Jeffrey Sachs BREAKS DOWN Trump Zelensky 'PEACE' Summit

Have a nice Tuesday. We have an amazing program for everyone today. What do we have, Krystal? Of course, we have a great program today. The only and unique professor Jeffrey Sachs will join us to discuss yesterday's summit in Ukraine. He also suggested the idea that maybe there are simply no choices for war, so ... I want to copy Ukraine. There is a lot to remember and discuss. We also ask the question whether Gavin Newsom intends to meme to become president? There is also a bit of a strange rumour, so uh, we'll explain it to you. Chef ADL is just lying about Zoran Mandan.

So we have a few accounts on this topic and a few, uh, quite significant events, Israelis will probably decide that they just want to continue the war. But we wanted to give you these details, as well as a few other updates. Before we move on to the program and this interview with Professor Sacks, Sager had great, very important news yesterday. Maybe you can tell people what you found and what you managed to get. For our Premium members, I threw it in yesterday evening, to give you the message, but basically, you remember the story of Tom Alexander Wich, an Israeli government official who was involved in the FBI operation related to the use of sexual children. I managed to get some documents from the arrest, and specifically, notes from the interrogation. In the documents, we found information that Alexander immediately presented himself as an Israeli state official. FBI agents and HSI who were listening to him said, in fact, we will contact the embassy on your behalf.

This is in clear contradiction with the statement of the Prime Minister's Office, which claimed that it did not know about his arrest. He said that he must immediately board a plane to Israel. As if he was clearly giving an understanding that he must organize a return trip to Israel after he was dragged into the action. And most importantly, he was here basically in the government's interest to take part in a conference for cyber security specialists dedicated to hacker attacks. He met with FBI agents and had a meeting with NSA, so with our own security institution. All this is documented in the documents that we were able to see. So we gave up earlier to support our premium programs and you know, if you can support such journalism, go to breakingpoints.com if you can. We will not keep it behind the wall of paid content or anything like that. Today I will reveal it all publicly, but it was important to first pass it on to our premium subscribers. Another detail concerns a secret agent who

was trying to get a 15-year-old. Oh, I didn't even mention the crime itself. It's disgusting. What, as you know, supposedly happened here, is an agreement to meet this 15-year-old to have sexual contact with her. He didn't know it was, you know, a secret agent who was supposed to take her to Sertosol and with... Class! Very disgusting! Absolutely disgusting! It's the guy the government said, oh, let's make sure you get on a plane to Israel. Linda avoided punishment. Meanwhile, other people who were involved in it, were arrested, have court proceedings and so on. So...

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Interesting. Really interesting. We will still follow the case. I hope I get more. And by the way, if you are from the police department in Henderson, FBI, HSI, if you are involved in this investigation in any way and you want to talk, write to me. Let's talk. Okay? Because you know, I will knock on your door and I will hit it, or virtually, to try to reach you. There are a few more tropes that I would like to examine. There are a few very interesting things potentially behind the scenes. In any case, we have Professor Jeffrey Sachs available. Let's begin. With great excitement, our friend Professor Jeffrey Sachs welcomes us, who is, of course, an outstanding geopolitical expert.

He will help us analyze yesterday's Trump's summit in Ukraine and Europe. Professor, thank you very much for joining us. We appreciate it. It's nice to be with you. So, Professor, first we will go through this, so that you can help the audience in discussing this, fragment by fragment, and each of the things that it represents.

For us, the most important topic that appeared at the top was that Trump does not exclude the presence of American troops in Ukraine to ensure security guarantees in the style of Article 5, but that it is a kind of great peace agreement with Russia. Here Trump refuses to exclude this. Your team was talking about security guarantees. Could this concern American troops? Trump refuses to rule it out. If it comes to security, there will be a lot of help, it will be good. Oh, oh, they are the first line of defense because they are there. It's Europe, but we will also help them. We will be involved. We will be involved, professor, so I do not deny or fundamentally exclude E.

It does not send American troops to Earth. E. There were several other cases during the meeting when calling for a guarantee in the style of Article 5 was made by many European leaders. Of course, we hear from the Kremlin, but first we want to know your reaction to what this means for the general situation and rhetoric of Trump and what it may potentially mean for any peace agreement. Well, I don't believe that we had 11 years of war and that the war is about to end, and therefore that the United States or Europe say that they will have troops on the ground or agreements in the style of Article 5. This whole war started because the United States pressed on NATO to surround Russia and reach as far east as possible.

So I don't think that the Russian side should say, clear as you like. What we saw yesterday, I wouldn't say that it was a master's lesson, but a lesson of ambiguity in everything. Nothing was clear. Nothing was entirely true. Nothing was decided. But there is a common belief that Ukraine is losing on the battlefield. It is common that the American political scene will not continue any large-scale war, directly or otherwise, with Russia. And that's why we need to do something to end this.

But the details are as unclear as possible and purposefully. And Trump believes that the way to contain the agreements is to prorogate, to do things unclear, to keep everything behind the scenes, to involve everyone as a friend, to say yes to everything in a direct way. But in my opinion, this will not end on guarantees such as Article 5. Yes! The Russians have been fighting this for over 30 years.

They have been fighting this war for 11 years, because this war started in February 2014, when the United States was plotting to overthrow the neutral government. And the Russians won't just say, Yes, Trump, you're our friend. You can send the army if you want.

I don't believe it. I think it would be a terrible idea if the United States had an army in Ukraine. Well, and going back to what you said, you could display the A4 format on the screen. The Kremlin has a negative reaction to the proposal of Article 5, I am a bit distant, Professor, but I would like to know your opinion on the main points of dispute for the Russians. What kind of agreement would they be interested in? What conditions would the United States, Ukrainians, Europeans, the West have to meet to estab make some great peace agreement and end this war. We need to understand where the war came from and how it can end.

The war began with the continuation of the Cold War after 1991. People thought there was peace, but the CIA, the military-industrial complex, continued its efforts to weaken Russia. Binski spoke about the collapse of Russia into three parts in an article from 1997, saying that perhaps a loose confederation of European Russia, Siberian Russia and Far Eastern Russia. But the USA's plan was that Russia should be finally fundamentally crushed. The Cold War was going on with the Soviet Union, but it was not over yet. We dominate. We won.

And on this basis, Clinton began to expand NATO. I say Clinton, because basically every president then was following giving orders to the military-industrial complex. Clinton-Bush-Obama-Trump won Biden and uh, maybe this will end this crazy, uh, 30 years have passed since NATO's attempt to push Ukraine and Georgia into the South Caucasus, where the US has been interfering to this day. The point is that Russia is a big country, and therefore should be a weak country, according to the US strategic doctrine. Good. We overthrew the government in February 2014 and established the Pronatovsky regime.

Russia immediately regained Crimea at this point, because the government, after the coup d'état in Ukraine, said, Good, we want Russia to leave. It was the same idea that the British and the French in 1853 proposed to the United States. The United States, and let's say the deep state, said that we want Russia to leave. The United States, and let's say the deep state, said that they wanted Russia to withdraw from there. It was the same idea that the British and the French tried to drive Russia out of the Crimea in 1853 in the Crimean War.

Okay, enough of history. The heart of the matter is that Russia does not want to be surrounded. It does not want NATO's presence. It does not want security guarantees such as Article 5. It does not want Western troops on the ground. I want Ukraine to be at least a neutral buffer zone between the United States, their full-blown allies and Russia. This is the heart of NATO, just like nothing that is NATO, such as NATO or NATO, you know, French, British and German troops, and that's what it was all about in the whole war.

The second Crimea will never come back. This is absolutely clear. It was Gambit. It was a step to take over Crimea. And the whole idea that Binski presented in 1997 was that if we manage to get Ukraine and push Russia out of the Black Sea, Russia will not have power in the Middle East, it will not have power in the eastern part of the Mediterranean. And that was part of the strategy, so Crimea will remain. Then there are the territories that Russia annexed until November 2022. These are two in the east and two in the south.

The idea is based on two points. First, at least in the East, these are ethnically right-wing regions, in which Russian residents predominate. In 2015, Donbass and Russia declared that they wanted to make them autonomous. We don't want them as a territory, but we want to make them autonomous by the power of the Treaty called the Minsk Agreement.

The United States, usually in the phase of expansion, told Ukraine that it does not have to honor this agreement.

Russia did not claim the rights to these territories, they only said that they should leave the Russian language, Russian ethnic origin, etc. And Ukraine, after the coup, said that we will accept them as a unitary state. So Russia regained them. Now it is growing the right to them, because the agreement between the two of them fell.

I think this map is very important, sir. If you look at the areas in red, this is it. I think this is probably the most accurate, as possible.

This is the United States, you know. The interviewer created this map for the president in the oval office he used. And when you said, you can see what percentages were given here by the American investigative community. If we zoom in, we will see that about 70, 80, 90% of the provinces you mentioned, or, I'm sorry, those areas you mentioned are controlled by Russia. As you can see on this map, this confirms a lot of what you are saying.

The basic idea is that, ironically, before the United States launched a coup in February 2014, Russia did not even have the right to these territories at all. Not at all. We have been a scapegoat for Ukraine, because it is typical for CIA, to put it bluntly. We are losing to our alleged friends. So when the coup d'état of the IKI, the new central government in post-coulombian Ukraine, took place,

it announced that it would deal with ethnically Russian regions in the east and south.

Russia negotiated a treaty to stop what was then the beginning of the war, called the war in Minsk, and then the Minsk agreements II. The idea was that these regions, especially II in the east, Lugansk and Donetsk, were to be autonomous. Interestingly, the small recipe, this model, was a European model in Italy. There is a German-speaking region called South Tarol, which has autonomy in Italy. Actually, Merkel, who was then the German Chancellor, knew about it and said that the Minsk 2 agreement could be modeled as the South Troll.

In other words, an autonomous region in Italy, but German-speaking, but very calm, very successful, very beautiful, with great ski and tourist opportunities, to put it mildly. And they said that this could be a solution. The United States did not want to agree to this. And extremist nationalists in Ukraine did not want to agree to this. They said no, no autonomy, a unitary state, and wasted their chances of maintaining these provinces, because after the invasion of Russia, they control almost the whole. This is what shaded areas on the map show. Control of the front line, control of the battlefield, which Russia is doing over these areas.

Where did it lead us to today? Ukraine cannot regain these territories otherwise than through a huge war, which could end with a huge defeat, mass sacrifices, mass escalation to a nuclear war. So it really cannot regain them. Ukraine has repeated every day, we will never give up a square meter of our territory.

Impossible, it all belongs to us. European leaders who were there yesterday, shared these lines. Well, what is the alternative? The alternative is to continue the fighting. If the fighting will continue as now, Russia will simply take over these regions, will take over the territories through Ukraine

and finally, in my opinion, in the current scenario, Ukraine will be simply defeated.

The tough-headed war pioneers In the current scenario, Ukraine will simply be defeated.

The tough-headed war criminals, and Mertz is a real war criminal. In addition, in my opinion, he is really disgusting. Every word of his is another war.

In principle, they say, let's escalate

We won't give up, not even a inch Well, it's been going on for 11 years I don't think Trump wants this, I don't think his electorate wants this I don't think Americans want this, Ukrainians don't want this The latest Gallup study on Ukraine says, stop this war. We are exhausted. Over a million Ukrainians have died. This all means that there is no NATO, Ukraine is neutral, Crimea is ours, and these four territories are disputable. It is likely that Russia will recognize these areas and that peace will last Perhaps Ukraine will not recognize them in the end The duty, however, is that if the war ends, these areas will be under, let's say, permanent control of Russia.

In support of Merz's argument, the German Chancellor set a condition that seems very important, because one of the purposes of this meeting was the final introduction of Donald Trump, Vladimir Zelenskyski and Vladimir Putin. It turned out that in the European Union and among the main NATO powers there is a divergence regarding the conditions for this meeting. Chancellor Merz was probably the most pessimistic in his language, demanding an immediate suspension of arms as a condition. Gentlemen, let's go further and listen, please. A3. of the and let's try to put pressure on Russia, because the credibility of the efforts we are making today depends on the suspension of arms from the very beginning of serious negotiations, starting from the next stage.

I would like to emphasize this aspect and I would like the suspension of arms to take place from the next meeting, which should be a three-way meeting, regardless of where it will take place. It can be seen that he is talking about an immediate suspension of arms. He was the most pessimistic in his language, but he was supported by Emmanuel Macron. I also noticed that although Donald Trump said in his post on the social portal that there would be a meeting between Zelenskiy and Putin, and then a three-way meeting, Zelenskiy did not mention any future meeting with Putin in his later comments. It seems that Trump wants this, so the condition of the suspension of arms seems to be the way in which the European Union and the main powers of NATO, including Zelenski, can withdraw from future diplomacy.

Maybe I see it wrong? You know, no one speaks directly. Maybe it's to be predicted, but that's why we're constantly at war, because there's dishonesty everywhere. There was no honest discussion.

What are the alternatives? Merz didn't say a single thing I would agree with, since he became Chancellor. And I would say that this also applies to the Germans, because Merz's popularity is declining, and his ratings, let's say, are declining. They have dropped to about 30%.

He gained the support of the majority, as is done after the winning elections, and it is falling, because his views do not make sense.

Russia will not agree to a ceasefire without solving the problems we are discussing. This is the position of Russia, which is understandable. In my opinion, from the very beginning, we are in a state of war for a number of reasons. Van Loofwitz, a German theorist of the war of the 19th century, famously said that war is a continuation important observation. This is a war on politics. This is a war on NATO. This is a war on relations between the US and Russia. This is a war on the fact that the United States is abolishing the government without punishment.

In addition, it seems that the rule applies that after abolishing several governments, one goes on retirement at the University of Columbia, as my colleague, because we have Victoria Nuland, we have Hillary Clinton, we have Mike Pompeo. I don't know, and they teach diplomacy, it's incredible to me, but it's part of what this war is about, that is, that the United States acted without punishment after 1991 and assured us that it would be so. The New American Century project said, Hey, we are not just a big kid in the neighborhood, we are the only kid in the neighborhood, we are the only superpower, we are the police of the world, we are the rulers of the world, we do what we want.

That's what it was all about in this war I think that Trump probably understands that Americans have had enough of this And by the way, these are not the end of the war, it's not just about this war These are wars in the Middle East, which Israel is dragging us into. Absolutely destructive and disgusting wars. And the Americans have had enough of it.

No one speaks directly. Trump does not explain anything after Alaska or yesterday. There is no speech from the Oval Office. There is no explanation. We live in different times than the ones I remember. Not that everything would be perfect, but if President Kennedy wanted to sign a treaty with the Soviet Union, he would pronounce a speech, and people would analyze it and understand it, and so on.

Now we have real posts in social media that are completely ambiguous, they mean nothing, and we are trying to understand what these words mean. And you can reverse them the next day, in addition to saying the next day do exactly the opposite when he is with someone else. I wanted to ask you what role Zaliński plays in all this.

Let's say that the atmosphere between him and Trump was completely different this time than the last time when Zliński was in the Oval Office. Come on, guys, let's play A2. We had a very good conversation with President Trump. Very good. And it was really the best conversation, sorry, maybe the best will be in the future, but it was really good and we touched on very sensitive issues.

The first of them is the security guarantees and we are very pleased with the President that all the leaders are here, and security in Ukraine depends on the United States, on you and on those leaders who are with us. Professor Zagardi noticed that it seems that he really worked on his English. He clearly realizes that it is very important for him to be able to maintain effective relations with President Trump, but you know, you said before that it looks like the Ukrainian people are exhausted and want to end this war. It is not clear whether their president agrees with this. Do you know what you would do? His role, his position and what he wants to see in the future?

First of all, it is important to understand that the state of war prevails in Ukraine. We also watch videos where people are forced to get off their bikes or pulled from the street to the front line where they die. Soliński rules in a military regime, not in a democracy. His democratic term expired years ago, and he still rules in a military state, by decree.

So I do not recognize his statements as reflecting the will of the Ukrainian people.

This is the starting point.

I have never really admired what he did, because instead of signing the peace agreement, which he had in front of him in April 2022, it would end so-called Istanbul process was abandoned from the peace agreement. Since then, it has lost a huge territory and probably a million Ukrainians. So I have to say, I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan. I do not believe that this is the defense of Ukrainian democracy. There is no democracy. And that is one of the things that make the idea that if Zelenski meets Putin, he will show his presence on the big global stage and then he will be able to maintain power, winning re-election or simply expanding and extending his military rule.

But it seems to be a carrot that Trump is waving to Zelenski. I will put you on the big stage, we will not overshadow you, we will not let Putin despise you. You will have respect, but you have to give up this, this and this. So, to be honest, you know, Zelenski, you know, he loses the war on the battlefield. There is no social support, he rules in a military state, according to all the reports, which I have not yet published. as a reward, and then in one way or another force Zaliński to, well, basically, well, end the rhetoric of the fight to return the borders from 1991. I think that's what's happening. The last thing we wanted, sir, is a continuation,

because you know that the threat from the United States is that if it doesn't work, we'll just go to further sanctions, as if Russia wasn't the most sanctioned country in the world. We've already seen that we can put A7 here on the screen. Both Lindsey Graham and the White House adviser Peter Navarro claim that India, calling for Russian oil purchases, must stop. Of course, even imposing 50% tariffs on India has not changed their behavior a bit. In fact, Narendra Modi published a post yesterday about telephone conversations with President Putin. I think I read this morning that the Chinese Foreign Minister is in New Delhi at today's meeting with the Minister of Foreign Affairs of India. In fact, they are showing the United States their middle finger in response to the TECWA.

It seems that many cards that are supposed to be played by both Europeans and the United States, do not really exist if they want to put even greater pressure on Russia. Lindsey Graham is the worst senator in the US Senate. I just want to officially state it. I will repeat it in every program you invite me to. He is a fool. Just a fool. Okay, I'll put it aside and move on to Sedna. Imposing 25% of the criminal record on India was the stupidest tactical move of American foreign policy ever. And that means a lot. In addition, I couldn't have made a list of the top 10, 20 best.

I'd like to see that list, Professor. Yes, we'll talk about it some day. But, oh my, what happened overnight, it united the world of bricks about it before. But, oh my, what has happened overnight, it has united the countries of the brick, like never before. I mean Brazil, Russia, India, China and RPA. I watched it, to put it bluntly, quite closely,

because I know the leaders of all these countries. In 24, 48 hours there was an avalanche of phones. Brazil with India, Brazil with Russia, Brazil with China, China with India, China with Russia. Donald Trump was a great unifier of bricks. Oh, oh, great. Good, I like bricks, so I have no problem with that. But this is the opposite of what Lindsay Graham or Peter Navarro, who I will put on the list of probably the most incompetent doctors that my previous department has ever admitted.

He is a doctor of economics E, who clearly did not.C.E. which he clearly didn't learn anything. He certainly didn't take part in my classes. But anyway, the attack on India, a country which the United States cared for in order to establish strategic and diplomatic relations, and it's a long story, but an attempt to convince India to fight against China and the so-called Quad agreement and many other issues, and Trump has been putting an end to this day by day. Because, in addition, even if this 25% of the targeted punishment is lifted, and I think that this is probably going to happen, the Hindus have learned a lesson that I have tried on to them for years. You can't trust the United States. And they... No, no, we have access to the main information. We have good relations.

No, you don't. There is no possibility of building relations based on trust with the United States. It's a country of improvisation and you won't achieve the relations you think about. Well, everyone in India understands it perfectly. Not only BRICS countries have been united, but also media in India, printed press and the Internet. Non-stop we discussed a few days of these days.

What are the United States doing? We have to find our friends and so on. It was a mistake that has no practical significance for inciting anyone to negotiate. None. But it completely undermined one of the trends of American foreign policy built over the years. I don't like this trend, so I like the bricks. So good. The bricks are now much stronger and more united than ever. Good. Donald Trump united them.

Peter Navarro united them. Lindsey Graham united them. Congratulations. I totally agree. Professor, thank you very much for your time and help in understanding all these issues. We invite you back to prepare a list of the ten most important ones.

Yes, we want. Thank you very much, sir. Okay, let's do it. It will be fun. Okay, thank you very much. Have a nice day. Nice to be with you. Hey, if you like this video, click the like button or leave a comment below. It really helps, show more people. It really helps, show more people.

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