Munawar on Bigg Boss, Marriage, Childhood & Parents | Raw and Real @munawar0018

Prakhar Gupta

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When I used to work in a utensil shop in Nal Bazar, there was a house on top of a candle. So, when I used to come to work from there, I used to look at the house everyday and think, where did I rent it? So, I was dreaming about this.

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So, where I am now is beyond my dreams.

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Tell me about your mother and tell me about your child.

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You are seeing that your parents are fighting. And in the fight, the end of every fight is that your mother is getting beaten up. You are crying in the corner but you can't do anything about it. I have never felt poor in my life. You know why?

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Because of all this.

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That poverty will be the last pain.

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And there are more pains than that. So, these reality shows have some scripting. I mean, there must be some plot loops that are already there.

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Bro, to be honest, everyone always thought so. But as a good consumer, I never thought that they are scripted.

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Really? They are not scripted at all?

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I never thought so. As a good consumer. But 50% of the audience is always there who think that they are scripted. The moment I did the Lockup show, I realized that, this is...

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The opposite of unscript opposite of unscripted. This is a big version of unscripted. That they put you inside and do the opposite of what you say. They'll ask you what you like to eat. They ask you what you like to eat, what problems you have, and they ask you what you like to eat, what problems you have, and they ask you with all your sympathy. If you have any allergies, if you are scared of anything,

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they will ask you everything. You will feel like they are asking you which shampoo to use. Inside, they do the exact opposite. They say, it's good that he needs coffee every day. We won't give you coffee for three months. You are crazy, show your craziness. And I'll tell you about scripted. They don't even tell you the A of ABCD.

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Whether it's Bigg Boss or Vandermal shows. And I'll tell you the truth, the day they make a scripted show, their shows will be ruined. Because you can't create so much drama without scripted. You can't create so much drama without scripted.

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You can't create so much drama without scripted. You can't create so they make a scripted show, their show will be ruined.

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Because you can't create so much drama without script.

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It will not work. If it's scripted, it will be ruined. The drama is so good that people think it's scripted. So you understand, think about the trip of these makers. What trip will the makers make? They think it's scripted. Think about their trip. What trip makers must have done. They must have thought it's scripted. So the show you're calling scripted,

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and you're feeling bad about it,

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for makers...

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It's a compliment. It's a compliment. We know it's not scripted. You're saying it's scripted, but we're saying what are we creating? Pure content creation.

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Right. Some of my friends who have worked in old reality shows they keep telling me that we create such circumstances that the contestants become emotionally so that the content comes out well. So the production is like that. Like we'll give less roti and vegetables.

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So hit that button and let's keep it going. People are watching you on the camera, noticing you and they are all big people. Hit that button. Let's keep it going. He's sitting in the front. Behind? You should have some sense of humanity. You've been on camera for so long.

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300-400 people live behind you in a room.

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But as a participant also, to be constantly seen. Like Bigg Boss' 24-hour format, where all the cameras are streaming.

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That's what I'm saying. People think it's a piece of cake. People think it's a piece of cake. You have to wear new clothes and eat. No. You have to fight. No. You human experiment. It's very difficult. Captive. I will keep you here for two days.

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Two days. 48 hours. What will you do here? Think.

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Yes, I can understand.

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I will take your phone. I took your phone. Come on. You will get food on time. What will you do for 48 hours here?

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You can't imagine. No, I can agree.

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And his psychological cost to be constantly in performance. Because, one thing is that the door of the room closes. The man becomes his own. Now he will scroll. He will sleep straight after eating. You don't have that option. People are constantly watching you.

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They even fuck your brain. I cannot imagine how much... It affects you mentally. You'll sleep soundly after drinking. You don't have that option. People are constantly watching you. Constantly. It's driving me crazy.

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I cannot imagine how much it affects you.

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Mentally, it affects you a lot.

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Do you have to take therapy after coming here? From there. From there, you have to go to the therapy director. But I know one more thing that I doubt. That you don't give coffee or tea to anyone. But a cigarette smoker should get a cigarette for a day. He gets it. He must get it.

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He gets it.

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Okay.

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They don't play with it.

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Okay. Because then the person will go crazy on camera. A cigarette smoker doesn't get a cigarette.

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Because he is going to come. They also know that if they don't give it to those who are used to it, he will not come.

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He will not come.

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He will refuse. He won't participate. A good system is there to smoke. That's what I always thought. Nothing else. I don't think you can give alcohol.

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And they are not taking makers coffee in coffee.

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Then?

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There is someone from the contestants because of whom you won't get coffee.

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Because they have given less.

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No, they create that. They create according to that. They are flip. They create that there will be only one coffee in ration. Now you have to run the whole week. But if you win a task, you will get it. You understand? This is the angle.

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I want to ask you a question. And why don't I expect any expertise in this? We are 30 years old. And we have just started living. This is another thing that our whole life is in the public. So an authority is attributed.

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I am not saying in that sense. I am asking you privately, brother to brother. You have experienced divorce. You have a kid. Knowing all of this, how do you see love, affection, love today? Do you think of true love as something real?

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Or you have lost your faith?

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No.

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I got the trust the day I got married to the Mehzabin. That it came to me again. Because after Bigg Boss, suppose Bigg Boss ended, February, March.

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You'll hear that voice.

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Yes.

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February, March, April. After three and a half months, I got married. Like, Ritik Roshan, Ritik Roshan, I made it and he got married. Do you understand? Like, it's a peak.

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The talks are getting bigger.

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Like, it's a peak.

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This three and a half months, I mean, the tag that you came out with, that tag will bother you because it's not something good people are talking about. But you are seeing that the 50 girls who knew you and were around you, they are very comfortable with you because they know you from before.

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They know you, they are your friends. They are very comfortable with you. They know that we know them, we have worked with them, we are friends. Then you understand one thing that it it's okay, no problem. A woman is feeling comfortable around you. Any girl.

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That's it.

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You can't get more proof that you are a good person. Now, this is that peak, when the work is going well, after Big Boss, it's like a... It's like a double following.

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No one picks up the phone.

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The attention has tripled. That attention has tripled too. That, bro, this is what I want. And that moment I realized that what am I doing? I don't want to do this in my life. I want love from a person. I want family.

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This is the right time that I should get married. And what I want to know now, I don't want to do the love that I want to know. The love after marriage, I have left it to God. I have left it to my fate. What is written in my life?

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I have faced everything. Now I have prayed to God and a beautiful woman entered my life. And we decided to get married. We fell in love after marriage. And I'm very blessed. I'm so happy that I took that decision. Because of which I have spent my time,

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the last year and a half that I have spent, because of that decision of mine, it gives me peace. That I might have regretted it if I hadn't married this woman.

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Interesting.

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It was like a perfect puzzle piece which was missing in my daughter's life. In my life. In her life. In her daughter's life. And it completely fixed. And I was like, okay. I am complete family wise in my life.

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I'm happy. My house was always scattered. It's not scattered anymore.

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Right. Alhamdulillah. I...

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It's very surprising for me too. But I've learnt that once a man breaks his heart, it becomes very difficult to unite himself. Especially if they've gone through an event where they've accumulated a sense of betrayal. A man says, this world is not for me.

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It becomes bitter. You become a villain. And I went through that. I became a villain in my life. After my experience, I was a villain. And I went through that. I became a villain in my life. After my experience, I was a villain. I started to feel the world is bad. I started to feel everything is wrong.

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Everything started to feel meaningless. Everything started to feel temporary. Mentally, I was there. So I am saying the same thing. When you said therapy, why did I say that? We know that our prayer is therapy.

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So, at that time, it was like this, when you left the responsibility on God. You always say that, I have an organizer, he organizes very well. I will call him once, everything will be done. Ticket, hotel, everything will be organized. Ticket, hotel, everything will be organized. Right?

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You trust someone whose rating is 4.6.

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Metro delivery 4.6.

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So you trust them that they are 4.5 stars. Now go to all the stars in the universe, all the people who make stars. There is no better organizer than him. So, when I understood that I am not capable, God will take care of it.

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I asked for it and I got it. So, that therapy was the same for me. And when you said that once the heart is broken, it is broken. Now it becomes very difficult. So when I left it there in that difficult time, then God said no, it can be fixed.

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It can be fixed.

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It is very easy for me, it is difficult for you.

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But it is very easy for me. I will do it.

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I, a clip came out in my research, where I am not sure which show it was from, I'll do it. I...

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Where...

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I'm not sure which show it was from. But you were talking about... Your mother. I think... And I don't know anything about your mother. But I think there is a very alive... Feminine part of you.

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In your behaviour... There is a... Female fluidity. Which is very... What female fluidity. What is fluidity? There is a smoothness to your... I'll give you another example.

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If you see Diljit bhaji on camera or on stage, he is very fluid. He is not stuck. It doesn't feel like he is in control of his mind. It feels like he is in control of his body. That is the quality you have.

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And my guess is, whether she wants it or not, that is a direct link from you to your mother. Tell me about your mother and tell me about your childhood.

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Brother, it's called very average childhood. When I have managed my senses, when I was 4 years old.

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I have handled my mind. And all the wrong things that are happening,

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they are happening so regularly that you don't even feel it's wrong because you are growing in it.

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What's wrong?

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As a kid, you are seeing your parents fighting. And in every fight, the end is that your mother is getting beaten up. Your grandmother is on your father's side. Everyone is on your father's side. Mom is alone. You are crying in the corner.

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You are just crying at a young age. But you can't do anything about it.

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You can't change that. And you can't do anything about it.

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You can't change that. And you are not able to do that. And you are just watching it. And this is regular. Sometimes it can happen twice a week, sometimes twice a month, sometimes it can continue for 4 days. So, I am seeing this, along with this, I am seeing that every day I am getting 30 rupees,

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which I have to run the house in. Out of 30 rupees, 6-7 rupees of milk is coming in the morning. I am standing outside with a pot of milk, it comes, I pour milk from the bullet. So, he gets 6-7 rupees worth of milk.

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And in 30 rupees, he gets salad, meat, lentils, rice, flour. We had a restaurant, so we had flour at home.

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So, we didn't get flour. So, my mom had to manage everything in 30 rupees. And that was not possible. What she used to do is... She used to make toran. She used to get such work.

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Making beads, embroidery in clothes. So, it was like all the time... she used to work. I mean, I have seen her working since childhood. to At that time, she was doing toran and all. And you get 2.5 rupees for such a big toran. Such small pearls. You have to make it with a needle. If you give me a pearl and a needle, I'll make a toran for you.

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We were small, so we used to make it side by side. We used to come to play.

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We used to get bored of making this much. I used to come to play. I used to make this much and it was not fun. But my mother is making 4-5 pots every day. So, that woman is like that. Plus, she is everywhere. If anyone needs anything, we have a wedding here. The wedding procession is going to Jamnagar.

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The whole family has gone. When the procession will come, it's not like we've called the Delhi Darbar to get the food ready for the wedding. It's a village, right? So when the procession will arrive,

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who's in the village to cook for the bride? There's no catering or anything. All the women, my mom used to say, when a couple of women would stay, my mom used to say, you go too, it's your brother's wedding. It's your brother-in-law's wedding. You go too.

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When you come back from the wedding, I'll cook for you. So, food for 200-250 people, I didn't even get a thank you. Or at least, don't give me money, but appreciate. Nothing. There is no such thing in the village. So what kind of a woman would she be?

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How selfless would she be? That she doesn't even get a thank you, despite doing all this. But she doesn't care. She didn't even want a thank you. She wanted a thank you from her family. She wanted a thank you from her husband.

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Which she didn't get. All her life. She wanted a thank you from her husband, which she never got. All her life. And we were so young that we couldn't do anything. My sisters were a little older than me. There's a gap of 2-2 years between us. She was a little older. They must have understood each other.

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They must have had a conversation with their mom. I was very small. I was too young to understand or explain. And you relate to a poem and get happy. You don't get happy because of the poem. You get happy because you said what was in your heart. So, a poet has a word.

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I am not a poet. I don't have a word. That I can express what I am feeling. I can say that this is wrong. I can say that. I don't have a word.

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I am young. I don't know. I am just tolerating that thing. I am suffocating. That thing is bothering me. And I have to go to school in the morning.

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I have to come in the afternoon and sit in the hotel or restaurant. So my life is a different distraction. That I will play cricket in the afternoon. I will do this in the evening. I will do this at night. And you will feel that this is part of life.

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That what is happening in your house is part of life. Even if you do it around, it is mostly happening. So I think, that was my mom's patience after a time. Which was very big. Like, it was a patience of 22 years. That she, in her 20-22 years of marriage life.

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And it wasn't easy. I'll say it wasn't easy. No one can bear that much pain. The decision she took, because not for one thing, was 22 years old. I was 13-13.5 years old.

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How did you find out? I was asleep.

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I mean, there was a one time when I... We have a two-floor house. So, we used to live in the terrace room upstairs. But that night I slept with my grandma. That was the only night I slept with my grandma. Because we had to prepare for the Maharam.

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The preparation for making the sherbet and all that was going on. So I came home a little late. Late means 11.30 or 12.00 and I slept downstairs. And at 7 in the morning I found out that get up, get up, we have to took my mom to the hospital. I was in deep sleep. I didn't even wear my slippers.

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I just ran to the hospital. They said there's only one hospital. And I ran there for 7-8 minutes. So I reached there and I was like, what's going on? It was 7-7.30 in the morning and I got to know after an hour and a half that they had taken the vaccine. But they weren't telling the doctor, the elders, the mother.

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They were a little scared that they should say it or not. So they were like, my stomach is hurting. And as soon as I got to know, for half an hour, I was thinking that why aren't they telling me? And they were like, don't tell me, your dad might have a problem. I was like, dad might have a problem? I couldn't understand at that time. But after a moment, I went to the nurse and she recognized my distant relative, my mom's side.

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And I told her that she took the medicine. And that moment, the nurse said that she took the entire treatment. At the same time, she took the hospital brought it back in an emergency. He changed it. It's a different condition. But I still don't consider anyone responsible because

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if it was in God's hands, God would have saved us. God wanted it, it was in God's hands. Maybe that's how he was destined to die. God wants it to come up. God's hand will come up. Maybe,

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this is how he was destined to die. It was around 2.30 pm, I remember. The doctor was not saying anything.

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He was behaving very normal. We thought, the doctor is normal. We have seen him in the movies, he is a different person.

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The doctor is very chill.

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We didn't know that the doctor would be chill the whole time. So, we thought that this is the first time I have come in this condition. I thought that they were panicking.

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Everything was going on. Maybe a civil hospital. When I came in this situation, I thought they were panicking. Everything was going on. Maybe a civil hospital. If it was a private hospital, I always remember. Whenever I go to a private hospital, whenever,

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even today,

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for anyone, or to see anyone, the moment I enter a private hospital, I see the facilities, I see people who have money, who have money and get the best treatment, I feel that, if you had gone to a private hospital that day, why did I go to a civil hospital? If I had gone to a private hospital, it would not have been possible to take a loan from anywhere and pay the money. I would have done anything to save my life. But why a civil hospital?

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There are 50 beds in it, why there? I don't understand. Even today, sometimes my heart feels like this doesn't happen, this doesn't happen, this doesn't happen. But in the end, we go there. Now, God had written it, so no one can stop it.

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But when this happened, you must have felt angry.

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A lot.

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Who were you angry with dad or your mom?

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With everyone. Dad's entire family.

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Weren't you upset with your mom? That she left you? It was very sad. I remember. How long were you upset?

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I think I was... I even cried secretly at that time. Not so constantly in front of everyone. We used to say, the terrace house, I am going there because I am crying. Because I used to feel that,

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everyone used to say that. They used to say, when I had a child, they used to say,

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Keep him in the cradle.

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No, keep him on the branch of the banyan tree. Kind of. Tell him that you are the elder of the family, you have three sisters. If you cry, everyone will become weak looking at you. So when you hear this, you feel that yes, he is right. So okay, I can't cry. Okay.

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Don't cry, don't cry. Come on, pray.

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So I was acting. It was useless. Just because I heard it and I feel that this is the right way to approach. So at that time,

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exactly I remember that exact step at that time, where I was crying and I heard a voice from downstairs. I was like, I paused for a couple of seconds and changed my voice. I asked, what happened? He said, I want to talk in that voice. And that acting is always on. My eyes are open, where do I have to go?

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Sir's phone is ringing. Now if I tell him I'm sleeping, he'll abuse me. Yes, I'm on the road. I'm awake from sleep. I'm not even awake from sleep, but... That lie, to save myself,

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it's so clear at that time. And where did it start? Sitting on that ladder, I'm crying, and I heard a voice from downstairs, where is Munawar? So what? Now you have given me a task. You are going through something in your life and someone gives you a task to complete

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these four or five things. You gave me a task. You made the house big. Don't cry. Everyone has to handle it well. You didn't even let me feel.

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The next day is the morning. I didn't even feel it.

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The next day, in the morning, you didn't even let me feel that grief. It's not their fault. But I'm saying that I didn't feel it. I don't remember. Because I still remember that I was walking forward in the funeral, normally. Crying inside, but I was walking normally in the funeral. Crying inside, but I was walking normally.

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So, now everything is filled. So, I didn't come for anyone. I was angry for everyone, but after a while, I forgave everyone. Everyone.

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Then it happens that even if someone has done a little bit of injustice,

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I remember that you have troubled my mother. But after a while, you forgave everyone.

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Okay.

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One of you.

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And he never got angry with me for my dad. I was very angry on him. But when I saw his realisation, I was like, okay, fine.

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I understood. Okay. Understand. Mom was 2 years old and dad got paralyzed. Complete 80% body stopped. 2009. He was paralyzed for 11 years.

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Now you think that one villain is your father. And you realize that he has got what he has did wrong to someone. He also suffered a loss. What should I hate this person for? He also has no one except me. So, you couldn't tell him. Now what has he made you?

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He has made you so forgiving in life. Now it doesn't matter what anyone does to you. Do you let go of everything? Your let go nature, that has been built since childhood, that you let go of such a big thing, now you have become that, that you let go of the biggest thing

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and you get stuck in it. I think this pain is very private. You have seen it. Your poverty, your struggle has seen it. Your dark times, whether it's on reality show.

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I never felt poor.

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I have never felt poor in my life.

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You know why? Because of all this. That poverty will be the last pain. I've never felt poor. I couldn't study, I'm not paying my fees, I'm feeling ashamed, I don't have the things.

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And you have has deep pain.

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That Shahbaz's father has given him a new car. He is happy for Shahbaz.

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That he has got a new phone.

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Shahbaz is so young.

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How does he have a phone and a car?

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He never felt that his father didn't give him me that. Why don't I have it? I am happy for Shahbaz. I never felt that jealousy. I don't know if I should have done it or not. I don't know.

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No, brother, I know this is my pet theory. In some ways, I am also very closely associated with other families where there have been a lot of fights and conflicts. And I tell those people, those friends that God will give you another chance when you have children. Be ready for that. And there are a lot of wounds from our childhood. Because a child who is seeing domestic violence in his home, I have no way of knowing. Maybe you are able to tell me that my thinking is right or not.

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But I think that the first emotion of a child who is watching domestic violence is shame and helplessness. Is this my fault? And why can't I do anything about it? Don't I have the capacity to do anything about it? I think those wounds come back when you have your own children.

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This is my guess. I have no way of knowing. Maybe you are able to tell me if my thinking is right or not. But...

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I think in the next 10 years... How old is your son?

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7. In the next 10 years, you will realize that you are a very good father. Because you have seen your pain very closely. It's like... Every experience makes you better. Like we have seen, when we hear stories, we see... that...

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a person has changed after getting hurt. A person has become a rebel after getting hurt. Some people become rebels after getting hurt.

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So, the world shakes you up. The world ruins you. Some people become like themselves. Some become like their things. Some become like their actions. You adopt that thing. You want to do bad things that have happened to you.

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You want to do good and forget that bad.

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It's completely in your hands.

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And I'm so happy.

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I'm so fortunate that God has given me a heart. He has given me a delicate heart. I am happy there. God has given me a sharp mind. I am happy for that. My mind is very good. My heart is weak.

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What are your dreams? What keeps you alive?

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Bro, I'm alive... If you call anything a dream, it'll be like this... Where I'm sitting today, it wasn't even a dream. My dream was like this... When I used to work in a utensil shop in Nal Bazar,

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there's a house on Shama Mehndi, one room kitchen. You can understand it by looking at the outside that it is a small house, but it's like a window, I mean, the gallery is small. And on the side of the road, you can see Bhindi Bazar, full market area. So when I used to come to work from there, I used to leave and he used to look at the house every day and think, I will rent a house here.

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This is a dream of 2008. This dream didn't come true. But where have we reached? So the one who was seeing these dreams, this was the dream. So where I am is beyond my dreams.

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What keeps me alive? What keeps me alive is that I have to do better, I have to learn a lot, I have to do a lot of good. I have to entertain people, it's fun. It makes me happy, maybe this art form of mine makes me happy when people are happy.

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I just got a very random call.

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And that person also called me secretly from a relative. And a very distant relative. I don't want to tell you because I am famous. She was not greedy to call her. She called me so nicely and said, I'm saying this and that, we watch you on TV and we are very happy. We put a cassette of your old marriage, in which you are standing behind, we all watch it.

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And my son, he likes you a lot, he also watches you a lot and we all are very happy. And I'm so glad that I picked that unknown number. Recently, the show of Pati Patni Panga was launched, so in the village, they are not on the internet in the village. Do you understand? Even today. They only watch TV at night.

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I have done anything on the internet, they don't know. I am getting this woman's call when I am hosting something on TV. That you are standing with the heroine. You are in the suit. She is saying all these things. She is saying it very smoothly and I'm listening to it.

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This was 3-4 days ago. And I'm listening to it. And I feel that I have to do this in life. I have to make the people who are happy, happier. That whenever someone sees me, they make people happy. So that they are happy whenever they see me.

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So the dream is to entertain people. That's the motivator.

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When I used to do stand-up, and I was doing really good stand-up wise, I started feeling a lot of restrictions on stand-up. Even while doing it, as a live performing, that anyone can threaten us with anything and trouble us. That this show shouldn't be here, this show will be here, this will be like this. And I was like, what am I doing? I am making people laugh. You come and sit yourself, you will laugh and go.

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I don't say what you think. What you are feeling is wrong. That's not all. I just make people laugh. I tell stories, I tell stories of my street. I tell stories of my childhood. I will tell you relatable things.

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You just come, you will relate. I will tell you your stories and you will clap. But again, who will you tell? How will you explain?

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I said, okay.

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I will change the medium of entertainment. Poetry is making you happy, so I'll make a poem. Music is making you happy, so I'll make a song. Okay, reality show, now look at me. You couldn't even buy a ticket for 2 hours. So watch 24 hours live. I'll be in front of you for 3 months.

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So my audience couldn't see me. Presenting you 24x7. See Big Boss's house, see the lock-up. I will be visible to you. I am making ways to reach you. All the ways that are being blocked.

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I am making, I am fighting. I am fighting to reach you. I am fighting that fight that you can't see. You can't see. You can't see. Because...

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That is my backstage. My backstage... You don't know. You know my backstage as much as I do. Today, I'm here, talking to you. I don't know, maybe I should go to the car.

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And I'll think that...

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You said too much.

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I shouldn't have said this. How will this be taken It will have a negative impact. It will have a positive impact. It will hurt someone's ego again. Do you understand? It will come. It comes.

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Our people are programmed. You will be specially programmed. But,

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Do you know, I have a friend, who is a very good friend of mine. He is a very good friend of mine. Will it come? It will. People like us are programmed. You will be specially programmed.

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But...

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You know, if there was someone from PR,

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this conversation wouldn't have happened. I know. That's why I got all the people who were there, to settle in.

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This conversation doesn't happen. My team members. But I am the truth. This is my truth. This is my heart. My mind will speak in the car,

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that Munnaur, you shouldn't have said this. Why did you tell this?

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Leave it.

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My mind will go there. But when my heart said it, it said it. And... What am I? I am nothing. They say, what is your identity? You are nothing. When you stand in front of the sea, to know that I am nothing. I myself think that I am nothing.

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Those who don't like me, if I weigh 65 kgs, I am nothing compared to a 75 kgs person.

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True.

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If you are half a foot and one foot taller than me, then I am nothing compared to you. I don't consider myself anything. I am who I am, where I am, that is my destiny, that is my work. And no one can take away those two things from me. You can't take away my work and my destiny because they both run together.

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The work written in my destiny, I will get it. And the destiny that will be with me because of my work, that is also written. So no one can change these two things. So, I don't care about anyone. I don't care about anyone's criticism or praise. I am a simple person.

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I am what I am because of my tongue. I am what I am because of my tongue. I am because of my tongue, even if I speak well. I am because of my tongue, even if I speak badly. So, after leaving here, I will not disagree with anything that is spoken in my tongue in the car. Because the food that is going to be cooked in my house,

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the food that God is giving me, is because of my tongue. So, what I have said, Prak I have said, I have said it. Whatever happens, will be seen.

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What have you learnt from your wife?

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I have... Value.

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She values everyone. The way she takes care of kids. It's not like she's a sea of love. No. Very practical. That this is not right for the child. A few days ago, we had an argument about something.

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I was like, he is asking for water, he is asking for a plate, so don't make him stand on the food. So he said, yes, he can provide the plates. But he said, see, he won't always be like this. It's important to prepare the kids for everything. And I realized that, yes, how can I forget this?

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But your heart, mind, everything is not in control every time. You think that we are working hard to make it good. And yes, it is getting good. Give it good. But at the same time, tell it the reality that you can also get up and take water. So that it doesn't feel that water comes to make noise.

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So, these small things which are very important,

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which your delicate heart can't see, as a father,

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but he has seen it.

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Because he knows how to raise it better.

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And what did you learn while raising your son? Because you are 31, I am 29, we are of the same age. But you have a 7 year old son. That is not measured in age, that is experience.

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I took myself, when I was as carefree as I was before, I am not as carefree now. Because of this guy. I am always worried about him. I take care of him. I calculate things that I never used to do.

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And he humbly tells you that when something happens to him, how much pain you go through which you can never imagine. I can't feel pain because of someone's fever. So now you are suffering from someone's fever. That brother, I will get a stroke, but he will not get a fever and cough. So I think all these things, which are very natural, I think.

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But I am happy that I am able to feel that.

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What is the next project?

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The next one, which I am hosting on TV, a great host for three months, is going to be on. Society?

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Yes.

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We have a new web show, which is going to be on last draft. Work is going working on that. So, when the last draft is complete, it will go on the floor. Apart from that, stand up...

45:52

There is still a web series, right?

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Yes, it's first season is out. The second season has already been shot. Which is released in October or November. But after that, we are going to a floor with a new web series. And there is a film too.

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There is a film too.

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So, film and web series both will go on the floor nearby. And in between, there is a stand-up. So, stand-up shows are also planned. Internationally, there are many places left. So, slowly, they are also completing.

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No, brother, from an observer standpoint also, you are very talented. Not just talented, but there are so many people around us. Everyone is talented. Everyone is talented. But if I see young comedians, you can point at the time and say, bro, you are something different. One man acting, reality shows, comedy, poetry, singing.

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And if you can deliver on all of them, and he has such a cult fan following. I remember that video when you came after winning Bigg Boss. It doesn't happen. So everything from your personality to your singing, it's a broad range of things. You're gifted. Your circumstances have been unique.

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And I mean, I think about what Munawar would have done with his trauma privately. Maybe he would have made it an art. Because his art is actually very rich. And your future as an artist is very undeniable. Because if a person sees these lows and then keeps moving forward, then he will keep moving forward. It is very difficult to stop him.

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I am saying that all these things that are coming in life, what are they giving me? Like, what am I sitting with? I have this thing in my phone that is used the most. This is it. Notes. This is the most used. What is this thing that he has given me?

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And since when is it there?

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2020.

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Crime Patrol.

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It's written Crime Patrol.

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Crime Patrol can be something funny.

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It must be a joke. Start from 35 seconds. Crime Patrol. It's written Crime Patrol. Crime Patrol can be something funny.

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Start from 35 seconds.

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Crime Patrol. Crime Patrol was my first set. When I started the stand-up. I must have deleted the pictures.

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I might have deleted the pictures. I might have deleted the pictures, but... Thoughts. These notes are the most important thing for me. So, what are these things giving me? It is taking away my art form. It is making it worse.

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Should I say something?

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Please.

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Whenever I have worked, I think every man can relate to this.

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And I am saying this as I speak.

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That I have gone far away from my loved ones to earn some money. Consider it a business or a man's responsibility that I reach home late every night. Do you all get sleepy in hunger? I have seen many disasters and reached reached this question with many fails.

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My own people don't include me in their happiness. I have reached the first among their sorrows.

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And don't reject this question of mine.

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I have broken many hearts to reach your door.

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They salute my intelligence. They don't know that I have reached here by doing stupidity. That your mother made you so famous, that your prayers have made you so famous, that I have reached your grave after a year. Last time, it's been a year, I haven't been to your grave for a year. I am going to your grave after a year and writing this at home.

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That your prayers have made me so busy.

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That I can't even come to meet you.

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That your prayers have made me so busy, mother. I'm reaching your grave after a year. And when I go for stand-up, I say this while standing on the stage. That this world's the world also kills. By the way, this sorrow of the world also kills. Still, I put my life on my palm and reach to make you laugh.

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My brother, f**k yeah bro. I think, I mean, I don't need to say anything. People will say in the comments, what should I praise my brother?

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This is what you are giving. Is it worth?

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Yes, it is worth. In fact, I think this is vulnerability worth. I think this is honesty worth. I think this is art worth. I am not worthy of giving any clarification or judgment here. I can listen and I can ask questions on behalf of the people. And I have had a lot of conversations. Thank you so much for this.

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This was what I try to do with most people. To get into their mind and heart to see how their world looks. You let me. I appreciate that.

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Thank you.

51:45

Best of luck with everything. I hope to see you from the sides do as well as you will do, bro. And wow, fantastic.

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Just that. Thank you.

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Thank you for the questions.

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I don't know what to say.

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I am happy to come unprepared and to have this conversation. I think I am worthy. No, I'm happy. Unprepared coming and having a conversation. I think I'm doing a podcast after two and a half years.

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I hope it was worth it, bro.

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No, no. Of course, I'm not saying it's worth it. I'm just saying that...

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We'll see that later.

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When the audience sees it later, what the audience thinks, what they want to take. I'm just saying that what did that kid buy? The regular thing that he used to see at home, was that bought? You are right.

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You heard anything, you saw anything, was it better than that? I always say, I say this many times, Hazrat Ali used to say that to find a flaw in something, a person, is an example of that fly which leaves the whole beautiful body and sits on the wound.

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The fly will sit on the dirty place. the You are just a fly for me. And if a fly is blown away, it will be killed. My brain will kill it. It will blow my heart away. So, you are a fly for me. You can make me fly.

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You can sit on my wound. Okay, sit. Take this. Wash your hands and go. But it doesn't make a difference. So if I want every person to think like this, I have to think about myself. This is me.

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That I will see a beautiful body of a human. Not a wound.

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Thanks bro. This made my trip worth it. I woke up at 4 in the morning and got the flight. It's my wife's last day in Delhi. She'll fly tomorrow. I'll take the flight at 8 in the evening and land at 10. I'll reach home at 11. I'll spend an hour with her. I'll drop her at the fly tomorrow. I'll take a flight at 8 pm and land at 10 pm.

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I'll reach home at 11 pm. I'll spend an hour with her. I'll drop her at the airport tomorrow. And I was thinking what was the need to do this on a Sunday. It was necessary. I met a guy at the airport this morning.

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And I was completely asleep. It was 5 am. I mean, my eyes were up. He came to me and said, nice to meet you. I said, same to you. He stopped. He said, it doesn't seem like you think it is nice to meet me. I said, no, I am just very tired. I haven't slept. I have been running around since last 2-4 nights.

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He said, brother, I started seeing you 3-4 years ago. I used to have domestic violence at home. He started crying while talking. He said, my parents have separated now. But, thank you. Your voice was my support. I listened to you and I was brave. And now he is studying in a big university.

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He has grown up. He will do something in life. He will listen to this. He will find this and he will feel it. Do you understand?

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It's not a coincidence to meet him today.

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Some people design and some people make it. Otherwise, why? Whenever I am at the airport, I meet 100-50 people. Everyone has a different story. No one tells me anything. That happening, this happening.

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I remember, I remembered something. I was performing in Bangalore. Right in front. I remember it in such detail. A woman was sitting in an Indian dress. She was laughing so much.

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Like it was an attraction. She was laughing so much. She was enjoying it. She was having fun in the crowd. After the show, she came and she told me that thank you so much. My husband was a doctor during Covid and he died.

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And you were the one who made me laugh. For the first time in last eight months.

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That's such a big thing. Such a deep thing.

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And she said, Thank you. So we see that he is reaching somewhere.

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After that... He made someone's day that, I lost my courage and slept. Today morning I met that boy, I said, how dare you lose courage in something? What have you done in his life? You don't know. Our voice, I consider myself a monkey on the internet. But what does our voice do unknowingly? What is the trust in it?

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One man is happy. I pray that one man gets lucky.

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It's a big thing. Hey man, thank you Munawar. Thank you. This is everything I hoped it would be.

56:56

It was fun. It was fun. It's been 2 hours. It's been 2 hours. 155. 159. 159.

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Thank you.

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