He's mad about me. Oh, so Hassan is mad about me. What is this? It's pretty wild for him to say that I mean it's a wild position for him in particular to say why? Considering you know, what is he saying? The org that he was a part of and how much How many people had to leave the organization?
Do you know why they had to leave? It's because I was one of the people that made that decision. And at the time that I had to decide whether I was going to support something like that or not, I made the best decision possible. At least at the time. That's why a lot of them aren't part of it anymore. I think this argument defeats itself.
But I guess they're American citizens so it's appropriate. There's no reason why any... Who got convicted of rape? Oh that's right, nobody. Oh, right, okay so this is a comparison with something that didn't happen. Okay. Anybody should be supporting that.
I think, yeah, that... Like, Guy's biggest dick rider is, uh... Guy's biggest dick rider and only remaining bestie is Rape Tone.
Who is...
I can understand why Tectone and Hassan don't like each other. They tweet about each other a lot. They say a lot of negative stuff about each other. lot. They say a lot of negative stuff about each other. Hasan has said a lot of bad stuff about Tektone. Tektone said a lot of bad stuff
about Hasan. Here's the difference. The things that Hasan is criticizing Tektone for are on camera is seemingly a generational rapist like not even not that's right because Tectone's dad had some sort of like weird fucking thing happen by the way what the fuck does his dad have to do with any of this like I don't even understand the logic here why are we even talking about Tectone's dad it's weird
generational literal original scent yeah like like tectone was It's what a weird thing to say
Then has he been credibly accused
By former well, I didn't say credibly accused I said convicted Has he been convicted has he even gone to trial? The answer to both of those questions are no. Which is one of the reasons why I don't know why... See, this is what I find to be funny. Is that... and I get that Tectone and Hasan are way more aggro at each other than I am.
Right? I'm not really very... I'm critical of Hassan, but I'm not like as aggro as he is with Tectone. But the difference is that you probably shouldn't have been calling him a rapist before he got convicted to be a rapist, unless you have some sort of like, you know, insider information that nobody else knows about that proves it. And in which case, please provide that to the authorities so appropriate action can be taken.
But I don't think that you do. So whenever you're reading something like this, and you automatically make a decision, and you're telling your viewers, you have a lot of viewers, okay? He does, he does. A lot of people watch us on you should not be telling all these people that a person who was accused of this is a rapist you
shouldn't be doing this it's a mistake I don't know why you do this now I I don't want to get involved because I know Tectone has said a lot of bad stuff about Hassan I get it but all I'm saying is that I think it's pretty unfair, if you look at it from my perspective, that all of these allegations and everything, you're trying to compare them with a conviction. It's just not the same thing. That's it. That's all there is to it. It's literally just not the same thing. That's it. That's all there is to it.
It's literally just not the same thing.
But also, his dad apparently was such a prolific sexual assaulter that his sexual-
Why the fuck are you talking about his dad? What does this have to do with anything? Really, like what is this? Like why are we even talking about his dad?
...assaults were codified in the American Congress. In the American Congressional Records.
Like... in the American congressional records Like
What is Tectone's dad have to do with this I Don't get this at all Crazy and that's I mean what should be done in that situation. I Am NOT an advocate For capital punishment it's just wild to me that like he has this kind of attitude here for some reason but he doesn't have the same energy for people that he knows because they weren't convicted and you
shouldn't be calling them as if they did the things that they're being accused of. And I think he's really like, I mean, this is the thing. I mean, this is honest advice to Hassan. The fact is, and this is the case with me too, we are getting into a position where he and I are both very, very successful in our careers.
He is very successful and I think that I am too. That is also a problem because people will see people like us say something and they will try to dissect it and figure out a way that they can sue us. Hassan needs to watch out by saying this random stuff and going off and coming up with these names about people and saying this stuff,
because eventually you're gonna run yourself into a defamation lawsuit. And it doesn't matter how many Twitter orbiters you have and how many people you ban and chat, whenever you're sitting there in the courtroom being accused of defamation or lying about
somebody, it's not going to matter whether there's a genocide going on. It's not going to matter whether, you know, what his dad did. It's not going to matter any of these other bullshit accusations. What's going to matter, really, is Zionist. Is, oh, this person took money from Israel or something it's ridiculous and you're gonna like and I think really he should look at like really I mean you know he will not admit this publicly but take a step back and think about it you know
do you think that you handled the dog collar thing very well I think the answer to that probably is no you you really didn't. And I think that the way that you've dragged it on and everything else, you've brought other people into it as well, this has not helped you. And it's been bad. And I think that one of the reasons why is because it seems very clear to me that Hassan is unable to accept any degree of fault, ill behavior,
mistake, even a very small one. And I think that what that's going to do in a long enough timeline is it's going to get him into a lot of trouble. Right now it's just some bullshit internet drama, He shocked his dog. Memes. The memes are funny. He knows they're funny. Everybody knows they're funny.
If you keep doing this and saying this stuff about people, eventually you're going to run into a problem legally. I think it's obvious and he should know that. I don't know why he's doing this. He's setting himself up to fail for no reason. And it will happen. It will eventually happen for sure.
Given a long enough timeline. You've got to stop making shit up about people. This platform is too big. There's too many people that watch him. You live in a multi-million dollar house. You've got a big target on your back, man.
And I'm not talking about weirdos trying to like attack you. Nobody supports that. It's disgusting. I ban people in my chat for even implying that. But what I am saying is that there is a monetary legal target on your back You need to watch out for that
You're setting yourself up to fail for no reason there's no reason you need to do this I Don't know why he does this. I really don't. Why do you care about him so much? I mean, I'm not caring about it. I just I'm listening to it.
I hear I hear what he's saying. Like we have a lot of mutual friends. And also like the thing is that there's a number of things with Hassan that I agree with Hassan on. Like with a lot of economic things I agree with him on. It's disappointing to see these like weird partisan wedge issues effectively turn people that have in a lot of cases symbiotic goals into enemies. It didn't
have to be like this. It doesn't have to be like this. There's no reason for it to be like this. It's unnecessary. It's counterproductive and it's destructive. And eventually it will destroy him. And I think that's a sad thing It is that's where I'm at I don't I don't have any I don't have anything negative to say about him personally I mean, I will say this about Hassan, right? I do not think that Hassan is a horrible person Dog thing is a separate. I
Don't think that he is the reason why Hassan has been making content for 10 years. Over 10 years. There have never been a lot of really, really bad controversies about him. There have never been a lot of really bad leaks about bad things that he's done. Most of the bad things that he's done, he's done on camera. And I'm coming at this from the perspective of a content creator.
And I think that a lot of content creators, over time, will eventually get exposed. They will eventually have somebody say that this person said this thing that was bad behind closed doors, Hasan has been in this space for about as long as I have, you know, give or take. And in the same way that I say look at me, look at the amount of bad interactions that I've had with other people, other twitlongers that people have had, etc. On a personal level, I'm not talking about his viewpoints and his politics,
I'm talking about on a personal level how he interacts with other people. I don't think that Hasan is a bad person. I do not think that. I just wish he wouldn't act this way. It's unnecessary. It doesn't have to be- it does not have to be like this. That's my viewpoint. I know that you guys might not see it the way that I do, but My perspective on this is probably a little bit different because the way that I see it is through the lens of a content creator and
So I'm contrasting this with other content creators Does that make sense? Voice bound streams, audience, boy I'm awful at audience, be shit we all know it. Sure, right, but I'm just saying like in terms of personal, like interpersonal problems. That's something that I, that's something that I have a very, very... One thing that I've learned is that people that have problems everywhere they go...
I wonder why. So yeah. All I'm saying is that I don't need to criticize a person's opinions, and then turn that into a personal attack. There's no need for me to do that. It's unnecessary.
Um, it's destructive, it's- it's not not productive and I think it's off message I try to stay on message as much as I can I think that I make mistakes everybody does but you're gonna keep making mistakes until you realize it So that's it
You can saw him will use this to twist your words he can say whatever he wants it doesn't matter
Like it's it's still that's still what I think
It's called for bought in us to people many times it's different well, I'm talking about like, and I just, I don't know, like I... I think people just get on the internet and they just say things, they get gassed up by their fucking audience and they just say stupid stuff. Like, I understand that people might not like that answer, and it doesn't, I'm not, I'm not hand-waving it and saying it's okay, but I'm not taking it seriously because I think that's the way that people do. I think Frogan is like that, for example. I don't think Frogan is a horrible person.
I just think that she gets in her fucking room, sitting there getting gassed up by her 60 or 50 or 100 viewers, and it just turns people into the worst versions of themselves. That's what I think. I genuinely believe that. I think that most people can generally get along. And whenever you sit inside of an echo chamber of people that tell you that you're right about everything, and you never listen to anybody else's perspective, all of your friends are exactly the same, everybody says the same things that you do,
I think that is a radicalizing force and it makes people more extreme. But that's not a default. And I think that you can move people away from that default very quickly. What's the next clip? Is there another one? I don't know if there's another one.
Come out against me. Oh my god. Is it another one against me. Oh my god. Is it another one against me? This is the same thing that I I can guarantee you already. This is absolutely every single thing that he's going to say about me. People are also going to say about him. And you know what? They're all right. They're right when they say it about me. and they're right when they say it about you.
Let's listen and find out.
Zach is always copying your language, always using the words in the wrong places, but it won't matter until someone like a big streamer said, Take one minute to go and undermine the streamer right now, and 10x more people would nip it in the bud than the few starting it. Every smear has the potential to slow down or stagger progression. What do you mean Yeah, no big streamer is ever going to come out and be like asmongold is ridiculous for saying these sorts of things
I'm, I don't know. I mean people have criticized plenty of things that i've said
I'm going to tell you exactly why they won't
This is going to be the exact reason why people won't criticize him by the way, get ready. I think you already know, because every fucking big streamer who actually opposes his worldview are utterly fucking terrified of his audience. Okay, that's it. They're 100% terrified of his audience, because his fan base does not have any fucking they don't have any any
restraint they've real
You didn't have to do this to yourself
Um, so I'm on break at work right now, so I look kind of chopped but Hassan Piker fans are actually rabid animals my dms are full of people threatening you didn't have to do this why would you do this to yourself calling me amber heard as an insult saying that i am uh why would you do this and i'm being paid by youtubers that i also hate
it's crazy that i called out hassan and she's obviously talking about me by the way. She's obviously talking about probably me and Ethan. And maybe also Baldi. Tourism and misogyny and being basically
a passport bro and I've got people calling me like a conservative in my DMs and just saying I'm spreading propaganda and that even if he did these things, we still need him as the face of the left. But yeah, Hasan fans straight up got me demonetized. And this is coming from someone that used to be subbed to Hasan. I was giving that millionaire money because I was an idiot. So, um, yeah, maybe let's cool it with the racist threats because I don't really think that's helping with the misogyny allegations
that would be great if you could stop threatening to murder me. And for the most part Hassan is not necessarily responsible for what his audience does unless he's telling them to do this this is just a this is an outcome of having a community built around talking about extremely volatile, extremely serious issues. And the reason why I don't want to blame Hasan is because I don't want people to blame me. Because anything you can say about him, you can say about me too.
This is the thing, is that he's right about this, but he's the he this is the pot calling the kettle black
This is the same thing Because this fan base does not have any fucking they don't have any any restraint they've realized that they can just like go after anyone and everyone and Name them shame them sm them, take clips out of context, constantly yell at them.
An example of this not happening, by the way, recently was with Rae. I was not rude to her at all. I'm sure that there were people in my audience that were rude, and I find that to be disappointing. And if I find out that they were doing that in a way that was ungentlemanly you might end up getting permabanned because it's just it's not something that I want to see people do but I think that's a good example right off the bat like I mean that was literally a few days ago I
don't take it personally at all. In their chats, go to all the other, go to every other chat and demand that the other streamers talk about this new victim in the crosshairs, you know? So that is the reason. I did this.
That is the reason why no one will actually come out
and oppose
any of his viewpoints even if they quietly oppose it that's the same thing with him
and it's not just as men goal to be fair it's not just as men goal at all there are plenty of other like there's a bunch of kick streamers that do the same shit too. It just doesn't really matter. And I mean, look, I'm one of the very few people out there who does actually oppose a lot of streamers when they do fuck shit.
And that's good. I think that's totally fine. I don't have a single problem with Hassan giving his take and giving his opinion and disagreeing with what I'm saying or what anybody else is saying. I think that's his right and I think that's a good thing. And it's important to have people that disagree with you in spaces so that way it keeps you sharp as well. I don't have a daily fucking basis.
I am one of the only people that has not gone out and like hyper condemned Hasan for the fucking dog thing. I haven't. And if you go back through all the VODs and everything, I have never gone out and like gone and been like oh He's such a horrible person. I can't believe he's done this. He's using his friends. I never have done that Now I've laughed at the jokes and I've covered the controversy
But I've never really condemned him and the reason why is because I don't really know what's going on I'm not a hundred percent sure and I don't want to do that. Essentially betrays the opposite. No, it's okay. It's not a big deal. But I do farm people. I do. I do absolutely do that. And I'm sure he might be a little bit upset about the dog stuff. And listen, if he can go back to what I said, and I even predicted what was going to happen to him before he went live the first day of this controversy. I said that it would not matter what he did and what he said people would have already made up their mind that he was guilty. And I was right.
I mean it sure seems like there's some other clips that that look kind of bad right? But at the same time people already made up their mind they did they had already made up their mind it didn't matter what what he had shown on that stream it would have it would have still been something else so yeah and he's got the I mean some of the clips do definitely look bad now right but at the time I didn't know that and nobody knew that so
just he's made up his mind about techecton allegations. I mean I yeah I mean I obviously know more about it right? It's about disagreeing with animal abuse, usually trying to dissuade people to make up other shit without the genocide. I don't know about that. So yeah and the fake care about the dog is so far as people act like he beat the dog and shot callers use regularly for dog training. I I think that I Think that what people really don't like I mean, I don't know like I mean
It's I I don't want to get into like all the I I'm not a big moralizer I'm not I'm not a big moralizer. It's it's not the It's not I... It's not... I'm just not. Sorry, I'm just... I'm not a big guy like that. Now, if you want to do that, that's totally fine, but it's just not my...
That's not my personality. I'm assuming somebody... Magate being deleted. I don't know if it's people attacking you or talking about Saan either way to be mods Well, it's it's not that big of a deal, right? Do you think it would've been better if it just admitted shocking a dog and say meant to press the vibrate not the shock? I I don't know. I mean like I think you should I mean, I don't know what happened. So it's YouTube comments oh yeah yeah a lot of people are spamming about YouTube etc but yeah that's at least the way I feel about it
just being a little bit stupid about not seeing your point is a content creator that's okay I mean it's a unique perspective that I think that only I and a few of other people would have I can't all I can do is express how I think that only I and a few other people would have. I can't, all I can do is express how I think. I can't tell other people what to think. So that's it, that's all I can do. And so like, I don't really try to worry about it
or get upset about it or fight about it or anything like that. It's just really not a big deal. Riyadh to Hassan, big streamers are afraid of your audience. Oh, yeah, yeah, I just got done watching it. I think it's partially true. I think that obviously a lot of people don't want to come out
and say negative things about me because a lot of people in my audience will be mean to them. And I think that also a lot of people view disagreement as harassment. Like, for example, whenever I disagree with a person and somebody else disagrees with you, that's not necessarily harassment. Somebody telling you that you're wrong or you don't know what you're talking about.
This isn't really harassment. Uh, it's just simply people talking about stuff for whatever reason.
That's it.
You'd be okay for not wanting to moralize or high ground over things, even over Sahn? No, well, no, I mean, I, it's not that I don't like moralizing over things in general. And the reason why is that I think that I do have a very strong moral compass. It just doesn't necessarily point north. Maybe northeast, maybe northwest, maybe even west, maybe even east. But it definitely doesn't port the point directly North like my my perspective on these things it's a
little bit a little bit off right and I'm yeah not South I didn't say South okay but not all the time but yeah and that's that's reason why, is I don't necessarily think that I'm... I don't think that I'm a very good moral authority for certain things. Uh, like my moral, like, foundation for things is a little bit, you know, I think kind of off in some cases. But I think that it being off also gives me insight in ways that other people that are on don't have. So it... I think I'm just different, right, in a way. And
I this isn't like a, oh I'm not like I'm not like everybody else. I'm like, you know, it's like an anime thing. But like I just I think that the way that I think is different than other people and anime thing. But like I just I think that the way that I think is different than other people and there's positives and negatives to that, right? And so yeah.
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