GABIGOL - Podpah #991

Give him a round of applause, please. Let's go! Let's go! I'm going to use the audience, you know?

Let's go! You look good, bro. You too. You're wearing those Christmas coats, you know? From Christmas, yeah.

From the... Have you forgotten about me?

Staying at home, at the table... Let's go! You look great, man! You're wearing those Christmas coats, you know? The ones they forgot about me.

Staying at home, at the table, that's what I'm wearing. And you're wearing a Blade outfit. It looks like you're going on a mission.

I have a lot of missions today.

You look tense, you look great.

I'm tense today.

Thank you, brother.

You're good?

I'm great, and you? I'm great too, thank God. We're back, the last and only one of the week. And he's back, right, Igor?

Exactly, before introducing our wonderful guest.

He has a lot of words.

He's our Santa Claus, brother. You go to the mall now, Santa Claus is there. It's the same thing you saw at the party.

And he's already become a thing. Sometimes the Family Tromba, it must be fun. For sure. And is Gabigol going to be there? I want to see if Gabigol is going to say that stuff. It's kind of a routine.

We open the microphone for the man to speak. The thing is, before introducing our wonderful guest, you already know who he is, I know you're curious, I know you've been waiting all week, you bastard, but first I need to give the messages. First, what to talk about? About our sponsors. Let's talk about Amazon Mítico Jovem,

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Damn, breathe now. You've been talking for a minute without breathing.

I'm in the box, brother. I'm breathing, I'm become the young Maguila. Come, come. You know?

Key?

You can come whoever you want. Whoever you want, no.

It's not like that.

Hey, Popó.

It's not like that. I'm going to Rio de Janeiro on Sunday. I want peace, man. For God's sake.

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The moment has arrived, right, Igor? Underground. It's the moment, underground. I thought he wouldn't come, not because he doesn't have words, but a lot of things happening at the end of the year.

Exactly, Christmas is coming. You know?

And the guy said, let's go.

Would you like to be here now?

In this situation, yes. Me too. In this situation, yes.

But any other, where would you like to be? In the Northeast. I wanted to be in the Northeast, man. Yeah, it could be. The Northeast is much better.

Much better. Much better. Much better.

Let's go. I receive with a lot of affection, I make a lot of noise.

For him, who comes every year. Whether you want it or not. Give Gabigol a big hand, our partner. Let's go!

Give him a hand! Give him a hand!

That's it. Let's go! Give it up for the guys! Give it up for them!

That's it!

Let's go, Martin!

Turn on the AC, it's hot in here.

How are you, brother? I'm feeling Roberto Carlos, bro. Why? It's the end of the year.

It's true, right?

It's the end of the year.

Next time, give him some roses to kiss and play.

It's my grandma's dream, bro. I'm you know some

of that is a really good idea not a mood or not I don't know somebody very much one of my own

community it's a facility that you find your mind I'd call up a zeta my spirit because they don't know what you think you're a cool person I should go to the resume I think I like to give interviews. They have more stories.

Yeah, I tell stories, laugh, drink wine.

They are more wise people.

Maybe. I stay home more, have a barbecue, they tell stories.

And it's a lot of stories.

It's true. Are you in a more home-made phase nowadays?

Man, I'll tell you I've always been.

You're home-made?

Yeah, I've always been. But obviously I like to hang out too.

I don't just stay at home, but I think I'm more of a homebody. I'm like that too, Mítico.

You know it.

You are, you're a homebody.

I go out of the house, brother. Wow!

No, if it's a cool party.

A cool show. A cool show. Cool. Top 3 shows that Gabigol would put on.

Matuê.

I don't know how to say it. He's still weird.

He's still weird.

I'm listening to his weird stuff. I'm enjoying it.

Did you like it?

I did, but there are some songs I really liked.

Top 3. Do you have a top 3?

I have Matuê.

No, the songs. The songs. Do you have a top 3 already, Teo? I have Matoé... Oh, man... Matoé, Hungary...

No, the songs! The songs!

Oh, ok! From the album!

Backstage, Estranho and Japonese. Those three I'm listening to a lot.

And you?

Mine is Backstage, too. Estranho, too. Backstage I liked a lot.

And Autobahn. I'm good too, I'm good at this game. I found the key. You guys are trappers, right? We are weird. But ok, Matuê, I want to know your top 3. A cornflake I really want to go, which will have a tour next year, Djavan. And it's inevitable, Tardizinha.

I've never been to Tardizinha.

There will be a T have an afternoon tomorrow.

Where?

Interlagos.

Look at that.

Is it destiny? Look at the script laughing. Is it destiny? I don't know. I know I'm going.

Tell me what happens in the afternoon, man. Because I always look at this event and I say,

damn, what a wonderful event. First, Tiaguinho is a phenomenon, I'm a big fan, I've known him for a long time. I always went to Exalta's shows, you know?

It was my childhood, 13, 12 years old, with my friends on the track, and fuck, I was tied up.

You're a pagodeiro.

Dude, I'm more of a trap, but I rap, but... But you don't deny a Pagode? Obviously not. And Tardezinha is my favorite. I've never been, and the show is different.

I've never been, I swear.

They did something crazy recently that didn't even go on the media, to crowd things and stuff.

No, there's going to be one tomorrow. I'll be there for sure.

Really? Will you be in Rio Gaby? On vacation? Ah... I'll be there for sure. Really? Will you be in Rio Gaby? I'll be there on vacation. With dark glasses to avoid... You'll be with the little turkey.

But I have to go. I'll have to go tomorrow. I'm not even inviting you. No, but why not go?

No, but I have to go. Talk to Thiaginho.

It's good that he'll know that I'm going.

He'll know, for sure.

So he said Djavan, Matuê and Thiaginho.

And you?

I think for me, Matuê, Hungary...

Hungary is awesome.

Franco?

Franco Deser, that's true. My favorite artist. Thank you.

I listen to him.

You listen to Franco?

I listen.

Our Pepe Moreno.

I listen. Our Pepe Moreno is doing well, thank God. Listen to Franco Deser.

Please, listen to Franco Deser.

And you?

Me? Racionais, MCs, depending on the show, I'll have to go. But you're always going to be group of saw yeah, I just got a novice

Okay, okay

What for you what for me? The party is odd National apparatus don't wanna put me to a ginger to do Java fade the car I'm gonna be a for a

little man absurd for shows my subsistence in a media So let's go. We saw a show from Djavan, it was awesome. Have you been there?

I have. It was absurd. It was one of the most absurd shows I've been to in my life.

If you don't say Ivete Sangalo.

Matuê, Ivete Sangalo, Djavan and Felipe Amorim. I've been to one of Fifty Cent's in Miami. I was watching a movie. It was crazy. Crazy stuff. If you need anything in Miami, Mithy will send you there. I'm going there, Mithy. I'll let you know. Say hi.

I will.

If you want to see Miami Open, which is tennis, if you want to see Formula 1 and Miami Dolphins... Miami Dolphins I'll go. Just call us.

Miami Dolphins I'll go.

Say hi, it's us. There's going to be a game, right? I'm going there. There will be two Miami Heat games and one Miami Dolphins. It's crazy. Have you been to the game? I have. It's very different.

Do you prefer the NBA?

Yes.

Me too.

I think that in the game, the entertainment is much crazier in the NBA.

But in the NFL, you see that it's something else.

It's a bizarre thing, it's crazy. It's huge. That question is cool, but is it hard?

It's hard.

It's very different, right?

But basketball is also very fun.

What sport do you follow the most?

Formula 1. More than football, more than anything.

Who's your favorite driver?

Lewis Hamilton.

Except for him, he's a bit of an exotic.

I suffered a lot this year with him.

So, what happened? It's his car.

It's the car, right? It's the car. If you deliver the good car in the men's mode, bro? He's going to win? Is he going to continue with Ferrari? No. This is very good, we're talking about another sport.

I mean, man, incredible.

Ah, you want to see soccer?

There must be people saying, why are they talking about soccer until now?

No, he's going to continue, he still has a contract. Next year he's going to change the rules. So, I hope Ferrari helps be a brand new car. They say that's why he went to Ferrari. So he can have a year of adaptation and next year he can be with us in the car's construction. Imagine, I think that for you to be at Ferrari, for football it's to be at Real Madrid. Even if you're not at the best moment, it's the club or team that everyone wants to be part of.

It's everyone's dream. The red car is something else.

But who's the best brand right now?

McLaren.

McLaren won, right? It was Orlando Norris. But that's boring, right?

His charisma is 2.

No, the charisma of F1 drivers is cool, Míndigo. So people don't think the opposite. It's cool cool. Verstappen is really cool. He says things that I respect. If people knew what he said on and off, they would be speechless. But I think they're already waiting for him.

I think so.

He said that if this car was mine, this championship would have ended a long time ago. That's a peak.

Oh, man, look at that.

That's very...

Man, it's like the last season ended in a way that it had been a while since it ended, with three drivers being world champions, a little bit of a gap in points. I think it was two points.

But you're the kind of fan that watches...

No, no, I'm a fan. More than soccer. Do you play video games too? I play simulators. Do you have simulators? Yes, I do. What level of simulators? Because we exchange ideas.

No, simulators are top level. I talk to Bortoletto.

Oh, you talk to him?

Yeah, I talk to Bortoletto, I talk to Hamilton, I've talked to Gasly. I exchange ideas with them. If it's a good car, this guy will make history. I have no doubt about that. Now it's changed, it's going to be Audi. And since everything has changed, maybe the car will be good, you'll see. And it's good. It's fucking good.

I have a simulator that Yuri fixed. It's a Logitech, I think it's the entry level. Very good. It's already fucking good.

Didn't you buy a power hand?

I bought it and had it fixed, so I can change.

I had it fixed at the... I see, because you saw something crazy. But it's changing a lot, I'm not good enough to change gears manually.

It's very hard.

You change gears manually, you do everything, wow.

Because I'm addicted, I used to play, at the time I didn't even have a simulator, it's obvious, Formula 1, I don't know, the first one, on the controller. And usually the tracks don't change much. It's hard to have a track, now it's even harder, right? Like, this one in Miami, I didn't have it. And then, I was already addicted, so I have a good idea, but it's hard.

Which circuit do you prefer?

I think Spain. I'm good in Spain. Monaco is horrible. Monaco is very hard.

I haven't played there, but in the last lap you hit it.

Monaco is very hard. Interlagos is also hard, because it's always the first one we want to play.

Interlagos is good. I like we want to play. Interlagos is good.

I like Imola. Imola is boring.

What is your difficulty level in F1?

I think I play more than 70% of the difficulty. I play well. What is your difficulty for F1?

I play well.

Zero.

Mine too.

No difficulty.

No difficulty at all.

No difficulty.

Competing.

We're competing.

You know.

We're talking about soccer.

We're talking about soccer.

When it's worth it. When it's worth it.

When it's worth it.

Stop it.

But I understood what you meant. Everyone understood. He came, he defended at doing this for a year. Don't call the people, man.

It's over.

I don't call you guys, man.

Deep down I do call a little. But when you're doing... Stop!

No, seriously, bro, the last time you came here, first of all, thank you. You always come here to exchange an idea with us. We've made a great bond, a great friendship. And I'd like to know, the last time you came, you didn't have a club yet. You hadn't closed with Cruzeiro, in fact. You were dating, maybe. And I'd like to know how it was, those backstage...

Who was at the party, at the time... Why did you choose Cruzeiro? Was it that trip to Japan that you decided to go there? Tell us, because I think everyone is curious about it. I think it was that trip to Japan, where I talked to the Mizuno guys, who were phenomenal. And of course, during the trip, there were some moments where I had to go on the phone to talk to my business partners, my parents, and so on.

And we came to the conclusion that Cruzeiro was the right choice.

Were there other clubs? Brazilian clubs?

No, there were. Thank God there are always teams that talk There were a lot of Brazilian clubs, a lot of foreign teams But analyzing everything, I thought Cruzeiro was the right team The right project. Because no one chooses a team because of a year, two or three, but the project and in general

I think Cruzeiro would be the best.

I understand. And did it take a long time for this process? Like, let's go or not, another team has arrived, what's up?

Yeah, no, when it comes to making a final a final decision, of course it's much more difficult. But as we had a lot of teams, we were eliminated from what I wanted for my career, what I wanted for myself as a person. And it turned out that Cruzeiro was the team that, in the end, had more things that I wanted to prove, for example.

And to make a decision like this, an athlete like you, does it depend more on you or on your team? If you want it, your team doesn't, how does this decision work?

I think the team has to agree, it's obvious, but in the end it's me who...

Hits the hammer.

Hits the hammer and says, hey, it's happened before that everyone wanted one thing and I wanted another. But in the end, I'm the one who plays, I'm the one who lives it, so in the end it has to be me. But it's really cool to have a staff that disagrees. Because normally we see that people just... Mine is the one that disagrees the most in the world.

Just tap one.

The guys laughed.

No, it's the one that disagrees the most.

I want to do this. People laughing. They laughed. It's what they disagree the most. There's nothing that we say, it's unanimous.

There's never been this one.

There will be more. What I think is really cool, is that you've already reached, it seems like you have a really close friendship with Pedrinho, the owner of the club.

How was it? It did you get to know him? It was a big surprise, because during the negotiations we only talked on the phone, and we talked a few times. And of course when you get to a place like this, you get a little nervous, right? New school, right? Yeah, new school, that's it. So he was a guy, he's a guy that for me is totally special, he's a guy that, he treated me and my family very well, we have an amazing relationship and during this year it only got better, and as I said, I've said this many times, as president he was the best I've had

And in this initial phase, how was the adaptation? Because one thing is to live in Rio, another is BH, how was that?

Actually, the whole year was a little complicated, but first, the city is wonderful, the people are amazing I think, obviously, that after I leave Flamengo and go back to Rio, I have a huge affection of the Cariocas, but you go to a place where you don't have that much identification I'm not from BH, my family is not from BH, I didn't have that approach before And you live that there, for me it's phenomenal People, you go to restaurants, people ask if you're liking the city, if you're adapting, if you've been somewhere, if you've been to another. Because it's a very divided city, there is obviously the Minas Gerais, but we see that it's either Cruzeiro or Galo.

Cruzeiro is more.

Yeah?

It's more.

But what's the deal? You go to a restaurant, you'll definitely find a Galo fan. Do they bother you? Some do, but I think the people are very respectful. It surprised me too. But, Classic Week, everything changes. Classic Week is war. Classic Week is war.

The city is more lively, there's that anxiety for the game. But, man, everyone I go to the street, I go to restaurants, I go to some places to meet, the people with me are phenomenal, phenomenal. Gabi, talk about your... especially the presentation, I looked at it and it was really cool, because I hit this key a lot when I'm exchanging football ideas with people, that we don't have any more athletes identified with Brazil.

Not only with a club, but with Brazil. And I saw you do a... You come to Santos, try your life abroad, it doesn't work out, you go back to Brazil, play for Flamengo, you finish everything, win everything you can, and then you go to another great club, Cruzeiro,

and there's a lot of people waiting in the stadium. A very big party. And I don't remember this happening with anyone else. I'm talking about Brazil only. Only Neymar, but Neymar is a different case. And how do you stay in your satisfaction, in your ego, of knowing, like, I'm doing a great career, I'm 29 years old? Do you think about these things? Because I think it's really cool. You left Santos, a great club, you were very well received in Flamengo, and even better received in Cruzeiro because of everything you've done.

Without a doubt. Well, taking the ego aside, it's not just about me. I think people play these things a lot for me. But that performance says a lot more about Cruzeiro than about me. They were there because I was going to Cruzeiro. Cruzeiro can fill a stadium because of the club. Of course, there was me, Dudu at the time, Fagner, Christian, Eduardo.

But that's not a party just about me, you know? It's a party about Cruzeiro. And Cruzeiro is huge. But of course, when these things happen, I get extremely happy and excited. So, as I said, I was welcomed with open arms. And I think that was a kick-off for Cruzeiro, a key change, something that, even without me playing at that moment, I think I was helping the brand Cruzeiro. The fans going to the stadium happier. I think that's also something that...

It's not just football itself, right? I think we can also sell more jerseys, we can fill up the stadium more. Football is not just a sport, right? We can make the kids happier, the kids have an idol, not that there wasn't one before, but to have an idol to put on the shirt. Closer. Closer, to make the celebration. That review we did this year, I don't remember the year, at the BH mall.

Yes.

What was the crowd like?

It was like, poof, it was packed. Actually, before, Mizuno told him not to tell anyone. He didn't tell anyone and the mall was packed. And the fans were crazy about Cruzeiro.

I think that's awesome. I'm a huge fan. And Corinthians is a huge team. But Memphis is doing that a lot. I see a lot of kids with their bandanas. People identify with it, but Memphis is doing a lot of that, I see a lot of kids with their bandanas No, a lot of people identify themselves, but Memphis is not Brazilian What we miss is a guy who was born in the club and chose to stay

A guy who was successful in Brazil and came here

Do you think that can still exist in Brazil?

I think so

I think I'm part of that change I think more younger players will want to stay in Brazil to experience that. I think that from a while ago, this has been changing a lot. And it's something I say, and it's true. Don't leave Brazil to go to the 10th in the English league. Because you'll win more, or because you'll maybe fill some...

No, Brazil pays very well. All the players that... Of course, there are some teams that are really more difficult. But today, there are already 3, 4, 5 teams that pay well, that pay well. I think that in a little while the clubs will start to improve. And there will be more teams for Brazilian players to stay here. Because I think that in the past...

If you came to Europe, your career was horrible. I think it was like that. I think not today. We see several examples. Pedro is there in Flamengo. Leo Ortiz is there. Rascaita has been there for 10 years.

Caio Jorge is there now. The Brazilian goalkeeper, Encha Cabecinha. He won't go. Don't go to Arabia. Stay here in Cruzeiro.

But isn't it so hard not to go to Zarabia, for example? To get that truckload of money there.

I think, let's see, for the sake of Real Madrid, Barcelona and Montenegro, you're not going.

I will.

You have to go. Now, go to, I don't know, China, Arabia, it depends on the moment Money you would never imagine you would get in your career But we never know how the guy's financial life is Will he go after his family? He has to go at the right time, I think But when it becomes an option

When it becomes an option, you have the option of winning really well in Brazil Play in a great team And you go there to play in the tenth of the Spanish league Or to not fight for anything Or to stay there playing in fifth and have the seal of playing in Europe For me, I mean, for me, that's not valid, I can say that someone has another opinion,

but for me, not I agree, because if we go a little further back to the decade of 2090, you can name 5 idols per club. Marcelinho, Carioca, Rincônio, Svampeta, Paulo Nunes, Edmundo, Evair, São Paulo. Now, come to 2010. Who are the idols? The idol wins a title and leaves. There is no longer that identification of staying 10 years in the club. I really hope the guys who have a lot of time to stay. I hope. There was the Hulk thing there, also an athletic from Minas Gerais.

I hope he stays, because... Only the greatest soccer player. Someone has to change this... this... this thing. Like Cássio, I also rooted for him to stay in Corinthians. Luciano has been in São Paulo for a long time.

And I root for Cônizes because I root for Yurio Alberto to stay. It's hard to stay now, but he's been there for a long time. I think so, because these are the players who have to have the responsibility to change what has always been done.

In the case of Yurio Alberto, it seems that it will be impossible to hold him. Because every year that passes, there must be some proposals, some things that are... Guys, this time...

In Corinthians it's a little different because there's no health to hold the guy. The Brazilian Carlos Jorge Fartileiro now. He's 23 years old, if I'm not mistaken.

Jesus, my dear.

If I'm not mistaken. If he stays 10 years in the Cruzeiro, we're talking about one of the biggest idols in the history of Cruzeiro. But of course, when he gets to the 8th or 7th year, it seems like he's the one to blame for everything. And I know how that is. So I know how hard it is. So I cheer a lot and I disturb Caio Jorge.

I say, stay there, don't go away, stay there, stay there. Because we, as players, we can change that. And the kids from the academy that are coming up, they can say, I want to play for Cruzeiro. Because I want to be like Kai Jorges. And I want to go to England. And then I want to go back to Brazil.

Why don't I want to stay at Cruzeiro forever? Why can't I stay at Cruzeiro forever? But since you were a kid, I think think, in the kids' heads, it's like, it's going to Europe. Of course, but of course, we have... I was with Rodrigo at the time of Santos, Real Madrid arrived, I told him, go! Ah, but then it's obvious, right? Go now, what are you waiting for? It was supposed to have gone already.

But when the guy, for me, there comes a stay in the current. Sometimes he's even an extra class and doesn't have the options to go to some teams that he... Like Caio Jorge, let's say, now it's open. He went to Zenit, for example. He wanted to stay. I said, fuck it. I told him, fuck it, that's it.

And an attitude like that from the fans, oh my God, it think it creates a relationship. I think that's it. It creates a relationship with the team.

And you started to get better at Cruzeiro. I think it was the best start for your time at the club. It was the best start. Four goals and three games, right?

It was a very good start. Of course we ended up losing to Minas Gerais in the semifinal. And in the beginning for me. Everything was really weird. In the locker room, on the bus, where I could go and where I couldn't. Those manias before the game.

You had to be really different.

It was hard, but the group is really cool. They welcomed me really well.

There's that thing you said, like, in Maracanã I'm not saying you should choose A or B, ok? It's because you played there for a long time In Maracanã, I know where I was

With my eyes closed

And in Mineirão, it's the same size of field And we started playing in the American Stadium Which is smaller, more compact. It reminded me of Vila. At first. Then I went to Mineirão.

It was very strange. The reference, I mean. The reference. But I get used to it. Today it's a more natural thing. More natural.

Mineirão is complicated. No, Mineirão is full, it's, a packed Mineirão is a beautiful thing. I want to know, from the beginning, what you said about the technical exchange. First, how is it to be trained by Fernando Diniz? Because I see that he is convicted in his idea. And I think that this is very lacking nowadays.

And I'm not saying for good or saying that he is a bad coach, that he is a bad person And how was it to be trained by him? I think people have a little bit of anger for people who have a conviction and don't change I think it has a little to do with that too But it was very good, he was one of the guys who made me go to the cruise We talked a lot before I got the call.

Before the holidays. So it's something totally different from what I had learned in other teams.

So it was really good. We played in the preseason, but it was very little time.

What do you say is different? This contact? No, I mean the relationship in the game. And being able to get the ball in the goalkeeper. The full parallel that he calls, where you have to get several players on one side and play there.

That thing of not having a lot of position.

Do you like that? I liked it, but as I said, it was very little time. So you couldn't test it. We did some preseason games, but I trained with him for a week and played.

You can't...

Know how it's going to be, how it's going to be planned. And in Minas Gerais it was the same thing. I think we played very few games and he was sent away. But for me it was phenomenal. It was an honor to work with him. I'm not talking about this specific case, but does the change of coach break the rhythm of the club? Like, we're coming here, this coach is... changed.

Tomorrow is another guy who thinks maybe totally different. What is the difficulty of the player there? I think that as football in Brazil is evolving, I think it was more disturbing when it was a very sudden exchange So you trained with a super offensive coach And then comes a guy who is a backstabber Then everything changes

But I think that nowadays football is starting to evolve in Europe It's been a long time Like, you have a guardiola on the team, you won't bring Simeone to your team afterwards you have to bring a coach that... In the same line In the same line, obviously there will be different things, obviously some will want one thing and others will want another

But the style of play is similar But the style of play... now when you change... I don't know, something very different from the bug.

You don't need to mention it, but it happened to you? Several times.

It must be crazy.

Several times.

You're here, walking to one side, and another teacher comes. Now, you know what you were doing?

Yeah, I'm here, I can't go to the other side, but you introduced me, and tomorrow I'll be on this side.

Change.

Wow, I was going to bug everything. Got it? Yeah. I got it. It's like that. But you don't have to say much, you just have to accept it. It's the boss. He said it, it's said.

A lot of these things, I think there's a lot of... Nowadays, like everything, everything ends up becoming a product, everything is too fast. People don't sit down to do... I'm going to have a base on this, I'm going to say that I think that's what's happening. No, it's like, son of a bitch, hit this deck and let's go until we die. But you just brought up a situation of changing coach, that sometimes the guy is very offensive and the other one gets to be a backdoor and changes a lot of things. So, many times, you don't play well because you're still adapting to something, the guy asks you to do a function that you won't execute as well as the other one

Does that also make a difference in the end of the day? Because in the end of the day I only see you guys getting yelled at for not playing at all

One thing I say a lot to my friends and they laugh about it For me, there is no bad player There is a player on the right team

Ok, I got it There are players that are made to play in one system There are players that are made to play in another system But that doesn't mean that when a player is in a system that is not his, that doesn't help him That he is bad He is horrible that doesn't help him, he's horrible. Wow, the player is bad, he's useless.

No, he's just not in the style that the coach is. And we can give here a million examples, even with me. Gabriel will play in a counterattack team. It's much harder for me. Now, let's put Gabriel in a team that has the ball, that will create chances.

Then I'm a phenomenon. Then I'm a phenomenon. Now, let's put Pedro in a counterattack team. It's hard. Let's put Pedro to hold the ball from behind, score, let's cross the ball to him. Phenomenon. Now maybe with a striker on the side, that's it. Now let's play in 4-4-2 and we have points. The points have to come in. Play with the opposite foot.

It's harder for the guys.

The example of this is even in the national team. There are players who don't play in the national team, but play in the team. There are players who stand out a lot in the national team, but not in the team.

Of course, for me there are the guys that are extra class that can even put you in the top spot, Messi will be the best there's no doubt about that but there are players that have some difficulties in some systems

and that's not why the player is shit

he's just not fitting in

he's not having the league it should have. So sometimes, I don't know if you watch, you players, I'm talking about the class now, sometimes you should look at the traditional football measure, you know nothing. You don't know anything about the ball,

but you don't know what's really going on. I miss them commenting on the game, not commenting on how much the guy wins, Commentary on Jogo no comment our country caraganha Lucy any who's a war hopper Rosa in town a moron Lucy a tanamorano

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Tarik a de la silva critica Gabigol domino my ball a pretty good ball a key Ojo a barbosa because it am I'll sucky and I'm gonna sing in the p.s. Was key I can't understand people who want to put you against the crowd, who want to beat you up. And it was like I said, this year was a year that I went through this, for example. We played in a style of play that didn't favor me.

Of course I'm not retarded, I don't know what's going on in the field. And I tried to help in the best way possible. But really, the system we played was better for other players. But that doesn't mean I didn't help. That doesn't mean I didn't give my best. That doesn't mean you turned bad.

That Gabriel is a horrible player. No, no, of course not. Other players too. So I think they need should analyze this more. The system, what were the moves, what the coach wanted with this. Does the coach want to potentialize this guy or not?

So it's the same thing with the coach. The coach can't say, Kai and Jorge play like this, Gabriel plays like this. It's another way of playing, it's not the same system. That's why the coach is so important in the team. He has a lot of pieces and he can use them in all ways.

He can't play the same way.

It's because you guys are so famous. You go to this website and people want to make a click with other things from you. Gabigol missed the goal. Gabigol has a new girlfriend. Gabigol, I don't know what. Let's see this one. It's kind of crazy.

I think there are few who can analyze football like that. I think everything has become a little more like, right? Telling the truth doesn't pay off. It doesn't pay off. There's an inevitable subject, my brother. we're talking about a coach, and Tito just got to the Cruzeiro And you guys have already talked about each other publicly, you've already explained your situation And how is the situation today?

The situation is very clear, even Pedrinho played in the presentation I didn't even start with you, obviously And Pedrinho is very crazy He talks, he jokes with me. So, he's the coach of the team, I have nothing against him. I gave my opinion, as he should have his.

But we're on the cruiserweight division, it's not about Gabriel and him. It's about the group, about the cruiserweight division winning. And he knows that we've been through this in Flamengo too. We didn't have any problems in Flamengo, we didn't have any discussion, we didn't have anything. And I respect him as I respect all my coaches. I never had a problem with a coach. Who's going to send him, right?

He's going to send him, I'm the player. And whatever we have to do to help Cruzeiro, I will do it. Awesome, awesome my brother. A lot of people said, after this elimination of Cruzeiro, after we talk a little more about it, that your future was uncertain. That you didn't know if you would stay, and how is Gabigol's future today? Man, this is something that...

You saw this, right? You only saw this on the internet. No, before the semifinal, I was already getting stuck in another team. So much so that before the game, I talked to Pedro Jr., who is a guy, I said,

I'm sold.

Just to know.

And he said, no, you're part of the project. And as I said, when I got it right with Cruzeiro, it's for a four-year project, not for a year 2 or 3 years. Of course things can be discussed and resolved, but no. My manager is here, I won't lie, he didn't talk to any team. No team talked to him.

Of course in the middle of the year there were teams that looked for Cruzeiro, that looked for him too, and it was never an option for me to leave Cruzeiro. In the middle of the year, they already looked for you. Several teams, Cruzeiro knows that. So, my representation is on day 2. My training is scheduled for day 2, I'm on vacation.

Of course, things can be discussed at some point. Like I said during the season. But when I said that, I think people took it to one side and he will leave, he will talk to leave. No, I think all the players in the cast talk to the board. Matheus Henrique, João Marcelo...

It's very crazy, people ask for the players' transparency. You miss the player talking. Then there's the player who says it. And they say, I don't believe it. So, there's this guy on the internet, and the people, the fans, believe it. So, it's hard for me. I'm not going to be there every day, answering.

Otherwise, I'm going to go crazy. You have to worry about playing football. And my focus has always been Cruzeiro.

Day 2 is my representation.

What are your expectations for the Cruzeiro in 2026?

I think that this year was a very good year. We had the goal to go to the Libertadores, we were in third place. Of course, and everyone knows this, I wish I had more minutes. Because I also need this.. People charge more than Gabriel, but it's hard to get 10, 15, 20 minutes in the middle, at the end. It's hard for the player. And who played knows that the rhythm of the game is different. Then you go to a starting game, people expect you to score 10 goals because you're a starter.

Oh, I didn't want a chance? So go for it. Now go, play there.

Shine!

And it's not like that.

And it's not like that, who plays knows. It's time to time. It's time to time. The expectations are always the best. I think we're in the Libertadores, which is the championship we've always wanted to be in.

And what I expect is to help. I think people took a lot of context from what was my year Until yesterday a story came out that I sent to my friends And I showed them that I was more effective than Hulk and Victor Hawk In terms of minutes And I hope to have more minutes I think I had 18 goals, 17

And not playing a lot And not playing a lot, I played but I didn't have a sequence So I think I've been improving And why do you think you had less minutes? I think it's part of the coach's style, like I said, we play in a style of play that is much more for Caio Jorge, not that I can't be for me.

I tried to adapt all year, I tried to help in the best way possible, sometimes even out of my position. And I believe I helped, and I believe I helped. But I think that's part of football. Caio Jorge, I'm a reserve for the Brazilian goalkeeper.

So, right? The kid is blurry.

When I was a Brazilian goalkeeper, Pedro was on the bench too. And Pedro is a great guy.

Very great.

But how do you keep your head up at that moment? Like, fuck, Gabigol, right?

I have to work, I don't have to keep giving interviews or showing off. Those who are in the club know, the coach who was there knows how many times I knock on his door Because it's also hard, when the guy respects you and is calm The guy is comfortable He's there because he's winning a lot, now he's going to be on the bench So he's good Then when the guy gets mad, he's the...

The bad guy

The bad guy

The ignorant, he doesn't respect anyone

So it's hard, it's hard for you to want to everyone. So what I have to do is work, train, and everyone in the club knows how much I've worked hard this year, how much I've dedicated myself this year. My analysis, obviously I'm a fan too.

I want to see your analysis now.

Now I like it.

He called the answer.

He called the answer. Go there and call a leather jacket underground, head. Send it.

Who's ready to hate their father? Take the pen now. I think my analysis is this, I'm a fan too, and obviously I lose my axis when it comes to Corinthians.

What? A lot.

Just a little.

But I think, seriously now, Cruzeiro is a club that was in a bad spot a long time ago. I'm talking about the board, not so much about the football. I know how it is, because Corinthians is a bit complicated too. It was controversial about the card, the president, they used it, they stopped using it. There was that thing with Tiago Neves, everyone remembers. And it was reform himself very quickly,

from that madness. He hired medallists, Cassio, Fagner, Dudu, who's already in the gala, but he hired these guys with weight to see if there was an improvement. And I swear that looking at it from afar,

I said, yes, there will be the vovô team. Vovô, when I was 29, and the league called me a medalist. I was desperate.

You've already won everything.

Where did you say that?

I said, he's 29 and the guys are going to play soccer, it seems like I'm going crazy.

I looked at it from afar and said, it's going to be an older team. I burned my tongue. Cruzeiro playing really well. Brazil ended up 9 points behind Flamengo. If they hadn't lost some points there, I don't know. It's a construction. They got to the third place. They dropped to the Brazilian Cup in the semi-final. And I think it's a construction for the year...

Corinthians can be the Brazilian Cup champion, but they had to drop to Flamengo. They lost the final to Flamengo, they lost a semi-final. You know, it was coming to the finals. I think you know that very well, right, bro? We will hardly ever be champions, we will hardly ever be in the finals. I think that I tend to see,

even because Corizon is not so optimistic, I try to see it from a more patient side. Like, bro, the work is being done. The fuck is when not even that is being done, you know? We are in the era of the impatient. No need to be patient at all.

TikTok is bad, we'll get over it soon.

I was going to say that.

I said that to Igão this week.

I said, Igão, the world has become a big TikTok. I said that to you. Everyone is impatient, no one wants to know about you.

It's bad, it's over. Nobody wants to know about you. Once again, I'm not taking away the merit of the fans. The fans have to be mad. It's normal. It's the fans' role. The fans go there. It's good and bad. It's raining and hot. But this is only for the fans. I saw a journalist saying that you lost the penalty on purpose.

You know? How is that, Gabrigol? How is that? It's your job. But for me, it's crazy for the person to say that.

And it's crazy to believe that.

So it's crazy, that's all crazy.

I agree with you. The person saying it is crazy, but believing it...

But how do you feel reading this, seeing these reactions, and saying, if I was at home I would go crazy, like, what are you guys talking about?

I get really pissed off with that. And with that and with lies. Like, they said it was sold before the game. And now this whole penalty thing.

It's all a narrative that's created to put people...

To fuck you up, it seems.

Yeah, that's it. That's the summary. So, how is it that I'm going to get a penalty and I'm going to want to miss? Another one, it was a chance for us to kill there. So the world is very crazy, right? If I score, I'm the predestined one.

You know.

He's the greatest idol in history. He was here for this. He dedicated himself all year and stayed in the bench, quiet.

Even in the bench?

He dedicated himself. He's a monster. He's there because he sees. He's there because the crowd loves him.

And if I miss, it's the bum.

But what happened there? You think it was Hugo? You tried to fool Hugo? What happened?

No, I missed.

I missed. I had to admit that I missed. It's the first time I've missed such a crucial penalty in my life. Of course it's a very complicated penalty for both sides, for me and Hugo. We've been training together for 5 or 6 years, so it's a very complicated penalty.

And there's no excuse, I made a mistake. I admit it.

But I was watching a video where Hugo hit the opposite leg, I mean, he hit one side of the leg and jumped to the other. And only in your penalty he hits the same leg and goes to the same side. Does that induce anything? Of course it does, he knows how I hit, I also know what he could do, but one way or another, I hit the penalty badly. I got it. I hit the penalty wrong. I hit the penalty wrong. So I don't have an excuse. I made a mistake. If there's a penalty to hit me tomorrow, I'll hit it again. No problem.

I take responsibility for my whole career. It was made and I'm here because I took responsibility for many things during my career. And now it won't be different. If there's another one tomorrow, I'll be there. I saw that you also commented, Gabi, that you... Gabriel missed the penalty and didn't even talk to the fans, didn't even stay with the delegation, left and stayed in São Paulo.

And the people were hitting the key that you weren't good as a group, etc, etc. You were on vacation, from that moment on. That's what I said. Until the penalty, I was a group player. I was the player who was there dedicating myself every day and everything. When you lose the penalty, I'm no longer that player. I'm a bad group player.

And it's the opposite. You losing a penalty of that size is not easy for the player psychologically And for me, because I was the one who made a mistake So you put a lot of things in check I love Pedrinho, and it wasn't easy for me to see him sad Mister had a conversation that he was leaving

I knew it could be his last chance to be champion.

Wow.

So, we used to joke a lot, but Caio Jorge had never won a Brazil Cup. And for no reason, the coach chooses you to go there because it's not a goal. We had agreed during the penalty shootout that if they missed one more, I would go to the room to finish it off. So I had confidence in myself, in the players, so much so that the coach gave me three minutes to score the penalty. Did that influence me? I think so. I didn't even touch the ball when I got on the field. It was a little cold. But I made a mistake. That's not a problem, I took it.

So, people saying something like that is something... It's barbarism. What would I gain by losing a penalty? What's the point of that? To raise something like that? And maybe it's worse if people believe it.

It's like I said. Sometimes the fans believe it.

They want to be fooled.

That's what makes me totally angry with what happened. And about me staying in São Paulo, what I wanted the most was to go home, close to my family, close to my friends, because I made a mistake. This is my responsibility, it's no one else's. So when the game was over, we were already released.

I wasn't the first one to leave the locker room, because my bag was inside the bus. And the security guards went to get it, and the bus had already left. And you can't even leave a game like this fast. There's no way. I went, I took a shower, I talked to Alassie, who was on my side, Carl George, who was on my side. And I said, man, I just want to go home, I want to be with my family, with my friends. I'm from here, it doesn't make sense for me to go to BH, and then go back to São Paulo again. Just to show it to anyone, I know what I'm feeling.

And sometimes people expect a euphoric reaction for everything. I'm not that kind of guy. If people want me to show the crowd that I'm regretting, my way is to train, improve and move on to the next one. It's not me crying, or me kneeling on the floor. There's a quote of yours here, on this table, that you were lost to Palmeiras in the Libertadores final. Why did I remember that?

And then you come here and say, my face is to train and go to the finals again and be champion next year. And that's what happened, you know? So I think that's really cool on your part, because you don't give up being champion, you don't give up being a vice, you don't give up doing penalties or losing. And I think we have to value it, because I see on the 365 days of the year, 364, people saying,

I wanted to talk to the player so much, I wanted to have an opening, but only with a slap, only crazyness. And then I see the guy in another place, you know, like, let's do it. It's my field, right? I think that each player has his own way,

each human being actually has his own way of dealing with things. I have a their own way, every human being has their own way of dealing with things. I have a very particular way, and that's when I win and when I lose. They're here, they don't let me lie. When I scored both goals in Lima, my dad came, my manager came, and I said to them, what are you doing? Calm down, let's eat here, let's be calm, the world is not over. We have to win another one. And in the same way, I don't lose. I won't play for the fans.

And it's not that the ones who cry play for the fans. It's not that. Each one deals in their own way. Each one deals in their own way. My way of dealing is really a little different.

Sometimes when you're lying down, for now, for this period, when you're lying down, you say, Damn, I missed that goal. You keep hearing that.

Of course I didn't sleep for three days. It's obvious. I went home, what else could I do?

Imagine when you're lying down, you hear the fans.

And there's something, like I said, you start remembering the people who helped you to be there. I know Pedr effort of Cruzeiro, the fans of Cruzeiro with me, they kept me in peace all year. Because there was a moment when I played against CRB and I had 3 minutes, I felt like kicking everyone's ass. Everyone's ass. And the fans of Cruzeiro were the ones who hugged me.

They sang congratulations to me on the field on my birthday. I had never heard that in my life. So, when I make mistakes and disappoint people who helped me and want what's best for me, that's horrible. But don't expect me to die, to cry, to kneel.

You'll get better.

That's not my profile. What I have to do is work hard and try to give an answer next year. That's what I have to do. I can't do anything else. There's nothing else to do. I'm going to come here and tell you this. When we lost to Libertadores, I said it and we went there and won.

I could not have won, but I would go again.

I had nothing to do.

And you're not afraid to say it. That's what I think is cool. You trust in it. Because I think everyone stopped trusting in the tackle, because they won't say it so they don't leave corn in the... To be used against him. And I think it's awesome that you say,

I want to win, I will win, next year I'll work hard to be in the final again. I think that's it, you know Gabi? I think so, I think so. I hope things happen in a good way next year. Are you confident?

I think this year was also a year that was very good for Cruzeiro. We went back to the Libertadores, we went to the Brazil Cup final. Of course we wanted to go to the final, but I think it was a great year. I think people take a lot out of the context because of what happened, and no, it was a great year. It's awesome to talk about being a ready-to-work engineer, but for example, the previous game, I think, of Corinthians, you played against Santos, it was 0x0, you scored that goal that was a little bit off, and if you score that goal and it's valid, it could have changed a lot.

No, and before the game, what was the thing? Gabriel will come and he will... He will soften it.

He won't play. He will soften up. It's not gonna play. It's gonna soften up.

Golaço. Golaço.

These ones are a shame when they're invalidated. I swore I wasn't there. I swore I wasn't there. But I'm gonna tell you something. There's a camera from our analysts, from Cruzeiro, that says I wasn't there. Wow, how is that possible? It's like the camera in the villa is like this, and they have one that is like this.

Diagonally?

Yeah.

It looks like I wasn't there.

You must have seen it a thousand times.

No, they told me in the break, I think I wasn't there.

I swore I wasn't there. Memphis used his hand?

It was his hand.

You can't joke about the image. CBF didn't have an image.

That's why it didn't have it. That's why it didn't work. But it was bad. That's what I wanted to say.

But I'll tell you something, no one saw it.

No one complained.

Fabrício Bruno was on the scene, and he didn't complain. Cássio, who fell to the other side, didn't complain. No one saw it. Was it a hand, Gão? It was a hand. It was a hand. It wasn't intentional. It was a hand.

It happens. Gabriel. What I meant by that is... You lost, you lost. CBF has an unimaginable amount of money, which has already been proven. It's a private company.

You could invest...

What was my goal there?

You could invest... In the technology. I think next year, I'm sure it will be next year, it will be a semi-automatic investment. How is that going to work? It's not the person who will handle the line, it's a system, let's say.

Because the person makes mistakes, like this one from Santos.

And you're not one of those who like to make mistakes, because they say that football also has to have a human side.

I think it has to be as fair as possible. I like VAR, for example.

You like it?

I like it. If he had decided faster? I don't like it taking too long.

So that's it, that delay.

That's it.

I think, I don't know, I think everyone wants to get rid of the decision. I think it's hard for someone to... The referee doesn't care a shit anymore! Now, if you call the referee, he will give it. If you call the referee, he will give it. It wasn't a penalty, he called the referee. When he goes there, everyone knows. It's very difficult to see a referee and he won't say like this.

No, it wasn't.

Bro, in the stadium today, there's a little agony. Do you celebrate or not? No, there's this one one and the other one, where you see the guy is 6 meters away from the goal But the flag keeps running, the referee didn't give anything, then you score But that's the rule, right? That's how you score, you lift the flag

I think 6 or 7 meters is possible, you have to stop before But that's clear to me that I'm crazy, I'm far from it, I'm drunk at the bench, I know, I saw that there are requests. The guy takes a long time. So I think we have to invest more in our football. In Gramado, right? In Gramado, please. Does that really interfere, brother? It interferes because you see now, I think it was Diniz who said, they went to play there and they said, wow this field is different.

It's because it's good.

We play so much bad field, that going to good field is different.

But you prefer synthetic. I liked the intonation of your voice. But do you prefer synthetic or normal?

Synthetic doesn't exist. It's a basic thing. In all leagues in the world, you can't use synthetic. Only in Brazil you can.

So, everyone is wrong, but you're right.

I see. You, in synthetic, it's very different from soccer. What do you feel? What don't you like?

It's dangerous. It's dangerous. They say it doesn't hurt, but it's ok.

You stay two days in the ice, and then...

Do you feel the grass twisting your feet? For me it's complicated, because I hurt my ankle once, and we'll say, you can see it, but it was on a natural field. But the field was bad and natural. We're not fighting for the field to be only natural. It has to be good.

The field has to be natural and good. All teams have to have a stadium like Itaquera.

It's decided.

So there's no good, synthetic field?

Man, I don't like it.

I don't like it.

Because I remember it like this... I think it's horrible.

In the World Cup, everything is natural. I see that people say, but FIFA authorizes it. For sure. But only in Brazil. To make it more democratic for all clubs to have a football practice stadium. But we're talking about the basics.

That's what makes me a little...

The grass, the floor to be thrown. Now I come here and it can't go and the microphone is bad.

Or there's no table. Yeah. There's be thrown, it's terrible. Now I come here and it can't be flat and the microphone is bad. Yeah, or there's no table.

Yeah, there's no chair, you do it standing up. Today there's no chair.

Yeah, today there's no chair. Let's do...

Wow, it must be really bad to get to a field and say, wow, I would play much better.

But there are good fields. The one from Inter is really good, Davila is really good, Corinthians is the best. There must be more.

What makes Gramado so good? He's cute, he's soft, he's... tell us, man.

It's not the ball, right? No, man, the best example for me is Corinthians. You see that the game is faster, you see that the ball runs more, the grass is good, there's no hole. So, like, there's no little thing, the guy throws the ball to you, you're up, this player always does that, the ball comes to you, it's on the moon, and the guy looks at the field.

Then he hits his foot like this, you know?

He's like, that little peak.

Then, it was the field. There's no excuse for a good field, it's your foot. I got it.

So, in the synthetic, there's still an excuse.

It's bad.

Bad field is bad field.

Corinthians' field is good. I'll just say a rule. Take the guy who does Corinthians. Do it in all the Brazilian fields. CBF helps the teams that don't have conditions. The teams that do it too.

Mineirão is good, dude

Mineirão is good So, improve, Campos

No synthetic, please

It's good that the player won't have excuses More and more, the player will have less excuses He made a mistake because he's bad He made a mistake because... I was watching... I don't even want to... I think he won, he won

I don't want to give the credit of going to the finals to that. But I was watching the game... I don't remember who was the semifinalist that did it with Palmeiras. The guys took a shot and came back to Palmeiras' stadium. 5-0. Bro, I was watching and I said, the guys don't know how to walk in this field. Was it weird? No, the kid, Alan, from Palmeiras, he would take the ball and go forward, but no one would catch him

The ball is too fast No, total shit from Palmeiras for me For sure, but you saw the difference here It's different You're going to say it's not, oh it's that good. Only Brazil can do it, bro. I'm kidding, stop teasing me. Only Brazil can do it.

It's weird, right?

Weird. But speaking of Brazil, World Cup, what are you thinking? Do you have expectations? What are the winds of the World Cup?

I think Brazil has great chances. But do you see yourself in the squad? No.

Really? You don't see yourself? No

But if you do a crazy 6 months

No, I don't think so

Really?

If the Libertadores were to end I don't think I've done it No, I don't think so But I think I can be very well served by being a forward

Do you think our Ney can make it to the World Cup?

He has, right?

He has Yes, there is. There is. I also think there is. Do you think that if he has a leg amputated, we should call him? No, you got it, I was being too much. Mercy. But I'm this guy, I think that if Neymar has only his trunk, you should take him.

Yes, yes.

I got what you mean.

No, Neymar can't walk. I think he has to be there, bro.

In the group, right? I think there are 26 players.

He has to be playing.

There are 26 players. There are 26 players in the world cup.

It increased by 3.

None of the 26 will be better than him.

Only the trunk. Only the trunk. His presence I think he has to be well, it's obvious I think he will be I see this improvement in him

And have patience, calm down

His final stretch was really cool

It was clear that he improved Now he will have to operate But it's a very small thing Very small So I talk to him directly So he said that soon he will be back.

And there are 6 months left. Calm down. TikTok guys, calm down. Don't go fast. Calm down.

Calm down, bro.

Calm down. I understand.

But I'm a little tense for this cover.

Me too, but I wanted to...

Do you know what I have a lot of hope for? I'm a big fan. I have to say it now.

Please.

Hendrik.

Hey!

Hey, Xabi Alonso, pay attention, man. If we get a draw in São Paulo, the bugger will be...

It will be crazy for him.

He was the kid who was going to play, man. I was really sad, but I was really sad. I'm a big fan of him. I'm a big fan of him. I'm mad when he says, let the boy play a little bit. What do you think this is?

For me, as I said, there's a way to deal with things. Chabalon, if he plays here in São Paulo, he's going to get beaten up. That's a fact. But the way he deals with things is what I like. You don't see him unmotivated.

You don't see him...

And he's 18, right?

You don't see him like, let's go to the next one. I see myself in him.

But you can see a sadness in his eyes.

Ok, ok. But I think he's ready. I think he's going to Lyon now. He's going to lie down and roll. You can see it in his eyes. That he's like, bro...

Just give me a chance, man.

He decided a championship at 17. That comeback of Palmeiras on top of Botafogo. If it's not that game he took... He said, give me the ball, dad. He scored three goals, He's a great player. I'm a big fan of him.

What happens?

I think he's the guy I like to see playing the most.

He's not playing, but when he's playing, I say, I'm going to see him play. It looks like he plays with anger.

Yeah.

Why do you think the coach holds Hendrick Davido?

I was going to tell you.

Is it the game system? He's also a bench for Mbappé, it's awesome. It's awesome, right? Just like I'm a bench for Caio Jorge.

But let the boy play.

But we're looking at it like this. We watch football and understand a little bit. Okay, Mbappé really has to play. But when Rayo Valecano, Mbappé has already played 19 games. It has to be Fominha, when it was my time. I know, but I'm saying that Mbappé also leaves, but it seems that only Hendrik doesn't have the opportunity. Everyone has the opportunity, but Hendrik doesn't.

We're turning into commentators like the guys are there. How do you know? And the coach?

Hendrik. And the coach's idea? Tell us, Hendrik. I need to say this, I'm a big fan of him.

I think he's going to the World Cup. I hope so. I hope so. It would be amazing. If he beats Lyon in these months, for sure.

And Estevão?

You're talking about a...

Damn, man!

Phenomenon.

Phenomenon.

I thought these guys didn't exist anymore. Estevão, Rodrigo, Rodrigo, I'm a fan. People don't care, but Rodrigo plays a lot of ball. He's the only one in Real Madrid that does all the functions. No one plays in Real Madrid with the Brazilian team, and it's bad. They're the bad ones.

They say it's bad? My God.

João Pedro, who's in Chelsea. I like him too. I like naughty players. You know? Naughty players.

I met him in Matuê, at a show in Rio. I was like, this is our 9!

You know? He's a player.

Naughty! Yeah, he's a good player.

Who is more naughty?

I need to take Iro Alberto to hell.

He's very right. He's very nice, very coherent. He's a god above all.

He's a god.

He's going to do something.

He's going to get drunk one day and wake up the next day and say,

what the fuck happened?

He's just training football. He's missing a training session. He was on the street. He's crazy. I like him a lot. And God! Take a picture in a training session, say that you were on the street. You're crazy, you know?

I like him a lot, man.

He's my partner.

This one was good too. You're kidding, right? Yuri came to talk to me after I lost the penalty.

I told him, congratulations. Did he talk to you? Yes. He said, don't be like that. I said, thanks, congrats. Then he created a great narrative that I congratulated him because I wanted him to win.

It's awesome, right?

No, fuck, bro. What the fan has to understand, and also, the media understands, but the fan has to understand, I understood this a little older, and I also just understood because I'm in contact with it too. Who hates it is us, us, who are fans. And in the day too, because everyone has a lot of friends from Palmeiras, São Paulo, Curitiba. And we hate at that moment.

But the guys play football, they see each other since childhood. Since they were 11 years old, they know each other and face each other. Do you think they're not friends? Do you think he won't... Make fun of the other or congratulate him? Or he'll come and say, congratulations, because you won. The other day Hugo sent me a message. He's your friend? He's my friend. He said, one had to lose.

If I score, it was Yuroberto's fault. The pick was his.

His pick.

So he told me, what's a shame, but you know, take care of yourself. So, there's no reason to pretend we're not friends, I talk to a lot of players from other teams.

Just like the reverse of that, you win and send a message to the other player.

How many times did I win and the other guy was my friend, I sent him a message the other day. You're going to do better. I won too, and another guy was my friend, and I sent him a message the other day I was like, I'll be fine, and stuff And another thing, I'm sorry to inform you, but I'm going to lose more penalties

You will, right?

I'm going to do all of them It must be bad to lose penalties, right?

Holy shit, it must be the worst sadness in the world

I was the one who lost the few Even worse, right? You're not used to it. I don't know what that is. Now I know. Diego Rivas sent me a message. He's from Flamengo, he lost that penalty in the middle. So I asked him, how are you?

I said, I'm not doing well. He said, I'm good, it happened to me. I said, now it's my turn. He laughed a lot.

It happens.

But it's the backbone of the thing, right?

It's the onus.

Yeah, because when you lose a goal, what do you think? My God, the crowd wants to kill me. The team is...

Man, it must be crazy what want to kill me at the moment, I'll go.

You have a well-treated mind. Do you do therapy, Gabigol?

I do.

That's why I'm seeing this...

This evolution, right?

A well-evolved guy, like, let's go to the next one. I made a mistake and I go to do with this. I don't have anything to do. Let's go. And it will happen again.

Because at some point I will make a mistake again. And at some point you will be champion again. That's it. Let's go to the next one.

You have to do it to deserve it.

I was happy.

With what? With all of this.

You thought I was sick?

You thought I was sick. He came to me and said, what's up, how are you?

I said, I'm good. You're always good. I said, I'm good. Were you worried?

I went to talk to a friend.

I was really worried. He was already booked. But he wasn't booked before. People think that... Really, Gabigol lost the penalty because he wanted to see me.

That's fucked up.

Stop with the fucking Míndico.

I'm not playing the final because I want to see Míndico.

I want to go there.

I'm crazy to say that I won't go.

Because he's closed with another team.

For sure. You're stupid at this level. What the fuck, man? Respect us. But I was really worried, because we are friends and you see things going from point to point. Like I said, I understand the fans. They will get mad, but that's it. The year starts and you are the champion of Minas Gerais. Forget about it.

Forget about it, but of course I'll always be mad. Like I said, there are a lot of people for that penalty. The nutritionist, who helped me a lot, the guy from the gym, the cook's aunt. There are a lot of people for a penalty. And I missed it.

The saddest person in the world will always be the one who misses. So, it happens. It happens and it will happen again.

Because I will hit again and I can say that I made a mistake.

But it's really cool because I see you always calling for responsibility, for good or bad. You reserve the starting line-up, you're here, you don't hide. And we miss that. Once again, people hit the key that we miss people keep saying that. But I don't get it. When there is, people criticize.

So in 2026 we'll see Gabigol fucking up Cruzeiro.

That's it.

Up, son.

You're confident, right?

I'm confident, I'm confident. We have a great year. Of course we have some time until the second day, so we can talk and everything. But as I said, my show is on the second day, I'll be there training and dedicating myself. This first week of vacation I was more off, but on Monday I'll be back to train more, to take care of myself more. And then it doesn't stop anymore. That's right, it's awesome, bro.

And now, with this stretch in the calendar, did it go crazy? But I think I liked it.

Dude, it's true.

Because now there was that thing in the middle of the year, 15 days. Did it do well? I liked it, man. So it's 15 days in the middle of the year and 15 days at the end of the year.

It's less time for us to rest, of course,

but we also lose a lot less than stopping 30 days in a row. Because when you stop for 30 days, you come back more. Yes, you come back more. Like now, I stayed 7 days, it will be Sunday, 7 days, and on Monday we start planning training to come back well. With a week, do you already feel a difference? Without training, for example? I think it's routine.

It's very strange to wake up and say, like...

Man, I'm not going to train.

I'm going to play a video game now. I always wake up at 7am in BH. I woke up at 8.30am, 9am, and I was like,

Man, that's weird.

Very good. Then you go to the bathroom, and there's no need to take a shower, I can take a shower easily. I'll have lunch, lunch is at 1pm, I don't have a diet schedule. You can have lunch and go to the simulator, you don't have to train.

That's it.

That's good for the mind, it relaxes.

Very good. I always take at least a week to be in good shape. Then on Monday I start my training and diet routine. But does the calendar mess up your schedule? It does, because it's not normal to play on Sunday and Wednesday. I was watching the Corinthians final against Vasco, and they played really well, unlike Vasco, who had run. But of course it makes a difference.

I think the next game, now as there are more days to recover, it may be that both teams are much better, you know? Physically.

And another one, it's the last game of the year, how many?

Wow!

70, 60 games? Is the first Podpie the same as the last of the year?

No.

So, it's like that.

It's not.

It's not. It's not. Because you're here, right, brother?

Roberto Carlos.

You're being serious.

You're our Roberto Carlos, man.

He has to come from Papai Noel.

Next year, or Terno Azul.

I'll come from Terno Azul next year.

And legs of wood, are you kidding me?

What is this, man?

Where is it, man? I'm gonna talk to Timba to get me a blue shirt next time. Please, but next time, like DJ Mocó. The shoulder pad, right? The shoulder pad, so you can stay. But I can't put a little bit of my... Your sauce? Of my sauce?

Of course you can, of course you can.

Speaking of which, here for you. Wow, it's a shirt? This is mine and Gé's. Oh, that's cool, man. I'm gonna play this one on vacation. Wow! It's awesome.

Damn!

Where can you find it?

On Instagram. And there's the store's website too.

Predestinado Company.

And there's...

Wow, look at this one, man.

It's hot, huh?

It's really hot.

It was me and Je that drew it. This one is from Zipper, that's crazy.

Je is a really cool guy, you made a really cool friendship. He's my partner, we're always together. We were together on Monday.

Thank you, bro.

And then we made this collab.

And I brought it to you. I'm going to use it a lot.

Our collab, of course.

It's the new one.

A gift. What an honor.

It's the 2 with Oakley.

You're going to use it in the afternoon, right?

Tomorrow afternoon I'm going to be like...

You know, Alex.

And this one comes with two lenses, ok?

You can choose how you're going to be. How do you guys want me to go? I think it depends on your look. Black, black. Timba already said it's black. There's the bluish lens and the red lens.

You can see if you want to be hotter or colder.

I like the red one better.

Yeah, I like the red one better, but it's blue. Got it? Got it, Gabigol? Respect, you can go, bro.

I'll be there tomorrow. What about you, Camizuno? We're still here. The trip to Japan was great. Now we're here to launch the stuff.

It should be out soon.

Remember your friends. Do you have any doubts about that?

No, you're a cyclist.

But look at this.

Holy shit, bro.

You're beautiful, man. Even bald? Even bald.

You cut your hair because of your cover? You do the guy's hairstyle.

I think Gabigol is mad.

I think Gabigol is at home, he's here in the team. Fuck, change the hairstyle.

Change the hairstyle now.

Pink hair.

Son of a bitch, did the braid. Change, change.

No, I had big bitch, do the braid, change it, change it. No, I had a lot of hair, doing the braid, then I got sick of the big hair, with the braid,

then I dyed it blonde, now I'm bald, I don't know.

I liked it, man.

I liked it.

Smooth?

Smooth. You look like a... I'm a bad boy. My mom doesn't like it. Bad face. My mom doesn't like it. She only likes the little boxes. You're a bad boy.

She said I look like a bad boy.

You look like a bad boy. It's cool.

Did you like it?

It's nice.

Does your mom like the little boxes? Or does she like the blonde forgets? I think she likes the little boxes more. My mom is like that too. Hi mom, how are you? I've been growing for a year now. God bless you. Thank you.

Maísa.

Buy the collaboration of our friends Trappers, Jesse Santiago and Lil Gaby.

Before anything else, how is Lil Gaby's life? How is the musical part of this album?

Are we going to negotiate now?

Can we go to the record label?

Yes! You saw that there is a studio waiting for you

I didn't know it yet

And we will have music shows too

And we are negotiating We are with with Je Je is with me And we will sample some songs from Timaya

With authorization? We got the authorization First of all, I am a big fan of Timaya I The guy opened the team's catalog. And now me and Gé are going to see the sample and I hope it's here.

It will be here then.

Wow.

Is it possible?

Wow.

I already said that if you want, I'll leave here and present you and Mithko.

No, let's talk about it, because it's the son of Team Maya who released it.

Very cool, man.

So thank him, obviously, because otherwise we wouldn't be able to do this.

But what do you want to do? Is it a project?

It's a project. For now it's a project. We don't know if it's going to be an EP. We'll see collaborations so we can do it. But I'm sure it's going to be me and Je.

That's awesome. Gé is really excited about it. Gé is really good. He's the right guy. I want to play with him too.

I want to play with him too. Have you ever talked to Matuê about it? No, not yet. It's a very early project. Not a project, but a song. A song? Yes, bro.

It's hard to talk to him, right? But yes, yes. He's a guy I'm a big fan of. Can't you even talk to him? Sometimes when I go to his shows, we exchange a lot of ideas. But lately I haven't talked to him that much.

He's weird, right?

He's very weird. He's going to a concert I want to see his new songs on his concert He hasn't had any yet, he only sings a few

He's doing a concert

What is Matheus drinking? Did you see his physique?

He's broken

He's drinking a lot of juice

It's not possible

Matheus, tell us Besides the Jamba, what else do you do?

He must be doing some business, he's handsome.

The other day I saw him and Zé Roberto training together.

I believe.

Zé Roberto is also stolen. And he's not pure, right?

I don't know what it is, but I went to a charity game, and that day, for the kids, You were running faster than me? No, I was running, I got scared before.

What?

I was in the locker room.

Did you see the play?

I saw it too, but that's not what I was going to talk about. You were there, changing. I was in the club, you saw me changing clothes. I was going to the locker room, getting ready, waiting. I was with my backpack, showing my dick to no one.

Ok.

Zé Roberto took his shorts off to start changing. Wow. I'm not kidding. His leg was cut in nine. You were looking at your leg. I'm I'm gonna do the court to inovation

It's a vanilla pepper

And we're gonna pull out I'm gonna miss you. Don't come in a bowl of senora for a sit. I come in this one. No, no

No, I mean a novel. No, I mean a little inexplicable. No, I'm a

school sports a degree nearly 4 It's inexplicable. He's so massive. I asked him how much fat he was, and he said 4.

And it keeps going down.

Bizarre.

You're a monster. Giga was checking your thighs.

I did.

He knows, I told him.

I know he knows.

And the guys are kidding. Who goes away without taking a shower?

Really? Is that a joke?

I don't know. In the club, people take a shower. You have to take a shower. But, bro, some guys played... I won't say who it was, but some guys played ball with us. And left...

Say one, then.

I won't say. Just one.

Who? It's from the country. He left without taking a shower. I don't know if it's because he's shy, because it's that shower without a cabin. It's that champion shower.

A lot of statues.

And the guys talk normally. Go there, family. Stop, I don't know what.

It's not possible.

And the cool thing is that the one with the best statue is the first one. No!

The guy with the...

What's up?

What's up?

What's up?

You can see that the ones who get the most good are the ones who have the most clumsy pieces. Then you say, wow, it's not possible, it's f***ed up.

Sorry, Gabigol, but we're not used to this world.

It's true.

We take a lot next time, bro. Of course not, you're crazy. It's awesome, right, Gabigol? Gabigol, do you think you're a father? Out of nowhere, just to change the subject?

Where is he, brother? It's my dream, bro.

My dream.

Only Gabrielzinho? Wow.

I admit you want to be a father too, right?

I want to. One day I...

It was supposed to be, but... How old? 35. It was supposed to be, but... How old are you? 35 It was supposed to be

Really? You?

29

We have one more year

We have one more year?

We have one more year

It's true what you said, right? No grandpa, no boy

No, grandpa is awesome

I'm afraid of becoming a grandpa

Grandpa is awesome The kid running and I'm like Go girl, go get your dad And I'm with my back hurting Go for it, son! Go get your dad and Lucas Costa! It hurts so bad!

No, dad and grandpa is awesome!

We have one more year and you...

Let's go, son!

I'm trying, but it's complicated!

I know, man! The first girl you see now, you have to be her!

You chose, go for it!

I'm having a baby today! Damn, man! In the afternoon you might meet a lot of cool people.

You too, right?

Let's go!

Hey, Thiaginho, we're going for you.

You're going to be in the video.

We're going for Thiaginho.

I'm going to say hi to Thiaginho. Let's go, right?

Let's go.

Only if he sings that... Damn, that's really good. If he sings that phrase... I'll get drunk.

No, in a little while.

It's hard not to get drunk in a little while. He sings for 7 hours. Even if you don't want to. Tiaguinho, enough! Let's go! Even if you don't want to... They have to get him off the stage. Tiaguinho, enough! Let's go! As much as you don't want to, it's...

It's already dawn, it's late, there's no wind. It's already dawn, get out.

7 o'clock on... 5 o'clock, if you're not drunk... No, 7 o'clock is already falling, bro. Let's go, let's go, let's go. In Rio, they told me he stayed for 7 hours. Oh my God. He's a Brazilian music hero.

7 hours of playing. How can you not get drunk? Not even during the work trip. Then there's going to be a headline like Gabigol, the legendary Igao, going out drunk in the afternoon. But it's obvious.

7 hours listening to the guy sing. We were also working on a plan. Now we have to understand that we're there's no way. 7 hours listening to a guy sing. Bro, we were working on a plan. Now we have to understand that we're there for something else.

There's no way.

The last party of the year is in the afternoon. So, let's go?

You didn't go to my birthday.

It's complicated.

It's work. We're here 24 hours a day.

Almost like me, we always have a date. In August, at the end of August. But we were in the United States for your birthday.

Oh, so, ok.

Ok, next year we'll call and we'll go.

Ok.

I swear.

Next year.

On Saturday?

It's awesome, right? This year it was Nathanzinho Lima and Will. Wow. When it was Will's turn, when it was Will's turn, that was going to fall, bro.

Why?

Because everyone was very happy, right?

I wanted to be in that environment. I imagine it was pretty cool, right?

Very cool.

It's his birthday and it's not cool. Have you ever been to one? I've been to one and I went to sleep on the Uber. Oh my God! But it's a party time. Yeah, a lot of time.

A lot of party time.

I saw Pericles singing, dancing, sitting like this.

It was sensational. It was a historical birthday.

Mítico made a mess with Léo Pereira.

It was awesome.

It wasn't a mess.

It was just a little misunderstanding. It was just. It wasn't a joke. No, it was just a little misunderstanding. A little push.

Yeah, it was just a little...

No, a lot of things happened. It was really cool.

I smoked a nargile with Vidal.

You know, man.

Nargile, right?

Was there a nargile there?

There was.

Vidal had one. Vidal took one out of his pocket. I can hear it there. Now that he's gone, I can talk about him. Vidal smoked Narguilinho.

Vidal is one of the best guys I've ever played with. Really? What a phenomenon. He likes it, drinks, plays, trains, and enjoys it. Drinks, plays, champion.

Moicano.

Moicano, blond, red.

Next year, let's be at Gabigol's birthday?

If everything goes well, yes. If we're not traveling, or if it's a birthday on a date

that we're going to be working on.

On a Saturday, because sometimes it's Monday and on Monday we're here, at the office. But I'm going to go crazy at Gabigol. It was in São Paulo this year, bro. It was much closer for you. Where will it be next year? It's awesome, right? We have BH's friend, Rio's friend, São Paulo's friend.

It's centralizing, right? São Paulo, because it's easier for everyone to get there. Good. It's awesome, man. We make some great friends. They just send me messages like,

Come to my birthday party! But, Manaus?

How am I going from Nara to Santa Catarina?

I really wanted to, bro.

I really wanted to, but I thought you invited me as if I was on the street. It's really awesome. I can't believe it.

I'm singing jeans.

Ludmilla sends an invitation, come here, Rio Grande do Sul.

I wanted to help.

Nathan sent an invitation to his show. I said, I think I can go. He sent me a message, he sent me a message, he sent me a message, he sent me a message, he sent me a message, he sent me a message, he sent me a message, he sent me a message, he sent me a message, he sent me a message, he sent me a message, he sent me a message, he sent me a message, he sent me a message, he sent me a message, he sent me a message, he sent me a message, he sent me a message, he sent me a message, he sent me a message, he sent me a message, he At least the one who calls, calls. Enough of casinos. I'm just going to go where Alexandre... Go fuck yourself, I'm not going to say that. Did you like to exchange this idea on Pod de Paca with us? Always. Thank you.

Thank you, Roberto Carlos.

I'm just going to put the flowers here. Next time we'll prepare. I'm coming from Terno Azul. Next time he has to come from International, end of 2026. Next year I'm here, losing a penalty, winning, being a vice, being a champion, without a club, even more bald. I became a singer, I quit football.

I'll be there. But from the bottom of my heart, thank you so much, brother. I think you're one of the most important athletes in our football today and you're always here, you say you'll come and you open up your life's backstage for your fans for the fans as well so this is awesome, thank you so much

we get really sad get out of your vacation to talk about this because we love you, right?

For sure, you're crazy

Thank you so much Thank you guys, once again I'm gonna say I'm a huge fan, I like it a lot. I saw that the house grew and it wasn't little. Now it grew, but it can't be more, right?

For now, no.

I hope not, it's going to cost a lot, right? Congratulations, it's really fucking awesome.

Thank you.

And, man, fuck, next year I'm here again.

Amen.

Amen. Amen.

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Tuesday, right, Mitch?

Tuesday?

Monday, Lívia Rafaela's Paquera and...

Huh?

Tuesday, a new show. So, don't wait... The myth that said he wouldn't say it, but it's from Brino.

You don't wait to not wait, man. You don't wait to wait. This new show has a new host, Brino, and we're together, ok?

It's us, guys.

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