“MOMMY PINGKAN BUKAN CARI UANG! TAPI CARI VIRAL!”

Yesterday you went viral because of your statement that you were disappointed to see your mom downgrading herself. So, what do you feel?

I'm really sad, actually. I'm not that strong. My mom was like, she was rolling on the street. I really respect my mom.

Very good.

She's great. She's the man of the house. How long have you not talked to your mom? It's been a while. 6 months? I think so. I talked to my mom a few times, but she never listened. She decided to be on her husband's side.

So, in your opinion, if your mom is so desperate to get money or to get attention?

It's viral. But since my mom has a new boyfriend, she's following her new husband's level Why do you say that? He never spend money on my mom My mom also told me

How much is a month It's only 300 thousand With your husband now What do you want to say?

Don't be a pussy I want to give my perfume to you two. I'm a halal smoker. That's why I encourage both of you to find halal money. I have food, but I didn't bring any food because I brought something else. I gave you perfume.

Is that your own brand?

Yes.

Thank you.

Michelle Ashley, we meet for the second time. Last time we did a podcast, how many years ago was it?

I think it was a year ago. More.

Oh, more? More. It's been so long think it's been a year. More than that. Oh, more than that?

More than that.

It's been so long.

It's been so long. And I was so impressed looking at you for the first time again. Thank you. You're more fluent. I'm sorry I can't speak English because you're a GBI. In English, you're a Gen Z.

Because the majority of the audience is Indonesian. And I'm afraid that there's no subtitles. Because we're in a hurry. But, how are you?

I'm fine.

Healthy?

Healthy, I'm healthy too.

Praise God.

Why is your body more flexible now? Because, I think, I was fat yesterday. Yesterday you were a bit chubby, if we say it now. Yes. And now I'm a bit slender. Because you're a bit slender, right? Yes. And I'm thin.

Yes, you're beautiful. Thank you. You were beautiful before, but now you look slimmer.

So, you're thin because you want to lose weight, not because of your thoughts.

I think that's also it.

That's also it. Because usually, mind is the fastest to lower the weight.

That's true.

But since the last time Camille met you, I reckon 2 years ago, more or less, 2 years ago we were in the same studio, what has been updated in your life? What has happened updated in your life? What has been shown?

Actually, not much. Because I'm focusing on myself. I'm not communicating with my mom. Not much. I work a little bit, I was on live before. Oh, really? Yes, yes, yes. I was on live before. But you weren't on the road?

No, I was just driving. But you sang? Maybe, maybe later.

Okay, yes, yes. So, what's this long? If I'm not mistaken, have you ever acted or anything like that?

Oh yes, I did. But maybe it's not the time yet.

Yes.

But hopefully, maybe this year I will.

Yes, finger crossed. I hope there are many opportunities. Here's the thing, Michelle is known not just because of Mam mom is viral, but you can be known through your achievements. Like your mom before, with her gold voice. By the way, straight to the point, yesterday you were viral because of your statement in, story right?

On TikTok. That you revealed your feelings, that you are disappointed to see your mom who in your opinion downgrading herself. This can be true or wrong, because it depends on the point of view of someone who sees. But from the point of view of the child, do you feel that, this is Melanie's challenge, if Melanie is wrong, please correct her.

In your opinion, your mom can still be at this level, but now she's down, do you think that's true?

Yes, that's true.

So what do you feel?

And I think this is actually the first time I've talked again after the video. And then, how to say it, I really care about my mom. I want the best for her. I want the best for her. That's good. I want the best for her.

And also, I want the best for her. So, if I see my mom now, she's just walking around, selling her sadness. I feel really sad. Because, my mom, as far as I know my mom was not like that before. Of course, no. But since my mom has a new boyfriend, I don't know why I'm following my husband's new level.

In your opinion? Yes, that's what I think.

Okay.

And I want to clarify something. Yesterday, I said that I won't invite you to my wedding.

Yes.

Well, I didn't mean to invite you, but... I don't know where you mom and husband were living. Really? Yes, I didn't have any communication with them. That's why I said that. Because there was no conversation at all.

Like, come here, Shel. It's your mom's birthday. Or come here and out with family. I'm really sad that I was misunderstood by netizens.

Because I didn't mean it that way. So, I'm sorry, but there are also people who say, for example, if you want to come to your mom's place for Eid, why do you need an invitation? Just come. What's your response?

I don't know where my mom lives.

Oh, you don't know her address?

Yes, I don't know. Because, you guys know that my mom likes to move around, right? So, I don't know where my mom is now. How long have you been talking to your mom? I did make up with her yesterday. You did?

Yes, I did.

You guys were on TV together, right? Yes, we did make up. But, well, it's normal. Mom and daughter, there's always a problem. I think I've been talking to my mom for a few months. Two months?

No, I think more. It's been a long time.

Six months?

I think so. Wow.

I think so.

So you haven't talked to your mom for 6 months?

Yes.

How do you feel?

Of course I'm sad. But every time I open my heart to my mom, there's always something that disappoints me. Something that makes me down again. I also have to move away first.

Okay.

Because, what is it, it's too much for me.

Okay.

It doesn't mean you hate it, but you choose to keep your mental and heart first.

Yes.

But what do you feel about your mom? Disappointed, angry, or just numb? Numb means it's like, whatever, it's up to you.

Now, I think I'm... What should I say? I don't know how to feel anymore. Because I've been disappointed so many times. So, I can finally be lot. So, I was able to do 6. Wow.

But, Camelani, you also have a son, Chloe. How old is Michelle? She's 20.

20 years old. Chloe is still young, she's 14. But, teenagers like you, Chloe, and many other teenagers, honestly, sometimes, maybe because of hormones and all that, it's a bit annoying. For example, I've never been a mom.

It's easy to be a mom, it's hard. Because we also have a lot of parenting books. But sometimes we also learn. Because we only live once, right? Just once we become a mom. I'm sure your mom must be confused and confused

about the ABG kids now. But that's from us, your mom, from you as a child, what do you want?

But I don't think so.

No?

No, because my mom prioritizes her husband first.

Then her kids.

Yes, that's my feeling.

Has it always been like that?

It has always been like that. My mom always prioritizes her husband first, then her child. That's my feeling. Why do you say that? There must be action that can strengthen your statement.

Because if not, you will be considered subjective.

Why?

What for example? Maybe you can share it. If it's something personal, it's okay. Just keep it for yourself. But what do you feel like, why am I second as a child?

Okay, for example, there were several times I talked to my mom about, I also told my mom, for example, I don't like my new husband. Now? I don't like my new husband. The one now? Yes. Because there are a few things about my husband that I can't really talk about here.

You don't like him?

Yes, I don't like him. And... I understand, it's his life, of course. I can't really control it, because I'm just her daughter. And about her love life, I think it's up to her mother. But as a daughter, I want the best for her mother.

So, I talked to her mother a few times, but she never listened. And she still decided to be on her husband's side.

So, at some point, you crossed paths with your mom's husband?

Yes.

And you felt that your mom always took a side to her husband? And I think that and you feel like she takes her husband's side.

And I think the husband now is just a pimp. And not really sincere to her.

Okay, that's what you feel, right? Yes. It could be true, it could be not, but that's what her son feels.

It should be true.

Why can you say that?

He never spent money on my mom and my family.

But he's so busy with his life, running around, dancing on the street. I think he's doing his work as well.

Yes, he works, but most of his for saving for myself. But like, Mommy also told me how much her husband gave her now. And I heard that like, a month is only 300,000. What Mommy got or were given? Yes, 300,000. Of all the live performances, I was given only 300,000.

Because, Camelani, I just saw, let's try to balance it, because Michelle has been living with you for more than 6 months, and her husband is you. You once gave a statement in a new podcast that she felt her husband could accept her, support her and she could team up with me.

I felt a lot of good things after I married her husband.

While you didn't like him from the beginning or just recently? Actually, from the beginning.

But you tried to...

But I thought, well, what's wrong with giving a second chance? And when I gave a second chance, there was no change at all. And I didn't want to make a problem public. That's why I never speak up about whether I like it or not. It was just yesterday.

Just yesterday.

Why did you... It's true, if you didn't like it from the beginning, it could be a content, you're a netizen, you want to know, but why after all this time, just yesterday, you burst through the TikTok statement?

Because yesterday was Eid, and I think it's a very important day for the family. And as a child, I expected that, invite me, invite me, because I don't know where they are.

And I was like, I was so confused, where do I want to go?

Yes, yes.

Yes. So actually you feel like left behind, you feel like you want to gather, we are one family. Yes. Do you have a longing. Do you miss your mom? Of course. I'm the type of person who's hard to tell my feelings.

But deep down inside, I miss my mom. I want to be one again. I want everyone to be one again. But maybe it's not the right time. Maybe the timing is not right.

Yes, but you still have to respect your mom. Because that's God's will. You have to always honor, not respect. Because respect is earned. Sometimes parents, we can't always respect them. There are also parents who are really hard.

They want to make us angry and disappointed. But God said, honor. Respect your parents so that they will bless your life. That's God's command. Whatever I do, even if Michelle feels less disappointed, sad, and all that, I can say it but I still have to respect her because she is your mother that God chose.

Of course.

Right?

I really respect my mom.

Very good.

She's a really strong woman, hard worker very much. And then my mom is like, she's the man of the house. And I'm really proud of her. I'm proud of her. But there are a few things. You're a coward, right? Yes, I'm so stubborn.

And if you're in love, it's hard to tell what it is. Because we don't feel what she feels. Anyway, if you look at it from the perspective of a 20-year-old child, we, netizens, are pros and cons. Seeing your mom on the street, some feel sorry for her, some feel, what should I do to make her on the street, some feel sorry for you, some feel like why do you have to be on the street?

Why? Because actually many netizens are also sure that Pinkan still has a chance, there are many other platforms like can be on stage, still can. Still, still a lot.

If you, in your social life, see your mom live tiktok on the street and rolling on the street,

what do you feel?

Actually, I feel more like, I feel more sorry. Poor thing. I feel sorry, I'm not really confident that my mom is like... ...she's like rolling on the street.

I'm afraid of saying it wrong.

But you feel sorry for her. Actually, I'm like... ...talking about my mom's downgrade.

Because... ...I want I want to be more aware. I'm a diva. You're cool. Yes. I should have continued my career in concerts. But, I want to continue on my journey.

Okay, let's try to confront with, I just watched a podcast, Mommy said, why is she on the road? Because she feels confused about where to find money to pay her siblings. Michelle is already, but Mommy also said, if I'm not mistaken, Michelle is still sent money every month. So, what do you think Mommy is doing?

Mommy has to go around? She's doing that for the sake of her kids.

So that the kids can eat. I'm already financially independent.

So, you buy shoes and clothes every day, and you pay for it yourself?

Yes, by myself. It's not Mommy Pink you pay for it yourself? Yes, by myself. Not your mom, right? I'm financially independent since I was 17 years old.

But you don't work.

I find my way. Wow. I find my way.

Wow, 17 years, you survived.

Yes, I think I survived since I was 16. Already?

Yes. Sorry, did you ask for it, like, mom, don't let me do it because I can, or did your mom stop because she's heavy?

No, my mom, of course, still cares about me, like, she wants to give me food and everything. But, from my own side, I want to earn my own money. Because it feels different, the pleasure is different, and I can do whatever I want. Wow, and you feel sorry for your mom, right? Yes, because from that point, one of her children is not burdened anymore. So, these shoes are not from your mom?

No, no.

Clothes?

No.

All the accessories?

All this.

All this?

All this?

All this? All this? All this? All this? All this? All this? So, you still depend financially on your mom?

I don't know.

But you're fighting for everything by yourself?

Yes.

Okay. You said your mom is a diva, you still have a lot of opportunities. But if you say that you don't know how to, like there's no job coming or anything, to be able to go back to the stage, to TV and everything, what do you think? Until you have to choose the path for life?

Actually, I think, just looking for viewers. Because there are so many people looking for other ways. Looking for money.

Yes.

And it's not necessarily the way. There are so many things. Because, especially, you were on the show after the concert. Don't say that. There are so many things. Especially,

you were on the show after the... Don't Act.

No.

What?

Synchronize. Oh, right. You should have continued.

Right.

But you didn't. Right.

Okay. Camelani, I want to ask you. There's a netizen's opinion, is it true? Netizen said, it seems like the fish is actually walking around,

it's so hot, poor thing, it's so hot, it's so hot. Not only because it's looking for money, but also to get attention.

Because attention can be a bait. If it's a bait, it's not necessarily attention. Someone said that, right? Because an artist needs to be viral, needs to be heard. So in your opinion, if Mami is rolling around on the asphalt, for money or for viral attention?

Viral. Because from viral you can get money. Yes, because I think like, if... If... My mom likes viral the most. She really likes it.

Yes, she really likes

if it's like get public attention. So, I think it's like that. But maybe, I don't know where I got the idea from.

Were you surprised when you first saw Mommy?

Of course, I was surprised. Especially, I didn't talk. So, I knew it was like when I was scrolling.

What is my mom doing?

Yes.

Yes, yes.

From there, it's like, oh my.

But, you didn't try to WhatsApp your mom?

Gang C, please. Young people, Gang C. You miss your mom, right? I miss her. I don't know if she watches it or not.

If she doesn't watch it, the clips will be sent to her. But honestly, I wrote the lyrics because I adored her. I used to have a radio station called Heart Rock FM. When I first met Amat Dhani, I was still skinny like you. But I was thin, not as thin as you. Then he came to Radio Kamel Hard Rock FM.

At that time, Kamelani was still a broadcaster. Anyway, she wasn't famous on TV yet. Then I saw your mom. She came in the morning, this was at 9 AM, an interview. With Bunda Maya. Then I saw her brown hair,

her body was slender, her voice was deep. That was the first time? Yes, the first time. I was wondering, wow, your mom is so sexy. I mean, not wearing a revealing shirt, but how the way she acts, how the way she moves, how the way she sings and talks,

that's already sex appeal, pink is the best. No wonder, after that, da-da-da-da, she's the sex appeal, Pinkan is the best. No wonder after that, da da da da da, crazy right, queen. Well, at the time, I finally saw Pinkan on the street, actually I am a fan of Pinkan, but again, everyone has their own struggles that we don't understand and I'm not close to your mom.

But in my heart, it's the same as you. You actually have so many potentials, you can not only walk.

Right. You can be more than that.

Because we care about her and we know that she's potential.

Yes, I agree.

When you eat donuts, your mom is also there. Her viral mind is strong, your mom is so resilient. You ate the donut, right?

I ate it and I went up the stairs. Yeah. I ate it. Actually, the donut is like fresh from the oven. It's really good. But when it's cold. It's hard.

Yes, like the one in Review Review.

But the idea of getting the idea of homemade donuts while singing is crazy.

Yes.

But in my opinion, Pinkan if you're watching this, you're actually very potential and great. You're the ultimate female version, but you have to be able to maintain what is already viral. What gets public attention. For example, donuts. It can actually be big. And before your mom was viral, big donuts or something.

I don't know if Michelle is at home in elementary school. Melanie came to her mom's house. That was the first podcast, my house was far away.

Oh really?

Yes. Were you still in elementary school? I forgot, was it elementary school?

I think so. It was in Tanggerang. Your mom was a food saleswoman. Oh, the catering one? Catering.

Oh. Because Melanie liked to buy. I used to go from Bekasi, Kalimantan to...

Imagine, where was it? Tanggerang. Wow. Because I like Mommy's food. But I think when it comes to donuts, why people stop eating, I don't know if the review is cold,

because there is no price accuracy. That's it. That too. Shoot.

Yes.

So we're like...

Not like the catering first, right? The catering was clear.

Yes. Clear. Even I was from your mother, do you know Michelle? Still live selling clothes for 30,000 on Instagram.

Oh, that's... Have you ever heard of it?

No, I haven't. That's the first time, Mommy, selling clothes. I was wearing a thrifting outfit, Camilla bought it for me. I was a fan of your mom. It means that if she wants to start a business, she can. But she has to stretch her maintenance, she has to be precise, so she doesn't suddenly get a viral and the price goes up.

You mean the 2 million fast track?

Yes, fast track, whatever, we use it. But in the end, it became viral only for a while. Actually, because I think she it's because your mom is a good cook. Okay, I want to show you some photos and what do you think about these people right behind me? This one, wow, crazy. Your mom is so pretty, wearing army clothes.

She's wearing army clothes, Shell. Yeah. Okay, what do you think? And what do you want to say to your mom, the younger version?

The younger version?

Yes.

She's cool. Cool, right? She's really cool. I'm also proud of her as a daughter. Even though I'm not born yet. Not yet, she's still a girl.

Are you really proud of her?

Of course, I'm proud.

What about the one next to her,. What would you like to say to your future wife?

I don't know what to say. I like my future wife. These two are great women. I like my future wife. I two are great women. I like Bunda Maya. I'm very proud of her too. Bunda Maya is so cool. When you see Bunda Maya

so close to her children,

do you feel like you're being hugged?

Of course. Of course, there must be someone like... Why I'm not? You want to be like that, right? Yes. You miss your mom, right?

Okay, hopefully your mom can get closer to her children, especially Michelle. Next.

Who is this?

That's me.

This is Michelle? Yes.

Oh my God, you look so different.

I look so small.

You look like a kid. Do you remember where you were taken?

I think... I don't remember.

Did you forget?

Yes, I forgot.

When you went to America, when you were... performing... No, you were performing in America. Did you follow Michelle? You were a model in America, did Michelle join you?

No, I never joined the place.

But Michelle was in America too? Yes, I joined.

Oh, you were in America too?

Yes.

How long were you in America?

2 years.

You were a model in America, right?

Yes, I was.

Yes, but you were in America. Okay, what do you think about the photo of mother and daughter,

who both look very happy here? I adore the bond that we had. But it's not the same anymore. So, sometimes I just go with the flow. What was your favorite activity that going out with my mom, or when my mom finishes work, and then quality time with me and my brother.

I'm really happy with that. Because, well, I'm happy. I'm happy that I can have time to compare with my mom. Was your childhood fun, Shell? It was okay. What was still here?

Or was your mom a single parent?

That's like... There's someone else. Or are you a single parent? I think... There's someone else. Before your current husband, every time you have a new partner, is there always a friction between you and your mom?

Or just with this one?

Always. I don't know why, the choice of men in her life, it's just so...

That's it. That's right, in your opinion. Not as vibe as Aliska said. Have you ever hoped, like heart to heart, to tell your mom, Mom, you don't have to get married anymore, just take care of us.

Have you?

Yes.

Oh, you have?

And my mom also had, like, Mom, just single parent, right? Or like, let's just be ourselves, no need to have a new boyfriend. Then I was like, it's okay, but... but if, for example, Mommy needs

a new partner, I'm also okay with that. Because Mommy is alone, right? And Mommy has been single parent since long ago. Since I and my brother Rezo, Mommy has been single parent, right?

Because my dad has separated from my mom. So, if my mom wants a new partner, I'm fine with it. She feels lonely. I don't want my mom to be alone. Especially if my sister and I are not at home. My mom is alone. If my sister and I are not at home, I'm alone, right? So it's okay, but

just her choice of yeah, her choice of men.

Okay, alright. So hopefully, one day, God will restore your relationship with me so that you can have another photo, but you're already mature, slim, slay like now.

Amen.

With mommy and mommy already have a lot of jobs, amen. Next, this is one of the photos that finally triggered you, finally you feel sorry for mommy. So it's not angry, guys. The child feels sorry because he feels that my mommy is actually a diva. But from the mommy, it feels like, feel like she can do this to make money.

While in my opinion, if you want to make money, there are many other things. This is if you can give the conclusion. But what do you want to say to your mom who has been on the road from the stage to the stage, until she fell asleep like this, there's a motorcycle and all kinds of things. I feel sorry for her. She should not be there. She could be at home, and before that, she could be at home too.

She said her fee was not rising.

I don't think so. I think it's still the same. But, well, this is the new husband, when he met his mom, before he met his mom, he also danced. Yes, challenge. And in my opinion, this idea is from the new husband.

You think so?

Yes.

Okay, she does look tired, see?

Yeah.

Like her face is tired, yeah? Yeah, of course. Crazy, Jakarta is getting really hot lately, yo. And mommy said she likes to put water on her head because she likes to get stabbed because of the heat. And this is aerobic, right?

Cardio, you know.

She's healthy, right? Don't forget to eat properly, take enough rest. Remember, if you're tired, you have to earn money. If you're sick, all the money is used up for treatment. Be healthy, take care of your health. I hope Pingkan will open the doors for other risks.

Amen.

Next, apart from your relationship with your husband, what do you want to say? What? What? I'm already tired of looking at her face. Let's not do it. Michelle, are you going to sing?

Maybe soon. But now, I want to practice my vocal.

Your mom has a one of a kind voice. Does it sound like you?

It sounds like my brother. Rez bit. I think it's getting lower. It's my brother.

Rezal.

Yes.

Rezal.

His voice is really good. Come here, Rezal. Sing, Rezal.

Where's Rezal?

Rezal.

Bell.

Hello.

Oh.

Sing, please.

Hello.

We meet.

How many? Six years ago? I think so. I think it was more, right?

Yes.

Kamelani went to... That was a really early podcast, Zell.

Really early. I still remember it.

She was from a house. It wasn't too big.

It's okay.

One room.

There was a table and a lot of kids.

I was really surprised.

There was a kitchen. It was a small kitchen. She cooked. That's when Mommy started.

And in the back.

In the back, and the food was really good. And this kid, I saw him videoing his mommy, because at that time everyone was making YouTube, and he was like a videographer, editor for his mommy. How are you?

I'm good. I'm doing my best.

Praise God. You're looking good. Crazy.

Do you have a girlfriend? Praise God. You're looking good. Are you dating? Not yet. You're looking for money first.

Yes, that's right.

So what are you doing now?

I'm doing some stuff here and there. I'm writing songs.

That's good.

I'm trying to be in the music area.

Good.

And yeah, I'm working there.

But you live with Misha?

No, but we're still close. So we hang out.

But you don't talk to your mom, right? You've been talking to her for 6 months.

But you talk to her?

Yeah, we still talk. And you take care of your mom's social media? Correct. So you take care of the people on the street?

No, no. Not that? I'm purely in charge of social media.

Who do you think that idea came from?

Oh, don't pressure me.

I don't know.

He's getting more and more confused. But before you sing, Camelani, I want you to sing a song. Michelle is not annoying, but she's pitiful. She doesn't agree with mommy being on the streets, doing all the things that she's doing right now on the road.

Do you agree with that?

For mommy there? Yes. Actually, no. Because she has a huge potential. And I also, knowing behind her, managing the management and stuff. I was also confused.

I mean, there were a few that offered, but maybe not too many people went to the area.

But there are still people who offer?

There are still people, sometimes. But maybe not as much as before.

With him not going out everyday.

Maybe he thinks it's not worth it, so he doesn't go out.

Okay, so when you see your mom... Are you the first child?

Yes, I am.

Wow, you're the first child. So when you see your mom walking, singing for hours,

if Michelle feels sorry for you, how do you feel?

Mixed feelings actually. Because there's both feeling sorry and proud. Because she still wants to fight for her children.

Not missing them.

Not missing them, not begging them things, not borrowing things from everywhere, and still wanting to fight. But knowing her, she should be able to do more, and not just maximizing it.

Yeah, it's not her level.

Actually, Mommy can be a diva. Right. Even if she's not a diva, at least mommy can still offer. Wedding is still in the air.

Pingkang Mambo, and her voice is fabulous.

Yes, her voice is still beautiful.

Is she practicing? That might be part of her practice.

She's on TikTok.

She's shaking. Have you ever had friends say, your mom is this, or among your friends, your mom is viral, singing on the street, is there anyone who said that?

There are some, there are some, but, I don't know, most of my friends, they don't say that.

Appreciate your feelings.

If it's cut off, just cut off.

Maybe I don't have friends like that.

Maybe it's like this,

you just cut off. Yes, that's like that. Okay, the one who sings, has a good voice, that means it's you. I don't know. Actually, Michelle has a good voice, but she's just not brave enough.

But you have to support her, she has to be an artist. She's so cool, your sister is... and you have to be a musician, in your opinion. Yeah, I'm trying. Fighting and praying. What's your favorite song? Your most favorite.

I think it's not suitable to be called Redzel. What? Don't say who. Who? Don't Tell Who.

Who?

Oh my God!

Don't tell who?

She just put it on.

That's a prank, right?

That song, the lyrics are so funny. Don't tell who. And Mami also sings, usually it's sad.

That's cheerful.

I don't think it's appropriate.

I can't do it.

Zal, what are you going to sing? What should I sing?

Mommy's song? Mommy's song. Maybe my favorite song of mom. There's a song, actually it's her first single. When she debuted as a solo artist.

The title is Cinta Tangan Us Okay. You know that? Cinta Takkan Usai.

I know that.

Go!

Where do I start?

Thank you, man. I'm not alone Because of love Even though I have to go through A thousand roads But I know for sure In my heart love will never end.

I almost forgot.

That's cool.

I pray for you, may God open the doors of blessings.

Amen.

You should, but don't shake it.

I think it's not enough.

Okay, last one.

What message do you want to give to your mom?

Michelle, go first.

Mommy, you know I love you. Oh, yeah. You know I love you. And I want the best for you, of course. And whatever you do, it's up to you. But I want the best for you.

So I hope you will realize how worth you are. And how amazing you are. And to continue your career. Because you have a big potential to grow. and to continue my career as a mother because the condition is still high to go up again.

Enthusiastic, the fish is hungry.

Zal, go.

What is it? If I say I want to talk to my mom, actually, this schedule is taken or not? I don't think it's here. What is it? Well, first of all, I'm proud of you as a mother. Because you can fight for 10 years, and you were alone for 10 years.

Raising kids is not easy. Yeah. And yeah, I respect her. And yeah, if you look at it now, I want to say that it can be more than that. For now, maybe just let it go while thinking about the future career, maybe start singing again, maybe a new single. I don't know what else to say.

One last question. Are you big with the figure of father or just a single parent, which is your mom?

No, no, no. You first.

Single parent. Single parent.

Okay. How does it feel to live and be raised in the young generation until now without a father figure? Not that there isn't one, but a presence in everyday life. Zal, first. You're a boy. How does it feel? Zaldoluan, how do you feel as a man?

It's very hard when people ask me that.

It's always hard because I think I'm used to it. So, I think life is like that. So, I don't know the difference. And if you ask me how I feel, it's just normal. But sometimes, there are people who walk with their fathers and mothers, and I'm like, oh, that's how it is. But, and I'm not sad either, because there's still my mother.

So, it's just normal. Maybe I'm used to it. So, I just feel normal.

Okay. Michelle?

I'm still in contact with my dad. But, we don't meet that often. So, sometimes, I want to feel the father figure in my life more frequently. More often. But, how to say it? But, I hope everything will turn out well for me, for us, for Rezal, for everyone, for Kamil too.

Amen, amen. And yeah.

Okay, hopefully God will bless you when you get married.

Amen, amen.

You can be a good dad for your kids in the future.

Amen, I hope so.

You can be a good mom, just like your mom who fights for her family and her kids.

As you said, raising your own kids, dude it's not easy.

It's not easy.

Your mom is a resilient woman. Yes, keep your spirit up, whatever your choice is, I hope these kids come not with hatred. They come not with hatred, they love you. And hopefully God will restore the relationship between mom and her children. And for Arya, I believe that no one is a coincidence. All the men, God chose Arya.

We believe that nothing is impossible. I hope everything can be healed and everything will be fine. Good luck to the kids. Good luck to the kids. God bless you guys. Bye.