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Today, we're back again, Dr. Gia.

Hi, Bang Radit. We met for the first time. But Dr. Gia is very happy.

I just left the meeting room.

Wow, you're very cheerful.

I'm very cheerful too. Because I have a friend. The initials are DRT Irta. The initials are DRT Irta. I have a friend, and he said, the team that I support usually loses.

Finally, we shook hands and said, okay, when we were shooting, after that, EMU will fight Aston Villa. EMU really likes Aston Villa. Okay, then we prove it. Am I right, Bossyal?

I will support EMU against Aston Villa. And it turns out... It turns out... He won. How many? 31.

31 against Aston Villa. DRT Irta. Listen to DRT Irta. Now, Radit, imagine the feeling of Dr. Tirta. Radit has a favorite team that is chasing the fourth place to the Champions League zone. Against a team that is fighting the fourth place to the Champions League. The opponent is a team that is fighting for the lower ranks.

Asafilla is the lower ranks? No, the opponent is a team that is fighting for the lower ranks. Who is the opponent? Tottenham.

Tottenham, yes.

Radit scored the first goal, he was so happy. But in the last minute, I don't know why, Tim suddenly got a sprain. How did you feel, Radit? That's what Dr. Tirta felt. Yes, that's what he felt.

And his rival also won.

And he was the third, right?

Yes, third. Liverpool, don't ask. But that's a miracle, Emy. It's a miracle. Because the plating was removed, right? After I changed the plating, I was like, wow, the point is only one time.

That's so cool. But that's because the carriage was removed, right? Yes. Not found, right? Not found.

Well, there's actually available carriages. I just used the carriages. Affiliable, right? Carry, just use it first. Will you be annoyed if it's replaced by another trainer? Yes, but I was like Deja Vu, I was also like that.

Oh yeah?

Yes, I was also like that, legendary, then I was promoted, suddenly the MU is good, but when I was promoted to be a real manager, why is the MU bad? So this is happy, but just normal? I was like, why did I have this kind of experience in Deja Vu? Okay, today we're going to start with how the body works. That's it. Because I think a lot of people are more aware about cancer. They want to check up, they want to know.

But actually what I want to know is...

What's the matter? What is cancer? That's why we need to discuss it, Bang. So that many people know. Okay, from Dr. Gia himself, the simplest explanation about cancer is actually what?

I start from the way our body works first. Bang Radit, can you imagine there is a small ant, but in a very large field, there's nothing, it's empty. The ant doesn't have consciousness, doesn't have a desire, doesn't have enough ability to do anything. But try to imagine, Radit, imagine there are tens of trillions of ants in that field.

I don't know why, suddenly the ants immediately divide their tasks. Some make nests, some protect the queen, some attacked other colonies. Some were looking for food. They didn't talk, but they communicated with each other. Even if Radit watches the video, there is a migratory ant. There is a guardian of the ant, standing quietly on the side of the road to guard his friends.

Who told him to be quiet? How could it be? That's a mosquito. Now with the same analogy, I ask you to imagine, Mr. Radit, one human cell, one cell with one DNA, one cell.

Do you have the ability? No. Will, desire, consciousness, you don't have one cell. But it's a different story if there are tens of trillions of cells. Suddenly, there are people of trillions of cells in one. Suddenly, they are divided into tasks. Some are specialized in hands, muscles, legs, soles for storing food, eyes, brain.

With their own functions and tasks. How can they do all that? Because it turns out that in the cell's core, there is DNA. DNA is actually a biological cell contract. It is defined there, how old it is, what its task is, how long it lives. It's in the DNA.

Okay, the blueprint. The blueprint is there. That's why there is not a single cell of Radit's body that is the same age as Radit. Because there is no such body that are older than us now.

What do you mean?

Red blood cells only 120 days. White blood cells only 4 days. They die, new cells regenerate. Skin cells are also the same, every 28 days. Heart cells all die continuously. And regenerate continuously, bro.

Okay, so every day there are some that die, some that live. Some die, some grow again. Then the patient asks, where is my dead cell? That's your hair. Hair is a dead cell, bro. The roots of the hair are living cells. It separates itself, dies, rises up, stretches, stretches, stretches.

That's a dead cell. Oh, this is a dead cell? That's why it's cut, does it hurt? No, but if you pull it out, it hurts. Because the cells are in the roots of the hair. I see. The nails are the same. The nails are long.

What do we cut? The skin cells die. The roots of the cells. And we keep on... Without Radit knowing, we've been talking for a while, tens of millions of Radit's cells have died.

But at the same time, tens of millions of new cells are regenerated. Okay. The point is, every day, the cells always separate. Regenerate.

Regenerate.

Die, regenerate. Okay. That's it. The cancer? Now what happens if the cell refuses the biological contract? It should die, it rebels, it's rebellious. No, I don't want to. I don't want to die. he should die. He's a rebel, a rebel.

No, I don't want to.

I don't want to die.

You should die. I don't want to. You should die. I don't want to.

I don't want to.

Usually, if you don't want to die, what do you do? There's a team of white blood cells, we call it Leukocyte, it's called NK cells, natural killer cells. I'm sorry, no hard feeling, no hard... The cell was stabbed by him. He was killed. He was killed by... He didn't want to die alone, right? I'm the one who killed you.

And that's when we work as functional, the cancer cells that started to appear, were killed by our leukocyte cells. It means that the cancer cells are the cells that refuse to die. The cells that refuse to die and eventually plund away other people's resources. And it's growing violently, spreading everywhere, taking advantage of it.

Because if the cells that don't want to die grow again,

because the cells will always grow, right?

Yes, of course. And it doesn't die, the longer it takes, the more. Yes, and it spreads. For example, the lung cells that refuse to die, it's called lung cancer. The brain cells that refuse to die. It's called lung cancer. The brain cells that refuse to die, brain cancer.

The white blood cells that refuse to die, cancer. White blood cells are called leukemia. Is there a mammal that never dies because of cancer?

If it's Mr. Lia, maybe there is.

Mammalia, Mr. Lia, there isak Lia, you're so funny. Mama Lia who never died of cancer. If you see a dog with cancer, you've seen it, right? There's a tumor, I've seen it. What's the difference between a tumor and a cancer? Isn't a tumor violent?

Yes, it's different from the shape. If it's a tumor, it looks like a capsule. So it's limited. The limit is firm. If it's cancer, Raditya will be a star. I was born on August 31st, Virgo. What was Raditya's birthday? I forgot.

Capricorn.

Oh, like my wife. My wife's birthday is January 11th.

Capricorn.

Really? But I love her.

Everyone says Capricorn is annoying.

Is Fitri annoying?

No.

But it's suitable for Virgo. What's Anissa? Anissa... Aries. Oh, yes. They always fight.

They always fight.

What about cancer? There's a cancer star, right?

What's the animal?

Crane.

So, the cancer is like that. There are fingers, body, and veins. That's why it's different if the tumor is removed, it's over. If the cancer is removed, it's not over. The leg is still left there. And it can grow again, bro.

So, physiologically, we can see the difference between the tumor and the cancer?

Very clear. The difference is in... If the limit is firm, there is a tumor capsule. And I often have a lung tumor, it's already lifted, for example, the tumor is lifted, is it spread?

No, but it's different from lung cancer. It's a different story. Then what about cancer? Can you imagine the difficulty? What are the options if we face cancer? The best thing is to know from the first stadium.

It's much more likely to cure. The life expectancy for recovery is very high in the first stadium.

But what kind of screening can we do? There is. There is. There is. For prostate cancer, there is. For colon cancer, there is.

Check the enzyme.

Oh.

There is. From blood test, we can know.

We can check the blood. Okay. Then, what do we do if we find cancer, for example. But the degree is quite high. There are many options. Okay, surgery. Do a surgery.

Have you heard of radiotherapy? Yes, that's my friend. He was shot, shot quite large to destroy the cancer cells. There is also chemotherapy.

Yes.

Including a chemical substance that destroys the cancer. But, that's a very thin line. If Raditya becomes a disease, but also a scene. If Radit becomes a doctor, he will be confused. If he faces a monster called cancer, he will be surrounded by normal people. The normal cells will be surrounded by people.

If Radit shoots fast, the surrounding cells will die. That's why he got a hair loss hair loss, vomiting after the therapy. Because you took all the drugs. Yes. But if I took the small dose or the small dose, the cancer will just smile.

That's what makes it hard.

That's why the therapy is so hard. There's no specific medicine. Maybe the cancer is a bacterial, sugar, etc. We is a bacteria, it's a sugar and so on.

We make it hungry, it's hungry. But all cells are hungry, right? That's why, right? So we play with the health cells, how we can make it strong... ...while decreasing the strength of the cancer. But is it true that it's because of bad luck?

Because in Guardian, there was an article... ...scientists were studying cancer. The conclusion is bad luck. Because in Guardian, there was an article, scientists were researching cancer, the conclusion was bad luck.

Yes, that's true.

There's always that. That's why I can say, if the cells we were united like this, it means that we are actually a country of Republic Cell Union.

Right?

Our bodies are constantly changing. But our bodies are still the same. Like NKRI in 1945 and NKRI in 2025, the NKRI is the same. 99% of the population is different.

Okay.

Is there still Bung Karno? No. Is there still Bung Hatta? No.

Okay.

Tan Malaka? No. There are many who are gone. But the country is still there. NKRI. Our bodies are the same. The cells are constantly changing. If you know that our cells are constantly dying and regenerating, where do we get the healthy cells, the solid ingredients for cell regeneration? From whatever we put in our mouths.

So, whatever we put in our mouths becomes crucial. Because it becomes the next solid ingredient.

Maybe that's why there are some... Possible, enable. We focus on the tongue, for example. The rest of the body doesn't want to, doesn't like it.

I see.

Finally, like that. Then I can say this sentence is true, bro. You are what you eat, right? Whatever we eat becomes us. And the sad thing is, the more I think about it, are what you eat. And I wrote again, how can people with the same appearance one is cancer and the other is not. And then the article came out.

Cancer is just bad luck. Or a bad lottery. Or I want to be more positive, I don't like to say bad lottery. I say, the person who suffers from cancer is the chosen person. The one who is chosen to get this. And you happen to get this.

But there are also those who are infected by HPV.

HPV is a type of cervical infection. It can be prevented. Just don't let the virus be there. With the vaccine, right? With the vaccine.

One word for people who refuse HPV vaccine.

Don't ask for it. It's enough for you. Because it can be prevented. It can be prevented.

Using vaccines, right?

That's why it's so sad. Okay, there was a story about the cells that regenerate the fastest are the skin cells. Yes, our body cells have different regenerations. The heart cells, we discussed it yesterday, the heart cells have a very good regeneration. But the skin cells are also really good. The skin cells that I often see, the regeneration is clear,

when I tear, hurt, and sew, the regeneration looks good. Three days later, seven days later, it's dry, it's good.

Those are all new skin cells.

Is there a story about the skin? Yes, yes. Okay. Dr. G, do you have a story about skin? Yes. Well, that's why, because skin is actually our separation from the universe, what we see is skin. People see our skin.

Okay.

Not our bones, right? No one sees our hearts, no one sees our lungs. What we see is skin. What covers our bodies. Well, there's a story. There were 50-year-old women who came to me alone.

There was no one else. She came with big, cold sweat... ...and her chest was twitching to the left. I had memorized that. Those two were the symptoms of a heart attack.

When he came to the hospital,

I checked his heart and he said, it's possible that he had a heart attack.

I said, no.

He said, why are you so loud? I said, I don't have a heart attack. I don't have a heart attack. I can't have a heart attack. I don't smoke. That's what he said. I asked him, can I don't smoke. I said, can I take a break?

No, this is not a heart attack. Please give me some painkillers. I was like, why do I have to use painkillers? Then, I only had 90 minutes. Because if a heart attack is over 90 minutes, and then it's taken, the outcome is very different from a patient above 90 minutes, and then it's just been acted on, the outcome is very different from the patient who is below 90 minutes.

Then he looked at the nurses around me. I said, I want to talk to this woman. What's wrong with you? Immediately rejected my diagnosis. I haven't checked it yet. I just want to check it, I just want to make sure.

Why did you reject it? No, it's not like that. This is the result of my karma, Doc. That's what he said.

Karma.

And then, Doc,

I don't know how many women I've hurt, Doc.

Wow.

Ma'am, who did you hurt? Doc, actually I've put some tools in my chest. Oh, what tools, Ma'am? Because of these tools, I managed to steal many husbands. So, it turns out that you're Annie's ex-wife, Bang. Right? So he felt that the tool he put in his chest made him so confident,

he was so proud, all the men he approached, no one could refuse him. And he felt that all the men were attracted to him. Like there was a...

A milk. He put milk.

Yes, he said it was a ritual to put it in his chest. Was he Iron Man?

It's on. Yes, it's a ritual to put it in the breast. Is he Iron Man?

It's on.

There's still a tool, doc. And I've been told by the person who installed the tool to my body. He said, the mother will receive the consequences later at the age of 50. That's why he believes it. That's why he believes that I'm sick.

Because it hurts to believe it.

At that time, to pay my karma. Because I was hurting many women that her husband was fighting for.

Even though clinically, it was a heart attack. Yes, it was a heart attack. But I didn't want to deny it. I just wanted to help her. And then? Then I said, Ma'am, can I have a Ronsen?

I want to know the's in your breast. I want to see it.

Here, here. This is your Ronsen.

How old is this? A few years ago.

Oh, wow.

Why, Fit? Where did you buy it?

You said it was imported.

Oh, no.

You bought it from abroad.

Where did you buy it? No? I thought you buy the milk? No?

I thought you were asking about that. Bro, she put it in... Oh, wow. Can you see it? It looks like a researcher. And one more here.

On the left shoulder.

Oh, yeah.

In the room?

Four of them, bro. One, two, three, four. I looked at it and it's not that big. So, I was confident that I could save this mother. But it's not because of this. Yes, of course.

It's because of that.

So, it's a real heart attack, right? It's a real heart attack. Then I told my mother, Mom, trust me. Whatever the smart people who can tell you that it's because of your karma, the second smart person will say,

no, it's not because of that. Let this second smart person help you. I want to help you. Can you trust me? Then he was silent. Okay, doc.

He said, I want to record your heart. I checked the heart's heart rate. It's all up. His legs are also messed up. She was taken care of, and she's recovered now. And she doesn't believe in breastfeeding anymore? And she allowed me to tell this story,

because she asked me not to be a nanny.

Oh, that's all the moral message?

Okay, that's good. Because as young as the wife is,

one day she will be old too. As young as the wife is, she will have a heart attack too. And do you know why? Why do men have a heart attack at the productive age? Why do women have it at the retirement age?

Okay, why?

There's already an answer. Estrogen. So, estrogen hormone protects the walls of the human's internal organs. When they're on menopause, they can use it. Because we have a little estrogen, right? That's why we can't cry. So, women are like us.

There's no more hormone to protect. So, estrogen hormone protects... The endothelium. Endothelium. It protects the endothelium.

So, it's very soft. But I'm curious, why is the life expectancy of men... ...always lower than women?

Yes, because we sometimes make a lot of stupid things.

It's real. It's real.

It's real.

Yeah, if you see it on TikTok, there are a lot of experiments that are not necessary.

It's real.

Don't do it. It's a man. Don't do the experiment. Skin cancer. Which one is more, man or woman? What?

Man or woman?

Man.

Because? Have you ever used sunblock?

Oh, that's right. Outside the room.

Who's the one who goes outside the room? Us.

That's right.

Women, for example, in the office or... Who goes outside, to the sun, because we have a love and hate relationship with the sun, right?

We need the sun, but at the same time, it can also damage.

Oh, wow. So, the formula, but at the same time it can also destroy. Oh, wow.

So, the milk, he said, he was in his 20s, he was so confident. He said, don't be weird, because his sugar daddy, he was in his 20s, his sugar daddy was in his 50s. Sugar daddy. When he was 55, how old was his sugar daddy?

He was already a bitter daddy.

He was a sugar daddy.

He was a sugar daddy. He was a sweet daddy.

He was a sweet daddy.

He was a sweet daddy. So, he couldn't afford his own life. He had several sugar daddies. So, he felt that there was no better future if he was an ani-ani. He was finally confident because he trusted this second smart person. He didn't trust the first smart person.

He said, you don't have to be a coward. He just realized that his confidence came from the placebo effect.

Oh, the placebo effect.

Actually, it's not from what he planted in his chest. It's from him suddenly feeling confident. Because he believes from there, even though there is no effect.

Even though there is no effect. So what if we take care of our skin properly?

The key to self-confidence is to take care of the skin well. Yes, healthy, bright skin. There are many things we can talk about skin. That's why we will talk to Dr. Arini. Dermatologist. Let's go. Okay, Dr. Arini is here.

Thank you for coming. I want to ask you a lot about...

Skin health.

That's right. Skin care.

Now, guys are interested in skin care Yes, because if we take care of our skin, we will be confident

Yes

I think I will also start skin care Oh, you haven't done it yet?

Oh, really?

Yes, I rarely do it I only follow my wife's advice, whatever my wife applies, I will do it

Really?

You don't go to any clinic? Today, guys, I want this first, guys.

Like this, no. Oh, cool.

I need to take care of my blood and tears, right?

Maybe it's because you're always happy. Yes, because I'm always happy. Dr. Gia is always happy.

Okay.

I can't be mad.

You can't be mad. Give us some tips on how to take care of your skin for men. Let's start with men. First, if we're talking about men, I always highlight that it's important to use whatever is recommended. Use whatever is recommended. Because it's already given, it's never used. If the wife has prepared it, use it.

It's never used. First, use what's already prepared Number one, it's been prepared and used. Now, what is it prepared for? Number one, it's always something for protection. Protection comes first, right? Prevention. So we use sunscreen, we use moisturizer.

So we protect. Now, the poison is prevented first. Because if we don't get the poison, hopefully the skin won't be too damaged. So we have to prevent all of that. So number one is also used.

Now, the most important thing is...

We bought this.

There are only three, actually. The good cleanser, right? Which doesn't damage the skin. The suitable moisturizer. and protect our skin, protect our skin barrier, and sunscreen,

so we don't damage our skin with the sun. The third is the important one, just basic, no need to think about serum first.

Okay, okay.

The doctor is so annoying today.

Just use it, don't ask. Just use it. After the C today. You should just use it. Just use it. I'm so mad. I'm so mad. That's how it is for men. For the phenomenon of healthy skin and the so-called glass skin look,

what's the difference? Is it good or what do you think? The glass skin look and glass skin look is different. But if we want to have a glass skin look, our skin must be healthy first. Okay. Now, there is a phenomenon of glass skin look. What is a glass skin look?

Actually, it's like a glass, right? The surface is smooth, shiny, and reflects light.

Do girls like that?

Yes. They want to be like that, right? Like shining, you know, it's called glowing. Well, basically, if we want the name of Glass Skin Look, what are the conditions now? Well, the condition is that the surface must be smooth, right?

And what makes it not smooth? If it's like this, the surface is shiny, right? Like the iPad, the surface is shiny. Why? Because there is no texture relief. Try it, like a cement. It won't be glass, it won't reflect light.

So the relief must be gone. Minimal pores, minimal wrinkles. So it reflects light. But it's impossible if we have a fever, cough, allergy, all the redness and so on. It won't be a glass skin. So if we want to have a glass skin look, of course our skin must be healthy.

It means we don't have a skin problem. I see. So it's very important that our skin is healthy first. There's no such thing. If we don't want to have any skin problems, we should go back to the previous one. Prevention is very important.

Like using a moisturizer, and the moisturizer must be barrier protection. So that the skin is calm, not easily red, not easily infected, not easily inflamed. That's the story. But it's really trending now.

People want to have a glass skin look.

Many clinics also want to do that. Skin booster is trending in clinics. Some people are talking about the Sultan's Bentol.

Sultan's Bentol?

Have you ever seen it?

Sultan's Bentol?

Yes. I've never seen a sultan with a bunch of moustache. Sultan with a bunch of moustache? Yeah. When I went to the clinic, I had a bunch of moustache on my face. One face.

Oh.

Because I had to inject it one by one. So I could use the skin booster.

We don't understand that. We've been talking about the moisturizer. So the right moisturizer is important. We're having a scientific... I'm curious about this. Scientific... I'm going to ask the doctor. What is this? Scientific PDRN.

What is PDRN? Because there's a big one under the scientific. PDRN, PDRN, PDRN.

It's a reference from Dika Raditya's podcast.

So, PDRN is Polydeoxyribonucleotide. Polydeoxyribonucleotide.

DNA.

Correct.

N is the same as nucleotide, BNA. But poly, it's plural.

Maybe it's cut in pieces.

Correct.

I see. Let's talk. No, I'll go to school first. So, this is what I said before, like Batal Sultan. It's trending now, like skin booster, like Salmon DNA. It's the same as that, but now it's not necessary anymore.

Because now it's not necessary. Because now you can apply it. Because of the advanced technology, the advanced pharmaceuticals now... ...don't need to inject it again. Because now there's a cream version. It's done. What's injected is PDRN.

And now we have PDRN that can make it look like a glass skin. And the base is because the moisturizer is also very important. So it's not just to be injected inside, but it can also be protected from the outside. And why is it true, right? Dr. Ghea said it's like DNA, right? Because the base is actually actually from DNA salmon.

And then it's broken. So, first, the process is broken first, defragmented. After defragmented, it destroys the protein and so on. So, it's like DNA, but it's cut. Why is this so important? Why is it so okay?

I mean, now the original DNA is cut off. Because, as Dr. Ghea said, repair is very important. If our repair cells are damaged, it will form new cells. Where do the new cells come from? Starting from the core nucleus, right? It needs the DNA first.

You know, right?

So, this is a cell, and there's a nucleus. And in the nucleus, there's another DNA. Yes, that's the biological content. In the DNA, even the DNA has to be made first, right? Then it becomes a nucleus, then it becomes a cell. And this is the raw material of the DNA.

Even though salmon can do that? Why salmon is used? Because it turns out that salmon's DNA is the most similar to humans.

Confused? I'm also confused.

Is it the same as salmon?

It's a bit different.

So it's 95% more similar to human DNA. Salmon, I was also surprised. I thought it was more like mammalia. It turns out that salmon is 95% similar to human DNA. So, if it's broken as a raw material, of course, there's a lot we need.

And Bang Dhani must be surprised, who can cut that DNA?

Using what?

Using an engine.

Using an engine.

It can cut it, that's cool.

So this is through the amazing R&D, right? Really. Until you can finally get this PDRN. What was the PDRN? Poly. Oh, poly.

Many, many.

Cut into small pieces.

Deoxyribonucleotide.

It's not a long chain, I mean. Deoxyribonucleotide. Okay.

Oh, this is sodium DNA? Well, sodium DNA is the shape of the PDRN. Okay, I don't understand, but okay. But the point is, like a drug, sometimes it has this shape, that shape. This is like one of the best shapes of the PDRN, which is easier to absorb the body and so on.

Do you know, there are many men who don't know what a moisturizer is? What is it, Dr. Gian? Moisturizer? Moisturizer means moisturizing the skin. Why is the skin not moisturized? It will dry out.

Especially if you don't drink enough, and after the sun, it will dry out. Dry skin makes the fish itchy. And we rub it, the bacteria will come in. That's how it is.

Dr. Gia also takes care of dialysis patients, right?

Dialysis, diabetes, all have similarities. Dry skin, that's why it's itchy.

Especially if you bathe in hot water, it will be even drier and itchier.

I see.

Okay, what is 5000ppm? 5000ppm means there are about 5 grams in 1 ml. So the concentration is is 0.5. But, why is this 5000 ppm good? It means that the concentration is high.

I see.

So, it means that the concentration of the PDRN is quite high. Because the name of the drug also depends on the effectiveness, depends on the concentration, and like feculum, and so on. So, it has a high ability to repair the skin. Because it has a high concentration. There are 3 patent materials.

Simbright Plus, Brighten Neil, Chrono Glow. Those are their patent materials, right? I want to know how to use a good moisturizer? Who knows? I got a boomerang.

Okay.

I'm not going back.

This is very important. Men should know. Men should know. So, imagine this. You're about to use a moisturizer, right? And you want to use your hand to put it on your hand,

and then put it in here. Have you washed your hands yet?

That's right. Borro.

Do you know what that's called? It's like when we... Like French fries with ketchup. It's called double dipping, Jor.

Oh, you've eaten it.

Dip again. Yeah, eat it again. Dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip again, dip Oh yeah, I can do that! I have a T-Fix skin here!

It can match with my skin! This one matches with my blue skin!

Oh yeah, it's obvious, I just guessed.

How do you use it?

Just put it on?

Yeah, so we use it, so if we use moisturizer...

It's so obvious, I've never used moisturizer. Usually, you just... Or you can use your hands, try it. I've never used a moisturizer before Usually you just... Try it on your hand So that you can hold it and spread it on your hand I can do that

But the real thing is on your face

Yeah

Like a moisturizer You can compare it to this What's the difference

And compare it to...

Oh yeah

It's different, right?

Of course it's different

Of course it's different

Maybe it's not the same now

His reaction is so fast

Try to put it on your cheek

Try it, like this But the amount is added a little. Oh, okay, a lot more, right?

Dipi-pi.

Like that?

Yes.

Okay.

It's pretty, right?

Salmon.

Salmon.

Salmon.

So, Sal... The DNA is already in.

The book is also there! The book also wrote about Salmon! That's right, the book is about Salmon. Oh, it's fresh. And it smells good. But choosing a moisturizer should be right. Yes.

It can't be random. It can't be random. What if it's wrong? If we're wrong, the criteria is... Actually,

Juice can do harm more than good. Okay. can do harm more than good. So, we have to protect ourselves. If we want to buy a moisturizer, especially for men, the most important thing is to protect the barrier. Just like what Dr. Ghea said, it's a shield. The name of the product is a shield.

Between the outside world and our body. Do you remember when we were in COVID? We were not infected even if we washed our hands. Do you understand? We can't even touch it when we wash our hands. You know what I mean? It means that the COVID is stuck in our hands, but we don't get COVID. Why? Because this is a very good barrier for our skin. So, we wash our hands, and it's dead.

We don't get it. Try to imagine getting into your lungs. It's impossible, right? The point is that it's a very good barrier. We have to improve the function of the barrier. Why? Like the doctor said,

if we are allergic, we become allergic. If we are irritated, we become irritated. You understand, right? If we have a lot of sweat and so on, clogged pores and so on, we also become acne.

Infection.

Become infection and so on. So we have to make sure that the skin function, which is the skin function to protect ourselves, is good. One of them is just as simple as using a moisturizer, and a good moisturizer that can repair. And also the good thing about this PDRN is that it can reduce inflammation.

So we don't get red easily. Then after that, the skin't get red easily. And then, we can repair our skin by ourselves. You know, my kid, my kid. She got a wound. I told her, don't worry, 2 days is good enough. But, we...

You're a kid, right?

We're just a few months pregnant. Oh, really? Yes. So, when we were born, we had to change our skin every five days.

Yeah.

If you're 90 years old, how many times do you have to change your skin? Three months.

Three months.

90 days. Yeah, it's like 90 days later. So, from five days... Yeah, that's why it's a pity if we protect it. For example, like patients with diabetes and others. The regeneration is longer, right?

So, don't let it get to the point of inflammation, don't let it get to the point of infection, don't let it get to the point of itching. Because if you scratch it, the barrier is broken. So, if we use the moisturizer, it's not itchy anymore. Because if it's moisturizer, it won't make us itchy. Because if it's dry, it's itchy.

Have you ever been abroad and it's dry, right? So, it's itchy. The point is, if we protect it, it won't be itchy. And it won't be easy to get infected, etc. So, men at least. That's the first.

But it's the same at home. It's hard to tell men. Oh, yes. It's the same at home. It's hard to tell guys. Oh, yes. It's the same. My job is like that. So, it's the same with your wife.

True.

So, PDRN. PDRN is also viral, right? Oh, yes. That's what I said. Everyone is like a Sultan. When we go to the clinic, we rarely see them. If we're a female line, they're all...

...big faces.

But now it's not the time.

Oh, it's not the time.

Because of the PDRN. It's a hype right now. It's not like in Korea. It's all from Asia and so on. Even Kim Kardashian and so on... ...are now flying to Asia.

For that?

For the sake of finding Salmon DNA that can make the skin glowing. It was viral yesterday.

Yes, I can imagine.

So, in 2026, there's no Beauty is Pain. Because back then, you can use PDRN. That's right. But, outside, there other place like that? Like, D.N.A Salmon? Oh, in Asia?

Did Kim Kardashian ever come here? No, because she first met him in Asia. So, it's an Asian thing. Asian thing, the first time they met. And then, it became viral in Asia. So, Asia is one of the best regions.

Why? Because Danial Asia was the first. So, it's already in Europe, America, and Australia. But they started late.

I see.

Okay.

Well, for Dr. Ghea, as someone who often goes to the IJD,

for skin diseases, it's probably rare. As someone who often goes to the IGD,

I think it's rare to have skin problems. Or maybe it's because of the sunburn? Oh, yeah, the sunburn. And the skin is also a problem.

But I rarely consult dermatologist in the IGD.

Oh, I think it's impossible.

Oh, I've heard of it.

Steven Johnson syndrome.

What's that?

It's so bad. It's a brutal allergic reaction. Because? So the skin is all cracked. Because of allergy. All the lips. What's the allergy?

Scabies. Have you heard of scabies?

Scabies.

It's itchy.

All over the body. Inside the skin, there are holes. The inside is swollen. I know that. At night. I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, his hair here, here, near the ears. Oh, wow. But in the city, it's quite rare, right?

It's quite rare.

That's it.

That's the skin cases, it's rare, but it's there. I see, I see. Okay, if we want to use a moisturizer, for example, we use Skin Tific, the PDRN, for the frequency, what is the moisturizer? For example, we use Skin Tific PDRN. What is the ideal frequency? Well, for the moisturizer, at least twice a day.

If possible, if we use moisturizer, after we wash our face or take a shower, we use it right away. Then we use it in the first 5 minutes. So because we want to secure the moisturizer inside the skin so that it can track the hydration. So when we wash our face, it's still wet, right? We use the moisturizer to lock in the moisture in the skin. But of course, people are different.

Some have dry skin, some have oily skin. So, the name is twice. But if you have dry skin, some have oily skin. So, the name is twice. But if the skin is dry, it's okay.

Three times.

And people are different. Some work outside, some are constantly air-conditioned. And it's different. Like us, with the same skin, if we are constantly air-conditioned, it's drier. So, it also has to be taken into account. So, there is nothing like frozen.

But, at least twice. Immediately after taking a shower, washing your face. Is there anyone whose skin is so oily that they don't need moisturizer? So, what I said earlier... So oily. So oily.

It's so oily.

Yes, producing oil.

Yes.

Actually, yes. So, the point is that he doesn't use moisturizer, his skin is fine. Why? Because the oil is actually also a protect. But be careful, oil and water are different. We said earlier, for optimal hydration, we need water, we need oil.

Sometimes people have a lot of oil, but less water. So, we call it oily skin type, but dehydrated. So, that's why I said, skin care, moisturizer, it's a combination. There's the oil, there's the water, it's emulsified. So, we still need the water is still there.

So we still need the water content so that it hydrates. It pulls the water inside. So that it's supple, like bouncy. So it's still necessary. What's the difference between oiled glass can and oiled glass can? If the glass can and oiled glass can are a bit different.

Because you can rough texture. For example, we're from, right? But oily, right? If you have acne, usually it's red, oily. But it's not glass. It's just like oil.

Oh, that's really different.

Really different.

It's not like... Oily is not the glass skin look that he meant. If it's like glass, it's rough. But it reflects light.

Right?

It doesn't mean it's a glass, it's a bit rough. But it reflects the light. Right? It doesn't mean it's wet.

That's right.

That's what people call a clear face. Yes, that's what glass skin is. Yes, and then there's the condition of being flawless. That's what I said earlier, if it's flawless, it means there's no flow. If there's no flow, the first problem is there's no skin problem. So, the first thing is how we can prevent skin problems. So that the skin problem happens.

The first thing is to fix the problem, the second is to prevent it. If not, it will come again, allergy, irritation, and acne again. That's what we talked about about cancer, also about prevention. And this is also prevention. We better prevent before there is a problem. True.

True, true, true.

Okay, last one. We started by talking about cancer. Yes. What is the prevalence of skin cancer in Indonesia? So, compared to other countries, for example Australia is the highest. Indonesia is better. But there are a lot of basal skin carcinoma, KSB, it's called.

And then... The type, sir. The type. The type of cancer, right? But there are carcinomas like Sucuamosa, melanoma.

But if the number is compared to other countries, especially the white skin, we are relatively lower. Okay, low risk? Can we say low risk? Because we have a treatment that protects.

Why? Because... Because the customer... Right. Because the customer...

Because of the sun exposure.

Yes. And the customer likes likes to be sunburned. He really likes skin tanning.

So, it's true.

It's true. He's right. He said he's a doctor. Because if it's a girl, she's afraid of the dark. He's using sunblock.

If it's a boy, he's not.

But the darker the skin, the more protective. I just found out. But the darker the skin is, the more protective it is. Why? Because pigments are protective. So it's like sunblock for free.

That's right.

It's protective.

So if we pay attention, if the skin is dark, it's rare to get sunburn. Why? Because pigments prevent it from getting sunburn. Why? Because what makes our skin cancer, especially UVB. So there's UVA and UVB.

And C, UVA, B, C.

And sunburn, we sunburn 5 times, it's twice as prone to skin cancer. Only 5 times. 5 times sunburn. Sunburn is like a burn.

That's what I told you earlier. Oh, how? I went home from Bali, my skin was red. Five times. Five times we sunburn. Sunburn is like... Burned. Red.

That's what I told you.

How?

I went home from Bali, my skin was red.

That's it.

Including sunburn.

One.

One.

Oh my God.

How many times? If you do it five times, it increases the risk of double.

So don't forget. There's sunblock. That's why. There's sunblock. But can we make this skincare for young people? But I think the beauty standard should not only be white. It doesn't have to be white, whatever happens. No, the healthy skin is the healthy one.

The bright one. But actually, for example, we talk about this PDRN. So, she was good for cell regeneration.

Cell regeneration.

He also made cell regeneration for his young age. Because the dead skin cells, the bad ones, he replaced it with the new ones.

Yes, that's right.

So, he can help. That's right. And he's also inspired by fibroblast. So, we're talking about, we're old, we have talk about collagen, and even collagen, elastin, hyaluronic acid. Hyaluronic acid is what makes our skin not dry. So, collagen is not the only important thing.

We've talked about collagen, elastin, hyaluronic acid, and there's only one cell that makes it. It's called fibroblast. The point is, skincare has active ingredient that can increase the product. Fibroblast. One of them is PDRN, it can.

Fibroblast. To increase the collagen and elastin. So it's like multifunction. Okay, so it's the best to use this. I will use it so I can still look young. Great.

Compare me to your friends. They are the same age, but they can look different, right? It depends on what we eat and what we apply to take care of it. It's really impressive. The point is, if people's faces are taken care of, it's visible.

Okay.

What is taken care of is visible. Why do you looking at me? Okay, thank you, doctors, for coming here.

Good luck to everyone. Thank you, Dr. Gia. Good luck to everyone. Thank you, Dr. Gia.

Thank you, everyone.