence,

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you can do it on yourself, you can do it tomorrow. It happened like this in Pakistan, England, Australia, it all happened. Because I wanted to build trust on myself. That I can do it. I can do it tomorrow. That's how it happened in Pakistan, England, Australia. That's how I built trust. Did you feel the same way?

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I think that day, the best thing about him was that he was very far from me. He was a youngster. I was not able to do anything to him. I was very far from him. I said, I can't do this. I was very far from here. There was an incident in cricket history.

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It was not a mishmash, it was an incident. Then I took up the job in 20. You defeated him. That job was done. Thank you so much, sir. Thank you so much, sir.

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Thank you very much.

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