"Me dio dos veces en el cuello y ahí perforó mi tráquea": Valentina Gilabert | MLDA

You probably remember this case that we are talking about here, but the whole country talked about this case, about this young model, Valentina Gilabert, who at the beginning of this year, in February, was attacked with a knife by an influencer, by Marian Gonzaga.

This happened on February 4, I was telling you, exactly seven months ago. Valentina, as far as we know, met her boyfriend and some friends in a department of the residential group Park Pedregal,

this is in the Obregón mayor's office in Mexico City. And late in the morning, Marian managed to enter the apartment enter her ex-boyfriend's apartment and after arguing, she attacked Valentina. 15 stabs. She tried to escape, but was arrested by the authorities. The injuries to Valentina were serious, very serious. She suffered injuries.

I remember that we gave the report on the chest, on the lungs, on the hand, on the neck, on the face. She was in a coma for several days. However, despite the seriousness of the case, it was revealed that Valentina had decided to forgive Marian, who had also been judged as a minor,

because she was indeed 17 years old, and was accused of assault, not attempted homicide. But today we have the opportunity to talk to her, to tell us how she is, and to give us the details of her own case. Valentina Gilaberta here in the Forum. Thank you very much. Thank you, Valentina.

Thank you.

How are you?

Well, better, really, much better.

I have recovered quite well. It's been seven months since then.

Yes.

How have these seven months been? I mean, I guess physically, in terms of health, but emotionally and psychologically, this must have been very traumatic, Valentina.

Well, yes, the truth is that it was a pretty tough situation and it was complicated to start my life again. But I've managed to get through things pretty well and I'm fine. Right now I'm pretty calm. And, well, yes, it's been a very big trauma, but I have had a lot of support from my family.

I still go to therapy, so everything is better. Your family was with you at all times. I remember, well, calls of justice, calls of justice, calls of justice from your family immediately after this happened, right?

Yes, my family has not let me go for a minute.

They have always been with me. Have you always been close to your family? Have you always been close to your family?

Yes, I have always been a very close family. We ate family meals once a week, we have always been very close, but this situation made us

get closer. And we were in a... We were also in this very strong process because my grandmother died three weeks earlier. So, a lot of things came together

and we became much closer.

What do you remember about that night, that early morning, Valentina? How did you experience it at that moment and how do you remember it today?

Well, I remember everything that happened. I remember how everything happened since I arrived,

until I got to the hospital and they put me to sleep.

I remember everything.

Can you tell us a little bit about how it was?

Well, I got to the apartment of this supposed friend.

Who was your friend?

Yes, she was one of my best friends. We were there for a while. I didn't know Mariana was there. She had told me they had fought. Before I left, she swore she wasn't with her. She said she would never do something like that to me. She said she would never expose myself to those kinds of situations.

And after a while I accepted it. I went to the apartment with my boyfriend. Did you get there together? Yes, we got there together. We were in the apartment for a while. And your best friend is there. Yes. Um... because she had to tell me a gossip. So I write to her and tell her to go.

I'll tell you later, but take your time. They leave and she...

Your boyfriend and another friend were there.

And she asks me to go to the bathroom, which I didn't find strange. We go to the bathroom and he closed the door for sure. We were talking but he didn't do anything in the bathroom. We were just talking in the bathroom. After a while, I thought it was weird.

I see that he gets a message from Marianne. A dot. It wasn't a text arrives, a dot. It wasn't a text, nothing, just a dot. And at that moment, I already had some doubts, so I told her, we have to get out of here. I mean, what are we doing in the bathroom?

Well, I don't know if fear, but I already had the suspicion that something was going to happen. We left the bathroom. She asked me to leave first. I left and she came out behind me.

I felt like three blows on my back.

I thought it was her. I turned around, thinking, why are you hitting me? I didn't understand. I turn around and I see Marian in front of me. And since I was very close to her, I fell backwards and I stayed on the floor.

And that's where Marian crouches.

She hit me three times in the chest,

in the chest,

in the face, in the head. And as I started to feel air coming out of my lungs, I put my face down to put pressure on my chest and I left my hand on the floor. I don't know why, she just hit me on the hand for no reason. I still don't understand.

And she was injured? Yes. Then they left the room. Marian asked him to help her clean. They both left. When I saw them leaving the room. Marian asks him to help her clean. They both leave. When I see them leave the room,

I stop and walk to the door to be able to leave because I knew I was losing a lot of blood.

But you could walk?

Well, more or less. I walked three steps and Marianne saw me. The knife was in the burrow. She grabbed it again and told me that if I moved, she would kill me. So I asked her not to do anything to me. Evidently, it didn't help at all.

He hit me twice in the neck and that's when he punctured my trachea. I couldn't move anymore. I had already lost a lot of blood. I stayed in bed and shortly after, around three minutes, they rang the doorbell. and just as the bell rang, Jose rang the bell.

And...

Jose, your partner? Your boyfriend?

Yes.

And he came in and... the first thing he said was, please tell me you're not dead. And I said no, with my head, because I couldn't speak. And...

Well, I called the ambulance, I called my parents, I called the police. And he was... I mean, since he arrived, he was holding my neck to cover my wounds. Trying not to cover my wounds.

Trying to keep you from bleeding.

I arrived at the hospital.

I remember arriving at the hospital. I remember the doctors introducing themselves to me.

They asked me if I felt pain.

I remember saying yes, but I genuinely don't remember feeling... It feels like it's burning. It burns inside. The feeling that you're losing so much blood. They took me to do some studies in which they needed me to drink water.

So I drink water and the water comes out of here. Then they realized I had a leak and they put me to sleep. I was in induced coma for five days.

Five days. And what did your supposed best friend do while this whole attack was happening?

Nothing. She just looked at me.

And you didn't say anything? Did you get to tell them something? Later, when Jose arrived, who was a little more calm, I feel a little more protected. Someone arrived. Yes, I asked him, why didn't you do anything? And he answered me, well, I had a knife, what did you want me to do? And that was the only thing I talked to her about. But obviously she was an accomplice to Marian.

Yes. They planned all of this together. And I had this conversation with Marianne a few months ago. Because I didn't know what had happened before I arrived. And she told me that it had been planned between them. That not to the extent of...

I mean, her plan wasn't to physically attack me. What was the plan?

He wanted to scare me. Or that's what he says.

So you'd leave the boyfriend...

He wanted to scare... I mean, he wanted to ask me if I was with him. That perfectly, if he had asked me, I would have said yes.

But besides, she knew.

Well, no. We hadn't even been dating for three days. Three days. And we knew that she could react badly. And as soon as we were about to go out, we said, why do something so big now, if we didn't even know we were leaving, we said, why do something so big

if we didn't even know we were going to be together? And she didn't want me to go out with anyone else.

I see. And this best friend of yours, what's her name?

Aitzani.

Did she know you were going out with Jose?

She didn't know either.

Oh, she didn't know either. But you went to the apartment with him.

Yes, we dated a lot. Because I was also friends with her. In fact, she introduced me to him. I met him because of her.

And was Mariana your friend too?

No.

I mean, we had like, common friendships. But we were became friends. I met her a long time ago. So you didn't know her while she was Jose's girlfriend?

No. In fact, I met her before she was Jose's girlfriend. And then I didn't know anything about her until she got pregnant and it went viral. And... After I started getting along with this girl, I started to know a little more about her, but I already knew that they weren't together, or at least that's what she told me.

Because she told me, they're not together, they broke up, they're not coming back, and she told him she doesn't care if he goes out with him. She was trying to

give each of them

an opposite version.

Why do you decide

to forgive

Miriam?

I think it's something that was never fully understood.

I didn't forgive her. She has a sentence that she continues to fulfill. She apologized to me personally in the last hearing. She just apologized to me and I accepted it. But it wasn't a legal apology. He just apologized and I accepted it.

How did Estella get out of prison? It was through a short procedure in which her lawyers and my lawyers talked It was through a short-term procedure

in which his lawyers and my lawyers talk

and an agreement was reached that everything could be done much faster.

Through an economic compensation? Yes, the damage repair. The damage repair.

Were you interested in the damage repair? Well, not so much, because I don't think there's a quantity that can compensate for what I lived. But I feel that it was necessary, even if it was for my parents, who invested a lot of money in my health

and they continue to do so to this day.

I think it was the best option. And this forgiveness that you say, I accepted, she apologized and I accepted. Have you genuinely forgiven them? I mean, it was violence, it was a virulence.

How can you understand that a young person reacts this way? Out of jealousy or whatever.

Well, of course I don't understando, ni que deba de ser normalizado, pero siempre he sido bastante optimista, y siempre soy, siempre digo de lo malo lo bueno. I always say, the good and the bad. I was already aware that she was going to be in the assisted liberty.

I think that for my peace, I chose to forgive her.

Because I don't plan to live with that anger towards her. It would take away more from me. What is the good thing after this traumatic event and episode in your life?

That I learned to enjoy everything. Everything. I mean, before, I've always been a very, very, very happy person, but it made me appreciate very small things, like going out to eat with my sister, or when I woke up and I had an intermediate therapy, going to the bathroom and being able to take a shower,

and not being showered in a bed, for me it was super special. Being able to do normal things, and having the opportunity to do them again, or to keep doing them,

is very beautiful, really. And I suppose you also realize what a friendship really means.

Of course.

And have you talked to this other friend again? Never again? Never again. No. So the last time you saw her was in that apartment?

Yes.

She never looked for you again? She never tried to look for you again? Nothing?

No. She never came to the hospital. She never talked to me. Never. Nothing.

How long had you two have been friends?

About a year.

And you were very close?

Yes, we saw each other every day.

And you did things together? Yes. And she knew about you and you knew about her? Yes. We had the same circle of friends. She knew everything about me and I knew everything about her. And...

She knew a lot about me. The one you have spoken to is Miriam? With Marian, yes. Sorry, with Marian. You have spoken to her?

I spoke to her the first time I saw her. And...

And that's it.

What did she say?

Was she drunk?

I don't remember. We think it was a psychotic outburst.

But you had it planned.

Yes, not to that extent.

But to hurt you in some way. Yes. Where did you get the knife from? From the kitchen of the house. There were two, in fact. And did you see messages or did you find out about something? How did they planned this?

They planned it in person, them in the apartment before I arrived. Because, in fact, Marianne didn't even know about my, I mean, she did know about my existence, but not that I had anything to do with Jose.

I thought that she was the one who had something with Jose, Aitzane. So, she, to get out of this, she blames me. Let's see, explain to me, because you made a triangle that's kind of complicated.

Aitzane likes Jose. Me too. And I was always looking for him and trying to find a way to be with him. Did you know that she liked Jose? Well, she never said it directly or accepted it, but her actions showed me that she did. And that's why you didn't tell her that you were dating him. Exactly.

Marianne already had this suspicion, and that day they meet to talk. And when Marianne asks her if she has anything to do with her ex-boyfriend, she says no, that it's me. And then she starts to get all worked up with lies. Because everything was a lie, because she didn't even know if we were dating, Mm. It was something very, very recent. And so, to justify herself in front of her other friend, she tells her that it's you who's dating him.

Yes.

And you're still with Jose.

Yes.

And how has he behaved? And how have these months been? Because, if he're not the culprit, you're the one responsible for this.

The truth is that I've been doing amazing. I haven't left for a single minute. I've always been there, supporting me in everything I do. All the time, every day in the hospital. In fact, outside of my family, he was the only person who could go to intensive care to see me. I've always been there.

And the truth is that I don't think I'm responsible or that I'm the culprit for what happened. Yes, no, no, no.

I mean, I don't think that at all, from any point of view...

I mean that he's a bit the focus of the problem, right? Well... But obviously that's why I said, not the culprit, but the discord between all women and friends. Yes. But it has been very nice, really. And what do you feel? Do you feel anger? Do you feel anger? I mean, it's good that you've been working on overcoming this episode, right?

Because it was an episode that scandalized us all. I imagine your family, right? How you've had to move, to live, to overcome, etc.? Don't you feel anger and anger?

Well, if I'm being honest, I have more anger towards Itzane. Because she was my friend. I mean, I was always, I was always there for her, she was always there for me. She was the one who invited me to her house. She was the one who insisted that I go.

She was the one who encouraged you to meet her.

Yes.

The fact that she was my friend and put me in this situation...

That in any case, she's an accomplice. I think they both have the same responsibility.

Yes.

I mean, one was the material author, but... How much time has passed since she arrived but how long did it take for her to get there and then for you to see her lying in bed? Do you have any idea?

Like, between 5 and 10 minutes.

And what do you remember?

Do you remember this woman, this young woman? She's also inexplicable, a young girl. What do you remember about this woman, this young woman? She was also inexplicable. What do you remember? How did she attack you? Did she scream at you?

Did she say anything? She told me, that's what happens to you for messing with my man. I told her I wasn't with him. So he could leave me alone.

And...

Well, nothing changed.

And did you cry and tell him to leave you alone? Or was it so shocking that you didn't cry? I didn't even cry?

I didn't cry. I didn't cry, but I kept... I kept telling her to leave me.

And Tania was standing there doing nothing. Watching the whole scene.

But I don't consider that she was in shock. Because I saw her. And she looked calm. Normal.

As if she was watching a movie. Yes, even enjoying the scene, what a terrible thing. The main character is sentenced, she paid a fine,

it's a minor fine because he was a minor. What would you like to happen from now on, in legal terms, for both of you and in your life? I would like the other person to accept their guilt and responsibility. Because they refuse to accept it. And Marianne already accepted her guilt and is sentenced. But she still doesn't accept it. And she still says he's innocent.

And what I want, what I'm looking for is for him to accept that he was also part of it and that he's responsible. Said by the aggressor herself. Yes. Said by the intellectual author herself. But also, with your story, we realize that it's quite obvious. You are called in the department, you go to the bathroom, you leave the bathroom,

she's already there, and she starts attacking you. Yes. And you saw that I sent her a message.

Yes.

Who takes the picture when you when you were in the ambulance?

Yes, Jose took it.

Jose took it.

Jose accompanied me in the ambulance.

And Jose took it.

He took it to send it to my dad. I never sent it to my dad because he asked him if I was in a lot of pain. He asked if I needed to take clothes to the hospital in case I was going to stay for a night. My parents thought it was a fight or something not so serious. So Jose takes the photo and stops for a couple of seconds to think about how he's going to send this to her dad who's running the hospital. So she never sent that picture, but it stayed there.

I see. There's an audio, right? Where this best friend of yours, Aysane, insists that you go to the apartment, that there was a meeting, a party? What was it?

No, just, I mean, we were going, like his mom was always traveling outside the apartment. Did you spend a lot of time there? We went a lot of time because his parents weren't there. And it wasn't a party or anything, or a meeting. I mean, we just got together to talk.

It wasn't a big party. And that time he called me to tell me he had something very important to tell me. And that it could only be in person. And I said, well, it must be something serious. And the next day was my first day at college. So I told him, there's no way I'm going.

I can't go. Because it was already late. It was already like 7. And I was going and coming back. I couldn't do that. My dad also told me I couldn't.

And then he convinced me. And at first he asked me to go without Jose. And I told him, the only person who can take me right now is Jose. I mean, I can't go without him. And he told me, well, I'll leave you here and you can go. And I told him, well, he's not my driver.

I mean, he can't to do something, whatever. And I said, oh, well, that's fine. And he really didn't want to tell me anything. You told him you had to tell me?

And he said, no.

Yes. When we were in the bathroom, I said, well, tell me.

What happened? And he said he wanted to ask you if you were with Jose., I asked him what happened. He said he wanted to ask if I was with Jose. I said no, I'm not with him. I mean, it's not related. I started to suspect. I didn't know if he was recording me or if someone was listening.

I asked him, but you told me that Jose was talking to you. And then he started to get very nervous. He said, of course not, I never said that. Of course not. And then I realized that there was something strange. And right at that moment I read the message and we went to the bathroom.

And the attack begins. Yes. It was a brutal attack. You have these audios, you have evidence. What do you want to do in legal terms, Valentina? Well, I just want her to accept her responsibility

and that she has to proceed as she has to.

And that's it.

And is there a complaint about this? Have you filed a case against this friend? Yes. And that's what you want? And you're going to continue proceeding legally?

Yes.

And how have you recomposed your life since then? What have you been doing? You are a model. What have you been doing? Well, right now, on September 13th I have a show at Fashion Week in New York. Ah, that's great. Little by little I've been recovering. I I was in college studying gastronomy.

Then I left and now I'm going to start at the hospital in January.

You were studying gastronomy?

Yes.

And now you're at the hospital?

Yes. I always wanted something related to... I started in gastronomy because I needed to do something and stay in motion. But I knew it wasn't something that would be permanent or that would last forever. So now I feel ready because I've always wanted something in the health field. And yes, I'm going to do nursing.

Have you already started? No, I en enero. Ah, empiezas en enero. Y ahora te vas a Nueva York, al Fashion Week, con algún diseñador o?

No sé si puedo decir eso todavía.

Ah. Ah.

Ah.

Un diseñador mexicano?

No.

No.

Ah, si cuentan o no. Ya les contaré. Ya nos contarás. Oye, este... No. No. Ah, yes, tell us, no? I'll tell you. You'll tell us. Listen, there's a video, they're telling me, that went viral, in which someone claimed to have bought a house in Cancun. It says, they gave us the house, we went to a garden, etc.

And days later, the creator of the content, Ricardo Ponce, I remember he published a video, because it didn't come out, the algorithm put it on you, saying that this house, supposedly new, was his house. What do you know about this young woman?

Well, she's always had a tendency to lie a little. She's always lived in this bubble where he creates his life.

We're talking about Marianne right now.

Yes, which is not real. I mean, he always pretended things were not true, or that he bought a house, that he had a lot of money,

that he had the perfect relationship, and it wasn't like that.

So he's always had this tendency to lie. the perfect relationship and it wasn't like that. So he's always had this tendency to lie.

And does Jose still have some kind of relationship with her? As far as I know, no. I don't know if I'm being cordial or not. I mean, I guess there's a lot of anger, right?

Well, for now, as far as I know, no.

Because it was also known that she had a daughter, Jose's daughter, who I don't want to talk about because it's not my interest. The girl, but she's the girl's father. That's why I'm asking if they're still in some kind of relationship

or...

or...

or something.

As far as I know, not at the moment. Um... He's allowed Marian to see the baby...

for a while, when he has asked, but they don't have much contact, to be honest. I see. How are your parents? I imagine they haven't had a nightmare with you.

Wow.

Well, they're also working on that.

I mean, for my parents it's very complicated. I go with a friend and come back. I mean, they also have a lot left... I mean, this is very recorded. Beyond... the physical damage. I mean, like...

I mean, they don't want me to trust anyone. Because, well, precisely... I mean, I think I'm a person who usually trusts a lot. And I'm a person who trusts a lot.

And I'm that person who loves a lot and I talk a lot and I trust people a lot. And I think being so open to all this has led me me problems. You learn with the years, but you're still very young. How old are you? 19.

19 years old. You're still very young, really. Hey, and... Do you live with your parents? With my mom. With your parents? With my mom. With your mom. And my sister.

You've always lived with them? With your mother and your sister? Yes.

With them? Yes. Sometimes I would go half the year with my dad, half the year with my mom. Depending. But right now I'm living with them.

But you didn't live alone, or much less.

No.

What do your parents say about your relationship with Jose right now?

Well, the truth is... At first, it wasn't his best plan. Because my parents thought that I was still at risk when I was with him. But after a while...

They understood that I was out of danger. Mm-hmm. It's complicated to accept all this and everything that comes with being with Jose.

But yes, he is well received in my house.

Because also, what you are telling me is that you have a certain tendency, Marian, to lie.

You also said at some point that Jose mist She also said that Jose was mistreating her. That Jose was hitting her. And then she said it was a social experiment.

With you, what you have seen and lived with Jose is...

I would be incapable. Incapable. I mean, there is no human way that Jose to do something like that. Never. Not even with the greatest courage in the world. Never.

You're too young for me to ask you a question about if you see a future with Jose. I don't know. But I don't know if you've thought about it.

Well, I'd hope so. I'd really hope so. I would hope so. I can't say that there is a plan for the future. Because there is not yet. We are still very young. How old is he?

He is also 19.

Very young.

Yes.

But I hope so. I am very happy and calm. And I've always been a very caring person. So I'd like this to go beyond that.

How many surgeries did you have to have, Valentina?

I had surgery on my hand, but I had many other surgical procedures. Valentina. to the pericardium, which is the bag that holds the heart, because my pericardium was perforated, so blood was coming in, but it couldn't come out. I don't know, it only came in. So it was filling up with blood, and my heart couldn't beat because it didn't have space. So, literally, my heart was stopping beating.

So they had to put this needle in to take the blood out.

And on top of that, I have two heart anomalies. They had to put this needle in me to take the blood out.

And I also have two heart anomalies. So it was even more complicated because... You were born with them. They had to do it with ultrasound. And normally it's done like this, over the top. But they couldn't do it with me.

So a lot of things got complicated. I also had two... I mean, I had bilateral pleural tubes, which are two tubes in the lungs. I had one tube on this side and another on this side, with two boxes that pulled the blood from my lungs. I had hemoneumothorax. I had air and blood inside my lungs.

I mean, air that shouldn't be there. And what they did in these tubes was to put a tube I had air and blood inside my lungs. I mean, air that shouldn't be there. And what these machines did was take out everything that was inside, that shouldn't be there. And I had it for 14 days. I couldn't move.

I mean, it was an open wound with a tube. I mean, nothing else. I mean, I could pull the tube and the tube come out and I could push it and it would get in. It was a tube inside of me, through my skin, my ribs, my muscle, my lung.

It went through you?

Yes.

And I couldn't move by myself. I couldn't go to the bathroom by myself. I had to call the nurse to come. I had all the machines with the medicines. I had one on each side and a box on each side. So, to go to the bathroom, I had to put all the machines, take them, untangle all the cables and tubes.

And to take a shower, I had to take all the machines.

Yes, it, yes. It was horrible. A nightmare. What episode, the truth, was the most difficult for you? Being so young, really. And you're still going to therapy. Yes. And how has your convalescence been?

Are you still in some kind of recovery therapy or anything?

Yes, I'm going to therapy with a psychologist specializing in trauma, for aggression. And I see him once a week. And the truth is that it has worked for me a lot. A lot. And yes, I mean, every time I'm progressing, the truth is that it has worked for me a lot. A lot. And yes, I mean, every time I do progress. You feel better? Yes, yes, I feel much better.

And your health? How is it? I mean, are you okay? Or do you still have to do some kind of exercise? Your mobility in the hand, everything okay?

Well, it's the last thing I need to recover. I don't know if I'm going to recover. I was hoping I would, but now I don't. I mean, for example, I can move my fingers, but I can't close my hand. No.

There are certain things that I can't do. I don't have as much strength in this hand either.

Uh-huh.

Right now my rehabilitation has been paused for some economic reasons,

but I'm going to resume it soon.

Yeah.

Because if I don't go, I'm not going to recover. Of course. You're still going to therapy, your weekly therapy and all that.

Yes.

Well, I don't know. It's good to see you, and to see you well.

Thank you very much.

I was asking you if you were crying at the time of the attack, but you had time to cry and... I don't know, to digest what happened to you, what they did to you. Because it wasn't an accident, it was a terrible assault.

If I tell you the truth, I hadn't cried until the day of Marian's hearing. And she apologized. I want to cry again, but... I hadn't cried until that moment. Seeing the person who attacked me apologize to me was something that never crossed my mind.

I never imagined... I never had a grudge against her. Ever since I woke up, I was never angry with her. I mean... I always...

I don't know, my family was always very angry with her and everything, and... And I told them I didn't hate her. I'm not angry with her. I feel bad. Because she lost a lot of things. And she made life difficult for a lot of other people.

That for her, were probably important. So, more than being mad, I felt bad for her.

You felt sorry for her? And today, seven months later...

I still think the same. That she destroyed many of the good things I had. And yes, I feel bad for her. I'm not angry or anything.

It's just...

It's sad to think how someone can ruin their life so quickly. And the life of many other people.

And that she was about to kill you. You thought you could die.

Yes. Yes, when I was in the ambulance... It's just... it's very strange. Because I think, in my head I think I know what it feels like... to be dying. Because when I was in the ambulance...

all I thought think about was... I don't feel anything. I don't know how to explain it, but I could feel my mind. I could feel my thoughts. It was all I could feel. As if I could feel my brain.

But you didn't have any sensibility, or pain... I didn't feel anything in my body. I just thought, don't fall asleep, don't fall asleep, don't fall asleep. And I thought that she was going to be my sister. That she was going to be my sister without me. And I think that... I was able to hold on to the idea that my sister couldn't be alone.

That's what brought me to stay here. Well, the truth is, Valentina, all my admiration, really. My admiration, because she have moved forward emotionally, physically, your health, you have resumed your life. How cool that you are going to New York now. Because for many other young people it could have been a different story. Sure.

A different story. And the fact that you don't feel resentment. I mean, now you tell me, I feel much more anger with this other friend. Because she did say she was my best friend. And obviously, they set you up. They set you up.

And when she... Marianne apologizes to you, you tell me it was the first time you cried. Did you feel like she genuinely apologized to you? Well, I don't know her very well. But... Genuinely? a moment... that I never thought I would live, but that I was unconsciously waiting for a long time.

And seeing her, I think, regretful, gave me a little more...

tranquility. And not for her, but for me.

Did you feel better after that moment?

Well, yes. I think it was the least I could expect.

Were your parents satisfied with how the matter was resolved legally?

Yes.

Thank you.

Were they agree? Yes. Did they advise you? Did they say, we're going to end this?

Yes. From the beginning, I wanted it to end. From the beginning, since I was in the hospital, before I met Ayrton, I said, I want to get out of here. To your current lawyer. to meet Ayrton. I was like, I want to get out of here.

And let it all end.

Yes, I want it all to end. I don't want to know anything about anyone. I want to get out and make my life as if nothing had happened. Which obviously wasn't going to happen. But I was like, I don't care. I don't want to know, I don't want to know, I don't want to know.

I want this to end. And they found a way to make it as short a time as possible.

Well, that's good. But the process continues. She continues with her process and your legal process continues because there is another complaint. To this other young woman, who is also underage, She is already older. She is already older, and she does not accept her guilt. Yes.

And can it be proven that she had anything to do with the matter? Yes. I congratulate you again. You're back on social media again. People are talking about you.

You were very active on social media before this episode? The truth is that I've had a lot of support lately. It's a lot more people who support me than people who tell me bad things. And it's super nice. And yesterday I made the decision that I'm going to start a project in which I have a lot of voice and visibility. And I want to help other people, not just women,

who have not been so viral or not known so much,

to have the opportunity to talk about what they have experienced. And this project is already underway, you already know how you're going to do it.

I'm going.

There you go.

Yes.

Did it affect you that there were people who would throw you off in social media?

No.

Well, by the way, no one, absolutely no one deserves this. Absolutely no one. And again, and I was saying it yesterday, with all the proportions saved, but on social media, everyone believes in the authority to judge

and be a judge and be a party and be a justice. No one, absolutely no one deserves this of being a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge, a judge and that you are recovered. But I insist, many young people don't run with the same luck. I know. And they can't come here to tell. So, no one deserves an attack like this. I congratulate you and I'm glad to see you and I wish you good luck, success. Thank you very much.

And we will surely be seeing seeing you in New York at the Fashion Week. We will be seeing you on social media. I am very grateful for the confidence that you have come here to talk about it and share it. I guess it is also part of healing and healing yourself. I don't know what to say to your therapist, but to talk about it and share it and be heard should be part of your own healing and healing. Yes, thank you very much for the space and the opportunity.

On the contrary, thank you for choosing this space. Thank you very much. And you have all our support. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.