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Cesar Augusto Urrego, a 42-year-old carpenter, thought he was going to get away with it, that they would never catch him after he had killed Paul Andrea Quintana, 30 years old, with whom he had lived for three years in Bosa, in the south of Bogota. And this happened on September 7, 2025, when he was killed. of Bogotá. But it lasted 44 days. He escaped. And they caught him. Today we have with us Gina Quintana,

Paula Andrea's sister. And also Sergio Quintana, her father. And we will also have in this podcast the investigator, the person who arrived with his people from the police to catch this subject, who was very well hidden. Gina, thank you, thank you for being with us. Something always catches my attention, and that's why this podcast is important to me. And it's because, among the ones I've done,

the ones I've reported, there's always a common denominator. Death by mechanical accident. And also, in many of them, very toxic relationships, where they end and come back, end and come back.

Gina, thank you. Thank you very much for being with us here. Sergio, thank you.

Nice to meet you.

Sergio, when your daughter started dating Cesar Augusto. You saw him for the first time. What was your first impression?

My first impression was to tell my daughter that this guy didn't seem like a good guy to her. He transmitted evil, he a negative person. And also the age. She was a young girl, full of life, for a man older than her. I analyzed him very well and I looked at him and said, this guy is hiding something negative in his life. The guy didn't...

And then the day came when I could talk to her and I made the observation and he said no. That was the man she had chosen for her life and that she should respect her decision. However, I said, daughter, I hope you are not mistaken, but I will always be there. Unfortunately, I failed her because I was not there. I failed her because I wasn't there.

And also because I was away from her. So, I feel a little guilty because I knew that this guy wasn't a good person for my daughter's life. He wasn't. And now I'm here in front of you, telling you about the suspicion I had at that moment.

What did you think of Gina?

The first time I saw Cesar, I didn't trust him. He had a little unfriendly look, besides being too old for her. And I always told him that he wasn't the right person for her. She had a son from another couple. Juan Diego, 13 years old. And they start dating and they move in together. And she was always telling him that he was not the right person for her. But she always repeated the same thing, that he was the love of her life.

And that if he did all the crap that he did, that was the love of her life. She had a son from another couple. Juan Diego, 13 years old.

And they start dating and they move in together. of another couple. Juan Diego, 13 years old. And they start dating and they move in together. How was that relationship?

Because I know you were very close to your sister.

I distinguished him precisely for her birthdays, birthday number 27. I was going to go to the hospital. I was going to go to the hospital. I was going to go to the house where she lived, near my father, at 10 at night. He picked us up and we went out to dance.

He was with us that night. From that moment on, she stayed with him.

How was he with her?

A sick man. ¿Cómo era él con ella? Un enfermo. No la maltrataba solamente, sino psicológicamente también. Agredía a su género, diciéndole cosas hirientes, como que tenía un cuerpo feo, que mejores mujeres que ella existían, y que lo único que ella tenía era cara y eso desde un principio desde un principio esa relación fue tóxica ella no trabajaba

cuando ella se separó de Leo yo la ayudé a ella a conseguir trabajo en la empresa donde yo actualmente trabajo como operaria de aseos generales y ella trabajaba de noche en ese I work as a general affairs worker.

She worked at night at that time.

She told me that Cesar was very jealous, very aggressive and that they fought a lot. Leo was the first couple?

Yes.

And how did he treat her son?

She never told me about it. Maybe I mistreated him. The only thing I know is that on three occasions he threatened to hurt the child. He said things like don't be surprised if your son

appears dead like a friend of mine. Or things like I'm going to hit him where it hurts most.

When they fought.

Yes. And they fought? Yes.

And they fought and came back and fought and came back? Yes, it was a repetitive cycle. About six or seven separations. They lasted two, a month and a half, two months and they came back. And they broke more or less six houses in Bosa. How so? When she started with him, she lived in Socorro.

And from there, in the month, she went to Bosa, which was where Cesar lived. And the first house where they lived was a very hidden house, near a canyon, and there they had several problems and in one of those problems the owner of that house asked for because he came one day to break the windows and kick the doors

and it was what he always did in the other houses where they lived they always asked Paula for the apartment she rented because Cesar when they had problems and they got together, he would take care of the apartment, damage the few things he left and apart, he would come to the days to make a scandal. To look for her to fix things, but since she refused, then he made the scandal.

Until her 30th birthday came. Tell us.

That Saturday she was with me. Her job was security guard, and that Saturday she was on shift. And we had to wait for her to get to my house. She got to my house at 6 and 20 more or less. She got there alone, she didn't arrive with Juan. Juan is currently practicing sports.

And he was in a relay tournament that Saturday, so she didn't arrive with the child, she arrived alone. And we got ready, we were there in my house getting ready and talking a little, and she was telling me that she was deciding not to go back with Cesar, that Cesar had overshadowed her, had aged her soul, that she had hurt her feelings a lot, and that it was definitive that she was not going to go back with him. And she also told me that Saturday that he was calling her very repeatedly all day. era definitivo que no iba a volver más con él. Y también me contó ese sábado que él la estuvo llamando muy repetitivamente durante todo el día. De hecho, yo tengo la evidencia, un vídeo que la compañera de trabajo grabó,

y efectivamente él sí la estuvo llamando durante todo el día.

¿Cuánto llevaban en esa última separación?

Un mes y medio. Ya llevaban meses y medio separados. Y se separaron porque él, pues al parecer, estaba con otra persona. Y aparte pues se le había llevado abusivamente la moto, que era de ella. Entonces esa fue la causa de la separación.

Ella llega a tu casa y entonces?

Nosotras estuvimos hablando el sábado todo el día por Whatsapp y ella tenía una plancha de cabello y yo le dije a ella que me la prestara, que la llevara para que me arreglara el cabello. Y ella me respondió, me dijo, I was going to go to the hospital. I was going to go to the hospital.

I was going to go to the hospital. I was going to go to the hospital. I was going to go to the hospital. of her and she came telling me that her co-worker had lent it to her, but the condition was that she had to go at 10 at night to give it to her and that apart from going to give the iron, she was going to accompany her to follow her or spy on the girl's partner because according to the partner's partner, she was being unfaithful.

So she, my sister, was going to accompany Catalina, the co-worker, to verify if it was true. So she was going to meet her at 10 and I told her, Paula, but tomorrow we have a visit with my dad. We are going to visit my dad the next day. And she said, don't worry, it didn't take me more than two hours. I get there at midnight. So I told her, I give you the keys to the house,

and so that you don't wake me up or the kids. She fixed my hair, we got dressed, I lent her my clothes because she was wearing her uniform. And at 8, we went out to a restaurant where I had made a reservation. Because I had told her that we were going to celebrate her birthday like that. Usually it was always the cake at home, my mom, the whole family, lunch. I told her, this year it won't be like that.

I want it to be different, to be special.

And it was different.

Well, we went to the establishment and they served us, we ate, before arriving at the establishment near my house there was a pastry shop. As we were going to eat, I did not see the need to buy the cake, but it was a small, personal dessert for her. And we took it it to the establishment when we finished eating we put a candle and the four of us sang to her, she, my nephew,

my nine-year-old daughter Isabella and I, the four of us and we finished eating, we sang her happy birthday, we took some pictures and we went back to my house. We got to my house, it was ten to ten. Then she said to me, well Pau, as I told you, I'm going to go meet my friend, I'm going to deliver the iron. She took out the iron, and put it in a bag.

I wanted to tell her that I was going with her, but since the kids were alone, they couldn't stay. She said goodbye. I stayed at the door for a while until I didn't see her anymore. I was at the door of the house and I saw that she was not there, so I went in. At 10 and 7 at night I wrote to her. I felt something strange. I have always told my parents and I have always said it.

I felt something strange after I closed the door.

What was strange?

I took off my clothes and I felt like I had a bunch of things on top of me, something that made me feel like a weight, and a feeling of boredom, sadness, anger, feelings. I sat in my bed to chat and I wrote to her, that if I had already arrived where I had to arrive. She said, yes, Pao, I have arrived.

I said, everything is fine? He said, yes, everything is fine. He sent me some emojis, like, sad emojis, like, yes, no. I went to sleep.

At 12, 12.43 she called me and said, Pau, I have the motorcycle. I took the motorcycle from Cesar. I said, what? Which Cesar? I took the motorcycle from Cesar. I was half asleep and I told him, bring the motorcycle over here and tomorrow we'll see what we do. And what else do we do? That's what I told him at that moment.

And he said, wait, I'll make a few calls and if I come back I'll call you back. She wrote back to me after 10 minutes. She said she was outside. I got up and opened the door and she was outside with the motorcycle. I said, Paula, what are you doing with that motorcycle? Those were my words. What are you doing with that motorcycle?

She stood in front of me and said, I'm going to go to the bathroom. I said, I'm going to go to the bathroom. I said, I'm going to go to the bathroom. I said, I'm going to go to the bathroom. I said, I'm going to go to the bathroom. I said, I'm going to go to the bathroom.

I said, I'm going to go to the bathroom. I said, I'm going to go to the bathroom. I said, I'm going to he took her motorcycle. She told me that he was inviting her to a residence. She told him that she had to go to my house first and give me the keys I had given her. I was going to go out on Sunday with the kids, my father's children.

He said, let's go. I'll go with you and give you the keys. She said, no, you can't go with me because Gina doesn't know you're with me. So she told me, that she had told him, Cesar, if you love me, prove it to me. So he said, how do you want me to prove it to you? dijo como quiere que se lo demuestre entonces ella le dijo suélteme la moto así como se la soltó a su amigo y yo voy le llevo las llaves a Gina y me devuelvo usted me espera acá. Mi hijo Pau tan

descarado le pregunté que si era verdad que él le miraba las piernas a la hija de la vecina y me dijo que sí que él era un hombre y que los hombres miraban porque antes de separarse la dueña de la casa de ella vivía de ella murió de la le había hecho el reclamo a ella señora pablo lo que pasa es que césar me mira mucho la niña entonces por favor yo prefiero pedirle porque no quiero problemas 15 años. La testigo que vio como César a Paula.

Y entonces?

Le dije a ella, Paula, guarda la moto. Entonces, donde yo vivo hay un pasillo amplio. Y yo le dije a ella, entra la moto, la guardas y mañana miramos qué hacemos. Ella me dijo, no, Paula. No, porque César sabe que vengo para acá. No quiero que él venga a hacerte escándalo ni a joderte las palabras de ella. She said, no Pao, no because Cesar knows I'm coming here. I don't want him to come and make a scene or fuck up her words.

I went home, put my motorcycle away and came back. I looked at my motorcycle and it crossed my mind to take my motorcycle and go with her, to accompany her, to keep her motorcycle and return to mine. I didn't do it. I didn't do it because it was the first time she had problems with that type, of that level. And on one occasion, he had a similar problem. I left my house at three in the morning with my nephew

to go to one of the houses where she lived so that he wouldn't get there to take care of her and damage her things. And indeed, the guy came. The thing was that with my nephew, we had locked him inside.

So thinking about that, it was that, I just thought about taking the motorcycle and going with her and coming back. Maybe I would have gone with her that day. I don't know. Another story would have been.

And then what happened?

She wrote me at 1 and 4 minutes in the morning, after I was at my house.

She sent me a message, an audio, and the audio said, see I had to avenge myself for what they did to me. I can't even imagine. So she was going to stay at home?

She came to the house where she died.

And?

Until then, I lay down and, ten days before six, in the morning, my nephew came into my room and said, aunt, they're calling you. Something happened to my mom. cuarto. Me dijo, tía, te llaman, pasó algo con mi mamá. Yo le dije, ¿quién me llama? Que no sé, tía, pasó algo grave con mi mamá. Yo pasé el teléfono y la señora que me

habló me dijo, ¿habló con la hermana de Paula? Y yo decía, sí señora, ¿qué pasó? I spoke with Paula's sister. And she said, yes ma'am, what happened? And then she said, Mrs. Gina, you have the phone on speaker, the child is listening to you. And I said, no, no ma'am, what happened? And she said, Mrs. Gina, what happens is that what I have to tell you is very strong.

And I said, ma'am, what happened? He said, what happens is that your brother got disarmed.

So I got up from my bed

and took off my blanket and I said, no, it can't be possible, you're wrong. He said, no, I would like to be, but it's her. Paula got disarmed. So I got up from my bed I said, no, I would like to be there, but it's her. She's my sister Paula. So I got out of bed, I brushed my teeth, I got my hair done, and I went to bed practically in pajamas.

And I told Juan to stay with Isabela. What happened, aunt? I said, I don't know, I don't know, I'm going to see Okay, but so consume a month. He loves the heck on Javi like a watch. I'm gonna say He couldn't I get ya don't they I just

just yeah, I mean la quadra de na de cintas había ya patrullas de policía and The first person who received me was Mrs. Sandra, the tenant, the housekeeper. She threw herself on me and grabbed my head and said, Forgive me, forgive me, we don't know what happened, we don't know how she got in,

we don't know if we left the door open, we don't know if we opened it, no sabemos, estábamos muy tomados. Entonces yo lo que hice fue quitarme la señora encima porque ella pues prácticamente se me tiró encima y la corrí y fui y entré pues efectivamente había un cuerpo en el piso con una cobija. El dueño, el esposo de la señora, quitó la cobija y era ella. I took off the blanket and it was her.

It was Paula. It was Paula.

How did he get in there, Sergio? From what you know. Because there was a version that supposedly there was a construction in the house next door and that he had entered through the roof.

When I get to the scene of the events, the rumors, yes, I heard the noises. I heard that he went in through the open side, that he threw himself through the tile. Others said that it couldn't be possible, that it was through the main door. Well, in the pain and the moment of anguish that we had to see family member thrown on the floor like a dog there. I decide to enter, they didn't let me enter, but I decided to enter, I showed my cedula and the investigative body let me enter,

looking to see how the four walls where my daughter lived with that subject and that seemed like as I tell you, like when you set fire to a dry grass all your appliances burned, charred by the fire I enter the room where the events took place.

At the foot of the main room was the kitchen.

The caulking fridge, the stove practically caulking too.

I was about to open the fridge.

And to my surprise I find a birthday cake, totally as if it had just come out of the furniture and presentation of a biscuit shop. And I text her the words, Happy birthday baby, I love you so much baby. Then right away, I'm 58 years old, 59 years old, I say, but if that guy, they say he went through the texas. How do you get to this state?

In perfect condition. If he were Superman, then. To go down and carry the cake like this and have it in perfect condition. This guy entered through the main door. This was the main door. Who opened it? How did he get in? This guy entered through the main door. This was the main door.

Who opened it? How did he get in? Only God and the people who were there at that time knew. But he didn't go through the roof.

What was that house like? What was in that house? How many families lived there? How was the house organized? It was one floor, right?

Yes, yes, sir. It was a house, a first floor. It had two apartments. Separated? Yes, sir. Independent. Paula lived in the back, in the back, and the owners at the entrance to the house. The corridor was very narrow. The motorcycle fit, and a casa. El pasillo era muy angosto. Cabía la moto y un poquito de espacio para pasar.

¿Qué te dijeron que había sucedido esa noche cuando ella llegó a ese lugar?

La señora Sandra dijo que ella había llegado muy contenta porque había recuperado su moto. because she had recovered her motorcycle. And she, Mrs. Sandra, was drinking with her husband and invited Paula to a beer. And Paula went to drink beer with her in a establishment that was around the house where she lived. They were drinking like that at two in the morning. And Mrs. Sandra, I don't know,

the husband felt bad and left, and went to the house where my sister died.

To their apartment.

Yes, and she stayed there for a while in the establishment. After 2 in the morning, they returned to the house of to go to the apartment where she lived and stay in Juan Diego's room, my nephew.

That she was staying with you?

Juan stayed with me that night. Very likely, if Juan had been there, he would have died too. And... the youngest one who saw the events events. They entered the apartment, my sister went into her room, and Mrs. Sandra and the girl settled in Juancho's room. The girl stayed watching social media for a while, until about 2.45pm,

she fell asleep and then she started hearing noises. She said, Mrs. Sandra, help me, Mrs. Sandra. Then the girl says that she stopped and saw Cesar. She turned around and started calling her mom, Mom, mom, Cesar is here, mom, Cesar is here. The lady was in a high level of intoxication.

In fact, when she received me, I was...

And...

The girl had to put her hand on her face so that the lady could react. When the lady reacted, the girl came out and that's when she saw that Cesar was... ...and that Paula was trying to take it off her. Cesar had scratches and blood on his arms because Paula tried to take it off. Even though he had scratches and blood on his arms, because Paul was trying to take it off. And the last words of her were, Cesar, take the motorcycle, don't kill me for my son.

She said those last words and her neck and arms were all swollen, and she was looking up with his eyes wide open and when that happened he took off his underwear

and he...

he said, Cesar, what are you doing? and the guy reacted what are you doing here? he stopped and he stabbed her and that's when Sandra also stopped and he said, what are you doing here?

Oh, you're here too, old lady, I don't know what. Yes, we're here with Paula. Paula was already dead. So, the girl says that he took the shoelaces, he took the shoelaces off and tied them up, but before that he made her do it.

And he made her look for the keys to the motorcycle, to be able to take the motorcycle, and he had her threatened with a knife made of white cacha. A big knife that Paula had in the kitchen, made of white cacha.

But he didn't do anything to the girl?

The girl says he didn't do anything to her.

And then?

Her goal was Paulan. And what did he do?

He proceeded, the girl says, he saw him, when he first tried to manipulate natural gas. He took care of the psychopaths like that. Not being able to do that, the witness argues, that she saw when she took gasoline out of the motorcycle and started pouring gasoline on the furniture in the living room. Well, where you go, you take fire by force, obviously,

because that was made of wood and fabric yes and on top of that room there were tiles because this is the house of a floor was with tiles and saw that when she when he did that she looked that he took the keys in his power of the motorcycle took out took out the gasoline, he watered it, he set fire, he set fire to the flight, the subject what do I want to tell you with this, that guy was terribly crazy, crazy, a psychopath at that moment because he could not imagine the magnitude of what he was doing, you can imagine where natural gas had reached the game?

Or he had found the auxiliary register inside, had opened it and the game caused the tragedy in the neighborhood? It causes it. That would have been a tremendously high-level sinister, yes? People who have nothing to do with it. I apologize to my daughter's soul for the word I just said. of my daughter was already dead, and I would go to those two people alive and set fire to their house. In all my pain and everything that was experienced at that moment, I thank the Lord that at least my daughter was not killed.

And the two people alive, right? Because what if that girl had not been able to, or that Lord had not been there, the girl's father? esa niña no había podido o ese señor no había estado ahí el papá de la niña él se despertó y qué hizo? Supuestamente la niña dice que ella gritó y gritó porque es que el papá estaba profundamente dormido también porque el papá estuvo ingiriendo licor y argumenta la niña que ella gritó duro y el señor y el humo y la huyara porque es que la candela estaba generando huya estaba quemando el plástico and the smoke, and the smoke, because the candle was generating smoke, it was burning the plastic.

And the man, well, in his morning drinking, he heard the girl and he got up, of course, the smell and the candle, the fire, and he got to the facts, because this is the entrance, here is their apartment, he continues, and there is the apartment that was my daughter's in the back. The man comes out and sees the advanced game. He is the first to vote. He saw my daughter being voted there. He said, Dad, Dad, Paula is dead, Paula is dead. He took her out of the way, because he took her out of the way.

He took her out, dragged her, and took her to the main exit, and returned to the game. Because the girl was already tired of jumping the cords, and she woke up the mother too. She was like that. My daughter was left outside, and he dedicated himself to extinguish the fire. If not those people, I don't know. Or if the girl had been asleep, like the mother.

Tragedy. Psychopath. What can I say about that increment? Excuse me for the word.

Terrible. Terrible.

Goodbye, thank you. God put something in that person's heart that denounced that guy where he was hiding. Because I confess, Mr. Poveda, that I don't know what happened to the day he was presented there in the basket when they took him. Nobody knew. We only knew it by the news. We tried to go visit him but it was not possible.

Because I confess that the mind is damaged. You touch the heart, the mind, you touch what is the human being that you suddenly do not plan to be.

You return that evil to yourself. No one is the owner of anyone's life, only God. And he goes to the other side of the world. And he goes to the other side of the world. And he goes to the other side of the world. And he goes to the other side of the world. And he goes to the other side of the world. I see that guy and my silence will tell him what I feel in my heart and mind.

And he escapes and goes to Puerto Boyacá, which is in the Colombian middle Magdalena. It's a pretty complicated place in terms of public order. the police, and she was taken to a relative. But there was already a reward from the beginning of the police of 10 million pesos, about $2,700 for information that would lead to their arrest. And we have our colleague, Siria Ortiz, with the investigator who carried out all this tracking because they had to disguise themselves to get to that place, which was quite complicated.

And that's how they caught him.

Rafa Cesar Augusto Urrego thought he could get away with it since he fled to a place of difficult access for the authorities, but until then, the SIJIN of Bogotá arrived to capture him.

Investigator, where did he initially flee to?

He initially fled from the city of Bogotá on the motorcycle stolen from the victim. He moves, on the same day of the events, to the sector of the Magdalena, in the middle of Santander, on the border day, to the Magdalena sector, in the middle of Santander, within the limits of the municipality of Puerto Boyacá.

When the Paul Andrea case happened, what information did you initially have?

We, according to information provided by Fuente Humana, and seeing that it is a case of general connotation, my general, the commander of the Metropolitan Police of Bogota, offers a reward to the mayor of the city, where they indicate that for 10 million pesos any vital information for the capture of this subject. Then, information comes out provided by a person who indicates that this person was in an inhospitable area of the Magdalena Medio.

How was it for you to enter that area,

so difficult for you as police officers?

Well, I had knowledge of the presence of armed groups organized in the sector where this person was hiding. Likewise, with the training that the National Police gives us through the years, we managed to characterize ourselves as people and inhabitants over the years, we have been able to characterize ourselves as people and inhabitants of the area and we infiltrate the area where Cesar Aguz is captured.

So, like, you take some, someone in the training told you, like, you saw Cesar Aguz?

Yes, you have to role play, impersonate.

When you get to that area, how do you achieve that perfect personification to go unnoticed?

A study is done of the terrain where we are going to arrive to perform this task. a community and obviously the armed groups that operate there. When you got to that place where he was, who was he living with? He apparently was living with a relative, with his aunt, in the rural area of this sector of the Magdalena Medio Santanderiano.

And the aunt knew what he had done?

Yes, of course, that was a case of national connotation, his face appeared on various television media and others, national salio su rostro en varios medios de televisión y demás y obviamente con el ofrecimiento que se hizo a través de la policía metropolitana de Bogotá y de la Fiscalía General de la Nación para que esta persona compareciera ante la justicia. Es decir, la familia lo estaba encubriendo. Sí, todavía tenía cierta protección de sus familiares. Cuando ustedes llegan ahí, ¿cómo fue la reacción de él? ¿De pronto try to run away? No, this person was totally surprised because, as he later told us, there had never been a public force in that sector of the Magdalena Medio, a fairly complex sector because they delinquent members of the Gulf clan, and in that area the National Army or the National Police had never been there.

So it's very rare for a small group of judicial police to get to that place of arrest and go out with this subject to answer for his crimes.

How many people were in that operation?

Four judicial police officers.

Rafael, there is definitely no perfect crime, and now Cesar could be spending up to 50 years in prison.

Thanks Syria. He was accused of aggravated assault, violent assault, aggravated and qualified assault because he also took the motorcycle. And the incineration of the house, where there were people alive, two people.

What do you get out of all this?

What can I tell you? My pain and my sadness of not having my daughter is something irreparable, that it will never happen to me again. What can I tell you? One sees faces, not hearts. The feelings of the human being are hidden. From here to the outside I reflect many things,

but inside you don't know who you're dealing with. It's very difficult, excuse me the word, one would like to know what are the feelings of the human being inside. That is impossible, only God knows that.

And that's where our mistakes come from. For giving our soul to people who come into our lives with beautiful words, with things that at first are beautiful and one stops being dazzled by that, but one knows the evil that is covering it at that moment.

Tuchina

Sometimes we don't make the best decisions and we get carried away by the emotions of the moment What is collected is from those decisions that are made. If they are good, they are good fruits. If they are bad decisions, the consequences are assumed. Sometimes not listening to the advice and letting ourselves be carried away by the heart and not by reason, leads us to these situations.

Who are you living with, Juan Diego? and that's what brings us to this situation.

Who are you living with, Juan Diego?

With myself.

You were very close to your sister, weren't you?

Very close. I was the first person who saw Juan when he was born. And after all this, I think God was preparing the path for us. Because the child lived with us until he was three years old. When she met Leo, she left with Leo. Leo had a relationship with her until the child was ten years old. But at that time, I would go wherever she lived. She lived in many places.

And wherever she went, I would go and look for Juan. And I would take him to my house on the weekend. Even a few months before she went to work, I would take Juan everywhere. We would go out to eat. Juan would take me everywhere. We would go out to eat and we would take Juan. The last trip I did was to Cali and I took him. She let me take him for 20 days.

We were always very close to the boy. He is with me because he loves her.

How are you going to remember her, Sergio?

She was my friend. Happy, happy. The last time I saw her alive, I saw her at my daughter's house. And I didn't tell her. I came to visit my daughter because of a paperwork and that, well, I took advantage of the moment. And Alegría arrived there on her bike at almost 6.40 because she worked nearby where my daughter lives.

She told me, oh my old man, you came and you didn't tell me. Bad thing, my old man, you didn't tell me. That was the last time I saw her alive, in the apartment over there, because she was with her. She was her sister and they shared a joint in the same neighborhood. But of my three children that I had with Mrs. Erika Cruz Quintana, she was the one who accompanied me with my craziness.

She was a little more serious, but she was a folklorist, I call her to the subject. And she always came to my calls and I miss that a lot. And the call she made to my son at about 12.40, 45 that night, dawn already Sunday, the day of the events. That doesn't come out of my mind either. I have those three things and the last one when she goes and picks it up,

I imagine, a bottle and the last one when she goes and picks her up, I imagine, with a bottle and a dog, without vital signs. Those are three things that are. Live with me wherever I go, always travel with me in my mind.

Sergio, thank you for coming.

To you, sir, for the opportunity.

I regret it very much.

And may this program serve other people and have a little more care care where they step, where they walk and where they enter. And that it also serves so that we have a precedent within the negative things that happened to us. That it is something for a vision of the people who watch this program for good and do not have this pain that we are going through in the Quintana family. Thank you very much, sir, and God bless you. program para bien y no tengan este dolor que estamos pasando a la familia Quintana Quintana muchas gracias a usted señor y Dios lo bendiga

Sergio gracias es el propósito China gracias muchas gracias gracias por haber confiado en nosotros y lo lamento mucho

muchas gracias Rafa

muchas gracias

gracias a todos ustedes también por acompañarnos y pues I'm very sorry. Thank you very much, Rafa. Thank you all for joining us and allowing us the opportunity to be able to narrate this. And that all the women who are watching this program be aware of their decisions, that they choose the person they choose to be with, share their lives, and form a home. And we hope, on behalf of my whole family, that this program, this that has just happened here, helps us to get justice done faster.

It is the most important thing. Thank you very much. It is the most important thing. Thank you very much.

Thank you very much, Rafa.