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N4-JIZ‼️J!JI3K‼️ BUKTI FULL NYA 2 JAM‼️ UDAH TAU PUNYA ISTRI KENAPA KAMU MAJU TERUS‼️ (MAWA)

N4-JIZ‼️J!JI3K‼️ BUKTI FULL NYA 2 JAM‼️ UDAH TAU PUNYA ISTRI KENAPA KAMU MAJU TERUS‼️ (MAWA)

CURHAT BANG Denny Sumargo

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0:00

I just reported my husband's sexual harassment and sexual harassment case Insanul Fahmi and one of the initial ER public figures Why should my husband, whom you took, you have been hurt before? You should be able to improve yourself

0:18

I was so angry, I was like, oh my God, that's my husband, that's my husband Why is it like this?

0:26

This is a real insult.

0:28

So you have a long video.

0:30

Full.

0:32

How far?

0:34

It's already a big crime.

0:38

So Mawa came here to tell her story. She wants to tell the truth. It's valid, right? Her husband cheated, it's valid for you, right? It tell a story it's valid, right? husband cheating, it means it's valid for you it's valid, right?

0:46

valid, very valid really? I can't give a report if it's not valid, sir

0:50

eh bang

0:51

so you went to Jakarta to make a report?

0:53

yes, right

0:54

are you originally from Medan? yes, Medan people

0:57

live in Medan?

0:58

yes, in Medan Why in Jakarta? Maybe more precisely because they were made in Jakarta. So I reported it to the Jakarta Police.

1:08

Okay, made in Jakarta. Yes.

1:11

So you have proof that there was an adultery or rape in Jakarta. Yes, that's right.

1:18

CCTV.

1:19

CCTV.

1:20

CCTV at home, CCTV at the hotel?

1:23

There is a room. There is a room. There's a room. Then, the room is... It clearly shows their shameful actions.

1:31

Okay, let's discuss the chronology first. Okay.

1:34

So, at first, you started to know about this from what suspicion or from where? Actually, it started from... they are professional workers, right? Actually, they are more like personalities. So, there is a contract business, so they usually have a contract business for a year. I don't know exactly how it is. So, it's a partnership, right?

2:02

Initially, it was a partnership, right? Initially, it's a business partnership, right? So, this business partnership, who invited the partner, husband, to... or... there's a third party? I think, as far as I know, it's from their friends. Their friends.

2:16

Husband's friend, and also his friend. So, they get to know each other. That's in the travel, my husband's business is about. Support for the inventor.

2:30

So it's bigger. So it needs a public figure. A more powerful role.

2:37

Okay.

2:37

So, I met Indra.

2:40

Okay, so your husband's business is hiring Indonesian women.

2:45

Yes, that's right.

2:46

Your husband is the owner, so they work together.

2:49

Yes, that's right.

2:50

How many years?

2:51

That's... I think, if I look at it, I flashback, flashback. Their first introduction was on July 31. It was very early, it was in Kajian. Kajian Teman Searah.

3:07

Yes, 2025. So actually it's just new, Bang. Okay.

3:11

Yes. That's before working with business?

3:13

Yes, maybe they started from the meeting in the study. Well, maybe the sea is slow, there is a match, right? Become a business partner.

3:22

Okay.

3:23

Like that.

3:24

Okay.

3:25

Oh, so you connected from there to there. Yes, we connected from there. And then, I don't know, maybe it's their characteristics. And my husband is typical, he's easy to get along with other people.

3:37

Okay. So, it's easy to get along with him. Okay. So, my brother is more like that. So, it's easy like that, so it was easier for them to get in. When did you start to feel suspicious?

3:49

My husband was always out, we were in the local government. And he was often out for two weeks, and with me for four days, even the longest was only one week. In the local government? Yes, inM. So when I came home, there was really nothing. I mean, there was no movement, gesture that was suspicious. It was August, October, November.

4:18

So there was really no gesture, until at the end, in October of last year, after he took part in their study, he went straight home. I picked him up to the airport with my son. So, I picked him up at the airport, and he was really like, he was really over-the-top, he was really treating me, he was really over the top, he was treating me like I was his baby I was like, what the hell, why is he so nice, does he have feelings for me?

4:54

So I felt like something was off, because all this time he was actually a lover but not that much, he was like, he, but not that much. He hugged me a little bit. He said, I miss you so much, Ayong. He said, I miss you so much, Aknan. We went to my parents' house. I was already feeling it.

5:17

I thought, I didn't know, I didn't expect it either. I thought, this is weird. Because I saw that they had a contract before. But you already knew that they had

5:32

a contract before, right?

5:34

Yes. But when we got home, we went straight to my parents' house. I thought it was a coincidence. We went to my parents' house. I thought it was a coincidence. We went to my parents' house first. I said,

5:52

if you don't love your family anymore, please take care of us.

6:00

How come?

6:02

I don't know. Maybe I have a choice. Because Allah created women female genitalia, it's actually a feeling from the heart. So it just happened so suddenly. And then, we were at my parents' house,

6:16

and they were looking at each other, and I was like, it's such a shame. Suddenly they were kissing, suddenly they were hugging, I told my parents, I said, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Suddenly, they started to kiss. I mean, they hugged and hugged each other.

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6:29

What was his response when you said that?

6:32

When you said that, he was like this. His response was, I said, I love Ayang. I won't leave Ayang. I won't leave Ayang. He said that.

6:43

He hugged me again. We went downstairs. We went downstairs. We went downstairs. We met the parents for a short time. Then we went home.

6:56

It was a Saturday night. We had a deep talk. He told us about the sharing. He told me about their relationship. He told me that their relationship was just business.

7:14

Why did he suddenly go there?

7:15

He went to the sea. He told me that he had an intention to enter our lives like that the point is, he told me that he was interested in polygamy to be a second wife he wants to persuade you to polygamy

7:37

yes, so at first he was more into this he, God willing, understood religion he raised his dignity's stories, it turns out that her parenting is good. So they are directly connected., if I think about it because they have been telling each other stories so actually, if we say

8:11

the rape case so if you saw the one in the media I said the issue was rape and adultery the thought is, how far are they from each other? I mean, her husband's facebook account is being followed

8:29

So, what is their relationship? I was wondering about that So, day by day, he was like Actually, if netizens, friends, can be searched because I immediately assumed adultery, so adultery is there

8:53

the law yes, the law of 284 KHP can be searched I don't want to explain the sound, I don't want to explain the details, but it can be researched. But why did I make a report? It means because the evidence is very strong in me.

9:12

Okay.

9:13

I can't make a report, but I don't have strong evidence. Do you have proof? Yes. Oh, this is proof of adult relationship. Yes, actually it's very embarrassing. Okay. Very embarrassing.

9:26

Oh, so this proof has already happened before the deep talk? Yes, that's right. That's why I didn't really expect it. I'll take a breath first. So before the deep talk Okay, like this

9:45

Sorry

9:47

But the face is not visible

9:50

Actually there is more complete More complete but? There is in the flash disk Anyway, that's what I gave to the investigator So the proof is really accurate Because it's impossible for me to share it to the investigator if it's not accurate

10:03

And it's impossible for the investigator to immediately conclude that the case is 284 KWHP. So, this is short, right? Yes.

10:15

Full.

10:16

How long?

10:18

It's already a big crime.

10:20

Which if we catch in the language, it's like a husband-wife relationship. Yes, that's right.

10:24

Husband-wife, right that yes true husband-wife yes yes true and they do it hahaha what is it like fun because I see it there is a recording of the voice also visible okay heard too okay their actions are really amazing like yes husband-wife, relationship, like that. So I didn't expect that because, wow, it's that far. And they did it very calmly.

10:53

Automatically, it's not the first time.

10:55

How did you see that?

10:56

Yes. Honestly, there is no wife who is very accepting. Her husband is in a relationship like that with another woman they do it with a lot of fun until the end actually, it's really nice, Ozone Jalik

11:21

there is no wife's heart, No wife would dare to see that. But here I see a real betrayal in the house of marriage. The holy promise is really broken. And there is no one who is responsible for that. He's a... He's a responsible man. And when I saw him, I was like...

11:50

Oh my God. I was like, oh my God. I was like... I felt like the world was falling apart. Did you ever deny that you're trying to say,

12:03

this is not my husband. This is not him.

12:06

I was a bit drained. I was like, oh my God. But then I looked again. It was really him. I was like, I was shaking.

12:18

You made sure again. Yes, I did. But then I looked again. That's my husband. why is it like this? This is a real insult, a real insult. Why can't he always say, let him work, sorry.

12:36

Work, you work first, tell my son. Go first, Nan, Abati works first. Abati works first, Nan, Abadi, work first, Abadi, work first, pray, pray, I hope it goes well. So I always think, God, I hope my husband's job abroad goes well. Astagfirullahaladzim, ya Allah, I entrust everything to you, ya Allah, I entrust everything to you, please make his job smooth, please pray for the eternal life.

13:07

The eternal life is looking for a blessing for us. I never say that the eternal life is looking for money. I mean in the Islamic context. The eternal life is looking for a blessing. God gives blessings through the eternal life. So that the eternal life can buy toys, toys, can buy Afnan clothes.

13:25

The point is that Afnan's school needs are fulfilled by Abati. So Abati works. So, I always tell my son, until, Nan, let's pray, pray for Robbie Fairlie, like that. Well, pray for Abati, Nan. Abati works Kavnan.

13:45

So I didn't even slander his well-being in front of my son. I even thought, I can't tell him about the bad things.

14:05

If I'm talking to my son, before, from the beginning, I always I'm not a bit, a little bit, a little bit, whatever it is about the badness of his father, his age So I made my son's perspective, wow, what age, this is a role model It should be like that.

14:25

Boy or girl?

14:26

Boy. So, to be honest, I'm not a father figure, because we rarely hang out. But I can be a mother figure, a father figure. Sometimes, during Friday prayers, I also like... Nan, you drive, right? During Friday prayers, Uman waits in the car, Afnan is the same.

14:46

There are friends like Afnan, so I wait in the car. Because men, if it's a prayer, the Friday prayer must be in the mosque, Nan. I said, right? Well, Uman is a woman, so Uman just wait in the car. He immediately. So I can be a mother figure for my child and a father figure too. So, I don't want him to be lacking in his father figure.

15:08

Alhamdulillah, there is a full support figure from my brothers and family too. So, the boys are still there for me.

15:19

You're pretty good. You're mentally strong. You talk like...

15:25

Sorry

15:26

It's okay, we learn to understand

15:29

I got the feeling because I'm here

15:31

It's okay, I'll help you slowly So you can be more confident to move forward Because I can feel that the beating was really hard From that video, you have given it to the police as evidence, how long?

15:50

Actually, their process of doing it took 2 hours. Okay, let's try to break it down first. So the video you showed earlier was a proofation, the calculation is like that yes this video happened before or after the deep talk about the polygamy

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yes

16:12

before or after?

16:14

before, so

16:15

before, so this video happened before the deep talk

16:17

yes, correct

16:18

it means that there has been an explanation, it means that

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there is a hand washing instrument, it means ok, let's break it down first after that, there was a dip talk, then this dip talk offered, do you want to polygamy? That means he discussed the name of the woman, right? That's right, there he told that he was close to that brother, he told everything about his closeness, what kind of closeness? About his past. About how my husband was.

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16:50

Maybe they were cheating on each other. Well, that's cheating. At first, it was like that. Micro-cheating. I thought it was micro-cheating.

17:00

But after the sea fight, what he said was more like a joke.

17:04

Yes, sad

17:05

is it in the video?

17:07

yes

17:08

is it told?

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no, he doesn't know at all, I know so actually actually I just knew it actually

17:20

what is the timeline?

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what month did you get this video? just this week this video? just this week

17:26

this video just this week?

17:28

what about the deep talk? the deep talk was around October 20th

17:36

a month ago

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the process was 3 weeks

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you got this video this week? yes the deep talk was in October? at the peak of 3 weeks you just got this video this week November the deep talk was in October a month ago you just got that video but when did that video happen?

17:54

in November or October? honestly, August here? so it was earlier in October when the Deep Talk was made, you didn't know about this video, because you didn't know about it until November, right?

18:12

This Deep Talk in October, was it announced yet in August? No.

18:19

So, it was only announced to the public.

18:22

Yes, and it was said that it was for the good, to make it according and they said it was their good intention to make it according to Sharia according to Sharia so they want to make a halal relationship yes so I didn't expect it

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18:36

they have been doing it for months

18:38

ok

18:40

it's clear you don't want to

18:44

did you discuss it with your parents about the offer? Yes, I am not a typical person who likes to share about the marriage. Because I have a principle, if we are married, whatever happens in our marriage, we just need to solve it. Don't let others know.

19:02

So, if it's a house, we're like clothes. So, don't let our clothes be exposed to others. So, we cover each other. Well, actually, it's not just once. So, in 2023, it happened too. But I...

19:18

Well, it's actually clear. It turns out that the pattern is good again in 2025.

19:24

2023, the element is polygamy too

19:28

yes, but I don't think it's that far I don't know, maybe I just have to do it because I think I have to do it too and I actually checked that brother too

19:39

who is this brother?

19:40

that girl brother, this is the new one in 2025

19:44

the IR yes, so I asked, how is it? The girl, the one from 2025, the new one. The one from ER?

19:45

Yes. So I asked her, how is it? I mean, how far is the relationship? And she answered me nicely. If you really want me to explain in detail, I can go to Medan.

20:01

According to that sister?

20:03

Yes. So, because I said, I'm sorry, I heard the news, they said your relationship has reached a point where you're talking about love. I'm sorry if it's wrong, because to be honest, my husband has three phones. I was still very confused, I didn't think, I didn't overthink. I mean, I thought they were just good, they were my work partners. After the Gip Talk, you contacted WA?

20:33

So, BTW was the first time I chatted with them. Okay, maybe I'm being honest, I chatted with that guy. Because I saw their photo when they were di Jakarta ada fotonya mereka jadi aku penasaran dong kakak maaf aku mau nanya hubungan kakak sama suami aku tuh sejauh apa ya berarti sebelum di top ya itu sebelum di top di kita susu dulu di temen yang dia orangnya bingung nih ya jadi kan Agustus video tadi Oktober dip top ya November you receive that video, okay, you contacted him in August,

21:08

starting from August, because I saw their video, their meeting, not this video, so in August you didn't know about the relationship until the video, you just knew they were close video until finally, when my husband has approved for the polygamy in October the next day, I was immediately texted by that brother I was immediately texted by that brother oh, that brother texted you first he said, hello, mawa, salam kenal

21:57

yes, brother, assalamualaikum, I'll do that first yes, walaikum salam, he said I'm sorry, yesterday I didn't reply your DM yesterday because I didn't want to disturb your internal. But Instan talked to me about your marriage. It seems like you've been divorced.

22:18

It seems like you and your husband have separated. It seems like you've already asked for a divorce.

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22:28

Okay.

22:29

So I was like drained.

22:31

Confused.

22:32

Because we live in a cafe, right? So, I've never been fired. Not even once. Never. I've never heard the word fired.

22:44

Okay, where did he get that information?

22:46

Yes. And then, there's the word, pisah rumah, too. I'm always here, I'm always here, in my house, in the cafe,

22:58

our house. We built it from scratch, together.

23:02

So, there's no pisah rumah, no talak, right?

23:04

No, not at all that's why the question is why can he give that statement? did you ask him on IWEA? that's from DMBTW from Instagram

23:16

so, no, we're fine because honestly there's nothing I mean, there's no conflict between me and her husband I mean, I'm with her husband. I mean, I'm with her husband. You're with her husband. You're just giving it away.

23:28

No, no, no.

23:30

And what did she say?

23:32

She said,

23:34

yes, Insan has found my brother and my teachers. Okay. She said she wanted to continue his good intentions to the marriage. That's what he said. So I was immediately surprised. Well, before that, before my husband flew to the field, he came to the research first,

23:58

his friend. Well, there were Ustaz-Ustaz, teachers. Yeah, that's how it happened. I was a student of the university, and there was a teacher there. So, I heard that my husband and his friends were introduced to each other. Even though my husband was still his wife. But he had introduced me to some of his friends and teachers. So, I gave them proof of their photos.

24:34

There were his teachers and my husband. So, I was really crying when I saw that. Before that, I had invited when I saw that. Before that, I was crying before I picked him up. Because I picked him up at the airport. The one you were looking for. Yes, even though I was like...

24:52

When I saw that, I asked, where did you come from? I was a little confused. I said, don't pick him up. But I thought again, just pick him up.

25:03

Well, just be strong because when I saw the photo, I felt so strong I felt like, it's not over and with his attitude towards me when I picked him up from the airport and we went to my parents' house

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25:19

it was more over

25:20

yes, it was really over I mean, usually he's not like this maybe he already felt it he wanted like this maybe he already feels it

25:26

he wants it

25:28

or maybe he already feels it yeah

25:32

you guys are husband and wife, you must know each other maybe he already feels it maybe but I don't know

25:40

so the chat, after you replied what's next? that's it So, what happened after you replied to the chat?

25:46

Well, it was a bit of a shock. I thought it was over. You didn't want to continue? Yes, because I blocked him right away. I needed to calm down.

25:56

Why did you block him?

25:58

We were just talking. At the end, he said that he didn't have any relationship with me anymore. After I said, the one I love, I'm sorry, someone called me, if you and your husband already have a love call, he answered directly,

26:15

if you want, I can come to Medan, so I immediately thought, yes, the point is, if you really want clarification, you go to Medan. But actually my husband thought like this, if he goes to Medan for clarification, what for?

26:35

Your husband?

26:36

Yes, I mean if he goes to Medan for clarification only, what for?

26:40

So you deliver the content of the DM to your husband?

26:44

Actually, from my husband's side, he also shared the DM to my husband. So my husband said, I don't care. Let's just talk to each other. I mean, my husband said, let's just talk to each other. Because maybe what was sent from my husband to my husband the So there is a source of lies here too. So your husband found out about it, then he finally suggested that you meet up with him, right?

27:28

Yes. And it's okay? Well, that's what I hope. But, from the other side, I will meet you after Insan continues this relationship with him talking to his brother first

27:48

so he hopes that because because this person after he said the relationship is over so this brother maybe welcome because this person asked

28:01

please give hope again give another chance give a chance to clarify the situation. Because the statements are different. It's not good if there's a chat. So I just talked to him directly. I was afraid there would be miscommunication.

28:20

So when Insan went to Jakarta, I immediately told him that he would definitely meet his brother. But when I chatted, my husband said, no, we didn't meet and we just lost contact. So, there was a element of deception, but when I asked my brother, his answer was, yes, we met, but only to discuss his professional business, there was no more. So what is the direction?

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28:57

So the conversation there was already not like that.

29:00

Denial, actually, right? Denial too, right? Actually, what do they mean? What is the purpose of this? Why is it so different? Then I saw a photo of the story of the brother

29:11

there is a shoe, my husband's sandals So I sign it, I see it, this is my husband's sandals

29:20

Where is the position?

29:22

So I screenshot, I shared it to my husband This is Umah's husband's sandals Umah got it from his friend From his brother's story What is that, dear? Umah is marked

29:36

with Umah's husband's sandals

29:38

Then

29:40

His friends also have a lot of those sandals Don't take it away, dear. They've already eaten.

29:46

Okay.

29:46

That's what they asked. Even though, it's obvious. A wife's feelings are strong.

29:52

Where is the position of the sandals?

29:54

So they're like...

29:55

I mean, at home or where?

29:57

I don't know. Because the photo is just like this. In the middle, there is a reserved sandal. The caption is reserved. I'm just kidding. In the middle, there's a sign that says RESERVE. What is that for? I don't know. How do you play with women?

30:11

Oh my gosh.

30:13

Okay, I still have to focus. Because I'm a stranger. But I still have to... How about your version? Maybe, who knows, from his version. Because I've seen there's a clarification from his manager.

30:27

Oh yeah. What is it, rejecting, if I'm not mistaken, that there is that contradiction, right?

30:33

Well, if it's arranged from your story, I'm also puzzled, you arrange it a bit confused, right? Yes, because I'm also confused with their scenario, I'm also expect that he would allow them to come to his house. But I found out that they had been doing it for days.

30:54

Because of the timeline, that's why it's a warning. So, in the end, did you talk about this with your husband? Before you decided to make a report and also finally decide to speak out in the media.

31:12

So before that, I know the video was on Tuesday, so I know the CCTV proof, I know the proof of the CCTV info That one? Yes, I know it on Tuesday This week

31:27

This week? Sorry, November?

31:29

Yes, November

31:30

Yes, the incident was in August, right?

31:31

Yes, that's right Now let's arrange it Yes, take it This, I know the info is Tuesday

31:37

November

31:39

Tuesday, November So, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday I flagged it on Friday Okay Sorry, Saturday morning at half past three Nah, jadi, setelah saya Rabu, Kamis, Jumat, aku flag-nya itu di hari Jumat.

31:46

Okay.

31:46

Sorry, Sabtu pagi, jam setengah tiga.

31:49

Okay.

31:50

Nah, di hari Sabtu itu, jam satu malam, aku langsung dapat chat-nya dia. Dia bilang, sayang, maafin abang ya, belum bisa jadi sosok suami yang baik. Abang bersaksi, abang bersumpah kalau ayah itu istri soleh hanya abang. Maafin abang, abang mau mengakhiri hidup abang sampai disini. Abang mau mengakhiri hidup abang sampai disini. Tolong jaga Afnan, okay? He said.

32:26

Then, do you want to see the chat? After he knew the video. So before on Friday, my brother told my husband about the video. The video you have, right? Augustus CCTV.

32:40

The two hours, right?

32:41

Yes, that's right. So maybe he was a little surprised, right? Wow, how did you in here? Yeah, but oh, I don't know I'm in there. Yeah, I mean He cut a deal to my in Santa. Yeah, I thought I was a to be young man. Santa I think I'll be saying I'm in Santa Dima. I'll walk on a walk on pasty Mahamli had a lot of the deputy do or most a chantic a pop when can I remember mine passive account terungkap Pasti mouse a rappy a pop on client to top in it up a see back on terungkap Jadi, no, that's a still a mine chantic car and he's a little bit awesome. I call you. Oh, no, I am not mouth

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Easy mean a bunk on took me kha sama dia. Yeah, what a charity also a bung juga, not a colon I won't be transparent to Ayang. So, if I want to marry Siri, or I want to play pretty out there, I want to date girls, I won't tell Ayang. Because my context is pretty.

33:41

I can't do that. I mean, I don't want to do that. I'm still a wife, you're still my husband. I don't know how he is doing outside. I'm at home, I'm doing my duty.

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33:54

I don't want to do that. I mean, don't let it get to the point of illness. So I don't want him to be as closed as he is. That's his statement. I don't want to accept polygamy. But honestly, you yourself, from the bottom of your heart,

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I'm sorry, I'm not defying religion or belief, I'm just being honest, you yourself, from before marriage, after marriage,

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until now, do you want to be polygamous? No.

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You don't want to, right? Yes.

34:28

So you don't have a desire to be polygamous.

34:31

Yes, I don't.

34:32

And you don't find any element that convinces you to allow him to be polygamous.

34:37

Yes, there is no strong reason for me to accept it.

34:40

There is no such thing. That's the point.

34:42

But he still wants to have polygamy Yes, I agree But he doesn't tell how far his relationship with IL is Even I saw it like this I mean, if it's already transparent, I want to know How is your chatting?

35:00

How far is it? The problem is, from year to year, I never saw his cellphone. Sometimes, he brought his cellphone to the bedroom.

35:12

Not just 3 cellphones?

35:13

Yes, 3 cellphones. But when he came home, he always brought one. So, maybe 2 cellphones were in the office, in the cafe, in the storage. I don't know.

35:20

Were you curious when you first found out about your husband's cellphone?

35:24

Were you curious when you first heard about the husband's third wife? I was very curious, but I couldn't... I couldn't really express my feelings to my husband. Because, whatever he did, it was just a manut. Even if I argued about my lack of trust, my lack of acceptance, I was immediately blamedrustful. I was so unacceptable. I was wronged. On what basis?

35:48

I was just a good wife.

35:50

What do you mean by good wife?

35:52

I was just a good wife. I told my husband not to reject me. I even asked for his permission. If you look at his Instagram, he's a really bad guy. Because there's no identity of me and my son.

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36:04

I even said, please, don't let there be slander too. Well, you use a CD like this, if you don't want to be shown, just cover it, it's also sticky, even the affluent can be sticked.

36:17

So don't let people see Ayang really like there is no family. Oh, on Instagram there was never you guys? people see Ayang as if she doesn't have a family

36:26

oh, she doesn't have you guys on her Instagram?

36:28

no, not at all we don't even follow her we don't follow her because I blocked her for the first time so this has been going on for years for almost 5 years, I've never been recognized on her social media if someone notices, it's a woman

36:44

no one wants admit it. Even if it's just one, it's okay.

36:53

But, you know her wife.

36:56

Well, at first, she didn't know.

36:59

How did you know at first?

37:01

Because she saw the branding of husband's branding on social media.

37:06

Oh, he explained it via chat?

37:08

No, he gave me a message. At first, I didn't know that Insan already had a wife. But as we got closer, he became more transparent. He said he already had a wife and a child so, because their relationship is already that far that's why, that's what the second wife said

37:35

the video was at August, right?

37:39

yes

37:39

did he know yet?

37:41

sorry

37:43

if your husband already had a wife?

37:47

Well, that's what he said. I don't know if it's clear. Because that was Augustus, when they first met. But that's just the logic. I mean, my husband should have told me. If he admitted it, he was already married and he didn't give room for other people to enter his heart,

38:12

he would have just said it if he didn't have the characteristics to do so. He should have insisted that he already had a wife and a child. That's what I mean. The woman would have a wife, I already have a child. Well, that's what I mean. Surely, that woman immediately, well, please step back, right? No one wants to take a step forward again. Well, that's what I mean, she's afraid, right?

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Yes, even after this context has happened, this polygamy, she has already expressed her intention, that's what she already knows, right? If my husband is not single, like he said in the podcast. When did he know that? That's the question. Yes, so I don't know what their discussion is.

38:54

Let's pull it after your husband knows all this. The point is, until the video, he finally knows that you already know and already have it, yes, there is no more conversation where

39:07

all the initial events are finished, all kinds of husbands, there is no position, he is also in Jakarta and we really the communication is really minimal, I and my husband, so after he know the sentence is just like people want to kill themselves, so after he knows the video, yes, from my brother I'm not you to mock a or a mobile. It'll be a Disaster, I had a tough video it to ya Dari a bang aku Tossed a gem Satu Malam to a song a chat it up a season a coming for a to jam set on a tiga Daddy, they're long song sorry. Yeah, I'm a giant

39:36

Kamarin, yes, I thought I could tell you young video America video story to know it'll be a long song. I said aku young tiny to young sayang Yeah they are the video store, well, he immediately contacted me, the one who was in love, sorry, well, these are the words, this is after he knew the video was already spread widely,

39:56

yes, like a wrong confession, yes, yes, okay, okay, just get there, then you try to I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

40:08

I'm sorry.

40:10

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I mean, I always remind my husband to show his mother and Afnan so that there is no problem. I mean, I always remind my husband to show his mother and Afnan so that there is no problem. I mean, I always remind my husband to show his mother and Afnan so that there is no problem. I mean, I always remind my husband to show his mother and Afnan so that there is no problem. I mean, I always remind my husband to show his mother to Avnan so that there is no slander out there.

40:51

And people know that he already has a family. Don't look like a slacker. Because his marriage is like a slacker. There is no slacking at all. It looks a bit like a slacker if he has a wife and children. So, but he's still stubborn.

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In fact, for years, I asked for my rights to be fulfilled. That's all. But he still doesn't accept it. Because there's a case too. Yes, because maybe

41:20

there is one of the internal cases also protecting from someone who might be more dangerous he thinks it's dangerous for my life and my child there is a mafia like that so he also aims for the other love

41:36

yes, the purpose, the reason is actually more accurate more accurate to protect us protect us so he doesn't want to show up on social media, didn't want to show his wife and son, because he was afraid of endangering them. Well, so, it was years,

41:55

until in the end, I thought, Oh my God, it seems like soon, suddenly, I will be admitted, because I really want to wait for that moment, until it really comes. Well, for that moment to really come. When that moment has come, I should be happy, happy, admitted.

42:14

Eh, instead, other people came to our lives. So he updated it after he asked for permission. And that was immediately deleted, the story, Bang, you don't mean to, right? So that story was made gray, well, there, his friends were surprised, he said, well, it turns out you're married, well, it turns out you already have a child, so all this time, maybe he has been covering up for that. You met your husband in 2019, right? Yes, we were in the same school.

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Have you been dating for a long time? No, we didn't date. I met him when I finished high school.

42:54

High school?

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The process was brief. Brief? Yes, so it was really brief. I was actually going to enter Pol 1.

43:03

Yes, I heard you were going to be in the police force.

43:05

Yes, so I was in charge of the police, because I also have a family, all my brothers are also police officers. So, God willing, I can be encouraged, I can be taught how to do it.

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43:17

But why didn't you become a police officer because of marriage?

43:19

Yes, he came into my life, he said, if a woman is a woman's interest is at home. A wife's interest is at home. Let me be responsible.

43:29

Full.

43:30

So I'm not allowed to work. And he doesn't like the woman outside. He doesn't like the woman working outside. Because the woman's job is at home, serving her husband. When her husband comes home, she's served,

43:42

her clothes, her food is prepared, it's clear, she's husband, he came home, served me, the clothes, the food was prepared, and I was done. I received my salary.

43:46

You've been hijab since you were a kid?

43:48

Yes.

43:48

Since school?

43:50

Yes, that's right.

43:50

You were a cadar?

43:51

I was a cadar after I finished high school.

43:54

Why were you a cadar at that time? I'm sorry.

43:56

That's because I was a the middle of the Hijrah phase. So, I was in the Hijrah phase. Why did you decide to do the Hijrah at such a young age?

44:07

What was the reason?

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Alhamdulillah, it was my circle. The environment supported me. There was a community involvement. And I was invited to be a source. Even after we got married, we were actually viral at the time.

44:21

We were viral at the time because we were young. Oh, it was viral? Yes, so we were like an inspirational figure. A young couple. So we were often invited to talk shows.

44:34

Oh, at the age of 20, you got married. A young couple.

44:39

Yes, 18 and 19.

44:40

Yes, so many...

44:41

Oh, it was viral?

44:42

Many people invited us. be their inspirations. That's why I thought, it's normal for people to think that we're divorced. Because we used to be active on social media. We used to do a lot of content, there's a Kapsong content,

45:01

then there's a Salawatan content, we also did umrah together. After we got married, we started from zero. We really didn't have anything, not even a little business. We really started from zero. We started Kurma business, Safron business.

45:17

So we fight together. We make content. With, Alhamdulillah, people also, people also know us a little bit. We take advantage of that, take advantage of that digital. I want to ask, you in August, when you saw their photos, you contacted IR, right?

45:41

Yes.

45:42

First time, right?

45:43

Yes. Actually, sorry. But not answered. Yes, actually, sorry, yes, actually, right, but I contacted him when they had a meeting and there was one of the travels in August, right? Yes, okay, but it was not answered, August, right? After that, it was only answered in November, October, October, after the permission, was sent to the police.

46:08

Correct.

46:09

So, I don't know. Do you think he knows that your husband has a wife? It's hard to guess, actually. It's hard, because there's no proof. Yes, it's true. My husband didn't admit that his wife was in his life. Or?

46:33

Or maybe he already knew. But he just wanted to get in. Because the last words he said to me were, I will make sure that we are a couple but not in the condition of a husband Wow, I was like, oh my God

46:52

Oh, did he say that?

46:54

Yes, he had an answer like that Then I was told

46:58

Please, Tiff

46:59

just go on your way so you don't make your family feel bad So I apologized to that brother I'm sorry for not being able to do anything for my family. I did apologize to him. I felt that he was too much. Maybe they were professionals. I was emotional too.

47:17

I said, I'm sure you want to be with my husband, right? Even though you were given the opportunity. He was still welcome. So I felt, maybe because I was so naive, I felt like I was at the end of the line. So I apologized.

47:43

What month was that?

47:44

October. October, yes, that's right. I already knew it was wrong. I apologized. When was that? I didn't ask for money. What month was that?

47:45

October. October, yes. Yes, October. The last of October.

47:53

And then, there was a posting, there was a photo of Wastaville with Bercak in your posting, right?

48:00

Yes, that was after I knew it was happening.

48:03

That was in the month?

48:04

It was just when we arrived in Jakarta. November? Yes, November.

48:10

This November, right?

48:11

Yes, after I made a report. What happened to you? I had a little fever.

48:17

This is the stress, right?

48:18

Yes. Mostly because I've been in a coma for a long time. For women, like me, it's type who has a lot of comas. I don't know, maybe it's the time bomb. You have too many comas, and your stories are also too short.

48:34

That's why I tried to help you organize so that the flow is clear. Because I didn't expect it. It turned out to be like this, what I felt. Like, oh my God, it's really hard. I didn't expect it to be this bad. It was really hard.

48:48

But I tried to be strong. I had to be strong to do this for my son. That's why when Afnan and I were allowed to leave to make a report to Jakarta, I was really sad. Because I never left him for a day.

49:07

I never left my son at home. Because I only left him for the college exam. So, for the exam, it's only a few hours. Like three hours. But this, I was here for two or three days. So, is the case, it will be two days, three days, I'm here, bro. So, it's like God feels like it's really heavy, but it has to be able to see the mother figure,

49:33

the mother figure who is struggling. Actually, no one wants the ending of the marriage to be like this, especially there is betrayal from the husband figure, who all this time I prayed, I always prayed in every prayer I was betrayed by my husband, whom I have been praying for. I prayed for him every time I prayed. I even said to Allah, if there is something that I am suspicious about,

49:57

please show me, O Allah. But if there is not, please calm my heart, O Allah. The more I gave up, gave up, gave up, gave up, after going through a few things, it seems like the door of life,

50:12

Alhamdulillah, suddenly there is a guide, I don't know which prayer Allah accepts, but Allah is with the pure people, with good people, especially me who is actually under the influence.

50:28

I'm still confused about how you got the video. You haven't been answered yet.

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Yes.

50:36

Or you don't want to tell the process of how it happened?

50:39

I don't want to tell the details.

50:42

Just the point.

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But it's God's will. When I gave up, God gave me a very deep guidance which made this question finally answered. After years of thinking, why didn't I update, update, update? Why didn't I post?

51:01

Why didn't I admit it? Until I said, just close it, close your face, just cover it, just put a sticker on it well, the climax was when I really gave up on Allah Ya Allah, please arrange it, ya Allah, suddenly, the video was released I was shocked

51:21

shocked when you opened all that you told, right? I was shocked You were shocked when you opened all the stories you told? I was so shocked Now, up to this point, has the IRS contacted you to solve this problem or apologize?

51:36

I don't know, yesterday they said they contacted me using his brother's account I don't know Because, honestly, there are a lot of people who DM me So I can't see them one by one. So you haven't seen them yet? But the issue was yesterday, he DMed me, I don't know the content of the DM, but at first glance he said there was no relationship, just pure business, professional business. He wrote like that? Yes. on I mean, he's personal, he can just do it. Yeah, yeah, that's what I thought. Why not just do it personally?

52:26

I would have checked it right away. His name is obvious, I would have opened it right away. And his goal, he doesn't know what it is. I mean, that's not there yet, right? Not yet. Well, if he wants to meet you to finish,

52:38

do you still want to do it or not? Because you said you're not sure. If he wants to meet you to settle this, do you still want to do it or not?

52:49

Because you've made a report.

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Yes, I'm sorry. Because the evidence is very clear. There have been many betrayals too. In the relationship between the house and the house, which I'm struggling with, and I didn't expect it.

53:04

Even the ending was so sad. I'm fighting for this and I didn't expect it to end that way. I mean, it's really, really broken. I didn't expect them to be that far. It's really sad, really sad. I'm sorry if I've discussed it, watching their video is like a trauma.

53:28

So who are you reporting? Your husband or both? Both. So both are subject to punishment?

53:37

That's the decision of the investigator.

53:40

So both are reported?

53:42

Yes.

53:46

Yes, maybe. According to the law of 284 KUHP.

53:52

So, both of them, your husband and the IRS?

53:56

Yes, I reported them. Okay. If we assume that the husband or the IRS asked for restorative justice, for reconciliation.

54:08

Have you thought about it?

54:09

Yes.

54:10

Okay. But...

54:12

What about you?

54:13

I'm sorry.

54:14

Well, I just handed bad evidence to the investigators. And I also want to, I mean, I don't want to rush it, how fair, how good it is from the investigators. The point is, I don't want to go back to my husband. I'm sorry, I told my husband, because he kept chatting, where are you, honey?

54:54

I said, God, you're still so nice.

54:58

You mean you want to break up?

55:00

Honestly, because I was really, really disappointed. I was also heartbroken to say, yes.

55:13

Are you 100% sure you don't want to separate?

55:16

Honestly, I'm sure.

55:19

Are you sure? Have you prayed to Allah? Yes. Are you more sincere? Sincere. Okay. It means there is a possibility if the police say they are wrong, yes, there is a possibility, yes, they will go through the trial process and become suspects, right? It means there is a possibility of a

55:37

felony in court. Yes. There is a possibility that you will go to jail. Is that true? You are sincere that your husband is in jail.

55:51

Actually, he did it consciously. It means he doesn't think about us anymore. He did it consciously thinking about his child. He did it without thinking about his child. He did it just because of his lust, without thinking about his child's future. He was already confident. So maybe I just went to the legal path. So I'm not too angry,

56:31

emotional, no. I immediately reported it. Well, I'll leave the rest to Allah and from the investigators, hopefully it can be more, according to the process, it goes well too. But of course, when you report, there is hope. For change? I don't know, what is your hope? Your hope is that this can make him change,

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or in prison, if he changes, it's better. What is your hope? Well, the hope is that there is a divorce effect for them.

57:00

Okay, the divorce effect. Yes. What do you hope for this divorce effect?

57:04

He came to apologize? If he's a gentleman, he should admit his mistake.

57:09

Okay.

57:09

Because actually, like yesterday, when he got the polygamy license, his family didn't agree at all.

57:17

His family?

57:18

Yes, his family. Until a week later, his family came to my house. They came to my house after I talked to my parents. So I talked to my parents about his intention. His intention was shocked when my parents immediately went to the hospital. I had never shared anything about our marriage because I always said,

57:45

yes, he works, he built this for travel, just pray for him. I always made my family's perspective think, yes, he's fine there. Now, on Friday, I want to pray, yes, calmly, the position is calm, and there is no crying,

58:04

that's reasonable, my parents must be like a heart broken, like a calm position, and there was no crying. That's normal, my parents were like in a trance. So I said, let's go to my mom's house first. I went home to my mom's house. And that's it. She was in Jakarta. So I was at my parents' house for a day,

58:24

and the next day her family came. I was hoping, I was hoping that she would come too, to join her aunt and her grandmother. So she came, but she didn't. I immediately felt, oh my God, my family is not being respected.

58:42

So I felt like my self-esteem is really low. But this is a fix, what we mean, because from the legal point of view, if he is not proven to be cheating according to the charges you filed, he can demand you to be charged with the name of Baik. No no problem, because I have very strong evidence you think this is the strongest evidence with this recording? yes, that's right

59:12

for 2 hours?

59:14

yes

59:14

what do you want to tell your husband now? Bismillah ya. Terima kasih. Terima kasih karena kita udah sejauh ini. Kita udah 7 tahun bersama, udah hampir 7 tahun bersama. Tapi ternyata ini balasannya. Aku juga gak nyangka bakalan ada di posisi yang sebegini nyakitnya, nyakitin banget. Aku juga gak expect. Aku juga gak expect. Aku juga gak expect. Aku juga gak expect. I never thought I would be in such a painful situation.

59:48

I didn't expect that my marriage would end like this. Because I married to find God's will. I also want us to live together until death. I want us to go to heaven together. We live in this world to find God's will. So why is this marriage humiliated?

1:00:19

Why is it that I'm wrong? If I'm wrong, please, the answer wasn't like this. It was so painful. I wasn't strong enough. It was so hard.

1:00:34

I tried to be strong in front of people, I tried to be cheerful in front of people. But in my heart, there were so many wounds that I had to cover up. I hoped that he would go out to work, to earn money. But when I saw the evidence, I immediately felt like I like you ignore the holy promise.

1:01:26

And I was so happy to do that. I was so happy to do that.

1:01:30

I was so happy to do that. I didn't feel anything. I didn't feel anything. I didn't feel anything. I didn't feel anything. I didn't feel anything. I hope that God will do it for us. God is so cruel.

1:01:53

Do you have anything to say to yourself?

1:01:57

I hope so. I want to ask myself, why is it that we don't know what God's will is, I want to ask, why? We don't know what God's will is, but why does it have to be my husband? Why does it have to be my husband that you took? I mean, you've been hurt before.

1:02:18

You should be able to mend yourself. You already know. You already know that he has a wife, but you still approach him. Why don't you back off? Why do you keep going forward until you say, I'm sure it's not in the husband's heart.

1:02:39

If you were nice, it would be okay. Poor thing. Because he was also in that position, he was hurt, he should be able to improve himself without having to hurt other people, other women.

1:02:55

Before this incident, you already knew a lot about the story, you followed it?

1:03:02

I often see it on social media, because it's a public figure too.

1:03:07

But you at least know the story.

1:03:10

I know.

1:03:11

Then from the story, you become confused, right? I'm really confused. Because I'm really a plot twist.

1:03:21

Well, let's see in the future we will pray for the best if it is clarifying we will open the door because the two angles of view so it becomes clearer

1:03:36

only for you I pray for the best this is a long and difficult path with what else you have seen in the evidence I was surprised This is a long and difficult path. Thank you, sir. Especially, what you have seen with the evidence,

1:03:47

I was surprised too. I hope you can get through this with strength.

1:03:51

Amen, sir.

1:03:52

I hope you can finish this with your husband too.

1:03:56

Yes.

1:03:59

he is part of your child too.

1:04:01

Yes, that's right. Yes, that's right.

1:04:03

Thank you for sharing. Makasih Bang.

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