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The following story caught the attention of many, not only in Cali, but in different parts of Colombia. It happened on February 13, 2024, when the 61-year-old Mrs. María Victoria Loaiza lost her life at the hands of a person to whom she had rented a room in her house, and he had only been living there for five days. That day, Freddy Ortiz, 27 years old, a relative close to her, was injured.

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Well, what happened that day? Why did Mateo Alejandro give these wounds to Ama Blanca, not only to her, the mortals, but also to Freddy Ortiz? We have moved, this is the Hamundi prison, which is about an hour from Cali.

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Mateo, thank you. Thank you for being with us a una hora de Cali. Mateo, gracias. Gracias por estar con nosotros y por concedernos esta entrevista. ¿Cómo comienza todo esto?

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Bueno, pues la verdad de esta historia fue, pues yo desde los 18 años vivo solo. Yo soy I'm a barber and I always rent pieces like this every two months, every three months. I was selling a piece in Cepas but I didn't have a place that was more decent, that had internet and support and everything. So when I was passing by that block, I saw a sign that said that the room was being rented. So I went and talked, they asked me for the papers,

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a letter of recommendation, a work card, my bank account, and I went and took everything. I paid my rent, I paid my money. So, as I was just arriving, I was good with the people in the house, right? I helped them, I brought them breakfast, hot food, chips. The lady liked to smoke, so I bought her a cigarette.

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I accompanied the guys to the bathroom, because that's how I lived.

2:34

Who lived there?

2:35

The lady and a guy who was a bit weird, because he had done something in the past, and as a consequence they had left him like that. That's what they told me, that they had given Christian to someone. Who was it? He told me that she wasn't his mother. He said that she was taking care of him, and that his mother was somewhere else.

2:55

Because I did ask her about it. And well... What was the lady like? The lady, well, she... They kept arguing a lot and scream like that. She liked to smoke a cigar, but I only lasted five days there and I didn't treat her much.

3:13

I would spend it working and just rest like that during the day. Well, then I arrived, I paid my rent and I gave him 200,000 so he could save it. And I was a fan of the man and I gave him 300,000 so he could save it. And the man came and I told him, I gave him 300,000 so he could save it. So she told me, no, take them away because if he spends them, I'm not going to pay for the other one. So I went and told her, the truth is that she told me not to give her my money. So I told her, go buy a lottery ticket. And she said, yes.

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I went and bought my breakfast, I threw my money in the lottery. And then every day, since I worked as a barber, I made 100, 120, 150, the normal. So, since I threw money in the lottery every day, I realized that he had been forcing himself because I know that a guy has taken money from someone else's wallet So I realized that I spend all day here and I bought a wallet so I was working my mind

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because he knew that I was going to work and that he was going to stay at home and he could go in and take get the money to buy what he liked. I smoked marijuana. So, he came and stole my money, so I complained to him, I told him, man, go to the store and get me the piece that I like, or with that. So I got there and he didn't like it. The next day I thought he was alone in the house because there was no one there.

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So I got there and I saw some guys with guns in the pipe. You? Yeah, so I think he smelled like shit and he called the lady. So the lady told me, no, I don't want to see you here all day, just come at night. So I said, no, that's not how I do it.

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I run five days and give me the rest of my money. I look for a piece in Marketplace and I change it once.

5:14

How much did you pay for the rent?

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350. But since I had already lost my money, I always look for someone to keep the money so I don't spend it. And did you pay him the $350 or how much did you pay him? Yes, I gave him $350 and $200 so he could save it. And I gave the man $300 but I gave it back to him, I threw it away.

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But I realized he was lying to me, so I called him attention. I think that's why he called the girlie, who asked me to smoke, to make me angry. So, the lady came, told me that, and I said, no, but you know what? Give me my money. I tried to reason, to tell her, because it was never my intention, I didn't plan it, because in five days I had to go for a month, I was scheduled to go for a month. And after five days, I said, days, I didn't want to go.

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So I told Fred, I told him, I told Fred, I told Fred, I told Fred, I told Fred, I told Fred, I told Fred, I told Fred, I told Fred, a phone to my nephew and I was like what's wrong with him? Why is he yelling at me? What is he going to do with that? And he started getting closer and I took it off. As soon as I took it off, he started running to the kitchen and he grabbed a knife.

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6:52

I got there and I got closer from behind and I grabbed it like this. And then I got there and I took it off. As soon as I took it off,'m going to hit her three times and three times to the man and I'm going to get my money back. I hit her three times, one on the neck and two on the chest. And she fell. And then I went to the man and I said, yes, this is your fault. I told him I didn't have any more money. I need to go.

7:25

After beating up this woman, what did you do?

7:29

Well, I went to Anderman because he was looking at me and saw that I did that. So I beat stabbed her three times. And they fell like that, the man fell to the floor. And I went, I took a bag, I wrapped the knife in a bag, and I put on my shoes and I left. When I was leaving, the police came.

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And I went back and the lady's sister was opening the door. She entered the house and I heard a scream, I said, no, there's no way out of here. So I told my boss, because I provide services, I know how the hierarchy is, how to talk to them. So I told my boss, what happened is that

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I had an argument with the lady of the house, she stole my money, she stabbed me, and I took it away. She tried to stab me, and I stabbed her three times. And I was there, too.

8:31

And a lot of people started to arrive, and they were going to lynch you?

8:36

No, they were outside the house, because they heard screams, and there were like seven or eight or nine people. And what happened? They were already there. I got out and I started walking normally. When they entered the house, I said, take what you have. I said, no, well,

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I already assumed the consequences of my actions because I made a mistake. At the time of the raid, I didn't have a pandemic. I said, no, my money, dance. And I did what I thought was right. And did you get your money back?

9:12

No, no, no, I couldn't get anything back. I just grabbed the knife and the bag and left.

9:21

What went through your mind at that moment? Why did you react like that?

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Well, because I've always had to work and survive alone. So I didn't have, I didn't have anyone to help me pay for another piece, so I had to survive and have a place to sleep. And because I didn't have any money, I did it for my money.

9:54

How was your relationship with them?

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I always treated them with respect and trust. When you move to a new house, you don always become friends with the people who rent it. It's normal. That was it.

10:16

Did it have to do with the fact that you had smoked marijuana or how you were at that time?

10:22

I had smoked marijuana, but I don't know if it has anything to do with it. I remember what Ray told me, he said, no, how am I going to save my money? I said, no, fuck it. Domino's, of course. Of course, now I'm not going to look at her as a woman and as a man in a wheelchair. I don't think about it. But why would I be in a relationship like that? Because of my money.

11:00

It's my turn. I had to. You had to. Well, my journalist, Ciri Ortiz, here in Cali, interviewed Freddy Ortiz, who you assaulted.

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He has a different version of yours.

11:13

Rafa, Freddy has another version of the facts, but to start, let's clarify, was Maria Victoria your aunt?

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11:20

He said that I told him that I had told him that she was my aunt. No, at no time did I tell him that she was my aunt. to is cerebral spastica and motor insufficiency.

12:06

What was the supposed theft of the cash register?

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I never went into her room to take anything from her. I always kept my mom in my room because I never left my house without my mom. When my mom went to work, I stayed at home. I always stayed in my room. I didn't leave my room at all.

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Freddy, what really happened that Tuesday, February 13, 2024?

12:39

What happened was that from Monday 12 to midnight, he started to write some provocative messages to my mom, telling her to share with her that he wanted to smoke with her and that I didn't know what to do. She said no. And then he wrote things like harassing her and all that. And that was what triggered that. Because he, like the other day, he wanted to talk to my mom, but my mom didn't want to talk. So she was in the kitchen, having a normal lunch.

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So, what happened was that he wanted to apologize for those messages, but my mom didn't want to talk to him, and nothing. So, he approached her to attack her, con él y nada. Entonces él se le acercó a agredirla y mi mamá lo que hizo fue defenderse, quitárselo encima. Entonces como él se entró a la habitación un rato y ya después vino a decir otra vez que quería hablar con ella, ya luego la apretó después en el segundo He then squeezed her, in the second strongest moment, to force her to talk to him.

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And then he harassed her, grabbed her by the waist, and wanted to, well, you know, attack her. But she didn't let him. So, my mom, he started to hit her, so she took him off her back, and started to say, what don't you? Yeah, me a mother in the impassable and don't you say look at the encima in the impasse is it? Okay, pens as

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You know, I'm talking to you. Okay, pens as you know, they also come in for a course They come for the house. He because I were on last palabras this toys Yeah, yeah, yeah And the and for the notching the reclamation she complained about all her messages, right? He started to... to...

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to...

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to...

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because... because my mom... my mom told him that... that I had complained about all that. So I went out... to...

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to defend my mom. Then... he took my... my cell cell phone and I started crying. He started to hit my mom. I told him to stop. I told him to stop.

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He hit her harder so I could see him. Then he went to grab a knife and my mom told me, let's lock ourselves in the room. But because of the nerves, she got paralyzed. So I told her, come in, I'm staying outside, I'm staying in the room. So she said, no, no, no, come in with me.

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So, because she didn't want to leave me, he grabbed her again and started to beat her. I threw myself to take the knife away, with the chair and everything, but he grabbed the chair and threw me back. He started to hit my mom, I was like, I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die.

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I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. I'm going to die. And my mom would tell me, Freddy, are you okay? In the last few words she would tell me, Freddy, are you okay? Freddy, Freddy.

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Because I was able to have consciousness, because he thought I was going to kill me, but I heard my mom saying, ''Pedro, are you okay?'' ''No, I can't go, what's going to happen to my son?'' Those were her last words. To be honest, seeing her blood.

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Her blood was very hard. Very hard because I couldn't do anything. Even though I threw myself and tried, I couldn't do anything to took the knife. And I sometimes think that I was the one to blame for everything that happened. Because I trusted the words he told me when I was alone at home. When he came and knocked on the door and told me that he had spoken to my mother and told me that

17:59

Because of the attack that Mateo did to him, what are the consequences?

18:02

That's why I lost my voice and I have a hoarse voice. Look, here I had all the marks. Here they had to open me because I was running out of breath. I was swallowing my blood, drooling with my blood. Here they opened me up about 30 doors here on this part, on the right.

18:30

What was the rent of the room really?

18:34

He had few things, he had almost no money. He asked for a cheaper rent. My mom said, well, no problem, I can give you 250,000 pesos. But at no time did my mom ask for 300 or 350, as he says.

18:54

Had you ever killed before?

18:56

No, that was my first crime. I had never done anything like that.

19:03

You told me before the interview that you once stole from a cousin of yours.

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Once with a cousin, we were going to steal his phone and they were going to lynch us, they chased us a little bit and I said, no, that's not for me. I didn't want to do that. And where are your parents? Who comes to visit you? I don't need anyone because I'm always alone, working. Tell us about your home? No, I wouldn't like to talk about my family because I don't feel anything with my family,

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my brother, my mother. But thank God they are fine and everything is fine. I would rather not talk about it. How long have you been here in prison? I've been in the Jamundí prison for a year. It's good. They've always treated me well. Everything with respect, pure conviviality. And a year in the station.

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I've been there for two years.

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How long were you sentenced?

20:21

I was sentenced to 24 years. How old are you? I was sentenced to 24 years. How old are you? I'm 27. I would like to tell the boys to think twice before committing a crime. Because when you kill or rob or commit a crime, each decision has a consequence. And so, I didn't think about it, and now I'm sentenced and I have to spend some time here. But, no, let's move forward.

21:00

What do you say to the relatives of Mrs. Maria Victoria?

21:04

Well, first, I feel sorry for her. I want to apologize, but I know that you can never forgive something like that. It was wrong, if you know what I mean. But, to be honest, I didn't have any money to pay another rent, and I felt like they were going to rob me of mine. And I did what I thought was easy.

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I assumed the consequences of my actions, I'm going to pay my crime, and when I get out, we'll see what happens. me We place that one was I got ya

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pasa

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Kill a safari

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Frey place Que eso no era paso sin la puerta meter semi pesar me me Acuérdeme la plata la cancilla si no fuera pues a llamarla a hacer me regañar if I hadn't called her to make me angry. But I'm not going to justify what I did because it wasn't right. What I did was wrong because I only gave the mom three points.

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22:18

Only?

22:19

Yes, because they say I gave her a little and they're lying. You can check the medical records. I imagine this has to be all written, right? That I only hit him three times. I know what I did. I said, if I get my money back, I'm leaving. Bye. And if not, I'm going to have to go to jail or something.

22:49

If you understand me, I'll take it.

22:52

The robbery and the robbery of the bank, is it something you're saying to justify what you did?

23:01

No, it's something I say so people know, like you said, that from one moment to another, one person attacks another. There has to be a reason or motive for another person to start arguing or attacking another. Because they provoked me because they stole my money, and you know that money is not being kept because you don't need it. They come and take it away. I was going to go to Pandeco. So, I know what I did.

23:39

If you could go back in time, how would you have acted if you had been told, you are leaving the house and we are not going to return the money, according to what you are saying?

23:51

No, I would not have done that because now I have to spend a little time here, on the side, and I can't take it. I would have let them take the money and I would have sold what I had and paid for another piece. But at the moment I didn't think like that, I just wanted to recover what was mine. Because it was my money. Did it make you very angry? What happened to you? Ah. Te dio mucha ira, ¿qué pasó por tu mente? Sí, me dio rabia, obvio. Porque yo nunca me voy a borrar de nadie.

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A mí me gusta trabajar y andar solo en la mina, siempre firme. Leal con los que son leales y pa' eso. Entonces, por las buenas yo soy bien, pero por las malas yo también soy malo. Y eso es que yo soy de la calle, yo soy humilde. but I also hear bad things. I'm from the streets, I'm humble. I've been out a lot,

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and we do things like this. You know? Let's move forward. And that's it.

25:09

We can say that you killed someone's life for 300,000 pesos.

25:16

Yes, for my money. Because I had nowhere else to go. I didn't have anyone to help me pay for another piece.

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I wanted my money to pay for my other piece. And you stay here for at least 22 more years. Yes. And you're 27.

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Yes, it's a little time. But what can I do? I'm already here. I was always gold and and ask God for forgiveness for what I did and for strength to keep going. I hope everything goes well.

25:56

Thank you, Alejandro. Thank you for your time and for accepting our interview. Gracias por tu tiempo, por aceptarnos la entrevista.

26:10

Me llama mucho la atención lo que te pasó.

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Y cómo te pudiste descontrolar de esa manera. Y cómo te pudiste descontrolar de esa manera.

26:21

Fue un error, pero ya lo hice ya.

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