Joe Rogan Experience #2520 - Tommy Lee

The Joe Rogan Experience.

Good to see you, man.Yeah, good to see you too.What's cracking?You got a diamond in your tooth?Is that what's going on?Yeah.

Nice.Yeah, nice.That's fun.My friend Cam just got a gold tooth, and I was giving him a hard time, but then I was like, damn, I think I want one.

Yeah, you got to get one, dude.I'm thinking to get a gold tooth.

I have a cap on one of my ...I had a root canal.I've got a cap on one of them.I think I'm going to swap it out for a gold tooth.Do it.Do it.

Fuck yeah.

Fuck yeah.I got one back here somewhere.It's just that little, like, I don't know, that little pirate thing starts to happen.I know, it's just a little outcast -y.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.So what's cracking, brother?How you doing?

I'm good, man. I'm, uh...I'm stoked to be here to see you.Stoked to have you here.Yeah, man.Shit, I wish I was staying longer now.But we'll make the best of...

How long are you staying?How long are you in town for?

I'm leaving after...

Right after this?After you, yeah.

Where are you headed?Back home, L .A.My son is getting married.Oh.Congratulations.

Thanks, thanks.Which is such a trip, dude.You know, like, he's 29.And he's getting married.And I'm just, I've been kind of tripping out on that.Like, dude, where the fuck did that time, A, go?

And like, I'm so fucking happy for him that he's been seeing this girl for seven years.I'm so proud that he did exactly the opposite of his dad.You know what I mean?Like, he knows, and they've been, basically they've been married, you know?mm -hmm so they're just making it official now and I'm just so happy for them like I'm I tell them all the time like so happy for you dude you like you know you use some patience and some love and like mix it all around us put some time in there and you know shits like your survival rate is gonna be way better than Way better and that makes me really happy and your happiness, right?

I think if you're a kid and your dad is Tommy Lee and you've had such a fucking crazy chaotic life He's probably like slow down.

Give me a fucking yard and a picket fence and whoa That's why like, you know, and you know in the drift of everything, yeah, I'm really surprised and I'm really happy He just like pump the brakes.That's awesome.Like make sure that what he's doing is The real shit.

Yeah, I mean, especially in L .A.with a rock star dad, it's like there's so many bad influences.There's so many ways you could go where you could just ruin your fucking life.It's so easy to ruin your life if you're in the wrong circles.Dude.

So easy.Right?Because everybody else is doing it, too.You're like, hey, I guess we're doing meth.I mean, I know people that are good people that have fallen down that rabbit hole and They're not bad people.They're not even stupid man They just made a bad decision for whatever reason and then next thing, you know They're all strung out and it's like LA is the hub of that.

Yeah, there's so much of that going on in LA Yeah, and if you are have any sort of That sort of shit magnet attached to you.Yeah, you know, the shady friends and the circles you just kind of all of a sudden, you're just fucking.

Oh, I mean, I don't live in therock and roll world, but I think that's probably the most attractive to, like, crazy people, like, that world.That is the world where if you're a fucking kook, like, you gravitate towards that world, you know?It's probably so hard to find, like, sane, balanced people that are, you know, that have their shit together.It's like, it's almost impossible.So, like, you're just, you know, Comparing yourself to the other chaotic people you're around and you're the fucking drummer in Motley Crue I mean, how are you supposed to be normal?

What the fuck are you talking about?What kind of life is that?That's such a bizarre life It's the craziest life of all time.You're fucking slamming the drums on stage in front of literally a sea of human beings singing along to your music Nobody can understand that.

I know man Yeah, they've and yeah, they've seen it all they've seen it all like I put him to work out on tour You know just so you know, we could hang out and spend time They're like, you know Get him a radio all of a sudden they're part one of my sons as part of the lighting crew Helping those guys.My other son is like all he's worth all she wants to know about is like dad.I I want to be in charge of all the after show passes.I'll go out while you're playing and I'm going to hit all the chicks.And like my son is out there just just stack of passes.Come on back afterwards.

Come on back.And then watching him like have just just running it.Right.It's just like.Brings a tear to my eye, man.

Oh, that's cool.That's very cool.When you look back, like how much of a dream does it feel?I mean, it's got to feel very bizarre that you, you know, every young guy who plays music wants to be in a gigantic band.They all want to be rock stars.And when it actually happens for you, and then you're looking back on it, like how fucking surreal does it all feel?

It's, dude, I pinch myself still daily, literally.And I'm just fucking, I don't know, man. I'm just lucky to be here.I'm lucky I get to do this.I always say to people, like, there's a couple of things that are involved with that whole thing.There's some luck.some talent, timing of things, and when those things kind of all line up, and it happens for you, and it just happens at fucking supersonic speeds, where like a lot of it's a fucking blur.

Like a ton of it's a blur, where you have to have somebody else like remind you, you're like, oh shit, that's right, I totally forgot we did that.You know, like about crazy times.Yeah, it's a trip, dude.I spend a lot of time like, Hanging on right Here we go.

Did you get a chance like when you're coming up to talk to any other rock stars?Anybody give you advice on how to handle things like what it's how weird it's gonna be.

No, I'm trying to think of any sort of a mentor kind of dude on like how to survive the shit Like, pull Keith Richards aside and say, hey man, how about a few tips?How'd you do this?

He's still here.Bro, I saw them at CODA, at the Circuit of the Americas a couple years back.They were fucking incredible, man.Incredible.Insane.They're like, what is, how old is Keith?

Dude.Are they like 80?He's gotta be.Mick is like 80?Bro, Mick is moving around and dancing and singing.Insane.

Insane.Dude, and let me tell you a fun quick little story here.Motley Crue gets to open up for the Rolling Stones.This was on Halloween, I forget what fucking year, at some stadium, and I think it was Toronto.We got to open for them, and we were so fucking pumped.We were like, dude, are you kidding me?

We get to fucking do this?Anyway, we play our show back in the dressing room after we're done.The Stones tour manager comes into the dressing room and goes, Tommy.I was like, yeah.He goes, Mick and Ronnie and Keith would like to see you.And I was like, Brad.

I fucking head over there and dude, this is 20 minutes before they're to go on.I go into their world and they bring a bartender around with them.So there's a guy set up just slinging fucking drinks.Mick isn't hammered, but fucking Keith and Ronnie, dude, they were fucking walking on their lips.I'm talking shitty, like, hey, fucking, right, just falling over with their guitars.20 minutes before they go on stage.

I'm like, how are these guys gonna fucking, there's no way they're playing.I'm sorry, there's no way, no fucking way.And all of a sudden, we took a couple of photos, and it was like, let's go to the stage, and I'm like, Oh, I gotta see this.I'm walking with them, right?They get up there, fucking lights go out.Boom, they fucking, I think they started with Start Me Up.

And it was like a switch flipped.All of a sudden, those guys were fucking money, like 100 % fucking rocking out.I was like, how did they just go?They've been doing it for so long that they just, they're masters of the controls.They're like, okay, I guess we can get this amount of fucked up and then we can go.Like, it's okay.

That was a crazy level.You could barely talk.And then they went up there and fucking ripped it.

Some guys just want to be fucked up to just feel the experience just to just ride it like a wild bull Yeah, that's what some guys like to do it.I mean and rock I don't have to tell you rock and roll music is the heart of that That's where it really goes down or a lot of guys like to get fucked up before they play Yeah, you know you want to see something fucking inspirational.I'm gonna show you something crazy always this is Have you seen Jamie have you seen Rick Springfield lately?

I I did just see him, and I I was like whoa I'm gonna send you a video, and it's gonna blow you away.

This is Literally bananas.This is Rick Springfield.He's fucking like 76 years old.Okay, 76 76 76 and he's singing Jessie's girl like he just wrote it and he's Yeah, play started for the put the headphones on bro headphones on and back this up from the beginning.Oh Well, I just sent it to you on Instagram.He's ripped Click on the other link then the one that I send you on Instagram because You can't first of all he looks fucking incredible like he's working out every day or something.

I mean, I don't even understand He looks like a 30 year old guy.Yeah, and he's singing the song like he just wrote it 76

76 That's crazy fuck amazing man amazing That's fucking inspirational.

Inspirational.76 years old and the passion and enthusiasm is what kills me.This is not a guy who's like just going out there and going through the motions.He's singing that song like he just wrote it.Yeah, totally.Fuck yeah, Rick Springfield.

Yeah, good job, bro.Fuck yeah.That's amazing.

I've been sending that to everybody.I'm like, fuck yeah.I saw that.I saw that clip and I was like, whoa.

A lot of people in their 76 are basically waiting to die.This dude's on stage with no shirt on fucking crushing life I love it.

That's gonna that's gonna be me still Rock and shit.

Well, I remember in the 80s there were no old rock stars Like no one was out there touring.That was an old rock star.You're right.You're right Then the stones released a new album.I think it was like 88 or 89 and and everybody's like, wow, they're gonna tour again?It was almost like, aren't they done with this?

Like, they're older now.And then it started being a thing where a bunch of older guys would go out on tour that hadn't been on tour in a while.And now it's not.And people are like, why are we retiring?Like, why?Why would I stop doing the most amazing thing that a human being ever gets to do?

Yeah, that you love to do.Yeah.No, let me stop doing that.It was like a thing with hip hop artists, too.They would get to an older age and people just didn't know what to do.them anymore.

It was like a young guy's game.But now a lot of those older guys are going on tour too and people realize, oh, these guys are fucking dope.Like I saw Run DMC went on, or excuse me, Public Enemy went on with, I think it was Bruce Springsteen.I think Bruce Springsteen had them go up in one of his concerts.I'm like, fuck yeah, look at these dudes.They're killing it.

They're still getting after it.

That's the best, man.You got to love that.And I think that, I don't know if you call it a resurgence or just that style of like, there are certain things that were really great that have stood the test of time.And I really think that the way shit is now, man, There is too fucking much.Like, there's too much music.Like, Spotify releases like 300 fucking thousand songs a day.

Really?Who the fuck is listening to all this music, dude?I'm in the business, and if I can't keep up, how can a fan of music keep up?So I just, I think that the excess of, it's just static, and it's really blown a hole through for, you know, original stuff, you know, really good stuff, because a lot of this stuff is all kind of sounding the same now.But I just, I think that it's been a cool progression that's sort of fueled that.I don't know if I'm making sense, I'm kind of getting...

No, you're making sense.You know what I'm trying to say?There's so much static now that Something has to be undeniable to break through.The authentic stuff still fucking holds water.big time.

Well, there's always like one song that all of a sudden resonates and just goes super viral because people listen to it and go, holy shit.There's always going to be something that's exceptional.But I do agree, it's impossible.There's a lot of great music that I don't know anything about and then someone turns me on to it and I'm like, how the fuck did I not know this guy?

Yeah, not turned you on to that you would be never fucking know.

Well, there's no real radio anymore No, right So, how do you find out when I was a kid when I was in high school?Like with a new Motley Crue kit song came out.It was on the fucking radio.Yeah, right, you knew All right, the new albums out.Let's go get the new album.Yeah, that was with every major band It was like then you got MTV MTV came along.

Oh the music videos out the albums out, but now it's like Anyone can just put stuff up, you know, which is great.Yeah, but it's also it's look It's it's all overall positive because you have more artists and more people that are doing what they want to do Yeah, more people that are making music, which is awesome.

But like I It's the same thing with movies imagine you had to watch every movie ever made you you'd have to be a million years old It's the same it's the same musically What's happening musically that's happening with everything entertainment?Yeah, yeah films television shows there's abundance of like it's just too much how did how do people I mean people got these you know you know TV packages where they've got subscriptions 4 ,000 different places and you still can't find anything to watch you're like what what the fuck is happening here everybody we gotta like peel it back a little bitMake it a little easier here.There's too many options.

It's almost like dating apps, right?If some chick is chewing her food with her mouth open, you're like, swipe.Who's next?People don't get a chance to know anybody, and I think that's all the same thing with movies and TV shows.Because if you're watching Netflix, if you get bored for three seconds, you're like, fuck this movie.What else is on?

Bip, bip, bip.You know?Okay, try this one.And you watch that for 10 minutes, not fuck this.I would like to see their numbers of like how long people actually watch a show or a movie on Netflix before they shut it off.I bet it's way different than in the past.

I bet in the old days, most people watched the movie to the end.Sure.

I bet now it's like 20%.Oh, dude.If that.Yeah.I'm just going to say a little bit more.If that.

Yeah.

It's short attention span life right now.It's very, very bad for you.Yeah.

Sometimes you got to just take something in.And that affects the people who create the stuff because you realize I'm dealing with a bunch of fucking six -year -olds here, and if my shit isn't banging within the first, whether it's a movie or a song or whatever it is, whatever your art is, if it's not fucking ripping your face off and grabbing your attention within three or four seconds, you're next.Next.Next.When that's just the world we're in, and that affects people who make the stuff, because They really got to put the best shit up front quick, or else you're going to lose everybody.100%.

And that sucks.Yeah, but they don't have to give in to that.Nobody's got time for suspense or, ah, fucked up.

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Well, think about some of the songs from the past that would never pass mustard today that are just amazing classics, like Whole Lotta Love.So Whole Lotta Love, you have a minute and a half fuck sounds with cymbals.before it comes back to this insane guitar solo.Yeah.Right?Yeah, you're right.

It's like the most bizarre song ever.

Yeah.

Kind of drum solo -y.Yeah.And in classically free bird when Leonard Skynard released free bird They're like no no this song takes way too long to get going.It's so long.It's like a seven -minute song You got it.This is never gonna fly Meanwhile, it's one of the greatest anthems in the history of the world and perhaps the greatest guitar solo in the history of the fucking human race Right, right, you know, yeah free bird when that dude gets going.

Yeah, you see it live and everybody's The whole fuckin' place is going off!I'm going bananas!one of the greatest guitar solos in the history of the fucking human race.And their record company was like, it's too long.

People don't have any attention span for this, guys.God, even back then, people were fucking hating.Well, it's always the people that are the money people.

Because all they give a fuck about is money.And you're in the creative side of it.And the money people are just pimping out the creative side of it.And they're just trying to get you to suck as many dicks as they can, because they want to buy a Rolls Royce.So like, come on.Suck that dick.

Let's go.And they don't give a fuck about you or your reputation because then they got fucking Nickelback over here and this guy over there and there's always a new band they can push and pimp.And so they just want to make the maximum amount of money possible.So they always have shitty advice because their advice is based on making money.Yeah.

And for that reason, when we were on Elektra Records, They were never allowed in the studio no one from the label.That's awesome We allowed them once and he came in and started making like making changes or Adjusting edits and stuff.We're like out out.Yeah, you'll get it when it's done here.Oh god.Yeah, so gross Here's some guy making those kind of calls who has no not a musician has no idea about what key the fucking songs in All he knows is it's too long.

Yeah.And we got to get to it quicker.

Well, it's these people that have ego for no real reason.They're just kind of, they're just involved with other great creative people.And that's what they sell.That's their business is to sell stuff that's awesome.And somehow or another, they think it makes them awesome.Yeah, it's very weird like you know Zach Bryan.

He's got a great song called Dan I think it's damn cold vampires or cold damn vampires.It's a great fucking song abouttongue twister It's a great fucking song.It's about the music industry, and it's about these vampires that are just Sucking blood out of these artists and chain was a great song the great line the song trying to make make an empire of the things that you create They're making an empire from other people's work That's what they're doing, but they somehow or another think that they're responsible and that they have an insight and they're I'm good at my job Tommy Lee and let me tell you something kid.I know music and that drum solo 14 seconds too long I'm gonna tell you why I'm gonna show you these statistics.Yeah, we've got a guy we got the best guy the best statistics guy He knows when people are 10 and when they get to this fucking part of the drum solo they tune out Tommy We got to stop them from tuning out Totally cuz I want to get a Kona seg.

I want to get one of them fucking two million dollar cars These cunts they're just there they exist in every Every walk of life where one person is like, you know the creative type.It's not business oriented and you need a business person Yes, so the business people come in because they're good.Someone's got to sell it.You're not gonna fucking sell it Yeah, what are you gonna do?You're gonna make your own record company your own executives and to do your own promotion get the fuck out of here Yeah, you can't yeah, so they come along and they get involved and they They fuck it all up.Yeah.

And how many guys have listened to them and ruined their careers because they listen to them.Oh man.

You know the Billy Squire story.So Billy remind me because I think Billy Squire was the shit when I was in high school.

He had that song Lonely is the Night.

Oh my God.I love Billy Squire.Dude the stroke.He was fantastic.

And he did one music video.where it was like very effeminate.It was like really weird.Oh, was it when it was he's in his pajamas or something?It was really weird.And everybody was like, nope.

Yeah, what is he doing?Yeah, it was really weird.And to this day, I don't know if that was his idea or somebody else's idea.They just took a wild chance.I don't know.I pray to God it was his idea.

Because at least, like, he's creative, made a creative decision, didn't work out, whatever.

Yeah, fine.But if someone tanked his career because they wanted him to act feminine in a song, it was like, Very the reaction was crazy because this guy was like a sex symbol Yeah, he was like, you know a shirt down to his you know, open up down to his pants.Yeah He was a bad motherfucker on say his ass off.Yeah, he's a star One music video.I thanked him.

I think it was my condo lover.I I think that was the song where see if you can find what the video was this is it About it about this whole thing yeah, so like this this is it yeah, so it's it was very weird like what song is it Can you hear?

So it was somebody else's ideas that but that guy with the face that guy with the faces Yeah, he's crawling around on his knees and his hands at his knees yeah, it was weird it was very weird What song was this?You know like if he was like like look at this look at him skipping around and say it was a very odd That guy that seems like the type of guy that would give you the bad advice something me tonight It's the name of the song Familiar with that title.Yeah, I don't know but I know And everybody's like nope, yeah, that's a rap and that guy should have had like fucking 50 giant albums That guy was amazing.Yeahsuch an incredible singer man so around rock me tonight 1984 oh yeah we'll cut that part up but you can see him dancing around like look at this yeah don't do that buddy what is this he's Don't do that.Yeah, we need you on the ground swarming around.

Hopefully.Hopefully it was his idea.My God, if this was somebody else's idea, like, I want you to be looser.I want you to be looser.I want you to be more free.I want you to be like, I want to feel it.

I want to feel your vulnerable side.I want you on your hands and knees.I want you crawling.That's what I want you to do.I want you like this.Like, you barely can crawl.

Like, you're having a hard time crawling.That's what girls like.Girls like a guy who struggles to crawl.Yes, dude.

Oh my God.

Like, what the fuck did you do to him?

Oh my God.

What did you do to him?

I know.

I hope it was his idea.

Despite its major success, the song is sometimes associated with the end of his career as a singles musician due to the music video, which is described as one of the worst ever in a 2011 book.I want my MTV, the uncensored story of the music video revolution show Squire dancing around in a bed with pastel colored satin sheets and wearing a pink tank top.Squire's concert ticket sales immediately declined, and he later fired his managers.He has accused Ortega of deceiving him and altering his original concept, which Ortega denies, while Squire remains steadfast that the video was solely responsible for the initial decline of his popularity.Other commentators are less certain." Well, I'm pretty certain.

I remember it.I remember it.I remember kids in high school going, what the fuck, bro?

What the fuck is Billy Squire doing, bro?

That shit's gay, bro.Because Billy Squire was the man.I mean, he could have been another John Mellencamp.He could have gone on forever.For sure.Like, what the fuck, dude?

84.One song?One music video?

Insane.That is really crazy if you think about it.Yeah, it's nuts.

It's nuts.Well, that's the craziest thing about we think about like the success of motley crew and bands like from your era the fact that you guys Endured for so long like still to this day, bro If I'm working out in the gym and kickstart my heart comes on I swear to God I get stronger Man that's that that songs a drug.Yeah that one man. I can't tell you how fun how how Rewarding that is to like sit back and like I don't know the Super Bowl's on and the fucking kickoff We got to cut it out, but I want to hear it throw kickstart my heart on we'll cut it We have to cut it out for you, too, but it will get docked with Fucking money people come involved Meanwhile, we're just promoting music goddammit with Tommy Lee you motherfuckers.Yeah, right This is fucking here this fucking song.I was this live.Don't you a live one?

Give me the actual one That was one of the most American songs that's ever been made.Ever.

Ever!

That song is fuel, you know?That song is fucking fuel.If you were running in a race and you're thinking about quitting and that song comes on your headphones, you're like, let's fucking go!

Let's fucking go!

You know?Songs like that, they really do give you energy.They really are like a drug.

Yeah, they're definitely, they're injected.Yeah, like changes your state, you know?I love that one.Isn't that fucking wild, the power that music has?has like the right kind of song you know everybody's different but there's nothing better than like a fucking like I get yeah goosebumps bro if something comes along that just any it gets inside you yeah it's fucking infectious and all of a sudden you're like dude it's taking over my whole body I'm fucking tingling yeah hair standing up and And you're like, what is that?Yeah, what the fuck is that?

Like, I want to fucking bottle that up and try to recreate whatever that is.

Yeah, it's it's just an encapsulation of emotion with sound frequencies that just changes your physical state.It does something to you that's like, it's one of the most amazing creations that human beings have ever done.One of the one of the most amazing accomplishments that human beings have ever done is it just make incredible music.Because it's one of the things that it affects us in a way that like nothing else.And you can hear them over and over and over and over again.Like a great joke is awesome the first time, but after you hear it the second time, it loses a little of its power.

The third time it gets a little boring.A great song I could listen to that how sometimes that I'm working out.I just put something on repeat I'm like, oh, I just want to hear this song one song over and over and over again We're that fucker.I don't care.It's so good.I don't give a fuck.

I just want to go and every time it comes back You know, it's like It's it changes the frequency of your actual soul.

Yes, your body gets moved by it You feel different you I want to ask you a question because you're into all this fucking crazy shit I saw somewhere recently and this just goes along with that feeling euphoric feeling you get when the right notes are frequencies andyou.I saw that through sound, certain frequencies, like some dude in China, some doctor in China, or is it Japan, is this close to healing fucking cancer through sound.through frequency.Really?Have you seen any of this?

I haven't seen it, but I wouldn't be surprised.I wouldn't either because, you know, it just fascinates me because there is those frequencies out there that you know about them, 432, 432 hertz, you've heard about that stuff.Explain to people.There's some weird, what do you call it, conspiracy theories about...Originally, our music like Bach, Beethoven back in those days was tuned to 432 Hertz.And this is the conspiracy bullshit part about it.

At some point, and people say Hitler changed the the tuning the pitch of music and now everything was raised to 440 instead of you know 432 instead of 432 now it's at 440 it's it's up and it's in the frequency is more aggressive and it was said that it was done to give the soldiers more fucking you know angst and crank this music well they were also given a meth Excuse me.

They were also given the map between meth and kick -start my heart Would have been a real problem dude no no kick -start my heart in German yeah, oh my

yeah, that would have been a real problem Yeah, I'm just curious here because I know that you're into that kind of stuff if the any sound Therapy or healing through through frequencies if you've heard any of that.

Well, I know people do sound baths Yes, where you know, they'll do these meditation experiments where they lie on their back and they have someone like that It's making sounds and you know There's something to it, but just think about like what we're saying with kickstart my heart like when you hear a great song It changes the way you feel it changes your feeling it gives you more energy.It really does so Obviously sound has a profound effect on the human body, and it's not just like you There's a lot of aspects to a great song right.It's the sound it's also the messaging that's in the lyrics It's like there's a lot of there's a lot going on the voice of the singer You know the the visuals of everybody fucking rocking out on stage you sure That also contributes to it, but the actual sound itself is affecting your body in a very profound way And I wouldn't be surprised that there's ways that sound could provide like therapeutic Benefits to like people that are injured that are healing sickness I'm sure I mean if you were lying in a hospital bed, and you felt like shit because you just had surgery But you listen to some dope music wouldn't that be better than just listening to people moan in the next room Yeah, you're inputting something nice.It should be a part of your recovery.Yeah, for sure.Getting positive vibes in.

Things that give you good feeling and good energy.

I do that all the time, man. I'll sit at home.When you're in the mood to not really listen to music, but hear music where it's just playing in the background and I'll I'll just put there's these YouTube videos of these beautiful Japanese gardens in Kyoto or whatever and there's like high -def shots ofjust beautiful, you know bonsai trees koi ponds big Milwaukee bonsai like And it's just so chill and with that music and I just I just put it on it's kind of on a lot Actually, and I find myself that's where I go to like just like I don't know Yeah, it puts you in a different state.It puts me in a different space, you know?Yeah.I dig it, man.

You got really into Banzai.Yeah, dude.How did that start?All the times that we've gone to Japan, every time I went there, I always went to the Japanese gardens or the temples.And I'd walk around and just be like, my jaw on the floor.Like, I've never seen anything this fucking peaceful and beautiful.

just like I don't know it just came over this feeling every time I went I came over me and I started studying.This is like eight years ago.I was like, I need this in my life somehow.I don't know what this is, but let me go down, you know, down the tube here and figure out what that is and how I can get some of this into my life.And I found some fucking videos on doing bonsai work on trees.And I started and I haven't stopped.

And it's been, Hands down the coolest fucking thing I've ever gotten into man like I'll be out there for hours every day like I'll start my day just being with nature and being with the trees that I'm working on and I got like a workshop dude.It's like a there's like in progress Works on the bench.There's other ones.I'm bending.There's ones that I'm you know treating for pests you know there's aa whole world and wiring everything training it to where you want to go Pruning it's just it it lets me escape everything for a couple of hours I just I just I don't know man. I just check out how many years you've been doing this now I've been probably eight years now.

I've been doing it eight years and so Is a bonsai tree a regular tree that would grow big if you didn't fuck with it.Yes.Yes Okay, and then you can get it to this incredible beautiful artistic shape Years small.

Yes.It's what you're basically you keep kind of dwarfing it and the and everybody gets this confused and they just think Bonsai is like that's the tree bonsai means tree and pot That's what that means, actually.It doesn't mean the actual bonsai tree.It means tree and pot.

How long has the study of bonsai, how long has the practice been around?

Dude, fuck.I have no idea.And you find that other parts of the world, now that you get into it, I mean, there's in Taiwan and China, there are some fucking insane bonsai.And I think it actually originated in China.And the Japanese took it and altered it in ways and did it their, sort of their version, but I think it originated in China, if I'm not mistaken.Fuck dude Wow fucking wiki Lee over here So don't you have a tree that's 300 years old.

Yes, I do over 300 I have I have two of them that are over 300 years old.

So someone was working on them over 300 years ago.

Well Either that or was collected maybe a hundred years agoago, and then over that time it's just gone.Constantly been you know cut back and cut back Like what you'll do, but it's a part of a tree.

That's 300 years ago.

Yeah, it's it's still it's the same tree right, but it's just it's never been It's it's always getting its roots cut is that it is that your tree the 300 year old tree no no no that's just a that's just a small juniper that I have The 300 year old one is a is a redwood and fucking It's like this and it's smashed into a pot about this big that seems rude Redwood it seems rude if you go to like Northern, California and you go to the redwood forest.

Yeah, they're fucking spectacular Yeah.Those things are wild.Insane.That redwood forest is so incredible.There's the one that you drive through.Yeah.

Yeah.Yes.They cut a hole in it in like the 1920s or whatever.

It's really fucked.

I can't believe they did that.But the tree's still alive.And you drive through the tree.It's so crazy.

Yeah, that one I showed not too long ago in an exhibition.Oh, so you go to bonsai shows.Yeah, I just started entering some of my trees that I've been working on.I've done two so far.Just now, like just this year, entered a couple trees.That's awesome.

The rest of these other seven years or eight years of practicing is just Learning you know what a cool hobby.Yeah, it's it's fucking rad dude.It really it's also like the complete opposite of being a rock star Totally like what great balancing tool You know I know man.It's interesting because a lot of a lot of you know my my peers musical buddies like They're they're all of them are justinterested.They're like, dude, what's up with the bonsai?

They're curious, they wanna know.Maybe they've seen me change a little bit over the years, or they've seen how much joy it fucking brings me. I think I want some of that.

I'm not sure.Well, there's something about a zen garden that you associate with bonsai.Peacefulness and clarity.Yes, you know just peace of mind Yes, clean mind if your mind is pure you're like you're really in the moment Rather than just being a fucking mess ordering uber eats You know, I mean, yeah, it's like there's something that's very spiritually attractive to people about those practices Yes, and and and that's it too.

It really has a lot to do with sort of the the The culture of all of it like when you start going down that hole about design and all that stuff you start to You start to realize that everything that at least the Japanese Do is with such fucking purpose like you'll notice in you know, and I didn't notice this stuff until later I was like, oh I get it now.There's serious rules about how they Build a zen garden.You'll never find a straight path Ever I don't care how far you look you'll never find a straight path going through a zen garden they specifically and strategically Curve the path to slow you down when you get to when you get when soon as you walk into a garden the number one Objective is to get you to slow the fuck down and there's no straight path and everything that You don't, nothing becomes revealed to you until you come around that corner.So you're always, even if you're going across a lake or a pond, there's never a straight, very rarely, a straight bridge.It's either arced or the bridge zigzags across.There's never a straight line and what that's meant to do is get you to stop at each corner And look out and just take take it in and fucking be present.

Mmm, and that's to me.It's like That's the deeper meaning of all this for me.It's really got me to slow the fuck down because everything is just kind of Right all the time.So you know that it's just I don't know how to explain it.It's hard to explain that state, but that's what I get from it.And every day, it's the best way to start your day, man.

It can only get fucking amazing after that, because you kind of set yourself up for Having a fucking super rad day like I do know I mean like yeah, yeah, I'm good.Let's go right well It makes sense.

I mean there's something about those Zen gardens.

It's so attractive to people yeah, it's obvious There's something going on with that design with that flow of nature and the way.

It's artistically pieced together It's very exciting to people and you see it, man I don't know if you've noticed something you had to notice you see it in a lot of them like newer architecture a lot of fucking designs and homes are being built with that sort of very minimal Japanese flavor that is just meant to have your home be a peaceful place and not like a fucking museum.

It's more peaceful.

like in the actual design itself versus like some house with big giant ass fucking windows overlooking the big city and fucking rocks everywhere and like Yeah, yeah, and I've had that I've done that before with the house on the top of the hill with the views and I mean the view is just kind of view doesn't really do anything it's very different than having a You know a beautiful winding sanctuary to cruise through.

You know, I think nature is very therapeutic and if you can put nature in an artistic form like a Zen garden It's very therapeutic.Oh, that's a way better view.The view of nature is a way always a way but look you whenever I go to New York City and I'm staying in a hotel and I'm in the middle and you'll see all the buildings like wow This is crazy in the center of it.

This is fucking dope But I don't want to live there.

Yeah, right, right.I like to visit.I don't think it's a good place to live For me at least I don't think it's good for my headspace to live there.I like to see trees Yeah, I like to see nature.I like to see green.I like to see things that are alive that makes me feel better Yeah, you know it's funny dude.

I tell people I think I think I was a fucking tree like in a past life because I'm I'm like maybe you were a tree too.I'm like you like I don't know if you're like this gnarly about it, but Every time I go into a city that first thing I look look at is the trees like Whether it's a big city wherever I'll find the tree because that's the first thing I'm looking for.I don't look at the buildings I don't look you know up and we're down.I'm always like looking for the tree and Yeah, it's just, I don't know, man.

Well, human beings are very connected to plants or they're very connected to nature, period.It's one of the most brilliant things that the designers of New York City did is make Central Park.Ah.Have that giant park.It's an enormous park in the center of the city I was staying at a hotel last year and it was like on the edge of the park and like from the window you Look out you see the whole park like straight like this is fucking incredible that they did that because it's so big and it's it's just trees It's just trees and paths and little lakes and everything and go wander around like hey get the fuck out of these Buildings for a while and it's like for a person living in New York City having that right there in the center is gigantic.I don't know what percentage of people take advantage of it, but they should all.

It would make them all better.They'd all feel better.

It's a little center retreat, man.

Wow, an amazing one.It's fucking huge.Like, how many acres is Central Park?Let's find that out.Let's guess.I'm gonna guess.

A thousand acres, if I had to guess?Maybe 2 ,000 acres?How big is it?843 acres.So it's this amazing, huge park in the center of the biggest city in the world.And you see all these giant, crazy fucking buildings and then none of them in the center.

It's beautiful.

Fucking props to those people or whoever that didn't sell that space.

Because how many fucking vampires are trying to take over that and put a big shitty ass building in the middle of it?

We don't need 800 acres, 500 acres.

That's plenty.Plenty, plenty, plenty.We'll just make those 500 acres even better and no one's going to complain.Put a whole bunch of money into it.Yeah, hats off to whoever.

Whatever we're going to do.

Whoever like held that down.

They've lost a few parks.That's one of our shows that we do with Ari Shaffir, Shane Gillis and Mark Norman is Protect Our Parks.Oh, but we're not really protecting parks.We're just getting drunk and talking shit called Protect Our Parks because Ari on one of the early episodes was ranting and raving aboutgonna fucking take down this park and turn it into apartment buildings and they wound up doing it they killed the park They just wanna suck out all the trees and just make money, these dirty bitches.

Oh man, pretty soon everybody's gonna have no place to go, man.

Yeah, well, I think Central Park is safe and that's the greatest park in the world.It really is.The greatest park in any city in the world.

It's so crazy you mention that because on the way here I was flicking through Instagram and I saw, sorry that this happened, some dude got killed.that one of the horses took you know the horse and buggy thing just fucking launched and you see the dude the horse flips the cart and the dude gets flung out and then he dies he died on the way to the hospital Why did the horse freak out?

Do we know what happened?

It didn't show it.It just showed like somebody else has had footage of it.Like just the horse freaking out and then peeling out and you'd see the thing flip over and you're like, oh man, dude.

You know, I love horses and I'm not a fan of horses walking around the city.I think it's fucked.I get that people think it's romantic to ride on the back of a buggy with a horse.Yeah, yeah, yeah.It's not right.No.

supposed to be in the fucking fields and the mountains, the horse supposed to be running around and eating grass.Clicking around on the asphalt.Fuck all that.Fuck all that.I don't like it.It's just a gross touristy thing.

I mean, it's cool to see them every now and then.I know cops like to use them when they're breaking up riots and shit, which is kind of crazy.But the reality is a horse is not supposed to be there, just like a cow's not supposed to be there.If you had cows walking down the street, you'd be like, why the fuck is this cow here?

This was likely an accident because driver.Yeah, the driver, I guess they call him wasn't.Oh, dude.the right spot.Like, left his seat.What?

He left his seat?They're never supposed to leave their seat.It says to take maybe a photo of the passengers in the carriage, and when the family was climbing back in, the horse got spooked.

Oh, no.

It happened very fast.

Yeah, the driver's not in it.The driver's not in it, dude.It just peels out.Oh, fuck, man.And you see it just go and just make kind of a hard right, and the buggy just...Fuck flips over and I don't fuck with horses man.

Yeah, dude.I don't ride them.

I have I've ridden a horse before I don't like it dude.I've done it.I got my ass thrown off one.Yeah, and I was like, I'm good.I'm cool.

It's just not good.It's just I mean look.If you're a cowboy and you're riding horses and everything that's kind of a different thing sure you know if you're doing it every day That's different thing, but for me.It's like.I don't need to ride them.I get it for entertainment purposes It's like I went to Thailand and we rode elephants we had to ride elephants and the elephants don't mind because you you Establish a relationship with them first you feed them sugarcane, and you know you pet them and you hang out with them They decide whether or not you're cool, and if you give them like peaceful gentle friendly energy They're like sure come on up lift your leg up and you step on top of them And you climb on their back, and they gently take you through the jungle, but I'm like I didn't need to do that I could have just hung out with them that have been plenty cool.

I'm happy just feeding them.

I don't need to ride them Yeah, yeah, yeah like King chimp You know, it's very weird.

It's weird.

But, you know, people like it and they're beautiful animals.

Oh my God, they're beautiful.

I don't need to ride animals.I get it.People like to do it.I don't have a problem with people doing it, but it's not me.

Yeah.I'd rather look at them.I'm with you.

Yeah.But horses and people have like a crazy relationship.You know, peoplethat have horses like they're bonded to that animal like no other animal.

Oh, yeah I know a few that are just like horse whisperer kind of shit where you're like whoa This is this is some next -level love.

Yeah, they do a lot of there's there's a therapy with that, too They do yes wine therapy for a lot of people I did that one time at a rehab they took us to have like a couple of days with just with horses and it was cool man I get it yeah well again it's like just like the trees in the forest it's like something peaceful about horses yeah you know yeah mostly most of the time they're especially if they're broken they're pretty chill they just want to hang out yeah yeah you come up and pet them they like it and Yeah puts you in check their big -ass teeth freak me out when you're like you don't like get your fingers in there dude People have been bitten by him to hoppers if your people someone's a dick you get a horse annoyed and they bite you.

Yeah, bro Oh, dude.

Yeah, that's got a fucking can you imagine all that jaw power dude this size of their fucking head?Yeah clamping down on your hand.Fuck you.

I want a carrot, bitch.

Give me the fucking carrot.That's so rad, you can smoke in here.Yes, you can.Yeah, I smoke cigars.Of course.I'll fire up with you.

All right.How long you been smoking?God, forever.You ever try to quit?

I have, and I quit for, this was a few years ago.I quit for like, fuck, I almost made it a year.And then I was like, God, I feel like after a few months, you're out of the woods.Yeah.I don't know.It just didn't last.

It just didn't fucking last, man.What brought you back?You know what?Probably because I was drinking at the time.They kind of go hand in hand.If you're having a cocktail or a beer or whatever, you're having a smoke, chances are.

And I don't know, man.You're sitting there and you're having a drink and you're like, Where's the cigarette?It's just, I don't know.It's like rock and roll.They just go together for some reason.So I failed.

Well, why did you quit originally?What was the thought behind it?I think I was just trying to quit fucking everything.You know, you're just like, ah, that's it.Fuck everything.I'm just going to take a break and fucking hit the reset button on everything.

I think I was going through that phase.Because I hadn't ever tried that.Tried everything else but nothing.And yeah, I don't know, man.

It's the last vice of a lot of people in recovery.

Yeah, and then you got guys like Keith Richards, who's just ripping cigarettes still, and I'm like, he's fine.And I've gotten my lungs and done the whole Prenuvo body scan to see all your shit, and they're like, you're good.Are you sure?Wait, let me see the like, you know, the paperwork.Is this a different Lee's or a different guy?Like, because that's fucking impossible.

They're like, you're good.I was like, Alright, so that there's really no reason to quit.

Well, there's a there's aa very small percentage of people.Well, first of all, it's a very small percentage of people that get lung cancer, the general population.And then when you add in cigarette smokers, it's a small percentage of cigarette smokers that get lung cancer.But More cigarette smokers get lung cancer than regular people And so that's why when you look at the percentage of people that get lung cancer that smoke cigarettes That's why it looks so high So if you like, let's let's find the numbers put it into perplexity, please Let's what percentage of cigarette smokers get lung cancer, and I think it's less than 5 % I think it's a very small number And then you got to think, people that are smoking cigarettes, how many of them are smoking two, three packs a day?

Oh, yeah, that's crazy.

And how many of them are smoking just a few cigarettes a day?I bet a lot.I bet a lot of people that are a little hesitant, they only smoke like a half a pack or a little bit less.Yeah.So what does it say, Jamie?It's still calculating.

Oh, sorry.

Isn't there something about like nicotine, like when COVID happened, they were like, if you're a smoker, you're good.And I never got fucking COVID.

Yes.And I was like, yeah, nicotine.Well, there's something about smoking cigarettes.

It's supposed to be like really good to prevent COVID.It's really confusing.So crazy.

Yeah.10 to 20 % of people who smoke at some point in their lives will develop lung cancer.with many studies landing about 15%.I thought it was a lot less than that.Large study estimates that 15 out of 100 current smokers will get lung cancer.But that's estimated from a study.

Another analysis found roughly one in seven current smokers develop blood cancer.People who never smoke have a one to 2 % chance or a lifetime chance of developing lung cancer.lung cancer.Yeah, people who never smoke.Overall, only a minority of smokers get lung cancer.But smoking still causes about 80 % to 9 % of the lung cancer deaths.

Oh, this is something we talked about yesterday, Jamie, that we forgot to look up.There's some sort of a study that's connecting people that live in Europe that have high polyphenol diets.So they have like, they don't smoke.use a lot of olive oil.

Oh, yeah.

And olive oil seems to protect.It's a very controversial statement because people think, oh, my God, you're promoting cigarettes.I don't think they're promoting cigarettes.I just think they're just looking at data that these people that have high olive oil content in their diets seem to not have any problems with cigarettes or not have nearly as many problems.Oh, wow.Yeah.

Which makes sense because olive oil is so good for you.You got to think it's got to balance out a lot of the free radicals and bullshit that you're getting from life.

Yeah, it makes sense that it would apply to smoking as well.You're totally yeah So smoke him if you got him get some extra virgin olive oil.

Let's fucking go Dip them like sure I've never tried sherm.Yeah a long time ago.

Did you yeah?

Yeah, I'm fucking high school days man people in Europe who eat high polyphenol diets are but still face the full, very high health risks of smoking.Diet cannot cancel out cigarette damage.It can only modestly improve overall risk markers.But there was an article that I had read that they were connecting it.They were talking about Europeans, Eaheritus, especially Mediterranean -rich plant diets consume substantial polyphenols from fruits, vegetables, and whole grains, tea, olive oil, and wine.Polyphenol intake is linked to better cardiovascular risk profiles and lower long -term heart disease risk and overall mortality.

in observational studies.Because that's the other thing about cigarettes.It's not just cancer, it's also heart disease.And so polyphenols have antioxidants and anti -inflammatory effects, but current evidence does not show they can neutralize the cardiovascular cancer or lung damage risk from smoking.What it means for smokers.Haters.

You have to have some vices.Most of the people I know that in Alcoholics Anonymous, they fucking drink coffee every day and they smoke cigarettes.Yeah.Big percentage of them.Ripping cigarettes.Yeah.

Because it gets you a little high.Yeah.But it's like a very manageable high.Yeah.Like the cigarette high is like, oh, I'm all right.Yeah.

It's just like a little lightheaded.

Yeah.But also like good for cognitive function, you know?Oh, yeah.Like, you know Pink Floyd, when they wrote the wall, they were high as fuck on cigarettes.Those guys smoked cigarettes all day long.

What?Yeah.

Yeah, those dudes smoked a ton of cigarettes.Get out of here.Yeah.

Oh, is that coffee, dude?Yeah, get in there, dawg.

Fuck yeah.Thank you, bro.

My pleasure.

Yeah.Yeah.Tony Hinchcliffe told me that, and he's a giant cigarette fan.Stephen King said that too.When he stopped smoking cigarettes, it affected his writing.Oh, whoa.

Yeah, he said his synapses just didn't fire as fast anymore.Whoa.It's like that was one of the things that I really noticed when I quit smoking.

That's wild.Yeah.Huh.Doesn't that make sense though?It does.I remember quitting for a short time there.

I remember everything tasting better.Oh shit, yeah, like everything you just take tasted better.Yeah, you know, of course It's pounding the cigarette immediately following every single meal or drink It's got a numbed the inside of your mouth in some way or dull your senses.It's something you're caking it with smoke.

YeahYeah.Clog up the old taste receptors.Yeah, dude.But a lot of creative people swear by cigarettes, man. I think there's some benefit to it.Yeah, hopefully.

No, I think there is. I think there's some cognitive benefit.There's just way too many like super creative people and a lot of intelligent people, a lot of professors use tobacco.

David Gilmour says he never smoked cigarettes.

David Gilmour.

But didn't Roger Waters this thing goes on to say that some of the band did smoke cigarettes But it's more about their marijuana and hashish smoking So Tony Hinchcliffe spread misinformation and here I am repeating it He could have been told though.Yeah, I'm sure he was told well Roger Yeah, we all did hang out with Roger that one night.

That was pretty dope We got to see Roger Waters live, and he came on the podcast, we hung out, and then we went to see his concert.It was insane.It was insane.I bet it was fucking rad.

Another legend was still, like, full power on stage.It's incredible.That's the best.

The show was amazing, and it's like, he has these enormous screens behind him, so the show is like, it's the music, but it's also these incredible visuals that you're watching while the music is playing, you know?And his is so politically loaded, so it's, you know, you see all this crazy Shit like while he's singing these songs like when they're playing the wall.

It's like oh yeah, I've never seen one of those tours I think maybe it was I don't know what but the wall is slowly building over the whole yeah It's fucking crazy and when we went to see him Ari was high as fuck on acid and he's crying in the middle It was fucking phenomenal.

Oh my god, dude, I don't know if I could handle that Yeah, I don't know either Jesus just get the fuck out of here with the acid.We're just gonna go see the concert aboutdoing that.

Yeah, dude.Fuck.Around all those people, I'd probably, I don't know if that'd be a good one.Probably not a good one, but Ari's an experienced passenger.

You know what I mean?He can ride some waves.Good boy.He can ride some waves without throwing up.Do you ever look back and just say, God, it's a wonder I'm still alive?

Dude, I told you earlier, I pinch myself on a daily basis.I really do.I shouldn't technically be here.Maybe you shouldn't, I don't know, who knows.We all got our thing, but I'm really lucky to be here.And I think it's because I want to be here.

You know what I mean?I want to be here, I want to fucking see.I'm kind of pissed because I feel like we're not even close to where we should be.I mean the year 2000.I'm where's my fucking spaceship a little Right, you know like where is that there was supposed to be full Jetsons, bro They're extremely late or it's never gonna happen.

I think there's a real problem with people flying or they lied The people put the problem people flying around is you got to catch them, right?Whereas if they're on the street just close off the street, and then you catch them, right?Yeah, if people are flying around way too much freedom Yeah, they just go off like no no no no you can't have that for everybody you gotta have people corral in nice Like very clean lines We can block these lines off very obvious paths use lights to start over them in Helicopters put a spotlight down on them so you follow them aroundThat's what people like they don't like this idea of the Jetson Like that's not fuck.

I want that dude.I want my own little well.They do have flying cars now I saw some yeah, there's a couple there's like a one company called jet one and It's like this little looks like a little it's like a one -man drone I'm like yeah me and my manager were always like should we go fucking get a couple of these you don't want to die that way Yeah, let those things get worked out for a few years.Yeah, it's probably needs a little bit more time for it to be soup.

But yeah, man, because I mean, think about like how glitchy early cell phones were, you know what I mean?Right.Let that shit get ironed out.Yeah.Let the eggheads work on that for a little bit.Polish it up.

Nice.Fix all the bugs.Yeah.It's like, I don't know what happens when those things crash.Do you get a warning when they're about to die?Do they run out of batteries?

Does it run out of gas?Is it allowed to run out of gas?Can you just be an asshole and just fly until you run out of gas and die?Or, you know, I think I could make it home.Like, how many guys have done that in their cars?I think I could make it home.

When I was in high school, my friend picked me up in his buddy's 1970 Chevelle.Fucking amazing Chevelle, so dope.And I remember he ran out of gas, and we coasted perfectly right to the gas station.No way, yeah.It was like, we shut the car, and we got out.I was like, that was amazing.

Because, you know, we're 16.It ran out of gas at the pump.I was like, this is perfect.No pushing, no nothing, just poof.But if you're in one of them little drones, and that shit goes...Goes on E. Yeah.

Yeah.

It's fucking.Parts.Yeah.Yeah.Not good.Not good.

Did you see that documentary that they did about that kid that stole a plane?stole a play was like working at an airport, and he stole a plane and hijacked it And then flew it and crashed it and died yes, but he's like having conversations with yeah, he's talking I'm going like I don't know what I'm doing man, but you know this one's for the I don't know yeah, it's just and they were just like I could run it dude and Well, they were trying to get him to land it, but the reality was, no way he was going to figure out how to land that thing.He's a dead man.The moment he got off the ground, he's a dead man.Yeah.And he just stole a plane.

And there's a whole documentary about it.It's apparently very interesting.

Wow, I have not seen the documentary, but I've seen clips of them trying to talk him Talk him down, and he just seemed like he wasn't that wasn't an option He just seemed like he was ready to wrap it up.He was taking this this was this yeah that that one flight Yeah, ready to wrap it up.

Yeah insurance covers this But yeah, I think flying cars will probably be a thing one day.For 70 minutes, the world watched in disbelief as a stolen Horizon airplane soared over Puget Sound before crashing on a remote island.Now a new Hulu documentary reveals the man behind the controls and the quiet struggle that led him there.

Oh, I gotta watch this.What's it called?Sky King.It's what?Sky King, it's called.Sky King.

Poor dude.Oh, damn.Well, at least they gave him a rad title.

Yeah, well, the unfortunate thing is that might encourage other people to do it as well.People are very stupid.

Dude, people are stupid.I just released a song called Stupid World a couple weeks ago.And that's exactly what that's about.It's literally, we have gotten to a place where everything to me, like we are at just epic, stupid proportions where you justlike not a day goes by where I'm like that's fucking ridiculous That's stupid like how stupid like how stupid can we get?

Anyway, I wrote this track.

It's called stupid world.I'll just live in LA which is one of the stupidest fucking places on earth, dude I know It's fucking insane.I'm like, and I'm doing the same thing too.Like, why do I live here?I mean, I love, I love it there.But in the same amazing, there's always in the back of my head is why?

Look, it's the one of the most beautiful places on earth.The weather's perfect.Yes.Most of the people are very friendly.Most of the people are cool.You know, it's like, it's only a percentage of the people that are That's suck.

It's a large percentage, but it's only a percentage the most the majority of people are cool The problem is it's like slowly becoming a new Detroit It's like slowly the the film business is like dried up.Yeah, like completely dried up television completely dried up Late -night TV.It's it's dried up man, and that was fueling a giant of what made LA special.I know.And it's just dried up, man.Nobody has to be there anymore, and they make it intolerable.

They make you seem like you have to be there, so they just punish you with taxes, and they punish you with regulations.They punish you.They make everything very difficult to conduct business, very difficult to be safe, very difficult to just feel fucking normal.And they get surprised when people leave.Like, what do you want?What do you think you're doing to that place?

You guys can see the statistics.Stop fucking gaslighting the world.You guys fucked this place sideways and you want to keep doing it.

And the weirdest thing is, you know, like, you know, you hear and you see, oh, man, fuck, a bunch of people are leaving L .A.And part of me is like, fuck, yes, get out.fuck out of here there's too many people here so go but then I realize nothing's really changed and I don't really notice that people have left traffic still the same a bunch of shits exactly the same and you tell me this many people left I don't see it well and I wonder if that's not not maybe a I don't know, a hyped statistic on...

Yeah, it's not a scientific analysis.No, look, the numbers are real.People have left L .A., but it doesn't matter.You could lose five million people and L .

A.'s still too big.The traffic's bananas.Dude, it's fucking ridiculous.It's retarded.It's bananas.If you want to go to Orange County at four o 'clock or shoot yourself, that's a real decision.

Drive to Orange County at four o 'clock in the afternoon.You're like, what the fuck am I doing with my life?

This is crazy.Yeah.And don't even think about hitting the 405 at all.

No.No, you're gonna have to go some sideways.Yeah, you're gonna have to go some you're gonna have to use ways Yeah, and even then you're fucked even then it's an hour and a half if you live in like Irvine And you commute to LA good.God bless you dude.God bless you.Yeah, how do you do it?

I don't know people do it every day.They just want to live in a place like Irvine real safe real nice Yeah, I gotta work in LA.Fuck it.I'll just drive in every day Fucking mad and just I would get up at 5 in the morning and just go to the gym That's what I would do.I'd get up five in the morning, drive to L .A.

I'd get a membership in L .A.at the gym.That way I'm driving with no traffic at least one way.At least getting there, I have no traffic.Yeah.

And then you deal with the home commute.Doing it to both to and from, fuck you.Fuck you.I'm not doing that.It's too gnarly.I'd rather get up at five in the morning.

I can't imagine even doing it once a day.But there's a lot of people that do it.three hours a day minimum in their car, and they really live 20 minutes away.If they didn't have traffic, they would be there in 25 minutes.

Man, that's pretty crazy when you realize all we have here on this planet is time, and you realize that kind of time You're wasting wasting and you're never gonna get back and you're like if I do this consecutive Consecutively every single day.I wonder what add that time up over you know whatever However many years and I'll bet you people would freak the fuck out.Yeah, you lost years I just lost years of my life in the fucking car.

Yeah, I But the good thing is, one thing that you can do in the car is listen to books on tape.And books on tape are amazing.And, you know, podcasts, too, for some people.But for me, a lot of it is books on tape.Because, like, you'll get lost in a book.And it doesn't even really bother you that much.

And one of the crazy, if you have a Tesla, my Tesla does auto driving.So if I want to, if I'm leaving here and there's some crazy traffic for some reason, I just go, doot, doot, doot.I just turn it on, and it goes.I don't have to hit the blinkers.I don't have to change lanes.I don't have to stop at red lights.

It does everything.De -stressed.And all I have to do is just keep my fingers on the wheel, just like this.Oh, to make it look like you're awake.No, you're supposed to stay in contact with the wheel and just keep your eyes on the road.But you don't have to think at all.

You know, you can't do that.You're not supposed to do that.It probably would still work.I don't even know.What happens if you just go to sleep?

I think it shuts down after a second.It probably recognizes that you're doing that and shuts down.

But the reality is, like, that as a stress decoupler, there's nothing like it.

Oh, man, the best.

You just put your fingers on the wheel.and just chill.And now all you're doing is sitting for an hour and a half instead of like constantly hitting the brake, constantly hitting the gas, constantly hitting the brakes.Now you're just chilling and you can get just like, listen to your book on bonsai.

Yeah.No, that is, that is nice, man. I don't know about you, but like if I start like, you know, you start reading a book, just, you know, your eyes focusing and reading.They get tired, so you get more in listening to an auditory version of it rather than, for me at least, sort of eye -stressing on reading and doing all that.I get tired and then fucking lose interest.

Yeah, there's definitely something to that.Reading always makes me want to go to sleep.That's one thing, especially reading at night helps me fall asleep.But there's also something about reading in your head because you create the voices and you create everything, like you use your imagination when you're just reading that doesn't exist with books on tape.But with audio books, I don't have the time.So for me, it's a time thing.

Like if I have a guest coming on, and the guest is like an astrophysicist that has some very bizarre theory about something, I need to absorb the information, and I have a limited amount of time.So I listen to audiobooks in the gym, I listen to audiobooks in the sauna, and I listen to it in the car on the way to work.And so that all together is a couple hours in a day.So I can do that and get a lot of information in where I wouldn't, I don't have the couple hours sit down and just read I just don't I wish I did I don't yeah so I can still get all that data and that information but I have to be very diligent about actually listening yeah that's the thing because especially at the gym you can get a little just distracted and you're like what the fuck did he just say and you have to back it up and oh yeah that happens I generally I

just shut it off.

I'm like this workouts too intense.

I can't really pay attention Yeah, you can yeah, what do they say do what you're doing when you're doing it?Yeah?Yeah people people people think they're multitasking right that doesn't fucking exist you really Yeah, whatever.You're sort of multitasking, but you're robbing from Peter to pay Paul.Thank you very much.

Yeah, you're taking away some of your attention on what you're doing to pay attention to this other thing, and it's definitely making you less good at either one of those things.And if one of them is very simple, and it's like it doesn't matter, okay, you could be distracted.Right, right.But if it's two important things, you're robbing each important thing.You're robbing attention from these things.Yeah.

There it is.

There it is.Well, I've always found that my best workouts are in silence.It's so hard to work out.You really need to only be thinking about what you're doing.And if you add in a bunch of stuff, except music.Music is always fuel for workout.

That's different sure looks.It's like music you can listen and then stop listening You could do it to be in the middle of the set.It doesn't distract you with lyrics It just keeps just gives you some energy in the air music is the ultimate companion for working out.

Yeah, no doubt No doubt so much so that David Goggins doesn't use it because he says it's cheating cheating, you know, cuz he's just a complete total psycho is that that like is that that like Ultra marathon guy.

Yeah.

Okay.I thought was the live forever guy though.

Oh, no.No, that's Brian Johnson That's the guy who like has his son's blood injected into.

Yeah, that dude.I'm sorry.

I'm confusing this David Goggins is a totally different guy He's the Navy SEAL who run I think how many ultra marathons did he run in a month something insane?He runs hundred mile races and he's like a insane fitness freak And when he works out is he's these workouts were like famously he'll take like professionalfighters, and they work out with him, and they can't keep up, and they're just throwing up, and they just can't believe how much this guy works out.And he's doing it easy, where he's just talking to them the entire time, and they can't keep up.He finished eight 100 -mile marathons in eight consecutive weekends.So he ran 800 miles in eight weekends.

He's a nut.He does like he'll he'll be like at home and just decide I'm gonna do a 60 mile ruck right now and just like throws on a backpack Gets outside and starts rucking and they'll just do 60 miles and so go out there for hours and hours just decides This is what I'm gonna do, and I'm not stopping till I'm done.He does it all the time whoa He's in insane shape, and he's 50 Wow he's in insane He also has no knees.His knees are completely destroyed.They're bone on bone.He's had a ton of operations, doesn't care, keeps going, bone on bone.

It's just a maniac.It's a complete and total maniac, but he doesn't use music because he says it's cheating.Wow!That's amazing!But that just shows you I like to cheat.I like to use that music.

I like to cheat.I need to cheat to get that energy extra.I mean, I can do it myself maybe, but why would I when I go...I mean, give me that fucking music.

If it's cheating, I'm going to cheat at that.Yeah, that's not cheating.I don't think of it as cheating.That's called an inspiration.Yes, it's an awesome supplement.

That's what I call it.There you go.But for him, it's all about mental strength and so forth.So he considers it cheating to use that mental strength.Your mental strength should be right from your brain.He goes, you can't always count on that music.

That music's not always going to be there.

I'm like, OK. I guess so.He kind of has a, I get it.Do what you're doing.

for what he does He kind of has a point.

Yeah, I could see that it's what he's focusing.Yeah, no, no, no distractions Yeah, he says he's gaining knowledge.

He says I'm gaining knowledge.I'm acquiring knowledge He must be doing leave him.I believe him because he's good He's thinking he's going into the dark realms of his mind, you know Intense suffering running hundred -mile races eight weekends in a row He's doing some serious other work.

Right.While he's running.

That's the real like deep introspective work.You want to find out who you really are?Run eight 100 mile races in eight weeks.

Imagine those conversations you're having with yourself.What the fuck am I doing?No, dude, you got this.You got this.No, dude, you're an idiot.No, bro.

Fuck yes.

I think he probably used to have those conversations.Now it's just battling demons.It's all just demons just crushing down negative thoughts, crushing down weakness, you know?I know.Fuck.There's a lot of different kinds of people in this world, Tommy.

Yeah, there are, dude.It's pretty crazy out there.

And I bet you've met every variety of them.

Just about.Oh, my God.That's funny.I know.

There's some crazy people in this world.

Yeah, there is.

But we need all of them.You know, we need our Tommy Lees.We need our David Lee Ross.We need our, you know, we need our David Goggins.We need all those people.That's what makes the world beautiful, is that there are so many different people.

You can meet somebody like, fuck, I never met a guy like him.That's nuts.

Yeah, that is what, it is wonderful.Isn't it wonderful?I mean, you must have met every fucking human being that's ever lived, practically.Dude, I feel like it, just about.

I mean, you've been famous since what year?What year did Motley Crue really break out?I'd say 80.80.That's nuts.Yeah.

Boy, that world was a different place.Oh The world was a different place.No internet.

No, no cell phones.

No was president in 1980.Uh Was that even Reagan yet?Almost when did Reagan become president?Fuck Reagan was president when I was in high school who the fuck that was in the 80s.Oh What year Jamie 81 so 1980 Reagan wasn't even president yet fuck who was How do we Jimmy Carter right?Yeah, that sounds right wasn't it Jimmy Carter before Reagan?

Yeah?Yeah, so Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan whoa dude Wow and that nuts mm -hmm 1980 hmm.What was that scene like bro that was?

I'm still to this day um Motley did We did this movie called The Dirt, and it's based on our autobiography from certain years, from this year to this year.And it shows how it fucking was.And one of the coolest things ever is when I'll see emails from fans or questions from fans, and they're like, dude.Was it and these are from like, you know, 18 year old kids are like was it?Really like that when you guys were rocking shit like that.I was like 100 % they're like fuck And they're bummed they're like we will never ever get to experience that fuck It was just full -on till the water

fall off no that you could get away with fucking murder literally there's no phones and no this was at a time where anything anything goes pretty much how old were you in 1980 in 1980 I was 18 Jesus Christ.18, 17?

So you're blowing up at 18 years old.

How the fuck did you manage?

I know, dude.Look at that picture.That's crazy.That looks like a picture from like 1940.Right?It's another world.

I know.Even the font from Motley Crue looks ancient.Totally.Wow.God, dude.Does that even seem real when you look at that picture?

Look at our fucking little cheesy cloth backdrop.Those are the wrinkles in the fabric.That's what the whiskey whiskey too fast for love fucking great song and that fucking drum riser That that right there with the lights in it.Yeah My dad fucking and my dad myself and my drum tech we built that riser, dude Like it had fucking switches.My dad was a mechanic And so he my dad built he you know He was like, you need a drum riser?All right, let's go.

I mean, dude, he would, my dad would built us pyro.Fucking he like drilled out these, or cut these big blocks of wood, ran electrical prongs up through the wood.And then you take a little small wire and you connect the tube, put a pipe over it.fill it with gunpowder, and we'd be out in my backyard, dude.And the neighbors would be all of a sudden just like, fire!There's these fucking mushroom clouds in my backyard.

And the neighbors are like, what the fuck is going on?And my dad, he loved it.He's like making bombs, lighting rigs, drum risers.And he would drive me to the gigs.In his van with all my shit like I had the best dad fucking ever.That's awesome.

Yeah, and here here's a mechanic Okay, look at this fucking setup, bro.

This is nuts.Oh, dude, right the hamster wheel.Yeah That it's crazy.That's not bro.

You were doing drums like halfway upside down Dude, the thing was gyroscoped it went around, you know, right to left back to front What is it like trying to play the drums from that position, though?That's got to be very weird.Dude, it is insane.Like, I had to, like, I had to change so many dynamics.Like, think about it.Instead of gravity, instead of gravity pulling your hand down, right?

Right.Now you've got to push.Oh, yeah.Upside down.So it becomes three times harder physically.And and also you had to make adjustments.

So.I don't know how much you know about drums, but on your pedals their foot pedals for your bass drums, right?Well, and those are chain driven pedal foot boards So when you go upside down they fall so I had to put springs I had to put springs underneath the pedals to keep them taught so they would stay up.You know I'm saying Oh, yeah, so I had in with cymbals.They they they're meant to hang a certain way They're not meant to hang upside down.So I didn't make all the pedals

adjustments technically to pull it off, but we figured it out with the hi -hat too because a hi -hat would you know the two cymbals that They would just if you're upside down.They just they just go open they all right So I had to do another spring as well to keep that closed so I could manually drive it It's all this crazy shit.

Why did you decide to do that like what was it just?

Something rad you know what that all started and it's kind of been my thing throughout history and Every year I do something fucking different and crazier of course everybody's like what are you gonna do next year?That's sort of like that's where it all started and it really started when I went to go see it was fucking Pat Travers Do you remember Pat Travers band now boom boom?Oh?Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay?Yeah, they're anyway.They were cool, and I went to go see them and Tommy Aldrich was the drummer and This is before Motley.

I'm just like whoa dude.I'm like fucking kids standing on the chair Right and his drum solo time, and he's a badass, but And he's fucking ripping, dude.All you see is sticks flying and hair fucking going.He's shredding.And I'm looking around, and I'm watching people go get a beer, people going to pee, going to get a t -shirt, going out to the lobby to fucking smoke a joint.I don't know, whatever.

Everybody's kind of leaving, and I'm like, where the fuck is everybody going?That guy is murdering the fucking drums right now, and y 'all are like, He failed to capture their attention.And from that moment on, I went, I need to figure out, A, how to give the audience a better experience.of what you're actually doing there, because people can't see.

It's not like a guitar, where you can see.

There's the that's the roller coaster.That's the that's the that's the crucify dude.That's so dope That's the light the latest one that thing went from in the front all the way to the back of the fucking Arena or stadium that's crazy dude and look at and then it it starts It starts twirling as it's going down.

Oh my god.You're upside down.That's so sick.

Look at that dude.

That is so sick.

Oh The audience must go bananas.At one point the roller coaster comes down and it's literally almost over.

They could almost touch you.

Wow.Look at that shit, dude.

How do you not get a crazy head rush when you're upside down banging on the drums?

Dude, it is so gnarly.I'm wrecked.It's nine minutes total.

Must do a lot for your core too, right?You're like, hold yourself.

Dude, I'm on the oxygen bottle When I finish I go all the way out, and then I do it all backwards Whoa go back and do it backwards and by the time I get done.I'm sitting there with the oxygen going While mick does a guitar solo.I just need a couple seconds because I am fucking done.I can imagine man.It's incredible cardio It's insane.

It's like shadow boxing for minutes at a time hardcore super fast.

Yeah I've always admired the or on the physical fitness.

Yeah, just constantly and you know what that's like man after a fucking minute of that you're like I know the physical fitness involved in playing drums must be really crazy like if you didn't play drums for like a few years and Then picked it up again and started again.It probably takes forever to get that endurance back forever, dude Cuz it's so like when you're going off dude.You're so fast So fast

It's one of the most athletic things in all of music it really is man, and and I had this I was like okay.How come I've weighed the same weight since fucking high school till today right and I'm like that's fucking weird, and I eat kind of whatever the fuck.I want to eat like I don't there's no I don't like Diet or have some strict.You know regimented food program I was like I'm gonna fucking I gotta see I got one of those This was years ago.It was like a pedometer you clip onto your shoe like joggers would use it to see how There's like the old version you just clipped it on your on your shoe, and it tells you how many miles you did and Like a little tachometer not a tachometer.Yeah, I know the domitor.

Yeah So I'm like I get one I clip it on I'm like I'm wonder what how many fucking miles I'm doing after a two -hour show I don't know fuck who knows I know I'm sweaty as fuck and I'm I'm I'm after the show all's I hear is ringing in my ear, and I'm fucking I'm wrecked.I'm done and I fucking took it off after the show and I looked down and it said 13 .3 miles and I was like So that's why I don't fucking that's why I'm just skinny fuck and like I just I'd sweat it out Travis Barker same deal same deal.

Yeah, I mean he works as well, but it's like same deal.Yeah, yeah It's like incredible amounts of cardio the amount of I wonder how many calories you burn in a two -hour show It's got to be off the charts.Yeah that I haven't measured just because it's not just jogging It's not like you're running 13 miles obviously you're sitting still but the pounding of the arms.Yes.Yesand the breathing Yeah, it's like yeah.

Yeah, everything's going man You're firing on a whole so for sure the most athletic thing in all of music for sure nothing even close Right.Yeah.No.I mean, playing guitars, you're moving your hands and everything, but it's not nearly drums.

It's more like a sport.It really is.

It really is.Like, you don't see a really out of shape drummer.

No.You know, it's almost like you can't be to keep up.No, I know.And everybody's you're kind of like You're the fucking heartbeat man.You're you're really everybody's coming.You know people say you're you're only as good your bands only as good as your drummer, and that's really fucking It's really true, and I'm not just saying that because I'm a fucking drummer, but the drummer has a lot of responsibility man everybody you all the people that you see out there that are fucking moving and I'm I'm responsible for a lot of that.

I'm not saying it for all of it right you sort of set the pace you know And and you you're making people physically move Yeah, it's like and that that's that takes that takes a lot of work You know so the amount of energy you're putting out you're getting back, and you're seeing it.You're like fuck.I'm driving here Yeah, and that's that's a cool place to be but it is a Responsibility and it is physical and it's draining, but but it's fucking rad.I live for it Did you take lessons to learn how to drum or did you learn on your own?Um, I didn't really take lessons.I learned on my own until, I mean, like kind of early in high school, I played in the marching band, but that wasn't really like drums.

That was like more like drum corps stuff, like rudiments and likeyou know drum corps shit it not really the whole kit till later I got the school my high school to let me you're sorry my grade school to let me borrow the jazz drum set at the school and I'd bring it home and then I started just like listening to my favorite shit and I would just play along.And so I never really took any physical lessons, I just...It was just in me, man. I was just really good at hearing something and going, oh, OK, I got it.

Did you have to learn how to hold the sticks?Do you hold the sticks in a conventional way, like you're taught?Or did you just figure it out on your own?I just figured it out on my own.

probably just moved on from the forks and the spoons.

It's interesting how many great musicians learned on their own.Yeah.Like Hendrix.Hendrix taught himself to play guitar.That's why he played it upside down, left -handed.He just made it work.

Yeah.Yeah.Just figured out how to do it on his own.It's really interesting how like with you know when you just get an instrument and listen to other people use it and learn how they're doing it and just kind of fuck around with it and figure it out and then doing it your own way yeah of course and then whoa then you got your own thing which is that's wonderful man well if you think about early rock and roll versus the way drums are played like like you play or like Travis plays like some elite drummer plays it's like Drums are so much.It's like it's so much more powerful now than ever before.

I know man, and then That thing happens.I don't know if you've ever been around like a like a drum circle the more drummers there are like all the sudden it just becomes this this thing it grows into this tribal like Dude, everybody's just being moved by rhythm.Yeah, and fuck it's so powerful.It's like you know I don't knowthat that kind of it's it's a more aggressive power than the kind of power where you can make somebody fucking cry playing the piano right in the right course right I'll watch them cry But yeah, that's fun man.There's nothing better than than rhythm man. I live for that shit No, I can tell I was getting trouble all the time man in school because I'd always be like Always always can you stop tapping on the tables?

Yep.Sorry Let's sit back in the back of class and be like making like water drip noises Looking around for a leak class clown.

Well, there's something about drums It's like a part of like tribal culture like from the beginning of human time like people pounding on drums For war for yeah, they pounded it on ships to keep pace with the rowing.You know there was a guy That was the drummer on a ship.

Yeah, you know to keep make sure everybody keeps pace.

It's kind of wild cool You know that they knew even back, then there's something about the sound of drums.

That's important The heartbeat you ever fuck around with bongos Oh, sure.Yeah, a lot of hand instruments, bongos, congas.I just, over the last couple of years, have been playing...A hand drum people call them a hang drum hand drum.You know them have you seen them?They're like they look like a fucking flying saucer Oh, yeah, I have yeah, and they're really melodic really beautiful zany Sounding instrument that's cool because it's percussive and melodic so you can come up with these really bitchin depending on how the Instruments tuned and stuff, but that's been a lot of fun that that's cool like sort of

a different kind of rhythm but it's it's a it's a soothing one it's a total opposite of the aggressive shit right right right well I mean it must be fun since you've been playing drums for so long just experiment with different things mmm I love that man there's I'm always searching for a new sound you know a new percussive sound that moves you, makes you fucking, I don't know, it gets inside you.I'm always on the hunt, dude, I'm such a tweaker, like, I'll find something that sonically sounds like a drum, it could be a drum, it's not, and I'll make it, I'll turn it into something that sounds like a drum, and all of a sudden, you know, that, you know, I don't know, hitting on these L -corns or something, sounds like a woodblock, But pitched way, way down, it sounds more like a note going...I don't know.I love percussion and rhythm, so I'm always fucking around trying to find something that moves us, you know?That's my job.I'm here to move you, man.

It's a cool fucking job.I like it, man.It doesn't suck.No.It doesn't suck.No.

When you're working on a new song, when you're creating a new song, what is your process?Do you have a beat in your head?Do you sit down and just start fucking around until something comes to you?Like, how do you do it?

You know what?It's always different.I wish I could say I had like a Thing I really don't man like what you know it'll be Something that happened to me or something.I'm experiencing will spark a word or a changeAll of a sudden, then I'll pick up a fucking guitar and be like, oh, this is killer.Or sometimes they come with a beat.

I'm like, oh, this is a fucking killer beat.This would be great.And then I'll start with a beat and then add guitars.It's never really, there's not really like a format.I just kind of go with whatever's sort of inspiring me at the time that I feel like I need to write about.Yeah, there's not really like a way.

I know a lot of people have a methodical way like, well, I start with the lyric first, always the lyric first.Nothing else is important.Okay, dude.Why don't we get why don't we get people to move first before you try to seduce them with these fucking crazy words?Actually, no one's gonna even like a true drummer.No one's gonna even get to these fucking words.

If you can't get them to move.stay listening, or to move, and they're like, oh, this is nice.Isn't that the key moment when you're like, ooh, this is cool?Before you've even heard a lyric or a melody, that's kind of my thing.my priority is like, is it moving me?Yeah.

Okay, let's go.It seems like having a bunch of different methods to get there is probably better anyway.Yes.Because there's all sorts of different paths to get to the prize.Right.And having a bunch of different methods of creativity is probably better.

It's going to give you - It frees you up more.Different results, right?Yeah.Instead of being, okay, well, it's going to start to sound the same if you keep using the same method.

Yeah, when you write do you write down on paper or do you just yeah, yeah, yeah paper No, you ever write on computer or do you ever like just write in your own head?

You're just like I use a computer a lot to a lot for excuse me for demos.That's a really quick way toknow where I can I can present a song to the band where you know fuck I play guitar sing drums bass so I'll I'll bring in demos that totally created by you yeah just sounds they sound finished you know it's like okay and then you know and we'll go from there so yeah I always try to like You know, not finish everything entirely, because, you know, when you're in a band with three other guys, you also create, kind of leave it open for that.But yeah, I'd use the computer a lot to sort of compose the ideas and get them recorded, sort of produce them.

It's really beautiful that, you know, Motley Crue hit in 1980, here we are 46 years later, and you still love it.I know that's so awesome isn't that that's what everybody wants in this life something that they're passionate about that Remains a passion it stays and if anything grows as a passion still exciting still enticing still Captivates you yeah 1980 the world was a different place I mean Think about where we were in the universe in 1980 and how the entire solar system is spiraling through the galaxy, which is spiraling through space.Like, we've moved how many fucking million miles?Since 1980.I know that's what that's hard to think about.You know, have you ever seen what the, you know, we always want to think about the sun being in the center of our solar system and the planet spinning around it.

But have you ever seen what the whole solar system looks like, like moving through space?The whole thing's moving through space.

It's not stationary.

It's not like we're sat there and we're just spinning around.Yeah, and everybody else is just sitting there.No, the fucking whole thing is hurling through space.So in 1980, we were in a totally different spot in the universe.

That's crazy.That is crazy.

The world was different.People were different.Information was different.Our version of reality was different.

Everything.

Everything was different.Fuck.And you wrote it out from answering machines to pagers to fucking sidekicks to iPhones to the internet to everything.

Remember the Motorola brick phone.Oh, yeah.Yeah, dude.You're a pimp if you have one of those Look at it.

This is what it looks like.This is see what most people think our solar system looks like But this is what it actually is doing.Oh, it's how our solar system actually moves So look the Sun's hurling through space and all the planets are spinning around it as it hurls through space.Oh, isn't that crazy?Where's earth there earth is with the third planet from the Sun Oh The blue one right there.So just think about that.

How many rips?

Yeah.How many rips have we done since 1980?We're in a different place in the fucking universe than we were in 1980.How far?Let's ask this.How far has the solar system moved through the universe since 1980?

Let's ask Perplexity that.Oh my God.This is one of the best uses of AI.Stupid information like this.

Yes.Yeah, it is.It is. I'm going to guess.

100 million miles.just a wild guess.I have no idea.I might be off by a hundred million Well, let me see what it looks like Roughly two to three.I think a light -year is a trillion miles Two to three light -years through space.Okay, how many miles is a light -year put that in?

Right, but how many miles is a light -year?I think it's a trillion fuck we're going in Oh, a light year is 5 .88 trillion miles.Dude!Okay, so think about that.Think about how many trillions of miles Earth has traveled through the universe since Motley Crue bust out onto the scene.Dude.

Think of that.And a trillion is a thousand billion, right?Yes, a thousand billion.How many thousand billion miles has the Earth moved through?So it was like two to three It was two to three light years?Okay.

And each light year is how many trillion?

5 .88.

5 .88.How about that?So you're dealing with roughly... 15 plus Trillion miles dude.We're old Old as fuck.

You know 1980 I was in junior high school.I don't know about old, but fuck we've traveled.

We have fucking traveled Yeah, we have fucking traveled.Yeah, but that's that's a freaky thing to think about how far We're in a different place in the universe.Well.

I thank you for that bit of information.That's nice to To I don't knowJust to think about it.Dude, you know how many miles I fucking traveled, bro?Yeah.

15 plus trillion.Trillion?Just since Motley Crue bust out onto the scene.

What was it like being that famous at 18?That had to be nuts.It's fucking bizarre, dude.Like, I don't even know how to explain it.Just imagine having the fucking, I don't know, the keys to the fucking, Pretty much anything you wanted to do try.What was the first crazy thing you bought when you first started making cheddar first thing I bought was uh Was my fucking dream car.

It was a fucking 82 Corvette T -top nice tops popped out what color it was a champagne color.Oh Nice, it's kind of silvery gold Yeah Fucking rad, dude.I don't know when you were a kid.

In 82, the Corvette was one of the only American cars worth buying.Because in 82, they were still dope looking.Pull up a 1982 Corvette.Yeah, they're still like mustangs look like hot dog shit in 82.They look fucking terrible.They look terrible Camaros look like shit everything look like shit.

They were all like plastic garbage.That's still dope Yeah, like that's still dope today.

That's the color.

I had look at that That's the one look at that make that bigger.Look at that That is a fucking dope car today.Yeah, it's one of the only american cars from 1982 that looks dope today Like pull up a 1982 Mustang.1982 Mustang's gonna make you want to vomit.I know a lot of people that are like fans of the Fox body.Look at that!

What is that?Garbage!Bro, that looks like a gremlin.It looks like straight horse shit.That's whatever the fucking Russians did to us.Or really the Nixon administration by fucking blocking drugs.

Look at how ugly that is.That is fucking disgusting.Look how fucking disgusting that is.Now, I want you to do this.Pull up a 1969 Boss 429 Mustang.Put up the pinnacle, the pinnacle of muscle cars.

Look at that motherfucker!Look at that.

Look at the difference between 1969 and that fucking dog shit 1982.Look at that motherfucker.Look at that thing.That's a real car.But they blocked the drugs.They kept those car makers from having drugs and they all make garbage except Corvette.

Yeah, Corvette still stuck with that style because Corvettes were fiberglass So they weren't as limited in terms of like the shapes, you know They had those cool swervy lines to them and they kept those until Oddly enough the 90s they started getting shitty in the 90s Wow, that's crazy I wonder who's got that car.I don't know Somebody has Tommy Lee's 1982 Corvette somebody they have to you know that thing's still running.Yeah, probably hopefully yeah Well, they a lot of those they take them and make resto mods out of them now They put like a modern engine and modern brakes and everything so they handle better and modern suspension.

Yeah, I immediately fucking me and my buddy justtook that car and fucking put a fucking blower and Injection on it this fucking insane dude in the glove box This is before like now we have you know a bunch of super rad tuned exhaust you know You know straight pipe shit loud as fuck.This is before that We we made a couple of cutouts and in the glove box like if the cops were to come you just open the glove box and take these two they're like choke levers mm -hmm and you pull them pull them out and the flaps would Disconnect them and just go straight from the headers out and bypass the mufflers And if the cops are coming you just push these two choke levers in and back to the mufflers all quiet Yeah, they have switches for that now with a lot of cars like custom -made cars They have exhaust switches that do that, but they don't do it to that extent where it just goes straight pipes.

Yeah, yeah That must have sounded fucking amazing So rad yeah, I mean there's nothing like rock and roll and muscle cars like those are two things that are like completely connected forever Yeah, another fucking rad car that I never got, but I always wanted to, was like the fucking Shelby Cobra.

Oh yeah.The big fucking pipes blowing right just loud as fuck.

like four inch exhaust like yep dude that shit's throaty and just tiny little car little fiberglass car go -kart with a 427 in it crazy power no weight at all it weighs nothing yeah it just doesn't burn outs the whole time too much I have a buddy of mine who has one of those it's nuts like but it freaks me out it's like there's no protection here if you get an accident like it's like nothing to this car yeah you know you have no roof you don't even have a roll barIt's like just got this little tiny windshield.You're behind the wheel of an engine, just a giant engine with four wheels.

Yeah, you're done.Yeah.One bad move.Pretty dope.

Yeah, super rad.Yeah, like one of those, like look at that fucking thing.

Dude, I'm sorry, but that's the fucking sickest shit.Radical looking.

Look at the flared the thing is to they make a lot of recreations now Yes, the old ones are worth like millions of dollars dude.I know yeah, but you can get a recreation and experience the exact same thing sure There's a ton of recreations now, and they're fucking great And they look the same, and it's like, yeah, it's not worth as much money, but who fucking cares?

Just go drive it, it's awesome.

Yeah, if you just enjoy it.Look at that thing.Jeez.Bro, look at, jeez.Ah, that thing's slow.Carbon fiber, oh my goodness, look at that fucking thing, it's all carbon fiber.

Ah, fuck, let's go.That must weigh 14 pounds.Let's go get a couple, dude.

Dude, who's making that?Click on that link.Who's making that fucking thing?Yeah, probably is.Well, I know, yeah, Classic Recreations, that same company that does those dope 67 GT500s.They're making a Classic Recreations.

1 ,000 horsepower!Oh, dude.Dude, it weighs 2 ,300 pounds.That's nuts.1 ,000?The carbon fiber body is only 88 pounds.

2 ,000 power 2 ,000 pounds of suspension frame and wheels and engine and that's it Sick that's so sick.

That's just straight trouble right there.

That's gonna get in trouble.Yeah, we're not just fun.

Yeah, but it's America fuck.

Yeah.I love those cars.What else did you buy that I know preposterous?Yeah, what else did you buy?That's nuts

When they first came out, me and my bass player bought like almost fucking at the same time that Ferrari had come out with the Testarossa.

Oh, the Miami Vice car.

Totally, dude.

Yeah.

I had a car broker find me a black on black one.Oh, man.And it was just like, fuck.Okay.This is insane The listeners will probably appreciate this you buy a fucking car for 200 at the time $250 ,000 for the Testarossa Get it shipped from it came in from from Florida to LA I'm pulling the plastic off the seats as brand fucking new Back it down the fucking car carrier, and I'm in the dudes kind of showing me.You know what's up, and I fucking I look to the right of the steering wheel, there's like a cover.

So I grab it and you open it up where the stereo would be.I open it up and I go, where's the stereo?The guy goes, oh Enzo believed that the music that you should be listening to is the sound of the engine.And I'm like, Well, that's fucking rad and everything, Enzo, but bro, I just spent a quarter of a million dollars and I want to fucking crank shit loud as fuck here and breaking the speed limit.Like, come on.Who does that and I so I had to go I got a stereo at the time there was there was no?

Subwoofers there was a bazooka tube was available you could drop.There's no room to So you could you could get a bazooka tube behind the seats right and some fucking you knowFor a subwoofer and some other speakers in the doors and decent door speakers.Yeah, they're only decent back then yeah, and Alpine receiver, but I got it to bump, but I just found it fucking just shocking that like That that much money for a car, and you still don't get a stereo.

It's pretty ridiculous.Yeah, but They did sound incredible.

And I totally get it.

Like there's a sound that those things make.This is just like it's heavenly.It's totally different than the American sound of the muscle car sound.The muscle car sounds my all time favorite.But there's something melodic about those Ferrari engines.It's like a sound just like it.

Oh, there's a sound that it has.It's like it's it's so spectacular.It's just Engineering and it's wine and pasta and a fucking windy road and just totally you know bunch or no Fuck yeah, man.Oh, those things are there's something special.And again, it's what is that?It's a piece of passion.

It's artwork.It's artwork.That's, you know, made into an engineering form.

Yeah, that we get to play with.Yeah, basically a race car.

Yeah.You know, like a friend of mine, we were talking about like Ferrari, do you think Ferraris are worth it?I go listen, man, rich people aren't stupid.They're not stupid.If Ferraris weren't worth it, they wouldn't keep buying them.Have you ever driven one?

Yeah.No, trust me.They're fucking worth it.

Yeah.

Like, yeah, it's a ridiculous amount of money.It's not worth it, really, for a normal person.But if you have like an insane amount of money and you could experience that, the thing Ferrari fucked up on big time is they took away the manual transmission.They fucked that up.Yeah, they fucked that up.Porsche is the only one who kept it.

They're the only one smart enough to realize, like, there's a part of the transmission

that you got a fucking Yeah, yeah, bring it back cut the shit yeah guys just silly dude Did you see the fucking electric car they just released which one the Ferrari that was dogshit?

Dude, they fucked that up.That looks like a joke.It looks like that looks like something that someone made for just to get engagement online.Like it's fake, but it's real.I know I couldn't.I was like, it looks as good as those 1982 Mustangs.

Yes, it looks like a Ferrari electric car.Oh, yeah.

Look at it, dude.It looks so boring.What?

And so nothing.Even inside you're like this looks like cheap dog shit.

Yeah, I don't understand it.I don't get it either I thought it was like a joke I know you know like you know like look at this.

It's got suicide doors.It's kind of dope That's kind of cool, but you know what it's really dope on a 65 continental not on this fucking thing ugly ugly fucking Monstrosity that's funny.

You mentioned that car.That's another one of my favorites.

Oh Yeah, fucking I know a guy who's got one for sale that's a resto mod and I'm fucking really It's a 65 black convertible with the suicide doors, and it's just do it It's mint and it's got a new engine in it like a modern engine, and it's got fucking to a perfect suspension And it looks so radical.Oh, there's something about that car especially in a convertible the 65 the convertible That's my oh good luck parking anywhere.Yeah, you might as well be parking a yacht.It's a fucking boat.It's so big It's so big It's so big, but it's so sick.It's just I can't understand it.

how Ferrari can make now I want you to pull up a Ferrari 458 Italia So I think the 458 is their masterpiece.I think it's the best looking Ferrari that they ever made.There's a lot of them that look great.There's a lot of them that are amazing.But for me, there's something about when they came up with the 458.It's just they nailed it.

You look at that.Oh my God, look at that fucking thing.That is a work of art.It's so beautiful.A lot of people think it's the greatest Ferrari ever.Also doesn't have a manual transmission, which sucks a fat dick.

But other than that, go back to that last picture that you had of that one.Look at that one.Make that bigger.Look at that color.It's a shitty picture.But God, it's fucking beautiful.

Amazing design.Those are beautiful.Now think of the company that made that.Also, go with that black one right there where your cursor just was.Click on that one.Oh, baby.

Look how sick that is.And how do you go from that to that electric piece of shit you guys just released?I don't know.

Fuck you.Fuck you for doing that.

How dare you?

I bought an F8, the Tributo, which is very, very similar to that.

And that fucking car is badass.No, they make incredible cars.And somehow or another, less douchey than a Lamborghini.I don't know how they did it.Yeah.You know what I mean?

It's like something about a Ferrari that you have when it's sophisticated, you know?

Yeah.Whereas if you have a Lamborghini, like, look at this douchebag.

Yeah.

Meanwhile, Lamborghinis are awesome.

Yeah.They're awesome.But why is that?Why are they, like, attached?I guess because it's kind of like, I don't know.I don't know.

Maybe rappers or something started.I don't know.They started leasing them.

It doesn't make sense.sense it's like there's something about them that's more ostentatious it's more obnoxious the doors yeah it's just like just too showy I know I have a buddy of mine who loves Ferrari he's a rich guy and he loves Ferrari he's like I can't drive a Lamborghini I'm like why not he's like it's just I feel like a douchebag.I'm like, okay, I know what you're saying.There's a real thing there, but I don't know why.Because Lamborghinis are fucking amazing.

Yeah, they fucking too have an amazing sound.Different from Ferrari.A little higher, whinier.But sick.But they bark.

Like what is the latest Lamborghini?They have some crazy new one that they just released last year.It's insane.It's as wide as a fucking trailer.It's huge.I don't know the name of it.

I've never had a Lamborghini.Yeah, me either.I drove one once on a track.It was a little loose.Which one's that?Temerino?

Temerario.Temerario.That looks amazing.Yeah That one there we go Huracan, that's another set all the Huracan.Yeah, it's a little smaller and lighter.I think Yeah, dude.

It's also amazing.You give an 18 year old kid that kind of power in a car and you're still alive.

I Know I know Fuck yeah those those kind of cars will will definitely check you keep you in check too because it's not until you know over a hundred miles an hour getting closer to 200 miles an hour to where you're in that car and you're like it hits you you go if I make one fuckingtiny little error here.It's over It's over.It's over.Yeah, the motors in the fucking back.Yeah, and if this thing runs into off the road or whatever It's just gonna accordion right into me, and you're you're you're done.

It's kind of amazing you just buy one and You know, I thought about that now, like they have the new Corvette ZR1, it has a thousand horsepower from the factory.So you could just go into a Corvette dealership, if you got the cash, slap down some money and you have a thousand horsepower car that goes zero to 60 in two seconds.And you just go out there and be like, bye, good luck.Be safe.Yeah, like what are you doing?How are you allowed to have that like that?

You have to have a pilot's license to drive one of those things totally or just you know racetrack only whatever right but imagine you're an 18 year old rock star Got one and back then the Corvettes like yours, especially when you put a blower on it Yeah, those fucking things had no traction control.They had no anti -lock brakes.There's no nannies.There was nothing to protect you No, it was just madness pure madness Did you ever take it to a track or anything?No, never did.Have you ever driven around a track?

Yes, yes.

That's fun.Yeah, that is fun.That is fun.I went to, I spent some time at the Skip Barber school.Oh really?Yeah.

Of course, the Libra in me has to fucking learn about everything.Apex and studying.There's a lot of physical and technical things about driving.If you don't understand about going into a turn at fucking 100 miles an hour, you're going to fucking die.I was like, ah.

You're definitely going to spin out.Yeah, learn.how to do it was really interesting to me.It was really interesting to realize the lines that you take.You don't just go in the middle of the track all the way.No, you're hugging the outside edge, then the inside edge, and cutting the lines to make a quicker time, and knowing when to brake, and knowing when you would accelerate.

And it's so interesting.It's a lot, man.Very technical.

Yeah.

A lot more technical than anybody would ever think.You think you're just kind of steering the car like, no, no, no, no.There's a lot of decisions to be made.Made it's a lot going on especially on a really windy turn like this.That's what Coda looks like That's the track.Yeah circuit of the Americas and that one is like there's so much turns Yeah, there's a long straightaway.

You could really fucking good after it, right?

Yeah, and it's not even about the acceleration a lot of times.

It's about the braking Yeah, I mean fighting and turning dude It's like that's one of the things that I say like is really worth it about having money is like experiencing a great car because it's like an Amusement park ride yes, you know you're not even going fast just driving normal speeds around It's like if you're shifting your own gears, and you hear that engine Yeah, it's an amusement park ride You know it's not it's not just you're not just driving a car you're Experiencing something that you know the other people aren't you driving that stupid Ferrari piece of shit electric car You're not experiencing that no You know, no, no, you're just grooving on the emblem.Yeah.Yeah, they got you.Yeah, that could have been a Hyundai easily.Dude, I couldn't believe it.I was like, they did not do this.

Well, I hope they rebound.Yeah, they like smack somebody who made that and go, hey, bro, they will.

I think one of the designers was one of the guys who was involved in designing the iPhone, and it fucking looks like it.No.That's why it's got all the...Yes.No!

That guy's awesome.How did he do that?That started to make sense.I was like, okay.I would ask him before I even talked to him about it.I'm like, what kind of cars do you have?

Do you have a car?What do you drive?And if he's like, I drive an Escort, like, fuck you.Okay.Get the fuck out of here.Yeah.

I have a Prius.Go eat shit.Eat all the shit that's ever been shit.

Fuck you.Out of the design room.You can't, you can't design a fucking Ferrari just because you made an iPhone.You're going to make it look sleek and plain.Yeah.No, it's got to look like art, you motherfucker.

So I was paying a quarter million dollars for this thing.

And now a lot more.I think the electric cars, I want to say three, 330 I bet they're gonna sell two right two retards.

Yeah, two fucking super rich retards gonna buy that fucking thing nobody gonna spend $400 ,000 on this electric thing Meanwhile the other cars they make are fucking yeah, I know What is the the latest one?What is the what is their their main one now?the sleek, the advanced version of the 458, like the one they have now.What is it called?SF, what the fuck is it called?SF90?

SF90, yeah, that's what it is.SF90, that thing's insane.

That's gorgeous.

That's a gorgeous car.How do they go from an SF90, they're selling that at the same time as they're selling this hunk of junk.SF90 is one of the best looking cars ever.It's incredible.

Pull up a picture of one of those, Jamie.And have you, dude, have you seen the body stuff?I love the LaFerrari, the body style and the LaFerrari.

Yeah, that's it.That's the one.

Oh, dude, that's got some LaFerrari in the ass end.

Oh, so this is like all the cars they've ever made.I'm on their website.Yeah.Oh, no, I understand.This is all the cars that they make and all the cars.Look at this.

gorgeous man.That's gorgeous Ferrari yeah Look at that thing What is the f80 click on the f80?Oh my gorgeous gorgeous when it says all models They don't have the what is it?I was looking for I was trying to find what I went to the website to find the newest car I know, but I think like some of them, it's not the newest car.Like it might've been like last year, a year ago.

They would imagine.

No, it's real, Jamie.We just Google for, okay.I'm just saying, just Google, um, put, pull up an image of Ferrari 2024 Ferrari, uh, SF 90.Maybe you'll see it.

There it is.Oh, the wing.

That's a, that's one that's like prime for racing, but you go to images, please.

There you go.That's it.

Oh, So how does a company make that?Like, look how gorgeous that is.That's incredible.That's so beautiful.How does a company make that?And then that Johnny Ivey piece of shit.

Fucking thing.There was like three, three dudes, one dude, like, I guess, designed the iPhone and there's a couple.There's two other designers involved.They probably work for Lamborghini.They're probably spies.

They infiltrated and decided to ruin it from the inside.Probably the same guy that made Billy Squire's music video.Dude, that guy's got to be stopped.Fuck that guy.He's like, listen to what I did for Billy Squire.I can do this to Ferrari.

I can thank them.

I took Ferrari down.

Yeah, with one whack ass fucking electric car.

Yes, I sold them a phone design.Yeah.

But, you know, that's what happens.You let people...You know, you don't have enough people that are smart that are artistic around that are gonna look at that and go.

Hey, hey, hey No, yeah.No.Yeah, what's with all the yes, man.There had to be somebody that went.What are we doing?

I don't know how the fuck who signed off ever got greenlit by someone at Ferrari Yeah, how do you not look at all the other cars that you've made and then look at that one?It goes.

I'm perfect.

Yeah perfection No, nobody was doing that.

I don't get it.No, but you know Companies make blunders.You know, every now and then a band puts out a shitty record.

You know what?It happened.It happens.It happens.I get it.

I mean, Ferrari's still Ferrari.They'll bounce back.But, you know, guys.

They can always go, hey, we're not in the electric car business, OK?We fucked up.

Well, that's what they probably should, because most of the other car companies that do make electric cars, people really don't want them.You know like the Porsches the Ticans like yeah those Audis like the Audi ones that are just like a couple of years old there You can get it for like half price.

Yeah, nobody wants them.I know nobody wants electric cars especially used electric cars Yeah, that's weird.

It is, but if you think about it like electronics we think of as disposable, right?You think you know what you don't want to buy someone's phone from ten years ago No, no, right, so you don't want to buy a Tesla from ten years ago either.No right meanwhile.They're great.There's nothing wrong with them Yeah, the ten -year -old Tesla.It's a fucking awesome It's an awesome car, but you don't want it.

People think of electronics as something you throw out and get new.With engines, that's a different story.You know, like a 2005 Porsche is still very valuable.People love those things.

Oh, yeah.Those things have gone through the roof lately, like with the Porsches.I just know of so many guys that are just, like, buying them up, collecting them.

Well, I think also as things become moreand more numb, people like, they really love the sound of engines and the feel that you get from those cars, the actual experience of it.

Yeah.

You know?

Yeah.

It's like, as things get more and more digital, I think with AI and music and everything, people are going to want to see live performances more, you know?

No doubt.Yeah.

I think they they they want that experience the experience of like raw live Something that makes you feel alive something all about the experience man all about it Are you you guys are touring again?

Yeah coming up?Mid -july we're out how fucking pumped you for that couple months so pumped because I've actually We've been home.We just we did this big stadium tour with Def Leppard Went all around the world.That tour was, fuck, two and a half years long.Like, dude, that's insane.And I started to realize, I'm like, fuck, I can't remember the last time I've been home with a break.

We intentionally were like, let's just fucking take a year or more than a year off.It wasn't until 2016 was the last time we had taken a break.So for me, it's just been fucking wonderful.I actually enjoyed the whole last summer at home.And going into summer now, we're getting ready to go back out.But just having that time at home was really fucking cool.

So I'm super pumped.The grass is always greener, dude.When you're out there fucking ripping it, you're like, this is fucking red.And then after a while, you're like, I'd shoot my own mom in the back to sleep in my fucking bed.And then when you're at home too long, you're like, dude, I gotta get out of here.I gotta go fucking go do the shit.

So it's, I don't know, it's a weird balance.

You're happy until it's too much, and then you know what's just achieving the balance But it's awesome that you still love it so much after all all these years.

Oh, man There's really is dude.Let me just tell there's nothing better than Imagine right it Let's trade places for a second You're back there.You're playing drums, and you've been doing this for a while Long enough to see this is the fucking best in the world you see your fans all of a sudden your fans have had children.Now their children are on the shoulders of their fucking parents who were your fans.Now they're bringing their kids to the show and their fucking kids are on their dad's shoulder going, shout, shout with the fucking devil horns up.And you're like, you're sitting there going like, dude, that kid, what is he, fucking 10?

And he's just fucking, you know, and just air drumming.Yeah, just to see that you've, you've sort of, you know, you've, I don't know, just you've done a full circle to where now it's the whole nother generation that's just now seeing this for the first time.And they're fucking and you and you're sitting back there playing going like, that's pretty fucking incredible.It's pretty fucking incredible.doesn't get old man to watch that happen is Probably why the become the reason why I love it so much that really like puts a fucking nail in it You know what I mean fuck that's that's like then that can only be achieved through through time.Yeah, right That's nothing.

I've ever experienced until Until recently, the last few years, you look out and you see a whole bunch of kids, man, and they're all just checking it out for the first time, maybe.Wow.For sure, some of them.Right?And you're like, dude, fuck, this is wild.

Wild.That's awesome, man.Yeah, that's beautiful.Brother, you've had an amazing life.It's been an amazing ride, and I'm so happy that you're enjoying it so much.

Thanks, bud.

Thank you, man.And thank you for being here, man.It was really cool.I really enjoyed it.

Thank you for having me, man.My pleasure.My pleasure.I've been wanting to come by and see you and come hang out.Talk shit.

I'm glad we did it.Yeah, we did it.All right.Thank you