Joe Rogan Experience #2522 - Tony Hinchcliffe

Yeah, the world's crazy center of the storm I think I think the world's back at war today again like officially, right?I don't think that agreement with Iran lasted at all.I think there's there was bombings today in Lebanon and I think there's bombings today in American bases I try to not pay attention, dude.I really do.I try to distract myself with science stuff and space.I was watching this documentary yesterday on how they make chips, like how they make like semiconductor chips.

Dude this fucking machine that they use I'm gonna send you this Jamie because it's bananas it's like one of the most complex machines in the world and This this machine they use to make semiconductors make chips And they were explaining the process of making these chips how fucking nuts it is man the the amount of atoms that are stacked on and like the way they do it to make these like super complex high -end chips There's people out there, Tony, that are doing things way different than us.Okay?We're out there talking about sucking dicks and people shitting themselves.And what's going on in other parts of the world is people are doing science fiction.Like they're actually doing science fiction.Here it is.

Give me a second.I like to save things.Here it is.The world's most important machine.Yes.Did you find it?

Yeah, but just go to the there's some animation where they show how they make these things Like it was right where you were at yeah, okay?Oh, okay, so they're just showing some of the The different aspects of how these things are made look go back to where that guy had the laser beam That's perfect actually where that guy had the laser beam, so this is him explaining this so look at this back it up a little bit And give me some volume Can you back it up a little bit, please?

I want to introduce it to you with a thought experiment.Imagine you are shrunk down to the size of an ant, and you're given a laser that's strong enough to melt through metal like butter.Next, a tiny droplet of molten tin, roughly the size of a white blood cell, is shot out in front of you around 250 kilometers per hour.And your task is to hit this not once, not twice, but three times in a row in 20 microseconds with your little laser.Well, that is exactly what this machine does.It hits one tiny tin droplet three times in a row, heating each one up to over 220 ,000 Kelvin.

That's roughly 40 times hotter than the surface of the sun.And it doesn't just hit one droplet.It hits 50 ,000 droplets every single second.How often do you miss a laser shot?

We don't miss them.

What?You do 150 ,000 laser shots a second, and you don't miss one.Exactly.The same machine also contains mirrors that might just be the smoothest objects in the universe.If you scale one up to the size of the earth, then the largest bump would be no thicker than a playing card.On top of that, it is able to overlay one layer of a chip perfectly on top of another and never be off by more than five atoms.

And this is all happening while parts of the machine whip around at accelerations of over 20 times.For 30 years, almost everyone thought that actually building this machine was impossible.And yet it exists.There is only one company in the world that can make it.So what is this company?And what is this impossible machine they've built?

This video is - That's it.Wow.

Yeah.What are they doing with that?all computers, like computer chips that are getting better and better and better, all these AI chips, this is how they make them.

One interesting thing I can just add, I know, when they make those, they make like a big sheet of chips, you know, like there'll be like 30 or 50 of them.They'll test each one, and the ones that are the best, like to test like one out of 100, ones that are like closest to 100 become like the i9 chip.And if it's like 85 out of 100, it becomes like the i7 chip.So they all come off the same sheet.It's like the best ones become the best chips.

They sell them for the most money No kidding interesting So where there was that issue with that Samsung chip factory and it was about they weren't getting the results that they wanted So it's probably they were getting more of the shitty chips.Yeah, not enough of the perfect really high -end chips Yeah, I mean imagine if everybody died It was just us in this room, and there was like three late well be more than that we'd have to have more people I thought I was gonna fuck up the gene pool.We're all gonna look like the English Royals We need we probably need a few thousand people a few thousand people like regular people like you And I that don't know shit about how these things work Yeah, how much time would we need if we repopulated the earth with what we know?Basically you starting out like a fucking like a half -assed prepper.Yeah You know like someone was on an episode of lost you know like one of those peopleplane crash people trying to figure out how to survive out there.

You're fucked.Oh, yeah, you're not inventing that How long's it gonna take?Infinity and how many people have to pave the way this is the thing for every one of these people that makes an invention like this you're making this on the back of Thousands and thousands and thousands of fucking super geniuses that have figured out each and every step of the way that can lead you to thinking Is this possible that we could do this next, you know, they all build on each other.So you need all these guys and Hopefully they don't get any pussy.Otherwise, they're gonna get distracted You know I bet if one of them gets a hot wife like one of their patents kicks and they start making bank and then also he shows up for working a Ferrari and Next, you know, he's got a hot wife.Everybody's like, oh my god.

Yeah civilization just went back 200 years we're gonna lose Tim.

Yeah Tim's Tim's taking a head of all coding 18 hours a day trying to figure out how to get us to Mars Actually, that's a bad point because Elon clearly gets pussy and doesn't seem to be affecting him at all.I think Elon's different.He's definitely different.Yeah.

I mean, some people are different, different, different.

It's fascinating how many people want to find flaws in what he's doing instead of just looking at this like, wow, this is an extraordinary time to be alive.But it's because of this narrative that people have.One of them the big one is this USAID is killing people narrative that people have died because of USAID and then a bunch of people have given examples of how Them cutting the funding has led to the end of certain people's lives like where they were in hospitals that didn't have any funding and There's a lot of that that you could point to say right if they had the money They would have had the funding and they would have had that equipment in place or maybe they wouldn't have but here's the other thing That's notdiscounting the fact that a lot of that money is fraud.Yeah, a lot of it.Like, it's not a little amount.

And the idea that you should let it go on, because it's going to save lives, and there's a bunch of people that are stealing money.Okay, I see that argument.Why are we sending them money in the first place?Like what's did we do something to them?Do we owe them money?No, okay.

We're just being nice.Are you sure we're just being nice?Is there anybody profiting of us off of us being nice?Because usually just being nice for no reason and just giving tax money away for no reason I don't think they do that.I don't think that's real.I used to think that was real.

I used to think that charity was real.And now I look and I go, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.This is a giant scam that's wrapped up in virtue.It's wrapped up in a nice cozy blanket of being kind and compassionate and virtuous and doing good things for people all around the world.I think a lot of people get involved in those things because that's what they think.We're going to do good things around the world, the good people.

I really believe that.And then they find out how it really works.And then they get stuck in that system and then they're making their way up their, you know, air quotes, corporate ladder to the point where some of them are making a million dollars a year.And you're like, what is this?What is this?This is a business.

This isn't really charity.Most of the money is going to your employees and your overhead and your, why do you have such a big building?It's like, what are you doing?How come you're not just funneling the money to these people?Exactly.Like the LA fire aid.

Great example.Spencer Pratt told me, what number did he say of non -profits got that money?So over $100 million gets raised.I don't know the exact total.All of it goes to these different non -profits.I think he said 200 different non -profits got the money.

And then what happens to that?Well, they just pay their employees.They pay overhead.They pay their rent on fucking nice office on wherever they live.Fuck man.It's so disheartening because you've so that's what all that stuff is and it's also if you listen to wait when Mike Benz has been on my podcast a few times and explains USAID and People think of it as aid you think of it as oh, we're helping the world, which is great, right?

But it's not that it's the Agency for International Development and it involves funding rap bands overseas that are the subversive rap bands that are supposed to Excite people to take over the government.There's like a bunch of like weird shit funds rebels it funds newspapers and what was he talking about like there was a lot of it like Funding rap music like this is crazy people have long said that Rap music even though listen you love hip -hop.I know you just got back from Kanye West I'm a huge hip -hop fan.

You got to talk about that.

It's we definitely do I love hip -hop But there's some people that believe that gangsta rap in particular when it came about in the 1980s was a part of the push to popularize it and produce it was a part of the the government, some faction of the government, some intelligence agencies, wanting to create more crime, wanting to fill more private prisons, wanting to erode the fabric of society so they could push for more laws to keep you safer.This is like one of the most tinfoily of tinfoil hat conspiracies.But people are pointing out that right now it's like one of the rare times where no rap music is on the charts.And they're saying, well, how does this coincide with USAID?Was USAID like actively promoting rap music?Was that one of the reasons why rap music was so popular?

Is that real?

that can't be real maybe back in the day?It seems like that would be more manipulative.

I don't see I believe that until I heard mumble rap I'm like this makes This is not real.This is trying to make people stupid.Yeah, there's there's something about this You know and obviously some artists are better at it than some of them are fun the way they do it But I'm saying there's a giant chunk of them that are inaudible you know what they're like who's who's into this oh almost all of them are inaudible like what what's going on there imagine if like that was it was like people heard Nas and like this guy's too smart we got to dumb it down a little right we got to promote some people that could barely talk yeah we got to promote some people that are on cough syrup apparently yeah that's have you ever done that cough cough syrup no they seem to love it yeah a lot of dudes are into that That cough syrup man.They they swear by it.

It's crazy.It's got to be fun.It's got to be enjoyable Is it coding?Is that what they're doing?I think so.

Have you done it Jamie, but we talked about this before but I remember Back in the 90s.I got a hold of some NyQuil the real NyQuil like I guess they changed the formula for NyQuil and And I had, you know, whatever, the flu or something.And I took some NyQuil and I was laying in bed and I was like, this is wonderful.It was wonderful.Like, just the warmth, the softness of the pillows and the warmth of the bed with the covers over me, I'm like, oh, this is so cool.And I remember thinking, ooh, this is dangerous.

Like, this is a dangerous feeling.Because if your life was shit and you found that, like, that's better than anything else that's happening in your life.And you can get it at CVS.Crazy.What was in the old NyQuil before they switched it?

I avoid that stuff like the plague.

I'm afraid of medicine So this stuff probably was like sitting in my house if I took it so it might even been older than 97 or 98 whenever this was it all sick, but I'll never forget it cuz I never get like getting scared Like, I could love this.Like, I could just drink this during the day and just, like, sit on my back porch if I have the day off.Yeah.

Just get obliterated with NyQuil and just enjoy the universe.I told you about that time I took a half of the pain pill that the dentist gave me for my wisdom tooth.I was like, oh, fuck, this is life changing.

It says the earliest NyQuil formula include ephedrine, which is a decongestant, doxyam, dox, doxylamine, susanate, which is an antihistamine, acetaminophen, dextromethorphan, cough suppressant, and about 25 % alcohol.Oh, I was getting drunk, too.Wow.What changed in the mid -2000s after the combat methamphetamine, there it is, they removed pseudoephedrine.So was that the stuff?So it wasn't coding.

But is there, I think there is NyQuil with coding though, right?What I had was pretty good.I don't think it was as simple.Yeah, you had the stuff they could make meth out of or whatever.Yeah, okay.We'll put it in perplexity and perplexity says in the mid to that year NyQuil brand sold in the US do not contain codeine and there's never been a standard Vicks NyQuil with codeine and it's active ingredient lineup typical NyQuil form so codeine So does any cough syrup have codeine in it?

They add it Or is it just prescription cough syrup?Maybe I am fucking up.my memory and maybe it wasn't NyQuil because whatever it was it seemed like I fucked up off NyQuil be it to drink like the whole bottle you get NyQuil I definitely didn't drink the whole bottle.I know I took a dose Like a strong dose.

Yeah, that means you're just getting fucked up off 25 % alcohol and a little bit of a...Maybe.A little bit of a side mess.

See, the thing is, it's so long ago, I can't remember.I say NyQuil because it's like saying Q -tips.Yeah.You know, or Kleenex, just because it's tissues or ear swabs.I don't know if it was NyQuil, but it was cough syrup, whatever the fuck it was.And I felt wonderful.

And I remember thinking like this could be a real problem like that one day in because I'm always scared of stuff like that I'm always scared to get I knew too many people when I was growing up that got hooked on stuff Yeah, and it just derailed their life.So lying about like, oh, yeah, do this again.No more this right?I like it Yeah, I got a knee surgery once they gave me morphine.Maybe morphine in a drip.I And they say that you can only hit that button so many times it stops giving to you.

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Meet your match on ZipRecruiter.Because I've never had like a serious surgery or anything, but I go to this they have a dental office here in Austin called the Austin dental spa So their whole thing is like a luxurious Dental experience and they will hook you up to laughing gas And they let you like if they're like you they're like you want a little more, and I'm like okay Yeah, and that's like the closest I get to it is once every six months or so I go there and do Dude, I'm always excited about this fucking experience.It is so awesome.

Do you ever come up with bits after doing laughing gas?Does it give you any ideas?

No, but during the thing, it makes me weirdly honest.You ever seen in Kill Bill when he shoots her in the knee with the honest gun?Cause he was a chemist for like a living.It's like his secret job.So he comes up with this truth serum and I've noticed that it makes me like weirdly very honest.So one time when I was in the dental office, the guy's doing whatever.

And I'm like and I'm jacked on laughing gas because it's not really you're not really like cracking up You're just like in heaven, and you're like it's kind of smiling ear -to -ear And I remember going like how long did you go to school for?Dental school, and he's like whatever the answer is like eight years, and I'm like did you ever think about?Going longer and becoming a real doctor And I realized like kind of in the moment even though I was fucked up like that's that sounds mean But I think they're totally used to it.I think they know that laughing gas makes people fuck.

I bet they're not used to that dude That's what I'm saying is it's like a dangerously real doctor a dangerous truth serum some people want to be dentists Yeah, we need him too.

Yeah, you know crazy gig.

Yeah, that's a weird one.I know he mightsure it's bad breath They smell oh and just weird things lodged in teeth for God only knows how long when I got my root canal one of the reason why I had to get it is because I had a cap on my tooth or a Filler whatever it is.What's it called?No, the when they just fill your tooth up.

Why can't I remember filling fillings?

Why did I say filler whatever?Yeah It was old -school one, you know, it was like white plastic and when I was a kid I used to have them they were like fucking lead They used to give you a lead fillings, which is crazy like kids had lead in their mouth And it was hurting it was bothering me.So what had happened was I I had cracked the tooth and it had gotten infected underneath the filling.So he takes the filling out and drills into it and the smell that came out of my mouth, it was puss.All this puss came out and this fucking horrific smell.I was like, oh my God, is that coming out of my mouth?

Yeah.He's like, oh, that's normal.It's decay.There's an infection under here.We're going to treat it.You're going to be fine.

Yeah.

Piece of elk from seven years ago.

That was a long time ago.This is a long time ago.It was before I was hunting, I think.But it was, you know, people die from that stuff, which is really crazy.Like, if you don't take care of your teeth and you get that kind of infection, those kind of infections can become septic.

Yeah.Well, it's nuts.Sometimes I'll do a thing where I'll water floss after I brush my teeth just to see Would have been left in there if I just did what normal humans do because I was a bunch of shit high -pressure water flossers that I fucking loved complete game -changer for life, and it's insane What will jet out of there with gets stuck deep in between the teeth and everything and you know?I think you're I would for the most part I do it before I brush, but every once in a while.I'll be likeI wonder if there's anything left in there, you know?

Yeah, you have to floss.You're gonna get a bunch of shit stuck in there.But and even then sometimes I'll regular floss and then brush my teeth and just out of curiosity go I wonder if there's anything left in there and I'll do a one silver with the water flosser and you see like ding ding ding three little things come out and it's like that would have marinated In between my teeth or in the back of my gum line or whatever.

Yeah, that's not good But according to my dentist, he thinks it's all sugar He thinks if you go back and you look at like when people started developing serious cavities, it's people have always had Abscesses and broken teeth and there's always been like dental problems that haunted people because back in the day man They just pull the tooth out and then who knows what kind of infection you still have in there And they don't treat it in the 1700s if you broke your tooth and got an infection you could be fucking dead you know you could die from that shit, but he was saying that the the amount of Cavities like steeply increased when people started putting sugar in everything and then kids started drinking sugary sodas and eating sugary candy and that stuff stuff gets stuck in your teeth, he's like, I think that's the cause of it.

Yeah.

And probably high fructose corn syrup's probably just as bad or if not worse than actual sugar.

That stuff's not good for your body, that's for sure.Your body doesn't like it.Someone explained to me what's the difference in the absorption of high fructose corn syrup versus natural cane sugar.I completely forget how they explained it, but they were basically saying that there's some issues with how the body breaks it down.When you drink a soda, just think about that.Where in nature do you get 20 grams of sugar just in liquid form?

And you just pump it down.

Glug, glug, glug, glug, glug, glug.Ah, refreshing.Crazy.My buddy that I went to school with just flew in from Hawaii, which is where he's lived for like 20 years.He's like a wilderness guy.Climbs trees and cuts down his own pineapples.

and coconuts and stuff all the time He's got a great life and um he uh he checked a bag this trip just a few days ago um and he brought it to the mothership because that's where we met up and he surprised me with this checked bag that was like that had the moldings built in and everything and had four coconuts and two white hawaiian pineapples i think they're called which like run like 65 dollars each or something in the u .ss like it's impossible to get And according to him, I don't know.He's a real hippy -dippy type.

Is that the dude that you brought to the mothership?

Yeah, Anthony.Your friend from high school?Yep.Which is crazy.Yeah, he's the man.He's just a real dude.

It's crazy when you know people for that long.

Yeah, yeah.And so this dude is just...

Living in Hawaii live the best life, and I mean holy shit these fucking pineapple He's like dude.You're going to love this pineapple pineapple pineapple.He just kept going on about it.I'm like alright, okay Sure enough.Holy fucking shit, man It's nature can deliver you a sugar dose because he was saying that white Hawaiian pineapples have higher sugar But much lower acidity than what we're used to so it makes a whole different and since obviously it's natural sugar in this and that it just makes a whole different Different type of fucking fruit.It's crazy.

Mmm.It sounds good wild how we have to go other places to get unbelievable shit Well, of course Hawaii.

Yeah, Hawaii really should be its own country.Yeah, I'd listen.I love Hawaii I'm glad they're protected by the United States people are cool as fuck.It should be its own country.It's five hours by plane Come on, man, white pineapples primarily known as sugarloaf or white jade pineapples Highly prized rare variety grown in Hawaii unlike standard yellow they feature creamy white flesh particularly Practically no acidity.Yeah, and a complex completely edible core.

It was great and fucking heat -cleansinga goddamn tree like a little fucking monkey boy Normal little white dude.How did he wind up in Hawaii?He's a real free spirit.He always was.I think he just went out there, visited, and stayed.

He's the kind of guy that just gets a one -way ticket places and figures it out as he goes.He's in Youngstown right now.That shows you how adventurous and crazy he is.He's like, I'm going to spend a week and a half there.I'm like, a week and a half in Youngstown?Why is he doing that?

Visit family and friends, he said.Wow.Is there a good hotel to stay at in Youngstown?No.And I even had to look this up recently because I'm like I'm not staying at the crazy hotel that I stayed at last time I was there So I'm like best hotel in Youngstown and the funniest thing is the actual closest option was in Pennsylvania Like 50 minutes away true.I mean there's one like double tree downtown, but it's in an area of absolute chaos Just death wish do you ever go back there and go I can't believe I grew up here always 100 % of the time I got a feeling for it immediately when I went to LA and I didn't hear police sirens anymore Like as often at least you know what I mean, that's not funny like LA with LA's crime.

That's what I always thought I'm like oh, this is gonna be crazy.I've heard these Tupac songs like this is gonna be nuts and it was USA so peaceful So peaceful in Youngstown at least when I was growing up there You could hear a police siren or an ambulance siren almost at any point of the day My buddy sent me a shirt recently to another one buddy That has the stats on it of us being the murder capital.I think it was 90 91 and 96 per capita Not the biggest population but per capita it was the biggestdangerous place you could be.When I was in those most developmental years, when a kid shouldn't be having his head next to the window.Yeah, there it is. I got that shirt.

Wow.Four -time defending champion, murder capital of America.Wow.Yep.In 01, 02, that puts me as a sophomore and junior in high school.And you - 95, 97, I'm 11, 12.

And you're being raised by your mom.

Yeah.On the north, on the craziest fucking area of the whole goddamn thing.The most dilapidated part of the north side of Youngstown.

Yeah.

I can't believe it.That's why, like, every part of my fucking story, I'm like, this is so goddamn weird.So weird.It is when you think about it, right?

When you really stop and think about it, it doesn't seem real.60 years ago, this Ohio city was named Crimetown, USA.Crimetown.

75 bombings.

Yep.Oh, this was the mob days.Yeah.So it used to be a mob -run town, right?

Totally.

They were called Bombtown?

Yeah, it was a Youngstown tune -up is a car bomb.

Look at this.75 bombings.Eleven killings in a decade, and no one seems to care.

They were so nuts in Youngstown that somebody tried to kill the actual prosecutor, the actual DA.

Isn't that normal?Don't they always try to do that?

Well, it's kind of the stupidest, craziest thing you could do because then the entire FBI comes down on you.It's a little short -sighted to go, ah, we're going to kill the main cop of this city and not think that anything's going to happen from that.Well, we beat the game.We beat the main cop.

Imagine trying to be an intelligent businessman and also a mob leader.Imagine like playing things out in advance, but also you're a mob leader.There was a lot of that going on.

I got to see quite a bit of it like there were let's put it this way mall developers in Youngstown and things like that and I got to see firsthand very young that they were communicating with politicians at lunchtime and stuff because I was working at this little Italian restaurant at the time right out of high school and And they were having these quiet meetups in a quiet, in the corner of a quiet Italian restaurant.And you would see these huge moguls, you know, I won't name any names, but big business people in Youngstown meeting with the local this and that and congressmen.I got to meet that congressman and that congressman because they're there meeting with these super duper rich people.And I'm like, I wonder what the correlation is there.

Bro, back then when there was no cell phones and you know, they had to bug people.They had to literally bug businesses to get information.Like, they were all doing something.You couldn't be involved in any big -time business if you weren't down with the Teamsters, if you weren't down with the Longshoremen.

You gotta work this out, Bobby!

We're businessmen!

That's how you did the business.Give a little money to their campaign.Not a little, but a bit.And then you can get your stuff passed and make life easier down the road.Dude, I had friends that had no -show jobs.Wow.

Yeah.I had a friend of mine that had a no -show job in New York at the Javits Center.You know the Javits Center?It's like a big convention center.He had a union no -show job.

Wow.

So he was a mob guy.

Yeah.

And they just gave him money.

He used to get a free check.I only saw that on the Sopranos.They had those no -show construction jobs.

They're sitting there with their portable fans.Yeah.No, that's real, dude.That is a real thing.Yeah, there's they get a certain amount of jobs like they would make agreementsA haven for organized crime related corruption was ingrained into the fabric of its society.

A 2000 publication, New Republic, listed a chief of police, the outgoing prosecutor, the sheriff, the county engineer, members of the local police force, a city law director, several defense attorneys, politicians, judges, and a former assistant U .S.attorney as controlled by the mob.So if they have that if they found that for sure imagine how many others there are Right, that's everybody that's everybody the prosecutor the sheriff the county engineer the police force City law director defense attorney imagine not being down with the mob like do you want to stay alive?Like do you want to work in this business, right?

And this is a city I think we looked it up the other day.Actually, I think it only has 25 ,000 white people So knowing that black people tend to not be in the Italian mob just going off of 25 ,000 and that's current I don't know what it was back in the day, but the point is it's like it's not a big city It's not I think 50 60 ,000 half or less white Yeah, there's little Tony watching pro wrestling.Oh, yeah pro wrestling and even then I was obsessed with Goodfellas and a Bronx tale and a godfather cuz it's like it's just what you're taught is Humanity like that's life.Yeah So getting out of that and going to LA and thinking it was gonna be all that's gonna be crazy gangs and stuff And it's just quiet granted.I started in Burbank, which is a fucking television studio essentially But when I moved to New Jersey and I didn't

have any money when I first moved to New York, I couldn't afford to live in New York City or I didn't even have an apartment.I stayed with my grandparents because my grandfather lived in New Jersey, in Newark.And he bought a house there in I think it was like the 1940s.And they did a thing called blockbusting.Do you know what blockbusting is?They would go door to door, and they would say, black people are moving to the neighborhood, you gotta sell now.

And everybody sold.It used to be an entirely Italian neighborhood.And he was like, I like black people, get the fuck out of here.And he kept his house, but it was like one of very few families that stayed.And then black people moved out, and then they started getting like different people, Spanish speaking people, like Dominicans and a bunch of other, and that's how it was when I moved out.stayed with him.

So this is like nine.

Ninety one.

Yeah.I was three years in the comedy.So it's probably ninety one.And while I was living with him the next door neighbor's house got broken into by the cops.The D .A.

smashed down his door.He had an Audi parked in the driveway.He was selling crack like right next door to my grandpa.The whole neighborhood was nuts dude.Like he would get really nervous when I would leave.Like I would leave to go play pool somewhere and he would be careful.

It was fucking sketchy.Yeah.But it didn't used to be like when he first moved there.It was just an all Italian neighborhood.Yep.Real estate people even back like what a dirty thing to do.

Scare people into moving.That's probably the first project of USAID.That's probably.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They probably got real estate people to destroy neighborhoods.There's something to it.I don't know the correlation of Italian neighborhoods being taken over.Not taken over but.whatever by black people like mob run cities like youngstown like chicago like detroit umIt's an interesting anomaly.

I wonder if there's any correlation between the things.

Well, you know, most of the Italians that came in the early 20th century were very poor.You know, they were all coming over here for labor or jobs and things along those lines.When they started doing better, they started moving out and moving into the suburbs and moving into more gentrified areas.It's always, what are the new immigrants that are going to come and take over this area that was formerly a low income Italian neighborhood or a low income Irish neighborhood?It's the same thing.There's cycles.

It's like there's cycles in fighting too.Like, in the early 20th century, there's a lot of Jewish fighters, like Slappy Maxie Rosenblum.You never heard of him, right?No.Some very good Jewish fighters, because they were poor.And they were the new immigrants, you know, and this is like before World War Two.

And then in, and even afterwards, there was some, but then You get Italians.You get a lot of Italians.You get Rocky Marciano, Rocky Graziano.There's a lot of like Jake LaMotta.There's a lot of these like Italian bad motherfuckers because they were poor.

Yeah.

And then what happened?Then you got a lot of Puerto Ricans, a lot of you know, it's always like who's the new immigrants.Right.And who are the most hungry come from the most poverty ridden areas like Roberto Duran came from a terrible part of Panama, like not terrible, but I mean, like very poor, very violent.Yeah.

And it was one of the baddest motherfuckers boom boom man seen he was right down the street.

Yep.Yeah, I mean Youngstown's known for boxing.Yeah, Kelly Pavlik Kelly Pavlik who's been on the podcast.He's awesome.Yeah, he was a beast, dude Oh, man that fight with him Jermaine Taylor.

Well, sometimes I still rewatch the end of itthat.

How did he survive?

Give me a burst of energy.

I mean, how did he make it through?That was a crazy cut.I mean, he'd got dropped.He looked like it looks like the fight was over.And then when he's got him in the corner and he rocks him and you go, no way he's coming back.This is crazy.

Did you watch the fights this weekend?Ron boots Ennis and I forget the dude who's fighting.No, I was at that concert.I missed it.Boots is very good, and for the most part, he beat his ass, but the third round, he got rocked.The third round was incredible.

The kid he was fighting, who's the gentleman that he was fighting, Jamie?

Zayas.

Zayas, yeah.young kid, he got dropped in the second round, like pretty bad.Boots is very good.He's like one of the best boxers alive.And then the third round, the kid came back and rocked Boots and it was just a war.Just the third round was incredible.

Boots wound up stopping him.I think he stopped him in like the seventh or the eighth round.He just dropped him one last time and the referee, the Corner called it it was enough like he was getting his ass kicked, but he was very very valiant You know it was a really good fight like boots is better than him like clearly He's like he's on another level, but this kid showed just tremendous heart But it's like that third round was just coming back from getting dropped in the second like those kind of Moments where guys getting fucked up like like the gate sheet to pour if I yeah perfect example Yeah, right, that's when it's really a fight of a real fight.Yeah, cuz to a Porya was On him in that second round.

Oh Man, we were so close.They were in there.I could hear it Oh, well, you could really you could feel it where I was man And you know, obviously we're always close to the cage on those things But then when gate when to Puria was landing those body shots It was right against our side of the fence and I'm literally like oh my godmean, holy fucking shit, man.And I've seen a lot of people get ripped to the body before, but there's something about his close range strength in near that clinch, that close up fucking range of Ilya that is scary.

He's so good, dude.He's so good.And he's so precise.He just tried to like, I always repeat this because Chael Sonnen said it was perfect.If you try to win by knockout and fail, you won't win a decision.And sometimes you just run out of gas because like, you're not supposed to fight like that if you think that the fight's going to go five rounds.

Like Ilya had him hurt and he's like, I can take him out.But Justin's so durable, man.He's so durable.That left hook to the body, the sound of it, man, it's just whip.It's so perfect.He throws perfect punches.

His punches are just...I mean, even Justin said it in the post -fight interview, like, when he's fresh, his skills are unmatched.Like, that's a crazy thing to say to a guy who just beat up and made stop.He stopped him in the fourth round.Yeah.

That's crazy to say like his skills are unmatched, but they really are oh Every point of that I'm at every point of that anybody I think that knows anything about those two fighters is going until this is stopped Anybody can win this like even when his face was blown up and his eyes looked black and closed until that Air horn rings.I'm like Anything one punch and we've seen it even with Gaethje you saw it with Holloway, right?Was it him who they square up with in the middle?Yes.Oh, yeah, it's like him with that final punch one chin one with one second left Yeah, it can all be over.

Yeah, that was a little different in that hallway caught him with a jump spinning back kick to the face in the veryseconds of the first round and broke the bone of his nose We talked about it on the podcast and I was like that changed that fight because before that Gaethje was pressing him and it looked very competitive and it looked like maybe Gaethje had a slight advantage, but that's cuz max Max is very clever.He's a very clever fighter.Like, he's always switching stances and moving, and, you know, really hadn't showed that spinning back kick a lot.That hadn't been a feature in a lot of his fights.He did it a few times, but for him to land it that way, backing up, jump to the face, I mean, it was...

It was perfect and his nose was fucked and if you're fighting with a broken like a broken bone on your face Every time you're getting hit you're getting just blasted.Yeah, you're the pain is insane And then you know he had you know, he was a step behind max max is teeing off on him He landed some good shots though, even though it was a good fight I mean max was definitely ahead in the fifth round, but it was a good fight and then you know during that wild exchange She should never done that Yeah, he was already fading whereas max was still very fresh fucking crazy fight man.

Yeah, that was a crazy fight I think topia's nose was broken in round two.

I think it was pretty early on And hard to say yeah, you know, but Justin did clip him with a bunch of those uppercuts So Justin does this thing where he like collar ties you and then throws an uppercut in tight and he's really good at it He's really good at like turning you a little and then throwing an uppercut in these exchanges.He collar ties and uppercuts He caught him a few times and you just get one of those on the fucking nose on the old schnozzle This thing's so brittle.

Yeah, it's such a if you feel your nose just feel it.

Have you ever seen Morav's nose?The x -ray of Merab's nose?No.You've never seen it?Uh -uh.I sent it to you, right Jamie?

Jamie will find it.

It's crazy.

Look at what it looks like.Oh, my God.Look at that.Oh, fuck.Bro, that thing is destroyed.I mean, it's destroyed.

He's getting zero air out of that.He's got the best cardio on planet Earth, and he's getting zero air out of his nose.But he won't get it fixed, because if he gets it fixed, he can't fight for like a year, and he just wants to keep on trucking.

That dude's a freak.

If I was his friend, I would say, dude, you got a lot of money.You're a world champion.Fix the nose.Let's fix it.Let's take a year off.Come back and fuck these motherfuckers up.

Because if that guy's got a fixed nose, he's got 10 % more cardio.Are you crazy?That guy with 10 % more cardio, that's an extra weapon.I would get it fixed.But the problem is if he gets it fixed and then like he fights a guy like Holloway and he gets jumping and spinning back kicked to the nose in the first round and it shattered his again, then he's kind of fucked.Because if they have to fix it again, then they might have to start taking pieces of your rib out and reconstructing your nose and grafting bone and doing weird shit.

And then sometimes that shit doesn't take, and sometimes it gets infected, and then you have a bone infection on your face.And what do they do then?Do they have to remove your nose?Is that what they have to do?Fuck.God.

Scary shit, man.Very much so.These fucking dudes, man, that is a crazy job to risk your life, risk your health, risk your bones.You're making a living by trying to damage another person who's trying to damage you.Nuts.But it's also why it's the most exciting shit in the world to watch.

Exactly.So exciting.Yeah.Even boxing as you know tamed in comparison to MMA because there's less weapons and less options and more padding.Yeah.You don't get the choke outs the crazy choke outs.

There was a crazy choke out this weekend His name is Rooza boy of and he fought I always say his last name you fought this Russian cat and got him Russian or Ukrainian I forget but he got him in a rear naked choke and put him to sleep and it was one of those ones where the guy looks dead.He's like lying there I mean, it was a fucking nasty choke, man.And yeah, oh, yeah, I saw that It was dark, dude.

It's another meme out this week, along with the WNBA girl pointing.That's his name.Bro, it was nuts.The memes on these things are nuts nowadays.Oh, the internet is undefeated.Oh, it's crazy.

They're so good at memes.There's so many people out there working jobs that they hate, that are smart and funny.

We were talking about it the other day, but have you caught up with any of those WNBA, what's her name, the girl that's pointing?Sophie Cunningham.Yeah.

Yeah.I've been paying it.Can you put that thing in the middle?I've been paying attention very little but one of the things that I did watch is all the fouls Like these bitches throw each other to the ground they and they poke each other in the eyes Like they do this.They literally jab each other in the eyes It's crazy like they they foul and also they travel so much.Oh, it's great They take like four or five steps and then no one calls them.

Oh, yeah Double durable is there a trend now to not call?

Traveling yes without a doubt in the actual NBA.It's a thing.

There's no I just hard to get into this without going way and to do like the weeds But the NBA has a technically different rule than college and like high school and everyone else where there's that they call it a gather step And they definitely would call it in high school But they work all day manipulating it with the referee watching them saying like you can do that, but you can't do thatYou can do this, but you can't do that And so like they've got it to a place where everything they're doing looks like traveling and dribble double dribbles But guys will break it down in slow -mo and you're like, well, technically it's not cuz weird I always thought if you took a step you had to bounce the ball.

Yeah, that's how it should be You're allowed to doesn't it seem like that should be how it is when you see guys taking four steps Like what's going on?

What do you want to see exciting basketball or not?Yeah I do.All right, well then let the referees call the game how they call it.

But I think there's something exciting about you having to bounce that ball, because you won't be able to score as much, right?

Correct if you have to bounce it every two steps, whatever it is I wish I loved the NBA like I did when I was a kid and fucking Barkley and Jordan and Ewing and all these people were Physical it is just a whole different game now.It's so back.Then was it?Traveling like Larry Bird days.Hell.

Yeah, unless Jordan talked to the ref and said yo, you're wrong Let me do what I want Jordan had the cheat code where he would leap from the fucking free throw line That is so, when I've watched videos of that, it doesn't even look real.He was such an amazing athlete.He was so good and so possessed by his desire to win.He would do things that you would just go, how does a person fly?Dude, imagine if he was like one of those jumpers, those long distance jumpers.He'd probably have an insane jump because he's going from the free throw line in the air.

That's crazy.

Everything he did was crazy.The way he did things, the way he practiced everything.

Yeah.And did he not make his college team?High school team?

No.

Wasn't there like one year?

When he was a freshman, he didn't make the varsity team.That's what I'm saying.Yeah.Most freshmen don't.

Perfect.May have changed basketball history.

forever most freshmen though.That doesn't make sense because they're not even developed yet Yeah, that's your plan.I know kids in Texas that keep their kids back a year.They want their kid to be bigger I want Billy to be the biggest freshman.I want to be a 15 year old freshman We're pushing for right before his 15th birthday like hey 15s a sophomore.I Billy's a fucking cheater.

Why are you sandbagging Billy?That doesn't bother me nearly as much in a sport like football, where I see what you're doing, like you're preparing a kid for a professional future, perhaps.Especially in Texas, they're very into it down here.But if it's in wrestling, it's like, hey, hey, there's fucking no money in this, and that kid's 16 and he's in the ninth grade.Yeah, it's nuts.How is the how old is the oldest that a kid can be and compete in high school sports Jamie?

Please put that into our sponsor perplexity.Let's find out.I wonder if it varies by sport Interesting do they all have a cap at 18 Or do they allow you to compete at 19?

Yeah, there's gonna be a but before I even hit enter I know it's gonna say something about like you're graduating class can't be out maybe more than like two years or something like that in case you got held back or you had an injury or something like that.

Boy, I remember from my days of being like 17 and 18 the difference between 17 and 19 was huge.

Oh, yeah.

It's a big difference.

Fuck yeah.

By the time you're 19, you're basically man strength.You know, 17 I was like a boy still.

Yeah.

You know, like, I was flimsy.17, I was like a flimsy kid.By the time I was 19, it's a different animal.You've got two more years of training and testosterone in you.If you're a wrestler, that's got to be a huge advantage.

Everything in wrestling is a huge advantage.Starting one year earlier is crazy.

Huge, huge advantage.

Oh, bro, that's so rude.Making 19 -year -olds wrestle against, like, possibly 15 -year -olds is crazy, right?So if you are, like, in a certain weight class that's not strong, like, I wasn't a good wrestler.I was a pretty good wrestler, but I started.I was on the varsity team at my high school.And, uh...

Like one year I didn't even cut weight or one one weight class.I didn't cut I was there was a guy that was below me at like 126 or 128 and he was better than me and so the next available weight class was 134 which is I that's what I normally weighed when I was 15, so I just wrestled at 134.

That's lovely.

Yeah, I could have been in there with a 19 year old fucking animal who weighs a buck 60 and dries himself out briefly to hit 134 and there was guys like that, man You would see them at like the States and you go what the fuck yeah, and they were going to camps so they were wrestling 365 days a year all year long.Oh, yeah, I just started.

I didn't know anything same I started as a freshman in high school and got fucked up.

I didn't even start as a freshman I started as a sophomore I started as a sophomore because some kid kicked my ass in the locker room So some kid grabbed me in a headlock and threw me to the ground and didn't punch me He could have punched me decided not to but I was so humiliated.I was like, oh my god I need to learn how to wrestle Then I also wrestled in the park like in the grass with my friend Steven and I thought I'd be able I was a good athlete I was doing karate.I was like, he can't take me down.He took me down instantly.I was like, oh no, this is terrible Yeah, it's a whole different beast It's also like how tired you get.I remember thinking, I used to think that I had worked out before that because I had, you know, taken karate classes and done some Taekwondo.

I thought I'd worked out.You don't even know what works.out is until you go through a wrestling practice.

Yes.

We're running stairs What what we're carrying guys around the wrestling room you pick up your partner your training partner You have the firemen carry them around the fucking room.

Oh Jesus Christ, then you doing push -ups and sit -ups to puke and then you doing live drills fuck non -stop, dude Animals, yeah, we would rotate uh you know there's all those different weight classes and just for shits and giggles you know one of the drills was you know escape from the next guy all right beep whistle blows escape you're on bottom you have to get out the next guy so sometimes i at a 103 weight class I would have Hugh Frost who was, I think, 235, 245, 250.Oh yeah, just for one drill.It's a fucking joke.It's a pancake.He was probably showing mercy at the time, obviously, but not really, because he doesn't want to let this little fucking shithead 103 out from under him, so he's putting enough pressure to keep everybody there.Not to mention the 165 freak of nature made of muscle, and the 185, you know, it was just a drill.

But, oof.Reality hits hard.

That's how you see the difference between 15 and 17 and all that and someone who actually really knows how to wrestle just wrestlers strength like I always tell people if you want to look at MMA like what is the most important skill the Foundation is wrestling the foundation if you wanted your kid to be a badass fighter.You're like my kid really loves fighting He thinks he wants to do it, but I want to prepare him right which I do you know teach him how to wrestle.Get that kid into a really good wrestling program.Because if you have advanced wrestling, you look at how it shuts down so many fighters.Like look at what Hamzat did to Drekka's duplicity.Hamzat, he just ragdolled him.

His wrestling is at such a high level.And Drekis, who was a world champion, couldn't do shit to stop it.He just dragged him to the ground any time he wanted to.Got him in a crucifix like three times.Murab against O'Malley.Exactly.

Exactly.

You were watching a guy that does a no -look right -hand knockout punch into a salute.No look at his opponent.Right?Get out of here.

I mean, it's just impossible.

It appears impossible in every Khabib fight.The thing I always think about first when I think about Khabib fighting is him being on top and having his feet under the other dude's feet, which is just, that's it.It's the final level when you can't even begin the process of posturing out in any way.You are nothing.You are a tissue in an octagon with a man.And he's wailing on your face.

He's wailing on your face and he has your legs triangled underneath his legs.It's always funny when UFC or when casual UFC fans don't understand those little things like that that aren't even part of the fight.They're looking up here waiting to see if the punches are going to rain down.Yeah, but the positioning of his feet is what I'm always looking at and how scary it can be here.He's not even doing it right now.But that leg being thrown is torture.

Nothing you can do.There's just nowhere to go.And all that weight on those hips, people don't realize.I notice immediately, if I ever see somebody that's kind of on top and their knees are on the ground, Like if you look his right knee isn't on the ground.

It looks like it might be but it keeps Slamming those left hands in a Johnson's head.I mean he got hit with like 15 20 unanswered full -force left -hand blows Bro, he's horrible.He was horrible.It's so good computerwas so good and he would do this to world -class fighters man And by the way, Johnson clipped him in that fight too.It was one of the few times in his career where he got clipped Yeah, man, that looked really frustrated.

What's that?Who's the one that looks super frustrated in that Barboza?

I'm just asking I don't remember who it was Barboza was one of them But I mean a lot of guys I thought could be look frustrated because there's not a damn thing they could do Barboza was like early in the first round here that thousand -yard stare was like fuck Like I have to go through three rounds of this where they just give up on the idea that they could even win Yeah, like all you're doing is trying to survive.

Yeah, he was a monster dude like that his leg being trapped in Is nuts.And look how he's scooting with it.

And he's just slamming punches.And then you get up, he's just chasing you.But if you get up, he's gonna fucking chase you and drag you to the ground again.So you blew all that energy to get up.The moment you try to punch or throw a kick, he's on you.You're on your back again.

Punch to the face, punch to the face.Wrestling's giant.It is the biggest skill.You have to know how to do everything else too, nowadays, because all these kids that, like you see in the Contender series, these young guys coming up, man, they're all so fucking talented.He tried to wheel kick them.

And really more than anything, I feel like being outwrestled and being just trapped on the ground is so psychologically demoralizing when you've been training for a UFC fight and the crowd is out there and the lights are on you and you see the logos on the mat because you're facing it.

When he throws the kick, here it is.So he throws the kick and misses.He's so tired now that when Khabib moves for him, he misses.Look, he instigated the clench.Instead of pushing away, instead of circling to his left, he clenched because he's so tired, dude.He's so tired.

And this dude just, look at that face.He just drags him down to the ground again.

Two -on -one on that arm underneath them.Legs being thrown in.He doesn't know what to do with his legs.He actually just put his foot above Khabib because it's so confusing.All that weight on you.You don't know where to even begin to start getting up.

Well, the first thing he's got to do is get that left leg free and he's not gonna.He was a monster.He was a monster.And retired undefeated.Yeah.

And there's something to being on that mat, not being able to move, knowing that the clock is ticking, and this is not how you picture this going.

Not only that, this is with the current rules, where I think there should be no stand -ups.I think the only time there should be a stand -up is when there's a foul.

Yeah, I completely agree with you.I hate it when they stand people up.

Even if it's boring.I get it's boring, but the guy can't get up, and this guy's holding him down, so he's winning.He's winning.See, I know he's not doing enough.What does that mean?He's biding his time.

You've got to let a guy have strategy.Like when Muhammad Ali did rope -a -dope against George Foreman.Imagine if the referee's like, you've got to punch back.If you don't punch back, no, he's got a strategy.Strategy is let George Foreman burn himself out and then eventually tee off on him.And that's what he did.

Yeah.It stinks that referees can let the crowd get in their head Well, it's the the organization wants action to the fans want action a lot of people disagree with me And I understand their point.I understand their point, especially if you're a casual Right, so what so what this is the sport and if that guy who's on top who'shis time and recovering then decides Okay, now's the time let me start dropping some bombs.Yeah, because I've recovered good Well, he held the position and he recovered his energy and now he's winning like let him fucking fight There shouldn't be stand -ups and I get it the referee gets that cheer from the crowd and You know, it feels rewarding.That said, sometimes when they stand fights up, I get excited.

Yeah.I go, yeah.

Hell yeah.

That striker has a chance.But my position is still the same.I don't think they should stand them up.I'm worse than that.I think they should start each round where they lost the last round.Oh, I love that.

Yeah.That's great.So every round, why do you get to stand up?Why do you get that advantage the striker gets of standing up when you didn't earn it?Right.Get back down there.

Yeah.Get back down there.Crucifix.

Imagine you have to start the round up.In a crucifix?

Yeah.That's how they end.Round ended.They look at the big screen, get a freeze frame of the position, referee sets you in the exact position, and says, ready, fight.

Yeah.

I love that.

Yeah, fuck off.

That's what the sport is supposed to be.And sometimes it's going to be boring.Yeah.But that's real, though.At least it's real.Because there's been a lot of fights where the guy got taken down in the first round Starts out the second round and blast the guy knocks him out, and it's like okay.

It's exciting to watch, but he didn't earn that position He just got that position because the other guy survived the first round and so it's like it's one fight It's not five fights right so I think it should be one continuous fight with a one -minute break in each round Yeah, that'd be like if the team losing automatically got the kickoff after halftime or something like that Yeah, and look Guaranteed if I was running the UFC it would probably go bankrupt.I'm not the right guy.

I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.I'd be a terrible promoter.

I'd be too honest about stuff, and I'd want to give back.fights that maybe they weren't the most exciting fighters But they were above the other person in the rankings I think the rankings should be the whole reason why you make fights Sammy Zane won the universal WWE Championship over this weekend at a big pay -per -view.

I have no idea who that is, but I'm happy for him shocked Cody Rhodes It was like a guaranteed win wonder what happened rolled him up real quick.Do you think maybe that was fixed well?It was very entertaining.Very entertaining.

I'm sure it was.I just don't understand how you go back and forth.Oh, it's the best.I know you love it.

Well, sometimes.That's what I said about this White House card, by the way, is like, there's nothing that could have happened that they could have written if it was written that would have made it more exciting.Right.It felt real the whole time and the fights that happened before made it feel like anything could happen in that main event like it just felt raw and real but also Storyline which then when UFC is at its best like that.It's like the WWE.That's what's interesting of course It's not as you know Exactly, but it is it was a special moment.

You know it was a very Regardless of how you feel politically, and I understand it, if you hate the Republicans and you hate the whole idea, I get it.But just as a person who loves the sport, it was a very unusual experience.Experience very unusual and just I think people have to just look at some things that way, you know Some people have a really hard time separating themselves politically because they're going.Oh, no that the White House puts on this thing There's all this bad press because of the war there's bad press because of this and that and they put on this thing at the White House And it's sort of like MAGA washes everythingYou know what I mean?Makes everybody like them again.

Gives them positive press.Which, undeniable.Undeniable, it gave them positive press.I mean, the amount of people that have seen it is nuts, you know?I think just on Paramount, it's something like 30 -something million now.And they were telling me that they thought it was probably 150 million people had watched it in some form, which was TikTok clips, Instagram, YouTube.

That is a nutty number, man.And I think Dana and Hunter, they were thinking it could get to like a billion people see it.Which is just nuts.

Yeah.

In some form, you know, highlight reels, clips.I mean, just the Geichi fight alone, just the highlight reels.How many people watch those on Instagram and TikTok?Totally.The awareness of the event of the moment was so huge.It was like nothing else.

Like it didn't feel like any other event.We'd ever I was nervous before it started.Yeah, I never get nervous for UFC I get excited, but I was like legitimately nervous I was like I was feeling like a little like this is crazy like we're on the White House lawn nuts The flyover is when it really hit.Yeah, well when they had all those jets together, and they're so close to each other Yeah, like imagine if one of those fucking clips into the wing and spirals right into the ellipse.

Yeah Yeah, crazy What a spectacle.

Yeah.They would have definitely canceled the fights because think they canceled the White House Correspondents Dinner because of that assassination attempt.

God damn it.Oh, you had a bunch of bangers on that.I heard.Yeah.So annoying.I was more excited for that than like anything.

How did they just cancel it?Why didn't they reschedule it?Maybe they're going to wait until the ballroom's finished because that's the argument for the ballroom that they could have it at a place like that where it's completely secured.Yeah.Kurt Matzkir thinks the whole thing's fake.

Another fake assassination attempt?

How'd that guy get in there?I think some people are just incompetent.There's incompetence.There's bad security.There's people that don't do their job.There's also people that you didn't expect to be a problem and were a problem and you're in a hotel.

Also the guy made it to the first level of the first scanning of security.It's not like he made it into the thing.But he did shoot somebody, right?

I think he shot one of the Secret Service agents in his bulletproof vest.Yeah, is that true Jamie?I think so see there were so many stories online It's so hard to know what was true and what was not but I think the guy was a teacher like a substitute teacher That's it's all nuts.It's like it man.

You didn't think this out and scheduled it for July 24th.

Oh The correspondence dinner.Yep.

Wow.It's on this one.You might want to polish up some of them bits.Yeah Some of them with some current events, where are they gonna have it?

If they have it at the same spot, that's not smart Is that the Pentagon They might wait they might wait to release that.

Oh, yeah, it's not saying Oh Waldorf, excuse me, Waldorf Astoria.

Oh, okay.

Well, I guarantee you they'll tighten that bitch up a little bit Oh, yeah, I know he was excited to do the jokes.

Oh, yeah.Yeah.

No, he was he was very pumped Yeah, they were bangers.I ran him because the thing happened.I happened to be performing at the Kennedy Center the other day the next weekend.So I ran the jokes and I realized that I hadAdam Ray as a special guest that was on before me.He brought me on stage.

So I go, you know what?Even I wrote jokes for the president of the United States to make fun of the press and everybody at the White House Correspondents Dinner.But I just realized Adam's here.Adam, you want to come out and read these in Trump's voice?And so he was seeing the jokes for the first time.And reading them, and we had so much fun.

I didn't know he does a Trump, which doesn't surprise me. I mean, his impressions are insane.

He can do anything.Yeah, he can do anybody.He didn't even, he was dabbling in a Biden.The week that I hit him up to do Trump Biden, which I think is a fucking God I think it's like 40 million or seven some Crazy amount and again just like the UFC God only knows after clips But it was a monumental comedy fucking moment having Shane is Trump right before the letter Adam is Biden right before the election right after their first debate where Biden was clearly fucking zonked and sleepy and just couldn't compete at all and so Hit up Adam via text.I'm like, do you have a Biden?He's like I cover it for five seconds and in my stand -up.

I'm like You free on Monday to fly to Austin and do Biden if I can get Shane is Trump and I remember him telling Shane I was like, I'm like, this is gonna be an interesting ask and But I, you know, I'm just like, hey, Adam's got a Biden and Shane's like, I have something to do on Monday.I'm canceling it.I'm doing Trump.He immediately saw the brilliance.It was just such a hot topic at the time.And my God, it was fucking crazy.

There's clips that I see of that episode and I never rewatch Kill Tonys or anything.I'll see clips sometimes and I literally go.My god, holy fucking shit.There's one part where Trump goes how many more?Retards are you gonna bring out here cuz I've been liketwo handicapped people on this show all right how many more retards you have come as i'm pulling a name out of the bucket in real time i go anything can happen mr president let's see if what the next guy's like and he comes out and he has like these weird deformed penguin arms and you see shane as trump and the crowd's dying because they see him first and you see shane as trump look and go One of his his react facial reactions to things are like his greatest secret fucking hilarious weapon and when he's Trump It's even amplified.

It's like in my opinion 10 or 20 percent funnier than even Shane is I mean I'm sure he'd admit to this and know it cuz Trump is just such an interesting Polarizing character and his take on him is so fucking funny.

It's psychotic his impression so good It's the greatest Trump impression of all time, because it's like the jokes are so good.Oh, by far.

He's so good.What's what's funny, Jim?

So back it up a little bit.

Another fun appearance by Drew Nickens.This is the best.

All right.Johnny, how many more retarded guys do you have back there?

Anything can happen.

This crowd is hungry for more retarded guys.Frankly, I don't think we've seen enough retarded guys.How about a retarded racist?Would you like to see him?

This next person could be one.I pulled it out of the bucket.It is the Kill Tony debut, I do believe, of Jacob Barr, everybody.Jacob Barr.Oh, my God.Holy shit.

Thank you.Well, well, well.Oh, my God.Careful what you wish for.

Okay, hold on.We're going to reset this, Jacob.

What's funny is Adam knows better than anybody that you're not supposed to say anything after the bucket full comes up.So me goingthe mic out of his hand and putting it down is even another layer of hilarious to all of us.It's like Biden's misbehaving.I don't know.Did you see Shane's face when he notices his hands?

And then He's our Jackie Gleason.Oh, yeah without a doubt is plus -plus, man.He's the great one He's our generation what people don't realize I mean obviously is that he is that funny all the fucking time all the time we're hanging out in the green room every bar every restaurant every green room every every stairway fucking anywhere everything he is Always compare it to Mike Tyson in his prime.He just hits harder and different doing the smallest little things Even if it's a face if somebody says something and he just like reacts to it.It's crazy.

It's also always fun Yeah, he's a fun guy like he wants to have fun like even when he's cracking jokes.It's fun Well, I know he was very reluctant to do the roast You know he's a little reluctant to even host that like I don't want to do those things yeah, you know, but Well, everything is, you know, everything could be something.

He crushed so hard.It caused a real ruckus.Him and I end capping that thing.You know what I mean?It was supposed to be a, you know, this roast of black excellence and me and Shane are just fucking having the time of our lives.He got to do - Who said it was a roast of black excellence?

You're just saying that because it was Kevin Hart?Well, yeah, that's, that's like, that was - It wasn't like explicitly stated or anything, right?Because imagine if you said we're gonna have a roast of white excellence right exactly no I know crazy.Oh, yeah, it's weird We can and can't say oh yeah, that's weird.

Oh, yeah, yeahYeah, it's a whole thing with that.

I mean you can't talk about this talk about that Well, it's just weird what we accept which like doesn't bother me at all But like Cain Velasquez when he fought in the UFC, he said Brown pride tattooed on his chest cool His family came over from Mexico.They literally walked here and Yeah, white pride not so popular right white pride on your chest.You know fucking Sean Strickland just decided to get white pride And he posted a picture on Instagram of him As a world champion with white pride on his chest next to Cain Velasquez as a world champion with brown pride on his chest And people would lose their fucking minds.Yes.And again, not saying that Sean would ever put white pride on his chest.

He would.No, he would.I follow him.He doesn't have any tattoos.I follow him on Twitter.He would.

Trust me.He's a wild boy.

Did you see when he showed up?

He did a temporary tattoo.

He showed up at the UFC even though he was banned?He showed up and they arrested him?Yeah.

Kicked him out.He's the world champion.

There's a UFC event at the White House at the time before Justin won He was the only American world champion and they're like you can't come.Yeah, because you talk too much shit about Israel He's a wild boy, but that's wild that your criticism about Israel is what keeps you from going to the White House as a world champion in a world title fights at the White House Yeah, like you think you want to celebrate the American male world champion.I think he said some other stuff too, though Yeah, some Epstein stuff there.Yeah Yeah, I think he's I told him when he retires from fighting he 100 % should do a podcast and he was like, I you know, I Seen these guys doing these strangeand like I go you don't have to do that You don't have to do it that way.He's like I couldn't do that.

Just sit there every day and talk to people fires I'd lose my fucking mind.I'm like right, but you don't have to do that.Just your opinions on things.So he's an awesome podcast guest You know, I'm like he could totally totally do that.Just talk about stuff and also he Sean, when he lets the whole shtick down and just gives you his opinions on things, very smart guy.He's not stupid at all.

And he would get better at it as he did it more.He easily could do a podcast.Yeah, he's entertaining as fuck.I just can't believe they kicked him out of the White House.They kicked him out of the ellipse, that area.I think there's a video of it.

See if you can find the video of it.Sorry guys like they got like fucking six six cops a bulletproof vest.

Yeah, I think there was like 85 ,000 people there, so it's funny that they're like that one champion It's just he wasn't supposed to be there.

He's banned.It was not invited or whatever But even if you're not invited shouldn't you be able to go to the fan area?If you're the world champion if you want to be that wild with no security And there's video of him from the first night from the night of the weigh -ins where they found out that he was there It's amazing because he was wearing a hoodie the entire time and someone told him he's got to take off the hoodie It's like I can't listen.It's gonna be a problem and as soon as he takes off the hoodie everybody And they just surrounded by bros Hilarious just getting a hug to death He asked some dude, some dude asked him to leg kick him.So Sean leg kicked some kid.Crazy.

We're a champion fucking kicking some kid.What is this world coming to?Is there audio?

This is crazy.I like that we have some entertaining American people.He's the most entertaining.That Josh Hokett.Hokett?Hokett.

Hokett.Yeah.My god.

He that was what was hilarious was people were so upset that he said Michelle Obama's man at the White House It's like that's what he's doing.He's doing that on purpose.He's literally wearing an American flag bandana He comes out to a Hulk Hogan song.He's wearing sunglasses Yeah, it's not appropriate.You're right.Yep, right, but he said the exact same thing when I interviewed him somewhere else Yeah He said, I'm pretty sure he said Michelle Obama's a man like last time I interviewed him.

That's what I heard.

It's not his first rodeo.That's how he ends his interviews.Hilarious.

He's trying to get people to talk about him.

Yep.

You know, it's the whole thing is so crazy.All of it would be nothing if he couldn't fight.

Exactly.That's where it's real exciting is the pre -fight stuff.I mean the post fight interview pretty polarizing obviously because that was the news But if you for the real fans paying attention, did you didn't get to see him do that?Did I send it to you the kill Tony minute that he did at the press conference?Oh my god, so funny cuz he's like purposefully bombing so he's literally doing a joke and He says you guys know Tony Hinchcliffe.I'm gonna do my kill Tony minute, and he's purposefully like bombing It's corny purposeful bad jokes, and he's going man tough crowd all right.

Let me let me try this one and it's like literally being hilarious by strategically trying to be funny, but not being funny you could tell that he was planning on nobody laughing andthat it's set up punch and He's just fucking truck.He's just trying to entertain.

He's trolling which is trolling He's getting attention and then the most important thing he can fight.Yeah, that dude's good.He's fucking good, man He's fast as shit for a heavyweight.He's very light on his feet fast shit fast hands Yeah, so fun to watch.And you know, what's interesting is he talked a lot of shit about Alex Pereira.And you know, I want to shama on your mama or all that crazy shit.

Pereira losing to Cyril Gaunt.If Pereira decides to fight again, I don't know if he's gonna fight again, he might be done.I think he said he might be done.But I mean a lot of fighters say that after a fight and especially after a loss Yeah, let him sit around for a while and then they come up with he's not done the back of the Brinks truck He had him versus Josh Hoke get him As a co -main event on a fucking banging New Year's Eve card.

Oh, let's go Hoke it'll be making fun of his headdress and his face.

Oh It'd be insane.It would be insane.But you know, the thing is Hoke.It's got to deal with that guy.That's a different guy That's not Derek Lewis I mean if he continues to fight heavyweight, it is interesting watching a guy who's been so dominant at 85 and at 205 With that all that extra weight on I don't know if that necessarily was the right move, you know I mean, I think like some weight is probably good, but maybe even 20 pounds lighter like maybe 230 something Maybe that would be a better weight if he wants to fight at heavyweight because it seems like he was carrying I mean just you ever work out with a weight vest on yeah, yeah It's crazy.Like a 25 pound weight vest.

It's nuts how much harder everything is.So you got to realize he had fought at 185 and he fought at 205.That was what he weighed in at.But let's be honest.honest at 185 I think he probably weighed 220 something 226.I think it was fight night, which is nuts It's 40 pounds difference and at 205.

He probably got into the 230s like 235 236 something like that But still was not didn't look like he looked at 251 251 he looked like he was carrying unnecessary weight Little bit of it at least and if he was just like 20 pounds lighter He would still have that speed and movement, but he's always had crazy knockout power It might be a better weight for it just seemed like it was a lot of weight yet on him You know and it all went to his ass his ass was giant fat ass big fat ass You know me you know that's all I'm looking at that's why I watch UFC and yeah, it was all there It's like a backpack.Well, that's where all the power comes from, you know when you're pushing off your feet and you know You're pushing off those fucking quads and pushing into those glutes and then torquing that body the way he does Ferocious power dude, but damn that serial guns good.

Whoo Yeah, whoo.

Yeah, so good dude, and he's in his prime right now serial gun is like really coming into his own and There's no heavyweight like him.No one moves like him.Yeah, I was gonna say extremely accurate for a heavyweight.Not just accurate, agile.Because we were talking about this the other day that basketball is a great place to start if you're a big athlete and you want to learn combat sports, especially striking.Because think about how many direction changes basketball players take, where they're always kind of doing that.

They're always spinning and moving.It's a series of plyometrics.It's a series of hops and jumps, like Jordan's jump.Imagine if Jordan had a flying knee.He's hit you with a flying knee from 14 feet away.What do you got?

What's that?It's interesting because oh serial guns.

Yeah, so he started out playing basketball.

That's where I come from basketball season and foot Wrestling season are at the same time.So I wonder what he was doing back then.

Well, he's in France, right?So France does not a wrestling in their high school or in their college, you know, and he learned wrestling after he had become a really elite world -class Muay Thai fighter, so he's got The grappling has come up in big ways like his grappling is much better than it used to be But really primarily he's a striker and when John fought him like John just got him to the ground and submitted him like quickly It's like the different I think in that fight was kind of a big -ass wake -up call and Francis beat him, too so Francis beat him by just Francis just got a hold of him and most of the fight was on the ground a giant chunk of it because Francis fought that fight with a blown -out ACL and Defended his world title with a blown out ACL had big -ass knee pads on I know wobbly ass knee, but that's how dangerous Francis is.Yeah, he could just win it with grappling It's it's a shame that he's not in the UFC.It's a real shame Yeah, cuz like that whole thing was what drove everyone crazy about boxing, you know That was really hard to get these guys together, you know And this was the whole idea why everybody was excited about what Riyadh season was doing, you know and Turkey Alasheikh and you know all those people that put together these big -ass fights like Tyson Fury and Aleksandr Usyk and the last one they just did Rico Verhoeven and Usyk like they're putting together these big crazy fights like that was the thing that drove everybody nuts about boxing and that's what drives everybody nuts about MMA the one thing is it's the heavyweight division the fact that the best heavyweight or at least the guy who was the lineal heavyweight championthe world, isn't even fighting for the UFC.That's crazy.

It's crazy.Yeah.Who knows?Maybe one day, right?Nope.

I don't think so.I tried to make it happen.Damn.I think we need to get those dudes together.

Look at that.Look at Sergeant Duncan.

That's crazy.

I know.See, that kind of ability to throw your body around like that is so huge as a striker.Because a lot of those guys are plotting.You know, they're plotters.They just kind of like wobble through.I think what they need to do is get Francis and the UFC together.

They all do mushrooms.Yeah.Just like make friends.Yeah.Because he doesn't have much time left.I think Francis is 38.

Is that how old he is?I think he's 38.Which is different as a heavyweight.Heavyweights.He turns 40 in September.Whoa.

Not much time left.Right.40 you can do, but unless you're Bernard Hopkins fighting at a world -class level in your 40s, kind of unheard of.I remember when Bernard Hopkins fought Kelly Pavlik, a lot of people did not think that he had a chance.

Oh yeah, I remember it very clearly.

And he outboxed the fuck out of Kelly Pavlik.

He looked so good.Truly the executioner.

I want to say he was in his 40s when that happened.I think so.How old was Bernard Hopkins when he fought Kelly Pavlik?He fought at a world -class level until he's 50 years old.

Yeah nuts.Yeah, no We were all watching that one everybody from Youngstown going.All right, this is that we're gonna get back on the right path because it was after his loss to Margarita, is that right?It's the guy that got caught with the cement in his gloves against the one guy mark Antonio Margarito.I do.

Yeah 43 Wow, he was 43 years old Wow Crazy.

Against a 26 -year -old.

Crazy.Especially at 170 pounds.nobody thinks at that weight that you you can be Competitive at a world -class level into your 40s most of time like people just write you off on the number Yeah, they don't care what you look like like he's not gonna be able to do it Was he the first one to be Kelly?Is that what I just saw Wow?

Okay, so he lost to him and that's where shit started to get fucked up because then he went on a A bad run after that.

Well, when you got beat up like that, it's just tough on the brain, dude.There's only so many of them fights that you could take where you get really beat up like that.Bernard put it on him.You know, there's been a bunch of fights where a fighter got beat up really badly and then they were never the same again.Meldrick Taylor versus Julio Cesar Chavez, that's a great example.Chavez just put it on him and dropped him in the final moments of the round, and then Richard Steele stopped it, and it was like this crazy fucking controversy.

Because he stopped the fight with like one second to go in a fight that Meldrick was ahead on the scorecards.But the real story of that fight was that the damage that Chavez had put on Meldrick, Meldrick was never the same again.

Actually won his next two fights and then had a bad staph infection problem.

Oh wow so after he beat Sergio so he was set to fight Paul Williams But to major staph infection and allergic reaction some antibiotics nearly killed him whoa He eventually was able to fight again against light middleweight champion Sergio Martinez Sergio Martinez Martinez beat he beat him he Martinez beat him But yeah, unanimous 12 -round decision.Sergio Martinez was a bad motherfucker, too.Yes, he was.Yeah.In late rounds, Martinez came up.Yeah, it's it's just a crazy sport man.

You only have so many wars in you It's only so many times you could do that and the really clever guys are the guys who just don't get hit much I went down a Maidana rabbit hole recently.

Oh my god, that fucking guy's a freak.Oh, he's an animal.What a career.He was an animal Unbelievable.

He fought everybody He was one of the few guys to really rock Floyd Mayweather.Yeah.Knocked his tooth out and wore his tooth around a chain.

Oh, yeah.

He got Floyd's tooth and wore it as a piece.See if you can find the tooth that Madonna had.Oh, my God.

That is so cool.

How hilarious is that?That's so funny.

He had his tooth put on a fucking necklace.

Wow.That's crazy.Boy, what a square -jawed motherfucker that guy is, huh?Yeah.Look at that jaw.That guy looks like he could hit him with a baseball bat.

He was a tough dude.Insane career.I think he fought everybody.The Broner fight, too.He dropped Broner.That was when Broner was in his prime.

Yeah.He was a beast.It's a hard -ass fucking sport.Any combat sport.That is a hard way to make a living.

Profitable.

Do you see all this stuff that's going on with Floyd?

Yeah, I I can't wrap my head around it.I don't understand how someone makes that much money and doesn't pay taxes or whatever Yeah, well, I could tell you how you run out of money.

Yeah, you know you you spend so much money on things You don't do you think he has a business manager?

Maybe wasn't looking out for his best interest.I mean just you gotta put somebody in charge of that amount of money you would think You would think $750 million would last you a while.Yeah.I mean, it's not even 50.You give one guy 5%.

How old is Floyd now?

Yeah, put some away.

But the thing is, it's like that lifestyle, his lifestyle was all about showing you his wealth.His lifestyle, he's 49.Imagine making $750 million and you're 49, you're broke.Oh God.That's crazy.But Tyson talks openly about how he spent hundreds of millions of dollars, just went through it.

You know, if you're living that life where you're just wearing diamonds everywhere and you're buying crazy watches and, you know, Floyd does these things.You're seeing when he'll go into a hotel room when he's traveling and he talks about like the watches that he brought.And so he opens up suitcases with millions of dollars in watches.Just open suitcase.You ever seen these?Find them because they're kind of hilarious.

He's just trying to figure out which one he wants to wear.

He brings them all with him.Yeah, she's showing off and he's showing off that he's got two suitcases filled with diamond encrusted Patek Philippe's and you know, the most high end of watches.Look at this.See if you do you have the clip?Here it is.Let's put some volume on this.

Look at this.

In my fucking business, worried about what I'm doing, what Floyd is doing, what Floyd ain't doing, what I do got, what I don't got.Just know, I'm gonna stay in my lane, I ain't gonna fuck with nobody, and I don't want nobody fucking with me.If I go on vacation, my fault.When I go on paycation, for 30 days, I take 30 watches with me.

Look at this, dude.

But you know what?You know what?What's crazy is this.If we add 10 more days, I take 10 more watches.But then I say, fuck it.If I want to bring out the one and only, then I bring out the watch that costs 18 million.

Oh, Jesus.

Matter of fact, you know what I'm gonna do?For you motherfucking haters today, I'm gonna go fuck on $50 ,000 because I ain't got shit else to do.Money made.All motherfucking day.

You know what's crazy?So, that's the problem.So, that you can only do for so long.Yeah.So, if you have one $18 million watch, like, okay, let's not get crazy.

Let's not get crazy.You wanted to get it, you got it.

You have $750 million.You have one $18 million watch.You can't have... 18 watches that cost millions of dollars like because you're gonna need more you're gonna keep wanting to buy more You're gonna keep you're gonna run out of money.How many Rolls Royces do you have?Okay, each one of those is a half a million dollars.You have four or five of them I mean Ferraris you got ten Ferraris.

Okay, what?Some of those Ferraris are almost a million dollars.You have ten almost a million dollar cars Okay, so just in watches and cars alone.We're looking at 50 60 million Okay, and then you have to make 120 plus to actually have 60.I don't know if he's leasing them.I don't know how he's financing things.

I don't know.

But I love to know the reality that money back by he can make the money that he needs back by literally making a super documentary about how he spent it.You ever seen that 30 for 30 broke about how the NFL players all spent their money?No.Well, it's unbelievable.One of the easiest watches ever.And like it, it's by gotta be 30 for 30s like biggest production ever like it's everywhere it's it's just huge and yeah who the hell doesn't want to know about that right and I'm waiting on that Nicolas Cage doc that I probably nobody's making either where it's like because he's a different version of that you know about this oh yeah but even then he made it back again

Well, yeah, he works his ass off.So he went on a, he's on a tear.He's just making movies left and right.And, uh, yeah.

He faced severe financial struggles in the late 2000s going from 150 million dollar fortune to being six million in debt Whoa, he never officially filed for bankruptcy, but he cleared his debts by relentlessly taking on movie roles Including direct -to -video films and selling off extensive real estate and assets I guess he bought like a lot of t -rex skulls like he spent his money on like crazy things He didn't just go watches and cars He would find crazy pieces of art and like old Historical things I think well, he was a movie star from way back.You got to realize like what was his first film?I think his first film was like 1980 or something.Yeah, I remember him being a movie star when I was in high school Yeah, that's a lot of time of being in that Pizarro Hollywood bubble getting your brain cooked by fame.

Yeah, he's one of those you can watch him do any things like one of those freaks, where even though people will say, I don't like this Nicolas Cage thing, I don't like that.

From an article about what he spent his money on.

$455 ,000 for two snakes.Okay, so it was $276 ,000 in 2005, the equivalent of $455 ,000 today.Thanks, inflation.How crazy is that?Think about that.$275 ,000 in 2005 is $455 ,000 today.

How fun is inflation?What was Nicolas Cage's first movie?

Just that crazy movie with him and...That was a big one.

That was a big one.These new ones are good, too.These wacky ones.Filmography, if you go all the way back.1982, Fast Times at Ridgemont High.

It was Nicholas Coppola.

Valley Girl is what I was thinking of.That was in 83.Yeah.Credit is Nicholas Coppola.That's before he changed his name because he didn't want to be connected to, what is his uncle?Francis Ford Coppola?

Is that what it is?Yeah.Valley Girl, so Valley Girl was 83, so I was in high school, dude.

And Raising Arizona, Peggy Sue Got Married, those are big, too.

Big!Those were huge movies, dude.Raising Arizona's so fucking funny.I saw that, like, a year ago.I forgot how funny it was.Remember Tex Cobb was in there?

The boxer with the flat nose who fought Larry Holmes?He did a bunch of movies.The big white guy?

Yeah, big fucking corn -fed white guy.

With the motorcycle?Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

He's great.

It's a Coen Brothers movie, right?Raising Arizona is.Those guys might be the goats.They might be the goats of comedy.They're the Farrelly brothers.Yeah, no doubt.

Yeah.How many amazing, hilarious fucking movies and the Coen brothers was there were always so out there.Everything's so out there.Some of their films are just like, what the fuck are you guys doing?It's like King was Kingpin Farrelly brothers.Yes.

Those guys too.Without a doubt.Fuck.That was good.Unbelievable.Fuck.

That's a funny movie.So fucking great.So funny.The scene where he's throwing up in the toilet when she's talking about him eating her pussy.

Woody's range is incredible.

You know what I heard about that movie that they had primed all the actors to get really excited when Bill Murray throws three strikes because he had to throw three strikes in a row and so they said this might take a while so we're gonna really need your enthusiasm and then Bill Murray actually throwsthree strikes in a row first attempt and everybody went crazy Like for real because they were you know, like they were said this is not gonna happen this way So when he actually did it everybody went fucking bananas nuts.

I love it, dude Woody's a freak bro since he's moved here and goes to kill Tony and like we hang out and stuff only after like Being making friends with him like I knew he like did a lot of great stuff But he sneaks up in so many great things.It's insane.He's in fucking What is the Cone Brothers one with not there will be blood it was made at the same time with Javier Bardem Oh my god.How am I blanking on this?It's a no country for old men That's right.He's in it and he's not even they don't even like promote him on that or anything He just comes in the movie halfway through with all these other fucking greats and is crushing It's hard to think that that's the Coen brothers movie the people versus Larry Flint.

He's a freak of nature fucking Well that thing that you sent me the other day or him when he's playing LBJ.

Oh my god.It's so good.

Oh Randomly stumbled across that one.I'm like I'll fall asleep to this Woody is LBJ And it's one of those movies that fucking kept me awake Because it was so goddamn good mesmerizing super nice guy to like easy to hang out with oh my god the best very chill with everybody just Hangs out when he's in the green room.

It's just like one of us.Yeah normal.Yep You know, it's just hard to do.And you've been famous that long.Just be cool.But also he doesn't have a phone.

You get a hold of him, you got to go through his wife to get a hold of him.He's smart.Just insulates himself from all the nonsense.Brilliant.That's the way to do it.But I think when you get to like that level, you kind of have to or you'll go crazy.

Yeah.you know Yeah, he has this fun.He likes laughing sipping his tequila smoking his weed He's got it all figured out grows his own weed makes his own tequila Eats live food or whatever and just laughs and enjoys life.

It's perfect Yeah, it's nice to know that people can make it through that crazy maze and you know You could either go nuts and buy tyrannosaurus rex skulls Or you could just completely disconnect from it all and just be yourself.Just keep killing it.I know him and McConaughey have a TV show that's coming out where they play brothers, right?

Yeah.I think it's on Apple TV coming out soon.Yeah.

So what's it been like, the weirdness, the post -roast weirdness?

I'm always surprised by these things.I'm always surprised that they last so long that anybody's talking about it.It's so bizarre.I was surprised with the Pangdang thing.I was surprised at the Trump thing.And this one is really surprising, because with other ones, they're like, ah, there's a time and a place for jokes like that, or this or that or whatever.

And this is the time in the place for it is like the roast of Kevin Hart, you know, I'm gonna go for it Yeah, and we roasted Kevin, you know, I did a fucking George Floyd joke in the At the Tom Brady roast and I did a who's the white guy that shot people it's the same fan base as God damn it the kid that shot people up in wherever The white guyI have no idea who you're talking about.David Lucas's friends with him brought him to the club.

Oh Kyle Rittenhouse.

That's it, that's it.I did a Kyle Rittenhouse joke, I did this, and then this one, people are offended or something, I don't know.And yeah, if you just watch that clip on my dismount, it's a crazy clip.But if you watch the entire flow of the roast set, it's just one last departing joke, which, that's my thing, man.It's like, I knew Earthquake would be standing up on his feet like he was halfway through my set, you know?There's standing O's that are happening during my actual roast, and on this one...

Because there were so many people on it, it was such a long big roast, you know, they set you to an allotted time.So I'm like, okay, I'm gonna do something I don't normally do and blast off more jokes per minute than I normally do instead of milking it and getting applause breaks and things like that.I'm just gonna create a bang bang bang bang bang final stand of things.You know, what's funny is that I have something that's supposed to offend everybody.Like, I don't want you to like 100 % of any of my jokes.I'm not that guy.

I'm heelish.I'm a bad guy wrestling fan.You're a pro wrestling heel.Exactly.So what's funny is people got offended about the George Floyd thing, and a lot of people said, yeah, well, Pete Davidson did a Charlie Kirk joke.And they're comparing these things from two different spectrums.

But what they didn't mention is that I did a Charlie Kirk joke in my set.So fuck them fuck them fuck them fuck them.You know what everybody gets them everybody gets it is always everybody gets some jokes Everybody does I said that Kevin hasQuite the fan base.He has more gunfire at his merch table than Charlie Kirk.Yeah, or whatever and so You know, for them to, for people to nitpick that joke and be offended.

And it's funny because it was a lot of, a lot of comedians, a lot of black comedians were like, I'm upset about this.You know, they made their videos, which is just hilarious because they're not on the roast.They're not in attendance at the roast.You saw Tiffany Haddish.That was the best one.Nobody handled it better than her.

Find Tiffany Haddish getting asked questions.Was it a TMZ thing?Yeah.about the roast because she handled it so perfectly.

They were trying to beat everybody.Of course they were.Even Cheryl Underwood who handled it all like a champ.We made friends before.Had a Netflix brunch that week that was for that festival.

Well, do I told you about Cheryl?

Yeah, she's the shit.

She's awesome Yeah, I've worked with Cheryl in like the early 2000s.I think it was in Montreal.I told you she's a monster Yeah, she got stitch her purse on just clutching her purse on stage and murdered.

Oh, yeah, she'd listen to Tiffany So good.Do you have like 30 seconds to chat really quick?Yeah.So talking about Kevin Hart roast, right?Yes, it was so much fun.So Lonnie Love didn't think so.

Lonnie Love was like, you know what?It's exhausting.It's edgy.Specifically about the George Floyd joke.What are you thinking?Is it just comedy?

Should they have been a little less I think it should have been shorter.The show was too long.I mean I was sitting there the whole time I had to pee something I didn't hear the George Floyd joke cuz I had to pee so bad I was a glorified seat filler and I was tired well also I mean Lonnie and other people like oh, maybe it was a little too raciallymotivated.What do you think as far as like the jokes?Is this just comedy or are people taking it too seriously?

Is this all comedians saying it that wasn't invited?

That's the fucking comedian Tiffany Haddish.

Bro, that was her version of the Sean O'Malley walk off.

I love it.I love it, man.Never forget those people that actually are answering honestly in real real comics and again, it's the same thing for 100 % she's not only is it a fun walk off home run, but she's also 100 % correct.There's Nobody that was there that was offended.There was no ruckus there It's just like everything else where you leave and you go, huh?This thing's this thing's kind of Crazily taking off it seems a lot of people are talking about that one joke at the end.

It's so weird We live in an outrage culture and an outrage There's a there's money in outrage.There's engagement in outrage outrage is the it's the commodity that everybody wants Yeah, they want to be outraged.Yeah, and they want to be right and if you're outraged and you've got a good point You just ride that fucking thing for as much juice as you can get out of it And then you move on to the next thing.Yep.What are you mad at now?

You know, there's never in any of these things.There's never a moment where I'm like, okay, this could cause a problem It was it's never been that way while the high it was high fives high fives and laughter after my 3 p .m.Set in a half -filled Madison Square Garden waiting for the 8 p .m.Arrival of Trump to speak.

Um, you know on a 34 person lineup Everyone was thrilled way to get the crowd going.I mean just getting the party started the lights were up like it obviously Wasn't the best position for me on that lineupbut the same exact thing and then it's like a little bit later you realize like oh they're making a news story about The Puerto Rico joke about things so interesting I would have never told you to do that joke during that But I told you that was gonna be a problem in your hand wasn't supposed to be in my original thing for that It was a last -second filler because they gave me more time than everybody.It was a very bizarre thing.They gave me more time Thing first of all the idea that you would go on after someone like who went on before you Stephen Miller No, not it was the national anthem with a guy painting a uh painting of things actually no he went on after me i went on right after the national anthem but someone had some kind of like rah -rah speech make america great again i wish i wish there was that all came like way after me which is crazy they just had me on the wrong position on the thing and uh You should only do stand -up.Oh where people are doing stand -up totally totally it doesn't work totally It's like but you got to say but then again it did it did work in -house The place isn't miked for I'm sure in a comedy or lit for stand -up or anything like it.

No they were laughing They were having a good old time.

Well.They're probably happy that something wasn't stiff and boring taxes and fucking right Yeah, I mean Rudy Giuliani went on like three hours after me.

That's crazy Yeah, it was a nuts all day.It was a super long thing my point being is that it always surprises me that I'm the news even though I'm because If someone else said it, if it was a politician that did it, or someone else, someone high up in the administration, that would make sense.Same thing with the roast.If it was a clean comedian, right?If Nate Bargatze or Jim Gaffigan were on it and they said that, that's crazy.Me saying it, that's normal.

They don't know that though see the thing is it's like you've achieved a level of fame that like really snuck up on people over the last couple years you know it's because the rise of kill Tony and Has been completely organic like there's been no promotion of kill tony that made it become what it is It's all just people sharing it on youtube sharing it online.That's all it is clips and these Moments, you know, and then you know, obviously the shane moments and all the kyle done again It's been just so many amazing moments.This is a good show It came organically and then you got to this point over the last couple years like oh we got to pay attention this fucking guy And then after they started attacking you from the White House thing, or the Madison Square Garden thing, rather, which was 2024, then it was on.Then it's on like Donkey Kong, right?So that's two years later.So now you're a guy that they go to, like, to get mad at.

And there's a bunch of people like that online, that that's their business.Their business is people are mad at them, they have hot takes, people are mad at them.So you've fallen into that category.So there's gonna be people that genuinely don't like what you did and don't like you and then there's gonna be people that are just using it as a commodity they're just using it as outrage which is part of what the game is you know this this is what they do and their engagement You know fucking game that they play and it's kind of what we do in the joke game Yeah, you know you get engagement you get people to laugh They you say outrageous things that you don't even really mean but this because it's a funny thing to say It's just like I always say Bob Marley didn't really shoot the sheriff.You know that right, right?It's like just jokes like when you say inappropriate shit on purpose and That is like everybody used to know that like Louis CK was a very left -wing progressive guy

he was saying really fucked up things that he didn't mean on purpose because they were funny. Yeah.Yeah.That was what he did.And everybody was fine with it.Until somewhere around, it seems like it was like 2016, 2000, like it started to turn a corner where it became like people are starting to take these things as statements rather than as comedy material.And they started trying to pretend that the person really means this.

Like, that's where it got crazy.And that happened around the time where social media really came into prominence.Because before that, there was no real avenue to do that.There's no real avenue to pretend you were really deeply upset.I mean, I'm sure there's some people that were upset, but there's also a lot of people that are just Ill they're online all the time on these social media apps just arguing and spitting out venom and yelling at people and they yell at them It's like they're in hell all day long and anytime something comes along they could be upset at they got it They have to have their take they have to have that hot take yeah, and if their hot take gets engagement They're all looking at their likes, and they just start re -engaging with that subject and going back on it, and this is the real problem Okay, good luck with that.That's bad for your head kid, right?

Exactly very bad for your head all those people that I know that are like Especially comics that are doing it the comics that are doing it almost all of them don't have good careers But no all of them right none of them have like impressive career especially compared to their contemporaries that are doing well And then on top of it.They're all mentally ill They're all people that are fucking filled up with pharmaceuticals, and they're going to therapy They're literally mentally ill and they're online talking about fascists right you know like stop Get your shit together.No one your opinion is not that valuable to people because they know that you're fucked up Do you not understand that like the way you view the world?

it's not a healthy balanced perspective Like you're viewing the world in this like mentally ill lens Well the whole online thing doesn't it doesn't even convert to sold tickets or a bigger thing It's such a temporary drug for them to get to fill this void of what they're not doing, right?

It doesn't convert to them people wanting to go see them.No I mean, some people, maybe they get like a little juice out of it, but it's not enough because you're also opening the door.If you do become popular, you have to understand that if you've been spitting hate at people for a decade and then you become popular, boy, that hate's coming your way.Oh, yeah.It's coming your way, you know, and I mean, this is one of the things that I said after the Mencia stuff.I said, even though I think it was the right thing to do, I wouldn't do it again.

Cause it's just too much.It's just too much.You just, you create all, you just feel the darkness of it all.The negative, it's all negative.It's all negative.Even though it had to be done because you've got this guy that with it, it showed me how completely absent of morals and ethics the business is completely absent.

They knew what he was doing and they did not care.They didn't care cause they were profiting from it.This is the conversation that I had with my agent when they were dumping me. I told them, I go, you're making a mistake right now that's going to affect the rest of your life.You have to understand the choice that you're making.You're choosing to align with someone who in any other industry, that person would be in jail.

Right.

And that person was, and also if this was in literature or if this was in music, they would be sued into high heaven.Like there's songs that like they don't even seem like they're that close to each other and people had to give like songwriting credits to it.Yeah.Oh yeah.Like songs like people get inspired by certain songs and then they write.a song that sounds awesome close enough that there's a rhythm to it, that people get upset?

Well, there's only so many notes and so many chords, and there's only so many beats and so much timing.And it's often the same thing with comedy.Like, there's some crossovers in a writer's room, which I've been in so many of.So many people writing on the same subject will have the same joke.It's only when it's like what Mencia was doing, word for word, long form, Well, that was a different thing.

What he's he was a buccaneer.That was a totally different thing.But there's songs like, okay, so I was listening to this video the other day, or watching this video the other day, rather, that was comparing Radiohead's creep to an older song.They had to give creep Radiohead rather had to give this older song writing credits for this which sounds so different and then Radiohead accused Lana Del Rey or someone from their organization accused Lana Del Rey of having a song that ripped off creep Or was sounded too much like creep, and it did sound a little like creep But it was very different like it should be obviously this is like inspired by it right if that's the like Elvis Presley's entire career was inspired by black musicians, like the way he danced and moved and the way he sang.So it's like, what are we doing?Like, they're stealing, and then there's inspired by.

Inspired by is what we were all doing.It's like we were talking about that computer earlier, that chip manufacturing thing.That thing was built on the back of all the fucking super wizard geniuses that have been working on all the different technology that led to that being.You can't just invent that in a vacuum.You have to invent that on all these other inventions that have taken place for decades before you.Right.

this is this it's like with music.It's interesting how Litigious they are maybe it's because they're run by a certain group of people told me but they're so good at like suing people Like bittersweet symphony you remember that song yeah totally they had a they had to give all their money to the stones Yeah, because it was what song let's ask perplexity while Tony is Or while Jamie Rather is I can't do that.

That's right.You can't oh we have to do get us do it.I know are you?If if I mean we learn this the hard way because I have an actual band That can play anything and everything and years ago.They could play anything and everything our old episodes hold and Because, you know, I'd literally be, to a, you know, a shy person, I'd be like, what do you, you know, you ever do karaoke?They're like, yes.

I'd go, what song do you sing?And then they go, dah, dah, dah, dah.And I literally, they would go right into it.And now you can't hum a song for a few seconds.

So Bittersweet Symphony was a sample from, The Verve developed Bittersweet Symphony from a sample from a 1965 version of Rolling Stone song, The Last Time.adding vocals, strings, guitar, and percussion.After a lawsuit by the Rolling Stones' former manager, Alan Klein, the Verve relinquished all royalties to the Rolling Stones members Mick Jagger and Keith Richards, who were also added to the songwriting credits.Wow.2019, ten years after Klein's death, Jagger, Richards, and Klein's son ceded the rights to the Verve songwriter Richard Ashcroft because he was probably broke.

There's similar things that have happened recently with I think Olivia Rodrigo and Paramore and then like Puff Daddy and yeah.

Can you please look up the other one that I set up though which was Radiohead creep Lana Del Rey andRadiohead, Creep had to give songwriting credits to another band.The Hollies.The Hollies, that's right.What was the original song?The Air That I Breathe.

It's interesting.Let's listen to them.See if you could find that there's a comparison video that I watched on YouTube.See if you could find that.Because it's interesting how they say the first one, and you're like, geez, I don't see it.We'll have to edit this out, ladies and gentlemen.

But you could find it yourself.Radiohead's creep versus Lana Del Rey's get free versus the Hollies, the air that I breathe.Yeah, that was a live version of it.But if you hear the recorded version of it, it's even more.You could see.But people get inspired by things.

I get it, though.

I get it in those cases, especially like the beginning of the Holly song and then the beginning of Radiohead like Dead on yeah, they're set in a mood like a very specific mood Have you ever seen how the guy from here's a crazy one the guy from the gorillas the song Clint Eastwood I think it is he had a like one of those like little kids kind of keyboards and He hit the demo button because like oftentimes it'll just have a regular song or whatever And it's the entire backbone of their biggest hit.You'd have to pull it up, I guess, to understand, but it's that...Yeah, there it is.So that's just on the thing.Wow.And somehow they got away with it.

Wow.And then all they do from there is just...

Yeah, that's the preset.It's the Rock 1 preset.

That's so crazy they used that they used a preset from one of them little machines like a toy and much like the fucking crazy jokes that end up getting me in trouble.I bet they don't even think that's gonna be the hit.You know what I mean?Like, they're probably not like, this is the song that's gonna fly off the shelves.

Yeah, but other people see it, Tony.I was the one who told you you're gonna get stabbed for the Puerto Rican joke.

There was that was so many years later.It's crazy.I was doing that joke during the pandemic to the point to where it got extended to where you were part of it.And what's funny is I left those tags of the longer joke out of the Trump rally one, which probably would have protected me.It probably would have saved it going, ah, it's going to get me stabbed.Whatever.

You know what I mean?Then you would have to do the Amy Schubert joke.Well, yeah, there was a lot to it.Yeah.Don't realize that that's a bit of a much much bigger chunk at the time well That's why it should be in a set.

Yeah, you know of comedy is a such a weird art form I mean look I love it to death, but real comedy should be seen in person.Oh, yeah, you know Stan Hope said this once like it was like everything We do on TV is just to try to get people to come see us in the clubs exactly like that's really what it is So you just really want people to go there live because that's the real fun Yeah, the real fun is all us a bunch of human beings fucking around And having a good time right as soon as you start taking it seriously and making it something that it's not like you're I Get why you're doing it because that has become a thing that people do today But I'm just saying like for your own mental health Just not it's not good for you to be engaging like I was saying about the Carl's thing like just engaging in conflict It's not good.It's not good for you bad for you.Yeah feels bad.It's not good and It's not, it's your, this is, there's negative energy and positive energy.You should spend as much of your time possible on things that make positive energy.

I know that sounds hippie.because I'm a little bit of hippy.I've got a lot of hippy in me.But that's what I believe.I believe you should spend as much of your time having fun Making people laugh having a good time and less about dwelling on shit.Yeah That's why I try to stay off Twitter because when I get on I just start freaking out at all the different news stories that are just Abomination after abomination.

We're just so angry.It's just impossible now and you know it used to be Twitter was Twitter and this and that but really it's just the news and X is the news it is so hard to Absorb that it was fun And you know it's cool and all and my algorithm still shows me stuff that I love police chases gone wrong and and UFC highlights and all of this stuff, but all the stuff around that is just crazy I did a thing because I was staying at a hotel in in DC right after the state of the union or something anyway.I'm like okay.It's a hotel TV I never get to watch regular TV.I'm gonna be asleep in a few minutes anyway, so I threw on I ended up going by CNN I'm like let's see what these wackos are saying over here.Let's see how fake the news can possibly be because from what I understand, the most recent State of the Union was a solid State of the Union and very positive and long and entertaining.

Let's see what they say.Racism this he caused the deaths of black people here.He's the reason why we why America's failing It's the reason why we're the laughingstock of the country it made me so stressed out, and I'm like okay Well, let's see what Fox News is saying and it was crazy over there, and then you have what do they say?Well they had their counterpoint person on unlike CNNwhere they're just all in agreeance Yeah, yeah and going by six people Literally going.Yeah, he's the worst and let's not forget that he doesn't think trans people deserve this and this and like they're just going on and on about straight doom and Fox News had a counterpoint person that was stressing me out and you know, I swear to God I'm not kidding.

This is not a joke and I was flipping through the different channels, go by MSNBC, I'm like, oh my god, this is crazy.I put on Silence of the Lambs.To calm yourself down?I swear to god, I was asleep five minutes later.And I ended up, it just coincidentally was on the Buffalo Bill part, where like, he's got a girl in a well of pure darkness, and I'm like, ugh.Finally some peace on the cable television.

I never get to just watch normal TV So did Fox News have a positive spin on the State of the Union address?

I did not watch it I remember for some reason it was stressing me out whatever was going on because like they had they at least Fox has They'll argue still like the news used to be they'll have both sides on and kind of talk it out and And CNN has that poor guy, that poor one guy that just takes all the bullets for everybody.He's just going, you're lying.This is that stat doesn't exist.Scott Jennings.Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.That poor guy is probably he's probably has months to live.He takes so many bullets every day.He's a fucking war hero out there.

It's a.It's a very turbulent world when it comes to discourse.Everybody's mad at everybody else.It's really weird to watch.It's really weird to watch these shows on CNN now that are basically like bad podcasts that get interrupted every five minutes for a commercial.It's really what it's like.

I just don't remember it being that way where it's just so many panel opinion shows.I remember it was, it was like CNN used to have Bourdain's show on, you know, they would travel around the country and check out or travel around the world and check out food and it was interesting.He would, you know, give you his perspective on the cultures.all the problems and the things that these people were facing, their food and what the community was like.It was a fucking great show.They did a bunch of different shows that were different, you know?

And then somewhere along the line, man, they just went all outrage.And I don't think that's gonna get any different now.I mean, now it looks like Barry Weiss is gonna be running that as well.So she's running the CBS News and perhaps she's gonna be running CNN, the same company's gonna be running CNN.It's like, okay, good luck.Good luck, because people already don't want to listen.

They don't want to take it seriously.And that's why X has become the news.The reason why it's become the news is because they can't trust the news.Right.Totally.It's crazy.

Tim Dillon had these two New York Times reporters on his podcast.And I listened to him talking about it.I hadn't listened to them on the podcast, but I listened to him talking about it.And he was saying that they said there's no evidence that Jeffrey Epstein was intelligence.I was like, what?What?

There's no – watch one Mike Benz episode of my podcast where he breaks it down.It's almost impossible that he's not right.Like what the fuck are you like?No evidence?No, that's not true.There's just evidence that you're not considering.

So it's like if the New York Times and the people that we're always supposed to trust to be the objective purveyors of all that's going on in the world, if they're compromised, so they're not allowed to say things, or they have narratives that they're supposed to spin one way or another, or they're very cautious about being honest about their opinion, very, very shielded about their actual opinions.Either one of those is not good.if they actually believe that that's not good either Because that means you're not really paying attention Objectively like watch a Mike Ben's episode where he breaks down Epstein's connections.It's nuts the whole thing's nuts It's crazy that anybody could say that he was an intelligence.

Yeah, there's no doubt about it But they will do anything to push their own story They don't yeah, it's it's a propaganda network.

Yeah, and whatever that propaganda is I mean that propaganda will shift depending upon who's in control the realm of the reins rather The realm really is a realm realm of nonsense.Well, whoever's in control They're gonna be the ones that dictate how the narrative goes and it's always going to be whatever the sponsors are That's why you never hear anything about any of these Studies that they're showing about the vaccine safety signals that they found very early on how they hit it all this Fauci stuff They're they're not showing any of that the Tulsi Gabbard speech We talked about that where you know, she gave this speech explaining how he lied to Congress and Fauci Pressured these other scientists change their perspective on whether or not it was gain -of -function research.

Yeah, yeah The shit that we had a pretty big feeling about back in 2020.Yeah, you don't hear any of these people They're not covering it.

Yeah, and they can't because they can't really tell you the whole news They can only tell you the news they're approved to tell you that's not good.And that's how X comes about Yeah, that's how X becomes the place where everybody trusts, but then you go to X and it's just filled with horseshit There's so much lies.There's always video of something happening and they're saying this is going on right now and you're like And then someone says, no, this is a video from 2022.Right.This is in, you know, this part of the world is AI.This is China.

This is not Israel.This is you know, it's like there's so much horseshit and there's so many bots.Yeah.It's like you just dip your toe into the water and you just float.poisoned.You're like, I got to get out of here.

But then you feel irresponsible for not paying attention.

Exactly, you know I feel like so many people feel like they're doing the right thing watching the news and being informed and they hear That the news is fake, and they think that's just like a Trump talking point I've always said that Trump calling it fake news was like one of the worst things that could happen because then it Sounds like a Trump thing and the Trump enemies go haha fake news sure it's fake if he's saying it then it can't be fake Because we have to disagree with him meanwhile It's a fucking it's a goddamn production.I mean it is And they're right.

It's fake.Yeah, it's fake.There's a lot of the news.It's fake.It's not true All that I mean the fact that no one got in trouble for all that Russiagate stuff crazy Absolutely crazy and that they still listen That's the same people that were pushing that Russiagate shit or they're still giving opinions on TV, right?

It's nuts Yeah, there's no repercussions to be found.They get to say whatever they want.

It's crazy Well, the repercussion is no one takes them seriously.And that's real.They've suffered that.I mean, we've seen that in real time.And I think the pandemic was the big, that was the big wake up call for a lot of people, especially people that were forced to take the vaccine because they had jobs, or, you know, they had a fly, or they had family members.And then they got some horrible side effect.

And those people got what they call red pilled.You know, I know a lot of people that got red pilled from that.They just can't take it anymore.

It's crazy.And it's bubblish, you know what I mean?There's certain areas geographically in which that's the mentality and they stick to it.I mean, here in Austin, I'm known as, you know,a skinny little faggot.I went to LA and it turns out I'm a racist Nazi.

Like I'm like, They were doing jokes on me at that roast in which it's like, oh, what are you guys talking about?There's parts where I'm literally like, what the fuck?I've never even heard this about myself.I'm on a comedy show every week where people take shots at me and I've, none of this is a thing.

Well, it's made up and it's all, they also made up a bunch of stuff about like you going to Saudi Arabia, which is crazy, right?Crazy.They just made it up.

Yeah.Not only made it up, turned it down.Yeah, didn't go when offered vast sums of money that the bus boy bag boy Tony Would never imagine turning down and people don't even know that you turned it down because you haven't been public about it, right?I mentioned it I meant glazed over it on one for one moment on kill Tony once but yes The people's that turned down that money are you and Shane Gillis?Yeah, and meanwhile Netflix clipped that and and pinned it on their Instagram, that joke, and with the caption, long sip, because I'm sipping my water because the joke isn't on me, so the camera shouldn't be on me.Meanwhile, they're getting my reaction shot to, oh, you guys took that Saudi Arabian money and it makes it look like I'm offended or something or guilty of taking Saudi Arabian money.

But just a joke when you just lie about a fact and to make a joke is crazy because you're just lying.Like that's there's a difference between that and making a joke about something like you had to make something true and then criticize them for something So you got a lie about something and then criticize them about that lie that you just invented Yeah, which takes three seconds to find out it wasn't true exactly takes a really quick search like oh he didn't go right Okay on the contrary the the guys that Chelsea was complimenting

during that set basically Kevin Hart and Pete Davidson Did take the money right and went to Saudi Arabia?

Also, you don't think Chelsea Handler would have taken that money if they offered her to go to Saudi Arabia She went to dinner at Epstein's house exactly the fuck are we talking, but it's alright cuz Woody Allen was there Yeah, and apparently she gave him the what -have -you.She told him.That's what they said.She told him.She was very upset with him.Yeah, at the intelligence agent slash sexual predators house.

Guys were arrested for statutory rape.That's fine, though.Crazy.Just, yeah, don't be a white guy.It's just the whole thing is so stupid like if you want to make fun of someone for anything for you know You looking gay, or you like you're down with that, but there you when you invent a fact That's not true.You say it's not true, and then you criticize someone for that like that's stupid That's a stupid way to do comedy.

Yeah, you know and the way that it's it's Covered and everything.It's like what are you guys doing?

Well, if you didn't know and you people didn't know obviously because they laughed they thought you maybe you did go or maybe Shane did go they didn't know that you were the two people that did say no, you know, Jessica curse on when she got criticized so much she gave her money away and She gave the money away.What did she do with the money?Find out what she did.But I was like, oh man.Listen, those people that went to see Jessica Curzon, first of all, I heard she murdered over there.She's very funny.

She's a fucking dynamo.She's a killer on stage.Very entertaining, lovely lady.I love her to death.She's fun to talk to.She fucking murdered over there, I heard.

So a lesbian woman from New York went to Saudi Arabia.Donates Riyadh Comedy Festival fee to human rights campaign.Well, all that money's going to someone's payroll.Yeah, it's going to a daycare center in Minneapolis.Yeah, you feel better, but meanwhile it's paying for someone's salary that's probably not fixing homelessness or whatever the fuck it is. I mean, that's what they do.Tom Segura went and put a photo of a Ferrari and said, thanks, Saudi Arabia.

But everybody was very upset.But my perspective is the people that are in that audience, if you're upset at the people that are paying and organizing, OK, the people that are in that audience, though, that they're performing to, they don't get a chance to see American stand -up comedy.And they're getting a chance to see it live.And stand -up comedy, like music, like literature, changes people's minds.It changes all art, where you see someone, a different person than you, with a totally different perspective, that lives on another side of the world, that says something that you think is hilarious and you love.It changes, you know, life.

It changes people's perspectives.You win hearts and minds.I mean, that's real.Like you can change the world a little bit by getting people to say, hey, we kind of are.We all have a lot of shared interests.We just want to have fun.

We just want to be with our friends, be with our family and do what we want to do.Like everybody wants that, including those people in the audience, like those people in the audience in Saudi Arabia.We're just Saudi Arabian citizens.There's just a bunch of people that live there that came out to see comedy, like performing in front of them.I mean, What is wrong with that?It's wrong.

You're supposed to boycott it because the people that run it probably were involved with the killing of Jamal Khashoggi in some way?Or the people that finance it?Okay, maybe.I see how you didn't want to do it.And I see how Shane didn't want to do it.And I probably wouldn't want to do it either.

But I don't have any problem with people doing it.Because I think at the end of the day, you'relike I don't have any problem with Saudi Arabia putting on these boxing matches that I talked about I love that they put on these boxing matches and oddly enough That's not really criticized that much even by like heavy -duty left -wing MMA media, which is a real thing There's a lot of like shit shit libs that are MMA media Just because they're journalists and they just happen to be fans, but they have that like a hardcore left -wing perspective they Don't seem to have that much of a problem with it not like people had the problem with the comics over there We're guys like Louie and Bill Burr.They just get destroyed for that.Yeah, yeah, it's nuts But I think Segura had the right move just don't even pay attention fuck off.

I'm gonna perform wherever I want to perform You know yeah, no it makes sense totally I just can't go straight from a Trump rally to Saudi Arabia a little bit of a hop a skip and a jump I know.

It's also it's like, you know, is that what you want to do?I don't want to go there.It's too long.Right.I want to be on a plane for 16 hours to go anywhere.

Yeah.

Why?I hate it.I hate flying.Yeah.Fuck off.

It's terrible.

Come to Texas.Yeah.Yeah.

Exactly.

It's just we live in a very polarized society.And I think a large part of that is what we were talking about earlier with social media and mentally ill people just just screaming into the fucking void every day.I just would like to suggest to people, just try not to engage like that for a month and see how much better you feel.Yeah.Just try it.Talk and make friends.

And hopefully that's not how you've set up your life where you have to do that for a living.Hopefully you're not one of those people because there are people that are paid posters and they make a pretty good living just posting and getting engagement.Well, you know, I don't know what to tell you.You're trapped.Right.You know, if your whole thing is like shitting on people all day long, you're kind of trapped.

Yeah.it's no way No, there's no way It's like the amount of cortisol that must be pumping through your body all day where you're going over and and I see Like people that do that.I see how they get destroyed in the replies and I'm like, and I know they're reading that like good lord Yeah Like, I don't know how Gavin Newsom is still alive.Every time he posts something, the way he gets destroyed in those comments is, like, fucking insane.

Well, no one is happy.It's just the funniest thing, because he reminds me of, like, one of the last actual politicians.Like, he's a different, just, lying ignoring of facts type of human being because we're witnessing it maybe it's easy for someone in uh i don't know new hampshire to go ah that gavin newsom's the future But we lived in California and I've been to San Francisco recently and we've seen it like when you travel You know comedians aren't the end -all be -all and these wise whatever sages perhaps But we do travel a lot and you spend a weekend in a city and you're not just doing your shows You're having lunch somewhere.You're having coffee somewhere.You're dealing with the people at the hotel lot, whatever it may be There's different communications and vibes and energies And there's so many of these places, especially California.You know, San Diego is like a last stand.

Huntington Beach is an area around there.There's like these little pockets in which there's still some common sense and happiness.Enjoy Newport.These little pockets.But those major cities are fucked, man.Even the drive.

And you know, I go to L .A.basically maybe once a year now for a quick alwaysfun visit, always doing some arena and a couple nights at the store, which is different, unfortunately.But the drive from LAX to that area of West Hollywood slash Beverly Hills is gruesome.Everything is for lease.

Everything is empty.There's nothing new except for the crazy -looking, weird -ass Obama Museum Library, which is the craziest, weirdest eyesore humanly imaginable.Where's that?It's, like, on the way up there.I can't remember if it's, like, off of La Cienega or Fairfax.

That's not the new one, because the new one is in Chicago, isn't it?

Oh, it is?What's the fucking...They built something that looks just like that monstrosity.

No, the one in Chicago, people don't like it.I think it looks dope.It looks like...It looks like something from...Blade Runner.Yeah, I like it a lot of people don't like but it cost a lot of money cuz like eight hundred fifty million dollars So you can find out what that building looks like show me a photo of something that looks just like that Who did the Obamas What is the the one in Chicago a lot of people were criticizing and I saw it I go that thing looks dope I love it like that thing.

Where is it?Yeah, the one there where your cursor is click on that.Oh, that's a rendering I was not done.

I thought people were in it.What's it down there in the lower?

I thought people were already going to it.Um, I think that's it.That looks like a rendering to me.That looks fake as fuck.But that one down there, that one down there with the darkness in the corner.Yeah, right there.

Is that real?I think that's a real photo.I think it's done.I might be wrong, but see if you have Los Angeles, Chicago.Yeah, it's real.So it's up, but I think it looks cool.

It's different.People are saying it's ugly.It looks like, see if we can find photos of it.Go to images.Yeah, there we go.Like there.

Dude, I think that looks dope.Really?

Yeah.

That windowless.Look at how it has the writing on the top.What does it say?Go all the way up, please.unconstrained Convention by what it's written on two sides.

So oh Right.Oh goes all the way around it.Oh, that's fucking cool.I think that looks cool I mean, maybe I have no taste.I mean, we can't even find an angle of what they're trying to say Right.

I don't know what it's saying, but I think it's cool that they did that that they had words that go across like that I just think it looks sick But I like that kind of brutalist architecture.I think that's what they call it Yeah, I like that kind of cool cement with big glass like there's a lot of houses like that especially like in the Hollywood Hills that I love I looked at one of them back when I was starting to make that cheddar and I was like, maybe I should live in Hollywood and then I could just do the store right there, but I was like Probably not that safe.I looked at the house above the store that Mitzi was selling.

What was on Colfax?

Was that what it was?Was that those street?It was the cops.store, the comic house, where, like, Kinnison stayed there, and Pauly lived there for a while.But I had dogs, and I was like, this is not enough backyard.It's too small.

And also, it's like, it's too close to the machine.It's, like, right next to the Beast.Like, I don't know if I want to be, like, right next to the Beast.I think I'd rather be outside the Beast and go visit.Like, that, for me, for my head, But I looked at a couple of houses up there and one of them was this house that was like really out of my budget.Really.

I was just I shouldn't been looking at it.It's like 10 million bucks.And it had crazy like like concrete with massive windows.But it was right there on the street.Like, you're walking on the street, there's a sidewalk, you could lean over and touch the front door of the house.And I was like, this is kind of crazy to buy this house.

And the guy was like, don't worry, we have a state -of -the -art security system.So I go, yeah, you know what that is?I go, your cameras are gonna catch a guy with a ski mask robbing you.And two weeks after I said that, the guy who owned the house got shot in it.Whoa.Two weeks.

Got shot in the neck.Fuck.

Yeah.

Yeah.Yeah, so hey, that's these places man, but the Arctic that kind of architecture.I think it's dope I like like that crazy modern cement stuff But for a house like what you're gonna live in the reality is you'd probably be like I'm sleeping in a museum This is too weird.Yeah, I'd rather just have a regular house.

Yeah windows are a necessity.

Yeah, I Just want to see stuff.I just want to be able to have a cup of coffee and see some trees You know, let me just sit down and fucking collect my thoughts for the day You know, I don't necessarily need to be in a fucking museum concrete ass big.It's there's something weird about it It's like you're too weird.If you live like that, you're weird man.You're living with agiant... 20 foot high glass wall in front of you that looks out at the Blade Runner scape that is Los Angeles from the hills.

Have you seen that view at night?Have you ever been up to a house?Oh, yeah.

Have you seen this house?

Oh, that's sick.I love that house.

It's known as like the Oakley founders house.I don't know if he still owns it, but.

Yeah, that's up there.

Yeah.

That house I love.See, if I was single and a baller, that's where I would live.210 million.A bargain.Fucking love that shit.I see shit like that.

I'm like oh my god.That's where I love it But I don't want to live there for real.Yeah, I think after a while.You'd be like I'd rather have a log house I just love those kind of houses that look like that like especially that one that circular one The way you pull into that driveway and the the entire back house is Faces the lights and you see the lights like it's hard to see from photos of how look how sick that looks man That's sick.I love that But the lights from that like if you're up in the hills you want to be above looking down, and it's like a movie It's like a sci -fi movie.

It's one of the coolest fucking views I've ever seen Pauly has the fucking as crazy as it sounds that motherfucker when he made it he bought a house That's on top top top top top of the Hollywood Hills.Yeah with that MTV money.Yeah, dude It's crazy.He remodeled it recently when I was there for the festival.He's like, dude, you gotta come see the house.Come see the house.

I'm like, Pauly, I'm so busy.That's very highly unlikely.Come see the house.Dude, you gotta come to the house.Sure enough, I went there one afternoon for a fucking coffee.Bro, it is crazy.

He was right.He's got the house.He did it.It's on top of everything.So,there's if a robber does try to go up there, they're robbing someone else's house.

They don't want to go to the tippy top of the fucking hill.That's a tough escape.

That's the problem with the escape.You want to be close to the bottom.Right.Right.Speaking of which, I've been watching.I went down a rabbit hole the other day on YouTube.

We're street racers.And there's this one guy.Who is like a famous street racer because there's all these videos of him.He got his His thing set up where he can shut the lights off.He's got this black Corvette.I'm gonna send this to Jamie Yeah, his name is really slow like RYL SLO and he's got videos of these cop encounters so they like baits cops and And then goes on these mad runs and you you watch it you go.

Holy shit.I love it Yes, this is the dude.Yeah, so Yeah, this is well He's like a legend online because he does interviews only with a voice changer where it takes his voice in the big selector Where he describes all the modifications that he did to his car But he puts a 3d camera on the back of his car and he you know They have those things where you stick it on the back of your car and he gives you a 3d view of the automobile and he has video of the cops like flashing their lights and His car has got a thousand plus horsepower So these poor cops and they're like 300 horsepower fucking crown Victoria.They try to chase this guy He just disappears and then once he gets out of the line like go back to that video where it was before watch this I mean, it's this is it's just edited.

It's not his videos.

It's just I understand but if you just I know this video but if you what what what he does is theystart pulling him over and In the beginning when they pull him over he hits the gas and then shuts his lights off Did you pass that's what here it is so so this is it so they hit the lights And he's like see ya are they gonna show it.Yes.This is not okay.It's not the compilation so when he does it he He hits the gas he gets fought here.It is he gets far enough away from them.

They're not showing it.He's motherfuckers They have to edit their own shit leaving it alone is better So he gets ahead of everybody and then just he has a button where it kills his headlights, and he's using night vision Yeah, it's nuts so is this it yeah Yes, this is it so this is this guy so his license plate says will run and Like, it's a fake license plate, the cops get up behind him, they hit the lights, and he goes, BYE!And the cops realize there's no way to catch this guy.It's not - look at that.Lights go out, and he's gone.And he's flashing lights on people to get them the fuck out of the way, and there's no way to catch him.

And then, he bangs U -turns, he knows where he's going, he plots it out.And the thing is, he's filming this, and uploading it.Yeah, so he's gotta hide his identity through how many different channels.How does Instagram not know who he is?How is he posting?I guess he's using a VPN He's probably using a proxy and he's probably going through some other country or something if he's smart if he's smart enough to avoid Detection, but he just has these fucking crazy car bills like he's got a Calvo Viper that has like I mean I don't know how many fucking Horsepower that thing has but they make some of these calvo vipers.

It's a company here in Texas.They make vipers that have 2 ,000 horsepower what?

What are you talking about anybody know where does he always do it in the same?I think he's in the Dallas area.

How fun.

Yeah, well not good if you kill somebody.But it's very spooky.

Yeah.

It's nuts, man, because this fucking dude really knows how to drive, too.And you see these poor cops, and one of them, the cops wipe out.They slam into another car.They're trying to pass by these cones, and the road cuts off, and the cop hits the cones, then loses control of his car and slams into another car.So, like, people can fucking die, especially If he runs a red light and he runs a lot of them and someone's being an idiot Maybe someone's doing exactly what he's doing while he's running the red light dude.

You have to see what kanye is doing right now It's a it's a historical moment in all of art.It's unbelievable.Yeah, you said that he's standing on the globe, right?Well, not only that He the entire everything is a super production and it's all him like you could tell he's made every decision and tweaked everything to the To the color of everything to when it happens to how it happens that it's not too much He's not overwhelming the senses with lasers and lights and all of this.It's all so strategic But most importantly, it's first of all, it's the fucking greatest production I've ever seen of anything and I come from Pink Floyd land where the live show has to be ahead of its time and state -of -the -art and everything for my mind to be blown and I was expecting this to be like every other rap concert that I've seen which is going to be fun and good and maybe Great, of course, it'll be great.But this was like a thousand times my expectations Because first of all, he's doing pop -up shows at stadiums, which is crazy He announces it a week or two in advance and the stadiums like okay.

We're sitting empty that night We'd love to sell beer and water and get a percentage of merch right how these venues work.They don't give a fuck and it isnot promoting it everyone else that's been to one or seen one is promoting it and then the mayor of whatever city or whatever leftist Person whether it be the governor of that state or whatever is like this shouldn't be happening So they're promoting it for him and it's filled to the top of the fucking Stadium where is even Pink Floyd or the Rolling Stones or whoever announces a tour all at once and goes hey buy tickets I'm on tour pretty please come right.He's just like San Antonio July 4th boom a week ago literally and what's crazy is that my buddy?got me tickets to go see him in Tampa because as all we knew is that he was going to Tampa and so there I there I was and I'm looking and it's filled to the top and the floor is filled and It's... he doesn't stop.He doesn't take a break.

There it is. I saw that on Instagram after his first one that he did.I think it was in LA.And I'm like, oh, that's crazy.I need to see this.That is nuts.That stage is nuts.

But these pictures and videos do not do any justice to what is happening sound -wise, energy -wise.Just that stage alone is fucking insane.It's crazy, and he enters at the he walks through the crowd because obviously it's in the round He comes out and you hear a pop from one side because they can kind of see him and then the globe turns on and you know he waits until it's dark, so he is he enters at one point and then inside is a Lift that only takes him so like there's no one that can storm that stage or anything because it's inflatable on the outside So it's an impossible, impossible to, you know, storm the stage or anything like that.And he's the only one that has access to it.lift obviously and he has a tether He's attached to so that he doesn't go off or anything.So doesn't fall into the balloon exactly and It is the most diabolical show I've ever seen in my entire life ever and that includes all the fucking everything's and again I come from the school of Pink Floyd, which is always 10 20 years ahead of its time production wise and This was fucking nuts because he does not stop.

He does not take a break.He doesn't go Thank you guys for coming out until the very end in which he goes.It's all about love.I love you guys Thanks for sticking with me all these years when all these people said this and then by that point two and a half hours Then when he's saying that you're just like you got to be fucking kidding me when we realize the bulk of his work How many bangers that guy has?It's nuts bangers, and I as an experiment took my one buddy who said that You know part of the group was my one friend who has always been like I don't know you fucking love Kanye I mean not really my thing, but he's not he's just not really a rap fan is the reality So I invited him on this trip and his mind was fucking now.He's a diehard Kanye fan now He's going back, and you know realizing that he's always been a Kanye fan It's such a crazy fucking thing because not only does he have hits on hits on hits But he does not stop in between songs because some of his beats kind of correlate or this and that He'll literally just keep going and going and going until his amazing on his new album.

He has this keyboardist with one of those like crazy blow -in -two -tube instrument things.I don't know what it's called.But he has a solo, a big one, on one of the songs, which gives Kanye a minute and a half to catch his breath, an hour and a halfa half into non -stop going.And also, on top of all that, you know, a rap concert's a rap concert, but Kanye's the greatest producer of all time in that industry.So every noise that's happening, even if he's not Talking or or singing or rapping into a microphone is all him and him only You know what?

I mean?Like he might get an idea or an inspiration as we've talked about or he's a master of sampling Old hit songs and having them be in the backbone of the thing and everything but this is it's just a whole nother level absolute insanity, like I thought I was gonna go there and be like, yeah, and maybe You know, move a little bit or sing along or whatever.And instead, my job was dropped the entire time.

Is there anybody that ever bounced back from being canceled like him?

And that's really the underlying thing.There's this feeling of loyalty that's there.And we're right.You know what I mean?There's a feeling that everybody there is like, they're correct.Yeah, I saw a breakdown of it because my algorithms feeding me Kanye stuff non -stop since I went to it because somehow fucking Instagram knows and whatever and I watched a breakdown of it talking about how like it's like this Psychiatrist or energy specialist or something that's talking about how and why this is the craziest concert ever done before and she breaks it down and goes people that like Kanye are believe in themselves because if Kanye saying I'm the greatest I'm the man I'm a god all of these things makes you not like him and you insecure you're insecure does that make sense like it's like he if that turns you off to somebody then you don't really like yourself

that much Why do you think that well again?

This was someone else's psychological breakdown of it, and I'm probably not explaining it correct So I was stoned on a couch I see what they were saying to try to defend him But there's some people that just get turned off by that kind of braggadocious Rap music I don't right.I love that shit well.I love 90s hip -hop talking about how great they are Love it.Yeah, I'm a giant fan of that shit.Yeah, you know I think like some of my favorite rap lyrics like some of Nas's lyrics just him talking about how he's the shit.Yeah, totally I don't mind that at all But it's like it's when you're singing along to that stuff and you're listening to that stuff like you're feeling what that guy's feeling when he's saying it and if his raps are hit if his rhymes are really hitting especially like Kanye or any of the greats you know Biggie Tupac Nas like when they're nailed it's like oh, oh With good lyrics and good execution.

It's a it's a fucking amazing art form even if USA really did create it.Yeah, I Don't want to believe that you know I think they're probably very they promoted it and What's really interesting is the lack of big rock and roll bands.I know Jamie's kind of defended this, but I think it's a fact.Oh no, no doubt.

There's less big rock and roll bands than when we were a kid.

When we were a kid, rock and roll was everything.It was like rock and roll.And if you like rock and rap, like you are a weirdo, you know?Like I really became a rap fan, like almost like silently, like secretly.Cuz you had to be a rock fan if you if you loved rock music And you went to rock concerts like that's all you liked, but I was like yeah, but this is good, too Oh, yeah, you know I'd like listen to ghetto boys.I'd be like you gotta listen to this come listen to this shit is

awesome Yeah, oh my range is rich absolutely ridiculous our green room.I just got Roy Orbison on vinyl oh Oh, yeah, pretty woman.Oh my god, and again.That's what we're gonna be trouble for that Fuck then again pretty woman much like Pink Floyd's wish you were here is like one of my when you get into their radio stuff It's kind of funny how some bands and musicians get like typecasted by their hit Whereas like pretty woman's kind of repetitive and easy even though it's a jam, right?Mm -hmm but his other songs they're like I hadn't even heard before cuz I'm like this guy seems like he has some fucking some hits and he does man and You know, I what I mean by the Pink Floyd thing is it always fascinated me that People go.Oh, yeah, I like Pink Floyd wish you were here another brick on the wall and it's like damn it It's because those are the radio songs because they can't play an 11 minute long shine on you crazy diamond, right?

all their real hits that they're real echoes, which is like 17 minutes and slow and fast and in bluesy and then jazzy and this and that Yeah, there were so many songs like that, especially from like the 70s where they just took wild chances and long -ass songs Like, famously, Freebird.

Like, record executives are telling him, like, the beginning of it is too slow.And they're like, nope.This is the song.Exactly.This is what it is.Bohemian Rhapsody.

Yep.There's another one.Yeah.Whole lotta love.Whole lotta love is a minute and a half of fuck sounds.

And cymbals and shit.It's weird.I only recently got to see the Queen movie.Whatever that is.Is that Bohemian Rhapsody?I believe so.

I haven't seen it.Yeah, well, I walked in on a party.where it's the wreck they're at the record executives office and he's going this can't be the main single off of this thing and and Freddie Mercury's like dude it fucking has and I'm obviously not right quoting this but And the record execs like man you're saying gibberish at points.It's slow with a piano You're saying things that don't even make sense and it's fucking eight minutes long like what are you thinking?And they're arguing back and forth and back and forth and his bass player guitarist or one of the guys that's in the meeting with this record exec sitting behind a big fancy desk Points at the wall and goes so you were the record exec that made this huh and he points at dark side of the moon and And you see the record exec go, oh, fuck.Because what the fuck was that?

It starts with a heartbeat, has no words for the first what however long.

Also, what is the deal with it aligning with the Wizard of Oz?Crazy.Roger says it's just coincidental.Know but it seems like the universe organized it.Yeah, it almost seems like evidence of the simulation Yep, cuz it's so good the way it lines up.

Yeah, it's too good.

I've always said it's the craziest coincidence of all time Feel like it's evidence of the simulation There's something about it.There's evidence of like some weird bizarre synchronicity between those two pieces of art.

I Yeah, the product producing that would have been near impossible.Yeah couldn't but just so hard and so hard things out.

Yeah technology then would have been so hard to do Yeah, so hard Pink Floyd would have to they would have literally have to watch it and then go over each beat and decide How high was the person that figured it out to?

Hold on is it can it's going it's still going right five minutes, right, but meanwhile, it's perfect

like we've watched it before yes perfect the lyrics are the scariest part which one is which at one point when only when the only moment when both the good witch and the bad witch are there yeah, it's nuts and The wildest one to me is always when she's balancing on the thing, you know, in black and white and with the other farmers around and on the run that crazy blub blub blub blub blub blub blub starts and she falls off at that exact moment and chaos is happening.

It's crazy.Is there a why in that conspiracy?You know, like why would they have done that just to do it?Just for funsies.Just because they were Pink Floyd.

Yeah, well, I mean Roger water says it was an accident.I know I'm just saying like I know I know but the conspiracy theorists I don't know I mean I would imagine they think that I brought the people that believed that it was some sort of a coordinated conspiracy It's like, why wouldn't they say that?Why wouldn't they just say, we lined it up with The Wizard of Oz?Yeah, if they said that, it would make more people watch it and more people listen.

Well, they did pretty good off of it.

Yeah, they did pretty good.Who are we to give them advice?Yeah.Speaking of doing pretty good, you're fucking killing it, dude.Congratulations.

Thank you, buddy.

It's awesome.Watching it all.Thank you, man.You're taking all the hits.Yeah.Keep on moving.

Keep on trucking.Just makes it stronger.

On to the next one.

Makes the jokes better.New jokes are killing it.Yeah.Yeah, it's fun.We're having a good time.Yeah.

Tuesdays and Wednesdays are the best.Working them out at the mothership.

Yes, sir.All right.I appreciate you, brother.Thank you, man.Hell yeah.Bye, everybody.