JANGaN NOnTON KALAU GA KUaT‼️ LETICIA, ANAK SHEILA MARCIA PERCAYA DIA LAHIR DARI ADONAN TERIGU🤣‼️‼️

Why did God give me birth if I'm just meant to be? Why didn't I just die? When I was little, Tisha was there. So, mom was cooking, using eggs and flour. And then, before it's cooked, it's soaked. And then, it's you.

Born from flour?

Tisha really thought that. Tisha was told slowly about mom's past mistakes. Mom told you first? Yes. Because of mom's mistakes before marriage, I want to tell you slowly about my past mistakes. You were a little girl? Yes. Because of my past mistakes, before I got married, I already had Tisha.

But Tisha was not wrong. It was me who was wrong.

I'm really proud of you. You've made a lot of progress. Even if you had a tough childhood, you can change the future. I always feel like I're not good enough. But for me, you're so perfect. Thank you, Na.

I love you so much.

I love you, Mama.

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Oh, we have a guest. So I saw a video, and I saw your speech there, it was so meaningful. It was new, like a new video. It was like life-changing.

Because as long as I saw you in your life journey, I saw

this is it, this see this is a life like a book full of stories, you know. Like Harry Potter.

Yes, yes. From you're a rising star, suddenly you go to, sorry, you go to Narcoba, suddenly you go to your business with Anji, suddenly you go to the world of DJs, suddenly you go everywhere, you know?

Welcome back, huh?

Thank you.

Yo, yeah.

This is definitely starting. We're already starting, huh?

I already know.

While we're watching.

Usually people say, huh, it's starting, huh?

If I don't, it's different.

I often watch.

I invited your friend who is a DJ here.

Don't, don't. I want to invite your DJ friend here. No, please. No, please. No, please. No, please. You're the one who's stressed.

No, I'm just relaxing.

No, I'm just relaxing.

Okay, so because this is a Christmas moment, you're Ryan Natal, right?

Yes.

I'm a follower of Christ.

Since long ago?

Since long ago. Have you know him? I didn't know him because I've never read the Bible. I was born as a Catholic. But I've never read the Bible. I've never read the Bible.

I only go to church every Sunday. It's okay to listen to it. It's just different because I don't have the personal relationship that I have now. And that personal relationship can't be like 1, 2, 3 days

you're like Bestie you can't be like that so the process has to be up and down and I feel because I'm an impulsive person like before

what is impulsive?

impulsive is like without thinking, just do it

do what your brain says

I don't think long. I don't think long. I'm hurtful. I'm full of anger. That's how it is. So, I'm looking for happiness in the wrong place.

How many siblings do you have?

Actually, I'm the only one from my mom's family. I have a brother from my mom's family and a father. My father also has a sister in my mom's family. So, big sister, big brother.

Don't tell me you have that daddy issue too.

I do, actually. The fun fact is, a lot of people said daddy issue, daddy issue, daddy issue. But they forgot, from the daddy issue, it doesn't affect only the child. It affects a wife who should be able to love and love her their child. But it's hard for a woman to be able to focus or be kind or care for her child which is supposed to be done

if she's constantly being driven crazy by her husband. We forgot about that too. So, I think it's a parent issue. When we don't put God in the center. Definitely.

But when you were still a kid, when you started to evaluate, you saw that this was your problem. I was hurt because of this.

I thought I didn't want to blame anyone. I didn't want to blame anyone. Because my dad is doing this, my mom is doing this to me, so I'm like this, this, this. I don't want to do that because I'm afraid

it will be an excuse for everything I do. So I try to be like, it's my fault, it's my fault, it's my fault. But it becomes over-blaming self. Blaming is is not good either. Because it's easy to be manipulated by people.

So, the point is simple, what Sheila wants is just to be loved. Since long ago. Just as simple as that. I just want to be loved. I just told, I once told God when I was young, God, why was I born if I'm just to be loved. I just wanna be loved. And God also healed them, they are amazing today.

Wow, but the rollercoaster was crazy. Crazy, right?

Until I saw them fighting like what, and so on. I was always in the middle, always in the middle. So I wasn't strong. Because it's not my portion to know the problems of parents. But I know everything. So what can I do? What should I do?

I was confused. I was bullied at school too. I didn't have friends. Now, I still ask why. Some people say, not me, I'm serious. Some people say, maybe you're too pretty, you're too dominant.

I'm like, no, that's not a reason.

Yeah, that's not the reason.

And one of his head was once a Miss Ajang, Miss whatever, and he was the winner and all that. And then I just thought, this is my fault, because I chose my life to not go down the positive path. That's why now, because of me, everything actually, but because for the big woman, I said,

you have a decision for your life. Even I made mistakes before, but your life is your life, you can decide, and I promise I will always support you, and give you love,

give my love to you, no matter what.

I don't want to be selfish as a parent. I always support him.

I don't want to repeat what happened yesterday, even though I almost did.

Almost did? Yeah.

Because I think that's the pattern. Sin is a pattern. But we have to break the curse consciously that we have to choose the right path today. And I just learned that we have to say yes to God, not just once.

Receiving God is not just once, but every day we have to say yes to Him. Because temptation also comes every day. And it's not easy.

How do you understand this?

Process, reading books, sharing with others, listening to others, how they are, it can be a strength for me, it can be a mirror for me too. Very interesting. Let's break through first. You were the first to become an artist, so you entered the entertainment world by your own will. Yes. Why did you want to go there? Was it a form of escape or was it a dream you wanted to pursue?

I wanted to be a singer first.

Okay, so that's your dream. You had a smooth start.

I don't know. I felt like, when I was a kid, I was so happy. I was full of disappointment.

Really? You still remember that? Yes. What made you feel that way? You were in the movie, and all that, Rushing Star.

You were famous. I was a lot under pressure.

I couldn't tell anyone. I was a lot under pressure. I can't tell you because I'm going to tell you about a person that I love. I think it's not fair because he's also having a hard time. He's not doing well. He's in the process. I'm confused. I mean, I cannot explain to everybody. I can't explain to everyone. There are people who are saying this and that.

I'm just like, okay, you don't know. Maybe you don't know. So I was confused. I mean, I cannot explain to everybody, right? I can't explain everything. So someone said this, someone said that.

I just said, okay, you don't know what to do. Okay, so I take the conclusion from a story with this person, which then became your disappointment. Two people. Two people, which eventually became a journey that should be fun, but it wasn't. Then why did you end up in that situation?

You're building a career in the West, you're following the trend, and now you're a big diva in the West. It's not like you suddenly switch to Narbah.

At that time, I was with a couple that I fell in love with. We've been dating for almost a year and then I just find out that he's using this. And then I was... Oh my, I was broken.

Because of...

My heart was broken because he was missing. I don't know where he was. Then I met him with... He was already so ugly. And then I was just like... Again, really? Really?

I was serious and all, but then he did this again. He's stupid. I should've just left him and found a better one. Instead, I took revenge. Why did you... I don't know.

I'm confused.

I'm confused too. You know this isn't good, right? And you know it's not good. I can turn back time, I just want to say to myself Sheila. You're too precious, but Satyutu, I'm not. I'll call it. I'll close it Sabar, how do you do the matter to Han? Heart to heartnya deket? Aku ga pernah nutupin apapun dari mama. Jadi pada saat kamu ngelakuin hal itu orang tua tau? Engga dong?

Engga.

Engga dong? Engga. Tapi she knows. Dia tau something wrong with me. Ini, ini, ini ga bener nih anakku. Ga bener nih.

Ga beres gitu.

Akhirnya kamu masuk lah ke dalam.

Jadi kayak rungut gitu loh. It was like a rust, like toxic, like a wrinkled thread. I don't know how to get out of it.

You were finally caught. You were not arrested yet? I was saved. But at that time, have you stopped yet?

Before I was arrested, three or four days before. I told myself that I wouldn't touch it again. Oh, this is the story that you want to stop? Yes, the story that I want to stop. The person is gone again.

Again stressed.

So I was really easy. Because I love him. I'm thirsty for love. When I fall in love, I want to love him, I want to love him. So when I fall in love, I'm really stupid. Like, how? You know? Then when I'm like that, when I'm angry,

the anger is self-destruct. Yes, destroying yourself. That's my bad. When I know he's gone again, I had a dream, he was caught.

It turns out I was caught. So you didn't get caught one who was caught, but it turned out I was the one who was caught.

Oh, so he was the one who was caught?

He was caught in the end.

Oh, he was caught in the end, but you were the one who was caught first?

I was caught first, far.

After that, during the healing process, and all kinds of things, with the things that were caught, did you have an awareness at that time,

that this is not right? When I was inside, I started to know God.

Okay.

In my darkness, I felt much more priceless. I once experienced when I was sleeping, so like, I was dreaming inside a dream. So I was dreaming inside a dream, there was a big figure behind me, his hair was like this,

I could not see his face, and he kissed my forehead from behind. And I felt a very amazing love. His hair was long, and I thought, what is different. The peace is different. From what I feel, I just want to pass it. Like there's no hope in my life. Instead, from that dream, I feel like I have hope that it's zero. What's the difference? With the previous one.

The previous one? The human being.

Oh, yes.

This is different. The love is different. Peace. manusia manusia itulah pokonya oh iya iya kok ini kok beda ya? kayaknya kasih sayangnya beda gitu kok damai gitu apalagi di dalam loh di dalam lagi terpuru kok damai gitu disitu aku coba cari siapa dia aku baca kitab segala macem

tapi ya itu up and down karena Tuhan Yesus itu kan sedalam samudera menurut aku ya firmanah juga dalem Because God is as deep as the ocean, in my opinion. The firmament is also very deep. So I can't do it. I can't do it as fast as that.

If there is someone who is fast, maybe, thank God. But in me, in my life, it turns out that I have a lot of ups and downs. Maybe because I'm stubborn too.

So when you're inside, you start to know, but on and off, finally after that, you turn around again. So you don't go straight, you turn around again.

Because there's disappointment. So a little disappointment, I get angry. A little disappointment, I get angry.

What's the disappointment?

At that time, I was close to someone, and super religious, to the point that it doesn't make sense to me, because I still didn't understand. So at that time, for example, Oh yeah, I miss you. Yeah, let God Jesus hug you.

Like, huh? How? Like, how is this? I don't understand. I don't understand. I really don't understand.

Like, yeah, okay, yeah, I know there's God Jesus. But this is missing someone. Then, okay, God Jesus hug. I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get it.

I don't think so. You just don't understand. I don't understand. I think it was like that. I don't get it. It's weird for me. It's too religious. It's weird.

I was walking with him. I kept making mistakes. I don't know why.

It's like you keep making mistakes. Yes. What I'm most curious about I don't know why I keep getting it wrong It's like you keep getting the wrong guy

Yeah

The one I'm most curious about is you have Leticia there

Yeah

Hi

She covers your ears

Right?

She knows She already knows the story

She knows

Have you told her?

I told her everything

Oh

Especially at her age She's almost 16 Yeah I'm getting more like Oh, you tell me. Especially at her age, she's almost 16. I feel like I can't hide anything from her. How was her acceptance at that time?

You tell me.

How was her acceptance?

Or we just call her adult?

She's still an adult.

She...

I don't know. She... Before there's anyone else, she's the only child who actually see me, the real me, the real Sheila, which other people can't understand,

but she understands.

So, she's like my mini-me. How can that be?

I mean, you don't... Is there anything you hide from her? Since you raised her...

Well, I hid it from her from the beginning, when I was little How Tisha was there, so mama was cooking, using eggs, using flour Then after that, it didn't cook, it was soaked, it became you But actually you can't lie like that, then after that he said, this is big Mama, do you know, actually Tisha believes you, Tisha from flour

So funny

How old is it? So funny Mama tau ga sebenernya Tisha percaya lo? Tisha dari terigu kan? Lucu banget

Umur berapa gitu?

Jadi dia percaya kalo dia tuh dari... Terus ke telun, tiba-tiba jadi gitu

Because kalo misalnya Emang di kayak dia yang asah gitu kan enak ya Mama, papa menikah Kemudian di blessing Tuhan Ini kan ceritanya beda gitu Kita harus cari-cari cara This is a different story, a bit different. We have to find a way. So what if I don't want to? I'm confused too.

So at that time, he believed that he was from Terigu, Asia. Then when he had already received a biological study, he started asking, okay, I said, Mom, you're not from Terigu, right? Okay, so what happened?

Then I told him, I made a mistake, but you're not my mistake. You are a blessing from God. What's wrong is what you did. And you have to know that God is so great.

So we can't limit God. So what I mean is, when you do something wrong, and you respond correctly, not to throw Tisha away, to take care of Tisha with wisdom and to really depend on God, I believe that He will make you great.

From your mistake, He can make you an amazing blessing. Because you are not alone. There are many teenagers in this world who have the same story from the beginning. The bad ones, the imperfect ones, the ones who are messed up. But you can choose.

You can choose to live your life in the future. So, you cannot change the past, right? You can't change what has happened, but you can determine the future.

That's right. You don't have to be like what happened in the past.

And what do we live in this world for? What do we live for? To be known.

Yes, you can. Part of it is okay.

But for what? We have a purpose. The essence, right? Yes, like God gave, for example, the Kodensu here, surely because it's for other people too, for us to be useful to others. If it's just for a lot of money,

in the end, it's probably for the KPK, for example.

Yes, for example.

Yes, KPK.

Right? If it's for your own stomach. So we have to...

Money laundering.

We have to share for others. For the interest of others. Give motivation from others. Not only by talking, but also by actions. With what we have been through until today. Our mistakes can also be a lesson for other people.

But as far as I know, after that you entered the world of DJing. It's not getting hotter in there, right? To tell you frankly, it's the same.

Wow, it's confusing.

Entertainment, business, it's like that. If we're not strong, whether it's a movie, a movie, a DJ, you call it. Business is like music. So, when I was young, when I saw DJs, I was like, wow, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. But there was no chance. Then I made friends with your friend.

That's the beginning? Seriously?

Continue.

Then, the things going, and then he taught me this and that, but then things happened, and we didn't see each other again. I met my current husband, and

he was the one who told me, you're doing everything wrong, this is not like this, so it should be like this. He perfected it again

oh he's a DJ? yeah he's a DJ, producer

oh, he's quiet, just like usual

bro, great you're great, 6 years he's with you

yeah he's a producer, actually a lot cool, cool, cool

and then?

then, yeah I read a lot from him the real DJ and then from there it went up and when it happened to him and Dimas it didn't go well

it didn't go well? yeah we were up and down but it was a marriage first the relationship it was okay he didn't finish with then, he didn't finish with the past. I didn't finish with the past either.

We have our own bitterness. We had to be in a relationship for a year. Then, God worked in our relationship. We prayed together. God made us fall in love all over again. Then, we decided to get married.

At first, we were like, argh!

We were like, argh!

We were like, okay, let's pray.

But then, God brought us back together, and we fell in love again. That's when we decided to get married.

So you're the type of person who's hard-hearted.

Yes.

You're hard-hearted,

and you have strong-willed. How do you talk to a sailor? You have to be gentle.

Gentle, right?

Yes.

If you're like, what's this? I've told you. Oh, it's getting more tense. So, it's like... Do you know when you're gentle, but when you're high, you're like a rock? Do you know? Oh, yeah, yeah.

It's the same.

It's the same.

So when you're high, you're like...

She's getting harder.

Yeah, that's me.

That's you.

And my daughter is like that too.

So you're more like your mom's character, right? Yeah. 100% I'm going to ask you a question. You're in the...

He won't hear his voice. You're the one talking.

Yes, I'm the one talking.

We'll talk about it later.

You come in later. I want to ask you something before you go in. You finally saw your whole life. We can't be completely honest.

Which part did you feel was the hardest part for you? first, when I was admitted

ok, the part we talked about

second, when I lost my two children there are two and three

I don't know this story

yes, I had because God taught me at the end, it was like this, I always took care of the kids, I took care of the kids, from morning to night, at night, I partied.

But still, as a mother, still, but at night, I couldn't stay at home. But it turned out, God didn't want it. Finally, God allowed my children to be adopted. By their father at that time.

Oh, adopted by their father? I was shocked. Of course. Okay, okay.

Adopted first.

I was shocked. Oh, adopted by their father.

Yes, adopted by their father. After that, I was broken too. I prayed. Then God talked to me. He said, Fix yourself first, karena mereka bukan membutuhkan ibu yang sempurna memang, tapi mereka membutuhkan ibu yang kuat dan memang udah ready untuk, you know,

prioritasnya tuh anak-anak gitu. Jadi gak egois. Ibu yang sehat lah. Iya, ibu yang sehat, bukan ibu yang selalu ngerasa, I always feel broken, so I always have an excuse for myself. I'm like this, I'm already suffering, I need this. No, if you already have a child, nothing about you.

You can't, you have to throw it away. So you have to have one child. We're talking about a single mom. Yes. Okay, then after that, after God taught me that, I got married to Dimas, and then there was a pandemic. Yes.

After the pandemic, we really had a shortage of jobs, it went down completely, I didn't have a job at all, Dimas's salary was reduced by half, I've told you this, we only live on up to 2 million per, we live with only 2 million per month.

Oh, only 2 million per month?

Yes, 2 million per month. Dimash, me, Leticia, Oma. Oh, to meet that?

Yes.

2 million? Yes, but we live and there is just.

There is just.

Suddenly there is an endorsement, there is a settlement, there is a help. Oh, hopefully God's way is really amazing. It's really amazing. Before, there was no endorsement, suddenly there's an endorsement. I was like, what is it? It's really weird. My engagement was not too good at that time.

But God gave it to me, so it's really amazing. Okay, after that, suddenly, we tried to do a podcast and all that.

You made content?

Yes, I made content. It was not bad, we got quite a bit. I made a podcast with my husband. Then, in the middle, there was an offer. He became a music director in Semarang.

Okay.

There, Semarang is a place where the kids are.

Your two kids?

Yes, the kids that were adopted by their father.

And?

And, Dimash also said this once, when we were married, he said, I promise I will have them back for you. Because he saw it himself when I had our son who was one, two, three, four. Yes. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Jerome.

He saw me crying almost every day, missing Nyle and Precious Brianna. He promised, suddenly God gave him a job in Semarang. We thought we would be there for years, but it turned out to be only one year. Then I asked the kids, Mom will come back to Bali, what about you? Do you want to stay here or join? And both of them want to join.

Okay, but from the father, it didn't hold up or?

A little, but everything goes well.

Everything goes well, right?

Yeah, of course. It's normal, right? Yeah. Like, suddenly the kid has to take it again. Because co-parenting in your position is really difficult, right? No, of course, yes.

I mean, it's a challenge. But if it's difficult, no. No, right? No. Can you give some advice for those who are co-parenting? The thing is, I think, as parents, first, we're not always right. We can learn from our children, that's one.

And second, sometimes if there's something we don't understand from our children, we should try to spend our time trying to understand what's really going on. Sometimes there are children we don't understand, and they choose not to tell us. So, take your time to ask, okay, why, how, and evaluate.

And let them know that whatever they feel is valid. And let them know that we are there as parents, not only to dictate to them, but also to help them find a solution to get out of the feeling that they are feeling. Okay, as long as you are a parent who is co-parenting, what obstacles do you usually encounter? Co-parenting means with the ex, right? Yes, with your ex? That's hard. That's hard.

But, for me, it's more like what does the kid want? If you don't find it, the problem is between you two have egos, you can hit each other, right?

So, both of you have to be as energetic. How old is the kid? Let's say from a young age. If from a young age, it's hard. I'm I was not perfect, I couldn't prove anything at that time, I thought, it's okay. Oh, you lost more if you were co-parenting? Yes.

Not too? Because at that time I was wrong too, even though there were no children at that time, but I did one thing that was easy to attack and in the end I didn't get any children at all. So I better correct myself first then I will be happy

You think more about the mental and children's condition than you have ego So you on one side, let me deal with myself It's okay, I give up

I'll heal first

That's a sacrifice too, not all mothers want it Not all fathers want it too So co right? Not all fathers want it that way either. So co-parenting is the most difficult thing. That's why I sometimes think, co-parenting? They're just separated.

What is co-parenting? Yeah, you're actually really right.

Yeah, but we're hoping for the best, right? For the sake of the kids, of course. Okay. There's a question from our netizen in 1203. Planet Line. Have you ever seen kids with bad behavior from outside?

The behavior is not only words. But from their friends, I don't think so. There are some, but not too bad. Because they can stand up for themselves.

But from netizens, yes.

Oh.

Yes, really.

But define, it means hurt their feeling.

Hurt my feeling.

Hurt your feeling.

Actually, Tisha already knows. Sometimes I also ask her, how do you feel? She's like that.

So she reads it too?

Of course. She has a flashmob. I think she's more emotional than me.

Of course. She's a pro-tech. Because I saw you in an interview, you were angry with the comments by netizens when Letisha won as a girl of Sampul 2025 Let's call her again Sa, come here This conversation is not that hard anymore

She's been waiting for a long time

Let's drink first

So good

Tea, capsulo

Come here

Sit down I'm sorry Teh Cap Solo Now, sit down I didn't know, you're so pretty Congratulations How does it feel to be a woman?

Girl

Girl, yeah

How does it feel to be a girl?

I'm so happy.

Happy? That is your dream?

At first, I didn't have ambition to be the winner. So, I joined for the experience. And then, I got into the top, passed the top, and then passed the semi-final. After that, I thought, I just want to be in the final I passed the semi-final. After that, Tisha was like,

she wanted to be in the finalist, but she didn't want to win. It's not that she didn't want to, it's just that she didn't want to. It's okay. But, when she became the finalist,

she was like, I want to win.

Yes, it's normal. It's good. It's a positive thing.

She's growing. Growing, yeah.

No, she's just being herself. Because Tisha also, because also from the KNG, KNG also said that if we join a competition in Sampo, we have to just be yourself, we don't have to memorize. Who is KNG?

Chief.

Oh, that person there.

So he said just be yourself. So, Tisha didn't teach anything, so just answer. Okay. I don't know, so I just answer it and then show my talent, I just show my talent so, it's okay, and then it turns out I'm really happy

what do you think your talent is?

Isha's talent

what do you think?

singing

okay, so you can sing, right? I can can you test it? one lyric no, no how can a singer not be tested? I've paid for it don't I'm shy so funny I want to test it first because

your dad can't sing anymore his voice is gone

why did I say that?

so funny

but your dad knows

don't say that

I'll throw up

okay

it's thin it's gone too okay okay yeah just a little bit brush it

it's gone

so funny

so funny

just let it be

come on

how can i do it?

try it, close your eyes

i'm shy let Yes, try it, be thin. Let's close our eyes, everyone.

Close your eyes, everybody.

When we close our eyes, the monitor will be the leader.

The monitor will be the leader. Try it. Suddenly, it's different.

Okay, close your eyes.

All I want for Christmas is you I don't want to. I'll ask you out later. To be honest, I'll threaten you from behind. No, no, don't be a nepotism.

Oh, nepotism?

Yes, don't.

Yes, at least I'll go in.

He's the most anti-it. No, he just wants to be successful by himself. He wants to be successful by himself, huh? Yes, that's why Tisha is so angry. I'm so annoyed when I see the comments from netizens like, oh whatever, whatever they say I'm not angry but I'm angry when I see comments like, what are you doing

joining Gadi Sampul? Her parents already have a name and she's going to be helped by her parents, she's already easy it looks easy whereas I'm the one who's

the purpose of joining Gadi Sampul is to make a name to show my own talent. That's why I'm so angry. I don't want to just follow my dad's name. Because I've always been like, Oh, his son. His son is this, and that.

Who is this? Who are you?

Yeah, like that.

What do you call him?

Dad. Dad, like that. Yeah did you call him? Papa.

Papa's son.

And then?

That's so funny.

I was quiet.

I was quiet, I got hit.

I got hit. I finally have his ace card. His ace card. His counter.

My son. And then Tisha got mad. Oh, yeah, yeah Counter I'm a kid After that, Tisha was upset Yeah, I'm not upset Tisha was proud Like, they know my mom But Tisha was also upset

Like, you guys don't see me But yesterday Tisha started posting on TikTok Then people already know Tisha, you're the one who always post on TikTok, the one who always dance And I was so happy

That's why I wanted to join Sample Because I...

Wanted to be known by people Because of Diri herself

She always like,

Oh she knows me from TikTok!

Like that

But I think we all are like that

MAU SHI NUSEN PIKESU MY DANSING

this and that

yes, I love you I think all kids want to be able to come out of their parents' shadow if the kid is like that, he will be like

okay, so what are your dreams in the future? to be a movie star

a staff What do you want to be in the future? A movie star? A petinju.

You like boxing?

No, no, no. A singer?

A songwriter? An actor?

I want to be a singer who can dance.

So you can dance and sing at the same time?

Because it's my passion. I can dance and sing. the same time Yes, because it's my passion I can dance and sing But I really like to dance Because when I dance I feel like I can express myself So besides singing

I also want to dance

Who taught you how to dance?

I taught myself

You taught yourself?

Yes, I taught myself I thought you're self-taught I thought you're self-taught So you learn from TikTok? So you learn from TikTok?

The hardest one is the father

The hardest one is the father

Please understand So you learn from TikTok? So you learn from TikTok?

So Tisha started from... So Tisha started from... beginning actually, when she was little she liked TikTok, then she stopped then Tisha started again so, Tisha learned from TikTok, from YouTube

Tisha just watched it then she had her moments of being shy insecure, there were a lot of moments so, I had to be masked up no, you're pretty, you're beautiful, you're talented, and all that

So I have to believe in him It was like, no, I'm ugly I'm like, no, you're not, babe

You're special

Have you ever felt that you're not pretty? Really?

Which part of you do you think I'm pretty? I think your dad is perfect for me

I love to talk with women Okay, let's continue. I'm sorry, I won't tell you. Okay, later.

I wish.

Let's continue.

What do you think is not okay? Let's try to evaluate. Hair.

You don't think your hair is good? Because I was bullied. Why?

They said it's ugly and messy. What was the shape of your hair when you were bullied?

Slick

Slick

Thin, and straight

Straight, thin

Oh, it was curly

Your hair was thick

What did you say when you were bullied?

How did you usually react? First, Tisisha was like this.

Like this.

Like this?

Yes, like this.

That's right.

Back then, Tisha was like this.

Tisha went home and said, Umma, this is Tisha's hair. She said this.

Umma, like this.

Oh, report

because he also criticized

omak, right?

so he was also emotional

he was angry, right?

everyone who is criticized in the world will be angry

like that, yes

yes, then

what else?

what else is said, uh, what do you feel lacking in yourself?

uh, forehead

forehead, do you feel your forehead?

this is good, our forehead, oh my god Jidat? Kamu merasa jidat kamu? Ini bagus loh jidat kita. Jidat nong-nong tuh bagus loh.

Oh nong-nong!

Iya, depan belakang lagi nong-nongnya. Oh, belakang, depan.

Iya, jadi kalau pakai topi susah.

Iya, kalau pakai topi.

Oh, jadi orang bilang jidat kamu gak bagus atau kamu yang ngeliat... Kami sendiri. Yeah You don't want to go anywhere? No, it's not proportional Oh, so it's wide Oh, my nose is like this

Now it's better for you? Now it's not wrong at all

Okay, that's it. Anything else? Eyebrows Why eyebrows, Munah?

It's so thick

It's pretty, it's so thick, it's good

Yes, no need to do it No need to be polite. That's why I think about what happened to me.

Oh, insecure. So you feel that there are a lot of yourself that are not good enough. After that, you can start to accept. Now, does that mean there's nothing that you can't accept?

No.

Okay. Now, what about... No. Okay, what about your parents' story? Can you accept it now? Can you accept it if you were born from wheat?

I really thought so. I found out, I found out, I found out, I stopped believing. I didn't believe that I was told when I was 10 years old.

But I thought that the child was just there. That's why I only knew when I was in junior high school. That's why I only knew 2 years ago.

Only knew. That's normal.

I thought that people get a married couple, magically. But it is magic, it is a miracle.

Yeah, it's magic. I was confused, I was like, why do I have a child? I just found out about it on the infotainment.

Yeah, I know.

Oh my God.

That's another story.

I was wrong.

I was like, that I said it wrong.

So, that's how it is. If you're old enough, we'll go to the next chapter to learn how to make a baby. For now, that's it.

So, baby is from a miracle.

There's already education. Yes, there is. Biologically.

I'm surprised. Yes, it's normal. I'm surprised too. I'm still surprised sometimes. Okay, here's an interesting question for you. While you were in school,

you were friends, were there any bullying that you felt, I need to ask my mom about this?

No. No.

No?

Because my mom is also transparent. Like, at Tisha's age, she told me slowly about my mom's past mistakes. Your mom told you first? Yes, because my mom didn't want Tisha to be hurt by others. She heard it from others first. That's why you hurt by people. Listen to people first.

Yes, listen to people first. That's why you told me first. Oh, that's very wise. And then?

So, Tisha, if you listen, it's like, well, it's been a long time, right? So, Tisha, yes, no. No problem. No problem. Except. Tisha, you know, Yang sebenarnya, yang seharusnya, yang benar adalah Perempuan dan laki-laki menikah, Kemudian baru Tuhan karuniakan anak.

Nah, karena kesalahannya mama, Sebelum menikah, Mama sudah ada Tisha, gitu. Tapi Tishanya gak salah. Yang kalah mama, yang berbuat. Tisha itu tetap ada,

Karena Tuhan tenun Tisha With wholeheartedly with the love of God to Tisha in her mother's womb. Why? Because she has a purpose. So it's not all about me, it's not all about you. Maybe we will be insulted and everything, but in the end, everything's all for God's mercy. And once again, it's not just me who went through that, and not just Tisha who went through that, that's why I really want her to continue to go on the right path

and continue to pray every step of the way. If she falls, of course, everyone will fall, but...

Rise. Rise and respond. Everyone fell, but... They rose.

They rose and responded. And at least, they have a backup from Shilla now so that they can take care of themselves much better than Shilla. Yes, that's from the experience of the parents. But the most important thing is how it is communicated to the child. Yes, and I also said,

please, I think the hope of God to Tisha is that, according to Mama, you are the one who breaks the curse consciously. If there is no more unmarried pregnant in this family, from you.

And I believe that, it must be declared, it must be said. Yes, women must be able to protect themselves. And Tisha can definitely do it. you are precious no matter what Okay, Tiza, this is the best opportunity for you at this Christmas moment. Is there anything you want to say to your mom or want to ask to your mom? This is your time. Mom, it's up to you. Do you want to ask or do you want to say?

Tiza, I don't have any more questions.

No more questions?

No.

There's nothing you want to know?

It's so beautiful, son.

Is there anything you want to say at this Christmas moment? Yeah, I'm so proud of you Because I can be like this I'm the way I am because of you. Even if I didn't succeed in breaking some of the curses, you accomplished so much. You made a lot of progress.

You also changed so much. You proved that even if you had a tough childhood you can change the future you know get you can't change the past but you can change the future and you're a perfect example for that and you are my future and I'm so proud of you that mama bisa, Tisha tuh happy banget, mama bisa raise me mile and etches so so wisely so wisely even though you went through so much and

I know that you don't feel like you're a perfect mom. I always feel like I'm not good enough.

But for me, you're so perfect. Thank you, son.

I love you so much. I love you, too.

I want to say something.

That's a tissue.

Oh my God, I'm so sad.

Oh my.

In a moment like this, you probably won't believe what happened in your life.

When he was in the womb, I couldn't count how many hands were on my stomach. They always said, this girl is amazing. So I do believe, from the first day that I had her,

she's gonna be someone better than me. Way better. Like, she's the version of Sheila, of course, because she's my daughter, it's impossible for her to be different from me. But she's like a version that's much better. And I believe that because I believe in God.

Because I can't take care of her 24... I'm sorry, I can't take care of him 24x7, but God can. So when I feel like I can't do it, or I feel too worried, I can't do it because of him, I can't do it because of myself. I really ask God, I ask God to give my children's lives and souls to you

because I know that in your hands, my children will be safe. Not in me, but in you.

In my terms, it's not better than you, but it's a complement. Because your children are there to complement their parents. What is the fault of the parents is fixed by the children. What is the fault of the children is fixed by the children. What is the fault of the children is fixed by the next children. So that they become one unit that is perfect for the glory of God. If we can close this with a Martian sailor who is now talking to the Martian sailor who was

Imagine he is in front of you with all the journey you've been through together, with every rollercoaster and every pain that you have to handle. What are you going to say to her?

I forgive you.

So you forgive her?

I really still do not process but I do forgive you. And thank you for being so strong and not breaking. Even if you are in a mess, you still choose God. Even though people see me like I don't have Jesus in my life, but I always look to God. Because sometimes I can't help it.

And still in the process. Still in the process. help it. And let this Christmas be a day of remembrance for us, that forgiveness is always there for all and love, Christ accompanies us wherever we are. Merry Christmas. Merry Christmas.

Thank you so much.