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”I got FIRs for laughing at someone else's joke (India’s Got Latent)….” - Ashish Chanchlani | #169
Prakhar Gupta
Bro, by the way, great apology during the latent time. Best apology of the season.
Sorry, man.
What happened that day?
Latent?
Yes.
Bro, first of all, we were on the show.
How many times have you been to Thailand?
I feel like going now.
Yes.
But...
What was that?
What was that? What was that? When I saw Kaki's Twitter feed for the first time,
I was confused. I didn't want to be a complex storyteller. I just wanted to entertain people.
Bro, by the way,
great apology during the latent time.
Best apology of the latent time.
Best apology of the season.
You were talking about apologizing.
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Get started freeAs soon as it was released, Ashish Chanchlani has said, I have an apology. Please, my fans, support me. I played a great game through this bad time.
What should I do?
I remember Rajpal. What should I do? What should I do? You tell me.
Can I take this off?
Yes, take it off. Keep talking on this mic. You just check the audio. What happened before you did what?
Latent?
Yes.
Bro, look, the first thing is that we were on the show. There have been many more disgusting things than us on the show before.
Okay, Prakhar?
I haven't given you time for justification. No, no. Listen to it. Listen to it. Listen to it. The pot he was filling... ...the pot he was filling against the late-night show... ...he has come and burst it on our episode. That's all. I believe it.
Sure.
100%. It's not like in that episode, many things have happened before and many big people have come. That's when this controversy happened. I think we shot it in November. This was released around February. February 6 or 7. 6 or 7.
5 or 6 or 7.
I was shooting my one giga green screen. My whole spaceship shoot was going on. I was there. So when I finished the whole shoot in the evening, I was in that zone. My brother told me that this late end clip of Ranveer has been exploded on Twitter. On X. So everyone's names are coming. I said I didn't pay so much attention then.
Because all this keeps happening on Twitter. I said okay, we will attack Ranveer. Because he was not expected to say all this.
Sexpected.
What?
He was not expected to say all this. Sexpected. What?
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Get started freeHe didn't expect it. Yes. He will say this.
And when I was there, Ranveer was being cool.
Okay.
He said that he will have fun. He said it in a fun way. I told him during the break. I said, Ranveer, dial down a little. No, you said this him to dial down for this line only? I mean, did it stand out?
Overall, there were a lot of talks. It's not like there were only these talks. So I told him, Ranveer, you don't have time. I am not saying all this. Let's dial down a little. So he was like, no, everybody comes here unhinged. I think he was in a mood for jokes. I don't even think he meant all of that.
Obviously, nobody...
If you meant that, then we need a committee.
The thing is, the thing is, the thing is... Now, the case happened. Okay? Nobody was here. The time was in Paris, I guess. No, it was in the US. It was in the US.
Paji was in Paris. Ranveer went underground. Apurva also went underground. Apoorva also went missing. Bandra side, police only know one person. The one sitting on that panel was me. Police know Papa. Because obviously, they know him from before. I called Papa and told him to come to the police station. We have received an order from above. We want to know what happened. And the police were trying to contact everyone.
No one was answering the phone. Things got heated when CM Fadnavis came to the news and said, that this is wrong. You have to look into it. When the CM says, the police are charged. Because the order comes from above. So they got very angry that why no one is answering the phone.
No one was answering the phone. So I had to be the first person and everyone was advising me that don't go. Don't go, don't go. My dad told me you should go. Because it's their job, you should at least go and tell them what has happened. Maybe they will listen to you. And by God's grace Mumbai police was very good.
They were very nice. They did something like this. So when we were sitting there, funny thing is, we were telling them everything about YouTube. What are the comments on YouTube? On YouTube...
Now it took them 2 hours to explain members only. It took them 2 hours to explain members only.
How much time would have taken to think in code?
What are they? What would have been, what would have been, what would have been, what would have been. Then your whole birth chart comes out. How do you know time? Where did you meet time? I met time in 2022 at K.J. Sona College. Why did you meet?
Is there any affair between you?
For unacademy. What is unacademy?
Who owns unacademy. What is Unacademy? Oh shit! Who is the Unacademy? Gaurav Munjal. Gaurav Munjal is also involved. What? What? What? Okay. When did you get your first cut from Apoorva? I said, sir, I am thinking of Apoorva. Yes, I was on the premiere of Archie's.
Who made Archie's?
Zoya Akhtar.
Zoya Akhtar also involved? They remove everything. So, I have a memory flash there. That who should I tell in my life? Ranveer. I know Ranveer since 2016. Now, where did I get him? I don't remember. I remember that too. I met him at a YouTube party.
YouTube. Okay, YouTube party is also there. Google party. Okay, there was a party on the cruise on the ship. I got scared to say cruise. I said, this is not that cruise. This is another cruise. So all these talks, legal proceedings,
I think you must be aware about. You are aware about legal proceedings.
I have been laughing since so many years.
I got the first shot. I know about legal proceedings.
You don't know how legal proceedings are. Right. So, after a point, it kind of became a joke. We went to Assam. There was a case in Assam. The CM of Assam also filed a case against us.
He didn't do it? He didn't do it? He won't file an FIR. He posted it on Twitter. And the first name in it was Shri Ashish Chanchlani. After that, things started to spiral. FIRs started from everywhere.
They burnt my statues. And I was thinking what have I done? I was sitting on the side. I had also been to Assam. The officers there were saying that we go to catch criminals in the jungle. We are doing all this sitting here.
So, it was kind of... Like, I went there like 2-3 months went in that. But Samay was affected, Ranveer was affected, Apoorva was affected. I was completely into legal. I was trying to make sure that things are a little cool.
Is the case still going on? I think it is. Yeah, it is. It is still going on.
And you know what I am very curious about is the day when this film was being made. In hindsight, a person can say a hundred things that he shouldn't have said. And I have said it in public many times that to some extent, this whole media thing was not purely organic. You don't have to say this yourself. I can say it because I was not involved. So you can find out a hundred mistakes of Ranveer by looking at the hindsight. I am interested if you were able to find out any mistake in foresight.
Like when you recorded this and this line was forgotten. There is a line, 2 crore. He says 2 crore with his finger. If you remember. I mean, while listening, we were also saying, what is he saying? But we were saying as a colleague, what are you doing? But when it was being recorded, did anyone feel that it was a bit dangerous? Because I know that Samay had done some episodes on the shelf...
which were a bit out of character. Did anyone have any awareness during or after the shoot?
I think on the day of shoot... I had this thought in my mind at night. I told my brother too. By the way, my brother, Jashu and Tani... they handle all of my production. They are very close. I share everything with Jashan and Tani.
I told them about it. I said, it's a little too much. I had a cross in my mind. I don't know if I should be stressed about it or not. But then the format of Latent was that we talk about unhinged things. So, I didn't pay much attention to him. Was this worry about Ranveer, Purva or Samay? Overall, I think it was about Ranveer. Ranveer is a good friend of mine.
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Get started freeI can talk about him. I called Ranveer the next day. I told him that Ranveer was in danger.
He said that he was in danger. We went there to joke. I said okay. I was not really happy with the episode.
Honestly.
Samay is very close to me. And Samay was saying for a month that you are not coming. You have to come. I was like, let's go. So, I enjoyed sitting there. Was I happy about the episode? No, because I didn't say anything. I could have been better.
I was thinking that it's better if my part didn't come. But never did I think that... When God gives, he gives with a slap. Even if he gives you in a slump. Can you believe? And I was sad that I was silent. I was so quiet. I should have been more involved in my own ways.
Maybe. I can't roast any unknown person. When I am comfortable with my people, I can do it. Now I know you, Prakhar. I will pull your leg. I will have fun with you. I'll even tell you below the belt things. Because I know what kind of person you are. I don't do it with unknown people.
I thought I should have been involved. At least with Ranveer. I should have had fun with him. I was not really happy. And I was like, why was I so silent? And when this case happened,
I'm like, I thank God that I was silent. Because Ganpati Baba was holding my mouth from behind and was like, don't speak, don't speak, don't speak.
I think Jaspreet and you were the only people who were...
No bro, it happened on Jaspreet too. It happened a lot on Jaspreet too. It was all about Kerala on Jaspreet. Literacy, so many things. That episode ended everything. It ended everything. It ended everything. And the fame I saw at that time... I have never seen that fame in my life. I was walking on the road and people were staring at me.
And they were whispering in my ear. And not just in Chak De India, but it was a thing of a traitor.
At the end, the kid is singing.
After a few days, the traitor... But you know what, this is what I felt like in the Goa party. This is what I felt like. Of course, it wasn't at the national level. But everyone knew it at the creator level. And I was walking like this, I felt like, this is that.
I remember this, Prakhar. I remember this, but I didn't think about it. You know, it was the same. Like, all this was happening with you.
Yes.
We are close enough.
Yeah.
You know what you are going through.
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For us, it's like, it will be over in 10 days.
Yeah.
Right? Or it will be over in 20 days. Okay, the case is closed.
Yeah.
The show is over.
But it will be over. Yeah. That those statues are burning. I don't know if... Just look at how fat Ashish Nitilani's statue is.
It's quite good.
I think I wasn't that affected, Prakhar. But my parents were very affected. Obviously. Because people were abusing them in DM.
Obviously.
And my mom... My mom gets very nice messages from 4-5 years. Because of my content. Kids message me. Suddenly... And I couldn't understand one thing.
Why are people finding this opportunity and abusing my parents? That I found really...
It's just the nature of our business. I tell my wife that don't be public. She was saying that she has a wedding video on YouTube. Please avoid it. Because the day bad times come... I did a podcast with my father. You must watch it.
Actually. I would love to. It's actually a 20-30 minute episode. It's my 100th episode. It's a 20-30 minute episode.
I'll watch it.
And in that, a son is trying to emotionally connect with a father. You understand, right? If it's a tough father angle.
Okay.
And now what has started getting people who recognize him at the airport. Yes, they click photos. And he loves that. If a father's name is taken from his son's name, then he loves it. It's the specialty of Indian fathers.
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Get started freeYes, 100%.
But I have mentally prepared him that the day he gets abused, the first thing I'll do is to tell you, because he has seen it with me. He is ready. And this is the cost of our job, okay. I'll handle the stress. But I don't want it to happen to other people. Especially my mom. My mom raised me with so much love.
If someone abuses my mom, I'll eat them. I was also very angry. I was so angry then. And I'm sympathetic for Ranveer also. I'll kill you in his mom's clinic. How?
But how?
What nonsense! I used to talk to Ranveer too. And you know, Prakhar, I never went against anyone in a statement. In front of the police. And after that,
I have become used to drinking tea. After that day, I don't know what to say. I can't talk what to say. Even if I want to talk, everyone is advised. Samay, Ranveer, Ranveer, I think my team is ready to shut you up. He comes from behind and we are taking him away.
But I think he is doing well now. Ranveer is doing much better. I used to talk to him. After that controversy, we all got a little distant.
Even now?
No, no. We talk a lot now. We talk a lot with Samay. Samay and me, we got very close.
Okay.
So, yes.
Because Samay and I used to go together for statements. He used to sit there and do the arrangements. At one point, even the police were enjoying. The fun and jokes were going on. It became like a routine then.
Yeah.
I've had some window into that. I shouldn't even tell the camera. But I've seen that time doesn't break its character.
It doesn't.
It's the same. He has said such things that I can't tell the camera.
No, it's not about the camera. Let's leave it in suspense. Let's reinforce the brand of Samay even more. And let's leave him.
You know how he is. He's a guy, man. What a guy. He's a... He's a Ricky Gervais. Gervais. I don't know how to pronounce.
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Get started freeHe's that of India. Samay I think is much funnier. I mean, Ricky is much more smart in his comedy. He will make an intellectual point. Samay has no desire to be intellectual.
He is like, oh, man.
He does this.
You two are talking the same like him.
Right, yeah.
He's gone crazy.
So Samay is, and he has an obsession. Funny, you know, he calls me and asks me to tell him a joke. Oh yes, he does that with you also? You don't feel cheated, okay? But I'm like this. It's night time in America. I'm like, I'm sleeping. Listen to me, it's a street joke. And he does this and the whole joke...
But that's what I'm saying. He keeps testing. He makes some branded reel. Someone will randomly call him at 2 am. Ajit bhai, listen, I'm making a joke. He said, put it on, it's good, right?
Should I put it on? Put it on, brother. He'll fall asleep.
So there is a childishness in it. He has a childhood with his jokes. His jokes are toys for him. And he keeps testing everyone. And he wants to play those jokes with everyone. That's his instinct.
And I love that.
That's very admirable. But it was quite, I learnt a lot after the... For example? What I learnt is responsibility.
This is Maharashtra Police's script. Responsibility, next?
Bro, honestly, Maharashtra Police was very chill. I'm sure. Not saying because I want to earn any brownie points, but they were very chill. They are aware also.
They know everything.
The rest of the places, no.
It wasn't like that in Assam?
No, not at all.
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Get started freeDo you come to Haryana as well?
No, not Haryana side. I think in Jaipur or in Rajasthan, there was an FIR in Kota.
In Kota, It's normal in Kota. In Kota, kids are doing engineering.
Yeah.
Did Ranveer understand? I'm sure he did. I guess we need latent season 2 to find out.
I had so many things to say. I can't remember what I was saying. I'll tell you later. I've danced around this controversial topic for a long time. I need to go now. Let's talk about something non-controversial.
Yes, of course. What? Relationship? We'll put a thumbnail again. Ashish was sad. Running Ronin is not ending. Trinity will be running Ronin.
Trinity will end. Shaan Breshan, Rajshabani or Prakhar. The triangle is complete. Trinity of Running Ronin. Have you ever mentioned her name on screen? Rajshamania Prakhar. The triangle is complete. The trinity of Rani Rana.
Have you ever mentioned her name on screen? Do your fans know who she was?
No, I don't think so.
Leave it.
Let it go. I didn't bring this topic. I want to address it openly. I am very happy in life. I am working on myself. Everything is going well. I am very happy. Thank you very much.
Any thoughts on marriage?
No, not now. You look like the kind of guy who would love to fall in love. Duh! You look like a romantic. Yeah, I am a very romantic person. I am sure you are talking to somebody. There must be a talking stage.
Yes, there was. Not anymore. What happened? I'm not able to balance a lot of things. Plus, I have a lot of baggage. From the relationship. Yes, I have a lot of baggage.
So, I'm trying to... I'm like, if I have baggage, why do I have to affect somebody else? So, I'll first sort myself out, sort my career out, then I'll look out. I'll see then.
But if you plan it, it doesn't happen.
It's always very random. On a one day, something happens.
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Get started freeLove is from the moon. It's in the DNA of love.
By the way, congratulations. Sir, congratulations on your wedding. I saw what a beautiful couple.
Thank you, brother.
And can you, can you please tell me how do you know her? Where did you meet her?
Well, I met her in New York.
Oh wow!
It's a... I've told this story a couple of times somewhere. But we...
Tell me in a brief.
So we were in Brooklyn on a rooftop. I had some friends. They were going to a concert. I moved back to New York after COVID. So he went to meet us.
Okay.
And this lady comes there. And I look at her and say, she's cute. We'll have to talk. And we talk a little. And she starts pulling my leg. So I say, now I like this girl. And then our numbers exchange. And I get the idea that she also found me roughly attractive. We talk a little.
And then as we start dating, suddenly something serious happens in her life. And that thing made that whole relationship very serious. And I was... I was also a new famous. I mean, you understand, Ashish bhai, it's not a matter of throwing away. In my entire New York City building, everyone knew that
there is a famous YouTuber living in this building.
Oh wow!
So, I mean, those were my days of youth. Now, I will take advantage of all the streaming I did on YouTube. But in a couple of months I met her.
Okay.
And then the conversation started to build up. And I think I understood in a year or two that I wanted to get married.
And my taste, my choices are always a little weird. Like I don't move to Bombay for instance.
Okay.
One choice that we are prescribed to do. My family, probably before they met Klau, would have said, why do you want to marry a foreigner? I'm sorry. I just, my taste is my taste. My madness is my madness. Which is great. It should be like that.
I'm also like you. Our madness is ours. Whatever it is, it is. I was just telling my dad that gambling is like this and that. It might not work in India, but it will work in the world. So this gambling is mine. If I make a mistake in the future, then you can scold me. And then he was like, yes, my son is mature. He will see his situation. Now my family likes her more than they like me. Everyone will gang up and cut the prakhar. Today is a proper day.
And I think, bro, like says that I am spiritually Indian. I mean, my old life was Indian.
That's nice.
That reflects too. The way she got mixed in the family, suddenly became everyone's friend. Like you are like, she is from here.
And she is enjoying, right? She is loving it, bro. And where is her family from? Mexico City. Mexico? She is Mexican?. And she is enjoying, right? She is loving it, bro. And where is her family from? Mexico City. Mexico? She is Mexican?
Mexican-American.
Oh, wow! I mean, she was born and raised in America but she is Mexican-American. Sorry, I am a little invasive but I am very interested in knowing how do you manage? How do you guys manage? And when does she go? She is there.
Okay. I went to her wedding after a month, she's an artist, then I'll bring her. Okay.
Then she'll stay for a couple of months, then she'll take me to Europe.
That's... The one who drives can drive, guys. Just letting you know.
Yes, long distance is actually zero sweat for me.
Yeah.
Until I start a family and I don't have kids. You guys both are very secure. Yeah. Both are very content. 100%. Bro, when a girl loves you, you can tell her by looking into her eyes that there is no need to worry. She only loves you.
That is very important. Once that thing comes, then it gets sorted. And if your intentions are clear, like if you are not shaking in the market, then you don't think that everyone is shaking. I am very satisfied. I am not interested in any third type of person. And I know that our loyalty is completely clear.
So there is no problem in the long distance. Generally, people have this problem. They feel insecure.
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Dharak is such a thing, friend. If a person can control himself, he can achieve the greatest of the greatest things. But Dharak can stand in between you and where you want to be in a very, very blocky way. I feel like all that energy gets transmuted towards work. That is necessary.
I mean, even if anybody's, whoever is watching this, I would say that once you get hold of it, it's not that great of a thing. I mean, the way you think about it, Oh f**k, it makes you very excited, it's not. It's just very normal. Once you're over it, you will realize how mediocre it is.
Yeah, I mean, you know what? I think the conversation around sex in India, in India, the conservative society globally, is a little muddled. Because if I can talk about sex in a naked way, it is probably the most beautiful thing that two humans engage in. But because he has become so perverted around pornography, around being so suppressed,
not talking, being ashamed, that it has become animalistic somewhat. And there is a very funny joke of that Jorogun about when a man has an erection, or when he has a horny erection, it is like he's sitting in the last seat of a bus and the driver is someone else. He can only tell the driver, don't take it here, don't take it there. The rest of the driver will do it.
And as soon as the erection ends, he comes back to the driver's seat. Right? It's kind of like that. And so men have the propensity to make horrible errors because of Tharak. Yeah, very, very true. Horrible errors, which have no going back. And as a growing adult, as a male that's 18, 19, 20, you should know,
if you get hold of this thing, you'll be able to enjoy it and it won't ruin you. But if you don't get hold of it, it can ruin you. 100% it can destroy it. 100% How many people have been destroyed in the whole world? How many people have been destroyed because of this? You go to Walking Street Phuket and see how many men come there every week to get destroyed, secretly from their wives.
I'm not kidding. This is so real. That's also wrong. But people do it. Yeah. And it is... Yeah, it's okay. I mean, whatever, dude. I don't want to imagine. If you're flying from Thailand to Bombay or Delhi,
you can tell me in the line who's going to walk the streets.
Right?
He's getting a shock.
He's happy.
Who goes to Thailand with his wife? I mean, very real. I'm getting to know all these secrets after getting married. That, fuck, this happens too. And so, yeah, you are very right. I found that when I met Klau, I found that my need silently went somewhere. You know, sex and whatever. And it all slowly channelized towards work.
And I think it's a perfectly fungible energy. You can take that energy from here and put it here. But because Indians don't get enough. Yeah. They feel shame all their life. So what happens is, when they get a chance, they feel like an animal. And that's just not the best, bro.
That's not good. Taboo. It's taboo. We are so popular, but still, it's taboo to talk about sex. I also try to have a conversation with someone around it. Everything just goes wrong. Oh my God! How do I talk about this?
What is this?
Sex has become a wind. I feel like we should engage more in conversations. Not everything about sex has to be horny. And what you are saying, perverted, lusty. Everything is not like that. Talk about it.
Some people are enjoying, some people are not enjoying. But yes, I do believe once you're in love, sex is very fulfilling. It's love making then. It is very fulfilling. It's the best form of things that I'm not able to
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Get started freetranslate it well. Love making is the shit bro. It's just two minutes of pleasure that will make you feel extremely empty later on. It feels void in the mind. After a while. Like for me, why I'm saying this is not as a
joke but for a lot of people who haven't met me, you think about why is this 50 year old who has now two kids still so goddamn horny for other women. Yeah. Right? That he's eating outside his house. And it's because your stomach is not full. So, you eat whatever you get. And I think my prescription to say my nephew, I'm not telling the audience at all, because sex is such a conversation, talking privately and talking in the media are two different things.
And what you are saying as a fact, people should understand, is supposed to be done. That it should be done, otherwise it's tricky. But that's why I'm saying this to my nephew. If you are young and those waves are in your body that live, explore it to satisfaction.
Because after marriage, don't be so eager to go to Thailand.
Yeah, I'll get slapped. Don't do that because then you are letting me down. Once you have decided that this is the girl that I want to marry and have a family with, don't be fucking around after that. So while you're single and you're an adult,
please, by all means, explore it.
I have seen people who talk about this, and still they have this habit of serially doing it.
Of course.
Cheating.
Of course, bro. Of course, I mean...
I have seen this in Goa. Let's go there. What was happening there?
Would you like to take a name?
They also know that I am talking about them.
They also know?
They also know.
What? That? Hot and cold?
Enough. We won't describe it anymore.
We won't give information to people. We'll leave them in suspense.
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F**k yeah!
Yes, in the entertainment industry, everyone is attractive.
Yes.
And there are situations where people come and... When you go to Goa, people say... They ask if you'll drink or what. The conversation was going on and I said, don't do it. Have some shame. I was saying like this.
You are acting like this. I said, forgive me.
Go, shut up.
I don't know if I should say something like this. But I am recapping now. I was married in Thailand, Phuket. So I am recapping what my friends did married in Thailand, Phuket. So I'm recapping now, what my friends did. Because you're busy in your marriage, you let your friends chill.
And you find out who all went where they went.
And you're like, you're also a b**ch?
I mean, they're all single.
All of them are single. I'm the second guy in the group to get married.
So that's not an ethical complaint. I want somebody to do a podcast on Thailand's tourism. I want a man to do an information driven interview style podcast.
You told someone.
What are you talking about?
I am talking nonsense.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Thailand. I'm going to hit you. You're getting dirty, Ashwin. You're looking like a naked girl. What's this? You can go to Thailand with friends. Bro, truly what a beautiful place. Yeah, yeah. Fifi. I've never been. Kofangan. Very good places. Very good place.
Thailand actually is very budget friendly and
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Get started freea very good place. I only went to get married. I went to book first go there to get married. I first went there to book a room, then to get married. So, I've never been there.
You went to the beach, right?
Yes, to the beach.
Which area were you in?
I was in a hotel. In Phuket, I was in a hotel. My JW Marriott.
Did you spend a lot? No, right? formula. I have made this formula in my wedding. Because there are 3-4 difficulties with marriage. One, the bride and groom never enjoy. Because I really feel that you have worn 250 kgs of jewelry and clothes. How will you smile? Your lips will fall off. One thing. Second thing, you have all these rituals that you have to perform all the time, which never work on time. So, you are getting married at 4 in the morning. Third, your father has been to so many weddings that he will invite all those people to his wedding, you don't know who they are. So now you can't openly enjoy with all those people because they are strangers.
Best thing is that you are a majority part of your wedding. 100 people, close only, such that this party is about us and we will all enjoy. The feedback I have received from my wedding, because I am not the kind to bother too much. What clothes, this, that. I was saying, Klau, let's get married.
The marriage is much more important than the wedding.
Then, yeah, oh wow.
So, I am like, I am a masculine brain. Marriage is better than the wedding.
The marriage is much more important. I should be solving how our finances are going to work. I should be solving where we are staying. Very practical and mature. I am practical. I mean, my discussion with her is, what language are we teaching our kids? It's not that what clothes are we wearing for our wedding.
So I didn't pay much attention. And Klau would tell me, we would do something that people will tell their children about. Not because it will be so grand, but because people will have so much fun. And my dad's friends tell me that we felt like we were 20 again after a long time.
Oh.
Because everyone was dancing to techno. Uncle's were dancing to techno. Klau had called a DJ from Switzerland. He was playing techno hardcore techno. And uncle's also understood this. And so we got everybody involved.
Everybody we knew was close to us. Klau's family, my family, their friends.
All of them were close. You had good fun.
Bro, I can't say it. It was beyond. It's a dream. She did this unique thing in which we booked a boat. On the first day, there were only 50 people and some friends. And that boat just goes into the ocean.
Wow! I am copying this. Do it, bro. Do everything.
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Get started freeYou arranged all this. Did you get the idea or did Bhabhi ji? All clout. I don't bother with this bro. You'll have to meet her. You'll have to ask her.
Look, the boat is here. Play this video.
Just to give you context. I'll have to talk to him. Oh, man! This looks very fun.
Bro, this is something...
Bangar Prashant!
This looks actually fun, man. This is how you get married.
This was just a warm-up event.
Oh, this was a warm-up event? This is the warm-up event.
Everyone came, we had a board booked.
And...
I can't tell you. Klau was right. I was like, let's vote in the court and end it. We will invest the money.
This is the peak boy behaviour. It has come to all the boys' mind. End it. But parents, sisters, my family is already filmy. They will be like, we want it.
Break the reception and call everyone. There are no problem with 1000-2000 people.
Did you do it?
Yes, the reception was full-sized.
It was jam-packed. Where?
Delhi. It was in Delhi. But the guest list was huge for that. My father's circuit, my uncle's circuit, my brother's circuit, then my circuit. Then Klaus and her families. So that was a thing to behold. But most of the other things were limited to 200 people max. I went to my home garden for the first time.
Because that's the garden I grew up in. This is my mother's garden. So we had this kind of emotional choice making. We didn't want to do anything. We had our first round in the morning and afternoon. We went to the after party till night. We didn't want to go to sleep early in the morning. No one is getting up at 4 am and getting married. Let's do it early so when everybody is awake.
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Get started freeYes, that's good.
But you saw Gaurav and Kritika's wedding. Gaurav Kapoor.
I've been hearing a lot. I saw a photo. All the girls, ladies, white. I liked that photo. I think the wedding aesthetic
is going towards this light.
Yeah.
It's ending very soon.
It's going very fast. The excitement is ending.
The excitement is ending.
I have seen weddings in Mumbai.
Very Mumbai.
I have to say.
I have seen weddings in Mumbai and in Delhi.
In Delhi, there is a dangerous grand wedding.
I mean, if I want to eat Turkish food, I want to eat Chinese food, I want to go to Delhi's wedding. It's not like that in Mumbai. Why is it like that? Delhi's people are so... I think it's the Punjabi vs Gujarati influence in these cities. I believe, maybe I'm wrong, Punjabis, Baniyas, they like grand weddings. And, truly, they're very, very fun. I mean, man, some of these weddings are so much fun. Because, let's talk about the food.
The alcohol is exquisite. The best bartenders. Entrances are open, my friend is flying. He's properly hanging from the sky. I've seen him in his suit. I've seen him. He came down from his suit. He danced on the beautiful girls.
His dad danced. He came down the stairs, and he started dancing on the beautiful girls. His father started dancing. And then, in a little while, all the uncles start getting drunk, and start asking for cigarettes from the kids. It gets super fun, and it's happening till 4 in the morning. I think it's the loudness of Delhi. I think it's the character of Delhi.
Grand, loud, bigger than it is. And Bombay is a little more subtle, but a little more boring for that exact reason. I did a few Bombay weddings, very fun, because it was my friend's. But come on, this is a pre-party. Like, you know, like show me the real shit.
Yeah, like this. It was good, beautiful, but the purpose of marriage is not to be beautiful. It's to be fun. So, Mumbai is very aesthetic pleasing, Delhi is like sensual. And we will enjoy it. Bro, there are different bars for different kinds of hookahs.
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Get started freeThey have different expenses because I had to make these choices for my wedding. This is a molecular bar, this is that, this type of money will be spent on this.
And you realize that fuck the business is crazy.
Delhi wedding, any day. Fun, food, everything. It's like, it's like a service. It's a public service.
I've attended weddings in UP and Punjab. You're like, wow! These people know how to have fun. If a guy from UP is trying to be funny, he's hella funny.
It gets more fun as you go away from Mumbai. All of this, the event, weddings, It's more fun in Delhi, MP. Hyderabad is crazy. Hyderabad is crazy. Hyderabad is crazy. Hyderabad is crazy.
Hyderabad is crazy. Hyderabad is crazy. Hyderabad? Um, no, not in a long time. You should go now. Food has developed a lot.
Food is so good.
Food was always Hyderabad's speciality. They love movies like anything. I have been to a place after a long time, that feels like I should have been here. Oh right. Yeah, it feels like that.
It was a fun place. I also liked your area very much. We are not used to such an open area. Yeah, this is... My grandma built this house. Okay. When I came back from America to work here,
my mom told me one thing. That here is my grandma's blessing. Start working from here. So I worked here. This was my father's first office. My brother's first office. my mother's first office, my uncle's first office, and now my first office. Now my team has moved, but this is where we record. This house must have been built 40 years ago.
Something like that. But when my friends come to my house, for instance, they're like, we get why you don't move to Mumbai. And if you see my house, you'll be like, of course, why would you move to Mumbai?
Hmm. why would you move to Mumbai? You don't feel like coming to Mumbai, right? I'll come to work. Work is fine, but you know, Max, I think you must have stayed a week in Mumbai. And it drives me crazy. Because you meet so many people in a week and they tell you all new things.
Everyone has something new to say.
You come next time, we'll just chill. In Ulaanbaatar? No, I live in Bandra. I would have called you to Ulaan Sagar. It takes 3 hours to reach Ulaan Sagar.
It's outside? Yes.
I think, Greater Noida. How far is it? 1 hour. 1 hour? Then it's even further. 60 km. Oh wow. From the airport.
It's a different city. It's not like a district within Mumbai.
It's very different city. It's not like a district within Mumbai. It's very, very far away. So you live in Bandra. Family lives in Bandra. Family lives in Bandra. And where does Eliyavram live? There we are. There we are. I can see a thumbnail.
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Get started freeAashish's thumbnail. Aashish talks about Eliyavram. I say, put the thumbnail. Put it. Put it. Put it. You clicked and said, Ashish talking about Rekha, Ellie Avram. This is the moment you guys are trolled. We didn't say anything.
F**k you.
Wait, I will not pass a judgement on that just right now. I want to know. The few things I know about Ashish Chanchlani. One of the things is, Ashish was briefly dating Ellie Avram.
No. Then why did you act? No, I was briefly dating Ellie Avram. No, man. Then why did you act? No, I was not dating. I'll tell you, Ellie and I are very good friends. We even shot there.
From her side or from your side?
From both sides. Listen to this. Motherf**ker.
I told him. Coffee, coffee is going on between them. I have made more coffee. I have more. We have half an hour. Listen, listen, listen. Ali and I are very good friends. So, we were having fun.
So, I picked him up in my arms and clicked a photo.
And I was bothering him.
You know, you have a banter with your co-actor.
So, I was bothering him. You know, you have a banter with your co-actor. So, I was having fun. I said, let's upload the picture. You have roses in your hand. People will think we are dating. I said, let's upload it.
It exploded like anything, man. And I was like, no. This is not what was... What happened after that, all over the internet it was. And then I got a bit pissed off.
I said, this is a bit too much. This shouldn't have happened. I will never do such a thing in my life. So next time if you see me with a girl, she's actually the one I am marrying.
For sure.
You are the Poonam Pandey of relationships. I trolled Poonam Pandey. You are the Poonam Pandey of relationships. I became the very only guy sold to destroy. So wait, you were just co-actors.
Yeah.
In what?
We did a music video together. A 40 series song. Vishal Mishra's song. Mithun composed it. It's a beautiful song. Chandaniya.
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Get started freeCan you show me without the audio? I just want the visuals of this.
I want to see what happens. And this was shot... Can you f**king believe? November is crazy for me. November 2024. This was shot nearly
that time only when I was shooting for Latent. In that one month I shot for Latent and this. And both of these events in reality.
This is that picture that came out?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, I would look at it and be like, of course, this is a Nick Jonas Priyanka Chopra
vibes.
Open it.
Open it. This also came to my mind. We should have really dated. Because people really loved our... Ellie and me or just me?
Fuck you.
By the way, Ellie is gorgeous.
She is gorgeous. More than one, she's also very funny. I've never met her but... She's a very funny person and very intelligent.
You have to say all this in feminism.
No man!
I was saying this.
I'm just getting under his skin.
She's a dumb girl.
She'll kill me. I'm a girl, I'm a girl. Crazy. Funny. Oh shit, this is short where? Europe. This is Venice. Venice. Venice, Italy. By the way, Venice has a smell.
Yes, yes, it smells a lot.
But Venice, people told me that it's an okay place. It's hyped. I liked it. You liked it? See, what you're saying is hyped, everyone told me that. But when I went, Hyped. I liked it. You liked it? Everyone said that you are hyped for Venice. But when I went, I enjoyed it.
I went with my brother, Jashan. He only likes Indian food. What a frame! He only likes Indian food. So I took him.
Thumbnail.
Take a screenshot.
How can I take a screenshot?
Sorry, Indian food. My bad.
No, it's okay.
Coffee is on.
No, it's okay.
So, yeah. I liked Pasta Asta there. I liked the Italian people there.
French people...
They are a bit snooty.
They are very snooty. I have been to Cannes twice.
People in Cann France are like this. The whole of France is like this. I don't know. What about you? I've never had... I mean, look, brother, I've been racist in almost every country. And frankly, it doesn't matter to me. I have a little... I have a little... How do I say this?
If anyone has ever spoken in France, then we'll see what to do at that time. I went to Italy when I was a kid. So I don't have a lot of memories. I only remember Venice and the smell of the sewage. But I went to France recently, a couple of years ago. It was great. No problem.
I mean, if Klau and I are together, no one would even guess that there are different racists with him. So I don't know.
Maybe if it had happened, I wouldn't have paid attention. What did you like about France? In France, there were a lot of snobbish people. They were very self-centered.
Which frankly, I'll be real. I can think of three cuisines that are better than French cuisine. And one of them is Indian.
Yeah, I need it.
Indian cuisine is the best.
One of the best.
It's the best. I liked Italian. Agreed. Mexican food is great. I love Mexican food. What a great thing you said. You are a Mexican family man.
We are from Swaziland.
We have a Swaziland taste.
Swaziland taste.
You are from your in-laws' place.
He likes Indian food. I like Mexican food. Which should be obvious.
Yeah. It is obvious. Like the burrito bowl. Ohohoho. Burrito by the way is not Mexican. Burrito is American's version of Mexican. Burrito is I think not a Mexican thing. It's a Tex-Mex thing. But taco. Taco is your one.
There are 4 ingredients. We mix them in a different way.
Oh, okay. Right, so Coming back to, yeah. So we posted. It was supposed to be fun and things got a bit serious after that.
Not between us. Online by the way. Just letting you know before you get there.
Did it get weird between you? Because it got so much exploded that the public took the narrative from you.
No, actually we were laughing. We were enjoying it. In the beginning but later Ellie started getting trolled. Regarding her history. Whatever it was. I mean, people assumed certain things about her.
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Get started freeYou know how it is. Women are soft targets. No, no. Women do get the short end of...
...public trolling.
Women are soft targets. So, purely because of that reason... ...what happened with her, I would never do that... ...with anyone. Is what I believe. But the song was fun, the shoot was fun. This was my first ever music video shoot outside. So it was good, it was fun.
Nice. I think we have literally 25 minutes more.
Oh yes.
So should we talk about the breakup now? I have promised people in the beginning, we have to get to this. No man, this guy is pulling my leg. I know he is doing some bullshit. We have to get to this. I will talk to him, I will abuse him. I think that's how it opens. This is how it happens with boys. Once the door opens, If you get abused,
then you are friends. We are formal.
It happens with girls.
One girl abused another girl. Oh my God, that is so rude. You shouldn't have talked to me like that. It hurt me. I was in trauma for a week after that. Maybe I did not address
that during that time. But later on, I was contemplating it affected me.
It's not like that, guys. He called me a mother******. Yeah, right.
Now he's my brother.
Now you'll see.
Now he's my brother.
I'll take four new abuses. Four new abuses. I'll do one, now I can't take stress. Now you tell me your 20 most embarrassing moments. I will remind you of them every day. Guys, it's like that. Guys, why do you say such random, buffoonery things?
Please tell me, why do you have so much fun doing nothing or doing shit that nobody else does? Why does this happen? My guess is, male life is generally dominated by serious decisions. You have to take someone's responsibility all day long.
And there is a pressure, a decision fatigue. Now at night, it's like your pressure cooker releasing gas. Now please don't talk to me seriously. Now what I'm saying has no meaning. Please don't take it seriously. This is just me vomiting my stress away.
And everybody needs that. Either they play padel, badminton, or tennis. Or they sit with friends and talk nonsense. But this is our method. And the ability that I can attack your status and you won't do anything is a symptom that we are secure. We are friends. Otherwise, a man will not listen to his status, even in the industry, I won't listen to him.
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Get started freeYou say it, he can't say it. Because everything is status, everything is reputation. But when two men can laugh at each other, that means that they have left the reputation and status behind. And like you see childhood friends, who grew up together in childhood, then becomes a big man. Then a person doesn't become big.
But their humor remains the same.
Yes.
And that just tells you that they are on the same level. Yes, true. Very true. It happened to me in the middle, Prakash. I saw two girls at an event. I am not a celebrity, obviously. Their managers were fighting over who will come in the end? Who will come later? Because the crowd was cheering for that. For show stopping? For show stopping.
And what dress he wore. Similarly, there was another content creator with me. I won't take his name, but nothing bad happened.
Hmm.
So, obviously, people knew me more than him. Obviously, because he is new. So, I was feeling like, no, this shouldn't happen. It shouldn't. He is a very good friend of mine. So when I went, I got more cheers for me, less for him. So I was trying to hype him up.
And we sat there. So he tells me, if I was there, I would have cheered for you too. So this is the case with boys. If we have security, then it doesn't matter.
It doesn't happen with girls.
It doesn't happen. I've tweeted about it a couple of days ago. This is my guess because I can't say anything for a female experience. I have a friend. She is my best friend's girlfriend. And now she is part of the family. I mean, she is Klau's best friend. So like, effectively, she is like my sister. Like, it's that kind of a relationship.
She comes home, stays with my family. She is a foreigner. I see her as an alpha female. It's not like she's tough. Like the projection of an alpha male is that she's tough. I'm a bearded, fat woman. Like muscle. She's the softest woman you'd see. Her femininity is very obvious. She's a model, good-looking woman.
Very smart. But I've seen her socially engaging with people. I'm socially engaging with the same people for the first time. Sometimes it happens that I'm having trouble with doing something, I want to talk to someone and I'll put her there first. Because the way she talks and the way she brings people into her team is so different than mine. And I conceptualize in my mind that there is a difference between male and female. Because she gets the job done.
Just like I get the job done. Right? But she does it in a way that's so different. I don't understand. I'm just watching it and I'm like, this is theater. I'm watching theater.
I'm watching somebody perform and charm somebody out of their bloody wallet in five minutes by just being so different from what you would think. And I think there's a little difference. Girls are friends as soon as they meet, but they're not really friends. Right? If you meet your wife's friend's husband, it took me two years to make even a little friendship. Because men have that 36-digit number.
Your system is there, my system is here. Stay away. But if you're friends, then it doesn't matter.
And once the ice breaks, then the friendship is very good. I was like, he's a f**ker, I won't talk to him. And someday we talk and say, he's a good guy. So it's a very different dynamic. It happened with Scout. We were judges in the playground. I don't know, but Scout seemed like a snobbish man.
So, Scout... I didn't talk to him much. I used to talk to Carry and Harsh. I used to think, what's so great about him? So, one day, I talked about Marvel on the set. He turned out to be a fan of Marvel. So we started talking. Those days are today's. We are very good friends. So you take a notion that this guy is like this.
We boys have a beef in our mind. We have an imaginary beef with someone. And then, it always happens that the other person talks to you. You think in your mind that this is not what I thought. And then that same person becomes your best friend.
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Yeah.
There was a grand awakening in my life. Did someone come? There was a grand awakening in my life. I went to do Vipashana for the first time. So, what happened was, on day one, they shut you up. And you have to stay quiet for 10 days.
And you stay quiet for 10 days and all the 10, 20, 25 people in front of you, whoever is in your center, you are lucky because it's the least of your pains. Because you could be anxious, you could be scared, you could be ashamed. You can have all these feelings come up. So I was very bored. So I gave all my feelings to everyone without realizing that this will happen.
And this is what he does.
Yes, absolutely. Judgments.
And the whole story of 10 days is built out. Like a brother used to to sit longer than me. He would sit for longer. And I used to think of a competition. He sits for 2 hours, I'll sit for 2 and a half hours. He sat for 2 and a half hours. I used to say, doesn't he have pain in his legs? Because you've been sitting for 2 and a half hours.
He used to sit for 3 hours. He used to sit for half an hour even after the meditation. On the 10th day, we started talking and I said, you are very strong. He said, I was crying every day. And you are a very different person. I didn't see his tears in the dark. But he was crying. He was so scared. Then there was a man, I thought this will be like this.
This will be like this. He opened his mouth, he was such a funny man. I said, I didn't portray this funny in my mind. we are so massively aware, it's all a projection. You meet a person and project your own security and insecurity on him. And you fight a war with him. And when you win that war, you feel good. And when you lose, you feel bad.
Fundamentally, this is the reality of trolling online. People made a story in their mind. And published it on you.
We are all reality TV show stars on Reddit and Twitter. On which one day, like all of them are big boss's house on social media, Instagram. What a thing you have said!
And today, your cheque will be ripped off, your name will be made. And it is like when this Reddit thing was trending about me not having a daughter, I completely understand many women have been with guys that has made them feel unsafe for their security, safety. So, they are probably projecting that fear onto somebody who resembles that guy or those instincts. It has nothing to do with me. It has everything to do with their fear and I completely understand.
Sorry boss, I'm going to tell you what my truth is. So he shouldn't take it so seriously. Someone asked me on stage recently, the same panel I was with Tanmay on, that how do you deal, how do you not care as a creator, as somebody who's famous? Someone asked me on stage recently, the same panel I was with Tanmay on,
how do you not care as a creator, as somebody who's famous? If you get abused on the internet, why did you put Wi-Fi?
It's true, you can switch it off.
Hard to do it, we both know. But you can switch it off. And the second thing is you realize that the circus is running in their mind. You are just a character that has appeared and you will go away in two days. This is the circus of life. You are chosen for this. The access you get, the photographs you have to get clicked, the money that comes in your door because you just opened your mouth and said this product is better. Right? Those are the privileges. And the cost is that any idiot comes and says, Hey, you are a scoundrel.
You are like this. Why are you laughing so much? Okay, I guess it's a fair trade.
I am okay with it. That is there. Advantages. So many people know you.
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Get started freeSo this is a given. Actually, you know, I had one thing I did want to ask you. Apart from all the funny stuff you've done by the way, thank you for being such a sport in the whole conversation. I think for every influencer who's spoken about body and you know the kind of stuff that comes with it, they have to wonder once that now when GLP-1 is coming, the speed with which it is coming, Munjaro, Jalpek, Ratatouille, it's going to change the landscape of...
I mean, I tell my gym guys to throw the treadmill. Throw the treadmill. Because a shot of 3000 rupees, a shot of 750 rupees a month, a shot of a week. Easiest thing to do. Once the taboo is removed from the minds of Indians that you are injecting or taking pills. To lose weight, the man who is walking on the treadmill in the gym, by the way, ask him how much he is fighting to lose weight. That he is walking on the treadmill in the gym, ask him how much he is fighting to lose weight. He is walking on the treadmill with his momos.
If you are telling him to apply an injection, he will lose weight. Is there any Michael Aale who can stop him? This trend, everybody wants to be hot. Everybody wants abs. And if you can get abs by doing nothing, you think people are stupid? They will for sure take on this.
No matter what somebody says. No matter how much you keep on promoting influencers, they won't promote them. They will promote your doctor. They will promote your neighbors. That is bound to happen. It's a one-way train. What do you think? Like, generally speaking, what do you think about this?
I am against it honestly. Because I have seen people getting affected by it. After 7-8 months down the line, wrinkles start to appear on the face.
7-8 months of usage?
Yeah.
The face starts to get loose. Because these injections kill your appetite. And because they kill your appetite, you also stop having protein. You stop everything. It's not just that you're stopping carbs and fat. So, ultimately, your muscle goes down. As a man, I'm speaking. Secondly, it's a diabetic medication.
So, the pancreas...
Pancreatitis is a risk.
Yes, it's a risk. So, the things that were there to reduce insulin, the things that managed insulin level, the replicates of that come, ozempic and all. So, those organs start thinking that they don't need it.
Also, I've heard that permanent blindness is also...
Forget about blindness, there was recent stuff about your stomach paralysis. You can't digest food.
So, there are side effects. The side effects have not been discovered. Bro, there is no vaping. Empty your pocket. What I want to tell you is that no matter what you say, there are no side effects. Clearly, there are no studied side effects of aspirin.
I know, there studied side effects. We can pick up a person. So, although what you're saying is right. I totally agree with what you're saying. A person should take a step very carefully. But no one will. No one will. I'm telling you what has to happen.
I'm not saying what should happen.
Yes, exactly. So, I would still prefer the long route. Like, I'm on bulking right now. And my weight is increasing again. Because I have to increase for the next role. But I will have to cut it in a few days. Because obviously,
you have to look good according to the screen. But the problem is, Prakhar, that thing... It will kill my appetite. And I won't feel like eating anything. And the charm of the face goes away. I'm very scared of that.
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I don't know if other people... Whoever is using it in the industry, I know...
A lot of people are doing it.
They are. I've met them. They have to use so much of makeup to hide. Then what happens is, even if they're going to the gym, they are wearing makeup. You understand? They are wearing makeup everywhere, trying to hide it. Then they will get face treatments done with it. Now they will get skin lifting treatment done. So, there are side effects of it. So, that's why I am very scared of that thing. I feel that,
you see, a fat person who is not taking the injection and who is on a natural diet versus a thin person who is taking the injection. You will realize that you should not do this. Plus, it is a thing that I have to do it myself. Even if I have to take a long route. This is purely my thinking.
I am not like...
No, no. You are, you are not wrong. I think this fundamental relationship between, like our relationship with our body is a bit like this, if I work hard, I should get the result. Our training is also that, in a capitalist society, that if you have to put in effort, then only the reward is justified,
otherwise the reward is not justified.
Yes, that is there.
Right?
This is in the mind. This is there. It will be destroyed with this. I think the concept of your body and your relationship with your body will change. And I am not talking about an individual who does not use it. I am talking about the social level, which is going to be changed in a social fabric and a social consciousness. Where, see, in all fairness, you eat anything in today's date. Its sugar content is more than the natural sugar content. Absolutely. The fruits that you eat today are selected to be more sweet and that has occurred over thousands or hundreds of agricultural years.
The fruits that our ancestors used to eat were not that sweet. Now fruits are minimum. From your Coca-Cola to your Jalebi and everything, the amount of sugar that you put in your cakes is very crazy. And so the response of sugar and insulin in your body is also unnatural. Your body is not made getting diabetes. That's crazy. And so, the sugar and insulin response in your body is also unnatural. Your body is not made for this. That's why everyone is diabetic. Okay, second, diabetic medication, like you, Ozempic and GLP-1, have become famous. Back in 2016-17,
when I was researching longevity, before it was cool, I think Rapamycin, I'm checking, Rapamycin and metformin are also diabetic medications that have the strongest effect on enhancing lifespan. So we might actually find that sugar and lifespan has something to do with each other. This is a thesis from 10 years ago. No, that is true. Sugar has a lot to do with your lifespan. I think internal inflammation can be a good marker of how much sugar and insulin you are sensitive to.
What is the name of this drink? Moenjo. Moenjo. Moenjo.
Is it really called Moenjo?
No, it's Monjaro. It's Monjaro. Monjaro and Ozempic, actually, it's called something like semi-glutide. Semi-glutide. It's a type of compound. Someone told me to take it. MTOR inhibitor primarily immunosuppressant. That shows no. Then write Metformin.
Rhypomycin is different. Paradoxical effects on diabetes. But now it's getting commercialized. A lot.
This month, the patent of this company is over.
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So, that time is running out for Eli Lilly. A shot of Eli Lilly, Monjaro, etc. I think it costs over 10,000 rupees. That's going to come 3x down to 3000 rupees. Because generic will start getting. Or at that point, it's just anybody's guess.
Money is a huge... Money and taboo. I think there will be two issues in Indian society. One is taboo, doing all this. And how many times do people think about eating protein? I was coming to that. It is crazy taboo around protein powder. It took me a year to convince my dad.
Because my dad used to eat chicken and veg before. Now he is a vegetarian. So someone told him that protein powder has side effects. That my son had a kidney problem. Now his friend's son had had kidney problem. Now, his friend's son had kidney problem because the place where he bought protein from was fake.
Yes, fake protein is the biggest issue. In which calcium, I don't know what else is added. Obviously, kidney stones are there. Kidney stones are there because of calcium monodials. What is protein to people? Because they see boxes, big names, labels. They think it's some steroid, some medicine. Whereas it is made of milk.
Bro, I was in a conversation yesterday about this thing. I was talking about some supplements. So, someone says, man, it's very taboo to do pill pop in India. It has a side effect. So, I said, how many crocines do you eat? Ask yourself. How much do you eat?
The pharmaceuticals, for which you need a regulatory body, you drink it like water. And you don't think about the side effects. And your kid is saying, take protein, dad. You are old. All the muscles will go away from your body. You are 60 now. You need muscle around your bones. Otherwise, it will eat curd. Come on, back off, dude. I will eat curd.
My mom used to do deadlift.
What are you saying?
Yes, my mom does.
Damn!
Yes, my mom does. She does squats. She does split squats. Bulgarian squats. So, when my mom was in Ulasnagar, I made her understand.
One day I told her what muscle is. I told her that I have been listening to you since childhood. Come to the gym with me for 2 months. Versus mom used to go to Zumba. If you don't feel good in 2 months, in your knees, in your body,
then I will start doing whatever you say. I will leave everything. My mom got convinced in a month that whatever she was doing in the gym, this deadlift, she started slowly. It's not like she came out straight. She took a normal 2 kg dumbbell, a little bend,
she got her posture right. Mom started feeling very fresh. It has been almost 10 years now, mom does deadlift very well. I think my mom does 40-50 kg deadlift easily.
Wow!
Yeah.
And she's been telling everyone all around of her age group. My mom... Now, they go to kitty parties, they go out for a walk. Once, everyone went rock climbing. My mom climbed in 10 minutes and everyone stayed down. Then my mom came down to pick everyone up.
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I will get a disc herniation soon. But please don't give me protein.
Have you seen that reel?
People who eat chole bhature, those who eat parathas, those who eat jalebi rabri at night, when they get protein at the end, they say, no, no, it's not good.
It makes your kidneys stone.
It makes you stone, for years.
And you know, I don't actually blame them because the fake stuff in the protein industry has been around for so long, historically. I heard a horror story in my childhood, about a friend's child who took protein, and his stool turned green.
What? What is this?
What is this? What is this? What is this?
How do you make sense of it? Like what do you do? How do you argue? You are in fourth grade. Fifth grade. You are fat.
You want to say, dad, I want to go to the gym. I don't like being fat.
Girls don't look good in class. I was 2-3 years old when I found out Prakhar also used to be very obese. Fat. That was crazy.
Yeah.
It's funny people forget that. I can never forget that. Fat kid, you can never forget.
Never, bro. Never. But so cool.
Psychologically, you are always fat.
But I feel like you always had a muscle inside. It does not matter when you are so fat. I know, but you were inside, that's why you are so huge. Do you know what was the first thing I did today? I know it sounds wrong, but I came to Prakhar and the first thing I did was I said to his biceps, how huge are you?
I have just cut it.
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Then he says, I still have 17.
And that's without trying guys.
That's the most man thing to do. That even after cutting, I I have 17 biceps. My peak is 18.5-19.
That's crazy.
I want to get there.
And you know, I'm telling you the truth. I've done nothing special for it. I think I did gym after 12th grade. So, my body was still flexible. You have to look at my mother's brothers to understand where the genes come from.
6.5 feet tall ex-navy, I was like, I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to do it.
I'm not going to do it.
I'm not going to do it.
I'm not going to do it. I was a kid and I was sitting in the kitchen with my mom. And a shadow comes out of the window, which is so long. Like in Courage the Cowardly Dog, my window burst and a man comes out of it. I was like, what the f**k is this? So both my mamas are like extremely well-built individuals. I'm sure.
One of them is X-Men.
We can see the genetics by looking at your face. What... I'm sorry I'm asking this purely because of bodybuilding. What's your caste?
So my dad is Gupta Baniya. My mother is Mehrotra.
Mehrotra.
Which I think are Punjabi.
Punjabi.
One minute.
So I'm half.
You're half. So how has your diet been since childhood? Like what did you eat on a thali? I started eating chicken soon.
Good. My Punjabi friend's sister used to feed me chicken in my childhood.
Oh wow. And there's no going back. I cannot. I need protein in my meal. Chicken is the greatest thing ever. Sure. Like frankly at this point when you eat the same thing for so long, you don't like anything. Yes, that's true. It gets boring. So, you feed me chicken, you feed me vegetables. But if I don't eat protein, I don't get satiation that I'm full.
So, I need some protein somewhere in the diet. All my expenses, I don't spend on clothes. I put all my money in supplement and protein, in gym. Because I feel if you look good, all the clothes will look good on you. Everything will be automatic. I get bored of eating chicken. So, my protein intake is from whey protein. How much chicken will you eat?
After a point, it becomes like a bus. It's like plastic. And if you want to bulk up, you have to go for a calorie surplus. How much chicken will you eat for a calorie surplus? But if calorie surplus is best done through drinking,
not alcohol, but drinking as in like smoothies. Yeah, that's better. Liquid is better. But eating it is not.
It's very difficult.
You get full.
I'm on bulk only, so I'm tired.
I'm lucky to be on bulk. I've been on bulk all my life without trying. I'm like, eat.
Yeah, but that's how I am. I'm like that. I smell like Nutella. That's my body type is like that. But I don't like sweets. I'm not a sweet guy. I'm just a portion size guy. I love sweets.
I get everyone like you. I don't like sweets. I just like it a lot. You must like something sweet.
No, I don't care. Ice cream. I love ice cream. Okay, that too from Stevia. No, it's not like that. Me and Klau, what we used to do is, we used to go and get a new ice cream tub everyday, which is different. And ice cream as a...
But I don't order it. Like, I don't order ice cream or if I go out at a restaurant, I don't want ice cream.
But if someone asks me what I like in sweets, I'll get ice cream. I don't like the cakes and sweets outside. I want to eat Rasmalai. Rasmalai is tasty. See, what a thing. Even if I have it at home, I won't eat it. It's like that. I don't even look at it. But if there is a sandwich or a burger, if there is salty food,
it's gone. I have dreams of going to Gulabjamun at night.
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Get started freeHow do I make you understand? Then you won be no marriage. That has to change first of all. We have to dream about girls, Ashish. We have to be focused on the fact.
What did I say? Again, if we are coming on the relationship, just letting you all know, I dream about food right now.
I guarantee you, in two weeks, there will be a meme page like Bici, Bakchod, Billi. RVCJ will be on that. Ashish Chanchlani now dating. This model. I will say this. It's about January 2022. Actually, recently Gaurav Gupta was here. We were discussing the same party.
This was in Goa. Right. I think, Creators something something's party. Right. And we'd gone for that. And it was important for me to come to that party because that was right off my controversy with Sandeep Maheshwari. And I had to go and meet everyone to say that I don't have a seeing on my head.
What you heard on the internet is fake. It's a lie. And that whole party was very awkward for me. Because frankly, I remember that peak was over. And you were one of the nicest people to me in that party. I remember all the people that were nice to me. I remember all the comments that were nice to me. I remember all the comments that people were making also.
That thing made me feel that you can do it.
Because for a while, everyone stopped picking up the phone. They closed the doors. Because everybody trusted what was said. So for somebody like of your stature, somebody who's been in the game for so long, you're considered a legend in the field. You coming forward and saying that I watch your content,
we'll definitely talk, this that. legend in the field. You can say that I watch your content, we will talk. He was very happy.
But why do people like change based on what's happening? I mean, I don't understand. I have this habit, if somebody is nice to me in person, then no matter what that person has done, it doesn't matter to me. I always believe this person is sweet to me and he was sweet to me. Although I thought, though you'll be very pompous because there are some people
who give so much knowledge. You think that this is their thing and this is theirs. But you're very sweet. So I was like okay.
My knowledge actually situation is... After so many comedians, comic timing has come. But you know that reminds me. Great work on Ekaki. We were talking about this outside as well. I want to say this on camera. When Ekaki's first Twitter feed started getting views, it was a mixed review. And generally, what is a person's expectation? A YouTuber who has made videos,
taking himself as the main character, how well can he deliver a complex form of storytelling? And we have seen this happen time and again in the West as well. People try and it doesn't work out. Actually, people get very like, we have to pull it down. People start abusing. So my expectation going into the show was kind of like that.
But it is... I was so wrong. I mean, I was saying this after the first episode, what will happen now? The mystery part has been written very well. The comedy part is doing justice. Like, I have the vibes of a woman and a ghoul.
Yes, yes, I know.
That's the genre. Like, I'm in that universe where I can laugh now and I can also burst out laughing now. Like, turn on the lights, something might happen. And that's, bro, fantastic job.
Thank you, thank you, Prakhar. Thank you so much. not lying because you are you were also quite honest about certain things and I love that about you and yeah I mean honestly I didn't want to be a complex story telling person I just wanted to entertain people and you know Indian audience is very different as you compare to global audience I give this example everywhere
I was telling someone the other day that... You have seen Spider-Man No Way Home, right?
Okay. So, Spider-Man No... I'll tell you something. I saw Spider-Man No Way Home in America... with the cast, with the American people... versus I saw Next Day Same in Ulaanbaatar. In Housefull. Okay?
Okay.
I had travelled. So, there is a scene where Andrew Garfield saves a character. Quite an emotional scene. People were clapping in America. But people were laughing in India. Because he is a heartbroken lover. So, he cries. After saving the scene, he cries to Zendaya. People were laughing.
So, can you see the difference between Indian audience and global audience? How they receive entertainment? So, I have been fine-t tuned since childhood that they need entertainment. Because of my dad's business. So that's how I made Ek Aaki. Ek Aaki was supposed to be just entertainment.
Nothing too deep. Nothing too like you know I will put symbolism or I will try to give messages through my cinematography. Nothing like that. It was always supposed to be okay you have a good time with your friends.
You enjoy. a story opens up and a new universe is built. Now this universe can go anywhere in any direction. So that was my thing. And has there been any criticism that was bothersome? It wasn't bothersome. I think when the first chapter came, there was quite a lot of criticism.
Because we were loud in the first chapter. Our comedy were loud. In the first chapter, our comedy was loud. It was also supposedly a little bit like what we used to do before.
But you have to do that.
Yeah, I'll tell you what. I'm a big fan of, you said, forget it, I'm a big fan of Priyadarshan.
Love Priyadarshan movies.
All of these, Mala Mal Vicky, Dhol.
Oh my God, bro, right.
I love those films. So what I do is, I'm a 90s kid. We both are 90s kids. So I took that comedy. I tried to mix it with a new genre and give something new to the people. And I feel that comedy is missing.
So some people found that loud comedy to be a little outdated, which is fair, but I still enjoyed doing it. And my audience is used to that. So, after two and a half years I came back,
I wanted them not to feel a little alienated. Immediately...
Funny, making a show on aliens.
Yeah.
I don't want my audience to feel alienated.
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No pun intended.
I didn't want my audience to feel alienated. To feel different. To feel what they are trying to do. So I had to make them a little comfortable. So my channel audience really enjoyed. The first chapter on YouTube, didn't have much criticism in the comment section.
It was outside. Twitter, Reddit, my team used to tell me. So it kind of affected me. But I also had confidence in the show, as it was progressing.
I knew, okay, so I'll tell you what. You saw all the chapters. It was supposed to be a three part film. Three parts, part one, part two, part three. Eka ki part one was where chapter one and chapter two clubbed together.
Eka ki part two was supposed to be chapter three and chapter four clubbed together. And Eka ki part three was supposed to be Chapter 5. So first episode, first chapter was always going to be, it begins like a horror story and ends up showing the UFO. Second chapter was going to be, with the UFO we start, science fiction comedy starts and in the end it becomes a survival drama.
And episode third, third part is full survival action thriller. So I had kept three genres like horror comedy, science fiction comedy and survival drama. So, what happened was... I was a bit scared at that time... when we were shooting the show... that no one will enjoy these three parts.
Because... what do you call it? The attention span is gone. People have got the reels. It's short. So, I thought that the smaller we make...
it will work but it kind of backfired for me. I believe if I had released it in this format, it would have worked better. But you know what, it's still doing great.
But no, I'll tell you something. I'm going to be a little invasive at the cost. We have just met, we have met after a long time. But I would like to take a step towards honesty. And I feel that you, of all the people I know, I didn't follow YouTube in the early days when you, Bhuvan and Carry were there. I only tuned into YouTube in 2020.
I started watching YouTube for the first time when COVID happened. And before that, my YouTube consumption was very academic. Professors, debates, etc. I used to watch such things.
I'm sure, I know.
I can tell by by criticism outside. Because you're a softer guy, more in touch with your emotions, more vulnerable publicly than some of the other people who are studs. So that was this. The second one, I think, is that I have read a little bit of film theory. You being humble about it. I have read a little bit of film theory. And I think that the problem is that it is trying to say too many things. Yeah, I know.
One is that it is horror, and then science fiction. Comedy is the base, it is the spine of your work. And I have experienced Ashish Chanchalani's comedy for the first time on screen. Because I have not seen anything before that. But I understood what it is. The dialogue delivery and the pun used, I understood everything. But he is also going into science fiction. So neither horror is being justified, nor science fiction is being justified,
nor survival thriller is being justified. time director it's a very small mistake. Especially if he's putting freeware on his own money. If you had taken my money to go watch a movie, then my criticism would have been justified. But I'll tell you what, the very reason that you, over any director in the country, is allowed however many, 15 million views?
Oh yeah, I just realized. 150-200 million views? Count it and tell me. 150. 150.
On the calculator. You did the math so fast. So, the fact that you are allowed 150 million views on something is the same reason you are allowed criticism.
Both the doors are the same. Because you will get more chance and you will get more abuse. Our job is to abuse. I know. Right? How much abuse we can take, determines how far we can go. That is why Tanmay Bhatt is where he is.
Yeah, yeah. Tanmay Bhatt, I call him Amitabh Bachchan of YouTube. People call him Karan Johar. I call him Amitabh Bachchan. He is like the most senior person and he is a very smart person. Have you sat with him? Recently. We did a panel in Delhi together. And watching him think is wow.
Yeah, genius guy. You can tell that he has worked for many years. Yeah, obviously he has made AI too. He used to write scripts for so many things. He used to do script doctoring. I know a lot about him.
He used to come on a show. Oh, it's Friday. I don't know if you saw it. He used to host Farhan Akhtar. It was such a fun show. On YouTube? No, it was on TV. It was called Star 1. Sagarbhai vs. Sagarbhai. Crazy. Tanmay used to write there.
I got to know later. I had once talked to someone on the panel... ...that shows like Oye It's Friday don't make it. Tanmay said, I made that. I was like, what the fuck? So, more than half of his filmfare's gags I think Imran Khan, Ranbir Kapoor, Saif Ali Khan, Shah Rukh Khan's gags were also written by Tanmay Bhatt.
I think Tanmay was there and Rohan. Yeah, yeah. These were writers originally. Then they all went into stand-up and all this. So, how's the reception been? How is post-Akaki going?
Is it going well?
Oh, it has been very good. I think the best thing that happened to me is I've been meeting a lot of kids. Kids are really obsessed with the show. And I found that to be a little win for me because when we were kids, we got Koi.
Right? And I always used to wonder since we got Kaya, why we never attempted an alien story? Toh abhi main jab bachon se mil raha hoon, they know the characters, wo Zarg karke jo villain tha, they know him, they know everything about the planet. I met a kid who had sketched out Zarg in his copy, in his book. And I was like, I was so happy. My friend is Jadu, his nephew.
I know, I know, I know, I know. Very ironic. He's saying, we've met since childhood, why didn't we make a movie like this? My friend is Jadu. I know. Yes, yes. I know, audience knows it. I think Prakhar is unaware about it. He's my teammate. That's crazy. Yeah, his name is Jadu. Obviously, it's obviously derived from the film only.
What are you saying? Yes, yes, yes.
Someone saw the movie and thought, his name is Jadu, not Rohit.
No, no, his name is Akash. Once he was coming in the rain in a raincoat. So, his bike broke down. I know him since his tuition days.
We used to study science together.
It was raining.
Can you imagine a boy standing in a silvery raincoat?
he looks like a magician.
Magician, magician, magician.
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Get started freeSo, I called him a magician for 3-4 days.
His family also calls him Jadu. Teacher Sir. Sir, he's been called Jadu in attendance. I know. I know. I know. I know. Very many.
People don't make it for free. If they get someone again, 3-4 lakh more kids will die.
Come on, do the magic. Is this Jadu bhai? Yes, this is him. Oh shit! Yes, he is. Oh, he is in the show too? Yes, yes, yes. Right, he is your sidekick.
He is playing Aryan in the show.
So his name is Jadu. His actual name is Akash. We call him Jadu. So his cousin, his sister's son, he told me that when Ekaki Chapter 5 released, all the kids in the school were talking about Srivikaki. From the third standard to the ninth standard, they were talking about Srivikaki during lunch. They were discussing where this story will go.
And I think that was the biggest win for me.
Kids watch anything.
No, no.
Bro, I'm telling you as an adult, I'm very hard to take to the movies. I'm telling you frankly.
Why?
I don't have attention span.
Okay.
It's largely attention span. No, it's not a bug but... In our work, the phone can be saved anytime. And so you are programmed for... What do you want? Do you understand?
Tomorrow night, you get a call that you have to go to Mumbai the day after tomorrow. So, eventually you are much more like, I don't know, maybe less attention span is the reason. But also because, frankly, I don't really enjoy the experience of the halls.
Okay, why?
I think some of it is childhood trauma.
What? Why? Because my dad used to say that it's not good to watch movies. He's very opposite to your father in that way. So, my dad's property was that good people don't watch movies. These are the people who watch when I was young. So this was one angle.
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I live in Bandra, I go to BKC, everyone is quiet. Nobody enjoys it much. I am used to it. What a fascinating time. It was a fascinating... Can you please maintain the decorum? Please, can you do that? I mean like, it's getting a little loud.
And, bro, you've come to the theatre to watch a movie. Why is the volume so low? I asked, bro, what happened? Why is the volume so low? Oh, you know, patrons are complaining, you know, the decibel levels are high. Right. What's the use of playing the dolby?
So, what you're saying, people enjoy in Faridabad.
I would want that experience any day over these fancy places. But I think people in Ulasnagar are not watching movies after drinking. Here, I mean, my early childhood experience, I remember, there was a movie of Akshay Kumar in which he was in the village, which was Dhin Tata Dhin Tata? I went to a show at 10 am. I was young and didn't have the brain. Even in that show, the 8 people sitting in the hall were out. At 10 am?
Yeah man, because you know, wild stuff happens in this city. So, my experience was that we'll see it at home. But you don't know who to fight with, who is sitting in your seat. So, my early hall going experience was that.
Secondly, I feel like
life is a mess. Faridabad is a mess. Everything is on the road. 500 people have come from all over. You get to the hall and the movie does not deliver.
Then you feel very heartbroken. I fought so hard and spent so much time and now I am gone. Food took so much time and left. Now I don't even have popcorn to eat. It's no longer a novelty. So I wait for the OTT to come and order pizza at home.
Oh, I see. So it's kind of become like that. And I think short form content has a lot to do with it regardless. Scrolls has a lot to do with it.
Yeah, yeah. It has affected affected a lot of people and that was exact reason why my show had too much going on in it because I was in the fear of... Don't leave me alone. Don't leave me alone. I don't... which is wrong actually. Whatever next I'm doing I'm going to take a little pause. I'm going to make sure that... You'll make it slow? I won't make it slow but I won't jumble everything. A lot of things are going on in X2B. I'm trying to do a lot of things. Let's see where it goes.
You wanna talk about it? Yeah, why not? I'm doing something with TVF. Oh shit, okay. Yeah. I've been trying to crack this story with Arunabh bhaiya for a long time. Again, a very different story. In the lines of, this is what it is.
Science fiction?
Yeah, you will find it out very soon. I think it's an announcement in a few days. It's very fun. It's very quirky. So I had this idea. I don't know, they had the same idea.
So we were randomly discussing it. So he's like, my writer is also trying to crack this. You're also, let's do it together. So he's like, he's been supporting me. So yeah, it's that thing and then I am writing a horror film.
But this is a pure horror film. This is not an alien or a comedy. Pure modern horror film that I'm writing. Nice. So you want to be, is this the director-writer side? I want to do everything. I want to be an actor but I want to create content or films that
nobody's creating. But is it that because YouTubers who want to be actors, nobody will cast them so you're making your own movie or you have the same passion for writing and directing as you have for acting? I personally have the same passion for writing and directing as I have for acting. More direction. I think I can be better in writing. I haven't taken any classes. Whatever you have seen in Ek Aakhi, I haven't taken any masterclass.
Whatever experience I had, I wrote a story according to the audience's entertainment and reception. reception ke hisaapse, maine usse hisaapse ek story likhi. Isliye Ekaki also had this very YouTube sketchy feel. It had this relatable friends going on a trip vibe, which in aage chalke it becomes serious with some sprinkle of a story. In the end it becomes very serious. Toh, ya, I want to become a director as well as actor both. But I'm a little confused.
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Get started freeLet's see going forward what I do. But the main thing is that I want to make stuff that really makes me happy. I don't want to go in that rut of stardom.
You sure about that?
Yeah.
That you want to audition and stand in the queue.
I have already done that. Before getting into YouTube, I used to do that. I did already done that. I have already done that. Before getting into YouTube, I used to do that. I did a show also for Alt Balaji. Class of 2017. I'm not really proud of it.
Guys, I need somebody in the chat to make this in AI. Someone please take this moment and put it in AI. Alt Balaji x Ashish Chanchlani. I want to see a clip that goes viral and confuses people.
No, no, it's not that kind of a show. I promise you. But now it will be. No, no, it's not that kind of a show. It was on the classroom, on the college school. Oh God!
This was the first ever acting gig.
Can you zoom in on the poster? I want to see it.
I am in the corner. There I am. Very badly photoshopped. Is this old?
Yeah.
Is this from 2017? Yeah, it's from 2017. And it was shot in 2016.
Yeah.
Were you the comic relief? Yeah. Yes, the fat guy. The teddy bear of the group is what they sold me.
He dies first. When he is a murderer or a black man in American movies. And what a fool they make him. Is there a cyber in this?
No, there is no cyber. So this is the show I did. After this I did a TV show called Pyar Tune Kya Kiya. I have done a lot of things before getting into YouTube.
Oh, this is all before YouTube.
Yes, yes, yes. This was before YouTube. So yeah, there I am.
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proud of it. Can you go back? Oh shit! Yeah, yeah. Oh, you got slapped? Yes, yeah, yeah. Then you'll break up. No one can save you. Yeah, so I'm not really proud of it. Why though bro? Like this looks like a good job to do when you're 19. You must be 19-20 years old. No, no. This is what 2016. I'm 32 right now. 22. 22. No, I was in desperation. That's why I never got a job. I used to work. That's why I was also making content on Instagram but I was not that viral. Nothing like that happened. But yeah, the thing is Prakhar, when I went into that industry, I realized that no one cares about talent and skill here. It is just
sucking up. One person has to do this, that, and make contact with this. And when I was on set, I used to tell them also what is this script. It was taken from a show. Oh, you copied it? Yes, completely. And I was like this is not going to work here. Because at the same time I was making classroom content.
The core reality of what's happening in colleges and schools that somebody has come close to his TVF. Nobody apart from that. Apart from that we YouTubers only make better relatable sketches. So I was like no, let's create something of your own
and go with it. That's why I'm writing this horror film also.
But, isn't this model expensive? It is. It's not less than a few crores. Yes. And the number being floated on socials is
15 crore.
No, thank you for addressing this Prakhar. I want to say this on record. No, Ek Aaki Ka Budget is not 15 crore. 25 crore. 15 crore is a very big number.
For that, yes.
Sorry, sorry, I was just joking.
No, no, no problem. But it is much less than 15. But Prakhar, I'm telling you, in that budget, we achieved a VFX that was better than a lot of films.
Agree.
I can proudly say this. Not because I've done it. Because my VFX team, they worked very hard. Seamless VFX. Yeah. You take the UFO, you take the interior of the UFO, you take the powers,
you take the telekinesis, the wire work. We spent a year in post production. And this was my constant. That everything else is fine, we will work hard on VFX. And we will make sure that we put out a message out there
that it's all about time. VFX is not about money. If you give your artists good respect to your artists, if you do collaborative work with them, they will deliver. Otherwise, I talk to VFX people, it's always very hurried.
There is a timeline. Nobody really understands their process. That's why I believe Brahmastra was so delayed. Because Ayaan was concentrated on making sure that VFX is good. But Brahmastra's VFX was not praised, right? It was good. I'll tell you, Brahmastra, Kalki, Ravan, these three films I believe had the best VFX in Indian history. And they were concentrating, they were making sure that
yes, something good was made. I'm glad they tried. Kalki had fantastic visuals. You remember that movie Makhi?
Yes, of course.
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Get started freeIts VFX was top. You are telling the story from Makhi's point of view.
Rajmouli sir. Is that Rajmouli sir's movie?
Yes.
What?
You had no idea about this? Yeah, that's Rajmouli sir's film. put into this film that I'm sure you are not comfortable disclosing, but I'll ask you once again, what is that number? That goes towards VFX maximum? No, no, no. 80% of it went on action, all set design, props, cameras, technically 20% of it is VFX. 20% is VFX?FX. 20% is VFX, which is not a lot. So whatever the budget is, you will get 20% of it. It is still...
If you compare it to a film, a big budgeted Bollywood film, it is just 1%. So 1% of that budget of a big... Bollywood tentpole blockbuster, we achieved this VFX.
You are giving me a math formula to solve. Yeah. You can solve the math of Bollywood movie. Multiply it by 1% and multiply it by 5.
So whoever can do this.
You will get an idea. Yes, you will get an idea.
Yeah.
So like,
you are getting the money from your own pocket.
Yes, yes.
And so you are okay with that that in the beginning as a director, actor, I'm willing to put my own money. Is that the angle? Yeah, the angle was, Prakhar, I wanted to do this for my channel. I want, I mean, I'll tell you what. I didn't want to do just one thing. I wanted to do something different, man. I was so tired of making the same sketches,
same Diwali, Holi video. And I was like, this is time. I have this, I have the audience, I have the... I saved a little money and said, let's do something, let's get creative for the channel, for... I mean, I wanted to do it. At the end of the day, it was passion. When it was finally made, when we saw it on the big screen also,
by the way, we had a premiere with 300 fans, oh, it was a delight to watch. I met so many people, so many people, Prakhar, that came up to me with scripts. Kids. I still get them, that I want to also make films. I'm also inspired by you,
I also want to make series. I get scripts every day.
Outside the office.
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Kids? Kids are sending. Who want to become filmmakers. I'm also listening to two, three of them to see how serious they are. And there are some brilliant concepts that they have. And I'll make sure that if this grows,
I'll give these people a chance. Because nobody's listening to them. Because even if they take this concept and go somewhere, if they go into the industry, everyone tells them the same thing that it won't work. This thing won't work, this won't work here.
So they need nurturing, they need a guidance that no one gives them. How is it here? It's a mess. Everyone is making a mess. But they are making this spy action genre from the beginning. So for the last 5 years, someone is trying to crack this.
Aditya Dhar has cracked it. He has cracked it by giving it a historical grounding. And then the storyline is great. But everyone has been trying for a long time. But the problem is, Prakhar, in Aditya Dhar Aur Doosron Mein, Aditya has layers in the movie. Did you see Durandar? Of course.
Yeah. Did you see all those scenes where they are introducing characters in Lyari? You see his film, there are layers to it. You settle down with characters. The rest is a formula. There will be a song, an action set piece, four jokes. The audience should be amazed. Aditya went all against it. He made sure it is about the characters.
He made sure it is about the setting. And you understand where they are coming from. He went deep and kept it realistic. Also, what's the right word? Unabashed. Yes. About Pakistan. People like that. I think, pata hai, part of the reason jitna log isko leke surprise ho rahe hain, maine dekhne ki koshish kariye wo propaganda wala angle jo chal raha tha shuru mein. Non-sense hai wo. I was saying that in the beginning. It's nonsense. Bro, I think people don't understand that the mood of the country has shifted.
And now the mood of the country has been reflected quite well in that movie. Now it's right or wrong, you can sit in your time and please tweet it on your armchair. I don't have any special concern. But in fact, it is a reflection of... Do you know whom I was talking to? Do you remember Mehuna?
Yes, yes. Mai Hoon Na's aging has happened in reverse.
I know.
That now that Raghavan was right, whose name is kept on Ravan, and Major Ram is a very hopeful and a delusional man who believes in the hope of peace. And this is a... I am not saying that this is right or wrong.
People sometimes, when I explain a lot of things on my podcast... opinion. They think that I am giving value judgment. I am telling you the factual reality. You keep your value judgment. You are not a wise man. True. It's so interesting that the twist of that movie is how the country has shifted in the last 20 years. It's a movie from 2004-03 if I remember correctly. And now in 2026, suddenly the mood has shifted. And Ranveer Singh's rage, alone, in the midst of Pakistani groups, emptying him from the inside, Major Iqbal may know that he is an insider. All of that is just fantastic to watch.
I know my parents and their generation who loved the movie, who are booking the first day first show. This has not happened in India for a long time. This is an event movie. I have booked tickets for my entire team. I have booked 5-7 extra tickets for my friends.
How long will it take for an event movie to come out? Everyone will watch it in the hall. Otherwise, I haven't been able to go to the hall for so long. So, I think it is a reflection of how the country thinks about...
Yes, true.
Look at cricketers are in the changing room, they don't stop shaking hands. They are friendly. They are cricketers. But the public now wants that this antagonism should be towards the Pakistan and Pakistani administration.
I saw your video also that you released during war, where you were addressing international media. I loved that, Prakhar. That was really good. It's very important. Because the international media has no idea about India and Pakistan. They are very soft.
Actually, you are a bit naive about this. I have seen it very carefully. I have two fears. One is about India and Pakistan's coverage. And the other is about India's coverage globally. One is that I have seen the coverage of Israel and Palestine in America before the war broke out in Israel in 2023.
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Get started freeAnd one is that it is a propagandist coverage. It is a propaganda of some side. And the news is made with the view of making maximum use of America is made in that news. And second, their narrative is snatched from the Israelis and Palestinians. And now the Americans will tell the truth. I saw this very closely that the Palestinian is saying that there is death in my house, the Israeli is saying that there is death in my house,
the American is saying that this is your problem. And at that point you are like, my reality is nothing, my lived experience, my family, no one died, that's nothing. Your morality is everything. Who are you to do American? And I was scared that the day they use the Kashmir issue, American news outlets, to push and pedal certain things, we need to be ready for that.
Secondly, India is now unignorable.
Absolutely.
In the last 6-8 years, the trajectory of India in diplomacy, in the global power circuit, we may not be in the UN Security Council, we are not that big, but now we are a major power. And everyone will have to understand this. Which also means that the propaganda that is going to be against India, you be ready. What language is being used for India, for Prime Minister Modi, for everything else. Which outlet is being used, take care of that.
The way the local media has fooled you, the international media is going to fool you more than that. And so it was very important that someone should clear India-Pakistan's narrative and India's position in English. And in harsh words. What do you think about the racism against India, which I see on X, regarding our street food and Indians, what do they say, we stink and all of that shit. So tell me one thing, is it seeded? Do you think? Is this... Look, this sentiment exists anyway. In that...
Bro, can anyone deny that there is a hygiene issue in India? You and I can deny it. Look into our eyes and say it. It's true. Even if we keep cursing on Reddit or Twitter for it. In India, you go abroad. Any foreigner who goes abroad, you land and see Bombay or Delhi.
And the first thing you see when the airport door opening and you smell that. Can anyone deny that? There is no doubt about it.
No.
Okay. Are Indians not over-represented in globally scammer things? That they sit in Jamtara and have farms, take money from our grandmothers for their pension, and cut us off. They cut foreigners off. So it's not like there is no factual grounding for these feelings. But I think what has happened is that because of AI, entry-level jobs have been abolished. Nobody is discussing this, but in America,
since 2022, entry-level jobs are a flat graph. So, if a white boy who has gone to college, he studied, he will not get a job. And he will see people like me spitting money, beating people. So, he will be hurt. So, his natural enemy. Because it is not like 9-11. If 9-11 happens, the natural enemy will be the Middle East, Muslims. But now what is happening is that jobs are getting over. And who is sitting in the jobs? Our people are sitting. So, there were some factual groundings for this. but then it started to exaggerate. And after that, there was some seeding. At this time, if I think about global media architecture,
it is a very understated thing that how many influencers work for Qatar and Kuwait, how many get funding from Israel.
Really?
This is a very real question.
What are you saying?
This is a very real question. I have no idea about all this. Do you know who Tucker Carlson is? Tucker Carlson is probably one of the most powerful men in American politics right now. He was a figure like Arnab Goswami, he used to come on Fox News. He had a fight with Fox News and he started his podcast, his media network. And suddenly, in the entire right-wing ecosystem, he is one of the strongest voices. Think about, I am using Arnab Goswami's example so that Indians can relate.
There is no comparison otherwise. I don't want to say any defamatory. But think about Arnab Goswami now going independent with Republic. Something similar to what Tucker did. In India, we all knew, even the officials knew, I have a talk with an official,
that Tucker is Qatari funded. Some Gulf money is going into his pocket.
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So,
on behalf of the US President, without the US President giving him anything, he was passing on information to Iran. So, he became a traitor, if that is true. And this is what I mean, that at this time, how much global media and opinion circuit is funded, how much in China, you see those walls, on which phones are kept, and phones are connected to the internet. How many comments that come to you get on Twitter are botted. So at this point, even though I work in media, I say don't believe anything. Everything is a lie. And stop for a while for your mental health.
And you know what I think? Reddit is basically 10-15 people in Mumbai who work in this same circuit, in marketing, etc. They know so much about us. And who else knows so much? Who knows so much about my life, bro? I have never met anyone in the airport who knew so much about my life. Reddit knows everything.
Sometimes, they spread false information. Then, slowly, I got used to it. Now, I have become fat. Now, I feel like, okay, you say it. That one change who I am in person. When you were fat skinned before.
When you were fat skinned before,
then it was making a lot of difference.
It was making a difference then, now it doesn't make that much difference. I am a sensitive person. I always have been like this. So, then, see, Prakhar, Fame comes so much
when you can't handle it. You don't know what to do. You are still a kid at heart. I was still a kid at heart. I still believe I am. I do things out of impulse.
If you think that I have done something wrong, I apologize. I am like this. I don't think much. Every move is not calculated. You know guys, I came all the way to Delhi for Prakhar, by the way. So, I'm very happy that I'm here.
We had sex last night.
F**k you.
Pretty average.
Sorry.
Thank you so much. Thank you so much.
Sex is overrated.
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