Indiana GOP Rejects Trump’s Gerrymander Plan

So I'm looking at this from the outside and thinking, wow, I did not see this coming. Now, there was resistance all along, and they were getting cajoled. What's your read on why this happened today?

It's absolutely extraordinary. You know, the vice president said they have to pick a side, and they did. Now, to be clear, they didn't stop being Republicans. Uh, this is a conservative state. These are conservative legislators. legislators but they figured out that the right thing to do and for them the smart thing to do was to say no to the White House, no to Donald Trump and no to

JD Vance and having spent a fair amount of time around the Indiana legislature I'm gonna tell you just how intense this pressure might have been. These are not full-time legislators. At least last time I checked they don't even have a full time staff member. They often share a legislative aide. So imagine having a day job, being a part-time legislator, and you get a phone call from the President of the United States. You get an in-person visit from the Vice President of the United States. You got

the Speaker of the House in Washington working the phones. That pressure is the Speaker of the House in Washington working the phones. That pressure is enormous and they said no. It's an extraordinary thing.